California Teachers Association: Nearly 2/3 Of State’s Parents Uncomfortable With In-Person Classes

October 16, 2020 14:00 pm · 101 comments

Nearly two-thirds of California parents are uncomfortable sending their children to in-person classes and do not believe schools will be sufficiently safe, according to a poll released Thursday by the California Teachers Association.

The poll, conducted in September by the Washington D.C.-based polling firm Hart Research Associates, asked 1,257 voters in the state and 527 parents of public-school students for their feelings about California’s coronavirus pandemic reopening process and the resumption of in-person classes in some areas of the state.

Approximately eight out of 10 voters in the state believe the pandemic is still a serious problem, with a 54 percent majority believing the worst of the pandemic is still on the horizon.

With that in mind, 62 percent of parents said they would not be comfortable sending their children to school now.

In addition, 65 percent of parents said they are not confident in their school’s safety right now and 67 percent said they were not confident their school would be safe by November.

Dr. Robert Harrison, an occupational health specialist and clinical professor at the University of California San Francisco, said it’s inevitable that schools will have coronavirus outbreaks as more reopen across the state.

We have to be prepared to both protect and respond immediately with contact tracing, testing and notification, he said Thursday during a virtual news conference to release the poll’s results.

We know that from experiences worldwide and from many other states around the country that have seen infections and outbreaks and school closures, Harrison said.

Gov. Gavin Newsom and state public education officials announced earlier this year that the pandemic would force public schools to remain closed from March through the end of the 2019-2020 school year.

In addition, schools that sit within counties that are in the most restrictive section of the state’s tiered reopening system were required to begin the 2020-2021 school year fully online.

As of Tuesday, only 10 counties remained in that most restrictive tier.

CTA President E. Toby Boyd argued that a large swath of the state’s public schools are ill-equipped to safely reopen while the pandemic is still a threat, even if they are in a county that has reduced the virus’ spread.

Our schools are antiquated, he said.

A lot of them are old and they don’t have the necessary filtration with the ventilation, they don’t have the space for the students to go, they don’t have the health people in place in order to make sure they properly contact trace new cases.

Supermajorities of voters and parents both agreed that schools should take multiple essential steps before resuming in-person classes, such as daily deep cleaning and sanitization of school facilities and buses,
face mask requirements and reductions in class size.

Roughly 80 percent of voters and parents also agreed that the state’s public schools do not have the funding to handle a problem of the pandemic’s scale.

This is a virus that needs to be taken really seriously, Harrison said.

According to Hart Research President Geoff Garin, the poll was conducted online with participant quotas set in an effort to match the state’s population of voters and parents.

The survey of voters had a margin of error of 3 percent while the survey of parents had a 4.5 percent margin of error, Garin said.

bdml October 16, 2020 at 2:05 PM

Did they poll all of the parents in Calif? There’s no way this is accurate just look at the comments on this board alone.

Adam October 16, 2020 at 2:32 PM

This is a Democratic and liberal think tank in DC. Their polls are deceptive, biased, and don’t mean anything!!

Mike October 16, 2020 at 2:33 PM

I’ve found that those who want to return to in person school represent a very vocal minority.

Concord mom October 16, 2020 at 2:38 PM

What kind of science is that? If you look at any review, yelp, Amazon, whatever, people are more likely to post a review when they have a complaint, not when they’re satisfied or happy. People complaining on this board is exactly that, just people complaining. I would suspect those who except the status have no reason or desire to post anything.

bdml October 16, 2020 at 3:03 PM

@ Mike

I have found that those who want to maintain distance learning are a vocal minority…so what’s your point?

Bill October 18, 2020 at 9:31 PM

@bdml,
Polls don’t go by who logs in and makes a comment. That would not get you very far. Pollsters do have a protocol they follow for getting as unbiased polls as possible. Maybe the poll can still be biased, but pointing out a small sample of people who comment on this site is not going to prove anything.

Bob October 16, 2020 at 2:28 PM

The twist is, they only asked three parents

parent October 16, 2020 at 2:29 PM

So roughly 527 parents speak for the entire population of students in this state …

And who paid for this study? CTA by chance? Cause we have seen recommendations from other ‘respected’ groups that say kids needs to be in school and it safe for them to be in school. Think the Pediatric Association.

