County Shuts Down In-N-Out In Pleasant Hill Due To Restaurant Not Checking Vaccination Status Of Customers

October 26, 2021 12:15 pm · 282 comments

In-N-Out Burger in Pleasant Hill was completely shut down (drive-thru, indoor dining, indoor takeout) by the Contra Costa County Health Department today after the restaurant refused to check the vaccination status of its customers, a company spokesman confirmed to

The restaurant is expected to reopen tomorrow, according to the employee.

All other In-N-Out locations in Contra Costa County are operating drive-thru and take-out only. No indoor dining is available.

This comes just days after In-N-Out’s San Francisco location was closed for the same reason. In a statement to Fox News regarding the status of the San Francisco restaurant, In-In-Out said “We refuse to become the vaccination police for any government,” and said “Our store properly and clearly posted signage to communicate local vaccination requirements.”

Anonymous October 26, 2021 at 12:23 PM

This is the most un-American thing I can think of. In-N-Out is a great company and takes good care of their people. They pay more than the going wage and offer a career track to everyone.

Contra Costa County Health Department are pathetic fools. I hope Farnitano is proud. What a stooge.

Badge1104 October 26, 2021 at 12:47 PM

I think this may be some kind of orchestrated effort to persecute In-N- Out Burger.
Other Bay Area cities have closed other locations for the same supposed reason. But they don’t seem to be picking on McDonald’s Burger King or Taco Bell.
Is In-N-Out Burger possibly a conservative owned firm that the covid Nazis want to pick on?

Anonymous October 26, 2021 at 1:06 PM

@Badge1104 In-N-Out is definitely conservative. On the inside lip of every soda cup is printed “John 3:16.”

Gabrielle October 26, 2021 at 1:47 PM

Yeah funny how CV-19 is more dangerous only where the mandates are? Wake up and take your freedom back!

Cellophane October 26, 2021 at 4:53 PM

@ Anonymous


Doh October 26, 2021 at 5:47 PM

Anti-vaxers are pathetic fools.

Rico October 26, 2021 at 7:15 PM

The health department was punishing In N Out and setting an example to scare other restaurants. This was a lose-lose-lose move. The employees lost, the customers lost, the city lost (sales tax revenue), and the company lost. The Health Department cost all these entities solely so they could assert their power.

Closing the drive through was purely punitive as it has nothing to do with the “safety” of indoor dining. They’re just being nasty now.

Concord Guy October 26, 2021 at 8:02 PM

If they don’t check vaccination records of their customers as part of their practice of flouting local laws, they’re not a good company. Full stop.

Anonymous October 26, 2021 at 9:57 PM

@Concord Guy – Wrong. It’s not the duty of In-N-Out to enforce local health mandates WRT their customers. If the state wants customers to be checked, they can provide funding for restaurants to hire someone to do it.

Vindex October 26, 2021 at 10:13 PM

Remember the BAAQMD? Those are environmental Nazis. Now we have the CCHS.. the health care Nazis. This is absolutely insane

redrazor October 27, 2021 at 12:15 PM

Recall/Impeach/Fire Farnitano!!!

Wage Slave October 26, 2021 at 12:25 PM

Hope everyone is enjoying their medical tyranny. I bet this heroic move will save hundreds, no thousands of lives. That health inspector can sleep soundly at night knowing that he is a hero doing the lord Fauci’s work. There is no cost too high, no freedom too precious to give up in the name of safety. I plan on turning over my medical records, bank account info, and browser history to the government just on case there is any information they can use to save one life. Actually, they no doubt already have all that, so maybe I can just FOIA myself to make sure.

Why do you want to kill grandma? Why do you hate science. Don’t be a plague rat, do what you are told.

Kandy_Korn October 26, 2021 at 3:43 PM

Oh give me a break. Vaccination is a public health action — everyone must participate or it’s useless. But make it political if you must.

CAtoTX October 26, 2021 at 5:58 PM

@Kamdy_Korn you are delusional if you think that it was anyone but the domocRATS that made COVID political.

Wage Slave October 26, 2021 at 7:20 PM

That’s right, do what you are told. The public health experts have said this is what you have to do to get your freedom back. They only want what is best for you. Just like two weeks slowed the spread, and then we had to wait for the vaccine to get our lives back, wait no we needed 70% vaccinated, wait 98%, and then we didn’t need the masks any more, and then we did, and then how we needed to be “fully vaccinated” to continue to exist in society, and then fully vaccinated became three shots, soon to be four.. The science is ever evolving, and it just always says they need more control over you.

Those red states that aren’t doing most of this are death ridden hell-holes. Everyone is sick there and dying because they don’t follow “the science” like Doc Fauci does. Don’t go there and look yourself, just believe what CNN says. That’d why almost all of the economic growth is happening in red states, and California with 1/12 of the population accounts for 1/4th to 1/3rd of the unemployment, because those Republican Nazis only care about money.

We can just print money forever to pay everyone to stay home forever. Our essential worker underclass-, er, heros I mean, can keep all the food and medical care going and take all the risks so we don’t have to. Unless they don’t want to get the jab, then fire their anti-sciencs butts.

Good obedient citizen, keep doing what you are told, a d we will keep you safe.

graceful October 26, 2021 at 10:23 PM

you must have good crack to smoke..because most the population is looking at you and your kind as the new communist order. Go get your 10th booster next year. You dont think its coming? think again

Led October 27, 2021 at 8:32 AM

Kandy Korn, that depends on the vaccine and the disease. These shots don’t eliminate transmission, so it is always going to circulate to some extent. But the vax does protect quite well against serious illness. So if you got it, chill out and stop looking to run other people’s lives.

80% + of adults and teens in CCC have been vaxxed, and many more will vax their kids now that it is going to be approved for 5-11 year olds. (Whether that is smart is another question.) There’s no public health emergency from Covid anymore here. There’s nothing that justifies vaccine mandates, barring people from public spaces, or any of it. If you want to get vaxxed, get a booster, wear a mask, go for it. But there is no more public health crisis, just bureaucrats who don’t want to give up control

Anon October 26, 2021 at 12:28 PM

What a joke!
Good for In & Out, taking a stand for the little guys who doesn’t get listened too! 💪🏼 🇺🇸

Anonymous October 26, 2021 at 12:30 PM

And if anyone thinks this is about “the science,” why close the drive-thru as well? BK and McDonald’s don’t ask for vaccination status when you use the drive-thru. Why shut it down?

Because it’s about punishment and making an example.

CCC Health is disgusting.

Anonymous October 26, 2021 at 1:26 PM

It is a health violation, If you fail, you are fined and or closed. if they did not want to check vaccine status per the current, hopefully temporary regulations, then why didn’t In-N-Out close their inside seating and just keep the drive through open? They chose to disregard the current state regulations and now In-N-Out and the Franchisees will pay for it.

Anonymous October 26, 2021 at 1:37 PM

@Anonymous The point is as they said: they feel if the state wants the vaccination status checked, the state should do it. The state loves to make local mandates and provide no funding to support them. That’s what California does.

BTW, How long have you posted here? I think I predate you and it would cause less confusion if we had different handles.

Cyn October 26, 2021 at 1:37 PM

No, it’s not a health violation. This has absolutely NOTHING to do with anyone’s health.

Pine Barrens October 26, 2021 at 1:57 PM

Health violation, lol

Shoulda Coulda October 26, 2021 at 2:04 PM


There are no In-N-Out franchises.
The company is privately owned.

greg October 26, 2021 at 12:31 PM

Good. Keeping employees and customers safe should be paramount.

Cyn October 26, 2021 at 1:42 PM

If that’s how you feel, then write a letter to the administration in Washington and ask them to CLOSE THE BORDER. A million people pouring through isn’t keeping anyone safe.

Tsa October 26, 2021 at 3:33 PM

Excellent point…

Rico October 26, 2021 at 6:57 PM

The employees with customer contact have plexiglass barriers and everyone wears masks at the registers. Even the employee who cleans the dining area wears a mask. Studies on where people got COVID have shown that very few can trace their case to a restaurant. They’re getting it from friends and family at small social events where people aren’t wearing masks.

This isn’t about safety. It’s about government overreach and control. We already had the lowest COVID rates in the country before these rules forcing restaurants to become the vaccine police, so it’s not like these rules will make any difference.

PESFG October 26, 2021 at 10:41 PM

@cyn. Immigrants are required by law to show proof of their immigration status when requested by any law enforcement agency but since we are a Sanctuary State law enforcement is forbidden to do so (remember the Kate Steinle case?) and any time there has been an opposition to this law, it has been labeled a violation of civil liberties. Here we are having our rights being violated but those same organizations aren’t crying that what is happening now is a violation of everyone’s civil liberties because Illegal immigrants aren’t required to take the jab, they are being given all the rights of free citizens.

Reasonable October 27, 2021 at 7:55 AM

Easy! Just self identify as an illegal immigrant and you get to pass!

Will October 26, 2021 at 12:31 PM

Brown shirt Nazis. The CoCoCo “health department” should be ashamed of themselves.

Googlar October 26, 2021 at 1:27 PM

Absolutely. The Jewish CDC director, the three Jewish CEOs of three approved vaccine manufacturers, the Jewish vice-president, and the Jewish cabinet are totally exactly like the Nazis.

Sam October 26, 2021 at 1:37 PM

Being Jewish has nothing to do with it. NAZIS come in all different religions and ethnicities.

Key examples: George Soros. Adolf Hitler

I’m Jewish, come at me

Do you have any Jewish friends? Maybe you need some. They can help you with your mid placed logic.

Googlar October 26, 2021 at 7:14 PM

I never claimed that being Jewish has anything to do with being Nazis. I drew a correlation to Communism which you’re both historically ignorant of.

Sancho Panza October 26, 2021 at 12:33 PM

It is time to plan a trip to In-N-Out tomorrow! Kudos to them for standing up to these draconian mandates…

Chuq October 26, 2021 at 2:11 PM

Be sure to bring your vaccination card.

bdml October 26, 2021 at 3:11 PM

Why I won’t be eating inside?

Sancho Panza October 26, 2021 at 3:27 PM

Why, Chuq, they’re not checking…they have the cajones to stand up to these tyrannical mandates!

JG27AD October 26, 2021 at 4:17 PM

Don’t need to show your papers to the Abwher if using take-out or the drive-thru.


