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California’s No-Bid Contract With Kaiser Triggers Concerns – Other California Health Insurers Say The Special Deal Is Unfair

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By Ana B. Ibarra – CalMatters

State health officials have proposed a no-bid contract that will allow Kaiser Permanente to expand its Medi-Cal coverage area, triggering anger from other health insurance plans and questions from a key legislator.

The proposed contract, which would begin in 2024, allows Kaiser Permanente to skip a bidding process required for other commercial insurers to participate in Medi-Cal, the state’s health insurance program for low-income residents. The bidding process for all other insurers starts Wednesday.

As first reported by Kaiser Health News, the state’s special deal with Kaiser Permanente has raised concerns among other Medi-Cal plans. They say Kaiser Permanente is getting special treatment that bypasses state procedures and allows it to cover only certain portions of the population.

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Nonprofit local health plans, which cover the majority of Medi-Cal enrollees, estimate that Kaiser’s expansion could strip them of up to 30% of their members in some counties.

“Offering a statewide, no-bid contract on a silver platter to a commercial plan undercuts the local public health infrastructure while paving a path for large-scale corporate health plan expansion in Medi-Cal,” Linnea Koopmans, chief executive officer of the Local Health Plans of California, said in a statement. Her organization represents 16 local health plans, which will not have to bid for a contract since they are nonprofits.

The contract would have to be approved by the Legislature and federal officials before it would be implemented.

Sen. Richard Pan, a Sacramento Democrat who chairs the Senate Health Committee, said the state’s move raises many questions. Because local Medi-Cal plans usually report to counties and public boards as well as the state, he wants to know whether Kaiser will engage in a similar process to answer to the local communities they serve.

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Pan also has questions about how the state’s payments to Kaiser and other health plans will reflect the potential differences in their mix of patients they end up serving.

“If the counties are concerned and they start calling their legislators there might be a lot of questions about this,” Pan said. “Kaiser Permanente is a good system, and I’m not saying this is a bad idea, but there are a lot of things here we have to understand.”

As part of the agreement, Kaiser Permanente will only have to cover three main groups of people: existing Kaiser members, foster youth and people who are dually eligible for Medi-Cal and Medicare, which covers seniors and people with disabilities, according to officials at the state’s Department of Health Care Services.

One of the biggest concerns of the other health insurers is that if Kaiser is only responsible for certain types of patients, then the sickest and most costly patients could be left to them.

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Health plans say that allowing Kaiser to limit its enrollment to certain people could mean that their population will be healthier, less costly and easier to manage.

State officials, however, pointed out that Kaiser would have to serve people on both Medicare and Medi-Cal, known as dual eligibles, which are among the most complex patients because they have disabilities or are 65 and older. “So this is definitely not a low-risk population, and similarly with foster youth,” said Michelle Baass, director of the state’s Department of Health Care Services, said in a call with reporters.

Kaiser’s Medi-Cal enrollment is expected to grow by 25 percent under the contract, serving 32 counties.
“The reason we’re proposing to enter into this situation with Kaiser is that they are a unique plan partner, they are both a plan and a provider and are bound by their physical capacity,” Baass said.

Baass said Kaiser’s unique structure does not allow it to build out a network of providers like other health plans can. “We know they provide our highest performing plans in terms of quality and consumer satisfaction and want to recognize that and their unique situation,” she said.

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But Koopmans said “Kaiser’s claims of capacity limitations rings hollow considering they have capacity for Covered California, Medicare, and private industry. Apparently, in Medi-Cal they just don’t have capacity for the people with the most need.”

Dr. Bechara Choucair, Kaiser’s chief health officer, said “the goal is not for Kaiser Permanente to compete with the safety net but to support it. We are not competing with other Medi-Cal plans for members, nor are we seeking to turn a profit off Medi-Cal enrollment.”

