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QUESTION: President-elect Donald Trump recently announced he wants to rename the Gulf of Mexico the “Gulf of America.” He also recently announced plans to possibly purchase Greenland, and wants to retake control of the Panama Canal. What’s your opinion on these plans, and do you think it would be a good move for the United States to complete all 3?
Talk about it….
Gulf of Mexico, if we can’t “buy” Greenland then no military takeover, Carter should never have given the Panama Canal away – I said that was stupid then, then we buy it back
Sounds insane and the US is broke anyway can’t even afford a caddyshack.
Buy Greenland and then exploit it for oil and gas. It will pay for itself. They said buying Alaska was dumb and unaffordable also, but it has paid for itself several times over. It will also give us more of a claim on the arctic shipping lanes and help keep Russia or more importantly China from taking it.
YES on both (if possible (??) … if it doesn’t cause any serious conflicts.
Here we go, four years of this…. again.
and he’s not even in office yet.
Seems that’s what the American voter wanted…
Easy Skippy, let’s not turn this into a “he said drink bleach” story.
None will happen. Greenland is not for sale. Panama is unlikely to give back the control of the canal. Mexico will object renaming the gulf. If Trump push it, the international community will be against the us. Plus it could give Mexico a pretext to go to war and claim back the land that were lost in the American-Mexican war. Who knows 🤷♂️
Paul,
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A large portion of the “international community” already stands against the United States, whether doing so covertly or overtly.
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Do you really believe Mexico would declare war on the United States in an attempt to reclaim territory it lost almost 200 years ago?
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Using your logic that would allow Germany, Austria, and Hungary the “pretext” to declare war and reclaim the pre-World War I borders of the German Empire and the Austro-Hungarian Empire. Take a look at a map of pre-World War I Europe to see how much territory the German Empire and the Austro-Hungarian Empire controlled, and how many countries in Europe today would cease to exist.
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Using your logic further, that would allow England, France, Russia, and Spain the “pretext” to declare war on the United States to reclaim land ceded by England as a result of the American Revolution and the England backed Indian Wars that followed, France as a result of the Louisiana Purchase, Russia as a result of the “Seward’s Folly” purchase of Alaska from Russia, and the Adams-Onis purchase of Florida from Spain.
Think democrats and their media is upset now, . . . . . .
there’s gonna be much more than mean tweets.
Wait for it . . . . . .
https://patriotpost.us/memes/113316-flick-to-begin-2025-01-07
If Denmark decides to sell, and if the people of Greenland are fine with it, then why not?
It won’t be the first time we bought land from another country, we bought the Virgin Islands
from Denmark. We also bought the Louisiana Territory from France, Alaska from Russia,
and Florida from Spain. Puerto Rico, Oregon, Texas, Samoa, and several other territories
and islands were acquired by the US.
If Panama is willing to negotiate a better deal, and lower their rates for US ships, then it will
not be necessary to reclaim the canal.
I’m fine with leaving the Gulf of Mexico alone, changing the name seems a bit ridiculous.
If there was to be a name change, it would only be the half that the US has jurisdiction over. The gulf is shared with the US and Mexico, and is patrolled by the Mexican Navy and the
US Coast Guard. Maybe Mexico will want to change the name of the Gulf of California to the Gulf of Mexico.
Greenland is not for sale. Yes, I know that the US bought the Virgin Island’s from Denmark. I doubt the Greenlanders wants to be part of the US, they have been tied to Denmark for a long time, and even though at times the relationship has been problematic, they are closer to Scandinavian culture than American culture.
Hanne Jeppesen,
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Former President and President-elect Donald Trump and King Frederik X of Denmark are 15th cousins.
Too bad we can’t take a Mulligan on Oregon……….
The USA needs to take over whatever they can, however they can and when they can.
Works925,
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For the United States to acquire or “takeover” land and water territory by “whatever, however, and whenever” means necessary, would require perpetual war. The people of the United States don’t support perpetual war!
Greenland is not for sale, the Danes don’t want to sell it, and Greenlanders do not want to be owned by the US. When Trump floated the idea of buying Greenland, the Danish government response was tongue in cheek. Saying that to make Greenland more secure they had added 2 extra dog sled patrols.
However, I just went on a Danish news site and Trump comments about using the military to take Greenland is taken much more seriously. Denmark hopes they can still have a positive trading relationship with Denmark.
