Uh oh. Looks like them chickens coming home. While we’re at it go ahead and make the MDUSD commit to removing all marxist revolutionary teachers and focus on education.
BillOctober 15, 2020 - 4:37 PM - 4:37 PM
Not sure where you get the idea that any Marxism is going on. Teachers have a curriculum to teach, and they pretty much stick to that because there is no time for other things.
Your focus should be on what teachers are told to teach, not the teachers themselves.
SamOctober 15, 2020 - 5:08 PM - 5:08 PM
The virus does not exist per the CDC. It’s to late, we know. You acting like you don’t is the equivalent of a good cop watching bad cops do bad things.
bdmlOctober 15, 2020 - 10:40 AM - 10:40 AM
I am glad that parents are uniting to fight back against this. People that feel that there is too big a risk keep your kids home but open up for rest of us that cannot sit at home doing teachers jobs for them while they get paid…
BillOctober 15, 2020 - 12:08 PM - 12:08 PM
You are not doing a teacher’s job. You are doing what you should normally be doing, helping your child learn. This has been a big problem with teachers vs. parents. Some parents think a school is a place to dump there child for baby sitting.
If you think you are doing a teachers job, what curriculum have you come up with for your child to learn?
bdml and Bill both have 100% accurate points. Teacher’s need to get back in the classroom if they want our tax dollars, and parents need to work harder to help their children learn. The only problems that will arise come from parents learning what is being taught. Systemic marxism has plagued the public school system and everyone connected to it. The mask is off so to speak. The last thing teachers want is parents getting involved.
BillOctober 15, 2020 - 5:51 PM - 5:51 PM
@Rollo
LOL, yes, there is a corrector of typos around every corner. How ironic …
“their” child …
If they had an edit button, I would have fixed it way before you could have tried to “insult” me.
TeachOctober 15, 2020 - 8:38 PM - 8:38 PM
Um… I’m pretty sure teachers are still making all the lesson plans to teach your child. You literally are finally just experiencing the parenting and support you should be giving even without distant learning. I’m so sick of parents saying that they don’t have time to check their kids homework since they work. Even with regular in person learning, parents should be checking in with their kid normally.
TeachOctober 17, 2020 - 9:20 AM - 9:20 AM
Ignorance at its best.
Schools are open. Teachers are busting their butts, 12 hour days, and teaching.
Students are learning.
Just because you can’t remember how to do 5th grade math, don’t blame the teachers if helping your kids do school is hard. Not their fault.
Show me a lesson plan. Set up one week’s worth of daily schedules that include content, different modalities to reach different students, and meets the essential standards for your grade level.
What, you don’t know what essential standards are? You don’t know how to help a child who requires speech to text? You can’t figure out how to make sure Logan got to school to get lunch today?
Yeah. Go *teach* for a week and come back.
SOctober 15, 2020 - 10:44 AM - 10:44 AM
Maybe a more central area of the school district would be a better location????
KiOctober 15, 2020 - 4:32 PM - 4:32 PM
Moved my kids out state for real school, not fake school. They are so happy to be in school, with teachers who actually want to teach . Weird how school has been open for two months all over the country but contra costa refuses, no planning, not even prepared to open, 7 months useless meetings , if I did my job like them would have been fired months ago, the school district is a joke , sad to watch children being treated so poorly
TeachOctober 15, 2020 - 8:40 PM - 8:40 PM
Teachers do want to teach! I don’t know why parents think they don’t want to. Have parents ever thought that teachers are just trying to make sure that their bosses support them in the right way like providing them the necessary safety protocols to perform in person teaching ?
Well??!!October 16, 2020 - 12:27 AM - 12:27 AM
Talk to your union Teach, because the general consensus among us parents is that you don’t want to teach. I too am moving my kids out of state. Congratulations MDUSD and Brian Lawrence for using this stupid “pandemic” to hit rock bottom, but yet you still continue to dig. What a joke you people have become.
LimeRidge LarryOctober 15, 2020 - 10:54 AM - 10:54 AM
NOT IF BRIAN LAWRENCE HAS ANYTHING TO SAY ABOUT IT!
I wouldn’t be surprised to see Brian out there in a counter protest. That guy doesn’t want schools to ever open again. He has let all the power go to his head.