Dee October 26, 2021 at 12:34 PM

What TOTAL BS!!!!

bdml October 26, 2021 at 3:14 PM

100% agreed complete BS

Jeff (the other one) October 26, 2021 at 12:43 PM

How pathetic! What are the next level of “papers” we (once free) citizens will need to carry/show in order to go about our everyday lives, to appease our government minders to avoid negative consequences, such as shutting down an eatery. We, as (once free) American citizens should be at liberty to make such decisions, enjoying a simple lunch without the implicit approval of our minders. Putin would look fondly upon us needing to show “papers;” this would take him back to his old days.

Shut down the County October 26, 2021 at 12:45 PM

Maybe we should shut down the county health department. There are more important things that need to enforced. Checking vaccination status is not one of them

bdml October 26, 2021 at 3:15 PM

Now that is a great idea & completely spot on!

anon October 26, 2021 at 12:46 PM


We’ve sabotaged the economy and the future of our young for a virus with a death rate of under .001% for healthy people under 50 years old.

There is no end in sight, there is only a dystopia where you are required to get a booster shot every X months or be cut off from society and forced to starve in the streets. You who took your one or two shots will soon be asked (REQUIRED, COMPELLED, FORCED) to take another, and another, and another.

There is also the fact that In N’ Out is a religious organization, most pointedly a Christian organization. I have no doubt that the woke new-Kommunist politicians and officials who lord over the bay area took enormous pleasure in smiting a Christian company.

I applaud In N Out, this is a company with courage.

Will October 26, 2021 at 1:03 PM

Very well said @anon.

bdml October 26, 2021 at 3:16 PM

Getting a burger tonight to show support! Don’t care if I have to leave the county…

Cellophane October 26, 2021 at 4:54 PM

@ anon


Doh October 26, 2021 at 6:02 PM

Oh you make the death rate sound so mall. The death rate is more than all who were killed on both sides of the Civil War. It is more than the number of Americans killed in WWII and Vietnam combined!
The death rate would be higher but many of us wear masks and get vaccine to prevent further spread.

You future shots argument is ludicrous unless more variants occur because demand their freedumb is more important than their health.

Rico October 26, 2021 at 7:01 PM

It’s not a Christian organization in any way. It is a for profit corporation owned by a Christian family.

Please don’t conflate Christian beliefs with political belief that the government should be so controlling, especially when it isn’t justified. People can have one set of beliefs without the other.

Anon October 26, 2021 at 12:51 PM

Do you mean that they shut down the indoor dining??

Contra Costa Health nazis are a bunch of Fools.


greg October 26, 2021 at 12:56 PM

@Anon – what are ya gonna do? Threaten to get covid?

That’ll show ’em.

Sam October 26, 2021 at 1:14 PM

greg wins internet tough guy today.

Lefties mad at another excellent conservative company. What’s new. 🤣🤣
They fought for years to keep in n out and chick fl a out.

COVID isn’t scary greg. We’ve all had it.

Sancho Panza October 26, 2021 at 1:30 PM

I agree, Anon. The tyrannical policies instituted in Australia are most likely a direct result of Australia’s 1996 National Firearms Agreement ban…we have the Second Amendment: “A well regulated Militia being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.”

Captain Bebops October 26, 2021 at 3:27 PM

@greg, storm the Bastille. We vastly outnumber them. The public should not take these things lying down.

Jp5air October 26, 2021 at 12:52 PM

I’m glad the authorities are so concerned about enforcing laws. I’m sure they will address homeless encampments, shoplifters, and BART fare jumpers next.

PESFG October 26, 2021 at 10:25 PM

They will also be addressing early releasing of convicted criminals, drunk and negligent drivers, drug shooting and defecating on the streets, car break-ins, home invasions, porch pirates, organized retail theft, people being robbed and assaulted while going about their day, shootings.
But hey, let us not worry about any of those issues, why? because Covid is the only thing that could get us killed.

Sam October 26, 2021 at 12:53 PM

Living under NAZI rule now in Contra Costa County. I hope you democrats are happy. I can’t wait for them to deny me food a the grocery store. I will take whatever I want and dare anyone to stop me. Clean up on isle five.

Darwin October 26, 2021 at 1:45 PM

This is what Democrats want a dictatorship. We are sliding into communism/socialism. Hello NAZI Germany. History is starting to repeat itself.

Our freedoms are slowly being eroded! Thanks DemoRats!!! You are dumb and woke to realize it.

I’m not a vaxer or anti-vaxer. I’m about FREEDOM of choice.

What’s the survival rate of Covid again?
Last I checked +99%

Wake up!!!!

Criminals have more rights!!!

Anon October 26, 2021 at 2:46 PM

@darwin, did you really just say Hello NAZI Germany?

I’m actually concerned about your education, were you educated at all? You are comparing regulations implemented to help preserve the health of the public to a tragic point in history where millions of people died for simply being born into a specific group?

Check your privilege, please. There is worse going on in life than you crying about a vaccination card.

Sam October 26, 2021 at 3:10 PM


You do realize we were put in camps and ultimately killed because hitler said we were “unclean and a threat to public health”

It’s definitely you who needs to learn history. This is exactly how the NAZIs in germany did it.


bdml October 26, 2021 at 3:24 PM


He did day NAZI Germany and he is right to make the comparison. I’m sure they could care less about your feigned concern or approval. There is nothing scientific regarding the counties mandate & you know it. They certainly don’t care about your health or anybody else for that matter but keep singing like a good little parrot. You are right there are much worse things to focus on besides your papers right comrade?

Darwin October 26, 2021 at 3:37 PM


Yes I DID.
This is how it starts, little by little your freedoms are taken away. Look at the Chicago police officers, get vaccinated or turn in your badge???
The domino effect is starting.
Have you ever heard of the frog in the pot of boiling water???
Read up on how the Jewish people in WW2 were told nothing would happen to them if they cooperated. Food for thought.

Democrats have lost their way.

Anon appreciate your PRIVILEGE OF FREE SPEECH while you still have it. Last I checked facts are now considered hate speech.

Wake up snowflake.

Cyn October 26, 2021 at 7:05 PM

Do you like having the freedom to post here on Claycord, or anywhere else? Well, SCREW YOUR FREEDOM!!!

Ricardoh October 26, 2021 at 12:54 PM

In and out had the right idea. If the county wanted someone to check for vaccines they should have sent a county person to every restaurant. Not make the restaurants responsible. Not sure if they have the legal right to force restaurants to check something medical. I believe a lawsuit is coming.

bdml October 26, 2021 at 3:25 PM

Hopefully an avalanche of law suits is coming…

JG27AD October 26, 2021 at 4:24 PM

Exactly, Ricardoh!! The county should send trained inspectors to assess the validity of presented papers.
This whole thing has gotten out of hand. Unless you have a comorbidity you have over a 99% chance of surviving the illness. Why continue the panic?

Old Timer October 26, 2021 at 1:01 PM

Vote these officials out of office next time around.You people complain but still keep voting the same crap into office again.Take back our country and make American great again!You have to play by there rules not ours.

Glen223 October 26, 2021 at 1:36 PM

Don’t forget that Mitchoff was the one swearing online (and broadcast over the CCTV channel.

The BOS needs to be replaced NOW! Bunch of Nazis!

Ricardoh October 26, 2021 at 1:05 PM

Me do you get that?
Common benefits at In-N-Out Burger
Benefits information is taken from job posted on Indeed.

Health insurance
Vision insurance
Dental insurance

Retirement plan
Paid time off
Flexible schedule

Sam October 26, 2021 at 1:08 PM

21.00 per hour and full benefits is by far the highest paid fast food workers. What a stupid post.

ManBearPig October 26, 2021 at 1:10 PM

The health officer is welcome to stand outside the business and ask for them. No business shall be the vaccination police questioning the health status of their customers.

Sounds live a civil rights violation. Now only if the ACLU actually cared about rights…

April October 26, 2021 at 1:11 PM

I’m sure it’s no coincidence that they did this today. There have been many posts and flyers around to show support to In N Out starting today through the 28th. I hope In N Out sues.

Anon October 26, 2021 at 1:11 PM

Funny how these “officials” have enacted the same mandates onto the ones who protect them.

It only takes ONE to kick it all off…..

And BTW, No restaurant should be the vaccine police. Bunch of Idiots.

jose October 26, 2021 at 1:12 PM

These same kind of ‘nice caring folks’ shut down Sambo’s near this area a few years ago…….
People like this were taught ‘what to think, not how to think’.

Sandy G October 26, 2021 at 6:36 PM

I’d like to hear the story behind the closing of Sambo’s
My CB Radio club used to meet there and then poof! It was gone.

1791 October 27, 2021 at 8:04 AM

I could be wrong but I think Sambo’s was forced to change the name and after doing so closed about a year later. Seems everyone named Sam was offended…

Kentucky Derby October 26, 2021 at 1:13 PM

They are definitely picking on In -N- Out. I’ve eaten out in CCC at over 15 restaurants since the vaccine mandate check and none of those restaurants asked for proof, and none of them have been closed. That I know of.

Stand your ground In – N – Out. I don’t eat fast food, but I hope your sales skyrocket. You deserve it! Thanks for treating your customers and employees well, and paying your employees higher than other fast food jobs. I loved In – N – Out as a college student in Los Angeles.

Christian values…

amigo October 26, 2021 at 3:48 PM

BJ’s at the mall checks. wife and I went the other night and had to show vax papers if we wanted to eat indoors otherwise we had to dine on the patio while it was raining.

JAFO October 26, 2021 at 1:14 PM

I stopped by the WC Chick-fil-A yesterday for an indoor lunch. I’m fully vaccinated. The store signage was clear as to the mask requirement. I was wearing a mask. I placed my order at the counter AND paid for it. Only then was I asked to show my vaccination card. I did so. It was a slightly awkward conversation for both the server and myself. It made me wonder what would have happened if I didn’t have my card or I had refused to show it…after the transaction had already been completed? Reverse the charge? Retrieve the food order? Both? I recommend that vaccination card requests precede completion of the transaction until this unwieldy and arguably ineffective County Health Department policy. It’s nothing more than window dressing.

Anon October 26, 2021 at 1:48 PM

You obviously are unable to think, had you not had a “vaccine death card”…..they would have advised you to eat outside. SMH!

Chuq October 26, 2021 at 2:21 PM

You would have received the meal to go. Unvaccinated people are allowed to pick up meals for takeout.

I have always been asked before paying at fast food places and before being seated at other places. Bars have asked at the door.

