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Today’s question:
QUESTION: This question is for those vaccinated against COVID-19. Will you get a COVID-19 vaccine booster shot when they’re available?
Talk about it….
Of course, Id rather trusts science than deal with COVID and its potential after effects.. My friend got covid and still has lung issues because of it!
Absolutely I agree with scientific advice. I feel very sad for people like members in my family, that refuse vaccines for COVID. I cannot say anything to change their minds. Drives me crazy. So for me, if a booster is available and advised for Pfizer vaccines I will sign up immediately. Delta is no joke.
Yes, I will.
Wondering though, will Newsom give me cash bonus and lottery entrance like he did all the others? (I’m responsible the first time and was not rewarded by the state like the unresponsible people were)
First, the word is irresponsible. We’re you trying to say unresponsive?That word is spelled differently and means something completely different.
Second, What exactly makes those people irresponsible? Especially if they have medical or religious reasons for not getting vaccine?
Yes, definitely!!
@Badge1104, you didn’t miss out on the lottery. If you had already gotten the vaccine when the lottery was announced, you were automatically entered into the lottery.
Nope. No reason for it. Vaccination is one of the reasons for the spread of variants. Keep boosting vaccination, the more rapid a virus will evolve. Since Covid is a zoological virus, it will never be eradicated.
Wow, absolutely none of that was true… Nice job!
Agree. That’s one of the I’m staying away from Zoos!
What are you smoking?
Your choice, but your logic is flawed. Variants are mutations in the virus that occur as it runs unchecked from person to person. The vaccination greatly reduces the opportunity that the virus has to spread, which reduces the number of mutations/variants.
Hey Dr. Google care to explain why vaccination is one of the reasons for the spread of variants and what are zoological viruses?
Nope.
@Paul.Banrs
Show me evidence that is true. I looked everywhere to support that and found nothing. I did find evidence that unvaccinated people spread the virus quicker, increasing the chance of mutations. As for vaccinated people. Those people are able to fight off and kill the virus a lot faster before it hits another host. What you are seeing are Youtube videos. Can you show me where you got that statement? I do want to look into that.
https://www.reuters.com/article/factcheck-vaccine-variants/fact-check-no-evidence-vaccination-efforts-are-causing-new-covid-19-variants-idUSL2N2NL1M2
https://www.healthline.com/health-news/unvaccinated-people-are-increasing-the-chances-for-more-coronavirus-variants-heres-how
https://www.healthline.com/health-news/no-vaccines-do-not-cause-new-sars-cov-2-variants
https://www.umms.org/coronavirus/covid-vaccine/facts/strain
None of that is true.Please don’t spread misinformation.
Firstly, the more people are vaccinated, the less people are infected. The less people are infected, the slower the virus will evolve. That’s how evolution works.
Secondly, vaccines are so effective against viral disease that we have indeed eradicated two major viral diseases, smallpox and rinderpest, and are very close to completely eradicating polio as well.
I’m smoking science. it came from bats to humans…Zoonosis….Read and educate yourselves. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7725765/
Paul first there is no such thing as a zoological disease, however there are zoological gardens.
The article you link talks about it being a zoonotic disease but the authors think that this classification is premature because no animal reservoir for the virus has been identified. They actually suggest it should be classified as an “emerging infectious disease of probable animal origin.”
But in the first place what does this have to do with the discussion here? There are other zoonotic diseases such as for example rabies with well known animal reservoirs. Would you reject a rabies immunization if you would be exposed to rabies?
@Paul Barnes. For my 8th birthday I wanted to go to the zoo, but my sister fell just before we were to leave. So we went to the zoo no sis.
You people should really stop conflating the current crop of MRNA injections with traditional vaccines as they were historically defined up until, Oh, this time last year? A vaccine is traditionally a deactivated virus; this is the kind that exterminated polio.
The current crop of MRNA treatments have various effectiveness. Pfizer is down to under 45%.
The real question is why would you take an experimental rushed through MRNA treatment for a disease which has such an extremely low hospitalization and death rate for anyone under 70? The risks are simply higher than the rewards.
Paul.Banrs: I heard something like that too. This Covid19 is related to colds, influenza and SARS. There is no vaccination for these types of viruses. The Jab, is not a vaccination and in fact encourages mutation. Invaded persons do not pass along mutated renditions of Covid19.