Choucair said Kaiser has participated in Medi-Cal for decades despite incurring losses from it every year. “It’s one of the many ways we work to help improve access to health care for people who otherwise cannot afford the care they need,” he said.

Among the people who would be allowed to join Kaiser’s Medi-Cal plan are those who were Kaiser members but lost their job-sponsored health insurance and are new to Medi-Cal, state health officials explained. This provision would allow them to keep their doctors.

Health advocates say the agreement is concerning given Medi-Cal’s expanded role under the state’s CalAIM initiative, which is supposed to help address social issues for vulnerable populations such as homelessness.

“We urge the department to require Kaiser to do more in Medi-Cal, including further diversifying future enrollment,” said Kiran Savage-Sangwan, executive director of the California Pan-Ethnic Health Network.

Medi-Cal insurance plans have to meet certain standards of transparency, quality, access and equity set by the state health department.

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The only question I have is who paid who how much?

BTW, this is just how Communism works.

Kaiser will get the deal it paid for.

The state legislature will rubber-stamp the deal.

This means that whoever took the bribe is at the top of the ladder.

Too bad people voted their voting rights away.

There is no recourse.

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This might be a “no-bid” contract, but no one said it is a “no-bed” contract. Because it is obvious that someone is getting screwed in this deal, with or without permission.

Newsom’s emergency powers need to go, all he’s using them for is to make backroom deals and screw with the citizens.

That will do wonders for waiting times. You want your ears checked. You could now make an early appointment in May. Need an operation you may have to wait six months or longer. The labs work good anyway.

People on welfare use their free medical like it is going out of style.

Sen. Richard Pan is the same guy pushing legislature in CA to require ALL kids to be vaccinated for Covid 19 in order to attend schools and removes personal expemptions against it. It would go into effect Jan.1rst 2023 if it passes. Senate bill 871

His friend Weiner also wants kids 12 and up to be able to get the vaccine without parental consent.

“Nonprofit local health plans, which cover the majority of Medi-Cal enrollees, estimate that Kaiser’s expansion could strip them of up to 30% of their members in some counties.”

Kaiser is also a nonprofit.

What’s not clear from this article is what the heath care organizations are bidding for. Will the winning bid be the exclusive provider for something? If so, what and for how long? I had always assumed that organizations became licensed to provide some or all Medi-Cal services. If you could demonstrate that that you were capable of providing some minimum set of services to some minimum quality standard at an agree on price, then you were licensed to accept Medi-Cal patients and could bill the Medi-Cal system for services rendered to those patients. Is that not how it works?

The Permanente Medical Group which is owned by the Doctors is for profit.

The Kaiser Foundation Hospital is not for profit, not nonprofit.

It takes a play book to know what is what with Kaiser.

Thank you Janus. I had not known that. I read the Wikipedia article on Kaiser and also learned “This resulted in a financial disaster when Kaiser splurged on the new Walnut Creek hospital.”

Overall, the history on that Wikipedia article is interesting. People and organizations have been struggling with finding a good balance for the financial side of medical care since at least the mid-1940s.

Cronyism and corruption on display in Sacramento yet again…

Sounds unfair, who knows what kind of deals were made to secure a “no bid”, I hope the other Insurance Companies sue, but they won’t, the State would punish them

Without any evidence or further information, I would like to officially declare shenanigans.

OMG, are you kidding me? Kaiser/Seeno. I agree with Cellophane. WHO paid who. Again our corrupt government entities.
Wow, over the years I’ve seen Kaiser’s “Quality” of service go down hill, will this make it worse?
Also, long time ago when I felt Kaiser was of some Quality, people would say, “Oh Kaiser is like a cattle drive, Move them in and Move them out” and that is how I now feel about a lot of their services. Some high ranking Paper Pusher racking it in. If you all remember years ago when Robbie Pearl was the Big Wig, California said they wanted to model their Health Care after Kaiser, I believe when I saw that on TV there was some actual hand shake after that comment, here you go people..

