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QUESTION: Do you think fining parents could help crack down on bullying?
Talk about it….
I think most parents are clueless. And are afraid of their bullying children.
Fining them would not work, and they would only end up calling the accusers ‘Karens.’
Well what a ridiculous question!
In my case no it wouldn’t, it’d only piss me off and whoever got bullied would only get it worse.
When I was in school if I got bullied I defended myself, and I defended quite well.
I know kung foo
Hard to take you seriously. Just too much great comedic value.
where do you think kids learn it?
Right. That or they don’t have a father.
+1
If it could make them realize their little darlings are indeed bullies, yes.
Based on my childhood, which was a long time ago, the parents are bullies themselves.
If the parents won’t or can’t deal with their children being bullies then they must face one of the current facts of life. Kids that get bullied might get guns and deal with the effects on their own.
Yes, give the parents notice that their child is acting out as a bully (boy or girl) and ask them to deal with it. If they get a 2nd notice it should include the idea that they will have to pay a fine starting at $X and up from there until they deal with their child.
Who gets to define bullying? Is using the wrong pronoun a form of it? Unwelcome staring, making someone feel uncomfortable?
How is “bully” defined, and who makes the decision that a kid has been bullied? Will the case end up in court? The courts are already backlogged, and If it does, the taxpayer will be footing the bill. What seems to be bullying to one person, may be teasing to others, and sometimes, it can be playful bantering. Not all misbehaved kids are the fault of the parents. Oftentimes, parents can do a phenomenal job raising their children, and they’ll all grow up and become upstanding citizens, while one kid can turn out to be rotten to the core. No, I don’t think parents should be fined.
Fined by who? Who will enforce it? You assume they can pay it.
My wife has been a teacher for 15 years. My stepfather worked for the CYA for almost 30 years. They both say the common denominator with 80% of the bad kids is sh!tty parents or family. Trash breeds trash – we don’t need to over complicate it. There’s a race element to this also but if you point out data and the relation of problems to ratio of certain races, even here in claycord, it’s racist. Factual, but racist.
The best way to influence some form of justice is to take the parent to civil court. They’ll garnish wages and force them pay. They may even be subject to parenting classes.
So let’s say someone or a group was being bullied, then parents were contacted about it and it escalated to a fine or worse. You think the bullies are gonna just stop or you think they are then gonna go out and bully the living hell out of who complained? Yea you guessed it the complaining person/people would be getting a azz wooping.
Bullying is going on and will continue to go on and not a damn thing anyone can do to stop it.
After spending many years at the elementary schools helping in my kids classes I say NO! The teachers too often allow bullying to go on. Not all of them. But they are in charge of the kids while at school and they need to encourage appropriate behavior. And stand up when they see the bullying. And the administrators……. they need to be fined when they are not doing the right things.
Wow. So now it’s the teachers responsibility to stop bullying?? This is such a misplaced comment and unfortunately many parents share this view – which provides good insight to the poor parenting that’s taking place homes.
Teachers are there to teach and should not have to discipline kids – your kids should be thought how to behave, be good humans and not be disruptive in school.
Let’s not pass the responsibility of raising well behaved kids on teachers. I’m shocked someone who has spent many years in the classroom sees this as a responsibility of educators.
@reality
Yeah, I expect the teacher to take control of the classroom. They are the adult and are trained to teach. To teach, control is required. If they cannot stop the bullying in their class, get the teacher out of the classroom.
The teacher can call the principal, the police … they have options. If they allow the bullying in the classroom, they cannot teach – ie do their job!
So Reality says…
Correct me if I’m wrong but isn’t the Teacher suppose to be the adult in the classroom? Isn’t the Teacher responsible for what occurs INSIDE their classrooms? Schools don’t discipline students? Schools don’t have codes of conduct anymore?
If the Teacher is not responsible then exactly who would be responsible?!? If school principles don’t discipline students who does?
Is it your position that what occurs in classrooms and on the campus is just Lord of the Flies in practice?!?
Martinezmike and Dawg bring up the bedrock problem inherent in the bullying question. Who determines what is bullying, and why are they qualified to do so? The same problem exists with accusations of racism. When everything is racist, nothing is.
Would be unconstitutional and will never happen,just like back in the 70’s and 80’s they would bill the pparents of kids that got sent to juvenille hall,it was unconstitutional and they had to stop and some got reimbursed.
If this was possible it would have been done all over the country already,,anything to collect money for fa-la-la.
There is no plan for this to happen anywhere and is just a question/opinion post here.
There is this middle school kid I’ve noticed at school pick up each day because they are always screaming at the top pf their lungs and does not care who can hear them. Anyhow I just happened to park next to the car they got into the the other day and the adult who i am assuming was the parent proceeded to berate the kid yelling at them, swearing and pointing their finger in their face and right then it all made sense why that kid acted the way they did.
I am not saying it is always the case but I think a pretty large percentage of the time they are modelllng behaviors from the home.
Fines would not be enforceable & mean nothing if you have no ability to pay. But maybe, if your are the parent of a child who has been physically violent with another student, maybe you have mandatory anger-management/ parenting classes you have to attend-in person. Free but mandatory.
,,that’s a better idea imho, mandatory attendance to anger management classes will take their time .. which they will resent more than paying a fine – if they can even pay
Parents should be fined. Both parents and child should be required to attend parenting/behavioral classes. If it is the second offense, child should be removed from the home until the parents can prove that they are able to control their child.
Absolutely not! This would continue to teach the current issue we have in this society. Money will cover up the real issue. Do bad things pay your way out of jail, pay your way with hush money… etc.
How about programs for anger management, conflict resolution, volunteer work in a community setting ( retirement homes, feed the homeless)
What a great idea by the California Demorat politicians!
The Your Kid is a Bully Tax!!