Anonymous October 26, 2021 at 1:16 PM

My daughter’s friend worked at In-N-Out in Pleasant Hill while at College Park HS in 2018. She was making $13/hour part-time. The state minimum wage at that time was $11/hour.

Here’s an article about managers making $160,000/year in 2018.

In-N-Out managers make $160,000 per year (

greg October 26, 2021 at 1:16 PM

@Old Timer: we did – we voted for Newsom and his adherence to covid restrictions because most of the country doesn’t live in Fox Newslandia.

We held an election and took back the WH and senate, based on the premise (in part) that TRump and the GOP did a terrible job managing covid.

Anonymous October 26, 2021 at 1:40 PM

Democrats have perfected voter fraud, I’ll give you that.

Chuq October 26, 2021 at 2:18 PM

Why would there need to be fraud? There are more registered Democrats than Republicans in the county (this is public information) what result did you expect?

Republicans love to create conspiracy theories about voter fraud to console themselves when they lose. I’ve noticed that none of the people complaining that Biden’s victory was fraudulent in certain states believed that the Republican Congress members elected ion those states needed a recount.

bdml October 26, 2021 at 3:29 PM

That’s the only thing that the Dems have down…cheating & voter fraud. If anybody actually believes the numbers put out there I got a great bridge for sale too…

Time to Go October 26, 2021 at 6:06 PM

Too bad Dems could not give Trump the common decency they expect from Republicans. Maybe Dems can clean up their act and learn to accept defeat gracefully next time.

CAtoTX October 26, 2021 at 6:11 PM

@Chuq does Russian collusion, a telephone call, and January 6th sound familiar at all? Of they don’t, they were all conspiracy theories made up by the democRATS to overturn trumps victory his whole presidency.

PESFG October 26, 2021 at 11:02 PM

Mail-in ballots are a problem! People can mail-in their ballots but oops! you voted against a democratic candidate, sorry your ballot got lost, better luck next time.
ID verification should be implemented by checking voter’s citizenship status.

greg October 26, 2021 at 1:18 PM

@Ricodah are you sure the county has no right to impose HEALTH REQUIREMENTS on businesses? Are you SURE about that?

Next time claycord publishes a “Dirty Dining” thread, can’t wait to see all of you insist the county has NO RIGHT to force health standards on a business. Cannot wait to read those posts which will absolutely be coming.

Ricardoh October 26, 2021 at 1:37 PM

No, I am not sure but I bet it is tested. Checking restaurants and checking customers is two different things.

Ricardoh October 26, 2021 at 1:38 PM

Check your spelling meat head.

Anonymous October 26, 2021 at 1:42 PM

@greg – Just as the left cannot meme, they always fail at even the most pathetic attempts at a straw man, as you just failed.

Rico October 26, 2021 at 7:06 PM

I agree that there’s a big difference between a health inspector making sure restaurant staff follow food safety standards and forcing restaurant staff to inspect the papers of their customers.

Graceful October 27, 2021 at 9:09 AM

health dept does not dictate who you can and cannot serve..get in the back of the bus…and be a good little bigot and get in front of the bus and push the unvaxed to the back

JAFO October 26, 2021 at 1:19 PM

“…until this unwieldy and arguably ineffective County Health Department policy IS RESCINDED.” Typo. My bad.

jose October 26, 2021 at 1:20 PM

The burger chain is a ‘socially conservative’ franchise which may be a clue as to what the liberal COCO County heads have in mind,. Look it up…..

greg October 26, 2021 at 1:33 PM

Probably because only “socially conservative” businesses would be dumb enough to endanger their employees and customers like this.

When you can show a “socially liberal” business that also denies vax mandates and doesn’t get closed down, let us know.

Cyn October 26, 2021 at 1:52 PM

That’s right…..employees are vaxed and customers are vaxed, but everyone is in so much danger if they don’t show their personal, private medical information? Greg, you’re not following the science.

bdml October 26, 2021 at 3:30 PM


greg is not the sharpest tool in the shed but he is a tool none the less…

greg October 26, 2021 at 1:22 PM

@Sam – we’re mad because there are covid mandates and restaurants who dont comply are being shut over not following them? Oh…okay? That’s making me mad?

Huh. Can’t wait to see how furious I am at all those anti-vaxxers losing their jobs over not vaccinating.

Sam October 26, 2021 at 1:47 PM

Good luck getting any help that’s not injecting hormone blockers into your kids.

Get ready to pay x10 when you need your car fixed or your plumbing and electrical worked on. That’s if you can find a real man willing to help you. You lefties are useless. Your husband can’t even change lightbulbs or tires. Your gender studies degree will leave you cold and hungry. While I’m eating like a king from all the extra I’m charging little girls like you. Survival of the fittest greg. No mercy.

Anonymous October 26, 2021 at 1:56 PM

Well, if it’s true that up to 25% of truckers will quit rather than be subject to Biden’s COVID vaccine mandate, you may no longer have to worry about brushing off that Cheetos dust from your t-shirt as you post here from your mom’s basement.

bdml October 26, 2021 at 3:37 PM

Nobody furious just doing what’s right for them & not letting a job force a vaccine on you that is ineffective & unsafe. What a low life waiting on other’s misery & says a lot about the individual. But what can you expect from the childish & narcissistic left. What color of Koolaid did you use on your hair this week? Please do tell we are waiting on pins & needles in suspense…

Exit 12A October 26, 2021 at 1:29 PM

I support In-n-Out.

Glen223 October 26, 2021 at 1:34 PM

@me – obviously you don’t know wtf you’re talking about.

Are you still flipping burgers at McDonald’s after 20 years?

Look up the facts before you post something….

Julie October 26, 2021 at 1:39 PM

let them know what you think

Margarita Parker October 26, 2021 at 5:28 PM

Let’s call them.. all together we make the difference.

greg October 26, 2021 at 1:45 PM

@Anon only the big winners believe they lose due to everyone cheating.

SmileWC October 26, 2021 at 1:49 PM

I agree with In-n-Out – it’s enough to post the county’s signs. It should be assumed people abide by the rules. The counties should not demand hard-working young people police this for them. And should not take it out on the restaurants. That is over-reaching at its finest.

Bill October 26, 2021 at 1:50 PM

It seems like most of us are following the rules and regulations. If we all did at the start maybe everything would be open. Get your shot.

bdml October 26, 2021 at 3:39 PM

Stay in your lane Bill & mind your own business. The goal line has been moved so many times that if you believe anything released from our county than that’s on you…

Martinezmike October 26, 2021 at 4:31 PM

That’s what Alec Baldwin said

Mr. T October 26, 2021 at 7:50 PM


You are aware that there has been *more* Covid deaths in 2021 with the vaccine available than in 2020 when there was no vaccine, right?

Things that make you go hmmmm…

Deb Shay October 27, 2021 at 7:59 AM

And your shot, and shot, and shot, and shot….

No thanks.

Led October 27, 2021 at 8:38 AM

Bill, of things aren’t open now, with 80+ percent of the over 12 population vaxxed, when will they be? There’s no off-ramp. The people have to make it clear that states of emergency are temporary. Otherwise nothing will change and you’ll be governed by the health officer indefinitely.

Bill October 27, 2021 at 9:04 AM

@ Mr.T

Tell me how many of those deaths were from unvaccinated people?

Bob October 26, 2021 at 1:52 PM

Would expect nothing less from CCCP County

greg October 26, 2021 at 1:56 PM

“If that’s how you feel, then write a letter to the administration in Washington and ask them to CLOSE THE BORDER. A million people pouring through isn’t keeping anyone safe.”

Or I can vote in Gavin Newsom again, as the vast majority of voters did, in support of policies such as covid mandates.

Two Wheeler October 26, 2021 at 5:37 PM

Your by Gavin also doesn’t support voter ID or secure borders. Is there a COVID test when you enter the USA illegally?

greg October 26, 2021 at 1:59 PM

@Anon the right can’t think. If the state can impose health codes, they can also do so for a pandemic. If you need a refresher, just refer to the 10th Amendment.

Sam October 26, 2021 at 5:23 PM

The constitution is not suspended because of a pandemic.

All mandates are null and void.

I call your 10th amendment and raise you a second.

Let’s Go Greg!

SF oh October 26, 2021 at 2:04 PM

I support In-N-Out!!! Just went to one yesterday. This is total Bullsh*t.

The Wizard October 26, 2021 at 2:04 PM

Don’t forget this crap when’s its time to vote everyone, votes matter…Lets Go Brandon…

inmotion October 26, 2021 at 2:05 PM

How convenient of in-n-out to portray themselves as the victim, the other christian conservative chicken place up the street is still open, so what gives?

Cyn October 26, 2021 at 7:47 PM

My take on this is the opposite. In n Out, and most of the posters here, will not allow themselves to be victims.

Sam October 26, 2021 at 2:09 PM

Everyone should protest in front of In-N-Out.

Protest In-N-Out to open in defiance of the health department. Make them show everyone what they really are. When people see the sheriff department with guns out on teenagers, maybe they will wake up.

greg October 26, 2021 at 3:05 PM

@Sam you want people to go protest a private business to *open* in defiance of state/fed mandates? Why would a sheriff pull a gun on someone who is protesting? I thought when people peacefully protest, it’s cool and no violence will take place? Are…are you suggesting cops might do something VIOLENT to a teenage for reasons other than they’re doing committing a crime of some kind?

1791 October 27, 2021 at 8:17 AM


Remember the CNN reporter standing in front of a burning Minneapolis Police Department and insisting it was a “peaceful protest”?

Define peaceful…

ConcordDad October 26, 2021 at 2:19 PM

People are so predictable on here. Years ago it was all about Private businesses should get to do what they want, then they started doing mask requirements at private businesses and y’all complained. It’s the hypocrisy for me.

Here’s why they are getting “picked on”. Because they decided to make a big deal out of not checking vaccine status. McDonald’s and others are keeping quiet! Who commits a crime and screams at the police that they did it?

So stop with the “attacking religion” “poor conservative” drama! Nice show. They call liberals snowflakes. Lol

bdml October 26, 2021 at 3:41 PM

With a take like that I find it hard to believe that you are a dad…

Cyn October 26, 2021 at 8:10 PM

What do you mean, years ago? It still is about private businesses getting to do what they want, and In n Out doesn’t want to check vax status. They’re not committing crimes and screaming at the police, as you stated. If you deny religion has been and is being attacked, then you’re flat out lying to yourself and others. You sure put a good spin on everything, though.

