The “Water Cooler” is a feature on Claycord.com where we ask you a question or provide a topic, and you talk about it.
The “Water Cooler” will be up Monday-Friday at noon.
Today’s question:
QUESTION: Do you think convicted sex offender Jeffrey Epstein committed suicide in jail, or do you think he was murdered?
Talk about it….
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Of course he committed suicide. Cowards do it all the time in jail when they don’t want to face the consequences. It saves the taxpayers money.
I believe he killed himself. He was use to living in various luxury places, had his own jet. He couldn’t take being locked up and he knew this time he most likely would be convicted and would have to spend the rest of his life in jail.
Besides killing him does not mean that whatever dirt he has/had on famous people would not come to light. Lawyers for the abused can still get those papers and supposedly he taped a lot of his parties, so although it would have been powerful if he in person could point the fingers at someone, does not mean that those that participated in illegal behavior is off the hook.
Please!!! His death is about as real as some of these recent “shootings”.
Can’t we just be happy he’s dead?
Thank you!
I doubt I am the only one whose first thought was “Good Riddance”!
Couldn’t the same sentiment be expressed in favor of the death penalty?
We will never know is my guess. What I want know is why they don’t hire more guards rather than triple the wages of the over worked crew they have. Why did his lawyers have him taken off of suicide watch? Why did they comply? Another tangled web.
Overtime is far cheaper than hiring additional employees when you factor in the cost of training, benefits, and pensions. When business slows down it is also far easier to cut back on the overtime hours rather than to terminate an employee or to move someone to a “make work” project.
The whole thing is suspicious.
Am I convinced it was suicide? No.
Am I convinced it was a plot? No.
Do I think it was “Killary?” Only is as much as if it was, someone on Team Orange split the check at the end of the meal.
I can think of a few excellent reasons he had to have committed suicide, and I can also imagine that some people may have wanted to murder him, or to have him murdered in a really bad way. I am 50/50 on it, and I also think there’s a 99.99% chance we’ll never know what really happened to old Jeffrey.
It very well could have been a hit. Barr said he is looking into it, as Epstein already was on suicide watch,but wasn’t supervised 24 hr/day. Possibly somebody wanted him gone, so he wouldn’t testify.
Difficult to say, as he botched his suicide attempt.
Murdered of course, to prevent him from talking about his Pedophile buddy, our Moron in Chief, Trump.
You misspelled Bill Clinton
Thanks for the info. Any source you can share with us?
Got any proof? Or just more leftist liberal brainwashed b.s. diatribe?
Jla,
Funniest comment this month!
Hopefully it was suacide…
I think the question should be “How confident were you that Epstein would die before trial”?
I was at 110%
Such a shame my prior post didn’t go through properly.
Epstein was “Clintoned”. Any other discussion. Ding dong the witch is dead.
My money would be on suicide. He was well and truly screwed and knew it.
But … 🙂
With all of the powerful people (on both sides of the political spectrum)….
I could be convinced that wealthy, powerful men could have either arranged for a suicidal man to be left by himself in a regular cell with the ability to kill himself – or could have easily arranged for his “suicide”.
In increasing order of likelihood: Suicide, murder, not dead.
I like that not dead part.
Not dead. He was associated with some very powerful and wealthy people. Due to the nature of the crimes and will be cremated, not dead is believable.
Dead men tell no tales.
True, but all the papers journals etc. that he left behind does.
murder? suicide? who knows right now.. the odds of living were %0 anyway…
It was reported as suicide,….or made to look like suicide, maybe?
Many powerful people linked to Epstein who wouldn’t want him to talk.
I would be surprised if the truth gets to see the day of light. Just like everything else, will we ever really know?
My vote would be for Trump, he has the most to lose. The Clinton days have passed.
There’s a shock…
Bubba Clinton is the one with 26 flights on the Lolita express, not President Trump.
I think he killed himself, but I also feel like he was told he could do it or he’d be killed in some other horrible manner. I also think the guards were told to stay away for a while, and Clintoncide is real.
I’m not the coroner. How would I know?
I don’t know. I don’t have enough evidence to form an opinion.
Since when do you “anything” to have an opinion? Thanks for the chuckle!
Wanna try that again? Try proofreading this time.
Rollo Tomasi. “I don’t know. I don’t have enough evidence to form an opinion.”
That is the correct answer. 🙂
You don’t need evidence to form an opinion. If there was evidence to back it up, it would be a FACT, not an opinion. There’s a difference.