MarySmithOctober 15, 2020 - 11:09 AM - 11:09 AM
He’s so power-hungry that he’s not seeking re-election. Oh wait..
parentOctober 15, 2020 - 11:17 AM - 11:17 AM
Thankfully the fool Brian Lawrence is out in 3 weeks. That fool is such a political nightmare and so politically jaded he should never have been allowed lead a school district. His attitude was forced upon administrators and teachers because of his position.
ChuqOctober 15, 2020 - 10:55 AM - 10:55 AM
As the commenters on this site are often railing against public protests I am certain they will roundly condemn this one as well.
I will explain this very slowly for the slow-learners.
Public protest is a God-given right that is protected by our Constitution.
Rioting, looting, and committing arson and murder are illegal acts that are not constitutionally protected.
LL Cool JOctober 15, 2020 - 11:27 AM - 11:27 AM
Thank you Cowellian.
The Fearless SpectatorOctober 15, 2020 - 11:30 AM - 11:30 AM
Don’t bother, Cowellian. Chuq and that ilk believe they’re one and the same.
ChuqOctober 15, 2020 - 2:28 PM - 2:28 PM
Except when folks show up with giant rifles in which case – still peaceful protest right?
Rollo TomasiOctober 15, 2020 - 3:27 PM - 3:27 PM
If those rifles are legally possessed and carried, yes. I’m sorry that you’re so intimidated by those lawfully exercising their rights. That’s a “you” problem.
I'll gladly pay you on Tuesday for the Hamburgers I eat todayOctober 15, 2020 - 11:15 AM - 11:15 AM
Funny how so many things are going to magicaly disappear depending on what happens on November 3rd. Or November 19th if you’re in Michigan!
TheColdSoldierOctober 15, 2020 - 11:23 AM - 11:23 AM
I’ll never tell anyone that she shouldn’t protest, it’s the most American thing you can do. That being said… Y’all must not like your kids very much, if you want them smushed into school together right while COVID cases are spiking. And you must REALLY hate their teachers.
bdmlOctober 15, 2020 - 11:35 AM - 11:35 AM
Not everybody views the situation as you do nor do they have to.
To Do ListOctober 15, 2020 - 11:49 AM - 11:49 AM
No, protesting is not “the most American thing you can do.” It is a right under the Constitution. The most American thing in politics is to listen to each side, allow freedom of speech and press and understand there is a common good for all. Those ideals have been lost in the Democrats obsession to “resist.” Protests are for when things are not working well and some want to raise visibility to that problem. The Left seems to have “normalized” protest pretending to be under the umbrella of free speech, when in fact much of it is to intimidate others and vandalize the results of the previous election. That is unAmerican.
Matthew HardyOctober 15, 2020 - 11:59 AM - 11:59 AM
Cool. Let’s see how many students and teachers are at your little Karenfest.
BobOctober 15, 2020 - 12:16 PM - 12:16 PM
I’m with you. It sucks arguing with my kid to do his class work but I’d rather that then send him to school to get sick and spread it to the rest of the family.
Elwood BluesOctober 15, 2020 - 4:04 PM - 4:04 PM
Kids who eat dirt and lick armrests have better immune systems than the rest of us, and their bodies will kill off C19 faster than you can say “Anthony Fauci”. Reopen the school campuses, with no 6′ bubbles or masks, the kids will be all right.
PuffandstuffOctober 15, 2020 - 4:34 PM - 4:34 PM
Hey Bob, do you realize that schools have always been full of germs? Most of us survive them. There will always be germs. When I was a teacher I caught strep throat three times along with countless other colds , pink eye etc. I’ve built up a killer immune system bc of it!
Sickness happens , use common sense , don’t send sick kid’s to school,
Start living!
Talk to your Dr if you are really frightened of COVID he/ she may help you relax a bit
BillOctober 15, 2020 - 7:17 PM - 7:17 PM
@Puff&Stuff
This “germ” is not the same. It is not as easy as any one thinks. This will end, but forcing the change will not work.
@Bob, I agree, most teachers do not want to go to school where the students will come to school sick and spread it around. And teachers will be susceptible to this too.
