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The Water Cooler – Homes with A Horrible History – Would You Live In One?

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The “Water Cooler Chat” will be a new feature on CLAYCORD.com. We will ask you a question or provide a topic, and you will talk about it.

The “Water Cooler” will be up Monday-Friday at noon.

Today’s question:

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QUESTION: Would you purchase (and live in) a home where somebody committed suicide or was murdered?

Talk about it….

34 comments


Simonpure October 27, 2020 - 12:07 PM - 12:07 PM

I don’t see why not. Many probably already do and just don’t know it.

Puffandstuff October 27, 2020 - 12:09 PM - 12:09 PM

Nope

Dawg October 27, 2020 - 12:18 PM - 12:18 PM

Sure, why not? I don’t know the history of my home, except that an elderly person lived there before me, and for all I know he or she could have committed suicide or was murdered.
I have a friend in San Francisco who bought an old Victorian house in the 70’s and there is a story about a young woman in the 1920’s that was murdered by her boyfriend. I spent the night there once and I woke up in the middle of the night and saw a young woman in a white nightgown standing in front of the window stretching her arms and yawning, then she disappeared. Was I dreaming, or did I really see it? I believe I was wide awake and really saw it.
I later found out from a neighbor that the young woman was murdered while she was standing in front of that same window.

Hanne Jeppesen October 27, 2020 - 3:38 PM - 3:38 PM

Dawg, Perhaps under the influence of some mind altering drugs, ha, ha. It was San Francisco and the seventies after all.

Dawg October 27, 2020 - 4:05 PM - 4:05 PM

Hanne, My friend bought the house in the 70’s, the night I stayed over was in the late 80’s, by that time my rowdy life had mellowed out.

Hanne Jeppesen October 27, 2020 - 12:21 PM - 12:21 PM

Depends what a horrible history means. Does it mean if someone died, or does it mean there were a horrible crime and several people were murdered.
I would not have a problem with buying a house/condo where someone died. However, if I was told 1 person died, 1 or more died under mysterious circumstances, and there were robberies as well, I most likely would not, seems like the property is jinxed.

Ricardoh October 27, 2020 - 12:26 PM - 12:26 PM

I am now.

Ilovepopcorn October 28, 2020 - 12:50 AM - 12:50 AM

No! I am very superstitious. It would give me nightmares.

Martinezmike October 27, 2020 - 12:28 PM - 12:28 PM

Haunted houses don’t scare me. They’re motar, stone, and wood.

Kentucky Derby October 27, 2020 - 12:39 PM - 12:39 PM

No, I wouldn’t. In most states murder and suicide has to be disclosed when the property is sold. In California, any death has to be disclosed within the last three years.

The Fearless Spectator October 27, 2020 - 2:10 PM - 2:10 PM

In California, that is one of the rules that is generally ignored.

Simonpure October 27, 2020 - 2:32 PM - 2:32 PM

My house document states that it cannot be sold to people of color. One would think they would update it by now.

Roz October 27, 2020 - 3:35 PM - 3:35 PM

@ Simonpure~
The same with document(s) for our house too. we were really surprised when we found out about it years ago. Our neighborhood is one big melting pot now,… 🙂

Just_My_Two_Cents October 27, 2020 - 12:47 PM - 12:47 PM

I live in a house that had 3 owners. The first husband died – wife remarried and moved away. The second husband died – wife remarried and moved away. Third husband died – I’m still there. (Husbands did not die in the house) I figure that I should like my home with a divorce attorney. That way the wife would get everything.

JazzMan October 27, 2020 - 2:00 PM - 2:00 PM

Nailed it! So true.

Exit 12A October 27, 2020 - 2:34 PM - 2:34 PM

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In California, home sellers are required to disclose to potential buyers if anyone died in the residence if within the last 36 months? The seller must also disclose any known death in the home if the buyer asks.
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The Fearless Spectator October 28, 2020 - 1:13 PM - 1:13 PM

This law is frequently ignored, they don’t want to scare off superstitious potential buyers.

foonman October 27, 2020 - 2:52 PM - 2:52 PM

Its all foolishness, none of us is going to get out of this alive…if the house suited me and family, I see no problem.

Jeff October 27, 2020 - 3:38 PM - 3:38 PM

I would, wife wouldn’t, so, no.

