Contra Costa is now reporting 151 confirmed cases of coronavirus in the county, which is four more than this morning and 20 more than yesterday.
The county has also confirmed one more person has died, bringing the total amount of coronavirus-related deaths to two.
The health department does not release any further details, including the cities of those infected, or the number of people currently hospitalized.
The health department does not release any further details, including the cities of those infected, or the number of people currently hospitalized.
Why not? What is the big secret? Just acting dumb is the answer. I think we all have the right to know.
Because they’re entitled to their privacy and safety. Why do you want to know?
People do not have the right to know the information about the people that died. It’s called privacy! As far as which city they were in, it’s really a moot point. The health department no doubt has already followed up on all these patients as to who they were with and where they’ve been. Once a person is deemed to be infected, then everyone they’ve been in contact with are also tested. If you are doing what you are supposed to do, minimize contact with others, then you should be safe.
Read up on the HIPPA act!
Big Rob read up on the Constitution! The right to privacy is protected and so is my right to move freely and associate with who I want. If we are giving up our right to live free then doesn’t it make sense that the infected would also give up certain rights? Picking and choosing basic rights to protect is dangerous.
All rights should be defended. It is our duty to question the heavy hand of government. This is getting out of control. Free societies inherently come with individual risks and individual responsibilities. Freedom is not free.
Why are you not letting us know the cities? The County is huge and demographics are extremely important.
I agree, we need to know the city they lived in and the age and gender. We need to try to determine our own possible exposure for one thing. And if it is a friend for another. This is now hitting our friends and neighbors. I tool less than 2 weeks of staying at home to be this personal. And it is not drawing lines at age. FYI
they don’t want you to see it’s all liberal,filthy cities.Just a guess.
Wow James! Why does everyone have to bring politics into it (except the fact that if 45 had acted sooner we wouldn’t be in this mess as much). And there are just as many conservative, filthy towns.
Jazzman: Why do you think ignorance is strength? James has questioned the geography, lifestyle (smoking), income and density issues as well as the quality of information from government sources and the incentives groups are under to not provide correct information. He is looking for patterns to understand this whole thing. Others hunker down in their houses and claim it is not their business to understand anything for fear of stepping on someone’s civil rights to have an infectious disease. Guess which of you I would want to be working with to understand how dangerous this thing is?
It really doesn’t matter all that much. Just modify your behavior as if it was someone in your own neighborhood as much as you can. Even if they were all from another city, we all travel around so much we could easily have crossed paths. The more we follow recommended precautions the safer we’ll all be.
During times like these, people have the right to know where these infected people have been exactly. If we want to prevent further infection, those who may have been exposed should have the right to know. Absolutely absurd
Ttyl,
First off, the person that died has already had follow up, as to whom they were in contact with. If you had been with the person in a dentist office, I am sure they may have notified you to watch for symptoms. When they backed up the patients whereabouts, you would have been notified. If you are following CDC guidelines, you have nothing to worry about. You do NOT have the right to know what city the person was from.
Luv my cats,
You are probably infecting everyone if you think people shouldn’t receive any information.
And as other people have commented, we can follow cdc guidelines all we want, but some have no choice to leave for medicine or food.
I do feel like I, as everyone else in contra costa county, has the right to know. Maybe if this type of information was shared, people would do a better job adhering to the shelter in place rules.
Responding to Lumycats. “follow-up”? Oh, so we are supposed to trust the dead person on if they were able to fill out a questionnaire for the CDC on everywhere they went, and everyone they were around, even if they were at say… WHOLE FOODS?? How is the CDC-the ones that couldn’t get a good test out for over a month and still are not getting enough out- supposed to know who the casual passer’s by might have been? And that doesn’t mean anyone wasn’t following CDC Guidelines! Please back this down the calendar and tell me if we knew about 6 foot distancing 3 to 4 weeks ago-the amount of time this might have taken. We didnt. SO you guys are late getting any coherent message out and it OUR problem>? Until everyone with underlying conditions over 65 gets a test, dont shame talk people.
Responding to Lumycats: on this one they say it was a public employee, the area impacted and the sex and job type. Of course being a public nurse brings more scrutiny but we shouldn’t know the sex or area until they do their investigation right? But this persons tracking record is a LOT easier to figure out than a general person walking around everywhere. And yet we know so many things, NOT released by the CDC.
