By Tony Hicks – COVID-19 is resurging in Contra Costa County, thanks to the delta variant and about 20 percent of the county’s population over 12 remaining unvaccinated, health officials told the county Board of Supervisors on Tuesday.
Supervisors said they want to explore making vaccination mandatory for county employees after officials said there’s been a new outbreak in county detention facilities. There were 23 infections as of Monday, which county officials expect to grow as test results come back.
“Given that we quarantine everyone who comes into the jail for 10 days, I think it’s a fair assumption that this isn’t inmate-driven,” Supervisor Karen Mitchoff said. “It’s either a visitor or, unfortunately, a deputy or other staff.
“It’s time to get beyond personal beliefs here, other than religious and medical reasons, and get vaccinated,” Mitchoff said.
Dr. Ori Tzvieli, the county’s deputy health officer, said there have been 2,800 new cases countywide in the past two weeks, and four times more hospitalizations this month than in June, when the state reopened.
“And our case rate is now 12.8 new cases per 100,000 (people), which only a week ago was 5.3,” Tzvieli said. “So you can see the rise has been very rapid. This is very different in the vaccinated versus the unvaccinated communities.”
Tzvieli said the case rate last week among unvaccinated residents was 33 per 100,000. The rate among vaccinated people was 5.9.
He said the delta variant is now the dominant strain in Contra Costa County. Of COVID-related deaths in Contra Costa since vaccines have been available, 99.5 percent were unvaccinated.
“We are in the fight against COVID for the long haul,” Tzvieli said. “Vaccines remain the best way to end the pandemic.”
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As long as you’re still using the CDC non-approved PCR test, you’ll continue to have a CASEDEMIC.
Time to get beyond your political agendas and get back to the Constitution & Civil Liberties.
Quarantines are for the sick, Not the Healthy.
My body = My choice
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Anon – ever hear of terms of employment. They can mandate and you can go look for another job
Hope you remember that when other things involving a person’s body comes up.
AMEN TO THAT!!!
My body, my choice. I guess you are pro-choice then?
You say CDC non approved but what will you say once it is? What excuse will there be? You say the Constitution but what you don’t understand about the Constitution is that is waved in a Pandemic. I understand you don’t get that but the Constitution has been rewritten a number of times to go with the updated times.
Well then don’t get a job with the county.
I swear some of you are so dumb. You do know any employer can make a thing like this a condition/term of employment and you either can comply or get another job.
@me
WHAT! The constitution is “waved” in a pandemic?? What type of crack are you smoking? You should be arrested just for your ignorance. The constitution has never been “rewritten” as much as you dems wish it was. If you are talking about amendments, those are additions.
THIS IS TRULY THE MOST INSANE YOU HAVE EVER POSTED. AND YOU HAVE POSTED A LOT OF INSANITY.
THE CONSTITUTION IS AND ALWAYS HAS BEEN IN FULL EFFECT. ITS JUST BEEN VIOLATED BY TYRANTS DURING COVID HOAX 19. This poster is 1 million percent wrong an all accounts.
Sam – people like you need to look up the definition of “rights” in a dictionary. The Constitution used an erroneous word. It should be “privileges” as a right can never be taken away. Everything , yes EVERYTHING in the Constitution can be taken away for bad behavior. Therefore we have privileges, not rights
XJ – Astro-turf much? Monger fear much? CIA?
Tell us, What ER did you just leave?
And being so busy there, or “crushed” as you say, how did you have time to take poll of all of the admits to see who was vaxxed?
If the vast majority of the county is vaxxed and the 99 percent in the hospital are unvaxxed, then how could the ER be so filled.
Both can’t be true. But you already knew that.
@well folks
WRONG. I am a free sovereign man. I have rights under common law. The constitution isn’t just a suggestion. It’s the law of the land. We’re not gonna discuss what YOU think the constitution should have said. Your opinions don’t mean anything to me. Cry more lib
@xj
Waz up dog
@Well Folks Conditions or “terms” of employment apply at the hiring level of employment when the hiring authority has the ability to set the terms of employment. Considering the fact that the majority of job classifications with Contra Costa County are under the Agency Shop umbrella (thanks Board of Supes) a meet and confer with the unions is required in order to change the terms of employment for existing employees. (PS I’m vaccinated so it wouldn’t affect me personally)
Almost Famous,
I worked for the county for 32 years and was a union rep for 15 years. “Meet & Confer” in Contra Costa equals “we are telling you we are doing this” and that’s how it goes.
