Chicken LittleAugust 11, 2019 - 11:27 AM - 11:27 AM
If you want them, you better hurry. Chuck Schumer is trying to ban them.
XennialAugust 11, 2019 - 4:16 PM - 4:16 PM
Now you are just making stuff up….
Sign from AboveAugust 12, 2019 - 7:50 AM - 7:50 AM
Xennial you apparently didn’t see the news this am. That’s exactly what he said! You see now? Even you thought that was a pie in the sky ridiculous statement! That’s where the left is going!
JasakaAugust 12, 2019 - 9:41 AM - 9:41 AM
I’m assuming you are referring to the report that Schumer proposed a bill that would require FBI to regulate body armor sales.
I think regulating bullet proof backpacks would be a consequence of this.
I also think it’s a little disingenuous to spin it by writing “Chuck Schumer is trying to ban them” in reference to the bulletproof backpacks, and then you double-down on it by saying “that’s exactly what he said” when Xennial commented that what you said isn’t true.
MattfromConcordAugust 11, 2019 - 11:28 AM - 11:28 AM
No
SAugust 11, 2019 - 11:38 AM - 11:38 AM
please correct me if I am wrong: Bullet Proof Vests and now backpacks are for resisting typical handgun bullets. Most of these active shooters use high-powered rifles??? That bullet cuts thru the vest/backpacks like a hot knife thru butter. Food for Thought.
West LelandAugust 11, 2019 - 1:14 PM - 1:14 PM
Not true. Plenty of active shooters use handguns or carbines and the semi auto rifles that they do tend to use are made for speed and ease of use/ maneuverability over power so saying that they cut through bullet resistant material “like a hot knife thru butter” isn’t accurate.
That said I don’t know how effective a bullet proof backpack would be in protecting someone from being shot. Getting rid of the guns is far from an easy solution but these shootings are really getting to be ridiculous and it’s something that no other developed country experiences at this rate.
Chicken LittleAugust 11, 2019 - 2:01 PM - 2:01 PM
Like Mexico, for example. Their strict gun laws have all but eliminated gun violence. Not.
XennialAugust 11, 2019 - 4:16 PM - 4:16 PM
Chicken Little: Unfortunately, Mexico suffers from being our neighbor with a flood of easily obtained guns being smuggled into Mexico from our southern border. When looking at foreign countries with reasonable gun control laws look at the countries that don’t share a border to a huge cache of guns. Or don’t limit yourself to looking at a single country and instead look at many of them to get better, objective evidence of the impact of gun control laws.
Sign from AboveAugust 12, 2019 - 7:54 AM - 7:54 AM
Xennial ????
So now were responsible for all the gun problems of our neighbors? Wow! No. They’ve had their own home grown problems for decades. What a ridiculous statement!
WCAugust 12, 2019 - 8:58 AM - 8:58 AM
Ask Obama’s AG Eric Holder about gun smuggling to Mexico. Google “Operation Fast and Furious.”
If you think they only come from the US you’re rather naive.
Carnac the MagnificentAugust 12, 2019 - 11:25 AM - 11:25 AM
@ West Leland
Body armor is rated by class by US National Institute of Justice. Class IIIA which is the highest soft body armor rating level that is considered both concealable and wearable by law enforcement. This is due to the weight and flexibility of the bullet-resistant material.
Class IIIA is rated for up to a .44 Magnum from a pistol length barrel. It is not rated for rifle rounds and they will in fact pass through Class IIIA body armor “like a hot knife thru butter”. I know is to be a fact from personal experience of having shot both Class IIIA soft body armor and a class IIIA hard shield with a Colt M4 carbine rifle.
Even when the bullet-resistant material catches the bullet you still have to deal with blunt force trauma. Soft body armor has to “give” a certain amount to absorb the energy of a projectile. That deformation goes several inches into the body.
Putting hard body armor into a child’s backpack would be weight prohibitive and putting soft body armor in a backpack would be statistically speaking, a giant waste of money and not to mention the extra weight the little tike has to hump around.
BoboheadAugust 11, 2019 - 11:57 AM - 11:57 AM
How soon do you think we will see the first teenage death from kids playing with parents guns to “test” the backpack? I’m sure parents will blame the backpack and not the fact they had a loaded gun where the kids could access it. If it’s true Schumer is trying to ban them, thumbs up to him. We shouldn’t need them. Let’s solve the gun problem!