Oh, pleaseOctober 15, 2020 - 9:09 PM - 9:09 PM
Many of you have a point. So, I assume you kept your kids home every winter when the flu spiked? Right? Crickets…
dana estatesOctober 15, 2020 - 11:35 AM - 11:35 AM
Here are the emails of the school board that in charge of reopening. ‘melgozaj@mdusd.org’; ‘gonzaleslm@mdusd.org’; ‘hartwigs@mdusd.org’; ‘sudrlaa@mdusd.org’; ‘clarka@mdusd.org’; ‘lawerenceb@mdusd.org’; ‘lawrenceb@mdusd.org’; ‘aghilyw@mdusd.org’; ‘juranekl@mdusd.org’
99% of folks who get Covid, RECOVER. Home schooling and distance learning is hurting our kids more than Covid is. Their mental states are suffering, their grades are suffering, their education is suffering and frankly distance learning is just not good enough.
Teachers are suffering too. I know many teachers that are ready to give up. They can’t handle it. The extra workload, the fact that their students are suffering and they can’t help them, no tutoring, no face to face.
Not to mention the suicide rates going up. For kids -and- adults. The faster the school district opens up to all, the faster the mental health of everyone will improve. Covid will not kill us but our mental states will forever suffer if your not willing to be the leader in the effort of the health of our kids and teachers. OPEN OUR SCHOOLS PLEASE!
SBOctober 15, 2020 - 5:12 PM - 5:12 PM
I agree with you completely. Distance learning is a disaster academically, socially, emotionally and developmentally. The teachers need to stop arguing with the admnistrators and get back to the classroom. They’ve had months to sort it out. Kids are paying the price, and in a few years, so will this community.
RolaidsOctober 15, 2020 - 11:49 AM - 11:49 AM
I am sympathetic to both sides of the debate as whether to open the schools later or sooner, but the flyer above brings up some points that are of great concern to me. My youngest is still in high school, and THANKFULLY she is the type that can figure all this out and roll with it, but I am convinced, without evidence, that there are millions of kids that are decidedly NOT doing ok with this cold shower called remote learning. I fear we are going to have an educational Lost Generation.
RicardohOctober 15, 2020 - 11:52 AM - 11:52 AM
It is time the whole of Walnut Creek has it’s own school district.
AnewOctober 15, 2020 - 3:20 PM - 3:20 PM
A better suggestion would be school choice and vouchers for all of the MSUSD with mandatory Civics and Free Market Capitalism classes.
eyeseeyouOctober 16, 2020 - 10:15 AM - 10:15 AM
What’s your end goal of Walnut Creek having its own district? Are Concord and Pleasant Hill bringing you down somehow in relation to this news post?
MoJoOctober 15, 2020 - 11:59 AM - 11:59 AM
Rather than protesting at a main intersection, get the addresses, phone numbers and emails of all the board members and protest in front of their houses and pester the living chit out of them. Might work?
@Bdml, agree. Also, teachers are off flying to Hawaii, etc. Teachers are afraid to go back to school, but not afraid to travel on a plane. Teachers will never want to go back to in-class teaching!
NatalieOctober 15, 2020 - 1:47 PM - 1:47 PM
Until today, travelers to Hawaii had to quarantine in place for two weeks upon arrival. So I sincerely doubt that teachers have been flying to Hawaii. Who was going to spend money on airfare and accommodations only to be stuck inside a hotel room for 2 weeks? The quarantine rule for travelers to Hawaii was only changed today, where a traveler can take a Covid test before traveling to there.
ConcernedMomOctober 15, 2020 - 3:29 PM - 3:29 PM
I agree Mike, there are teachers working very hard. Unfortunately, my child’s teacher isn’t one of them as she announced earlier this week that she is leaving for Hawaii in 2 weeks and will be “teaching” while she is there. Who can work a “full-time job” and enjoy a vacation at the same time? Public employment at its finest.
Natalie, I guess she received the news about the lack of quarantine rules in Hawaii too. She must have been so excited, she couldn’t even wait until Thanksgiving break!
BillOctober 15, 2020 - 7:20 PM - 7:20 PM
@Concerned,
You are very wrong, us teachers do want to go to school and teach our students. What we obviously have is care for your child to not be exposed to this risk. Maybe you can learn how to care, too.