So do we believe Doctors of medicine about a medical event, or do we listen to a group of teachers promoting BLM?

Bill October 18, 2020 at 9:33 PM

It is easy for you then, go out and poll all the parents and see who comes up with a better number for you.

Adam October 16, 2020 at 2:35 PM

The Mt Diablo Unified has emailed all parents requesting their opinions on re-openings, and I am sure most school districts in the state have done the same thing, but we don’t see the result of those surveys!!

Baloo October 16, 2020 at 3:25 PM

Survey results regarding this topic were reviewed towards the end of the MDUSD recorded meeting posted by claycord a week or 2 ago. I assume they are posted some where.

The Grant October 16, 2020 at 3:38 PM

MDUSD showed the polling results last week at their online meeting of teachers within the district.

Link was on Claycord.

72% of teachers want in-person instruction.

Kelly October 16, 2020 at 3:48 PM

Actually MDUSD shared the results of their survey and 66% of parents said they would send their child back (in a hybrid model, they didn’t ask about full time). And 69% of teachers said they would return to work onsite. I have screenshots of it from the MDUSD board meeting last week but don’t see a way to attach images here.

Baloo October 16, 2020 at 4:06 PM
Tomato Girl October 16, 2020 at 2:38 PM

What a bunch of BS ! 8 out of 10 parents think it’s not safe for kids to go back to in person learning? Who even believes polls anyways ? I’m so glad we are leaving this state in the spring. Good riddance

Bagpuss October 16, 2020 at 5:33 PM

You will not be alone. It comes down to economics, makes no sense to stay. Throw in someone is going to have to pay for Newsomes messes and its can only get worse!

Fewer tax payers, the higher the burden, not sure some people are understanding that!

MikeyV October 16, 2020 at 2:46 PM

Complete and utter lies. The Teacher’s Union is just like any other union.
Full of crap and out for themselves.

I don’t know ANYONE who is uncomfortable with having their kids back in school. Mine have been in afterschool care and daycare this whole time.

Also, and this is NO LIE. I do not personally know one single person who had confirmed COVID.
Some pandemic.

Snickerdad October 16, 2020 at 4:53 PM

MIKEYV,
In my life time (I’m 72yo) I have belonged to two Unions, The IBEW, when theres a wild fire or a hurricane the electricity works are right on the seen.
The other union I belonged to was the IAM.
Three day after 9/11 we had aircraft back in the air.
Doing our jobs.
So would someone tell me whats wrong with the teachers union.
JUST ASKING !

S October 16, 2020 at 5:25 PM

Snicker…

Those who can do / Those who can’t teach

???

Marine One October 16, 2020 at 2:50 PM

I call BS on this poll. The Teacher Association is full of crap. I demand my kids get back to in person classes. There are a lot of us going to work, shopping and even going on vacation. My work and I know if others, that require a temperature check before you can step foot into the work place. Why can’t this be done at the schools. Why can’t the kids clean there own classroom twice a day to keep it clean. My kids sanitize our house at least once a day why me and my Wife are at work. Enough of the BS coming from the County Health Department and especially the BS from the so call Governor.

Commonsensenor October 16, 2020 at 2:52 PM

Reminds me of the 2016 poll that had Hillary at 92% and Trump at 8%. Absolute BS.

The Masked (and gloved) Poster October 16, 2020 at 3:51 PM

Commonsensenor, you seem to forget that Hillary won the popular vote by 3,000,000 votes; it was the electoral college that put Trump in office.

Commonsensenor October 16, 2020 at 3:58 PM

Yes, thanks for that reminder. I know all of us are thanking God that we have the Electoral College in place, especially now with all the facts coming to light about the Obama/Hillary Russia hoax, fake Steele documents, FISA warrants, FBI corruption, and a lil sprinkle of Biden and his son for good measure. Wonder why they want Trump out of office?