Politicians accept bribes. In return, they promise future legislation, future employment positions, future government contracts etc to their owners..all of that is dependent on them having a long career in politics to pay back the bribes. This all gets screwed up however if the politician goes down for saying something, getting into legal trouble, their image tarnished and therefore no future in politics, or any number of reasons..and when that happens the politicians are on the hook because they haven’t settled their debt.

Barring some black swan event (like covid) politicians are a very profitable asset. However, with covid there has been a massive shift in how people see just about every politician. Those politicians like Newsom (and his aunt Nancy) who only exist to make money through bribes and back room deals, have seen their asset life depreciate extremely fast Over the last 2 years with their constant screwups and flip flops (because they have no morals and literally just take orders).

Newsom is doing all of these deals and hanging on to emergency powers because he’s trying to pay everyone back (like many democrats are doing). His future was all going according to plan: SF mayor, Lt. Gov, governor, and next stop was the White House. He may still try to run for President but Newsom is downright unelectable outside California, and he knows this, his owners know this, and the democrats know this. He’s using his dwindling powers to settle debts because there is no longer a future for him in politics as the democrats and their owners are already beginning to work on their next California pawn they can move through the ranks and maintain complete control over. They’re going to work on controlling the next generation of politicians Newsom is a failure and old news.

This is not a government of the people. This is a government of special interests, corporations, and foreign powers.

My question is this: are these the same health care providers that complain about Medi-Cal patients because reimbursement rates are so low?

As I’ve said many times before; I wouldn’t use Kaiser if THEY PAID ME; instead of the other way around. WAAAY too many skrew-ups and lousy service. Lots of (Kaiser) friends of mine finally bailing out of the Big K (a bunch of crooks in doctor’s clothes.)

Good luck with their new choice, they’re all the same.

I can tell you from personal experience that Kaisers way of handling Medi-Cal patients is far superior to the County Hospital in Martinez. If I have an urgent need, I can get a appointment (at least phone call or video) if not the same say, the next. I can send her an email, and she gets back to me in no more than 2 days. Granted, not all Kaiser physicians are as responsive as her.

When I was in desperate need of help with a severely mentally ill individual I could get NO HELP AT ALL until he saw his personal physician. He couldn’t get an appointment with her for three weeks. I couldn’t leave her a message, get a phone call or send an email. They wouldn’t even admit him, without going through the ER. I Finally had to take him to a facility down on the Peninsula. They weren’t much help either.

I’m a little confused.
Does this mean that all the county welfare patients are now going to be showing up at Kaiser too?
Are as current Kaiser members going to suffer? (I love my Kaiser they’ve been super)

They already do have to take some Medi-cal/welfare patients and probably always have. But, yes. The more we all have to pay for these welfare leeches, the worse everything is for the people who hemorrhage the money for it.

…what else would you expect from Newsom? if you voted against the recall don’t complain

When in doubt, always follow the money when politicians are involved.

If Kaiser is allowed to cherry-pick Medical patients, then other insurers will either have to charge more for the sicker patients, or else pass the cost on to people who have to pay for their own insurance.

As with almost every other problem California is facing, you can trace it back to the corruption of single-party governance.

Last Tuesday, I received a call at a Contra Costa County health clinic I work at from a Kaiser rep. wanting to know if our facility could/would provide primary care for their patients. What? Now I know why. Kaiser will contract for all services and provide none themselves. We are seeing the majority of their patients that choose to be vaccinated already. Primary care is Kaiser’s responsibility. Kaiser will maintain your health.. Not treat your health needs..

Maybe we should just stop paying for lazy, worthless bum to have healthcare on the taxpayer dime? How about THAT as the real solution???? Most of these folks screwed themselves and now WE have to pay for it. I know exactly how this works, as I worked for a hospital that took Medi-cal. Shifty leeches, the lot of them. Why expand anything for the takers??

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