Sam October 26, 2021 at 9:09 PM

🤣🤣🤣 Gaslighting as usual concord dad. It’s a private business if you don’t like how they operate, you don’t need to use them.

Democrat gaslighters always circle around to the point they get dizzy and delusional. They have such weak minds from being thrown around by their handlers. Always in panic mode until they od or choke on their rainbow toys.

You’re dealing with real bay area OGs here. We know how to handle diversity hires.

Cry more lib

Concord Native October 26, 2021 at 2:25 PM

News Flash ! Attorney John Burris to Represent In n Out …..Double Doubles Matter…

Brett October 26, 2021 at 2:36 PM

I went to in and out Burgers in sparks, Nevada and they didn’t ask either. They just need to leave us alone and let us go to where we want to eat at. They are not our parents to tell us what to do and how to do it.
In short they just want to make money and to ruin our freedom of rights to do anything we want.

The county police of the CCC needs to leave us alone and let us do what we want .

Winnie The Pooh October 26, 2021 at 2:36 PM

JUST BEYOND RIDICULOUS!!! If the customer is wearing a mask what is the big freakin deal!!! 🙄 In and Out is the one losing money 🤦🏼‍♀️

Original G October 26, 2021 at 2:40 PM

Would really like to see this make it to The Supreme Court.

Cyn October 26, 2021 at 8:12 PM

@Original G
Amen, brother!

1791 October 27, 2021 at 8:20 AM

Be careful what you wish for. So-called majority thing not withstanding.

The Fearless Spectator October 26, 2021 at 2:48 PM

Health science has become political science, and Contra Costa County is gulping the kool-aid.

Until the Biden administration closes the border and quits shipping unvaccinated illegals all over the country there will continue to be zero credibility. If Covid is so dangerous, Biden best start protecting those illegals. It’s racist not to……..

Cyn October 26, 2021 at 8:14 PM

@The Fearless Spectator
EXACTLY!!! 100% correct.

Hill October 26, 2021 at 2:49 PM

I have seen people at work get threatened. Said all kinds of cruel stuff and even have been escorted out because the threat of violence was a real possibility. This was just for mask. I wouldn’t want my child having to try in force people to prove they are vaccinated. It’s unrealistic to put people( mostly kids) in this situation.

Trolling the Chuckie October 26, 2021 at 2:55 PM

This is BS and total discrimination against In & Out.

I went into another fast food place within the past few days (just down the street) and was not asked about my status. And they had signs clearly posted that said entry was contingent on providing Vax status.

anon October 27, 2021 at 10:33 AM

It’s likely because In N’ out is a Christian organization, and the entire state is run by godless Neo-Communists who want nothing more than to smite Christianity.

A lesbian trans black coffee cafe would not be treated this way, I would wager my pinky finger.

Rob October 26, 2021 at 2:55 PM

Considering you can spread the virus being vaccinated or not I am glad Small businesses are standing up to the bone head rules the county and state are forcing on us. Tryin to make the businesses decide on business or policy is ridiculous! Good for you In and Out!

greg October 26, 2021 at 3:01 PM

@Original – what will be going to the supreme court?

To anyone else: please define which civil right(s) are violated by mask mandates. “my body, my choice” is fine, but when the state/fed have constitutional authority to take reasonable measures during a pandemic. If you feel these measures aren’t reasonable, you’ll have to show who is being harmed. How your rights are being curtailed.

Cyn October 26, 2021 at 8:17 PM

Greg, the survival rate is what? 99%? So how in the world can you, or anybody else, continue to say these are reasonable measures?

anon October 27, 2021 at 11:02 AM

The death rate simply does not necessitate it.

Furthermore, if mask are to achieve their stated goal, then they should have been respirators, issued in the mail by the guv’ment. If this was REALLY about stopping a respiratory disease.

Respirators, N95 or equivalents, have been available en masse from reliable producers like Korea since say September of last year. Production caught up fast. It has been totally feasible to buy Korean respirators for under $1.00 apiece in practically unlimited quantities and issue them to the taxpayers, yet this is not done by the authorities. HM????

FORCING people to wear masks, while allowing them to wear effectively totally useless ones like bandanas and cloth masks, proves this is about control and forced compliance, not disease prevention.

Abraham Carino October 26, 2021 at 3:13 PM

literally no restaurant checks for covid vaccination

in n out is a W for this

WhoDat Gurl October 26, 2021 at 3:15 PM

Exactly where in the US Constitution does it provide the government with the right and/or authority to make private businesses their vaccine police? I’ll save you the trouble: NO WHERE!

If you choose to get vaccinated &/or vaccinate your children, this is your private medical business. The risk of an adverse event from a vaccine is very small (but not zero). I have a vaccine-injured child, and yet, I had him get a COVID vaccination, for his health, and for those who interact with him.

As it stands, if you are not vaccinated and you get sick from COVID, this is your choice, just as if you chose to smoke cigarettes for 60 years, and then die of lunch cancer. This isn’t rocket science folks.

Those who are choosing to not be vaccinated, are taking their health choice into their own hands. Others who are vaccinated, and are near the unvaccinated, have a very low risk of getting ill from COVID.

Does all of this explain the current situation to y’all now? Any other questions?


Cyn October 26, 2021 at 8:23 PM

Good post, WhoDat Gurl; however, many won’t like it because it has to do with making your own personal choice and not having the government make it for you.

greg October 26, 2021 at 3:16 PM

That’s right…..employees are vaxed and customers are vaxed, but everyone is in so much danger if they don’t show their personal, private medical information? Greg, you’re not following the science.”

Correct. VAccinations have proven to be safe and *effective*. Spread, major sickness, and death are all greatly – GREATLY – reduced due to vaccination. That’s the science. No getting around it. Thus if the fed/state government want to protect the majority of its population from plague, and keep businesses open, they have every right to mandate these things.

YOu’re not giving over personal private medical info. We are currently living in a pandemic, showing proof of vaccination is no different than needing it to send children to school or to travel abroad. I can ask you all day for medical info, you don’t have to give it to me, and you don’t have to shop at my store.

And if a business does not wish to abide by state/fed health regulations, they should be shut down. I don’t want cockroaches nor covid crawling all over my burger.

Time to Go October 26, 2021 at 6:21 PM

Greg – Please go shake Biden’s hand. Hear he is a clean freak these days.

Cyn October 26, 2021 at 8:35 PM

Correct. The Polio vaccine has been proven to be safe and effective, after years and years. But with these new vaccines only being around for a few months, you cannot make that same statement, and may never be able to. And another thing, if someone is showing their vax status upon request, then THEY MOST CERTAINLY ARE GIVING OVER THE PERSONAL PRIVATE MEDICAL INFORMATION.

To Do List October 26, 2021 at 9:13 PM

Cyn is correct. The CDC website discussing the history of polio has: “In 1955, some batches of polio vaccine given to the public contained live polio virus, even though they had passed required safety testing. Over 250 cases of polio were attributed to vaccines produced by one company: Cutter Laboratories. This case, which came to be known as the Cutter Incident, resulted in many cases of paralysis. The vaccine was recalled as soon as cases of polio were detected.”

greg October 26, 2021 at 3:25 PM

“Good luck getting any help that’s not injecting hormone blockers into your kids.

Get ready to pay x10 when you need your car fixed or your plumbing and electrical worked on. That’s if you can find a real man willing to help you. You lefties are useless. Your husband can’t even change lightbulbs or tires. Your gender studies degree will leave you cold and hungry. While I’m eating like a king from all the extra I’m charging little girls like you. Survival of the fittest greg. No mercy.”

@Sam, yeah overcharging people for your plumbing has clearly put you on top of the foodchain, dude. I can’t argue.

Ricardoh October 26, 2021 at 3:28 PM

Been in two restaurant in the last ten minutes. Not one checked anything.

Bob Kazamakis October 26, 2021 at 3:40 PM

Most businesses will submit if they are seriously threatened with being shut down, even temporarily.

I respect the people at In-N-Out who made the decision to have some integrity. Especially since I haven’t seen much of it lately.

Definitely going to go there tomorrow.

WhoDat Gurl October 26, 2021 at 3:51 PM

Exactly where in the US Constitution does it provide the government with the right and/or authority to make private businesses their vaccine police? I’ll save you the trouble: NO WHERE!

If you choose to get vaccinated, this is your private medical business. If you don’t get vaccinated, and you get sick with COVID, you are of little risk of spreading COVID to those who are vaccinated. That’s how vaccines work.

I stand with In n Out!


Marge Parker October 26, 2021 at 5:32 PM

Totally with you!
I will live free or die… I am ready …Who else?

parent October 26, 2021 at 4:03 PM

In and Out for lunch tomorrow, I will be willing to wait in line and then sit inside and chow down. I will even provide a donation to any fines they have received from the Nazi Contra Costa County Health Department. Yes, I am comparing the our health department to the Nazi’s … they both are tyrannical losers.

Surprised you can still post with all the false information provide. If we had FB fact checkers here, you would be booted.

@ Greg (aka internet tough guy)
“Keeping employees and customers safe ..” Hey, if you are scared, don’t go there.
‘Dirty Dining’, there is a difference between finding cockroaches in your food area vs a ‘mandate’.
‘Vote Gavin again’, are you out of your mind? O wait, I have seen your posts, question asked and answered.

Anew October 26, 2021 at 4:04 PM

Even in California, not that many counties are forcing restaurants to be the vaccine police. Contra Costa County is simply more hard left, and more woke than most.

Rico October 26, 2021 at 7:24 PM

Which is weird, because the voters really aren’t hard left on average. Somehow, uninformed/ignorant voters have voted in people who are hard left, who have then appointed people who are hard left.

I do think our County Supervisors are proud of themselves for thinking they’re “leading edge”. They actually think they are leading the way and are better than everybody else.

anon October 27, 2021 at 11:05 AM

This area is full of “classical liberals” who still vote for borderline Marxist leftists, despite the Republican runners always being extremely centrist.

It’ll never change… Well, it will change to 90% democrat voters when the California illegal aliens are granted amnesty.

Anew October 27, 2021 at 11:49 AM

I agree, most Contra Costa citizens are not hard left. Also the county’s track record brings context to this travesty. They recently declared racism a public health emergency, and also ‘misinformation’.

They are tyrants and they are stepping on the public in the midst a very bad political climate.

Tired October 26, 2021 at 4:10 PM

Nothing more than their communist agenda taking our freedom and liberties away from Americans! Protest is in order! Its okay for Newscum to have his wineries open. This is a direct violation of our rights. Anyone interested in forming a peaceful protest? Its time to let our voices be heard!