Sam October 16, 2020 at 4:13 PM

Good thing it’s not a popularity contest. To bad so sad. The electoral college is rigged for democrats and you still lost. Hillary Clinton is the most hated woman in the world. Hunter Biden’s emails showing he has to split half the take with pops will seal your fate. 3.5 million from Russia. 10 million a year from China..lol democrats will never taste power again. With 4 Nobel peace prize nominations in the last year Trump would easily win president of the world. We will measure your tears by the foot on November 4th😂😂

Ash October 16, 2020 at 3:08 PM

the unions control the dems, the dems seem to be afraid of covid, because they want to state to take care of them, which if course it will be willing to do, after they take away all your freedoms under the guise of protecting you, anyway just silly to ask those brainwashing children to be afraid if they are in fact afraid.

see twilight zone (original), outer limits, etc.
live free or…

?crickets?
founding fathers wondering why they even tried 🙁

Chicken Little October 16, 2020 at 3:19 PM

Poll question: Are you stupid enough to send your precious little child into a virus-infested petri dish of a classroom in the middle of a global pandemic, even though they are virtually guaranteed to contract a horrible deadly disease?

Polls can be made to say whatever the pollster wants.

Noj October 16, 2020 at 6:49 PM

Then give us our tax money back. All of it.

Splodey head in 3…2…1…

Winnie The Pooh October 16, 2020 at 3:22 PM

I’m a voter and I’m a parent to three kids, I was never asked how I felt about schools reopening. Besides if those who don’t feel comfortable sending there kids back then great, it makes the class sizes smaller for our over crowded school districts. At the end of the day however, it sounds like maybe it’s an excuse for CA not to open up schools.

Sam October 16, 2020 at 3:23 PM

This is all part of “The Great Reset”. The World Economic Forum has decided to use the COVID hoax to bring in the New World Order. When you understand that, you will understand what is happening all around you. COVID-21 is planned for early next year. Your schools will never be the same. Trump and Biden is just a distraction. As is everything else. There will be plenty of electricity for everything in California once most of us are gone. Stand by for your stimulus and unemployment.

Outsider October 17, 2020 at 9:42 AM

For some reason, there is some sense in what you say, despite there being no concrete proof whatsoever. Fun idea to ponder on, gives me something to delve in during these times.

Sam October 17, 2020 at 7:02 PM

Here’s a crumb.
In this article Klaus Schwab, Founder and Executive Chairman of World Economic Forum, argues that the long term economic consequences of the pandemic will exacerbate the climate and social crises that were already underway and this will make more urgent the “great reset” of our economic and social systems.

Ricardoh October 16, 2020 at 3:30 PM

CCC health says all kids can go back to school. If you now want to find out what the chinese virus is doing in the county you have to hunt for information. No one in the county under thirty has died from this plague. Old teachers find some other work for awhile and open the schools.

Sancho Panza October 16, 2020 at 5:05 PM

You’re right, Ricardoh, you have to hunt for information…just watched the Contra Costa Health Covid-19 Ad-hoc meeting 10/15/20 and County Superintendent of school Lynn Mackey said 27 schools are now open in-person instruction with the waiver (parochial, private and charter schools) but it is up to the Boards to decide about their openings under this tier. It is the teachers unions negotiations that are holding the openings up, that the guidance is there. And the clincher is—MDUSD has decided to wait until we are in the yellow! I sure feel for the children who are being robbed of their education and mental/physical well-being…

ZZ October 16, 2020 at 7:49 PM

Oh and did you know that MDUSD have a STUDENT Board member now? So now we have a kid as part of the decision making? Oh that’s right, she’s just representing the students, but she’s a Board Member.

Sancho Pamza October 17, 2020 at 12:54 PM

@ZZ~That’s interesting about a student being on MDUSD Board. I went to the website but that board member is not included:
https://www.mdusd.org/pf4/cms2/view_page?d=x&group_id=1516177889820&vdid=3i4a1rmioa2ykn

S October 17, 2020 at 1:58 PM

Student Members have only an advisory only vote… Usually just to share a student(s) based opinion with the Board… It is a great opportunity for a student, but in the end the adult “elected official” Board Members will vote what they want to vote.

Many schools districts have student board members….

Concordville October 16, 2020 at 3:46 PM

This has got to be distorted, and certainly does not represent the private school community where I work, where only between 10-15% of families are opting to remain full time distance learning and 85–90% are opting for on-campus attendance. I expect they used “leading the witness” polling questions to get the result they wanted (and/or counted all answers other than “100% confident” as “uncomfortable”.