TeachOctober 15, 2020 - 8:43 PM - 8:43 PM
I’m sure your child’s teacher wants to go back and teach. She’s probably going to Hawaii since she can’t go back to teach anyways because the board has to make a decision. So why blame her for her taking advantage of her location? She’s still teaching? Might as well teach from somewhere nice while she waits for the green light to do in person teaching.
This comment can be applied to all sides. I know of students who have “attended” class from places like Tahoe and some nice national parks (while they give notice their wifi isn’t that great- duh!). Did the students decide to go to those places, or was it “the family”? It is what it is. If you’re going to say that is “taking advantage”, then there are people on both sides of the distance learning “taking advantage”. Don’t point the finger only one way.
Rollo TomasiOctober 16, 2020 - 12:20 AM - 12:20 AM
Hey Bill, influenza is many times more deadly to children than COVID. Shall we keep schools closed during flu season?
Well??!!October 16, 2020 - 12:47 AM - 12:47 AM
Hey Bill! Teach! Get your asses back in class! Your liberal agendas aside (which I will correct at home) can stop this charade of being IN FEAR! With each passing day, you are losing more and more respect from the general public. Distance learning is not working for anyone.
Hey TeacherOctober 16, 2020 - 3:02 PM - 3:02 PM
Us teachers?
Doesn’t MDUSD have any teachers that can properly use the English language?
ZZOctober 15, 2020 - 12:09 PM - 12:09 PM
I’m glad the parents are organizing. They are the only ones that can change this. Excellent job parents! Stay united!
BillOctober 15, 2020 - 12:11 PM - 12:11 PM
They should just wait. Schools most likely will open in January, after the semester ends. That is if everyone keeps up with their social distancing and helps keep the cases of Covid19 down.
If you think opening schools earlier will help, think about all the procedures that will have to be put into place to keep your kids safe from getting sick of this. Also, are you willing to accept that your child might get sick from Covid19? I wonder how many lawsuits there will be if a child gets sick? Can’t win, one way or the other.
Now why would you want a school to open up right smack in the middle of flu season? You must not have kids based on your other comments.
Elwood BluesOctober 15, 2020 - 4:08 PM - 4:08 PM
Knowing the goons, they’ll want closed schools to be PERMANENT. If we don’t reopen now, we may not get a chance later.
We have the means to treat people now, and nearly everyone who becomes a positive case for C19 has no symptoms at all. Hey, half the parents may have become immune to C19 within the last five months and we don’t even know it. Let’s deal with the sicknesses as they come up, because the isolation is hurting kids, parents, and teachers more than the virus is. 6-foot bubbles and masks only add to the sense of isolation, so neither of those in the schools either. Open them up!
Oh, pleaseOctober 15, 2020 - 9:11 PM - 9:11 PM
No. They won’t. Some schools have a plan for that, but not our district. This will be the whole year and at least part of next unless we can force them to do what is right.
LOctober 15, 2020 - 12:39 PM - 12:39 PM
@bdml- Wow! This is beyond ignorant! I’m a teacher and I have never worked harder in my entire life! I work 10 hours a day every single day! I also work on weekends to ensure my students are getting the instruction the desperately need. In addition, I have 2 children of my own who I am neglecting so I can help the public’s children. CLEARLY you do not have children!!
SamOctober 15, 2020 - 1:23 PM - 1:23 PM
First: Some people work 14 hours a day with commute. Particularly people of color
Second: Every one of you could easily be replaced along with the MDUSD by a standardized youtube channel created by Betsy Devos’s Department of Education.
Third: You better think about your future if you want to keep pushing this destructive political hoax
Fourth: Grow a spine and stop injecting your opinions on small children
DarwinOctober 15, 2020 - 1:35 PM - 1:35 PM
@sam
“Some people work 14 hours a day with commute. Particularly people of color.” Where’s your proof???
You should have said, PEOPLE OF All COLOR. A little biased are we???
@L I’m with you, stay strong! I have several friends who are teachers and I hear about the struggles they’re facing. None of the adults in this thread who are so ready to have their kids go back to school would ever dream of signing themselves up to be in that kind of environment during the pandemic. You literally couldn’t pay me enough to even stand in a classroom right now, let alone teach in one all day, and yet these people want to define your workspace and safety protocols?