Worried October 26, 2021 at 4:13 PM

In-N-Out Burger is in the right this is an experimental gene therapy shot it is not FDA approved therefore cannot be mandated to anyone to take you can take it voluntarily and that is it it absolutely cannot be mandated it is illegal to mandate it that’s right the federal government and the states doing it are breaking federal law let that sink in. Oh and by the way masks do not prevent the spread of a virus. None of this nonsense has anything to do with a virus if you still think so you are sadly misinformed

Sam L October 26, 2021 at 4:31 PM

Will end up shutting in-door dining like Frisco site needed to. With the CC mandate, the exit seems to be next year, mean while Florida’s numbers are dropping without any such measures!

Bay Area Expat October 26, 2021 at 4:36 PM

And this is why we moved to El Dorado County, get out of the nazi bay area.

anon voter October 26, 2021 at 4:40 PM

Show medical records for food…

so…why not show ID to vote? this country is lost

Rico October 26, 2021 at 7:21 PM

Yup. Have to show ID and vax card to eat a burger, but no ID to vote. Makes perfect sense in an illogical world.

Concordville October 26, 2021 at 4:54 PM

TOTALLY makes me want to patronize In-N-Out!!!! As soon as I hear they’ve reopened I’m so there. Stay strong In-N-Out.

I am a vaccination believer and in fact recently got my booster. But I am completely against these heavy-handed government mandates. Completely unnecessary esp. when rates continue to decline.

Agree with their attorney’s reasoning that businesses should not be forced to be the vaccination police.

BTW, I’ve been to several restaurants in this county since this order was issued and only ONE (Buffalo Wild Wings) has asked for vaccination card plus id. Had a 17-year old hostess trying to enforce this ridiculous order. (I will not be back to Buffalo Wild Wings until this is over.)

BORbeliever October 26, 2021 at 4:55 PM

The libs in charge of SF and CC county don’t like In-N-Out because the owners of In-N-Out can think for themselves. The libs prefer brain-dead people who do what they are told.

We went to PH In-N-Out last weekend after they got shut down in SF to support them (not that they needed it…drive-thru and inside were packed). Will be back after PH location reopens.

BORbeliever October 26, 2021 at 4:58 PM

Regarding checking for vaccination status, I’ve been to restaurants in Danville and Walnut Creek that did not ask. If we are being fair, why aren’t those places being shut down? Not that I want them to be…good for them for standing up to the health police, but why are some restaurants being singled out?

Also, went to a popular downtown WC restaurant where we were asked for vaccine card and ID. One person in the lobby pointedly ignored the hostess who was checking and she let it go.

Different standards are enforced depending on the establishment’s political views, it would seem.

Rico October 26, 2021 at 7:17 PM

You nailed it.

Cellophane October 26, 2021 at 4:59 PM

I’ll be at In-Out Burgers when they open tomorrow.

I’ll support their stand.

The gullible and ignorant people who support this sort of tyranny need remedial Civics classes.

I label them traitors, one and all.

Mr. T October 26, 2021 at 5:05 PM

How is anyone certain if the card that is shown is real or not? How do you know if the vaccinated person is free of Covid because people can still have and spread Covid with the vaccine? Why is there such a sense of security so many of you seem to have with this card?

Why not take it a step further and just require a rapid test at the door? Would that make you all feel better when you are eating your double-double?

Time to step back and look at the bigger picture of what this is all really turning into. It’s not pretty.

anon October 27, 2021 at 11:08 AM

The fact that a negative test isn’t allowed is extremely disturbing.

Fact: the vaccinated can and do readily spread Covid-19.

Fact: A negative test, if dependable, is obviously preferable to a Vax Pass, since the vaccinated can and do readily spread Covid019

Yet, those with negative test results are excluded from society.

It’s as if this dystopian “Papers, Please” Nazi-style crap wasn’t about controlling the spread of any disease whatsoever.

Clam Bake October 26, 2021 at 5:19 PM

They will be checking us for herpes next – oh whoops // that’s what happened to me – in the form of SHINGLES which was a (reaction) – after being badgered into doing something that didn’t add up to me scientifically – (and I work in software development)). My MD put me into the VAERS – then “retired”

anon October 27, 2021 at 11:09 AM

We’re all feeling the bayonets at our back, pal. I hope your issues are temporary and mild.

SF oh October 26, 2021 at 5:25 PM

PH In-N-Out open tomorrow….. I’ll be there to support them.

Marge Parker October 26, 2021 at 5:34 PM
Let’s call them!! Let’s make their telephone lines collapse.

NoMoreFreeRide October 26, 2021 at 5:47 PM


Gititogether October 26, 2021 at 6:07 PM

Hmmm, an opportunity to add millions to the In-N-Out coffers…

Sam October 26, 2021 at 6:14 PM

My company did over 40 mil last year while you collected unemployment, posted on the internet, colored your hair and figured out how dudes instal tampons.

You have no idea how nice the view is up on my hill.

12GA October 26, 2021 at 9:34 PM

@sam …my kinda guy. It’s imperative that those of us who oppose this BS are unbelievably successful. That we can exist in untouchable industries and offer jobs to those against mandates or otherwise unwilling to compromise their bodies. Right there with you Sam, feels real good taking money from these weak libs. Happy to do it. Happy to use it to build and support strong men and women who feel the same as us. California has no idea the beasts they’re turning us into. They’re developing resilience and grit in us that those who went along with this clown show just won’t know. We’ll probably be doubling revenues next year. Keep it coming Cali. We’re not going anywhere.

Sam October 27, 2021 at 5:49 AM

That’s it. We’ll see who’s really “essential” and it ain’t the dancing tick toc nurses or the rainbow people working the cash register at target. I can tell in 10 seconds who I will charge and who I would help out. These fools want to create two classes of citizens, that’s easy. I’ve been sticking it to these soft handed, limp wristed, no skill having sissy’s all my life. Their wives know what’s up. We lost a whole generation of men and women to this madness. It’s on the few real men left to stand up for the children. Going against the grain and swimming upstream takes strength and fortitude. All these parents out here supporting the marxist scum in schools turning your boys into girls and girls into I don’t know what’s should be ashamed.

hanne jeppesen October 27, 2021 at 9:52 PM

Sam, How do you know what Greg does, and how do we know what you claim is true, most here don’t use their real name, or just a first name so they can claim anything. I use my real name (didn’t realize I had a choice when I signed up) and have been open about where I work, so you all know I’m not a millionaire (my ex husband is, thus if that counts, ha, ha), but I’m doing alright, I have more than one source of income.

nytemuvr October 28, 2021 at 1:48 AM

@hanne jeppesen…I’m sure you’ve heard the phrase “There’s something rotten in Denmark”. It sure applies to what’s going on in our country and all this “Covid Boogeyman” nonsense. Just wondering what Danes say when something smells fishy or things are going on behind your back?….inquisitive minds want to know.

Puffandstuff October 26, 2021 at 6:33 PM

Hope the soy boy health dept. head feels real tough and powerful tonight.
What a joke.
To think my great grandfather fought like hell in WW2 and these pansies are worried about a virus with a 99% survival rate
Keep your masks on all you tough guys
Jeez what’s in the food these days turning men into such wimps?

All the kid’s were feeling normal again hanging out there
But tough guys taking that away too
Not like they haven’t lost enough

Graceful October 26, 2021 at 10:20 PM

MINE DID TOO…. WE ARE DONE..over half the population is applauding this and believing this is good and normal….Its time EVERYONE WAKES UP..and I am not talking WOKE

CountryGal October 26, 2021 at 7:06 PM

!!!!!!!! Everyone should go out in droves to support In-N-Out tomorrow and in the future. !!!!!!!!!!
Send a giant message to the stupid county and these tyrannical, power hungry fools that everyone is allowed to eat inside, regardless of vaccine status.
This segregation needs to stop.
Come by for a burger, fries, a shake, or even an iced tea.
Gift cards are great, too.

We must not let these “health department” fools cancel a good company who pays their workers a generous wage, serves good food, has great customer service, and doesn’t back down from their beliefs.


Lilo Alexander October 26, 2021 at 7:14 PM

Contra Costa County Board of Supervisors along with the Health Department have over stepped their authority and have decided to rule the people in this county under a dictatorship. I am sickened as it looks as if our rights are being taken away on a daily basis. After 2 years of Covid, we are no longer living in a disaster situation. There are more deaths and cases now from Covid than last year, yet the majority are vaccinated. In other words, the vaccine isn’t all that great. Just as the flu vaccine doesn’t stop the flu, the Covid Vaccine won’t stop Covid. Political dictators are the Epidemic at this point and need to be stopped. Hopefully IN and Out will be able to fight this tyranny in a court of law. The sad thing is our tax payer money will be used to fight and protect the Board of Supervisors and the Health Department. Most likely Contra Costa will lose and fines will be paid for by us, the tax payers. It is unfortunate that there will be zero accountability from the Board and Health Department. At this point they own us. They no longer represent the people. They want total submission and control of the peoples lives, and if that means destroying the hand that feeds them, so be it. The time is now to fight back before we no longer can.

Sancho Panza October 27, 2021 at 1:52 PM

You’re correct, Lilo, the Supervisors and Health Department no longer represent the people….they are ‘high’ on their power and do not want to come down! We are all being labeled ‘vocal minority’ at their meetings and accused of spreading misinformation. We may be reaching a point of inflection very soon…

Derrick October 26, 2021 at 7:15 PM

Contra costa county needs to drop the mandates. Not supporting any businesses in the county that mandate vaccines.

Cyn October 26, 2021 at 9:06 PM

As long as our borders are wide open, AND THEY ARE, any stupid mandate, state or federal, should be ignored. American citizens are mandated while illegal aliens are being flown around the states, first class, no questions asked.

Rico October 26, 2021 at 7:16 PM

So what’s next, people who aren’t vaccinated have to wear special armbands to easily identify them?

Lilo Alexander October 26, 2021 at 7:27 PM

The assault on IN and Out Burger by the Health Department and the Board of Supervisors is a step to control the people. They are making an example out of IN and Out to prove to the people that you must listen and obey. This has nothing to do with Health and Safety. Simple revenge for not kissing their asses and an attack on Christianity is what it is all about. It is a well known fact that IN and Out is Christian based. There is no room in this “new world” for God based faith. The only one you should believe is your government as they know what is best for the masses. I can only hope that our courts aren’t in bed with our political dictators and a small part of our Constitution remains.

this_that October 26, 2021 at 7:37 PM

With the horrible french fries they serve, serves them right to be shut down.

nytemuvr October 26, 2021 at 9:28 PM

@this_that…..Yeah, those fresh real potatoes In ‘n Out make their fries from really suck. Give me those frozen, processed, chemical infused fries that the other fast food places make are great!