FYI – the unions are desperately needed in the county as they have a way of giving workers 2% raises while giving upper management 20% and the BoS 30% – 60%. And to this day that kind of garbage still goes on as the whiny tax payers pay very little attention to what is really going on and when told they don’t want to listen
Karen strikes again …
Taking the vaccine is a PERSONAL choice!
Yes, and she went on to say, “your personal choice (to not get vaccinated) is affecting my health”…
All the Supervisors are on board with ‘moving towards mandatory vacinations’—it appears the carrots are being put away and the sticks are out and being sharpened for punitive relationships with their constituents.
Personal choice applies to many things like who we marry etc. Remember that too
We’re moving into interesting times. Seems odd to possibly mandate both vaccination and masking. Does it mean these mRNA jabs more therapeutic than an actual vaccination? Looks like we can’t make that decision ourselves?
I have a feeling that many will ask Mitchoff to F-off….
Waiting for all the lawsuits 🙂
How will they determine what is a “sincerely held religious belief?”
We’ll find out sooner rather than later whether freedom of religion will be protected by the courts.
Remember when she wanted to, and I quote, “Bring the hammer down on small businesses throughout our county”?
What a piece of work. How in the world does she get elected?
Larry
More importantly, how can we get her removed from office?
Ronald Reagan said it best,
“The best minds are not in government. If any were, business would steal them away. “
Mitchoff Says “It’s Time To Get Beyond Personal Beliefs And Get Vaccinated”.
What a totally stupid comment to make!
Mitchoff you are a dumbass in the first degree to say that. So now a person’s beliefs don’t mean a damn thing to the government apparently.
I have quite a few friends that work for CCHS and they basically told their dept managers to shove it they can’t make anyone get the vaccine.
Hmmmmm I retired from CCHSD and every one I know (and that’s close to 2000 of the employees) have been vaccinated. You must know those in house keeping or other non-degree positions
Literally know almost everyone at CCHS and no one important retired recently to make this type of statement. And to add that little jab at the end was in poor taste. Maybe you were the one in the house keeping position?
It’s time to get beyond personal beliefs here
so now freedom of religion is gone
freedom of the press is gone
freedom of speech is gone
well done voters
well done
Science wins over talking points. Even Hannity and Trump said get vaccinated.
HMMMM…
So, the southern border is wide open for ANYONE to come in to the Country unchecked, untested, and unvaccinated. Then the biden administration flys or busses (distributes) them throughout the entire Country at taxpay
er expense. Obviously spreading the CCP virus as they go. But county employees are being punished for this by FORCING the test trial “vaccine” on them and then being told to suck it up by a hack county supervisor who is out of touch with the real world.
Citizens need to stand up to this tyranny NOW!
Time to break out the torches and pitchforks!
Mitchoff said it herself – religious beliefs and medical issues are considered legit reasons to avoid vaccination.
“It’s time to get beyond personal beliefs here, other than religious and medical reasons, and get vaccinated,” Mitchoff said.
I have religious beliefs that preclude me from getting the vaccine.
It’s called freedom of choice.
That’s a G-d given freedom, not a government allocation.
I believe Michoff is a communist.
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At this point it’s a personal choice to receive the vaccine or not.
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…. Pro-choice!
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If you don’t want a vaccine, don’t get one.
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So the lawsuits will be happening sooner rather than later
Great news!
Meanwhile the millions of unvaccinated “targets of discrimination” can plan for their vote to get rid of Newsom on Sep 14
Once the 20% unvaccinated get sick and recover, what will be the next scare tactic?
Why are these higher ups trying to force the vaccines on us? If you don’t want to get vaccinated and you choose not to wear a mask then let those people chose to do so. Why are they trying so hard to save people?! Let Darwin do his thing. Too many damn people on this earth anyways!
Do you work for the county? This is about county employees not private sector employees. Why are getting so unglued if you don’t work for the county?
Yes, get the vaccine that you still need to wear a mask, that you can still get Covid, that could give you heart problems, blood clots (big list, I’ll save it) and is nothing more than the biggest human experimental drug rollout in the history of mankind. Not to mention the weirdness of paying people, lottery giveaways etc. All this is just like something from a very bad science fiction novel.
Hard pass.