The 85-90% at my school opting for in-person learning have a range of comfort levels, but have weighed the risks and benefits of the options and concluded the benefits of in-person learning for their children far outweigh its risks for their families.

Students are so burned out on online learning, and so many are struggling with depression, certainly from lack in-person socialization but who knows what so many more hours of screen time are doing to their psyches as well?.

RANDOM TASK October 16, 2020 at 3:49 PM

Wow it’s like you have not been living under the same liberal socialist child abusing regime

This is the first salvo of a special Covid schools opening tax
NExt will be a panel of how much of a tax increase will cover reopening of the schools
Followed by open forum
And probably a study
Then the cccboard declaring an emergency closed door meeting
Followed by a statement from the furor newscum
Then followed by a teacher union discussion
As well as the state demanding the fed pay for it ……or tax payers will have to
Then a proposed amount
Then a demand for the tax and an increase as they find the classrooms are in dire need of repairs
Yet another estimate
And in the end
You will not get a vote
The gov will abide by the unions needs and push forward a emergency Covid bond measure
The gov will sign it and we will be on the hook for 3 billion dollars to open the schools
As well as the regular taxation

This is what this whole thing has been about
Paying the unions

Again you have voted for people to screw you over

Wow

Led October 16, 2020 at 3:55 PM

Let’s see a poll not funded by the teachers unions. If this whole thing doesn’t open people’s eyes to what public sector unions are really all about, nothing will.

It’s okay, everyone’s leaving this wonderful but awfully-governed state anyway! There won’t be enough tax revenue to find the already precarious pension fund. London Breed just came out with a pro-opening schools statement. You know the fiscal writing is on the wall when an SF mayor is willing to disagree so publicly with school administrators and the unions.

woody October 16, 2020 at 4:02 PM

There is a portion of the population that is very susceptible to this disease.
Older with complication. If keeping my kids out of school keeps MY parents and YOUR parents from catching it GREAT! See you in spring.

Bugpuss October 16, 2020 at 5:29 PM

Keep them indoors, why punish the kids?

The Wizzard October 16, 2020 at 4:11 PM

A bunch of BS. Open up the damn schools now.

C October 16, 2020 at 4:17 PM

How bout we take the “Political Debate” out of this and justice worry about the education of our children. Parents should be able to decide if they want their child to return to school because their “education” is being affected in a negative way. If you don’t feel comfortable sending your child back….don’t. All this debate about who’s politically right makes us sound as dumb as the 2
children that debated on tv and are running for office. Let’s support MDUSD on coming up with a plan to get the kids that need to be back in school back in. What can we do as parents to support some type of reopen. If the teacher doesn’t want to return they can call in sick and take it up with the Union. That’s what the Union is for. Support Our Children!

Celophane October 16, 2020 at 4:21 PM

Polls used to mean something.

Now they’re contrived to meet the needs of the pollster.

Figures don’t lie but liars figure.

Singledout October 16, 2020 at 4:30 PM

Yawn…how absolutely boring yacky yack…

Embrace the future people this is how it will be for years to come better get used to home schooling your kids.

Complain all you want nothing gonna change..

Bagpuss October 16, 2020 at 5:08 PM

Yes it will, people are sick of this! Movements start from a few, before you know it India has its independence, peaceful protest in numbers works, we the people have the power, we just forget it!

Bagpuss October 16, 2020 at 5:08 PM

Yes it will, people are sick of this! Movements start from a few, before you know it India has its independence, peaceful protest in numbers works, we the people have the power, we just forget it!

Jeff October 16, 2020 at 4:36 PM

A private school in Lafayette is opening, phased in by grades. With few exceptions all of the kids will be returning on a modified schedule, just a few want to remain on distance learning.

108RS

an iota of maturity October 16, 2020 at 4:40 PM

There will be a vaccine. Wouldn’t it suck if the schools open and some get sick and die just because waiting a few more months for a vaccine is too cautious?

SB October 16, 2020 at 4:47 PM

No. Kids are not spreading the way adults do. Kids are not affected the same way. Hundreds of thousands of children have not been to school in seven months. Sitting around waiting for a cure is lost time, lost education, lost development, and loss of purpose. Kids are in school in private and parochial schools all over, and it works fine if you follow safety rules. Public schools are closed because teachers are creating a climate of fear.