ENOUGH IS ENOUGH October 26, 2021 at 8:01 PM

Remember, for 1.1 million people, 6 people made a decision to create a vaccine passport mandate AND mask mandate. This was spearheaded by Kim McCarl—-not a doctor nor elected to make this kind of decision. Yep, she’s a communication officer. Dr. Farnitano is not elected either while dictating mandates for a salary of just under a half million. Do you think they have lost a paycheck?

Anonymous October 26, 2021 at 10:20 PM

It is interesting how anyone who worked for the government in any way was automatically an “essential worker” and exempt from the COVID-19 lockdowns and layoffs.

“We’re all in this together. We have to make a sacrifice!”

Says the people who continued to get a government paycheck and sacrificed nothing.

Redrazor October 27, 2021 at 4:42 PM

RECALL/IMPEACH/CANCEL/FIRE Farnitano the Faker. What a BUM.

CB October 26, 2021 at 8:06 PM

We love you in-and-out!! thank you for standing up.

The Fearless Spectator October 26, 2021 at 9:01 PM

Too bad they aren’t publicly traded. Their stock would be cranking tomorrow!

Yoda October 26, 2021 at 9:18 PM

Original G…
There was a ruling by United States Supreme Court…
Jacobson v. Massachusetts, 197 U.S. 11, was a United States Supreme Court case in which the Court upheld the authority of states to enforce compulsory vaccination laws.

Led October 27, 2021 at 8:49 AM

You know what the penalty was in that case? A 5 dollar fine. $155 in today’s dollars.

And the disease was smallpox.

Not really comparable on either score, lol.

But anyway, the state pols don’t have the cojones to enact a mandate. They just want to use private businesses (and schools) to put pressure on people. In-N-Out is right to call them out on that. If you think an actual state mandate is needed, have the guts to enact it legislatively. I’m not holding my breath.

Chris October 26, 2021 at 9:19 PM

Funny how most restaurants and bars we’ve been to haven’t asked to see our family’s vaccination status. Yes, the signs are visible, but most staff and owners know how this works. We all know why the health nazis are targeting In and Out. I sincerely hope someone looks into the Dept.of Public Health like how the IRS poured over and audited conservative returns. Nothing to see here-move along.

Graceful October 26, 2021 at 10:15 PM

Stand Strong against COMMUNISM. Mandate is not law when dictated by a KING. He cannot MAKE IT SO. Laws must be voted on and passed before they can be passed to the people. THIS WHOLE COVID nonsense was mandated from the beginning.., no laws except those extrapolated and past along by local Health Boards. Nothing about this has gone though Parliamentary Procedures..See Australia, China, Look at your Future America. STAND STRONG , They didn’t even impose any of these fictitious laws during the AIDS epidemic…YOU ARE BEING PLAYED

greg October 27, 2021 at 12:43 PM

@Anon – if an establishment states you must be vaccinated to eat there, they have every right to reject anyone who does not show a vaccination card. There is no part of that which would be defined as medical discrimination. You can’t even articulate what you’re talking about, or cite the actual law being violated by asking for vaccination info.

It’s so funny to me how all these right wing arguments over “rights” always involves the logic that the right wing person whining has *all* the rights, and the establishment telling them they can’t bring their plague in has none. Not really how it works.

Gittyup October 27, 2021 at 2:17 PM

Anonymous testing and treatment has always been available for HIV, AIDS, and STDs. Why would Covid-19 be any exception, particularly with the protections afforded by the passage of HIPAA (Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act). Asking a business to check vaccine status is a violation of Federal law I would think.

“Most of us believe that our medical and other health information is private and should be protected, and we want to know who has this information. The Privacy Rule, a Federal law, gives you rights over your health information and sets rules and limits on who can look at and receive your health information. The Privacy Rule applies to all forms of individuals’ protected health information, whether electronic, written, or oral. The Security Rule is a Federal law that requires security for health information in electronic form.”

Graceful October 26, 2021 at 10:18 PM

the 100 year plan..they were patient and now, Parents are labeled terrorists for speaking out against school boards, because the GOVERNMENT has said they have no right to how their children are taught…WAKE UP PEOPLE. The boomers knew this has been coming since their WW2 parents taught them to look out for the agenda over 80 years ago…its here and the LIBERALS own it, but what is sad is generations of people are now thinking this is good…okay, they just recommended a 4th booster folks..WAKE UP

Graceful October 26, 2021 at 10:30 PM

Just be ready to line up at the govt.approved restaurant and store for you issued turkey, and rolls for thanksgiving. And your one weekly loaf of bread. Its coming folks, and you dont even know it.

JL October 26, 2021 at 11:25 PM

It’s sad to see how many people in the comments are blinded by whatever political affiliation (I’m mainly speaking of the right) spews to them. And believe me when I say I’m not a leftist. I was born in the South, raised in the South, and went to l good ole’ USC (the real one, not those Southern California prisses).

Most of you are calling these public health initiatives “communism” because that’s what you’ve heard online and from people you watch on YouTube. If we went back 50 years to the 1970’s, would you call the (military) draft lottery, which was mandatory btw, “communism” too. Even if the purpose was to COMBAT communism?

This isn’t communism. Y’all are letting your fellow Americans die. 750k and counting. I’ve been a republican my entire life, but the way in which Donald Trump has completely demolished what conservatism once stood for and warped it into the right-wing conspiracy machine it is today forced me to do what I never would’ve thought was imaginable. I switched my political affiliation to “Independent” for this last election and never looked back.

Any of y’all commenting in here saying this mandate is un-American needs to take a long look in the mirror and really question your own “American-ness”. I hope that before I die, we right this ship; otherwise the U.S of A is going to continue its downward trajectory to mediocrity.

Sam October 27, 2021 at 5:07 AM

No, mandates are authoritarian decrees issued by a developing communist government.

Exactly who am I letting die? That is 1st grade gaslighting. You better up your game if you want to speak with the adults. You’re just another commie behind a blade of grass out here. You just combined a handful of CNN talking points and think you had an original independent thought.

The “right wing conspiracy machine” has been on point for 30 years. You were never conservative. You were a george bush neocon. The type of conservative who worships war criminals. No thank you. Now you get to be yourself, koolaid hair and all. The lines are drawn and you are a leftist.

The Fearless Spectator October 27, 2021 at 7:57 AM

Perhaps it’s the cherry picking of enforcement that people object to. Watch the policies of Gavin Newsom and it’s quite clear personal gain drives his decisions.

hanne jeppesen October 27, 2021 at 9:48 PM

JL, Excellent post, I’m mostly liberal, but you are the kind of republican I can respect. There have been republican presidents I respected and even liked even though I didn’t agree on many of the issues. Gerald Ford for one, I preferred him over Carter, George W. Bush 41, a total class act, and after Trump Bush 43 looks a lot better, although I was very much against the war in Iraq.

JL October 29, 2021 at 7:34 AM

@Sam You must’ve lost your damn mind. I fought in 2 wars against those commies and you have the nerve to call me one?

Who are you letting die? Go visit a hospital or talk to nurses in metropolitan areas and tell me that everything is hunky dory.

Just to set the record straight on my Republican background; I was born in the Eisenhower era and was a fan of Reagan, so don’t spew your neocon BS.

Lastly, I don’t have cable (the C in CNN if you aren’t aware) and I’ve gotten my news from the same sources since the 80s.

You right-wing nut jobs are despicable and will just be another stain in the fabric of American history. Have a fun life wrapped up in tin-foil hate, kid.

American October 27, 2021 at 12:23 AM

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Puffandstuff October 27, 2021 at 6:59 AM

Nothing new? Seriously? 😐

Cellophane October 27, 2021 at 7:23 AM

We need to stop using the term Vaccine.

The drug being used in the mandate is a gene altering drug.


Graceful October 27, 2021 at 8:25 AM


BORbeliever October 27, 2021 at 9:37 AM

Omg American. How stupid are you?

American October 27, 2021 at 1:57 PM

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CM October 27, 2021 at 1:02 AM

I support In-N-Out 100%!!
Vaccinated people can still get the virus and can still carry it.
Vaccine cards are totally useless. Over 30% of all vaccine cards are invalid, You can buy them anywhere for $100.00.
We’re having In-N-Out for dinner tomorrow!

Randy October 27, 2021 at 6:33 AM

+1 I’ll make it a point to have lunch from them

Revolting October 27, 2021 at 1:45 AM

Vaccinations help. You won’t get the virus full bang, it’s mild version. My parents vaccinated me as a kid. It was never questioned. It was not considered political. You just did it. My sister had polio as a kid. She can’t walk to this day. Wish she could have gotten the vaccination. So many childhood diseases are now gone. My grandkids had their chicken pox vaccinations. And now the hpv for teenagers. Vaccinations are needed.

Led October 27, 2021 at 8:45 AM

If Covid were as dangerous for kids as polio, it wouldn’t be controversial that kids need to get vaxxed for it.

Sam October 27, 2021 at 5:18 AM

Imagine there’s a 99.97% chance you won’t crap your pants, but you’re forced to wear a diaper just in case.

Now imagine you’re to wear these diapers to protect your neighbor from craping his pants.

I owe you nothing. Your mental illness is not my problem.

Cry more libs. Lesco Brandon!!

Anon October 27, 2021 at 8:46 AM

Crapping your pants isn’t the same as dying from a virus you contracted from somebody else. Your analogy sucks.

Sam L October 27, 2021 at 7:36 AM

Reply by In-N-Out takes swipe at sanctuary policies where CA will not require papers of citizenship, but need papers to eat inside 🙂 Also may be a swipe at no ID for voting..

The Fearless Spectator October 27, 2021 at 8:11 AM

Newsom is going to find a way to further screw around with this company. And Contra Costa County will be right there with an assist.

Dude October 27, 2021 at 7:42 AM

Since restaurant vax checks started, I’ve been inside at least 25 restaurants or fast food establishments. Mostly takeout, but a few sit-down. I’ve only been asked for vax proof at one place. None of the others, despite signage stating the obvious, asked for any vax proof at all.

Sam Malone October 27, 2021 at 7:57 AM

I will add my two cents worth.

