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Thank you, and be kind to each other.

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Original G June 28, 2024 - 7:40 PM - 7:40 PM

In politics, nothing happens by accident.
If it happens, you can bet it was planned that way.
–Franklin D. Roosevelt

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DEMs set biden up, flat out elder abuse.
After rioting at chicago DEM convention who will be the candidates ? ? ?
The incompetent newsom and BIG mike ? ?
Who do you think will be DEM candidates ? ?

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Badge1104 June 28, 2024 - 8:32 PM - 8:32 PM

So, it is true aftet all that Joe Biden is not doing so well, despite what the White House and press has been saying all this time. They’ve been saying that he is sharp as a tack and that no one can even keep up with him. We now know this is all been a lie. The big question is what other things are they lying to us about too?

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Captain Bebops June 29, 2024 - 12:03 PM - 12:03 PM

Lots of lies. It’s called “propaganda” and an attempt to control the masses and turn us into slaves for a feudal state. Resist.

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The other Frank June 30, 2024 - 11:41 AM - 11:41 AM

More like “Sharp as a marble”!

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Dr Jellyfinger June 28, 2024 - 8:45 PM - 8:45 PM

Yeah, everybody gave up Biden in unison.
It happened too fast, too obvious…. it was a set up!
Hang in there Joe, you’re still the boss!

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Dr Jellyfinger June 30, 2024 - 7:46 AM - 7:46 AM

And any candidate other than Biden would have a better chance of winning than he does, so lets try to keep him in the race…. Now does it make sense?

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Bob June 28, 2024 - 9:31 PM - 9:31 PM

Never approved of Biden as a politician, or by character.

But, holy living crapsicles do I feel sorry for him as a fellow human being.

The left has zero sense of either morality or humanity.

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The Fearless Spectator June 29, 2024 - 8:53 AM - 8:53 AM

Altruism has been bred out of a growing segment of the US population and self-absorption has replaced it.

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Dr Jellyfinger June 28, 2024 - 9:57 PM - 9:57 PM

I still wanna know what a “sidewaufer” is.

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Dr Jellyfinger June 29, 2024 - 9:21 AM - 9:21 AM

I found it!
According to the CNN cleaned up transcript of the debate what Joe tried to say was:
“And I’m going to continue to move until we get the total ban on the — the total initiative relative to what we’re going to do with more Border Patrol and more asylum officers”
So “sidewaufer” is actually/supposedly “asylum officers”.

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Dr Jellyfinger June 29, 2024 - 9:25 AM - 9:25 AM

I should have included the link to the transcript.
https://tinyurl.com/2xnfjns9

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whenwilltheylearn June 29, 2024 - 4:17 AM - 4:17 AM

They coached Joe to have that”why are you lying?” look on his face but it didnt work,most of what he says and does is weak,old psychology.During the debate,anytime one candidate was talking they should have shown only him with no reactionary facial expressions from the other meant to sway the low IQ

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b2b June 29, 2024 - 6:09 AM - 6:09 AM

Forget about Joe being unfit for running how about he is unfit to be president now but the problem is Kamala would be worse. My favorite is the CNN person Joe (?) who says he has met with Biden and thinks Biden is the best mentally he has ever been. Or Mayorkas, SJP, and others who said the same thing about Biden’s mental state.
I’m belong to a group of old men whose average age is 83. I’ve never seen a single one of us as out of touch as Biden was during the debate.

I’m waiting for our favorite DTS people to give me an update on how many lies Trump is at now. Last week was 30,000+. I laughed when the fact checked said Trump lied about inflation at 140% when it is only 130%. Wow what a whopper!!!

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Commonsensenor June 29, 2024 - 7:23 AM - 7:23 AM

Another I told you so coming in hot. I’ve been telling people that Joe will no way be on the Dem ticket in ’24. After the obvious “no enhancement drugs given” debate, he’s finished. But, that was the plan all along. If you look at his decline just this year, its as if it’s an act, or, they are drugging him into ice cream land. Either or, my money is on Gavin. Why else have a practice debate that didn’t matter with DeSantis? (which, DeSantis handed him his you know what). Enjoy the dog and pony. If the election is stolen again from Trump through letting illegals vote, ballot harvesting, and mail in, better learn how to garden, hunt, and protect your family. Because the entire country full of farmers, truckers, and manufacturers won’t be doing anything other than trading amongst themselves. You can’t eat computer code. Get your house in order now.