Wow! I hope you aren’t a teacher at Foothill or Northgate and yelling at my kids the way you are in your comment.
SamOctober 15, 2020 - 2:28 PM - 2:28 PM
I don’t think it’s bias to use the language they teach children against them. The hypocrisy from the leftists knows no bounds. Only pointing it out. Obviously 14 hour commutes affect white people. This teacher crying about not seeing their kids because they work 10 hours a day 5 days a week with the full summer OFF is laughable and shows how detached from reality they are.
Rollo TomasiOctober 15, 2020 - 3:32 PM - 3:32 PM
Cold Soldier: The clerks ringing up your groceries are more exposed right now than teachers would have to be. But keep sounding that alarm…
Elwood BluesOctober 15, 2020 - 4:11 PM - 4:11 PM
L – you’re probably the main person who should be fighting to end this campus lockdown. You know the value of in-person education better than any of us.
I suspect, though, that if MDUSD does the right thing and reopens the schools . . . then that news will get to Sacramento, they’ll say MDUSD has gone rogue, and they’ll cut off all funding. With the clowns and criminals in the State Capitol, they probably would do that.
This must end ASAP. And I hope you’re out there protesting too.
BillOctober 15, 2020 - 4:48 PM - 4:48 PM
@Ellwood
Yes, in person discussions will always be better, but the system to replace this, hybrid classes, will not make the situation better.
What will make it better is if everyone would do what it takes to stay healthy and not spread SARS-CoV-2. It could be as simple as that, or maybe that is too hard for some to understand.
Well??!!October 16, 2020 - 12:56 AM - 12:56 AM
L, take it to your worthless union. But yes, us parents feel like you don’t want to go back. And Bill, dude, I am so happy you will never teach any of my kids because your perception of this COVID 19 China Virus is SO March 2020. Good luck all of you good folks trapped in this horrible school district…..we are OUT!
Dawna Van WertOctober 15, 2020 - 12:46 PM - 12:46 PM
These parents need to take this to Newsome and contra costa county health department. The schools do not have a final say in this, they are mandated to follow Nutjob newsomes directives and the contra costa health department and the contra costa board of education. If you all want change start at the top.
NatalieOctober 15, 2020 - 2:06 PM - 2:06 PM
This is not accurate. It is up to each district in our county to determine if they will open or not. The state and the county health department have already cleared Contra Costa school dsitricts to reopen provided they operate under the safety guidelines. There are some private schools in the county that have reopened, and SRVUSD reopened special education and will reopen normal classes Jan 5th.
MDSUD is making it’s decisions unencumbered by the state and county authorities.
Concord GuyOctober 15, 2020 - 1:06 PM - 1:06 PM
Had there been presidential leadership beginning in January, we would not be in this position today.
Without Covid, Harris/Biden wouldn’t have a campaign!
What would they have done differently? You don’t deserve to know until after the election…….Vote early, so it will be too late when the Bidon foreign corruption is fully disclosed.
Re: Presidential leadership, if Trump had issued orders to the whole country he would have been accused of being a dictator. Instead, he instructed the Governors to manage the disease in their own states. Is that not leadership?
@Ash …. What they learned from the H1N1 epidemic led to the creation of the White House Pandemic Response Team. Trump dismantled that office almost immediately after he was elected.
People make mistakes, but responsible people learn from them. Trump and his sycophants label their failures as successes, instead.
Rollo TomasiOctober 15, 2020 - 3:35 PM - 3:35 PM
Leadership such as what? Issuing mandates with no constitutional authority to do so? Making recommendations that people would ignore because it came from him? He banned travel from China and was called a xenophobe. Your hindsight is 20/20.
Mr. PinkOctober 15, 2020 - 1:11 PM - 1:11 PM
“The autumn wave of the coronavirus has reached a dangerous new stage. The number of new daily cases has risen almost 50 percent in the U.S. over the past month. The situation is even worse in Europe.” NYT Daily Briefing
CynOctober 15, 2020 - 3:19 PM - 3:19 PM
@Mr. Pink
More cases because more testing; however, not more deaths.
annonmomOctober 15, 2020 - 1:59 PM - 1:59 PM
Do any of you folks who are rushing back to the classroom have any idea how many sick kids are sent to school during flu season? You really have no idea. I’m talking about kids who’s parents knew they were sick when they were dropped off. You’d be amazed.
