The recently formed California State Assembly Select Committee on Retail Theft held its first hearing Tuesday, with lawmakers getting a broad overview of the issue from stakeholders in the retail industry as well as criminal justice reform advocates and real estate and law enforcement officials.
Reforms created by Proposition 47, a need for basic consequences, including diversion programs, and better data were the focus of the day’s analysis, along with cracking down on online retailers that sell stolen goods.
Retailers large and small are experiencing a range of increased theft around the state, from minor shoplifting to brazen, coordinated “smash and grab” robberies that cross a $950 threshold for felony charges.
But exactly how much theft is occurring was the subject of much of the discussion during the nearly four-hour hearing, which brought together nine panelists to represent the issue from the perspective of business owners and retail workers, real estate and small business interests, criminal justice reform advocates and law enforcement officials.
Proposition 47 was passed by voters in 2014 to focus criminal justice resources on more violent crime. It included reclassifying some potential felonies as misdemeanors and eliminated petty theft with a prior conviction as a separate offense, among other sentencing reforms.
The law’s alleged consequences, and potential reforms to it, drew much of the attention from lawmakers and panelists, who sometimes disagreed on how much the sentencing reforms the law created contributed to the rise in theft. But all agreed that a lack of data on retail theft from the industry made quantifying trends and losses difficult, and that whatever data does exist is likely skewed due to a range of complex, sometimes contradictory reasons.
Rachel Michelin, president of the California Retailers Association, said she agreed with lawmakers that better, more comprehensive data was needed. She said companies tended to guard those numbers, which she had seen as an obstacle during her tenure.
“That is very, very challenging, because you have to remember, they’re competitors. They compete, and many of them are publicly traded companies,” said Michelin. “So, they’re very hesitant to share specific data.”
Besides reluctance from companies to disclose data on losses from theft, data that does exist, like arrest records, can be unreliable. That’s because not all smaller thefts are reported to police, thefts that are reported sometimes don’t get a response from law enforcement, and people that are apprehended often feel there will be no consequences, especially if the theft is below the felony threshold.
Magnus Lofstrom, a director at the Public Policy Institute of California, said the data had crucial limitations that should be considered, such as the fact that statewide data does not extend beyond December 2022 and that the data is limited to thefts that are actually reported.
“Retail theft is likely underreported, especially low-value theft, and this may also change over time. Also, agencies may vary on how they report and categorize an offense,” Lofstrom said. “And importantly, the data do not allow specific identification of so-called smash-and-grab incidents or retail theft that is organized,” Lofstrom said.
He said overall, crime data indicated that retailers had increasingly been targets of crime from 2021 through 2022 in parts of California, including increases in shoplifting in San Francisco and Los Angeles counties. Felony commercial burglary was up in 21 of the state’s 58 counties from 2019 to 2022 and felony commercial robberies rose in 25 counties during that period.
He said the statewide numbers were in line with national trends without including New York City, which increases the national trend significantly when included.
Ensuring there will be basic consequences for even misdemeanor theft was viewed as key to reducing theft, especially by repeat offenders. Some panelists indicated that Prop. 47 reforms were creating challenges to holding offenders accountable, but others said there was room in the law to jail people guilty of misdemeanor shoplifting in the county jail for up to six months — there was just no room in the county jails.
State Assemblymember Mia Bonta, D-Oakland, pushed back on that assertion, saying more data was needed, and that while she was concerned for the business climate in Oakland, she did not want to rely on incarceration as the primary solution.
Many of the panelists agreed that increasing diversion programs for offenders that would keep them out of jail or prison, but would bring some consequences for their actions and would be a key step in creating reforms going forward.
“We’re not looking to throw people in jail, we just want them to stop stealing, we want them to stop coming in, we want them to stop putting our employees in harm’s way, putting our customers in harm’s way,” said Michelin.
But putting offenders into diversion programs will require a concerted effort by multiple players to make sure that even smaller thefts are pursued by the legal system, including store owners to report the crimes, law enforcement to have the capacity to respond, and the willingness of district attorneys to prosecute.
“Each point in that chain has to do its role,” said Cristine Soto DeBerry with the Prosecutors Alliance of California.
DeBerry also said investigating and shutting down online marketplaces would be central to reducing organized retail theft, naming eBay and Amazon as potential targets for investigation.
Other panelists included Caitlin O’Neil from the state’s Legislative Analyst’s Office, union representative Amber Parrish Baur and real estate representative Jeff Kreshek. Also testifying were Californians for Safety and Justice founder Lenore Anderson and Alexander Gammelgard with the California Police Chiefs Association.
The select committee will hold future hearings early next year.
Could start by reducing petty theft back down to a petty amount. Say $200 or less. Then clarify what is or is not counted as subject to petty theft law. Anything of a federal nature would NOT be petty no matter its value, large or small.
You mean $2.00 don’t You?
They need more data. Five, ten years more? Focus groups? Case studies? Trend Extrapolation?