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Captain Bebops June 29, 2024 - 12:16 PM - 12:16 PM

But coding software can pay the bills if you can do it. Many of the comp sci grads according to many grey beards who have hired them say can’t even write a simple app. That’s because the kids went for the money not that they had an knack for the art of software development. When the pandemic hit I watched as Microsoft’s teams floundered because they had no ability to work remote. But then my opinion is Windows is 15 years beyond it’s prime. That atrocious OS that Bill Gates foisted on the world is in dire need of replacement (as I type this on my 12 year old Linux machine I built).
 
I can garden but is not my favorite thing to do. I would rather build a robot to maintain the garden which BTW a couple weeks ago drive by highway 4 I see Cal-Trans has a bot that mows down the weeds on the side of road and doing a good job on a slope. But I’ve been through the “survivalist” thing back in the late 70s and learn a few things about and what makes sense and what doesn’t.

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MAGA SAM June 29, 2024 - 9:52 AM - 9:52 AM

Yeah but who are the obama communists running our country for the next 6 months?
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joe biden being a demented idiot is old news to anyone paying attention.
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obama was the takeover of politics. The 16 year plan failed when hillhog clinton lost.
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You’re all lucky for MAGA and should show gratitude by apologizing then voting TRUMP and MAGA down the line.
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Oh and the mask and vaccine mandates were illegal. The constitution is real again. Law and order

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MDUSD Teacher June 30, 2024 - 5:39 AM - 5:39 AM

@MAGA Sam

MAGA is simply another iteration of a minority faction that will rise and then disappear. Most Americans reside in the political center, and time after time, throughout our nation’s history, the nation will revert back to the center of the political spectrum because that is where democracy and republics are best governed. Not in the extremes, but for the common good.

And before you throw out, “Are you teaching that in school? No wonder our students…” Yes we do discuss factions and how the founders struggled with how to control factions. It is written into our institutions and they wrote at length about it.

Here is the California State Standard:
Principles of American Democracy
12.1 Students explain the fundamental principles and moral values of American
democracy as expressed in the U.S. Constitution and other essential documents
of American democracy.
4. Explain how the Founding Fathers’ realistic view of human nature led directly to the
establishment of a constitutional system that limited the power of the governors and
the governed as articulated in the Federalist Papers.
5. Describe the systems of separated and shared powers, the role of organized interests
(Federalist Paper Number 10), checks and balances (Federalist Paper Number 51), the
importance of an independent judiciary (Federalist Paper Number 78), enumerated
powers, rule of law, federalism, and civilian control of the military.

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MAGA SAM June 30, 2024 - 9:13 AM - 9:13 AM

Who cares. Who is running the country for the next 6 months?
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What a shock, a MDUSD “teacher” thinks Making America Great is a minority extremist position.
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A california state standard is a weird flex

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MDUSD Teacher July 1, 2024 - 2:23 AM - 2:23 AM

I threw in the standard because you seem to talk about what I am teaching in the classroom a lot. I teach only the State and National standards.

I did not say extreme, I said minority.

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Linnie June 30, 2024 - 9:35 AM - 9:35 AM

I’m just wondering if 51 former Intel personnel will be signing a letter for Joey to remain in office because he is the only one with street creds to run our country.