JWBAugust 11, 2019 - 2:13 PM - 2:13 PM
@ Stephen
Do you have any support for your statement that Canada has more firearms than the US? The only thing I could see is Wikipedia (and I realize that that information may or may be not accurate)?
Not true. Canada has fewer guns per capita than the US(which ranks #1) and since their population is less by a factor of 10, they have far fewer guns than we do.
Every time I go to Canada all the customs agents care about is if I’m bringing firearms in and if I have a “concealed” permit. Never once have I been asked by US customs about weapons.
Go by your kid’s school in a couple of weeks. The lost & found will be full of backpacks and hoodies. Your kid will lose a bulletproof item just as easily as a non-bullet proof one. So my answer is no I wouldn’t buy one,
DerbAugust 11, 2019 - 6:23 PM - 6:23 PM
@itsme
I also find it strange when crossing the boarder into Canada when the custom agents ask if you have any guns or any explosive devices with you & then when crossing the boarder back into the USA the custom agents ask if you have any cigarettes or alcohol with you.
Aunt BarbaraAugust 11, 2019 - 12:04 PM - 12:04 PM
If you consider buying these, please consider homeschooling and teaching your children moral values and caring about others. They learn by example.
JanonAugust 11, 2019 - 3:02 PM - 3:02 PM
Of course that’s ideal but then there’s the fact that we live
In the Bay Area $$$ 🙁
DawgAugust 11, 2019 - 12:34 PM - 12:34 PM
My kid is grown, but if she was still school age I would never even allow her to use a backpack, let alone a backpack with the added weight of bullet proof material.
The heavy load of a backpack places unnecessary stress in the spine and shoulders, which in turn will result in poor posture. Later in life after they reach adulthood, they will suffer the consequences.
RicoAugust 11, 2019 - 8:00 PM - 8:00 PM
Without a backpack, a kid will have to carry a heavy armload of books/notebooks/pencil case, which is hard on the arms and the back. The backpack is necessary. If it’s too heavy, blame the school for not allowing the kids to leave unneeded books at school until the next day.
TsaAugust 11, 2019 - 12:35 PM - 12:35 PM
Nope, this is just more paranoia run amok…
Students would be better off taking their faces out of their phones and being aware of their surroundings.
EsaAugust 11, 2019 - 1:52 PM - 1:52 PM
Not all kids have phones. My do not. They are having to deal with stuff they should never have to. Unfortunately, this country would rather “hunt” than to save children’s lives.
RandyAugust 11, 2019 - 3:36 PM - 3:36 PM
Do criminals buy their guns legally? Find the registered owners and hold them accountable.
Rollo TomasiAugust 12, 2019 - 10:52 AM - 10:52 AM
Hey Randy – same deal with stolen vehicles, right? If you get your car stolen and it’s used in the commission of a crime, you’ll be held responsible. Agreed?
EsaAugust 11, 2019 - 1:50 PM - 1:50 PM
Not everyone has the resources for homeschooling. I had to explain to my 5 and 8 year old what do if they see someone with a gun. It was one of the worst experiences I have had as a parent but I would rather give them the.tools they will need to survive in this horrible world than to have said nothing and then have to live with that if something were to happen.
TsaAugust 11, 2019 - 3:30 PM - 3:30 PM
You just described the first problem which is typical of the paranoia. I taught my children and grandchildren gun safety from age 1 and to not be afraid of guns, but respect guns. Teach them situational awareness and to be aware of their surroundings. I’m more concerned about drunk drivers than getting shot…
CynAugust 11, 2019 - 3:38 PM - 3:38 PM
Esa, you said this is a horrible world, yet you chose to bring children into it. Why would you do that if it’s so horrible? Your youngest is 5? Did this world become so terrible to you in the last five years? And saying that this country would rather hunt than to save children’s lives is completely asinine.
RicoAugust 11, 2019 - 8:07 PM - 8:07 PM
When I was about 7, my Mom had a talk with me about how to fight off a stranger abduction attempt. I was amazed at the idea that I could scream, hit, punch, and bite someone as my whole life, I’d been told not to do those things. I was worried about the idea of a kidnapping for a few days, but then I moved on to whatever else was going on in life. I later realized that I felt more confident knowing how to respond rather than just feeling like a potential victim. I think that kids who know what to do in a crisis will be more confident in general than kids who have no idea how to handle something.