MDUSD ParentOctober 15, 2020 - 2:00 PM - 2:00 PM
Come on. MDUSD this year will look nothing like it ever has. Open it up? Sure, to 25% or capacity. Which is the truth, many people just don’t want to believe it.
Hybrid? Good luck, us parents will have a harder time than we are now.
Careful for what we wish for.
BillOctober 15, 2020 - 4:19 PM - 4:19 PM
Yes, the district will most likely choose a hybrid system, which may be more difficult for parents. The only benefit would be the possible in-class discussions that are harder to do online.
lolzOctober 15, 2020 - 2:34 PM - 2:34 PM
and are all you parents out there willing to be responsible and mask up? do everything you can to protect not only your kids but the teachers and other families? cuz theres a lot of parents walking around with masks down and letting their older kids walk around maskless…how fair would it be to expect teachers to teach if parents cant even respect them enough to be safe. and how are overcrowded schools gonna afford extra teachers and support staff…and where to place students if they need to be spaced out?
this country is an embarrassment because of the cheeto in office. this sh!t show could have been handled with PROPER leadership.
I keep hearing that over and over, yet never any examples of specifically what should have been done. Freedom isn’t safe and it’s not designed to be.
BillOctober 15, 2020 - 4:52 PM - 4:52 PM
@Rollo,
If you do not know what you should be doing, then you are not paying attention. It is not about freedom, unless you think there is a freedom to spread SARS-CoV-2 around freely to others. Freedom is about being able to move about without constraint, which also means without worrying about someone harming us – in this case, with the virus. It is too contagious to think that one person’s freedom weighs more than another, where one person can just walk around without regard to others.
SamOctober 15, 2020 - 4:58 PM - 4:58 PM
That answer is no. Masks are for Halloween. This little masked dystopian nightmare where all the kids are running around with masks will not come to fruition. Mark my words
SamOctober 15, 2020 - 5:04 PM - 5:04 PM
The virus has never been isolated per CDC. That means the CDC can not even prove this virus exists. That means there is no way to create a vaccine and nobody knows what we are fighting. PCR tests are an absolute hoax to go right along with the virus they don’t even know exists. You fools are being played. I would really expect teachers of all people to figure this out.
BillOctober 15, 2020 - 7:26 PM - 7:26 PM
@Sam,
You have no idea about biology, you should not try to say what you don’t know. Extrapolating as you did is incorrect. The virus is known, and the genome is known.
You laugh at a simple spelling error, yet your knowledge of biology is hilarious.
And, it is more than just masks that is needed. And, no kid will follow the rules of keeping clean, washing, distancing themself, … You got that correct about the masks, so you should understand why having a bunch of kids in class at this point is premature.
Rollo TomasiOctober 16, 2020 - 12:30 AM - 12:30 AM
“Freedom is about being able to move about without constraint, which also means without worrying about someone harming us…”
A narrow view of freedom. Freedom doesn’t include the opportunity to work and provide for ourselves? It doesn’t include deciding for ourselves an acceptable level of risk? It certainly includes the opportunity to stay in your house and cower. Knock yourself out.
Freedom does not ensure security. “Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety.”
addlepateOctober 15, 2020 - 2:45 PM - 2:45 PM
Brian T Lawrence
@briantlawrence
Must be a tough morning to wake up as a member of a white nat’l group that didn’t get a shoutout from Trump last night. Hang in there fellas- two debates left. #ThoughtsAndPrayers
9:29 AM · Sep 30, 2020·Twitter for iPhone
an iota of maturityOctober 15, 2020 - 2:45 PM - 2:45 PM
Opening the schools has been attempted in other places. It only works in countries that have reduced the transmission to nearly nothing. These same countries take outbreaks seriously.
Children can catch covid, they can spread it, they can get sick, some cases children have died. Teachers can get covid, spread covid, get sick, and sometimes die. Teachers also have families.
There will be a vaccine. Why risk your family this way?
Rollo TomasiOctober 15, 2020 - 3:43 PM - 3:43 PM
There are worse things than getting sick and even dying.