Revealed that Epstein had broken neck bones, specifically the hyoid, which seems inconsistent with officials’ version of his death. A piece of evidence that might prod me toward forming an opinion on the question posed by the Mayor.
Taken off suicide watch, cell mate removed day before; next step, witness protection program, at direction of person with most to lose: the president.
So many Clinton “associates” have committed suicide. Dozens have died mysteriously–remember Foster. Trump had a falling out with Epstein in the 1990″s at the Trump resorts, and banned Epstein from them, because he was mistreating Trump’s employees. How does one become a volunteer guard to guard an important prisoner, as one of the guards who failed to check on him every half hr. was? Not suicide, too many irregularities at that time with too many high ranking people who took part in Epstein’s “activities” that wanted him buried. Will the pictures and documents come out about his and others’ crimes- or will they disappear and be buried too?
Your comment is either tongue in cheek or you didn’t read the article you linked. I’ll base my judgment on your past record…
If he died I think Queen Elizabeth ordered it. Her son had a lot of skin in this game. We know how the royals hate scandal. With the involvement of the US Justice Dept. Trump gave it away that Justice was involved as quick as he finger pointed at Clinton.
However I am not so sure he is dead. Spirited away to a new life in witness protection. Autopsy reports do occasionally lie. Especially when it involves very wealthy people and high ranking political figures from around the world.
I don’t know, and frankly my dear, I don’t give a damn.
The last photos I saw of him, he loocked haggard and distraught. I’d say suicide.
Breaking news: guard watching Epstein killed in freak accident next month.
My comment was based on the current idea that if I had a url then that could be fact. I just wanted to show that there plenty of fake sites that I can display. And lots of people take tham as fact. I guess you don’t accept this site as fact. But a lot of your friends do. Where is the line?
I’m with Atticus Thrax & Dawg 100%. To discuss it further is like contemplating what happens to stuff that you flush down the toilet.
If it was the Clintons trump should be very very afraid after he leaves office.
DOH!! Don’t you think “Killary” would have killed him BEFORE he won???
Can usually find differing points of view just from talking with people then there are political cartoonists who assiduously view events from unique perspectives.
https://comicallyincorrect.com/a-f-branco-cartoon-with-friends-like-these/
https://www.gocomics.com/tom-stiglich/2019/08/12
He’s not dead and is now banging 72 virgins while calling for more fresh meat.
Lol!! Wish I’d said that.
Yeah Silva, I wish I said that as well! What a knee slapper! This “man” had sex with children and jokes are made?
Stay classy claycord!
Probably Arkancide, but it is a sad commentary, that his death is probably one of the few things that has bi-partisan support; the political elite on both sides on the aisle want child trafficking covered up. Ugh, so many of the powerful men mentioned have daughters….hard to believe family men think sex with 13-14 year old children is OK.
“hard to believe family men think sex with 13-14 year old children is OK.”
Remember when Trump mentioned “dating” his daughter, Ivanka?
Maybe not murder but perhaps allowed to commit suicide?
Assisted suicide.
Maybe not killed by the govt. but they probably gave him the rope.
Royals and presidents breathed a big sigh of relief.
Who knows for sure. When you can’t trust the government or the media.
most of the public all are sheep , it will be washed up by some other tragedy soon and everyone will forget because your all consumed by your social media accounts . and I’m sure this won’t be posted
Jojo,
If you are serious, then Fake News To You. Breitbart didn’t say that Russia Killed Epstein.. Breitbart said that Alec Baldwin says Russia Killed Epstein. So did a slew of the usual blame trumpers like Rob Reiner, Patton Oswald, Ron Perlman, Michael Moore, etc.
Is it suspicious? Hell yeah! Epstein hung out with some pretty powerful people on both sides of the aisle and on both sides of the Atlantic. I think it’s safe to say that he probably had dirt on many of them (audio/video tapes, photos?). They were all sweating. But did they have him killed? Most likely not.
Epstein was a coward and took the easy way out. Now he’s suffering with the likes of Adolph and Osama. It will be interesting to see what crimes are prosecuted based on evidence already gathered.
Or did he fake his death??………..Enquiring minds want to know
Jojo, you didn’t post a fake news story from Breitbart. You posted a story from Breitbart mocking Alec Baldwin (you know – that staunch conservative and Trump supporter) for tweeting fake news that the Russians killed Epstein.