Rollo TomasiAugust 11, 2019 - 9:13 PM - 9:13 PM
Are your kids afraid of law enforcement now?
DohAugust 11, 2019 - 2:26 PM - 2:26 PM
Bullet proof backpacks are fear mongering for profit.
AllisonAugust 11, 2019 - 2:30 PM - 2:30 PM
No way. I would just exercise my 2nd Amendment rights. Make it great again.
anonamelAugust 11, 2019 - 3:00 PM - 3:00 PM
I think, a decent pair of running shoes would be cheaper and more effective than a bullet proof backpack. Public mass shooters aren’t exactly shooting accurately and distance is your friend. Thankfully, most of us will never be involved in a shooting… our per capita murder rates are pretty low when compared to our per capita gun ownership rate, which suggests the overwhelming majority of gun owners are responsible AND our society as a generality is pretty docile (for now, but that sure does seem to be changing doesn’t it).
CynAugust 11, 2019 - 3:43 PM - 3:43 PM
anonamel, good post.
FoonmanAugust 11, 2019 - 3:06 PM - 3:06 PM
I fully understand a parents concern as I are one, however, I think that would be going about it the wrong way. First, shut down social media until kids reach a responsible age, impressionable kids of teen years need more attention than they did when I was young. Bring back two years of “Service to Country”, be it military, newer peace corp, or other service for which there is a need here or of choice, in a third world country where you can feel you made a difference. Give these young people the feeling they have some skin in the game. Maybe that’s why polls show only 28% of high school kids would put America first. They are being fooled into thinking its better someplace else.
RicardohAugust 11, 2019 - 3:15 PM - 3:15 PM
I don’t think so. What are the statistics of a kid getting hit in the back with a bullet? How about carrying a rattle snake bite kit or a fire extinguisher? On the other hand if you carry a back pack to work in the city and go on BART maybe.
Original GAugust 11, 2019 - 3:28 PM - 3:28 PM
NO, Neither.
STOP making kids targets by designating schools as gun free.
Have an armed presence on school grounds and make it very clear, policy is shoot to kill.
Gun free zones do nothing but endanger people in them.
CDPAugust 11, 2019 - 5:56 PM - 5:56 PM
Exactly! Publicly advertising as gun free zones creates perfect targets. Taking away guns from law-abiding citizens will not change anything for criminals or crazy people who decide to hurt others as they don’t just use guns. We need open carry laws and a lot more focus on mental health issues to solve these problems.
Original GAugust 11, 2019 - 7:34 PM - 7:34 PM
“What society in human history ever gathered its children together, then issued a public guarantee that they would be left completely undefended? –Alex Rawls
RandyAugust 11, 2019 - 7:44 PM - 7:44 PM
Yea. It like the 55mph speed limit on freeways. It’s posted and everyone follows it.
Rollo TomasiAugust 12, 2019 - 10:56 AM - 10:56 AM
Randy, once again you miss the gist of the comment. To expound on your example, if the 55 mph speed zones were enforced by drones that blew up your car at 56 mph, the posted speed limits would be followed more closely.
Bad NombreAugust 11, 2019 - 3:51 PM - 3:51 PM
Just a gimmick to make money.
inmotionAugust 11, 2019 - 3:53 PM - 3:53 PM
NO
False sense of security, just more conditioning of the masses by the powers that be, keeping the public unbalanced and afraid of their neighbors.
BTW cadet bone-spurs is not helping any by putting out fires with gasoline.
CynAugust 12, 2019 - 8:50 AM - 8:50 AM
@inmotion………and what are your stupid little names you came up with for Clinton, Obama, and every other president who didn’t serve?
No. These do not have any indication of being effective for their intended purpose. Better to rely upon proper defensive actions rather than a false sense of security with a backpack. If there is a shooting incident in the future where these actually help anybody then I may change my mind but for now they are unproven as an effective defense.
ChuckStirAugust 11, 2019 - 5:21 PM - 5:21 PM
I would assume they are way over priced and they will only protect a small part of the body. I agree with DOH, profit from fear.