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yoyohop June 29, 2024 - 9:53 AM - 9:53 AM

– VOTE with you dollar –

When news broke that Tractor Supply went woke, thousands called to complain. Weeks later Tractor Supply responded by repealing their woke agenda and political activism

“Going forward, we will ensure our activities and giving tie directly to our business. For instance, this means we will:

-No longer submit data to the Human Rights Campaign
-Refocus our Team Member Engagement Groups on mentoring, networking and supporting the business
-Further focus on rural America priorities including ag education, animal welfare, veteran causes and being a good neighbor and stop sponsoring nonbusiness activities like pride festivals and voting campaigns
-Eliminate DEI roles and retire our current DEI goals while still ensuring a respectful environment
-Withdraw our carbon emission goals and focus on our land and water conservation efforts

https://corporate.tractorsupply.com/newsroom/news-releases/news-releases-details/2024/Tractor-Supply-Company-Statement/default.aspx

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JWB June 29, 2024 - 9:54 AM - 9:54 AM

Claycord needs to check their comment template. Some weird cookie issue is happening

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Cyn June 29, 2024 - 3:12 PM - 3:12 PM

@JWB
I swear, you weren’t here a minute ago and now you are.

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Dr Jellyfinger June 29, 2024 - 8:17 PM - 8:17 PM

Yep, somebody posted a comment and it used my name and the same thing happened when I posted a comment a few days ago and it auto filled someone else’s name. Weird.

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Bobfished June 29, 2024 - 10:10 AM - 10:10 AM

It is very obvious that that Joe Biden is not running this country and that some people behind the wall are. We have known about the deep state for quite awhile. That should anger and scare the hell out of everyone in this country! Democrats do not believe in democracy, only power and control.

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Original G June 29, 2024 - 11:07 AM - 11:07 AM

Us old folks remember “Mariel Boatlift”.
Thanks to jimmy The Wimp carter secretly trying to improve relations with cuba.
fidel castro announced 20 April 1980 he was allowing those who wanted to leave could.
What happened, castro shipped violent prisoners and mental patients to America.
Fast forward to 2024, America where DEMs treat criminal illegals as almost a protected class.
‘Shock reality for US of Venezuela’s epic drop in MURDER as
‘thugs who think crime is part of regular life’ come to America’ …
“Violent deaths in Venezuela have plummeted to a 22-year low as criminals increasingly join the millions fleeing the broke socialist nation – many of them entering the US to pursue their own twisted version of the American dream.
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Once deemed the world’s most dangerous city, Caracas has seen homicides fall by a staggering 25 percent when compared to 2023, with the Venezuelan Violence Observatory registering 26.8 violent deaths per 100,000 people, compared to a rate of 35.3 for every 100,000 habitants in 2022.”
https://tinyurl.com/mrx525yp
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‘…Venezuela’s worst gangsters have crossed into the US illegally and are unleashing chaos in Dallas, Chicago and Miami – with fearful residents saying they’ve had tires slashed, windows shot out in retribution for reporting them to cops’
https://tinyurl.com/m4trbkk7
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biden-giggles regime just as obama-biden regime rolled the dice knowing criminals, cartels and gangs would come illegally to America. Pay attention to arrested illegals after heinous crimes which country they came from.
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Just as Florida suffered for decades because mental patients and violent criminals being dumped on them. What castro did to Florida DEMs are doing to our country by transporting illegals all over our country.
DEMs are importing straight up predators, unless decisive action is taken America will suffer increased violence for decades. DEMs do not deserved to be elected to any level of government. Having control and power is not primary,
SAFETY of Americans and adherence to our founding documents is primary.
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Trump gets it,
“Trump spoke of the recent killings by unauthorized migrants entering the country illegally as the country faces unprecedented levels, including the horror death of young Jocelyn Nungaray.”
https://tinyurl.com/mrmcvv2u

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ClayDen June 29, 2024 - 11:57 AM - 11:57 AM

One of the biggest reasons that Joe is running is that Jill REALLY likes being First Lady. Jill is guilty of elder abuse.

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Dawg June 29, 2024 - 1:17 PM - 1:17 PM

The very next day on June 28, after the debate, C-SPAN televised Joe at a campaign rally in North Carolina. He was energetic, and almost as sharp as he was in his State of the Union address. How does he go from befuddled and confused, to composed and alert in just 24 hours?. I think a lot of us know the answer to that.
One thing I noticed about Joe, It doesn’t matter whether he is dazed and confused, or sharp as a whip, he always comes across as a hateful and angry old man. That’s the difference between Joe and Trump, Trump doesn’t hate Joe, he disapproves of his policies and the job he’s doing, but he doesn’t hate him. Joe on the other hand has nothing but hate for Trump, and Trump’s supporters, he and Jill are very sick individuals.

