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Today’s question:
QUESTION: Do you think the state will issue a COVID-19 vaccination mandate for high school students?
Talk about it….
Only if Newsom stays in office.
#RecallNewsom
I second that!
There isn’t a high school kid in the county that has died from the covid chinese virus.
Your source? Others disagree.
• COVID-19 deaths by age U.S. July 2021 | Statistahttps://www.statista.com › … › State of Health
Between the beginning of January 2020 and July 21, 2021, of 601,124 deaths caused by COVID-19 in the United States, around 178,151 had occurred among those …
Really? Not one? Are ya sure about that? Maybe go check the CDC numbers again…
ERas
Why dont you find the death of a high schooler in Contra Costa County who died FROM covid? You seem to believe that there is one. I did look at the CDC website .. but all I could find was little information on kids dying FROM Covid.
Ricardoh did not say the United States .. he said County.
The County dashboard says no one 40 or younger has died from Covid in the last 60 days. I am just reading the site ..
Now our county website has changed their reporting, more scarier … it now longer lists the number of cases as a discrete value, but the list of cases per 100,000. If you dig, you can find the discrete number of cases.
So yes, I am pretty sure about Ricardoh said, are you?
And even if you can find a case or two in CCC, does that really warrant masking EVERY child in our county? Let’s put this into perspective, we have over 250,000 children (age 18 and younger) in our county. Yeah, I will take those odds considering my children are vaccinated. They have a better chance of being hit and killed by a car then being killed by COVID.
ERas,
Post up the VAERS deaths count from this “vaccine”……which has killed more than all of the other vaccines since 1997.
No thanks. And OUT with Newsom.
Here are the TOTAL COVID deaths in Contra Costa County for young people. The health dept. will not release details of comorbidities on minors, so there is no way to tell if these people died from COVID alone.
Age 5-12: 0
Age 13-18: 1
Age 19-30: 1
Data from Contra Costa COVID Dashboard
https://bit.ly/2WUZhHs
Given this data, and the fact the “vaccines” appear to have no affect on transmission of the disease, it is absolutely irresponsible to expose children and teens to these experimental “vaccines” unless they are extenuating heath reasons.
Sorry I meant in CCC.
Actually I did say county.
But there are PLENTY of examples of teens who DIED after taking the VAXX.
Other deaths include two 13-year-old boys (VAERS I.D. 1406840 and 1431289) who died two days after receiving a Pfizer vaccine, a 13-year-old boy who died after receiving Moderna (VAERS I.D. 1463061), three 15-year-olds (VAERS I.D. 1187918, 1382906 and 1242573), five 16-year-olds (VAERS I.D. 1420630, 1466009, 1225942, 1475434, and 1386841) and three 17-year-olds (VAERS I.D. 1199455, 1388042 and 1420762).
2,323 reports of anaphylaxis among 12- to 17-year-olds with 99% of cases
attributed to Pfizer’s vaccine.
Just because the death certificate says “death by Convid “ doesn’t mean they actually died from Convid! Fact checked!
Don’t matter to us, our kids were home schooled thru 12th grade and doing excellant for15+ years without public education, now their kids are being home schooled as well and liyving it. Don’t need no stinking public education nowdays at all.
Go ahead and mandate children all you want Ca lots of us won’t pay attention to it if we don’t want to.
Use Spell-Check!
That goes for all of you!
Please don’t take this the wrong way, but from what I just read, that’s kinda scary.
My brown and black bipoc brothers, we have only a 5 to 20 percent vaccination rate. We remember the Tuskegee airmen, we remember the other ravages of the industrial medical complex against minority brown men and women! They injected us with syphilis and laughed about it, for decades! If 90 percent of black or bipoc parents say they dont want their children to get a zero liability mRNA drug, then the answer is NO! Racist medical industrial complex!
@Anon
Well if you remember the “Tuskegee Airmen” then you remember pilots and NOT people who were part of forced medical experiments. Geez.
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Only if this Democrat-led administration receives the teachers union’s permission.
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Follow the science, right?