This is total BS. In and Out has high standards to be employed there. You must have a certain grade point average-good for them. The employees are generally polite and well groomed. How many other places require that? To conservative and to American for the leftists to deal with??????

Just more control that the green-leftist-socialist group who is in power now want. Just look at how inflation has gone out of sight under Joe Bin Lyin in such a short amount of time. This is just the beginning unless we step up and make some changes quickly. This includes our local city council members who will be running again next year to keep on the dole in addition to being paid off by Seeno and God knows who else. No more lifers in any office. Term limits all the way around.

I support IN and OUT.

This apparently dove tails to the effort to support IN and OUT from10-26 to 10-28 to show our support that has been posted on Facebook.

If it opens today and tomorrow you can bet your sweet bippy I be in the drive through line.

These folks that want to trash America best give it some more thought. Trump was not the end to be all but he supported America. We are now the laughing stock of the world. SO SAD!

greg October 27, 2021 at 8:06 AM

“The “right wing conspiracy machine” has been on point for 30 years.”

Riiiight. THat’s why we won the Iraq war, right?. They got Afghanistan right. Hillary is currently in prison. Covid didn’t kill 100’s of 1000’s of Americans. Trickle down economics totally works and has proven time and again to work.

And then we had Donald J Trump: the right wing scream machine’s champion. THe only folks left in the country who can still be conned by a failed real estate huckster from NYC, our friends in the right wing scream machine.

greg October 27, 2021 at 8:09 AM

@Sam L No one cares what In’n’out thinks about politics. They need to follow state/fed mandates or they can shut their doors and go find something new to do with their resources.

This is a republic. We elect folks to legislate and enforce. If In’n’Out prefers a different country, I’m sure they can set up shop somewhere else.

America. Love it or leave it.

Graceful October 27, 2021 at 8:28 AM

You almost had it right…they are on the front line of not following illegal mandates, and in a republic, laws are filtered through a process and passed. KING Biden did not sign anything to dictate a law. There is no official anything except what the local health dept. decrees hand down. Study up on the Parliamentary procedure of how a law is created..or didn’t they touch on that in school with you?

Anon October 27, 2021 at 8:30 AM

greg still cannot grasp the concepts of people having RIGHTS in a Free society.
Cool it with the TDS also.
The majority of us are NOT bound by a party but by the Bill of Rights, Constitution & Common Law.

If you take issue with that, I will buy you a one way ticket to Afghanistan. They’ll gladly have you.

parent October 27, 2021 at 8:39 AM

See Greg
We want to love the OLD America, the one that had values, supported the little guys and was not run by dictators.

If you want a dictatorship, why don’t you MOVE to a place that already has one instead of ruining our republic.

Led October 27, 2021 at 8:44 AM

Nobody elected the county health officer, genius. No legislature decided to keep calling Covid an emergency forever, long after it became a matter of individual risk tolerance. These decisions are being imposed by diktat. The Biden vaccine mandate on large companies was not voted on by anybody – heck, it doesn’t even exist yet because OSHA hasn’t issued any rule. We’re being governed by decrees and press releases. That’s the epitome of a violation of the separation of powers. All justified by a state of emergency, supposedly. With over half the population having acquired immunity and, in the Bay Area, supermajorities who are vaxxed. There’s no emergency anymore. But people have to take the power back. They won’t give it up voluntarily. It’s a lot easier for politicians when they can just say stuff and have it treated as law.

To Do List October 27, 2021 at 9:07 AM

greg: The SF Chronicle says you are wrong and that the Left does care about the politics. They have run multiple stories in the past couple of days about In-N-Out’s politics, discussing their political contributions, LGBTQ issues and whether or not they should be cancelled. Oh, and I used to work in food service a couple of decades ago (have you?) and I could not imagine being forced into a position of being the point person for government surveillance demanding to see people’s papers. That’s not the job they are hired for. The food service workers should demand an application from the government to accept that job and get additional pay for it from the government.

Captain Bebops October 27, 2021 at 10:28 AM

@greg, this is not a left/right issue. It is a humanitarian issue. There are plenty of left leaning people who are appalled by the move of the country to such a totalitarian state. It’s certainly not Democratic Socialism. The pandemic has been politicized, first in an OTT effort to get rid of Trump and now because the “wokies” want to live in a Stalinist state. Maybe they should move to North Korea. 😄

Bobfished October 27, 2021 at 8:21 AM

Joe Biden after talking at the podium coughs into his hand. He then leaves the podium without a mask and begins to shake hands with people gathered there.
And we’re worried about In N Out!

Sideline October 27, 2021 at 8:25 AM

Good job for standing ground on your believes, but at the end, the Government usually wins.
Deny it as much as you want, it IS political.
Bah bah

John October 27, 2021 at 8:31 AM

A government by the “people” and for the “people” requires you… An easy step is to know your city council member and make sure they know your expectations of them and you share their communication with others.

The World Health Organization shows the shots to be unsafe.
If you are wondering why good folks are concerned about the Covid-19 RNA modification shot. Below will make it more straightforward for everyone, and then think other people’s rights to decide that may not include the modified RNA shots in fact the most dangerous medical treatment in all human history. As of October 12th 2021, this is the World Health Organization’s report. Please post the changes in numbers as it increases daily and please share the science.

• Polio Vax – Nearly every adult & child in the world born for 50 years, 121478 Adverse Reactions.

• Mumps Vax – Nearly every adult & child in the world born for 50 years, 710 Adverse Reactions

• Covid-19 Modified RNA Shot – 40% of the world, 18 months, 2,262,130 Adverse Reactions.

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Scroll to the bottom of the page and Accept the terms and conditions.

In the “search for a specific drug by name” box type exactly “Covid-19 vaccine” no quotes. You can also type any disease like “polio vaccine” or other to see the number and all the data. Spell carefully it must be exact.

Graceful October 27, 2021 at 8:34 AM

Be good little commies and go line up for your government approved fast food burger at Micky Dees……they are a good little commie company. They are “loving this”, they now have business again….thank hard about that one

Graceful October 27, 2021 at 9:29 AM

funny thing is, discrimination does not fall in the health dept. laws and rules, they do not dictate who can or cannot go into an establishment….get in the back of the bus you unclean lice ridden individuals, go to Micky Dees…yea

Anonymous October 27, 2021 at 9:29 AM

Fox Business has a story about the Pleasant Hill In-N-Out.

We’re going there today to show support and get lunch.

I imagine the line will be huge!

Graceful October 27, 2021 at 10:06 AM

Since when does the health dept.decree who a business can serve? they close you because of cockroaches, not because you view your clients as cockroaches.fact check this…

Gittyup October 27, 2021 at 1:48 PM

Maybe if they’d get on that cockroach thing they’d have less time to spend on this Covid stuff.

greg October 27, 2021 at 10:16 AM

“You almost had it right…they are on the front line of not following illegal mandates, and in a republic, laws are filtered through a process and passed.”

THe process are elections. We currently have a pandemic. We as a country chose those who favor covid restrictions over those who said i’ts not a big deal. I don’t see where the confusion for you is. YOu can insist something is “illegal” but I dunno what you are basing it on. When you or someone else insists you’re “rights” are being violated, it’s always this weird vague declaration. THere is no right to spread plague.

I’ve asked before, I’ll ask again: define the rights being violated. Show me where the constitution does not allow for federal mandates for public protection. YOu don’t think covid is real? Fine, that’s your belief. The country doesn’t agree. We voted for the folks we agreed with in handling covid. We won.

Gittyup October 27, 2021 at 1:44 PM

@greg The County Health clan are also the people who right off issued detailed instructions on how to have sex during a pandemic. “First things first.” You get a serious hint every now and then at their stunning level of intelligence .

Dr Jellyfinger October 28, 2021 at 7:52 AM

The sex part is easy, it’s picking up women in bars that’s become more difficult.

greg October 27, 2021 at 10:21 AM

“To Do List October 27, 2021 at 9:07 AM
greg: The SF Chronicle says you are wrong and that the Left does care about the politics. They have run multiple stories in the past couple of days about In-N-Out’s politics, discussing their political contributions, LGBTQ issues and whether or not they should be cancelled. Oh, and I used to work in food service a couple of decades ago (have you?)”

Yeah, when I was a kid I was a waiter at a TGIFridays. I had to ask for IDs constantly when folks ordered booze. But hey, good point, restaurant folks NEVER have to check government provided IDs to prove the person sitting there can legally take part in alcohol. The difference is that right wing lunatics want to go to war over everything and insist its a right, so we agree it’s way more dangerous now asking folks for this stuff.

If your argument is that in’n’out was targeted for being a right wing org or whatever, you’d have to show me what you consider a left wing chain that has declared it won’t abide by mandates and is still open. (You’re gonna give me some anecdotal story about being in whatever you consider a “commie fast food chain” (LOLOLOL these terms don’t even have meaning anymore) or whatever and no one asking you for a vaccine card. This will immediately prove you don’t have any examples to give me.)

graceful October 27, 2021 at 11:05 AM

health dept. does not dictate who you can serve….fact check that. otherwise, we need to segregate buses again…something to chew on greg

Anon October 27, 2021 at 12:04 PM

Sorry greg,
But any Public place of business cannot discriminate based on a medical issue.

Did you forget about the Christian owned bakery who refused to make a cake for a gay couple? Look it up.

You are letting your “party” cloud your common sense.
We are not talking about sports here, this is real life.


Glen223 October 27, 2021 at 8:12 PM

Greg- a health “mandate” by a county health “officer” is different than serving alcohol to minors – ever hear of state law? You know, laws passed by the legislature?

I thought not. Go back to TGIFridays.

And by the way – “kids” cannot serve alcohol.

Don’t try to play the expert – on anything. But I kind of expected that from you.

greg October 27, 2021 at 10:48 AM

“And another thing, if someone is showing their vax status upon request, then THEY MOST CERTAINLY ARE GIVING OVER THE PERSONAL PRIVATE MEDICAL INFORMATION.”

Yes, they are choosing to give it. If they don’t wish to give it, they don’t need to use that establishment.

To those asking why this place or that place isn’t being shut down for not checking vaccinations: I’m sure lots of places aren’t. IN’n’Out decided to loudly declare they’re going to stand in defiance of mandates. They said “come at me bros” to the state, and the state said “okay, you know the rules, you’re saying you wont follow them, we shut you down per those rules” And? What happens if you punch a cop in the face? What happens when you wave around gambling winnings in front of an IRS officer? Tell me, what happens?