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jjshawk June 29, 2024 - 11:12 PM - 11:12 PM

Trump seemed to “hold back” a bit, props to him for that.

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The other Frank June 30, 2024 - 11:53 AM - 11:53 AM

What you witnessed during the “debate” was the real Joe, having to think on his feet with no artificial aids.
What you witnessed in South South Carolina the next day was a likely juiced up Joe, reading material
prepared by some speechwriter, with the aid of two teleprompters. Ain’t tech wonderful???

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Cyn June 29, 2024 - 3:11 PM - 3:11 PM

I am trying to find JWB’s comment so I can agree with it. Some weird stuff happening on this site.

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Max June 29, 2024 - 3:12 PM - 3:12 PM

They have been lying about everything. The border? Open and bad. The dollar? Everything done for a reason for the great reset. I saw Mrs. BIDEN tell Her husband he did good in the debate. His treat was a trip to the waffle house. It was hard for him to memorize all those answers.

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Original G June 29, 2024 - 6:16 PM - 6:16 PM

In politics, nothing happens by accident.
If it happens, you can bet it was planned that way.
–Franklin D. Roosevelt

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“President Joe Biden was set up in a ‘soft coup’ to oust him, a top Democratic insider claimed last night.
The 81-year-old US President is facing mounting calls to step aside after his disastrous debate performance on Thursday, with sources telling The Mail on Sunday that many believe he was purposely set up to fail.
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A former aide to Hillary Clinton said: ‘There has never been a debate this early before. Traditionally the debates are held after the Republican and Democratic conventions, which are in July and August.”…
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“Biden’s inner circle demanded this early debate.
There is a growing belief this was a ‘soft coup’ because
they know he isn’t fit to govern and have known for some time.”
https://tinyurl.com/37rkd39n
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Question, Who will be replacement candidates for biden and giggles ? ? ?

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The Fearless Spectator June 30, 2024 - 8:46 AM - 8:46 AM

Lester Green is probably at the top of the list. He has name recognition, a following, checks the race box, a youthful age 56, and rose to great success after overcoming significant challenges.
He is more articulate than Joe, and more likable than Kamala.

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Eric J June 29, 2024 - 7:54 PM - 7:54 PM

The 9th Circuit was overridden by the Supreme Court in the Grants Pass OR case. It is time to start creating local ordinances banning sleeping/camping in local city parks, under bridges, along canal trails that are applied equally to all members of our population.

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MDUSD Teacher June 30, 2024 - 5:24 AM - 5:24 AM

All obstructions to the execution of the laws, all combinations and associations, under whatever plausible character, with the real design to direct, control, counteract, or awe the regular deliberation and action of the constituted authorities, are destructive of this fundamental principle, and of fatal tendency. They serve to organize faction, to give it an artificial and extraordinary force; to put, in the place of the delegated will of the nation the will of a party, often a small but artful and enterprising minority of the community; and, according to the alternate triumphs of different parties, to make the public administration the mirror of the ill-concerted and incongruous projects of faction, rather than the organ of consistent and wholesome plans digested by common counsels and modified by mutual interests.
-George Washington Farewell Address 1796

1) Do you agree with Washington that factions are detrimental to republicanism?

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Dr Jellyfinger June 30, 2024 - 9:15 AM - 9:15 AM

“Let’s kill all the lawyers”
William Shakespeare’s Henry VI, Part 2, Act IV, Scene 2

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MAGA SAM June 30, 2024 - 9:17 AM - 9:17 AM

Chevron Deference

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yoyohop June 30, 2024 - 10:20 AM - 10:20 AM

Washington is not arguing that all factions are detrimental – rather that all factions WITH the “real design…to counteract…constituted authorities.” In other words a Deep State that is motivated by their interest and not the will of the people.

Washington’s faction was the Freemasons. If you actually read their source material, you will find populism at the core of their beliefs, not elitism. They encourage people to work within and obey the government, not to secretly subvert it.