How can you mandate an experimental vaccine that’s not even FDA approved? Totally unconstitutional!!!!
Actually it is not “unconstitutional” as there is absolutely nothing, zero, zip, nada about a situation like this in the Constitution. In reality the this entire country and most of the laws that people follow are “unconstitutional”. Make people were clothes and shoes is “unconstitutional”, make people have a license to drive is “unconstitutional” Most things are “unconstitutional” is anyone follows your logic
@well folks
It violates the Nuremberg code created in response to the NAZI medical experiments on Jews. You need to stop spreading misinformation. The vaccine is not approved. You are pushing NAZI propaganda. There are cures so it will never be approved. It will probably be revoked like the PCR test used to shut down the world.
Sam – WTH are you smoking? I had family that lived under Nazi occupation and Soviet occupation as well. There is no “Nazi” agenda going on
Go get some help as you have a sever mental disorder and while you are at get a real education that starts with critical thinking and advance science. It’s obvious whatever school system and college you attended let you down
And the difference between a vaccine that the FDA has fully approved and one that has undergone EUA?
https://vaccine.unchealthcare.org/science/vaccine-approval/whats-the-difference-between-fda-emergency-use-authorization-and-fda-approval/
That’s exactly what a nazi would say. You’re not smarter then me and your opinions mean nothing.
Sam, although I agree with you completely on the Covid LIE and most other issues, too, PLEASE educate yourself on the ‘nazi’ nonsense you and others on this blog constantly and incorrectly cite. Start with duckduckgo and type in the following: http://www.theholocaustdeprogrammingcourse.com or .org and learn the truth. I am 100% Jewish and our entire so-called history regarding WWI, WWII, the holocaust and regarding the nazi crap regurgitated ad nauseam on the news, by politicians and on The History Channel nothing but propaganda just like Covid and the 1918 Spanish Flu too! Do some needed research, PLEASE! Apso, look up: Gerard Menuhin’s banned book: Tell the Truth and Shame the Devil. Another Jewish man just like all the good gentile men being censored for simply telling the TRUTH!
We’re 100% mishpacha so I’ll be nice. I know where you’re going with this as I have heard different views from both sides of my German Jewish family. I’m not into the whole denial thing. Though I do recognize some inconsistencies. It’s not my place. My points are solid in relation to the Nuremberg code and it’s (stated) reasons. Regardless of the situations in the past, the way some posters here think they are entitled to tell me what to do when it comes to my own health is remarkable. The level of propaganda in the media has reached heights most here can’t comprehend. I have used this comparison as it is relatable to the broad population I speak to. You are welcome to your opinions as I am mine. Watching what is now happening here should cause you to reevaluate your revisionism.
I don’t believe that the religious exemption will last very long.
This government doesn’t believe in religious freedom.
The medical exemption?
I read a Dr.’s commentary that said even if the vaccine would put a person into Anaphylacticic shock, it’s worth the risk.
Come on people, aren’t you tired of stepping over all the dead bodies in the streets and dodging them on the highways? For God’s sake get your shots!……….
What are the ages of this so called “surge”?
Co Co County Does Not keep statistics of Flu deaths of those over 65 yrs old.
Proof:
“Flu tallies don’t include victims over 65, like two brothers found deceased in a camper in Moraga last month. The Contra Costa County coroner now says they died of “natural causes” and both had influenza in their systems”.
Guess who doesn’t have to be vaccinated to keep their jobs? Teachers!! After the teachers union shut down our schools and subjected our children to isolation they refused to have a mandatory vaccination policy, stating that they had no legal authority to do it. How have we allowed the teachers union to have so much power? What does the teachers union have on all these politicians that go lockstep with the union leaders. Mandatory masks for our students is what I feel and abuse of power. If the teachers are so damn worried about catching Covid that they disrupt our children’s social skills growth that they shut down the whole system they should have to be vaccinated! All these teachers whined about not having to be subjected to death by simply doing their jobs and now they won’t get the shot? Double standard crap! The same people who have more control of their workspace, the classroom, than any other profession, let’s just say Safeway worker or or restaurant worker telling us they should not be forced is lunacy. I don’t believe anyone should be forced to have the shot, but those who shut down our whole children’s world have for sake in their right to choose! I know the same teachers who didn’t want to be in a classroom with children we’re not huddling at home all alone, they were out at Safeway, restaurants. Hypocrite piss me off
The damage the teachers and their union are inflicting on the children of this state is allowed by the parents .The parents have the power to save our schools and get them back on a logical path but they are to lazy to go to the school board meetings and demand what’s right for their kids . Most parents just don’t care or they are just to busy trying to put food on the table in this state .