And yes, Covid19 was created in a lab. It leaked out or was allowed to infect the world population unchecked for several months. If not then it certainly IS, political. Fauci and Pelosi ridiculed Our President when he expressed the desire to close our borders. Pelosi giggled and danced through China Town eating restaraunt food to prove how safe it was.
“A zoonosis (plural zoonoses, or zoonotic diseases) is an infectious disease caused by a pathogen (an infectious agent, such as a bacterium, virus, parasite or prion) that has jumped from an animal (usually a vertebrate) to a human. Typically, the first infected human transmits the infectious agent to at least one other human, who, in turn, https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zoonosis others.”
@ anon
“A vaccine is traditionally a deactivated virus”
Maybe want to go back and educate yourself. Here is an for sure incomplete list of vaccines that are not deactivated viruses:
Smallpox is an active virus (cowpox) that gives protection against small pox
Hepatitis B vaccines are recombinant HBV surface antigen
Human Papilloma Virus vaccine Gardasil 9 is a non-infectious recombinant 9-valent vaccine prepared from the purified major capsid (L1) protein of 9 HPV Types
Some Rabies vaccines are recombinant vaccinia virus expressing rabies glycoprotein.
Some of the influenza vaccines are purified subunit vaccines
Shingles vaccine Shingrix is recombinant glycoprotein E.
And all these vaccines have been approved well before this time last year.
@Paul.Banrs
That link didn’t prove anything. That just talks about how it started and how it’s transmitted from animals to humans. Nothing at all about the proof of vaccinations causing different variants.
2nd, There still has been 0 proof it came from bats. Yes it has a higher chance it MIGHT have come from them. But no direct evidence. I am still confused why that link was even posted when it had nothing to do with you saying vaccinations was a reason for spread variants.
@Anon
It may be true for low % in deaths. But if a shot can help that 70% or someone under 70% not end up in the hospital and possible die. Why wouldn’t you take it? Over 50% of the US is fully vaccinated. It has helped so much with people staying out of the hospital. You hear all the time and see so much actual data that the people who weren’t vaccinated end up in ICU and the people who were vaccinated stay home with little to almost no symptoms. Pfizer did drop because of the new variant. All vaccines did. That is just doing to happen with all vaccinates no matter what they are. Look at the flu vaccines. Every year they need to change it because of the mutations. mRNA vaccines have been studied before for flu, Zika, rabies, and cytomegalovirus. So it’s been around for a pretty long time. They went the mRNA cause it was safer this way and can get it out there faster then if they did the normal vaccine route. Without that mRNA, We could have been even shut down a lot longer.
Sure, why not. I am not afraid of the vaccine. I would like it fully FDA approved first …
But I will also support anyone who chooses not to get it.
I have my vaccine, for what I feel is my protection. If someone has a different interpretation of the data, and feels that they do not need a booster or the vaccine, that is THEIR choice. It does not change my protection status.
Now, the big question, will we have to track the booster and show proof of that to get into restaurants, or even hold a job as a teacher, state employee or some of the bigger private companies in San Mateo county who are pushing the agenda ‘No Vaccine = No Job’.
Emergency approval is given after vaccine is proven safe. Full approval comes after study of long term effectiveness. We can’t wait on full approval.
They are saying most likely by Sept they might be full FDA approved which I hope they are. If people don’t want to get them. That is ok. It does slow the process.
I would also get a 3rd shot once the trials show they are safe. It is still early but I don’t see why not. I got both Pfizer.
I think that they will go by the date depending on the company. If too many people at the company complain. I can see them changing the rules and showing proof or giving them a card/ID that proves they have been given 2/3 shots and the dates.
@Idiot
Problem with your statement, not everyone is informed or understands the difference between EUA and FDA approval. EUA does not guarantee that it works without side effects or that it will not be tweaked further or that they will not find something better. We need to keep that in mind.
@ Me
yeah, they keep saying that FDA approval is right around the corner … maybe just 2 weeks to stop the spread … LOL.
Although I can’t fly off to a private island like a privileged billionaire, I can limit my exposure working from home and limiting my interaction with the public without needless gene therapy.
No!!!
Yes!
F yeah! I get all the protection that I can get for it since I don’t know the capability of this virus. It is a newly discovered and already has caused a major damage. If it were a flu, then we would already say it is a flu. If it is like a flu, then we already offer flu vaccine and no need to for big drug companies to invest in research and development to COVID-19. In addition we shouldn’t shut down the country for a typical flu
Absolutely!