Sam October 16, 2020 at 4:47 PM

There will never be a vaccine. The imaginary virus has not been isolated. The CDC has ZERO evidence it even exists. There is no way anyone is working on a vaccine if they don’t have a virus.

Led October 16, 2020 at 4:50 PM

You act as if there are no health impacts to kids missing school for months and months. They are just harder to measure and longer-term, not less real.

Sam October 16, 2020 at 4:41 PM

Nothing proves the intelligence of the average wannabe academic poster like pretending you don’t know how statistics are used to manipulate any outcome you want.
How to Lie with Statistics is a book written by Darrell Huff in 1954 presenting an introduction to statistics for the general reader. Not a statistician, Huff was a journalist.
See how this works?

SB October 16, 2020 at 4:44 PM

Self-serving garbage. No parent wants their kids at home anymore. Mine are in the AUHSD, which is not going back until January despite months to prepare and overwhelming support from parents to return. I have lost all respect for teachers’ unions, which are destroying our kids’ education with paranoia and misinformation. Teachers are essential; get back to class!

chuckie the troll October 16, 2020 at 4:55 PM

Well, and here I thought that Liberals were all for choice…Kill your baby, cut off or otherwise adjust your genitalia, riot…but not allow children to attend classes in person? Might as well attend one of the really good online Charter School or Homeschool programs instead. At least the students would be subject to less far-Left indoctrination!

Bagpuss October 16, 2020 at 5:04 PM

They have no shame at all! In MDUSD alone nearly 70% of both teachers and parents want to return. That is not me saying that, thats the results of the survey they had, open to all parents and high schoolers.

Its shameful that they are only starting to look at a plan next week, what the heck!

The Board should all be fired, they’re not doing the job, kids, teachers and parents are suffering damage!

Lots of people are going to look back and see what they did was so wrong, border line criminal

Sam October 16, 2020 at 5:26 PM

MDUSD is run by academic cultural marxists. Always has been. They are driven by extremist ideology like Isis. They care more about their perceived culture war than your children. This is fact. The funny thing is your western nuclear family is one of their main targets. That is why as parents, “The School” attempts to undermine you or your beliefs and authority at every turn.

Truth October 16, 2020 at 10:16 PM

@Sam Ha! I think they represent my family’s safety quite well as a matter of fact. I also find it very pleasing that they don’t bend to opinions like yours where you blindly throw around words that you clearly have no vocabulary or knowledge for. Get lost!

Sam October 17, 2020 at 12:52 AM

“blindly throw around words that you clearly have no vocabulary or knowledge for“
So because you don’t understand what I said you tried to insult me with that line? I’m not blind to anything. Your ignorance is why you don’t understand. Deal with it.
On the other hand, I’m pleased to know it works for someone. I will not be getting lost.

To Do List October 17, 2020 at 8:39 AM

Mr. Truth: Do you have kids in school and do you talk to them? My high schooler’s recent assignments include watching a podcast on White Supremacy, writing a paper on Jessie Jackson, writing another paper on why the BLM activists are similar to the US founding fathers and their violence in opposing the British, and readings on the Virginia Slave laws. Something is wrong. Something is very wrong. That is not material to teach but to indoctrinate into a way of thinking. Especially the BLM paper, which is clearly to manipulate the student into elevating the actions of BLM at the expense of trying to tear down the reputation of some very great men who created a country. Is Jefferson to be thought of as on the same level as a looter in Broadway Plaza with his shopping bag stuffed with clothing from Macys? I would call this indoctrination. Please talk to your kids and find out what they are learning. And on a side note, I know very little about Cultural Marxism except two things: One is that there is a massive anti- and disinformation campaign against them as judged by a Google search to find out about them, and two they describe a society-wide movement to undermine the reputation and power of the current political and economic system and its rather obvious that they are right about that one.

SGJ October 16, 2020 at 5:28 PM

This cannot be true – it its the unions skewed perspective. Every single parent i know wants their kids to go back to school in person. These poor kids are going to lose years of their lives and education over the flu – which has been very mild for everyone under 17.
All the teachers should be fired!!!

Mika October 16, 2020 at 5:53 PM

Misleading article. 2/3 of California parents are not represented by just 1,200 people polled. No way does that small sample represent the state’s parents.