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Hail Newsolini!!
The government of the State of California mandate something? Yes.
Of course they will, I wouldn’t expect anything else coming from a liberal, authoritarian government.
If Newscum or the MDEA have anything to do with it, then yes.
Is it the right thing to do, NOPE! My children are vaccinated, by free will and personal choice. To force this vaccine on children is wrong. It is immoral. Wrong/Immoral, hence my comment that Newscum and MDEA will mandate it.
People need to have the right to choose what they want to do. If need be, we may need to fight for our rights.
If my kid goes to school, asymptomatic, and gets an unvaccinated kid sick; is that my fault. Nope! The child that gets sick made a choice (likely influenced by the parents and/or social media), it it is not the fault of my child/me. We made a choice to vaccinate, to what we feel is protecting us. Others may make different choices.
I think they will be required to be vaccinated or take weekly Covid test.
When your “rights” can be taken away it isn’t a right, it’s a privilege.
Section 242 of Title 18 makes it a crime for any person acting under the color of law to willfully deprive a person of a right or privilege protected by the constitution or laws of the United States
The state can recommend but NOT impose injections. Obeying an illegal order is optional.
Question, where in the constitution does it cover vaccine injections?
The Tenth Amendment declares, “The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the states, are reserved to the states respectively, or to the people.” In other words, states have all powers not granted to the federal government by the Constitution.
So Eras
You really believe that the states have the power to force vaccinations upon children and others … with an experimental drug? Once it is FDA approved, maybe the tune changes … maybe.
You appear to be willing to give up your rights, but many of us are not. Many of us will stand for our fellow human beings, regardless of vaccination status, and allow them to choose. Isn’t that what BLM and all that jazz was about .. standing up for others?
The idea of mandates is pretty funny. Is it a law or is it an order?
The County should be more concerned about the homeless population prior to pushing it on our kids. Are the homeless not counted in the so-called cases? Why isn’t anyone shoving the vaccine down their throat?
Um, they actually already did… you seemed to have missed that part from months ago…
You had better believe that if newsome remains in office we will see draconian laws like never seen before. The monster will be unleashed and while some might cheer home on right now there will be no stopping him should he decide to turn on you.
After the last year of riots over discrimination, racism and prejudice it blows me away how willing the public is to immediately start discriminating, segregating and being prejudice once again.
If it goes to mandatory vax for HS I predict a sharp drop in attendance. However by then I’m sure it will be illegal to get an education through any means besides government funded schools. You might laugh now but just wait and watch.
@anonogod
So you support mandatory seasonal flu shots for high school students every year?
What about the covid booster shots?
What if you already had covid and have natural anti-bodies?
Are you going to indemnify the children that have adverse reactions to the vaccine?
People are treating this like the bubonic plague, zero high school aged kids in Ca. have died from covid.
Newsome’s draconian shut downs have killed more children via suicide than covid.
The government can’t require an experimental drug be put in a private citizen’s body. State and healthcare workers is a different story. When the FDA gives full approval it could then and will probably be mandated but that is not going to force anybody that doesn’t want it to get it. All we will do is get an exemption. My daughter will not be getting the vaccine but I am in no way an “anti-vaccer.” In fact, my daughter recently had the HPV cancer vaccine. If the vaccine receives full FDA approval, I will re-evaluate the situation but I think it is absolutely reprehensible that any person try to shame anyone that decides not to get the vaccine whether the reason is medical, religious, or simply because there is not yet any research showing possible long term effects. I really do think that all the mandates in the end are going to face an uphill battle in the courts once groups of people start being restricted from doing everyday things like entering a government building or even a private business. I guess it will also depend on how deadly new variants are. We will see I guess.
Why not?