Good move should the county go forward with this requirement. This isn’t a “personal choice” issue. We are in a public health crisis that is being prolonged by the anti vaxxers and the anti maskers. Any employer should have the option of requiring their employees to be vaccinated.
It is also my view that domestic US Airlines should require all passengers to be vaccinated. Flying is not a right.
Anyone dare blaming the uptick of cases on the unvaccinated, sorry to say, but the CDC is once again LYING about the vaccine. Today the head of the CDC came out and said that break through cases were “rare.” Not sure what their definition of “rare” is but my mother, fully vaccinated since April attended a gathering the weekend of the 17th with multiple fully vaccinated people. She got covid along with at least 5 other fully vaccinated, there may be more as she hasn’t confirmed with a few others. Now that is one gathering on one day. That’s not rare! Also, 5 of 50 or so fully vaccinated TX Democrat congress members that fled to DC together also tested positive and passed a Pelosi staffer and a few others. So, everyone really needs to stop pointing fingers. Another interesting aspect is making this all about cases. I thought it was about preventing deaths and hospitals being overwhelmed. Once again the FEDS are moving the goal posts. I am curious as to when people will stand up and take back their rights. I think many have forgotten that our freedoms, as Americans, are not given to us by the Government, they are given by God.
You think forcing people to take a medical treatment is the way to go “concord guy”?
Guess what, you should read the nuremberg code. You are on the same side of the argument as NAZI’s. How does that feel? You are literally siding with the NAZI’s on this topic. Last I checked, Americans destroyed NAZI’s. All so you could have you stupid, meaningless opinion. You’re welcome.
PS: I’m an anti masker, and apparently a “anti vaxer“. What are you gonna do about it? I’ll be right next to you at the store or the park. I dare you to say something. You won’t.
Well Sam good luck with the hospital bill as I bet you are “anti insurance” as well.
And some of you that are not vaccinated need to look at the fine print on your health insurance. You don’t want to learn the hard way that if you refuse the vaccination they may not cover cost of hospitalization from a future case of Covid
@Savagette,
You can go to the county health department website and see for yourself who is responsible for the uptick in cases. It is the unvaccinated. The CDC is not lying.
Additionally, the vaccine is not 100% effective in preventing covid, but significantly reduces your chance of getting it as well as keeping you from hospitalization and death. No vaccine is 100% effective.
The Delta variant is more transmissible in both unvaccinated and vaccinated than the original strain because people carry 1,000 times higher viral loads. The Delta variant is now the predominant strain here.
@well folks
Wow, look at you go. Fear mongering and insulting low income people. You spread so much propaganda it’s sickening. “oh your insurance won’t cover you if you don’t get the shot🤣🤣🤣 No scruples, none whatsoever. Shame
@DLo
Thanks for the tip. My point is breakthrough cases are not rare as was said by the Director of the CDC. So, moron, if vaccinated people can still get and transmit the virus how is it the uptick in cases from the unvaccinated?
Aristotle makes the case in Plato’s Criton that we are subject to the rule of the state, the state provides for the institutions and infrastructure that allow our parents to meet, give birth to us, and raise us. He makes the case that the state has given us our life, and has the right to ask us to die for its benefit. He says this just before being executed on trumped up charges, unwilling to leave his precious Athens to escape.
I was fully Pfizered by the end of March, and have enjoyed the drop in COVID cases I was part of until the recent 𝛿 variant. A vaccine is the way out this COVID problem, but any state-actors should wait until after the FDA has fully approved one or more of them. Mandating an emergency use authorization (EUA) drug that the appropriate governing body has not fully approved is clearly inappropriate. This is the part that is inappropriate.
I will take my mRNA with my GMO. God bless!
Could this Mitchoff person be any more out of touch?
Mandate Vaccines for county employees but not for inmates, because she knows they aren’t the cause. In technical terms, this is what’s referred to as “A Mental Nose Job”. You can’t reason with someone of this ilk.
It’s time for her to get beyond her personal belief that she’s helping.
Fix the pot holes.
Oh Karen,
How many of the 23 were vaccinated?