Sam October 16, 2020 at 6:06 PM

How to Lie with Statistics is a book written by Darrell Huff in 1954 presenting an introduction to statistics for the general reader. Not a statistician, Huff was a journalist.

The news is fake, the war is real

Worried October 16, 2020 at 6:02 PM

Send the kids back to school open everything up let’s get back to life as normal whatever happens happens stop being such a bunch of cry babies safety where safety is due but let’s get on with life this is ridiculous

Soon to be ex-Californian October 16, 2020 at 6:19 PM

They probably got the results they wanted by asking loaded questions.

While public schools remained closed, many private schools received waivers and it seems like only about 15-20% opt to remain distant learners.

I talked to a friend who works for an EdTech startup that works with both private and public schools and he said that from their research that’s about the number that would not actually send their kids in person if schools were to reopen.

It’s obvious that Teacher’s Unions are holding the kids hostage to get more out of Newsom, and Newsom is holding us hostage to get what he asked Pelosi to get out of Trump.

Hey you October 16, 2020 at 6:24 PM

A bunch of shenanigans running the show!!!! I’d love to know where my tax dollars really go…..I’m sure all the reserve funding has been allocated to something useless… meanwhile we have no money to open the schools safely in our district. So sad…SMH

Never Enough October 16, 2020 at 7:44 PM

Actually the schools did receive funding to open.

MDUSD got 25 million just for this year.

Sam October 16, 2020 at 8:00 PM

Audit MDUSD.

Ruby October 16, 2020 at 9:55 PM

@Never Enough LMAO WHERE DID YOU HEAR THAT?! Sources now!

Sam October 17, 2020 at 1:23 AM

Oh Ruby
You demand sources. That’s cute. The money came from Big Daddy Trump as part of the Cares act signed in March. What the governor or MDUSD did with it is the question you should be asking. If I had to guess, part of it was spent on the numerous large campus construction projects that took place over the last 8 months. The rest probably went to race theory training.

“WHERE DID YOU HEAR THAT?” You should know some people don’t hear things, they read things. Facebook will only get you so far in life

Never Enough October 17, 2020 at 7:22 AM

Interesting that people didn’t.t know that schools for millions. It was even reported in Patch. They have a database and you put in the district and it tells you to the penny how much they got .

Mount Diablo got 25 million. It breaks it down by Cares Act funding and additional state funding.

Maybe next time read the news before you say someone is lying,

Michael October 16, 2020 at 7:54 PM

Survey was flawed. Overall Parent population does not address parents wanting younger students especially elementary back in school. Survey should be by grade level or school level.

Comifornia October 16, 2020 at 8:39 PM

Absolutely ridiculous, my kids have been back to preschool for 3 months, they all take their precautions and there are no problems. Also I work at a hospital, there has not been some overwhelming surge, no over the top death rate. 1.5 million people die of tuberculosis every year, it’s transmitted the same way!

Cracky October 17, 2020 at 9:20 PM

A friend works at a local hospital and has sent me pictures DAILY documenting the empty emergency room and laboratories. Bored medical staff are just waiting for something to do. Ridiculous. Don’t believe all the drama news stories.

Ruby October 16, 2020 at 9:53 PM

Y’all are dumb as bricks if you think teachers are contractually obligated to get sick or expose their families just because you can’t be at home with your precious kiddos anymore. We are in full distance learning and kids are still getting Covid because of idiot parents not taking it seriously! Sorry but this is a PANDEMIC. Not a game, not a hoax, not a vacation. Do your jobs as parents and be thankful your kid isn’t dead.

Sam October 17, 2020 at 1:05 AM

Here’s how brainwashed you all are. Nobody even bothered to ask for evidence of a virus. As per the CDCs website, they have NOT isolated the virus. They have never seen the virus, and have ZERO evidence it exists. The world was locked down for the common cold. You people need to start asking real questions, reading the CDC website and thinking for yourselves.
No kids are getting Covid because it doesn’t exist. It’s not real. “Be thankful your kid isn’t DEAD“ Ruby says. Nothing like a little DEAD KIDS to sell your point. Not a game?…C’mon man
https://www.fda.gov/media/134922/download
Page 39, last paragraph, 2nd sentence.

