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The “Water Cooler” will be up Monday-Friday at noon.
Today’s question:
QUESTION: Do you think the Israel-Hamas War will lead to World War 3?
Talk about it….
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Because of Joe shutting down our oil production the price per barrel is up and restrictions on Iran’s oil sales is off they’re flush with oil money
The DOJ invited an Iranian judge to Washington DC who wants to put Trump in jail for killing the Iranian General who had killed US soldiers. We are lost. It is beyond belief that our country has sunk this low.
NO, . . . . . terror leadership will likely be eliminated.
Israel is capable of pay back, using overwhelming lethal force if needed.
Would not be surprised if terror leadership in other countries, in years to come are eliminated.
No but I believe our feckless commander in chief will. A weak world view invites the bully’s to have free reign. Fear of consequences keeps savages in check and there are none here… oh wait a minute…. “I will impose the strongest of sanctions on them, so strong they won’t be able to fight” well we have heard that before. useless idiot.
I have tried to explain before that world wars come from coalitions. However in the case of Israel we have a different problem. I think that Israel deserves to have a country but they are surrounded by countries that cry death to Israel. That makes it difficult to give the Palestinians the freedom that they want. Iran seems to be playing a part in this agitation and I think the US should do like Trump did when he took out the Iranian general and that is take out the mullahs of Iran. Iran is a problem for most of the middle east so I don’t think there would be any repercussions. Will it get done? Not a chance with Biden in office. In the end I think Israel will do their best to take out hamas and things will quiet down until the next time. World War would be more likely to come from the Ukrainian war.
The Iranian people are ready to take out the Mullahs themselves. They had anti-regime protests and riots all summer long, and the Mullahs were reeling. Then Biden came in and threw them a life line with the nuke talks and bailed them out. Gave them billions, helped stabilize their control and end the protests.
Oh, the guy that led the negotiations had actual Iranian agents on his staff helping to create that policy. But since that reflects badly on Democrats, the media is mostly ignoring it.
I don’t think there is going to be a Palestinian Gaza when the IDF is done. They will slaughter anyone that resists, expell anyone they consider a trouble maker, and make Gaza a part of Israel proper, subject to their direct control. They have always had the hard power to do this, but have been stopped by a lack of moral authority to do so. The world would have screeched war crime. Hamas just gave them that moral justification.
What the h*ll was Hamas thinking? Israel is ready to do whatever it takes to make sure this can’t happen again. If that means dead civilians in Gaza, they DGAF anymore.
Good lord, what a mess.
No, I due think that Israel knew about the attack and let it happen so they could go all out and take out Hamas completely.
I’d love to see some information in support of that. I’ll wait here…
Well Egypt got wind of it & warned Israel that something was going to happen although they didn’t have details, but they said the Israeli’s were not too interested… go figure.
In any case, Israel should hurry up & nuke Iran’s bomb program before they finish development because Iran can’t wait to drop nukes on Israel and they will ASAP.
I would rather they take out the mullahs.
RICARDOH,
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It’s been illegal for the U.S. to engage in political assassinations since the Ford Administration.
Black Knight. So soldiers and civilians die by the thousands because we can’t take out their leaders. Does that make sense to you. We have hundreds of laws that make no sense.
The other thing is what makes that political? Think !!!
RICARDOH,
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The political would be the political leader/leaders of a country, but the killing of military leaders, such as the Iranian General who President Trump gave the order to kill is a different story.
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There are “exceptions,” such as killing a political leader in a military action.
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-We tried to kill Muammar Gaddafi when President Reagan gave the order to bomb Libya.
-We tried tried to kill Saddam Hussain when President G.H.W. Bush gave the order to begin bombing during Operation Desert Storm.
-President Clinton tried to destabilize the Yugoslavian government and tried to kill Slobodan Milosevic and other leaders with NATO bombings in the Balkans.
-We tried to kill Mullah Omar, the Supreme Leader of Afghanistan, and other Taliban leadership when President G.W. Bush gave the order to begin bombing Afghanistan, as well as trying to kill Saddam Hussain, his sons, and other Iraqi leadership when he gave the order to begin the “shock and awe” bombing of Iraq.
-We tried to kill Muamar Gaddafi when President Obama gave the order to begin “leading from behind” bombing of Libya.
-We tried to kill Bashar Assad when President Trump gave orders to begin bombing Syria.
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Out government plays the no assassination game, but if a foreign political leader is “accidentally killed” in a military action it’s legal.
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These laws and executive orders pretty much put an end to CIA assassinations of foreign political leaders.
Killing Gaddafi was a huge mistake but that is on Hillary. I don’t think Iran will get like Libya got.
RICARDOH,
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Not since President Reagan authorized Operation Praying Manthis where up to half of the Iranian Navy was sunk or heavily damaged has Iran paid much of a price for their actions.