Just meAugust 11, 2019 - 5:30 PM - 5:30 PM
Getting rid of guns? How make them illegal? Like drugs are illegal? And nobody can get drugs…
If they tried to make guns illegal, the only people with guns would be military, police, and criminals. How would law abiding citizens protect themselves? It’s not the gun, it is the PERSON using the gun. Guns don’t kill people, people kill people.
RicardohAugust 11, 2019 - 5:41 PM - 5:41 PM
WHOA !!!
AnonAugust 11, 2019 - 5:43 PM - 5:43 PM
Only available at BullsEye School Supply
Ancient MarinerAugust 11, 2019 - 7:06 PM - 7:06 PM
My kids can look out for themselves – I want one for me!
Atticus ThraxxAugust 11, 2019 - 7:20 PM - 7:20 PM
Sure, why not? And at recess they can play well regulated militia, And misfire clearance drills for extra credit. This is ‘effing madness.
jjshawkAugust 11, 2019 - 10:55 PM - 10:55 PM
As soon as my current backpack falls apart, I may consider getting a bulletproof backpack, along with a bulletproof bike helmet, and bulletproof vest. f#$%, this insanity never ends. I guess, only the paranoid will survive.
CrawdaddyAugust 12, 2019 - 12:18 AM - 12:18 AM
I carried one with me all through middle school. I’m in high school now and don’t use it, they are too heavy.
RobAugust 12, 2019 - 4:49 AM - 4:49 AM
It takes one seriously screwed up society to get to the point where parents are actually buying bulletproof backpacks for their kid to take to school.
IlovepopcornAugust 12, 2019 - 10:51 PM - 10:51 PM
We have an agitated violent society that is getting worse everyday.
I am concerned there is no leadership to work on gun control, We need to fix this.
AnonZAugust 12, 2019 - 7:52 AM - 7:52 AM
NO.
PiedAugust 12, 2019 - 11:39 AM - 11:39 AM
Unintended consequences….I just have to think that this would lead to something stupid, like kids testing them out after school and accidentally killing their friend.
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If you want them, you better hurry. Chuck Schumer is trying to ban them.
Now you are just making stuff up….
Xennial you apparently didn’t see the news this am. That’s exactly what he said! You see now? Even you thought that was a pie in the sky ridiculous statement! That’s where the left is going!
I’m assuming you are referring to the report that Schumer proposed a bill that would require FBI to regulate body armor sales.
I think regulating bullet proof backpacks would be a consequence of this.
I also think it’s a little disingenuous to spin it by writing “Chuck Schumer is trying to ban them” in reference to the bulletproof backpacks, and then you double-down on it by saying “that’s exactly what he said” when Xennial commented that what you said isn’t true.
No
please correct me if I am wrong: Bullet Proof Vests and now backpacks are for resisting typical handgun bullets. Most of these active shooters use high-powered rifles??? That bullet cuts thru the vest/backpacks like a hot knife thru butter. Food for Thought.
Not true. Plenty of active shooters use handguns or carbines and the semi auto rifles that they do tend to use are made for speed and ease of use/ maneuverability over power so saying that they cut through bullet resistant material “like a hot knife thru butter” isn’t accurate.
That said I don’t know how effective a bullet proof backpack would be in protecting someone from being shot. Getting rid of the guns is far from an easy solution but these shootings are really getting to be ridiculous and it’s something that no other developed country experiences at this rate.
Like Mexico, for example. Their strict gun laws have all but eliminated gun violence. Not.
Chicken Little: Unfortunately, Mexico suffers from being our neighbor with a flood of easily obtained guns being smuggled into Mexico from our southern border. When looking at foreign countries with reasonable gun control laws look at the countries that don’t share a border to a huge cache of guns. Or don’t limit yourself to looking at a single country and instead look at many of them to get better, objective evidence of the impact of gun control laws.
Xennial ????
So now were responsible for all the gun problems of our neighbors? Wow! No. They’ve had their own home grown problems for decades. What a ridiculous statement!
Ask Obama’s AG Eric Holder about gun smuggling to Mexico. Google “Operation Fast and Furious.”
If you think they only come from the US you’re rather naive.
@ West Leland
Body armor is rated by class by US National Institute of Justice. Class IIIA which is the highest soft body armor rating level that is considered both concealable and wearable by law enforcement. This is due to the weight and flexibility of the bullet-resistant material.