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Damned ineffectual June 30, 2024 - 12:23 PM - 12:23 PM

I think factions can be both good and bad. Given that Washington has been the only 3rd party candidate we have ever had highlights that our electoral college system is a hinderance.

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THE BLACK KNIGHT June 30, 2024 - 5:30 PM - 5:30 PM

MDUSD TEACHER,
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What classes do you teach at YVHS?

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MAGA SAM June 30, 2024 - 9:11 PM - 9:11 PM

We can find out through the freedom of information act. 😉

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THE BLACK KNIGHT July 1, 2024 - 10:55 AM - 10:55 AM

MDUSD TEACHER,
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Factions can be both adventageous and/or detrimental. Extremist factions on the left and/or the right would most likely be seen as detrimental by the moderate majority, but the views of those extremist factions can also be used to the advantage of the moderate factions by galvanizing support and unifying those moderate factions. I believe President Washington was smart enough to know that a factionless Congress was impossible to achieve. If we had a one-party system, or a no-party system, individual members of Congress would still assemble themselves together into like-minded factions in order to pass legislation and confirm executive branch nominees or to stop the passage of legislation and reject executive branch nominees. A faction-less Congress would most assuredly require a single-minded hive mind operating as a collective. A congressional majority acting as a factionless single-minded collective would be advantageous due to the ease of passing legislation, but would be equally as dangerous and detrimental, due to the absence of diversity of thought and the ease of passing legislation and constitutional amendments, which may limit or abolish the rights of citizens
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A big problem that we’ve seen with the factions that we call the two-party system today, is that over the last 30+ years we’ve seen the tendency of Democrats nominating only the most progressive or liberal candidates and the Republicans nominating only the most conservative candidates, rather than each party nominating candidates which fit the specific districts and states they’re running in, and would result in the election of moderate and conservative Democrats and progressive, liberal, and moderate Republicans. That’s how the two-faction or two-party system worked for many, many decades. The two-party system of the last 30+ years has resulted in Congress not functioning as designed, the only positive result has been fewer unnecessary bills being passed which would’ve further limited and eroded the rights of the people.

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Lazy K June 30, 2024 - 8:21 AM - 8:21 AM

Sundowning – Joe Biden ?

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The Fearless Spectator July 1, 2024 - 8:43 AM - 8:43 AM

Sundowning?
No, that was “Dark Side Of The Mooning”.

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Max June 30, 2024 - 9:46 AM - 9:46 AM

If Washington, Jefferson, or any of our founding fathers of this country saw this country today, they would be crushed. As Thomas Jefferson once said, if this country is destroyed it would be from within, and some are trying their best to do that, (and it’s not Trump.)

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happypappy June 30, 2024 - 11:54 AM - 11:54 AM

FUN TOPICS FOR YOUR NEXT DISCUSSION GROUP

1. Why is it that only white countries are told they must be racially diverse?

2. Imagine regaining conscientiousness, looking around, and realizing; you’re in a presidential debate?
Should the next one be held at Top Golf?

3. Talking heads at CNN were dumbfounded because there were no previous signs of Joe declining, whatsoever?

4. Required reading if Dems win: “How To Pretend To Be Indoctrinated Enough To Avoid Left-Wing Indoctrination Camps”

5. If you were shocked by Joe’s showing at the debate, perhaps now is a good time to reflect on whether you’ve been watching and reading honest media. The rest of us have known forever.

6. Do you think The Beast will run again” Would you vote for her? Does mental illness run in your family?

7. Now that it’s become well known that the NSA has the ability to spy on all of us, why are pedophiles, illegal aliens, and terrorists running around loose?

8.Since the debate, has anyone checked on that violent sounding wacky-e-doodle DeNiro? Does he seem like a possible risk to others?

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happypappy June 30, 2024 - 3:44 PM - 3:44 PM

……..of the elites, by the elites, and for the elites.

67% of elite oligarchs admit they would lie, cheat, and steal an election rather then lose.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T4X4mE9Ta9k

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whenwilltheylearn June 30, 2024 - 4:38 PM - 4:38 PM

Just saw the most hilarious ad;
“The debate was a stark reminder of the chaos and harm caused by Donald Trump.”
Can anyone name one thing he did harmful to the USA and Americans?