Yes but this time I’m holding out for some swag instead of doing the responsible thing and getting one right away
I’ll definitely get a booster once it becomes available. I got my second shot of the Moderna vaccine in late February, so my antibodies have declined a bit. My wife got the Pfizer shot, which a very recent Mayo Clinic study showed becomes significantly less effective over the same time period. She will definitely need a booster, if just to limit her Covid anxiety.
I don’t think it should be a question of availability but rather a question of recommendation. If it was recommended to get a booster shot, sure.
Yes, looking forward to lining up at a super spreader vaccination sight like the Oakland Coliseum. We need to hire thousands of Contact Tracers so we can document the spread from our friends coming over the border…oh, wait…NO!
Nah, I am aware of other protocols to deal “covid” which have been suppressed by big harma.
BTW, you too WILL be labeled as “anti-vaxxer” the moment you decide you do not want anymore boosters.
How’s that for Gaslighting.
Yep.
I am the first in my family to get the COVID-19 “vaccine”. I will be getting my 2nd dose early next week. I figured I will play the experimental mouse & observe how my body reacts from the side effects. So far…I’ve experienced mild fatigue & fever from the 1st dose. Can’t wait to find out what the 2nd dose & the booster shot will do to me.
Yes, my momma didn’t raise no fools!
No, I got natural and shot protection.
Sure… let’s all do a shot!
Yes totally
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I’ll wait and see how much hysteria there is before boosting. But yes, I likely will based on my own decision making… not the government’s mandate.
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What would CA lawmakers do if I didn’t? A tax penalty like Obamacare?
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I will of course review the package insert of the vaccine before making that decision. It appears the FDA is looking for a 3rd shot for immunocompromised, and will/may lump in everybody. Depends on the design of the study that demonstrates the efficacy of the the 3rd dose, and the results, before I do make that decision.
Of course.
Depends…
Yes.
Yes, definitely!!
Only if it’s saline solution!!
definitely
You know you can make $100 for just referring someone to go get the shots?
There is a program offered by the county to pay you for every person you refer who gets the vaccine. Check the website… it’s true!
https://tinyurl.com/2v7aathj
Yes
I have not heard any time-line in which people would need a booster. Within 6 months of your second shot? One year? Once again, no concrete information and changing their tune every week. What happened to all that crap they were dishing out about how effective the vaccine is? Effective for 6’months? Effective until another variant comes along? Pretty hard to have any trust in these “experts”.
Making reliable predictions is difficult. Especially about the future. In any case, the delta variant took over in July and caused the sharp increase in cases that we’re seeing now.
I never got the first shots.
Why would I ever want a booster?
Does it take 85% for full immunity?
(today anyhow?)
I am a proud 15%er.
Then we’ll need a booster for the booster.
The first time vax (J&J) made me sick as $&@?, lost 2 days of work. When does this shee-it end?
Perhaps the vaccines don’t work as good as expected? I’d love to be a fly on the wall when policy decisions are drafted.
Yes, of course I’ll get a booster when the experts who study this stuff say I need one.
Thank you to President Trump for supporting vaccine development and purchasing them in advance to ensure Americans would have access to them.
At this point, it is obviously needed. Don’t want to end up in the hospital like those who don’t get the vaccine at all.
As I and many others predicted early on, the shots will never end nor will the mandates, controls, and trillions being diverted to covid.
Big Brother found their miracle method of controlling us like nothing else could and you better believe they’re gonna run with it until stopped.
Yes, if it means staying healthy.
I & the wife got the vaccines. We are not blind however, to governments across the globe, and especially ours here in the U.S., expanding & solidifying their newfound powers. It’s more power for them/less freedom for us.
No…don’t think its needed.
Yes, I will.
I did not have any side effects from Pfizer vaccine shots, and managed not to catch COVID in the following 7 months, without having to be extra cautious. If booster shot will increase my chances of not contracting the disease, I am taking it.
NOPE. I hear they have a vaccine for the common cold. Right before the next election If we dont take this new vaccine the Dems are going to do more mail in voting for all future elections. Lol
Why would I encourage a booster when it is safer for most to get the now deluted Covid and allow the healthy immune system beat it like any other flu or cold. I believe therapeutics like hydroxichloroquine, vitamin C, zinc, Ivermectin have proven a better method to stave off severe effects.
Funny how your umbrella doesn’t work unless I open mine.