That makes no sense. Anyone that knows a little about Israel, will know that they are very protective of their own citizens, unlike Hamas and other terrorist groups. Last year, Israel traded one Israeli soldier for I think hundreds of terrorists that was held by Israel. Also Israel have never felt they had to have an excuse to defend themselves.
The same thought crossed my mind. Netanyahu is a terrible person. Wouldn’t put it past him.
I’m not a huge fan of Netanyahu, but you are almost equating him with Hamas. They went into Israel, killed innocent civilians, women, children, older people. They kidnapped people, raped young women, parading them through the streets. There is no comparison between a terrorist organization and a leader of a country, even if you find him heavy handed at times, as do I. However, this kind of terrorist attack, calls for a very strong response.
It’s a good question. No area in the world is under more surveillance than Gaza. How did Israel miss this attack coming?
The same way we didn’t see 9/11.
Maybe. It depends on the plans or Klaus Schwab and friends
Are you referring to Charles Schwab? What in the world does he have to do with this. Your comment comes of as anti semetic!
HANNE JEPPESEN,
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No, MARTINEZMIKE was referring to Klaus Schwab, the founder and head of the World Economic Forum.
Geez…🙄
Hanne – pay attention.
I do especially what is happening in Israel. I can’t be expected to know everything.
It could but probably not… especially due to the lack of leadership strength here – start with Afghanistan, now getting weak knees with Ukraine, Israel should just take them out… if Iran makes a move of Hamas support we get involved and take out the leaders there – and their nuclear capability. Not that I put a great amount of credibility in Nostradomus predictions (although many did come to be).. I think he had the third, and final, world war starting in the Middle East.
No. It didn’t even make the US stock market fall today. Sort of related, I highly recommend a movie I saw on Prime video a couple of nights ago on Kanji Ishiwara who was responsible for generating a fake attack in Manchuria in 1931 which was the actual starting point for WW2.
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It wont be “World War III”. War will break out but fought by proxies through Israel and Hamas. The latter of which is designated by as a terrorist organization by Canada, the European Union, Japan, generally all of South America (35 nations), and the United Kingdom.
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Israel will prevail. I hope they and all supportive nations destroy, exterminate, and annihilate all Islamic Hamas extremists.
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Iran and Syria… are you listening?
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“The most merciful thing in the world, I think, is the inability of the human mind to correlate all its contents.”
Hanne,
you send an email to the tom Sullivan show?
he started to read it at the end of the show, but said he’d read it tomorrow; was out if time….
I did. Tom was saying he couldn’t understand why someone would willingly go to live in such hot mess of a country. Meaning people that left the US and other countries to live in Israel. Please understand Tom is a supporter of Israel. I send an email saying I was born and raised in Denmark, but went to live and work on a kibbutz for 3 month when I was 20 years old. I went on to say that Israel is a beautiful country, and while living on the kibbutz I met people from all over the world that have chosen to move to the kibbutz. A British couple, several people from different South American countries, a woman doctor who had been in a concentration camp. The Jewish writer and scholar Daniel Gordis explains very eloquently in his book “If a place can make you cry” why some Jews feel the need to move to Israel. Daniel Gordis and his family left Los Angeles to move to Jerusalem. I also mentioned that I found a certain similarity between living in New York City and Israel, both are very intense.
For me Israel was fascinating, intense and mysterious. Although I’m not very religious there was something special about walking through the streets of Nazareth and Jerusalem. This last paragrah was not in my email to Tom’s show. I will never forget the time I spend in Israel, although many years ago I remember much of it like it was yesterday. My heart aches for the people of Israel today. I have sympathy for the innocent Palastinians, but they choose Hamas to be theire leader. There will only be a 2 state solution when they will recognize Israel’s right to live in peace. I believe a 2 state solution is in everyone’s interest, but as long as they act like barbarians it won’t happen. Can’t help wonder what would have happened had the Palastinians followed the methods of Ghandi or Martin Luther King. Obviously, the path they have chosen, is not producing results for them, seems to me they are self destructive.
HANNE JEPPESEN,
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Why did you leave the kibbutz?
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I’ve never been to Israel, but I do have several family members who were recognized as Righteous Among the Nations at Yad Vashem in Israel.