Immunizations required to enter 7th grade:
Tetanus, diphtheria, and pertussis booster (Tdap)
Varicella (Chickenpox)
Immunizations required to enter Kindergarten:
Polio
Diphtheria, Tetanus, and Pertussis (DTaP)
Measles, Mumps, and Rubella (MMR)
Hepatitis B
Varicella (Chickenpox)
Immunizations required to enter Child Care (depends on age when enrolling):
Polio
Diphtheria, Tetanus, and Pertussis (DTaP)
Haemophilus influenzae type b
Measles, Mumps,and Rubella (MMR)
Hepatitis B
Varicella (Chickenpox)
Bc all of those immunizations work differently
This is a whole new ball game never used before until this current human trial
No one has any idea of long term effects
Why don’t some people understand this?
Why not? All of those diseases you mentioned can cause debilitating disease and even death in young people.
COVID has virtually no effect on the young.
See the difference?
@ConcordRez~The Covid vaccines have been approved for Emergency Use Authorization only and do not have full FDA approval…those you mentioned above, have I believe, full approval. A
June 10, 2021 review by FDA’s Vaccines and Related Biological Products Advisory Committee indicated an excess risk for heart inflammation, especially in men 30 and younger.
https://www.fda.gov/advisory-committees/advisory-committee-calendar/vaccines-and-related-biological-products-advisory-committee-june-10-2021-meeting-announcement
All of those vaccines are approved by the FDA and none of them are seasonal flu shots like this one.
It turned me into a newt!
These are extreme coercive policies that steamroll fundamental liberties and are violating basic principles of medical ethics!
Dr. Kheriaty, a professor of psychiatry and director of Medical Ethics Program at the University of California, Irvine states, “Even if the vaccines receive full FDA approval, no sensible understanding of herd immunity can justify forcing vaccinations on healthy young adults who are at minimal risk of hospitalization or death from Covid, especially those who already had Covid. We don’t immunize children against diseases that primarily harm the elderly in hope of reducing transmission risks for the elderly. That would use the recipients as a means to another end, which is unethical.”
+1
Nice post! Thank you!
If CA were to issue a mandate, and someone were to fake a card, would there be criminal penalties for that? Would it be the legal equivalent of lying about your weight?
Faking a card is already illegal. The CDC seal is a government seal, and It is a federal crime, to forge a government seal. The penalty is up to $5,000 fine and/or up to five years in prison.
Well with all the shootings happening now. I would love for kids to stay home k-12. Thankfully we haven’t seen anything in our area and I hope to never see it. It was almost going to happen when I was in high school. A student had a hit list with detailed information as to what class said people were at the time. Thankfully someone saw/found his hit list and was taken to jail
The sheep are again in line to follow their slick haired leader off a cliff. While grocery shopping today, I did not have a mask on. I noticed some shoppers, including workers, had mask down, or below their noses. When I got my items on checkout counter, ready for purchase, then some store manager told me that next time I will have to wear a mask. How odd that they waited til then to say anything to me… because they wanted the sale first. How about ending the hundreds of thousands of potentially covid infested illegals from entering our borders, who are not vaccinated? Wearing a mask makes my breathing condition worse. My medical condition is private, but guess I will have to pull out my inhaler next time I shop.
@ America
I haven’t worn one either. Stay strong.
I always think If this disease was so devastating why would Walmart had stayed open this whole time???
I mean it’s Walmart … 🙄
Thank you JRocks
You are a voice of sanity
The unvaccinated is one of the main reasons this virus is mutating and becoming more dangerous. I can understand immunocompromised and people who are terrified they are going to grow an extra arm in 10 years.
What I can’t understand is why grown adults do not care for the safety of their family and others.
Newsome is doing a great job with California. Do any of you review his website and see the gains we are making on the homeless?
What exactly do you consider draconian laws?
Anyways, try and be brave and get vaccinated or make out your will.
Newsom is doing a great job?
Are you serious? Gains on homelessness? Yeah, it is increasing! Seen the shanty towns behind Marathon refinery off of Solano, or the motorhomes under the overpass. Or the homes dug out in the water way by the Willow Pass Exit off of 680. Or the ones that live behind the Safeway on Contra Costa County next to the old Sears building … yeah, gains.