Shouldn’t every inmate get vaccinated too?
Hahaha
“It’s time to get beyond personal beliefs here, other than religious and medical reasons, and get vaccinated,” Mitchoff said.
I like that.
I’m a bit confused though because wouldn’t that statement be your personal belief? And aren’t we supposed to “get beyond personal beliefs”.
Can’t wait to hear you “justify” the double standard.
We must all vaccinate
Since vaccine delivery began last December, over 99% of ALL covid-19 deaths have been unvaccinated people in Contra Costa. Per the CCCHS website.
If you are older than age 50 and are not vaccinated yet you are one of the very few still at risk. Get vaccinated.
-Always Right, You’ve made a great argument for why a vaccine mandate is pointless.
If 99 percent of people who die from Covid are not vaccinated, then unvaccinated people are not effecting those who are vaccinated.
Rather those that choose to remain unvaccinated are only effecting themselves. In a free society, this is each individual’s right.
You do want society to stay free, right?
Yoyo Hop
We do not live in a “free society” as long as there are laws, rules and regulations and one small group of people running things it is not a “free society”. There is actually no such thing as a “free society”
Why are so many of you getting your fat panties in a wad? Do all of you work for the county? If not this is really not your concern as Mitchoffs statements are aimed at county employees. And before it can happen ALL the unions will have to agree to it. County employees are covered by union contracts and everything needs the unions approval. EVERYTHING
And shame on Claycord for once again putting something out that concerns so very few of its readers.
It’s reasonable for citizens to be informed we have such boorish, arrogant, condescending, power-drunk elected officials. This will be helpful at election time.
Fearless
And yet they same get reelected regardless
Here’s my 2,000 mile away view of this issue. I got vaccinated, as did my entire family. Having had an aunt contract polio and eventually graduate from an iron lung to a wheel chair, I know what not being vaccinated can mean (she got it a few years before the polio vaccine was produced).
I hate mandates, and whenever you force people to do something, there will be resistance. I would rather reward good behavior. I wish the Mitchoffs of this world could understand that.
Making people wear a mask even after they have been vaccinated sends a horrible message and reinforces the belief that there is no point in getting vaccinated. We need someone from Mad Men to take over the messaging of this campaign.
Its not an infection its a cold a runny nose, maybe a fever… but you have a 99.9% chance at surviving your cold what a joke.
There is no “Emergency” for the need to distribute a “vaccine”
If your scared stay home. There will always be something that will kill you…
car accident, heart attack, your spouse, no one lives forever.
The point is no one should be forced to get the vaccine or get let go from their job. That whole idea is a crock.
If people don’t want to work around unvaccinated people maybe they should quit and stay at home or keep your damn masks on permanatly everywhere yo go.
If people wanted total govt control they’d move to a communist country and don’t let the door smack your ass on the way out.
Luckily I’m retired still fairly young and dont really have a horse in this race but I swear there are more donkey asses in this race and argument than I’ve ever seen before.
Last time I checked USA is still a free country and no one is gonna make me wear a mask no matter if I’m vaccinated or not.
My body my choice anyone who objects can kiss my unmasked face..
Bdpirate
So people should not be mandate to do anything. Well then that means we don’t have to wear clothing in public or shoes as that too is a mandate. Or use seat belt while driving as that is a mandate. We should be able to have sex in public as well.
The USA is not a “free country” as long as there are rules, law and regulations a country is not free. As long as there is military, police and a governing body the country is not free. If anything you and others here have bought the “American” propaganda. Get a clue America is nothing more than a plot of land run by a 2 party dictatorship.
@Well
Stick it in your ear..your thinking is right in line to a permanent trip to Russia, Cuba or Venezuela.
You’ll fit right in..
Bdpirate
just keep waving your little flag. You and other spoiled entitled people will be the the reason this country falls. Take a good look around the world there is a reason the average citizen in western Europe, Japan and S Korea, which are all educated and prospering look at us and laugh. The pandemic has shown Americans for what they really are. Spoiled, entitled brats
Watch out for the immunity debt!
CDC will insist we all mask up again & hope we get upset enough to begin intimidating everyone into getting vaccinated.
In other words play us against each other to force everyone to get the shots…. people are fed up with masking.
Already some businesses are banning people from entering unless they have been vaccinated and are carrying a card to prove it.