BillOctober 15, 2020 - 4:53 PM - 4:53 PM
@Rollo
Bad logic there.
Rollo TomasiOctober 16, 2020 - 12:33 AM - 12:33 AM
Really Bill? You can’t imagine anything worse than getting sick or dying?
an iota of maturityOctober 16, 2020 - 12:43 AM - 12:43 AM
@rollo worse than death to have the kids home? Why did you have kids? Children deserve parents that care.
addlepateOctober 15, 2020 - 2:50 PM - 2:50 PM
Brian T Lawrence
@briantlawrence
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Oct 6
I don’t want to win. I want a full-fledged landslide. Across the board- not just the Presidency.
Good grief. Raise your hands if you would go into a classroom right now and teach large classes in small rooms or hybrid. No vaccine.
Exactly. Patience and respect, please. Don’t expect others to do what you would not.
BillOctober 15, 2020 - 4:56 PM - 4:56 PM
Plus, I am glad I am learning new tools right now that will make teaching more enjoyable for the students and more equitable, too. This has forces our district to invest in online tools that will help our students become more engaged, especially after all this is over.
I agree, I do not want to be in a full class and I do not look forward to the hybrid style of classes, either.
Oh, pleaseOctober 15, 2020 - 9:19 PM - 9:19 PM
I would be happy to. But, then again, I work in a hospital setting where I have been working the whole time practically on top of patients and other staff who only marginally wear masks as they are supposed to. Guess what??? No one has spread COVID. Not a one. Zero. Nada. No COVID spread this whole time with hundreds of patients and hundreds of staff.
Assemblyman Kevin Kiley was finally granted Oversight Hearings on Governor Newsom”s COVID Policies. During the hearing State Superintendent of Public Instruction Tony Thurmond said the plan is to keep most schools closed the entire year or longer, sighting “New Data”.
The Chief Deputy Public Health Director was asked why Governor Newsom presented false COVID data to the public, even though he already knew about the data glitches. The answer: It was a quality control problem.
Go check out Kevin Kiley’s blog. He is doing a great job for us.
MDUSDWorkerOctober 15, 2020 - 3:59 PM - 3:59 PM
You parents who are pushing for the district to reopen the schools to in person learning do you know how big / small your childs class is how many kids are in the class? Do you want your child to catch this virus? STOP IT! Let the district and everyone in volved in the reopening work it out for the SAFETY of all
parentOctober 15, 2020 - 8:25 PM - 8:25 PM
I think you are making a bad assumption. Let me correct it for you
The teachers union does not want the schools open. They are enjoying their ‘cushy jobs’. That is a quote from a teacher in an elementary school in Pleasant Hill. A quote from a Walnut Creek high school teacher, ‘why go back …I mean … why should we?
Some teachers are legitimately concerned for their own health because they are obese or suffer other medical ailments. But many of the teachers I personally know do not believe distance learning is working.
Second incorrect assumption you made. MDUSD has NO plans to open the school. The fool Brian Lawrence has already said that.
So, if MDUSD and the Teacher Union were really working on opening the schools safely, we could wait it out. But they are not, so we will not.
As for my children catching the virus, that does not scare me anymore than the possibility of them being hit by a motor vehicle on the road. Without doing the math, they probably would have a better survival rate if they caught COVID as compared to being hit by a car.
Elwood BluesOctober 15, 2020 - 4:02 PM - 4:02 PM
I’m in favor. I’m sure that at least half the teachers would also be in favor, especially in elementary school. I mean, how do you do PE at home?
The teachers have the students’ email accounts, they could email the kids and say “meet at ________________ and we’ll have class.” I work from home now, so I can provide taxi service if needed. And because it’s outside, PPE like 6 feet apart and masks (grrrrr) would be unnecessary. PE and performing arts, such an approach is essential.
commoncentsOctober 15, 2020 - 4:04 PM - 4:04 PM
I suggest that some of the parents get their credentials and be teachers – also they could volunteer for other staff positions. We know that “no one dies from Covid” and “it’s going to disappear.” Right? So they can help out when the teachers and staff get sick from kids being sent to school because “it’s like the flu.”