Class IIIA is rated for up to a .44 Magnum from a pistol length barrel. It is not rated for rifle rounds and they will in fact pass through Class IIIA body armor “like a hot knife thru butter”. I know is to be a fact from personal experience of having shot both Class IIIA soft body armor and a class IIIA hard shield with a Colt M4 carbine rifle.
Even when the bullet-resistant material catches the bullet you still have to deal with blunt force trauma. Soft body armor has to “give” a certain amount to absorb the energy of a projectile. That deformation goes several inches into the body.
Putting hard body armor into a child’s backpack would be weight prohibitive and putting soft body armor in a backpack would be statistically speaking, a giant waste of money and not to mention the extra weight the little tike has to hump around.
How soon do you think we will see the first teenage death from kids playing with parents guns to “test” the backpack? I’m sure parents will blame the backpack and not the fact they had a loaded gun where the kids could access it. If it’s true Schumer is trying to ban them, thumbs up to him. We shouldn’t need them. Let’s solve the gun problem!
@ Stephen
Do you have any support for your statement that Canada has more firearms than the US? The only thing I could see is Wikipedia (and I realize that that information may or may be not accurate)?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Estimated_number_of_civilian_guns_per_capita_by_country
Not true. Canada has fewer guns per capita than the US(which ranks #1) and since their population is less by a factor of 10, they have far fewer guns than we do.
Every time I go to Canada all the customs agents care about is if I’m bringing firearms in and if I have a “concealed” permit. Never once have I been asked by US customs about weapons.
Go by your kid’s school in a couple of weeks. The lost & found will be full of backpacks and hoodies. Your kid will lose a bulletproof item just as easily as a non-bullet proof one. So my answer is no I wouldn’t buy one,
@itsme
I also find it strange when crossing the boarder into Canada when the custom agents ask if you have any guns or any explosive devices with you & then when crossing the boarder back into the USA the custom agents ask if you have any cigarettes or alcohol with you.
If you consider buying these, please consider homeschooling and teaching your children moral values and caring about others. They learn by example.
Of course that’s ideal but then there’s the fact that we live
In the Bay Area $$$ 🙁
My kid is grown, but if she was still school age I would never even allow her to use a backpack, let alone a backpack with the added weight of bullet proof material.
The heavy load of a backpack places unnecessary stress in the spine and shoulders, which in turn will result in poor posture. Later in life after they reach adulthood, they will suffer the consequences.
Without a backpack, a kid will have to carry a heavy armload of books/notebooks/pencil case, which is hard on the arms and the back. The backpack is necessary. If it’s too heavy, blame the school for not allowing the kids to leave unneeded books at school until the next day.
Nope, this is just more paranoia run amok…
Students would be better off taking their faces out of their phones and being aware of their surroundings.
Not all kids have phones. My do not. They are having to deal with stuff they should never have to. Unfortunately, this country would rather “hunt” than to save children’s lives.
Do criminals buy their guns legally? Find the registered owners and hold them accountable.
Hey Randy – same deal with stolen vehicles, right? If you get your car stolen and it’s used in the commission of a crime, you’ll be held responsible. Agreed?
Not everyone has the resources for homeschooling. I had to explain to my 5 and 8 year old what do if they see someone with a gun. It was one of the worst experiences I have had as a parent but I would rather give them the.tools they will need to survive in this horrible world than to have said nothing and then have to live with that if something were to happen.
You just described the first problem which is typical of the paranoia. I taught my children and grandchildren gun safety from age 1 and to not be afraid of guns, but respect guns. Teach them situational awareness and to be aware of their surroundings. I’m more concerned about drunk drivers than getting shot…
Esa, you said this is a horrible world, yet you chose to bring children into it. Why would you do that if it’s so horrible? Your youngest is 5? Did this world become so terrible to you in the last five years? And saying that this country would rather hunt than to save children’s lives is completely asinine.
When I was about 7, my Mom had a talk with me about how to fight off a stranger abduction attempt. I was amazed at the idea that I could scream, hit, punch, and bite someone as my whole life, I’d been told not to do those things. I was worried about the idea of a kidnapping for a few days, but then I moved on to whatever else was going on in life. I later realized that I felt more confident knowing how to respond rather than just feeling like a potential victim. I think that kids who know what to do in a crisis will be more confident in general than kids who have no idea how to handle something.