Not much urgency here.
Well you know what to expect from that group.
“…there was just no room in the county jails.”
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That is because AB-109, passed by FECKLESS INVERTEBRATES infesting CA state legislature. It changed where Felony sentences in excess of 367 days are served. There are now convicted felons with multi year sentence serving their time in county jails, taking up beds that misdemeanor criminal serving their sentences used to occupy. DEM’s favorite solution to problems, usually of their creation, is to shove them with their costs down onto CA’s counties.
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Prior to AB-109 Parole violators were returned to state prison to serve additional time. Today in almost all violation cases, which state forced County Courts to handle, most time they can get because of AB-109 is 180 days in a county jail and because of overcrowding they ‘re usually back on our streets in a matter of days. Misdemeanor criminals, because of jail overcrowding are routinely released long before their sentences would be done. Threat of incarceration for criminals in our state has been reduced into a farcical joke.
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AB-109 turned out to be a giant fiasco causing jail overcrowding in all 58 counties, causing panicked liberals to invent Prop 47 to help ease jail overcrowding by making it harder to charge criminals with felonies. They spent $10,306,082 on a massive advertising campaign to con voters to bail them out of a problem DEMs created in the first place.
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When personal drug use became a misdemeanor (Prop 47) it took an extremely successful tool away from Judges. Ability to impose a harsh Felony sentence which would be immediately stayed, provided defendant got clean-n-sober, stayed that way and maintained steady employment. Defendant was placed on 3 – 5 years of probation with the VERY CLEAR understanding if terms of probation were not adhered to the original Felony sentence would immediately be imposed.
Saw that method work more times than I can count over the years.
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These days IF a substance abuser even gets to Court and Judge learns of substance abuse and offers treatment, defendants decline opting instead for jail. Knowing full well due to jail overcrowding they’ll be back out on our streets after serving a mere fraction of their sentence and long before a 90 day treatment program ended. They’re turned back onto our streets with their addiction behavior intact.
Next time you hear of an OD death remember DEMs, running this state, took away a proven method Judges had to save lives.
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Really want to fix problems knee jerk DEMs keep creating ? ? ?
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STOP ELECTING DEMs
I hold Democrat politicians (and those who voted for them) personally and directly responsible and liable for the significant increase in ALL crime….and now they want to “study” it???? They need “more data?”
Wtf?
The retailers don’t give a $hit; they’ll just raise prices. The higher the increase in prices, the more valuable those items will appear to be – which will further increase crime.
The ONLY thing that’ll solve this is swift punishment to those miscreants…. Which means cleaning the Sacramento swamp. We’re tired of the lazy-a$$ politicians.
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I can tell them how much crime without a fancy committee. the answer is: SO MUCH. There is so much crime that the exact number does not matter.
The bleeding hearts of Californians who choose fake social justice over actual society justice are to blame, woke democrats the ultra progressive ones created this mess and continue to double down by voting democrat and acting like everything is fine, it’s the same people 99% of the time, the same people who have killed my co workers, assaulted my mother simply for standing near a door during a robbery ( let’s call it that because that’s what shoplifting has become) that 1 small part of society, build more prisons and remove district attorneys who refuse to do their job… you can’t replace the income these people make, they don’t want jobs, the want to run into a store and steal $1000 worth of stuff and then sell and earn hundreds of dollars with just minutes of work, no income from a job they’re qualified for can replace that, these people don’t want jobs they want money with minimum work…
More data? They have more than enough data… another stall tactic …. when there is no consequence to theft guess what happens? ok – analysis complete, now action!
The rise in crime we are dealing with now is exactly what the voters in California voted for. This committee is just a dog and pony show. It won’t solve or help anything, but they know they don’t have to. The politicians in California know the Democrat voters will keep voting them back in office no matter how much damage to society their policies cause. Life in California will have to get much worse and dangerous with many more innocent victims before the simple thinking voters wake up and vote for change.
Need More Data= We ain’t gonna do s**t!
Democrats’ modus operandi:
1. Create problem
2. Spend money studying said problem
3. Implement taxes and regulations to “solve” problem while taking full credit.
4. Repeat
…but not really solving the “problem”
The hobgoblins don’t fear the law, they must be shown to fear the victim!
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More data??? how about getting off your lazy A$$ and go out and watch what is going on and listen to the people on the loosing end of this. Look around at the stores that put things like deodorant under lock and key…they do that for a reason. Calling for more data is simply a way not to do anything asked of you right now
Somewhat appropriate (and a little scary) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5sZnphH7L80
Stealing is stealing. Any amount for thievery should be grounds for prosecution.
THIS IS the reason . . . . . .
where’s the deterrence ? ? ? ? ? ?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ei6UtgOisoc
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If there is no threat of incarceration,
there is no deterrence to criminal behavior
Dude that vid. is so powerful and it shows we cannot have civilization unless this is corrected.
I’ll bet Bonta would change her tune if she becomes a crime victim….