Draconian laws. Mandating masks for a population that is not dying or getting severely sick from COVID. Mandating a ‘vaccine’ for state workers, that apparently now might need a booster shot. So this vaccine is not like the Polio vaccine, but is really more like a flu shot. O yeah, we are not supposed to compare COVID to the flu. Yet, when you look at the CDC or the CDPH sites they list flu, pneumonia and COVID all on the same line … wow, but we, the people cannot say they are similar.
Newsom is a liar. A cheat. And by far is the worst governor we have had in a very LONG time.
He should be arrested and thrown in jail.
I have to disagree with you about the unvaccinated and the mutating virus. Looking at it from a different perspective I would say the mutating is coming from those who are vaccinated. I am not a virologist but logically that makes more sense to me. The one thing we can all say is, we and the medical industry don’t have all of the answers.
newsom and homeless you say,
“The state of California, with all due respect, has been nowhere to be found on the issue of homelessness for far too long,”
Before newsom became governor in 2019,
he was Lieutenant Governor from 2011 – 2019.
What was his record on homelessness from 2011 – 2019 ?
“… the governor said he plans to forge ahead with spending on housing and homelessness in future years.
“So long as I’m governor of California, that’s not going to be an issue,” he said.”
newsom was member of SF Board of Supervisors, 1997 – 2004.
In 2004 became mayor, June 30, 2004 he held a press conference promising, June 30, 2004, Mayor gavin newsom pledged in ten years the worst of San Francisco’s homeless problem would be gone.
SFgate Chronicle 2014 article https://tinyurl.com/2kfu8bzp
Regarding virus vaccine hesitancy in CA citizens, were doubts about vaccine Safety helped along for partisan political purposes ? ? ?
From thread yesterday August 5, 2021,
‘State Issues Full Vaccination Mandate For Healthcare Workers’
“… liberal media gets it started with blue sky speculative questions on “Safety” of Trump vaccine. A couple weeks or so later, cuomo press conference . . . Trump vaccine “Safety”.
A month after NY’ cuomo bad mouthed trump’ vaccine, copy cat CA governor parrots similar drivel,
“Of course, we don’t take anyone’s word for it,” Newsom said at a news conference on Monday. “We will do our own independently reviewed process with our world-class experts that just happen to live here in the state of California.” ”
Putting concern and doubt in minds of Californians before vaccine even came out. An what a surprise, was just before 2020 presidential elections and after all, what’s more important, people getting vaccinated OR seeding doubt about vaccine Safety to score those mythical political points against Trump?
to see rest go to post August 5, 2021 at 11:24 PM
That’s right Ricardoh, you are not a virologist and don’t know what you’re talking about. Even the Republican governor of Alabama says the unvaccinated are responsible for the spread.
Parent, I agree Newsom sucks, but what exactly should he be arrested and put in jail for? The Republican governor of Arkansas regrets that he signed a bill banning masks in school and asked for the legislature to return and reverse the ban. A court overturned the ban today. State workers can quit if they don’t want to be vaccinated or subject to testing . The reason that this is not like polio is because it has mutated as not enough people are vaccinated.
Dlo IS a virologist. Right Dlo? They aren’t just getting their information from the news. Dlo is the real deal yo,,, respect
Biden is flying tens of thousands of untested, unquarantied and unvaccinated illegal aliens all across the country and we are talking about local high school kids? lol
Yup, I do.
Oh yeah…. they are gonna give us the works!
Then they’ll spend the rest of the century telling us they saved our lives.
I can’t believe the ignorance of some of the people! Did anyone go to school? Science isn’t that difficult people. Put on a mask it not a violation of your rights you can still do what you want. Get the jab. It does not infringe on your rights. You do not have the right to spread disease and illness when it is preventable. It’s is NOT the flu. It’s not living in fear it is being cautious. Simple. If you don’t want to believe it look at Florida their ICU’s haveyoung and old patients
If Newsom survives the recall on September 14th, schools will be closed right after his victory speach. Remember, the unions own him. They didn’t throw over $5M into his “please don’t recall me” campaign for nothing. They will insist on being compensated for their investment immediately.