Denamill October 17, 2020 at 5:44 AM

Yeah so parents are still paying taxes (supposed to be for public school) and still working full time jobs and they’re supposed to teach their children?? This whole system is put on the parents who still have their own jobs too they cant just babysit their kid the whole day.. plus zoom is creepy but that’s the new normal, everyone on camera, no real life interaction, totally normal..

Never Enough October 17, 2020 at 9:16 AM

Ruby here is what everyone will remember, that teachers are NOT essential workers by their own choice. When everyone stepped up, nurses, doctors, firemen, police . . . Teachers failed the community!

Bill October 18, 2020 at 9:48 PM

@Sam,
The virus is real. I know people working on the genomics of it, so, are they working on imaginary ideas? lol.
You are brainwashed the other way, to not believe anything unless it tickles your brain just right. Maybe your half full box of rocks needs some additional rocks?

Truth October 16, 2020 at 10:10 PM

Whelp, guess that means that the minority which are “whiners”, are what is present in these threads. Just like I thought.

anon October 16, 2020 at 11:01 PM

My personal experience talking to parents and people in my job is that most parents want to send their kids back to school, probably about 9/10.

As for me, I know I would have been happier doing 90% of my schoolwork from home, typing away on a laptop, probably done before noon like I hear many children are able to pull off without all the distractions and dullards of the classroom. Would I have missed my friends also? Yes.

anon October 16, 2020 at 11:04 PM

Additional, teachers are overpayed, underworked babies at the end of the day. They want to keep getting full wages for putting in a half days work from home, in their underwear, while drinking heavily.

The poor lady at Walmart selling you your groceries sees 10 to 100 times the infection potential, yet makes under 40k a year. Teachers want their cake, they want to eat it too, and they want more cake with better frosting for less work.

TPC October 17, 2020 at 9:21 PM

On what planet are teachers overpaid? In what line of work are you, and on what merit do you have to make such a remark?

ConcordRes2 October 17, 2020 at 6:08 AM

So I guess we can ignore reality but now that have history with states who have opened their schools like New York who had a major jump in infection and closed 160 schools. We can’t say kids don’t get that sick because we know they make the people around them sick, parents, grandparents, aunts and uncles and they die. But sure let’s turn a blind eye to facts not care about teachers and send the kids back to school.

bdml October 18, 2020 at 7:26 AM

So then by your logic the millions of essential workers don’t matter right…

Kauai Mike October 17, 2020 at 7:17 AM

The pandemic has exposed the stupidity of continuing the status quo in ‘education’.

Who needs ten thousand mediocre in-person teachers when one qualified individual can teach the same students online?

Parents need to find other baby sitters on their own dime.

Tugboat October 17, 2020 at 7:29 AM

The fact is, our children are suffering. They are locked at home trying to learn from a computer screen. It seems that many do not learn well in this scenario. The problem seems to be that teachers, and their union seem to believe they are more vulnerable to the virus than medical workers, grocery clerks, airline employees, and food handlers. The fact is, risk is associated to living.

We can choose to live, or we can crawl in a hole and wait to die. This problem with teachers appears to be more about union negotiating positions than anything else. FOR ONCE, THINK OF OUR CHILDREN.

just me October 18, 2020 at 10:50 AM

Children are suffering. Not just with education, but with their mental health as well. Liks need to be around their friends. This isolation is the same thing as putting them in solitary confinment. It is worse for kids without siblings, they are lonely and bored. This is keeping them hooked on the computer and technology. If this keeps up, will the kids know how to relate to people? Isolation and depravation. Seven months in the hole. This is cruel and unusual punishment for a crime they did not commit. I feel for the kids that don’t have siblings and the parents work. They have no human contact all day. It is torture.
My child has always received good grades. This quarter F, F, D, B, B, C. One of the F’s in PE. He could lie like most other kids are doing on their PE logs, but he won’t do that. He does not get in trouble at school, does not cut classes, and does not do well distance learning. It would be nice if the teachers were actually online in the meeting with the students for the whole period, but they are only there half of the period. The kids are on their own the other half. The teachers have let the kids get away with not having the camera on without bringing it to the parents attention until a week before the end of the first quarter.