Unvaccinated people will soon become targets for violence and who will be blamed?
Personally I think anyone who hasn’t gotten the vaccine is an idiot and there is trouble on the horrizon for them…. I don’t advocate violence or intimidation, I do not approve of it, but it’s coming.
Dr J – You say you don’t advocate violence. But dehumanizing a group of people is always a precondition for doing violence against that group.
Calling unvaccinated people “idiots” and implying that they are to blame for the mask mandate is certainly a move toward dehumanization.
So while you’re not advocating violence, you’re certainly helping to make it possible.
@ Yoyo ~ It’s a pandemic….refusing to accept a free vaccine that has been proven to be effective against catching the virus and stopping the spread of the virus is, in a word… idiotic!
I merely pointed that out & you just provided an example.
People are often, idiotic….
That is not “dehumanizing”
That is very “Human”
Dr J – What’s idiotic is thinking that the vaccine is free. Just because you don’t give them money at doctor’s office, it doesn’t mean that the taxpayers aren’t funding this nonsense.
What’s idiotic is thinking that the vaccine has been proven effective. How many recalls and pauses of the various vaccines have we seen? And now Pfizer is suggesting a booster shot because the original dosage becomes ineffective after several months.
If the vaccine is “proven” to stop the disease, then why do I need to get it?
Don’t listen to her or anything politicians say. Look at the data, then go get a shot.
GREAT! It’s about time. Thank you.
Mitchoff is more likely afraid of the new “freedom” variant. 😀
I think those of you that are proponents of prolonging the pandemic by choosing or believing others have a choice to not get vaccinated might be surprised to find out that your rights under the constitution are not absolute. The supreme court upheld vaccine mandates in 1905 in Jacobson v. Massachusetts. The same law was used to justify mask mandates and stay at home orders.
Additionally, employers are responsible for safe work environments and can mandate vaccines as a condition of employment. The courts upheld the UC flu vaccine mandate last fall and Indiana University recently prevailed in their covid vaccine mandate.
Really, DLo? This is a virus that you have a more than a 99% chance of surviving. Why should those of us who have been careful with our health, have healthy immune systems be penalized? That’s a Harrison Bergeron approach. Medical patents expert Dr. David Martin says that the vaccine patents show there really is no virus, so Sam is right. To be clear people can do what they want but those who stand on their healthy past and strong immune system deserve rewards for their efforts. Supposing as thought the virus was so prevalent over the past year it is most likely even the healthy got it and it did nothing or give them a brief light sore throat. More troublesome is the toxic smoke we had in this area which can damage people’s hearts even when healthy.
And here’s the thing, it’s been mentioned that the CDC is sunsetting the PCR tests because there are now better technologies. I suspect that one might be Mologic’s $1 antibody test. That’s the company that Gates and Soros bought last week. Seems that if you get that test and it shows you have antibodies and yet are not vaccinated why would you bother with the vaccine? But I’m sure they’ll come up with some lame excuse though.
@Captain Bebops,
Sam peddles conspiracy theories and so do you. Dr David Martin (if he is one) claims have been fact checked as false. People with healthy immune systems still get Covid.
@Captain Bebops
you and Sam are clearly not understanding the recent announcement by the CDC to withdraw the EUA for its original Covid PCR test. There is nothing wrong with the test. Below is a good explanation of what that announcement really means.
https://tinyurl.com/m75acsra
And no the PCR test will for sure not be replaced by an antibody test. An antibody test would not tell you that you have (and potentially shed) SARS-CoV-2 virus. An antibody test would only tell you that at some time prior you had been infected with the virus. But by the time you would have developed antibodies it would be very unlikely that you would still shed virus and would need to isolate.
Also an antibody test will give you very little information about the quality of the antibodies you have. So you may or maybe not protected from further infection. There is some evidence showing that vaccination gives you better quality antibodies compared to infection.
The time between conspiracy theories becoming conspiracy facts is currently around 3 months. That’s down from the 6 months since the beginning of the COVID HOAX. Prior to that it was years. More and more they are outright telling you what they are doing. The term conspiracy theory will be gone soon. You will have nothing but the naked truth staring back at you. I hope you’re ready for what’s to come.
Where did you find Dr. David Martin’s fact check?