Gavin won’t have a choice; he is a prostitute for the school unions.
Question is.
Whay are the borders not closed?????????
Why is Biden a hypocrite??????????
What’s funny is I’ve seen this comment many times but not once has anyone ever responded with a rebuttal lol
Well…. I’ll give it a shot, play Devil’s advocate…. ahem!
Okay…. here’s the deal.
As patriotic American citizens we owe it to ourselves & fellow countrymen to strap on the face masks, social distance & bankrupt
our country by avoiding crowding into local businesses and spending all that stimulus money .
Those folks from other countries who are pouring over our border like unvaccinated ants at a picnic, have no such responsibilities!
Close the border? C’mon man…if we were to close the border we would be denying third worlders the opportunity to bring their economic hardship to America and that would be hysterical & xenophobic!
If anybody still has their head in the sand, and has enough sense to want to put in the research … check the legal actions taken by California/German Attorney Reiner Fuellmich and the team of 100 international lawyers and 10k doctors/scientists who are suing multiple organizations for “fraud” … settled case law already done in Portugal and Austria. Very eye opening stuff.
VERY interesting info! Thanks for the heads up.
A quick search of Fuellmich’s name led me to an article entitled, “1.000 Lawyers and 10,000 Doctors Have Filed a Lawsuit for Violations of the Nuremburg Code”
Other articles reported on their success in Austria and Portugal proving the faulty PCR scam…I mean test.
I wish Fuellmich godspeed!!!
My brown and black bipoc brothers, we have only a 5 to 20 percent vaccination rate. We remember the Tuskegee airmen, we remember the other ravages of the industrial medical complex against minority brown men and women! They injected us with syphilis and laughed about it, for decades! If 90 percent of black or bipoc parents say they dont want their children to get a zero liability mRNA drug, then the answer is NO! Racist medical industrial complex!
The fake virus still hasn’t been isolated per the CDC. The tests do not work per the CDC and the FDA. The COVID HOAX is not an actual real virus in reality. It’s a hypothetical virus. It doesn’t exist in real life. You can argue about masks and vaccines all you want. Let me know when you actually read the science.
The number one thing this “virus” has done is prove how extremely ignorant the mass population is. Listening over and over to idiots who lie constantly to you does not make you smart or well informed. It make you a sucker.
Yes. Patrick King successfully sued the health ministry in Alberta Canada and the court concluded covid is not shown to be real. The entire province of Alberta changed it’s covid response because of this ruling.
Search The Queen vs. Patrick King
We’ve been had, people.
This question is hypothetical to stir up hate and nasty comments by people like you.
If it should be a federal thing, then why aren’t all the illegals flooding the border ordered to take the vaccine before being sent to red states?
Oh yeah, the Biden Border Variant doesn’t count.
What is the debate about?
You want to live or die and maybe take others with you?
The shots do not hurt.
I’m a scaredy cat, too, but not in this case.
@stevie
Nobody is scared of a pin prick. What a ridiculous comment. Also peer pressure is a sign of desperation. I couldn’t care less what you think. Being scared of a fake virus is the panicle of fear. Get over it.
The best comments are always the most difficult to find … coincidentally? Not!
The CDC has studied an outbreak of COVID and found that 74% were in FULLY VACCINATED people.
Another study by the CDC found that fully vaccinated people that do get COVID have the same amount of the virus in their noses as unvaccinated people that get COVID.
I would provide exact links to where on the CDC website I found the information but I won’t. All you people that think you are so smart because you listen to the news and do as your told need to learn how to research for yourselves.
While you’re looking read up on how they count cases and deaths. Shocker! They include probable cases and probable deaths, without any proof.
I know the sheep will not believe this but everything I wrote are facts.
Thank you for some fakes. I agree
Let’s see, high school age kids only have around a 99.99995% survival rate with this thing they have called an “immune system” when it comes to the China virus, so of course the idiots who run this state will mandate the way-more-dangerous experimental gene therapy, and there will be no shortage of moron parents who will not only support it, they’ll celebrate it on social media.