Good point, but disclosing such info would be a violation of the hippa act.
Serious question: What does it matter what city? If one is in your city, it’s still a very remote chance that you’ve come in contact with the person. And if you’re following what we’ve been told to do- stay in our home- then you’ve got a zero chance of coming in contact with someone infected.
151 cases so far in CoCo County. By population, that probably means that 12-15 cases are in Concord, another 12-15 in Richmond, 6-8 in WC, 15 or so in Antioch/Pittsburg, 2-4 each in Martinez and PH, 12-15 in Alamo/Danville/San Ramon, probably 8-10 in Brentwood/Oakley, 8-10 along the I-80 corridor (excluding Richmond), 6-8 in Lafayette/Orinda/Moraga, etc.
I think it’s pretty safe to assume that whatever community you live in CoCo County, there are several people that have had or currently have COVID-19.
Some of you probably want names and addresses too, along with a list of every place those people have been in the past month.
People have the right to know,
Yeah I agree Dodger. There’s not much that is actionable from a city-by-city breakdown. I have a feeling it is just the usual “the government is out to get us” crowd asking.
No, they actually don’t.
Your curiosity doesn’t supersede their right to privacy.
KHM, safety and wellbeing during a crisis supersedes their right to privacy.
Ozzie: Actually, most of us like our neighbors and if someone on my cul-de-sac had this, I would leave food and TP and other supplies at their door so they would not have to send family to the store. Perhaps that is the difference there between a democrat like you and a republican.
TDL,
I don’t like my neighbors, but I would still try to help them as much as I could because it’s the right thing to do. It must be tiring to live with all the hate that some people have.
@TDL
What a stupid comment. Why would think that everything is Democrats vs. Republicans?
JWB: Thank you so much for noticing. Ozzie has always been active in the politics section to turn everything into a negative remark about Trump, so turn about is fair play don’t you think. The democrats during the Obama administration fundamentally changed communication in today’s society and the way people approach things to make everything hyperpolitical. This is the party that brought us ANTIFA and the resist movement and cancel culture and 3 1/2 years of attempted impeachment. I wonder if the attack culture of the democrats materially slowed the response time to the virus because of the obvious tsunami of racism accusations the administration knew they would endure if they closed travel with China.
@ TDL
have you ever considered that people may comment negative about Trump not because he is a Republican but because he is an idiot?
BTW I’m fairly sure that Trump for more of his lifetime actually has been a Democrat than a Republican.
@TDL
Let me also address your false narrative. I’m not sure whether you’re trolling or whether you really believe what you wrote.
I don’t support the ANTIFA tactics and I don’t know anybody of my liberal friends who would do so, but why are you completely ignoring the vile coming from extreme right wing groups. You have certainly never heard me accusing conservatives here on this blog to support the tactics of White Supremacist groups, so why do you find it okay to accuse Democrats for ANTIFA?
“The democrats during the Obama administration fundamentally changed communication in today’s society ”
What is your support for such a statement? I actually think the communication in today’s society has been largely changed by (mostly right wing) radio personalities. Have you ever listen to any of them? On a daily basis the refer to people they disagree with as “subhumans”, “vermins” and so forth.
Do you forget the angry woman during a McCain event accusing Obama as a muslim who wants to destroy America? Do you remember that McCain actually stopped her vile rant? Do you remember Rep Joe Wilson (R) during the 2009 State of the Union Address? Do you remember the way Tea Partier were behaving in Town Hall meetings all over the country? Do you remember the Birthers? Do you remember Trump making his statements on CNN that he had sent his investigators to Hawaii and they found unbelievable documentation that Obama was not born in Hawaii? BTW he said that he would release these documents shortly, but I guess they must have by accident gotten in his Tax Returns.
@ TDL
I forgot your last point. First Trump never closed travel with China. OG posted a link to a Seattle newspaper yesterday about the presumptive patient zero for the Washington State outbreak. Even if Trump would have issued his restrictions at the start of 2020 this individual was not part of the restriction.