Captain Bebops
Here you go:
https://tinyurl.com/sdbz2bp7
https://tinyurl.com/rd73e9ee
https://tinyurl.com/btn632u2
LOL! All corporate sources and mainly just name calling. Anyone can call someone a conspiracy theorist but it means squat. Now if you have lead self help organizations you are also suspect? Give me a break. You’re counting on the peanut gallery to cower. Childish adolescent thinking. Must be the vax working on your brain. 😀
– JWB – No there is nothing wrong with the PCR test. EXCEPT, as its inventor Kary Mullis said, “with a PCR, if you do it well, you can find almost anything in anybody.”
@Yoyo Hop
Of course PCR is very sensitive and if you do it right you can find almost anything. Doesn’t that imply you can find almost anything IF it was there in the first place?
Do you know how many convictions are based on forensic PCR analysis. If that statement meant what you thinks it means, how come anybody could ever be convicted based on PCR evidence?
-JWB A false analogy is what you are presenting. Convictions based on PCR tests are not similar to Covid diagnoses based on the same tests.
People are not convicted simply because a PCR test finds a match. Rather they are convicted because of a set of circumstances corresponds to the crime, often there are witnesses and other data trails AND the PCR test is a match.
On the other hand, countless people have been diagnosed with Covid having produced no symptoms, on solely the basis of the PCR test.
Do you see why your analogy doesn’t work? Or do you think people should drag themselves to a clinic every week to get a PCR test so that the police may ascertain whether they’ve been involved in criminal activity lately?
Now you’re completely confused. I was not saying that you could ascertain by a PCR test whether anybody was involved in a criminal activity lately.
In addition to be admissible evidence in court it is also used every day in medical laboratories to diagnose diseases. Even absent of any other symptoms.
You seem to want it both ways based on whether it suits you or not.
Yet that is the extension of the logic that is being used by the medical authorities – That people without symptoms should be given a PCR test if they are not vaccinated and that this test be the sole determinant of whether they have contracted the illness.
Can you name another condition that is diagnosed FULLY from a PCR test, with no symptoms occuring before or after the diagnosis?
Just another sunny day in CCCP County
You are the king of the one liners 👑. I wish I could keep it short and sweet.
The death rate for people vaccinated is 0.0005 percent. To put that in perspective, your chance of dying from a lightning strike is .0007 percent, and your chance of dying from a seasonal flu is 0.1 percent.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2021/07/27/vaccinated-americans-are-more-likely-die-lightning-strike-than-covid-dont-bring-back-restrictions/
In reply to comment about President Regan,
Ronald Reagan said it best,
“The best minds are not in government. If any were, business would steal them away. “
Please recall at that time, President Regan was in government and no business hired him away, perhaps they could see the effect of Alzheimer setting in.
Most people would realize that Reagan was just being honest and humorous…
I’m not surprised a Liberal couldn’t recognize that.
Captain Bebops
Here you go:
https://tinyurl.com/sdbz2bp7
https://tinyurl.com/rd73e9ee
https://tinyurl.com/btn632u2
“You can fool all the people some of the time and some of the people all the time, but you cannot fool all the people all the time.” Abraham Lincoln
Fauci and the deep state know this. My point of view is accounted for somewhere. They only need 5% of people to believe their lies to cause this chaos. They know this. I couldn’t care less about the people who don’t agree with me. I post here to inform the people who understand something isn’t right. We are in an information war. They have all the media outlets and we are still winning. COVID is only one of their weapons.
For anyone interested in what’s really going on, start looking into the pfizer contracts with countries. This will explain EVERYTHING. Hydroxychloroquine and ivermectin CANNOT be used to treat COVID. Pfizer and moderna forced the cures to be hidden per contract. If any country used the cures, the would not get the vaccine.
I don’t care who you are or what you think. This is CRIMES AGAINST HUMANITY 100%. The media, and lot’s of governments around the world are in on it. It’s a huge extortion of the world’s money. COVID itself is a HOAX. This is all a big money game.
Quinine is very bitter. There are lots of bitter herbs. There is a recipe for making something similar to hydroxy using lemon and grapefruit rinds (which are bitter). Restaurants often offer water with lemon slices in it. If i let my water is slices sit for a day then it is very bitter.
Info like this however makes some people turn into ducks. 😀
This link goes to an in depth discussion regarding COVID vaccines. I’m not taking a side here and I got the jab, but this kind of information should not be ignored.
What do you think after viewing?
https://tinyurl.com/tc7c7bzt
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