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Cautiously Informed July 1, 2024 - 8:08 AM - 8:08 AM

Trump will destroy the country, the whole world, and entire universe! – According to those that judge and react only according to their emotions.

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whenwilltheylearn June 30, 2024 - 5:01 PM - 5:01 PM

Just saw 2 hilarious ads for Biden.One said-the debate was a stark reminder of the harm and kaos Trump caused,the other said -since the debate we’ve had a surge of donation to Joe Biden(for medication)

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Original G June 30, 2024 - 6:59 PM - 6:59 PM

Well now, would seem woke DEMs running this state into the ground are terrified of We The People.
DEMs were toying with ideas for tampering with ballot initiative to reform Prop 47.
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“Rather than supporting the qualified ballot initiative, Gov. Gavin Newsom and Democrat lawmakers rushed a package of retail theft bills through to mislead voters, adding in “poison pill” amendment provisions to provide that the bills would be repealed if the Fix Prop. 47 initiative is approved by voters in November.”…
Katy Grimes caglobe https://tinyurl.com/mtbudnsu
Approximately 900,000 Californians signed petition to get it on the ballot.
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The DEM fantasy emptying CA prisons began with AB-109 back in 2011 which shoved state’s prison overcrowding problem down onto all 58 CA counties. Prop 47 was DEM knee jerk fix for county jail overcrowding state legislature caused, it made it harder to charge a criminal with a felony state prison population would stay low. They were so desperate to cure what AB-109 caused they spent $10,306,082 to con voters into passing Prop 47.
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The as of yet unnumbered Prop,
“California Drug and Theft Crime Penalties and Treatment-Mandated Felonies Initiative (2024)”
Take some time to read the common sense that has DEMs terrified,
https://tinyurl.com/m9df2b95
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Aren’t you tired of DEM politicians stumbling form one failed idea to their even more screwed up fix?
Here’s a thought, send them a clear message, Vote them out of office !

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The Wizard June 30, 2024 - 8:54 PM - 8:54 PM

Biden did a better job at the debate than I expected and he answered all the questions.

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The Professor July 1, 2024 - 8:24 AM - 8:24 AM

Biden did better than you expected? How bad did you think he would actually be? Were you expecting Joe to fall down? Not show up? Babble jibberish for the whole debate instead of just babbling sporadically? Have a heart attack while telling Wheezy he’s on his way?

Seriously, how bad did you think Joe would do and in what ways did he surpass your expectations? In my opinion, Joe’s performance was a disaster on every level. It was even worse than Nixon vs. Kennedy. The curtain was lifted and we all could see the true Wizard of the White House.

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happypappy July 1, 2024 - 8:54 AM - 8:54 AM

Maybe in the land of OZ

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happypappy July 1, 2024 - 9:14 AM - 9:14 AM

The fact fakers at SNOPES finally admit they lied; That slimy pedophile Joe really did shower with his teenage daughter.

https://tinyurl.com/dmncpyy4

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MAGA SAM July 1, 2024 - 12:36 PM - 12:36 PM

So gross. This biden creep is a sleazeball, not the guy with a beautiful wife who possibly hung out with porn stars once upon a time. Melania is a smoke show.

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happypappy July 1, 2024 - 12:24 PM - 12:24 PM

For the first time in history one can post “he’s an idiot” and the entire world understands.

When you have a sewer backup and your house is filling up with crap, do you raise the ceiling or pump out the crap? Your choice is coming in November.

If you reduce a dog’s chain by one link every few days until his chain is so short that he can’t move he will never resist because he is conditioned to the loss of freedom slowly over time.
That’s what’s happening to you.

AAA claims properly inflated tires can save you 3 cents per gallon. Properly counted ballots can save you 3 dollars per gallon.

“Much of social history in the western world, over the past 3 decades, involved replacing what worked with what sounded good.”
T. Sowell

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whenwilltheylearn July 1, 2024 - 2:32 PM - 2:32 PM

They keep saying Trump “lied” in the debate,but dont mention what he said that was a lie……this is for idiots to just believe……..

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