Are your kids afraid of law enforcement now?
Bullet proof backpacks are fear mongering for profit.
No way. I would just exercise my 2nd Amendment rights. Make it great again.
I think, a decent pair of running shoes would be cheaper and more effective than a bullet proof backpack. Public mass shooters aren’t exactly shooting accurately and distance is your friend. Thankfully, most of us will never be involved in a shooting… our per capita murder rates are pretty low when compared to our per capita gun ownership rate, which suggests the overwhelming majority of gun owners are responsible AND our society as a generality is pretty docile (for now, but that sure does seem to be changing doesn’t it).
anonamel, good post.
I fully understand a parents concern as I are one, however, I think that would be going about it the wrong way. First, shut down social media until kids reach a responsible age, impressionable kids of teen years need more attention than they did when I was young. Bring back two years of “Service to Country”, be it military, newer peace corp, or other service for which there is a need here or of choice, in a third world country where you can feel you made a difference. Give these young people the feeling they have some skin in the game. Maybe that’s why polls show only 28% of high school kids would put America first. They are being fooled into thinking its better someplace else.
I don’t think so. What are the statistics of a kid getting hit in the back with a bullet? How about carrying a rattle snake bite kit or a fire extinguisher? On the other hand if you carry a back pack to work in the city and go on BART maybe.
NO, Neither.
STOP making kids targets by designating schools as gun free.
Have an armed presence on school grounds and make it very clear, policy is shoot to kill.
Gun free zones do nothing but endanger people in them.
Exactly! Publicly advertising as gun free zones creates perfect targets. Taking away guns from law-abiding citizens will not change anything for criminals or crazy people who decide to hurt others as they don’t just use guns. We need open carry laws and a lot more focus on mental health issues to solve these problems.
“What society in human history ever gathered its children together, then issued a public guarantee that they would be left completely undefended? –Alex Rawls
Yea. It like the 55mph speed limit on freeways. It’s posted and everyone follows it.
Randy, once again you miss the gist of the comment. To expound on your example, if the 55 mph speed zones were enforced by drones that blew up your car at 56 mph, the posted speed limits would be followed more closely.
Just a gimmick to make money.
NO
False sense of security, just more conditioning of the masses by the powers that be, keeping the public unbalanced and afraid of their neighbors.
BTW cadet bone-spurs is not helping any by putting out fires with gasoline.
@inmotion………and what are your stupid little names you came up with for Clinton, Obama, and every other president who didn’t serve?
Can you buy these at Target?
Just what we need, heavier backpacks.
No. These do not have any indication of being effective for their intended purpose. Better to rely upon proper defensive actions rather than a false sense of security with a backpack. If there is a shooting incident in the future where these actually help anybody then I may change my mind but for now they are unproven as an effective defense.
I would assume they are way over priced and they will only protect a small part of the body. I agree with DOH, profit from fear.
Getting rid of guns? How make them illegal? Like drugs are illegal? And nobody can get drugs…
If they tried to make guns illegal, the only people with guns would be military, police, and criminals. How would law abiding citizens protect themselves? It’s not the gun, it is the PERSON using the gun. Guns don’t kill people, people kill people.
WHOA !!!
Only available at BullsEye School Supply
My kids can look out for themselves – I want one for me!
Sure, why not? And at recess they can play well regulated militia, And misfire clearance drills for extra credit. This is ‘effing madness.
As soon as my current backpack falls apart, I may consider getting a bulletproof backpack, along with a bulletproof bike helmet, and bulletproof vest. f#$%, this insanity never ends. I guess, only the paranoid will survive.
I carried one with me all through middle school. I’m in high school now and don’t use it, they are too heavy.
It takes one seriously screwed up society to get to the point where parents are actually buying bulletproof backpacks for their kid to take to school.
We have an agitated violent society that is getting worse everyday.
I am concerned there is no leadership to work on gun control, We need to fix this.
NO.
Unintended consequences….I just have to think that this would lead to something stupid, like kids testing them out after school and accidentally killing their friend.
“Bullet Proof” is a misnomer. Anything can be penetrated with some type of projectile.
The proper term ins “Bullet Resistant”.
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