When I was 19 years old I was at a bording school, in my native Denmark (close to the German border). We had a guest speaker from Israel, he told his story how he was born in Germany and had to flee the Nazi’s when he was 14 eventually ending up in Israel and fought for their independence in 1948. At that time there were and organization in Denmark whose purpose it was to arrange for groups on young Danish people to go and work and live on a kibbutz for 3 months. We were about 6 to 8 girls from my school that decided it would be a great experience. We had to pay for the trip down there (by train from Copenhagen to Venice) ship from Venice to Haifa, with stops in Athens, Corfu and Crete). but while on the kibbutz everything was paid for by the kibbutz. We were promised several trips to see Israel all arranged by the kibbutz and our leader, we also got close to a week where we could travel on our own. Believe it or not we hitchhiked from the Golan Heights to Tel Aviv. The kibbutz I was on (Kfar Szold) had 45 young people from Denmark that summer, we had 2 Danish leader a little older than us. We picked apples from 5:30 in the morning to 9, and again a couple of hours late afternoon, because we were not use to the heat we didn’t work in the middle of the day. My kibbutz had a swimming pool, the food was good, bread made the same day in the kitchen, vegetables and food grown on the kibbutz. It was an unforgetable 3 months, made new friends saw and experienced so many new things. We were assigned a kibbutz family, we could attend lectures that told the story of how Israel was formed in 1948. After my stay there I have always followed what happened in Israel, and have read many books about not only the story of Israel, but the story of the Jews.
HANNE JEPPESEN,
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Thumbs up! Great story and quite an adventure you had. Thank you for sharing.
I remember visiting Yad Vashem..l cannot in words how moving it is.
Black Knight, Probably if l hadn’t gone to lsrael not sure l would have decided to come to the US. When my girlfriends and l returned to Denmark, 2 of the girls we had been in the kibbutz with invited us (2 of my girlfriens). to their native Iceland. We accepted and spend 3 months in Iceland working in a marmalade factory. We left Iceland by ship went to Edinburgh, then hitchhiked through England, Northern France, Luxembourg, Belgium, Holland Northern Germany back to Denmark..When l got back to Denmark my country felt very small and l wanted to improve my English, l had always been fascinated with the US so l applied for an au pair position in Westport CT and got it. Arrived there in January 1967, 3 months after returning from Iceland. Was going to stay 1 year, obviously l’m still here.
Biden gives 6 billion to Iran. Iran funds Hamas. Hamas fires on Israel. Politicians – both blue and red – push for US support to Israel.
This is the uni-party at work – our tax dollars and future going to fund senseless wars in other countries.
all the signs of end times. Here we go folks!
Brush up on the Bible.
I could be wrong, but I thought it was peace in the middle east that was a harbinger?
YES! With mush brain biden as (p)resident anything is possible. Putin is threatening to nuke us.
We get mixed up in OTHER countries wars so of course they are going out for REVENGE.
It doesn’t matter what we choose to call it.
The west waists so much time and energy trying to figure out who planned these barbaric attacks and who the actual “leaders” are of these evil bastards as though we can take them out and all of this garbage will stop. It won’t stop until we kill it.
There are hundreds of videos of these attacks online. Don’t fear them, watch them. You will see what the west calls “Palestinian citizens” recording these acts and celebrating them. The trash that committed atrocities are housed, fed, clothed, and supported by the people of Gaza. Nobody is condemning them. We know and understand what true evil is. We’ve seen it, our history has recorded it.
We don’t need any higher moral authority than the Torah where the state of Israel is mentioned 367 times and clearly states that God calls for us to kill the murderers? It’s time to renew our faith in God, trust His word, and eliminate this evil before it eliminates us.
P.S. I was on a kibbutz (Kfar Szold) that was located close to the Syrian border, Golan Heights. There were a big hill from the kibbutz and then a piece of land controlled by UN soldiers. The Lebanese border was 3 miles away. At that time Lebanon were more friendly to Israel, was actually were able to go to the border and put on foot in Lebanon. Jordan at time were very hostile to Israel. When we drove to the Dead Sea we had to drive along the border to Jordan, we were transported in big trucks that had benches in the back, and open sides. We were told if we heard anything that sounded like gun fire to throw ourselves at the bottom of the truck. Quite a chock coming from peaceful Denmark. However, nothing happened. A few times when we were out in the fields of the kibbutz, some Israeli jets got to close to the Syrian border and the machine guns went off.
That was quite an experience Hanne.
Yes, an experience of a lifetime. I’m still in contact with 2 of the girls I went to Israel with. I feel lucky to have had that experience.
If Israel’s response is directed at Hamas leadership, then no. If Israel moves forward with its stated plan to withhold electricity, food, and water from all Palestinian civilians, many of whom are children and all of whom are blockaded by Israel within Gaza, then they are responding with genocide and it may well lead to WW3.
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Israel should evacuate and then carpet bomb every square inch of the Gaza strip.
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Leave nothing standing. Make it a no ones zone.
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To me a truly World War would require sustained conflict between two or more global military powers spanning continents.
Every decade it seems somebody tragically miscalculates in the Middle East and Israel has to reshuffle the deck. As long as the US taxpayer spigot stays on, Israelis will be fine. Going to get real ugly though, may want to turn away if you’re squeamish.