WhoDat Gurl October 17, 2020 at 4:53 PM

FACT: The very liberal-minded Academy of Pediatrics soundly agreed that children should return to in-person school. Physicians, with deep knowledge of infectious diseases and how children fare when exposed, said GO BACK TO SCHOOL.

The next time I see anything even remotely reasonable coming out of CTA will be the FIRST.

GO BACK TO SCHOOL!!

Caskydiver October 17, 2020 at 5:15 PM

I dont trust anything the CA Teachers Union says. What a bunch of BULL.

TPC October 17, 2020 at 9:14 PM

School for your children is not day care. It is an education. Now that lessons are being done remotely, the truth comes out.

just me October 18, 2020 at 11:15 AM

Do you even have kids that are distance learning? You are right, school is not day care. But teachers are paid from public tax dollars to teach our children. The government made attending school mandatory. Compulsory education. It should be an education but it’s more like indoctrination.
Lessons being done remotely? The truth came out, teachers are only online for half of the class time.
How does a teacher keep an elementary age child engaged enough to sit in front of a screen, paying attention so they can do their lessons remotely?? They can’t. The parent has to make sure that happens. Parents have jobs and other kids. How can one parent keep three kids, in three different grades focused on their own screen at the same time? What about the kids who rely on school lunches? How do they keep the kids in front of the screen and pick up their lunch? The kids that get free lunches usually have the parents that are essential workers, retail, fast food, labor jobs. They are essential but teachers are not. That spells it out. Teachers do not think they are essential.

Cracky October 17, 2020 at 9:53 PM

Doctors, nurses, pharmacists, phlebotomists, postal employees, amazon workers, pilots, flight attendants, grocery clerks, gas station attendants, restaurant employees, retail shop employees, bank tellers, etc etc etc … DO NOT get the luxury of demanding to work from home …. WHY SHOULD TEACHERS???

ConcernedMom October 18, 2020 at 9:17 PM

@Cracky, not only can the teachers work from home, now that you do not have to quarantine in Hawaii for 2 weeks, my child’s teacher will be “working at home” in Hawaii at the end of Oct.!!

admonishedteacher October 19, 2020 at 6:14 PM

@concernedmom I am saddened by your public admonishment of me, and by your choice to complain to my employer. If schools were open, I’d still be going on vacation. I’ve been planning it for two years. It is a special occasion. The difference is I’d have a substitute. I honestly felt that it would be better for the children to have me teaching, rather than a substitute. I thought I was doing a good thing for the children. I had no idea that by me making that choice you would launch this campaign of hatred towards me. I cannot express how much joy you’ve taken from me by doing this. If that was your goal, you’ve achieved it. You clearly don’t like me. That’s fine, but please stop with your public shaming of me. Thank you.

S October 19, 2020 at 7:43 PM

Well admonteach…

maybe you should keep your private life private ???

Vandy October 17, 2020 at 11:31 PM

The Trump virus should not be allowed to infect students and teachers. Keep the schools closed!

bdml October 18, 2020 at 7:23 AM

Yes Trump cooked this virus up in a petri dish in Wuhan jeep the misinformation coming…

Ash October 18, 2020 at 8:40 AM

The Trump Virus?

what about the leftie virus that IS infecting our children, our nations future? the ideology that advances a hatred and rejection of God. the ideology that teaches 2nd and 3rd grade children about being transgender. an ideology that normalizes drug addiction. an ideology that abandons love of country and ones fellow man for shallow self love, gluttony, greed, sloth and venomous exchanges rather than civil discussions as exemplified in the pages of this website.

God Help Us

Kevin Cothran October 18, 2020 at 1:45 PM

everyone lets remember in the begining of the dem party when it was formed, were for slavery, against wemons right to vote, put native americans on reservations, created the welfare system. so unless you actualy go out to the streets and talk with people, everything you see, hear.or read from news outlets, newspapers even internet platforms give you their bias info. I have lived in nor cal for over 53 years, we have a online source of news for our county up to a month ago covid was on front page with the counties sat data. deaths associated with this infectous pathagen, did not change or increase for past three months. now as of today you cant even find anything on covid in this news source. odd that it went from every single day front page bold headlines data report to zero reporting?

Kauai Mike October 19, 2020 at 6:25 AM

will the virus totally disappear Nov. 4th?

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