And of course he couldn’t stop travel with China because he was betting that this would all blow over and there wouldn’t be any danger, that’s why he called the warnings by Democrats and the press a hoax. He hoped that COVID-19 would be non-event like Y2K turned out so he could capitalize on his foresight and not reacting to it. Unfortunately he was wrong and the country now pays the price for wasted time which should have been used to prepare for this.
JWB: Trump and mainstream conservatives repeated make statements rejecting white supremacist groups, yet I am not aware of any major democratic representatives rejecting ANTIFA. Did you see that in fact House Democrats rejected an amendment to a domestic terrorism bill adding ANTIFA to the long list of domestic terrorist groups. As for your list of what you believe is misbehavior by conservatives against liberals, for each of any such examples there are many many such examples of misbehavior by liberals against conservatives. What kind of people organize on social media and form up groups to follow members of the other political party into restaurants to harass them and their families. That is really sick. Anyway, this politics discussion is starting to pollute a coronavirus discussion so if you want to continue this please go to the politics site for more discussion.
I agree it would be nice to know approximate location, but privacy rules are tricky. I will tell you if you were in close proximity you would have been notified. The first person that passed was in his 70s and a frequent overseas traveler.
Yes, you are correct. If you are diagnosed with a communicable disease, you will be asked to provide a complete history of where ypu went, when, and who ypu had contact with.
Besides, what will be accomplished by knowing where these dead people lived? You gonna move cities?
If you’d have been good boys and girls and adhered to the shelter in place, you wouldn’t be worrying about where the people are, live, or have been.
Okay, start the flaming session 😉
I have not left my home for 6 days. But I still want details. My bad!
Not necessarily true! Because some of us still NEED to be working in grocery stores, and all of us are still shopping in grocery stores!!!🤷🏻♀️. Wven being six feet away, I’m sorry but there are people touching everything thing in stores that’s life and for those of us that work in a store well, there’s no way around it!! So the comment about if they were doing what they were supposed to be doing they were doing they wouldn’t be so worried, is not valid.
Plus, there’s that one guy that sneezes 7 feet.
I hear you loud and clear about the grocery stores! I see people not paying any attention to the social distancing rule or common courtesy about touching everything, wiping noses, coughing, etc. I really dread shopping now. If it weren’t for me shopping for elderly loved ones, I’d be avoiding it way more. I have a job in a different industry that involves working closely around others, handling shared equipment, customer contact, etc. and I’m really surprised that masks aren’t provided to us. I read today, just to confirm, that the Center for Disease Control is still stating the main way the COVID-19 virus spreads is through the air, not just touch. Soooooo, what the heck? Us at our “essential business”, forced to work with throngs of badly-mannered people and little protection.
I feel for the grocery store employees who have to be there. I’m cleaning off my packaged purchases with alcohol before bring them inside, can’t really treat produce like that though. It’s all getting cooked. Shoes are taken off outside. Clothing in the garage. 🙂 My car is being treated as a contaminated zone, poor baby.
I will be running out of isopropyl alcohol very soon. This virus is said to have quite the shelf life!
All of you saying to stay sheltered in place must be siting back from a good position. The truth is even if after this shelter in place thing is over there will be more cases.
Great example of government continuing to put people in a panic. POST THE AMOUNT OF PEOPLE WHO HAVE RECOVERED!!!! This narrative implies we are waiting for another 149 people to die I guess.
Here’s what Johns Hopkins says per their dashboard right now:
US: 104,661 cases, 1,706 deaths (1.6%), 890 recovered (0.85%)
California: 4,880 cases, 100 deaths (2%), 0 recovered (no data)
Contra Costa: 151 cases, 1 death (0.6%, 0 recovered (no data)
It doesn’t look like they are tracking recoveries.
Note that as the daily infected counts continue to rise, the deaths/case remains in a very narrow band between 1.1% and 1.8%. The recent trend is upward over the past 8 days; from 1.1 to 1.3 to (now) 1.5%
Why would they want to show any sign of hope or optimism?Theres no money in it,the money is in panic and fear and control,thats all this is about,they are trying to push the limits of America to see where it starts to crumble.A weak,weak,easily suggestable society emerges,into the govt boa constrictor.only the very MENTALLY strong survive.