Aren’t we already by proxy?
I think world war like pregnancy and finger prints, doesn’t lend well to proxy. With only our entire history as a species to draws from, it may be that war is as essential to the human condition as all the good stuff we like to gush about.
But honestly I don’t know anything, I was talking about killing a guy with a shovel just the other day. 🤷🏻♀️
It’s so laughable. Seeing the Hamas supporters coming out and justifying what they did. Justifying the massacre of 200 kids at a music festival. I’m Jewish, I was raised Jewish, I had a bar mitzvah, and I shook the rabbi’s hand. Call me biased, but finally the IDF is going to really show these terrorists what ramifications are.
Like AOC.
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She’s a loon.
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We are witnessing once again the horrors of the war between good and evil.
In the end, there will be no winners as there will be only losers.
Uncountable lives will be lost, families destroyed, lives changed forever, people lost forever.
The costs are incalculable, not only financially but personally.
Historically we see the world change from good to evil with some regularity.
I can only hope and pray that goodness prevails and that peace prevails for eternity.
This conflict would require someone outside our frame of reference to make any objective judgment on good vs evil at this point. Christianity,Judaism and Islam are all like-rooted Abrahambian religions long steeped in the blood of non-believers. And all have their own persecution tales to justify their actions and fuel their persecutions of others.
I’d rather just war for resources. At least that stays rational.
No, but I hope Israel takes this opportunity to wipe Hamas out.
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IDF should evacuate the Gaza strip and carpet bomb all of it. Make it uninhabitable.
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This is an escalation on a grand scale on the world stage. Strings are being pulled and pawns are being put into place and moved around on the invisible chess board. Innocents are dying because of division and manipulation all based upon hatred that has been going on for many years.
If you pray, now is a good time to pray for peace.
“I know not with what weapons World War III will be fought, but World War IV will be fought with sticks and stones.” ~Albert Einstein
It might lead to WW3. The biggest winner in this mess is Putin. It takes our focus off of Ukraine. The Putin fanboys in the House had been successful in blocking aide to Ukraine prior to deposing McCarthy. The attack on Israel will lead more of them to say we can’t afford to support both Ukraine and Israel. No aide to Ukraine means Putin will win the war. Emboldened by his success, Putin will continue on his quest to rebuild the Russian empire, invading and conquering other countries. And then we have WW3.
THE aid in Ukraine is probably, in part going to fund Hamad. Less then half of the weapons and aid are actually getting to Ukraine. WE are funding the next generation of terrorists.
It took years to build up WW2. Sure this time period will be considered WW3.
If WW3 were to erupt, it seems incorrect to say that things started in Israel based solely on the fact that there are other armed conflicts occurring. Either way, as depressing as it gets
The Jewish people not only deserve a homeland, but also an army to defend them. I wish it didn’t have to come at the expense of the Palestinians.
I had read recently that Lenin had actually offered up Crimea for the Jewish Homeland after WW1.
The were several suggestions as to where a Jewish homeland might be. Some suggested Madcasgar. Of course every one that have read the history of the Jews would know that after the Holocaust only Israel would be acceptable. I’m confused about Lenin offering Crimea, Lenin died in 1924 (I think) the talk about a Jewish homeland didn’t really take hold until after the horrors the Holocaust came to light, when the war ended.
We don’t need a homeland. Nobody has a “homeland” Open borders is trending.
Israel was warned.
https://nypost.com/2023/10/09/israel-ignored-warning-something-big-was-coming-egyptian-official/
Destroy Hamas
Destroy Hezbollah
Destroy the Taliban
Destroy the Iranian government.
Terminate Putin and his oligarchs
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Restore order.
Tempting, but it is not realistic.
No, there is too much to profit from having on-going wars. Peace weakens economies.
Military-Industrial Complex Speech, Dwight D. Eisenhower, 1961
https://avalon.law.yale.edu/20th_century/eisenhower001.asp
saddam hussein and muammar gaddafi were living proof of a mindset, evil men can commit.
Imagine how different world would be if they’d had nukes.
Fetal weakness obama/biden regime projected served to embolden iran.
444 day jimmy The Wimp carter was proof of iran’ belligerence.
President Reagan stood up to libya and iran and world became a little safer.
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Having an enfeebled president and harris, sends message of a country with no stomach for conflict.
First putin, now iran, along with n korea and china, Taiwan will likely be invaded and expect iran to escalate.
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An were stuck with an administration putting out a military enlistment campaign
using a drag queen. . . . Really ? ? ?
Gives one the impression our country is being run by a committee of high school freshman.
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“History teaches that war begins when governments
believe the price of aggression is cheap.”
—Ronald Reagan
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“We maintain the peace through our strength;
weakness only invites aggression.”
–Ronald Reagan
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