Those of you who still don’t understand how a republic democracy works: those of us who want covid protectiosn won fed and state elections. IN large part because of the right’s stance on covid. You lost.

Dont wanna show a vax card? Stay home.
Don’t wanna wear a mask? Stay home.

Or next time make a more compelling argument than “The pandemic that killed 700k+ Americans was a hoax that we don’t believe in”

Sancho Panza October 27, 2021 at 2:19 PM

You’re sounding like such an obedient civil servant, greg! Are you employed by the Contra Costa County Health Department? Your statements of imposing secondary consequences–in the form of exclusion from participating in certain activities–is right out of the playbook for justifying these coercive vaccine mandates…

sideline October 27, 2021 at 2:59 PM

Those of you who still don’t understand how a republic democracy works: those of us who want covid protectiosn won fed and state elections. IN large part because of the right’s stance on covid. You lost.

You are sooo wrong on this. Not all of us that “won” wants covid protection such as this one. This is taking it too far.

greg October 27, 2021 at 10:52 AM

“There is no official anything except what the local health dept. decrees hand down. Study up on the Parliamentary procedure of how a law is created..or didn’t they touch on that in school with you?”

“Nobody elected the county health officer, genius. No legislature decided to keep calling Covid an emergency forever, long after it became a matter of individual risk tolerance. ”

Ya’ll don’t know how the 10th Amendment works, do ya? 😉

parent October 27, 2021 at 1:13 PM

You are not a very nice person … are ya? You must be a blast at parties.

The 10th, I have read it.

Have you read the California Emergency Services Act? You should … it might help you out.

A republic democracy, yeah, I am familiar with that as well. I used to live in one till March of 2019 … then Nazi Newsolini took over.

700K Americans, yeah, that is a lot. How many are from COVID … I’ll wait till you get a number FROM covid.

No one is forced to wear a mask .. really? So I cannot shop indoors unless I have a mask on. Or do you just assume everyone is as priveledged as you and has access to the internet, cause not everyone does! Hence why school districts are sending computers and hotspots home. Or did you conveniently forget that?

As for In&Out loudly shunning the health dictatorship order … well two bowling alleys in Contra Costa County have also publically announced that they are not following the indoor mask policy or vaccine check for food orders. But they aren’t shut down … why not?

You like to say, well show it or don’t shop there. Some people do not have the luxury of moving to a new store for numerous reasons … but you dont care, do you, cause you can .. you aren’t impacted.

yeah .. you and ‘Me’, you two make quite the pair.

Gittyup October 27, 2021 at 1:31 PM

Surprisingly, some people seem to think the Constitution is just a list of suggestions.

The Fearless Spectator October 27, 2021 at 11:21 AM

In ‘n Out has many items not officially on the menu, but you can ask for by name. A couple of examples are “animal style”, the “flying Dutchman” etc. Rumor has it they are introducing a new one in honor of Gavin Newsom called “the flying d***head”. It consists of a plain bun spread with Desenex.

OK, feel free to come up with a real one…….perhaps it will stick.

Kristen October 27, 2021 at 12:21 PM

Yet the cold stone creamery is open after being shut down who knows how many times over the past few years because they have cockroaches EVERYWHERE…. But let’s focus on this place not checking a damn vaccine card… smh

greg October 27, 2021 at 12:47 PM

@Cyn: no one is forced to wear a mask. If you are complaining about needing to mask up to walk into a store or restaurant, don’t do it. Order online. You have so many options now. 😉

mike October 27, 2021 at 3:56 PM

@greg – I appreciate your spirited debate. In full transparency, I am covid-recovered and based upon my deep reading of the science personally believe I have broad and durable protection against covid and its variants. I believe the science (particularly out of Israel) that my protection is superior to vaccine-provided protection. So that’s where I am coming from.

On Monday published an article warning of the A.30 variant, noting that the heavily mutated spike protein evades vaccine-induced antibodies with high efficiency. This is the natural progression when viruses encounter a narrow roadblock (e.g., a narrowly designed ‘vaccine’). It is why the original Delta variant so quickly became a variant of concern and in the blink of an eye became the dominant global variant. Delta Plus is being watched carefully as the next potential VOC and A.30 has everyone very nervous.

In this context, when we know with certainty the vaccines do not materially reduce transmission, and we also know the vaccines offer only limited (or no) therapeutic benefit against the naturally evolving variants, does it really make sense to mandate the vaccines (and boosters of the same ineffective vaccines)? In order to work or participate in society? Is it really a public health issue or is something else going on? Maybe the idea of a mandate started as a public health issue, but nature’s train left has left that station.

If you’re still for a mandate, maybe you just don’t yet believe the studies (even if peer reviewed and published in apex journals) or have the time/inclination to read them. That is understandable, it takes a lot of time and in theory that is what our public health officials are supposed to be doing on our behalf. I would imagine there is a tipping point for you, however, when the weight of the evidence is just too great to ignore and your hunch that a government required or “encouraged” mandate for an ineffective vaccine no longer adds up. I appreciate that we want (and need) to trust our health officials at the fed/state/local levels. My question to you is this: can you imagine there is a point, regardless of your political views, when facts on the ground cause you to reject the mandate and in good faith protest in your own way the edicts of the local health officials?

It’s an honest question and not a political question. It touches on your own personal agency and when in your own mind you have the civic responsibility to push back.

Sancho Panza October 28, 2021 at 9:25 AM

Well said! Finally, a voice of reason…

Anonymous October 27, 2021 at 1:20 PM

My wife reported seeing a TV crew at Pleasant Hill In-N-Out at 1:00 PM this afternoon.

Stan Neigh October 27, 2021 at 1:31 PM

Everyone needs to go here:

chuckie the troll October 27, 2021 at 1:42 PM

No regulation without representation!

The Branch Covidians running Kleptofornica are never going to willingly give freedom and autonomy back to the people. You have a permanent “health crisis” and the Democrats do not want it to “go to waste”.

Over here in our free state we had dine-in at Chick-fil-a for lunch yesterday. No mask or coronamania passports required. A few people wear masks, which is their right, just as the majority do not because that is their right. You have no idea how much better we feel being free of tyranny. The Nazi comparison is spot on.

Steve October 27, 2021 at 2:03 PM

Stay open lawyer up vaccination or not medical records are private no body’s business! Does the health department require cooks, servers for TB, AIDS,or hepatitis papers? You have a constitution and a bill of rights use them!

WhoDat Gurl October 27, 2021 at 3:45 PM

Let’s start a list of restaurants who actually REQUIRED a COVID vaccine card / proof of vaccination, to dine indoors. I’ll go first:

Bounty Hunter in WC.

Won’t return.
#Murica 🇺🇸

graceful October 27, 2021 at 4:43 PM

you are either part of the problem (of which case, there is a country south of Florida you will be happier in) or you are part of the well, you know….show up to the restaurant and show your support…

graceful October 27, 2021 at 5:03 PM

go in with active hepatitis or are more than welcome…..enjoy

parent October 27, 2021 at 5:28 PM

Wow Greg

The private business has the right, the argument here is that the private business is NOT BEING GIVEN THE RIGHT. They are being MANDATED to. Is that clear enough for you?

I can go to Solano County, Alameda County, Yolo County etc .. and not deal with the stupidity of our health nazi’s and people like you, and guess what, I DO!

Talk about freedom, no I don’t talk. I act. I will take action to ensure my freedom, and even YOUR freedom is allowed to continue. It is not just talk for me … is it for you?

Enfore laws? These are not laws. They were not passed by a legislature. They are being passed on the California Emergency Services Act. Have you looked that up yet, or are you stuck on your 10th Amendment argument? Or are you unwilling to actually read what we post here so you can learn something?

As for the Bible (capital B as it is a proper noun), yeah I believe in it. I will stand for that as well.

What do you stand for?

Sancho Panza October 27, 2021 at 5:56 PM

@Baby Jane Hudson~
“Ha….all this time we vaccinated and unvaccinated could’ve been friends!”

Anonymous October 27, 2021 at 6:37 PM

@Me You’re trolling. I saw a sign on a window at Pleasant Hill In-N-Out today offering $18/hour starting pay and paying up to $21.50/hour.

Does that sound like the “some of the lowest pay in the fast food industry?”


No wonder you abandoned this thread.

Dr Jellyfinger October 27, 2021 at 8:44 PM

LoL! That always happens. You call them on it & they bail.

Glen223 October 27, 2021 at 8:15 PM

That’s hilarious!!!! The liberals are the ones whining about $hit because their feelings are hurt…. And getting laws changed because of that. Ph, let’s change the words so people don’t get their feelings hurt.

Take your bull$hit and faux outrage to your safe space.

Libs make me puke.

Mike October 29, 2021 at 3:18 PM

@greg: right wing? ok greg. Back to my question and I’ll rephrase: presumably you can imagine there could be a situation where the data overwhelmingly contradicts official policy. Would you object to the policy and not consent, or would you obey because your politics are aligned with the officials?

I just really find it odd that you ridicule as “right wing” people who spend the time and effort to read science, including peer-reviewed science, and make personal choices in good faith. Nature, Cell, the government of Israel are certainly not right-wing organizations.

If you time box your statement “overwhelmingly [the vaccines] work” I fully agree with you. They work for a very short period of time and against the early forms of the virus. Vaccine efficacy has now crashed (boosters were obviously not originally advertised), transmission rates among vaccinated and unvaccinated are now at the same level and the window of being “super effective” is now down to about 3-6 months. No serious (and informed) person is now arguing these points.

Israel, UK and now north-central Europe – countries that rigorously track data, unlike the US – all show a very predictable pattern of cases and death rates. Data scientists are calling it the ‘vaccine happy valley’ where case rates drop for a period of time following mass vaccinations. Unfortunately, that valley is followed by a dramatic spike in cases and death rates. Please look at what Denmark is seeing this week (at 80% vaccination rate) with the health minister now stating that lockdowns are likely. The 7-day average new case rate is spiking to levels not seen since January. This is in a country that just in September decided to drop all coronavirus restrictions “thanks to high vaccination rates” (an NPR headline).

Closer to home we have the state of Florida with what is now the lowest case rate in the country. How is that possible without a high vaccination rate?

You can choose to ignore this information and maintain a personal point of view that mass vaccinations are a net positive, however, you must at least acknowledge that enough information (clearly not outliers, not anecdotal as you state) now exists that a reasonable person – regardless of politics – would question whether a mandate is appropriate.

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