Kentucky Derby October 27, 2020 - 4:09 PM - 4:09 PM

For those who would buy a house where someone was murdered. What if there hasn’t been an arrest, and they come back to the house? You never know who the murderers are, or why they murdered someone at that house. There’s a reason “stigmatized properties” sell for a lot less. No one has mentioned they’d buy the house for less. You’d buy it anyway.

an iota of maturity October 27, 2020 - 4:26 PM - 4:26 PM

I ain’t afraid of no ghost!

Seriously? Something or someone probably died everywhere humans and animals exist or existed. So, you probably already do

It isn’t the dead that are scary, it’s the living.

Leeland October 28, 2020 - 1:00 PM - 1:00 PM

Amen to that.

Ancient Mariner October 27, 2020 - 6:19 PM - 6:19 PM

When I was a little kid I lived in a farmhouse built in the early 1700s. You know people had to have died there. If you live in an old city you have centuries of history and centuries of deaths and other horrors. So it wouldn’t bother me to live in a house where someone had died.
On the other hand, Kentucky Derby’s point about an unsolved murder is valid – suppose a criminal had stashed something in the wall and had sheet-rocked it and painted it so no-one would know it was there. Or in the crawl-space. And suppose he gets out of prison and comes to your house to get it back.
In short: ghosts yes, criminal activity no.

Leeland October 28, 2020 - 1:01 PM - 1:01 PM

You watch too much TV

an iota of maturity October 30, 2020 - 12:56 PM - 12:56 PM

Too much TV. Yep.

Lizzee October 27, 2020 - 6:20 PM - 6:20 PM

The older the house, the higher the odds that someone died in it at some point in history. Most of the houses in the Bay Area are 30+ years old. Ours is newer than most of what we looked at and is still approaching 60 years old. Someone probably did die in ours at one point. *shrug*

Unless you’re buying brand new construction–and that’s still no guarantee– you’re probably going to have some kind of death associated with it. Personally, aside from a drive-by or a neighbor killing the previous occupant, I wouldn’t worry about a house’s history too much.

Silva October 27, 2020 - 8:10 PM - 8:10 PM

I wouldn’t rule it out. Might have already. I don’t know. There isn’t much a good smudging and a couple of nice parties won’t fix.

KenInConcord October 27, 2020 - 8:24 PM - 8:24 PM

How about the house the Helzer Brothers lived in across from the pavilion? Two murdered and two others “disposed of” in the house….

FPN October 28, 2020 - 10:14 AM - 10:14 AM

I was thinking about the Heltzer home also. Someone is living in that house. Hope they got it cheap.

an iota of maturity October 30, 2020 - 1:29 PM - 1:29 PM

Again, the dead isn’t the problem the living brothers were.

I’m not sure why people believe in ghosts when they are more likely to be bothered by a living creepy or annoying neighbor.

And even if ghost were real, and they are not, why don’t you pray and tell it to “go into the light” or whatever?

Get a couple of big dogs if you are worried about former residents. Install an alarm system. Studying skepticism might be more useful than worrying about the dead haunting you as a lingering poltergeist.

I had a friend who was looking for an apt. My landlord at the time liked renting to people who good tenants would vouch for. I made the mistake of telling her that unit was the nicest in the building because some guy died in there smoking in bed. Cheap, good location, and remodeled and the thing that made them not take it was “oh, someone died in there”.

And then there was the neighbor that said she saw ghost trains where an old commuter line used to be. They also were consulting a psychic while being poor. Both were nice people except for believing in nonsense that limited their lives in different ways.

It is easier to convince people of absurdities than it is to talk them out of it.

Dr. Jellyfinger October 27, 2020 - 9:05 PM - 9:05 PM

If you want to find out if a house is haunted put a hocost on the kitchen table and leave for a few hours.

Mimi (original) October 30, 2020 - 10:00 AM - 10:00 AM

What’s a hocost? I’m going to have to look that up! Also, apparently I haven’t been in Claycord long enough to know about the Helzer/Heltzer home, I’m going to have to look that one up, too!! Twenty-four years in Claycord and I’m still a newbie!!

Sandy G. October 27, 2020 - 9:59 PM - 9:59 PM

My mom died at home
We had to disclose it in the list of amenities just like it had three bedroom and two bathrooms.

jjshawk October 28, 2020 - 12:34 AM - 12:34 AM

Sure, if the price is right. I wouldn’t put too much stock in a home’s history, as it will be remodeled to my liking anyways.


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