I encourage people to read this article from the New England Journal of Medicine – Covid-19 — Navigating the Uncharted by
Anthony S. Fauci, M.D., H. Clifford Lane, M.D., and Robert R. Redfield, M.D. – March 26, 2020
“If one assumes that the number of asymptomatic or minimally symptomatic cases is several times as high as the number of reported cases, the case fatality rate may be considerably less than 1%. This suggests that the overall clinical consequences of Covid-19 may ultimately be more akin to those of a severe seasonal influenza (which has a case fatality rate of approximately 0.1%) or a pandemic influenza (similar to those in 1957 and 1968) rather than a disease similar to SARS or MERS, which have had case fatality rates of 9 to 10% and 36%, respectively.”
https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMe2002387
Commonsensenor, awfully presumptuous of you to assume we aren’t following the rules just because we feel like we deserve more information. I’ve refused to leave my house for 14 days. However, I do have family members that have to leave the house without choice.
I agree with Reality says….Post the number of people recoveing
Yes, Mr. Mayor, please report on the numbers of all the people who have recovered from the flu this season as well.
FYI, Donovan Mitchell and Kevin Durant have recovered from the disease.
Why is it so many of you are demanding to know where these people live? It’s irrelevant. We know it in this county. I guarantee you every town in this county has cases so we all need to aassume it’s in our backyard and stay safe. Also, these people have a right to their privacy and safety. Where they live is no one’s business. Get over it.
Why are so many of you leftys saying”dont worry about what city it’s in”?don’t worry about us worrying about what city it’s in,what are you trying to hide?Mind your own business.
Ok, so if I understand, it’s perfectly ok to release the names of schools where children have tested positive, but not the cities?? During the press conference today, the Dr. stated that municipalities need to be more transparent about where the cases are being confirmed, meaning city and subdivision, so that when people need to venture out, they can be properly prepared if they need to touch anything. Privacy laws cover specific personal information. As long as people’s names are not being released, there is no possible way to determine who has been confirmed by releasing the city or subdivision they live in. This is a public health crisis. Releasing information about city or subdivision is not anyone’s invasion of privacy!!
I think he’s a minor 17?
If this was the regular flu,it would be the best numbers(lowest) for the flu (on record )for mankind,get it???
Stay worried!!!!!
But we never had a shelter in place order for a regular flu so we don’t know if the numbers for the regular flu would be lower than COVID-19 if we had taken the same steps.
Funny how those who call out government & media deception and want to know more about where people are dying around them are labeled as anti-government tin-hatters.
Sovereign, self-reliant individuals with critical thinking skills are the enemy of group think and those using the crisis to destroy our liberties.
That’s not to say common sense precautions make sense.
They do.
And privacy can be easily maintained while providing more info. on the neighborhoods affected.
Ditto.
I think it’s time we close essential stores too. Full lockdown you have people still working at gas stations and grocery stores and restaurants…. they can easily pass it on it’s time we instill martial law.
How long should we plan to go without eating (before it all erupts)?
yesterday the published number of infections in county was 145. Latest is 151, yet the authorities state an increase of 20. Just wondering about the vaildity of information being passed out.
If it’s all about privacy, then why do we know that the first death was a 70 year old with existing health problems?
I could care less what part of the county the second death was, but I feel people have a right to know for demographic purposes, to see if one region is doing something different than another. Like Richmond versus Discovery Bay. Highly populated versus rural.
Try to keep in mind these statistics are only as good as the people reporting them, from the doctors and nurses to the media and everyone in between.
The article right after this named a young man killed in an accident. Where they lived and where they died. But they won’t let us know how many people infected in ccc are in the hospital and what towns they live in. We don’t need exact addresses or names. Until there’s transparency I don’t believe it.
If we don’t need to know the city then why do we need to know the county?
Good point. I’d like to see the statistic on how many people who’ve had it and recovered. I saw somewhere it’s over 113,000.
@ james
Wow. Just, wow.
JRocks,
The constitution also haves us the right to bear arms and to publicly meet.
What happened to those?
Incidentally, about a week ago I ran into a city Council member while standing in line at Trader Joe’s. They asked me my thoughts on the coronavirus situation and how the flow of information could better serve the public. I mentioned this exact issue, how I would like to know the breakdown of cases per city, because that was not being reported in the Contra Costa County. numbers that I was seeing. The council member asked me how I could possibly benefit from that information. No lie.