I know Trump often says outrageous things and don’t follow up, so I don’t take his comments that seriously so far. Still his comments to me as a Dane is offensive. Hitler used some lame excuse to invade and occupy Denmark in 1940. I’m not comparing the two, but I still find Trump’s comments disconcerting.
“. Hitler used some lame excuse to invade and occupy Denmark in 1940. I’m not comparing the two…”
Yeah, but you just did.
When you grew up with parents and family that lived through the 5 year occupation of their country, you tend to be a little sensitive. I’m comparing the language they used.
Hanne, you can twist it any way you want to, but you compared Trump to Hitler.
Plain & simple.
You compared America’s twice elected president to one of the 20th Century’s worst mass murderers…. it is what it is.
Kamala Harris said many times “A New Way Forward” does that mean she should be compared to Mao Zedong and his ‘Great Leap Forward’ ?
China’s so-called ‘Great Helmsman’ who killed 60 million people?
I’m just “comparing the language they used”.
Since the United States and Mexico are both part of (North) America, it seems it should at least be renamed the gulf of North America. That also means that everyone living in North, Central and South America are truly Americans. Also, if the naming had been done based on the Italian’s last name, we would all be Vespuccians. Note that residents of Italy, France, Germany, etc. are Europeans.
Regarding Panama, that’s further evidence of the disaster of President Carter; a good human being, but a terrible President. We should get it back and get the Chinese out.
Buying Greenland seems like something worth evaluating.
Why stop at the Gulf of Mexico? He’s probably already thinking about renaming the Atlantic and Pacific Oceans.
All of the above…but that is simply bait and it is funny how Canada bought it “51st state”😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣. They are raving loons. It is funny to throw out jokes and see how far people will run with it…. Don’t you think this is a game to play with the “Fake news” to see what kind of asses they make of themselves? come on folks….boohoo “we will annex Ca, Oregon and Wash.????????” says Canada. what a silly and people are biting.
So you are saying that Trump is a joke. A real president would have more important things to do.
From the postings above it seems the Liberals are really panicking over Trump. I’ve actually run into some liberals that were besides themselves in the tears. And I reminded both of them that all went well in the world and the country when Trump was president the first time. It’s going to be the same coming up but probably better for everyone.( it’s actually amazing that Trump got anything done the first time with the Democrats and their government agencies pulling up all the unfair impeachments and legal challenges) But things have not gone do well with the liberal democrats in office the last four years, for either us Americans or for peace in the world. There were no Wars under Trump.
There’s a lot of optimism now- real Joy! So liberals stop panicking yourself.
My man’s making moves for America. Can’t remember the last president who even tried.
If relinquishing the Panama Canal was on the condition that we be granted unfettered access, then yes we should reclaim what is rightfully ours.
Hahahaha MAGA for life baby! It’s the Gulf of America obviously. Greenland can MAGA if they want to. The Panama canal was built but the United States, for the United States. It should be called the American canal. Simple minds forgetting mexico is part of America, north, south Idk but it’s definitely America. Even Brazil is America. Get a grip leftistas it’s MAGA time
We finally ended a 20+ year war and people are okay with starting new ones? I can’t imagine any country or region actually wanting to become part of the US given how the US treats the territories it already dominates. So it’s extremely unlikely that Canada, Mexico, or Panama, let alone Greenland, will go along with Trump’s fantasies, regardless of how often he chirps this nonsense (it’s probably just click bait anyway, or an attempt to divert attention from his upcoming sentencing as a 34-count felon),
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When was going to war with Canada, Mexico, Panama, and Greenland ever mentioned? Interesting, you can’t imagine aother country wanting to join the United States, but so many of the people from other countries are wanting to come to the United States, both legally and illegally.
Greenland? They are already NATO members (thru Denmark).
Just lease it …… Yep, a 100 year lease & they can preserve the illusion of independence and we can keep the commies out.
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Panama? just cut a new deal. José Raúl Mulino is already shutting down illegal immigration through Panama, he will work with us… make him some offer$.
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Gulf of Mexico? Who cares? We can call it whatever we want & the rest of the world will call it whatever they want. BFD.
We should always look at expanding the borders of the United States. We should’ve kept all of Mexico after the Mexican-American War, and we should’ve kept Cuba, the Philippines, Panama Canal Zone, and other territories once held by the United States.
Not until we can take care of the people within the borders we already have.