So, in conclusion, you wrote “It was the Russians! Breitbart said so”, when in reality, with just a modicum of reading comprehension, one can discern that Breitbart claimed nothing of the sort, and simply reported the galactically stupid tweet by Baldwin. So you didn’t show ANYTHING about fake sites reporting fake news. Keep at it though, I’m pulling for ya’
Gee Rollo, I guess I didn’t study enough or your ethos to totally buy in and understand your version of facts. In the meantime I’ll stick with commonsense.. Enjoy!
The link JoJo Potato posted was to an article on Brietbart which mocked the ridiculous Tweet by Alec Baldwin who said that Epstein had been murdered by Russian. Correctly stated, JoJo’s link would have been described as “Creating his own version of the details, Alec Baldwin believes Russians murdered Epstein. Breitbart examines this fake news.”
@Jojo:
All you really needed to do is read and comprehend your own link. Let me know if you need help with the big words.
The Queen had him snuffed out to protect Prince Andy.
How about
He committed suicide and our imaginations (and biases) decided the rest?
You know, if I trusted the government, I might actually believe that. But our government has lost sight of the vision of our founding fathers and, just like every other government has become corrupt. In this era where the end justifies the means, and power is all that matters, I would not be surprised if he was “allowed” to commit suicide in order to cover up some trafficking ring run by the rich and powerful politically connected elite. Hopefully he has some sort of contingency plan incase of an unfortunate accident.
It was an accident! He was only practicing auto-erotic asphyxiation for the third time that day.
It is Barr’s jail (DOJ and he’s the boss) and Barr is a Trump lackey. Conclude the obvious. (Hint: Epstein was suicidal because of his sex crimes; he should have been on a suicide watch, but wasn’t; Epstein had dirt on the president. Ergo, Barr was doing his master’s bidding.)
No doubt his death was a cause of relief for many powerful people, but it was suicide. He knew not only would he be locked up for decades, but he would have a very painful existence at the hands of both inmates and guards as a convicted pervert. A true coward in every sense of the word.
.I am impressed by the wise people who can answer that question without any facts at all in their possession. Those who blame President Trump opine as knowledgeably as those who infer it was a Clinton connected crime. I humbly must admit that I have no answer as to whether it was a suicide or an execution. I cannot blame overworked correctional officers, or lazy government employees for the lack of a suicide watch. Was a suicide watch even possible to maintain for the long pretrial period? I bow to the combined wisdom of my fellow Claycordians.
Awaiting more information before forming an opinion? That’s unheard of!!
Did Epstein commit suicide? Ha, Ha, Ha, Ha, Ha!…….,,,No, wait….you were serious?
Then there’s this….
https://imgflip.com/i/37u364
This is like a Shakespeare play. It has all the drama, twists and turns, in fact it doesn’t sound real at all. From the very beginning the entire scenario just sounded fake to me. Ultimately, however, I wondered why anyone really cared about it all. The rich have a life that we cannot even begin to imagine no matter how hard we try. We 9 to fivers grind our life away barely making it from check to check, so exhausted we’re lucky we stay awake while driving home and yet we’re supposed to care about these people who live a life so trivial, so absurd that somehow they are relevant? No way, Jose!
People cared because there were children being sex-trafficed.
The story fascinate people because he seemingly lived a charmed life, but took advantage of very young and vulnerable girls. It is not that we care about him as a person so much, but we are caught up in the drama and of course would like to see justice done, for the people he abused. There is also some speculation how he made his money I’m fascinated by the story (and yes I’m a 9 to 5, not exactly I work retail so it is more like 1 to 9 p.m.) Also many people seem to take pleasure in seeing the rich and powerful fall from grace. I don’t feel that way as long as they have gotten their riches and position in an honest way and have not been abusive or stolen on their way up.
I don’t think he’s dead at all.
Spirited away to his private island
If the DOJ would announce they were allowing Roman Polanski back in the country to testify against the Clintons, the world would be a much better place, as well as a much safer place for young girls.
Guys, guys!
Jimmy Hoffa did it. As a favor to Tupac, who doesn’t want all that …stuff… to come out into public about his buddy Elvis.
🙂
Either way the world is a little better with one less pedo! Relieved we won’t pay for him to stay in Club Fed or just get a slap on the wrist again!
He hung himself from a bunk bed with a bed sheet & it broke multiple bones in his neck…. If coupled with HRC’s “willing suspension of disbelief” that should be enough to satisfy disinterested FBI agents.
The bunk bed is only 5 1/2 feet high…. how could Epstein drop with enough force to break bones in his neck? With a bed sheet?
This isn’t even a decent coverup. Too obvious!
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