Hope Johnson,
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I don’t necessarily disagree with you, which is why I only said “look at” and not that we “definitely should” expand the borders of the United States. The territories I specifically mentioned all came under US control over a century ago, Mexico in 1848, Philippines in 1898, Cuba in 1898, and the Panama Canal Zone in 1903. Any other territories not specifically mentioned likely would’ve come under US control no later than the end of World War II in 1945. I’m not saying to take these territories now, just that we’d more than likely be better off had we maintained control of these territories.
Take care of them how?
Alexander Hamilton championed our success without the need to claim territory and we are better for it
https://hamiltonian.alexanderhamiltonsociety.org/the-journal/the-grand-strategy-of-alexander-hamilton/
Angry American,
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Yet, the US continued to claim territory throughout the years of Alexander Hamilton’s life. So, are you advocating the US cede all territory it’s gained beyond that of the original 13 states?
Yes to both. Get Greenland before China tries/does. Panama Canal, we should’ve never relinquished control.
We are now officially the United States of Bullies.
What a shame Hope, I had some good thoughts about you. I don’t remember you saying this about the COVID HOAX bullies. I don’t remember you saying that about biden cramming trans ideology down our throats. I don’t remember you saying that when every white person was shamed relentlessly for being white.
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I guess you’ve been waiting in the wings to show your true colors. You may have some political experience locally but don’t even try to pretend you understand the complexities of geopolitics and negotiations. Oh that’s right, your political career never went anywhere. Wonder why
MAGA SAM,
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So you decide to turn on someone you admittedly “had some good thoughts about” because they don’t agree with you on an issue? Do you even remember why you “had some good thoughts about” Hope Johnson?
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Hope Johnson was the first voice, often the lone voice, and was able to join others from the Concord community to stand in opposition of Lennar/Five Point being named and continuing as Master Developer of the former CNWS. She was also a leading voice in opposition to the Seeno led Concord First Partners being named and continuing as Master Developer of the former CNWS. She proved herself to not only be correct, but to be years ahead of the Concord City Council and could have saved the City of Concord millions of dollars that the Concord City Council, Concord City Manager, and Concord City Staff squandered on their recommendations and first selecting their crooked and corrupt political cronies Lennar/Five Point and Seeno/Concord First Partners.
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Hope Johnson running for local office doesn’t make it a “political career,” whether she won or lost, but that was just your futile attempt at an insult, right? Given the amount of money she ran her campaigns on compared to her Concord Police Association and Garaventa Family garbage company owners of Concord Disposal/Mount Diablo Resource Recovery funded ESTABLISHMENT candidates, she actually did quite well. Hope was such a threat to the Concord ESTABLISHMENT political powers that they spent money on polling used in an attempt to tarnish her image to the electorate. It’s honestly sad that you’d rather have someone you agree with 100% of the time in local office, or any office for that matter, that you’d actually end up with someone who you don’t agree with at all, all because you wouldn’t or won’t support the person who you had some agreement with. That’s a great way to get absolutely nothing that you want at all!
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Now you want us to believe that you actually “understand the complexities of geopolitics and negotiations.” That’s a good one. Have you read the things you post?
So here’s the thing, I have no problem with Seeno/Lennar or the Garaventas. Someone will eventually get the contract to develop the land. Nobody has presented an actual valid reason other than jealousy that Discovery homes shouldn’t be the general for the project. 75% of people living in the area live in homes built by Seeno.
Yes it was a childish attempt at an insult and you are correct it’s a good way to get nothing however, there is more than her little TDS comment that caused my post.
Of course I understand geopolitics. I don’t need you to believe that.
I would rather have straight liberal idiots in local office instead of a covert radical until the rest of the sleepy democrats figure it out.
Yeah I was partially down with some of Hopes statements in city council and here but acting like Americans weren’t bullied by the government until now is just a pathetic dig at Trump.
The corporation of “Canada” is incorporated in Washington DC. What do you know about that?
Hope Johnson,
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The argument can be made that the United States has acted that way since its founding, due to westward expansion, and has acted that way internationally since at least President William McKinley’s term began in 1897, if not, as far back as the Gadsden Purchase of northern Mexico during the term of President Franklin Pierce in the 1850s, the Mexican-American War during the term of President James K. Polk in the 1840s, the annexation of the Republic of Texas during the term of President John Tyler in the 1840s, or the Texas Revolution during the term of President Andrew Jackson in the 1830s. The United States has a long history of wielding its power to gain territory through Compacts of Free Association, annexation, or force, as well as imposing its will over other nations, which it continues to do today.