SamOctober 15, 2020 - 4:53 PM - 4:53 PM
Teaching children ain’t rocket science. I’m not convinced in class is better. For all I care kids can learn online, computer voice and all. Teachers have such over inflated self worth. It’s just a job. Your union is forcing an unpopular political agenda and using you like pawns as usual.
BillOctober 15, 2020 - 4:58 PM - 4:58 PM
@Sam
Wow, try it, then. Try working as a teacher for some time. It is not like you make it out to be. Simplifying it as such only shows you do not know what a teacher has to do.
And, what exactly is unpopular about being safe?
BillOctober 15, 2020 - 5:46 PM - 5:46 PM
As a teacher who has a Ph.D. and has done critical science work, I can tell you that your idea of teaching is highly over simplified. It is more than a job, as we need to also be the adult who makes sure your kids remain safe, at least as best we are allowed to do.
SamOctober 15, 2020 - 6:43 PM - 6:43 PM
Been there, done that. Be careful who you say that to. I’m a lot closer, and know more about this then you may think.
BillOctober 15, 2020 - 7:31 PM - 7:31 PM
@sam
Cool, then let’s hear some logic about how this is all going to work out. Just saying you are closer to this then whatever someone thinks doesn’t cut it for me.
SamOctober 16, 2020 - 8:48 AM - 8:48 AM
In the forgotten subject called Logic, that fallacy is called Appeal to Authority. It’s the most obvious fallacy of all.
If you ask an engineer questions about building bridges, and he has designed many bridges that still stand up after millions of hours of traffic streaming across them, you’ll learn useful information. But proving the existence of a virus is a different proposition. Very different.
Asking a mainstream geneticist whether the COVID virus has been proven to exist is very much like asking a news anchor whether he reports the facts every night.
An actual investigation into “the science” of discovering viruses would consider dissident views. For example, here is what German virologist Stefan Lanka has written about this process: [5]
“Individual molecules are extracted from the components of dead tissue and cells, they are misinterpreted to be part of a virus and are theoretically put together into a virus model…”
“With only a few mouseclicks, a program can arrange [an outcome] as desired, by putting together short sequences of nucleic acids from dead tissue and cells with a determined biochemical composition, a larger genetic sequence that is supposed to represent the complete genome of an old or new virus. In reality, not even this manipulation, called ‘alignment’, can result in the ‘complete’ genetic material of a virus which could then be called its genome.”
“In this process of theoretical construction of the so-called ‘viral DNA or viral RNA strands’, those sequences that don’t fit are ‘smoothed out’ and missing ones are added. Thus, a RNA or DNA sequence is invented which doesn’t exist in reality and which was never discovered [or] scientifically demonstrated as a whole.”
A hundred years ago, if you had asked a virologist what was causing a devastating skin disease in the American South, called pellagra, he would have authoritatively told you it was a virus. And perhaps you then would have written to a journalist who’d stated there was no proof for the virus theory: “I learned from a virologist that a virus is definitely causing these skin outbreaks…”
But the cause turned out to be a niacin deficiency.
Months ago, I wrote a number of articles breaking down the false phenomenon called COVID-19. For the most part, the people who are dying are dying of traditional lung conditions (pneumonia, TB, etc.) falsely re-labeled COVID. Pollution is one major cause. A huge number of these people are the elderly, who are already suffering from multiple long-term health conditions, made far worse by years of treatment with toxic drugs. WHAT IS CALLED COVID IS NOT ONE DISEASE WITH ONE CAUSE. [6]
No new virus is required as an explanation.
MikaOctober 15, 2020 - 4:31 PM - 4:31 PM
We all want things back to normal. But the district has to consider all the stakeholders. They have to figure out how to place a classroom of 34 kids into smaller groups, there aren’t enough classrooms on a campus to do this, so school will have to be held in shifts. They may have to hire more teachers to help with this overflow and/or make up for the teachers who won’t work on the campus. Having classes outdoors is not a viable option. And when a confirmed case of vivid arises in a school, what happens? You know there will be parents steady ready to file the first lawsuits if their kids get Covid. And there will be more work for teachers who have students who prefer to work from home. It’s a real mess to have to figure out and insure all parties are happy with The results. No one has the perfect solution.
SOctober 15, 2020 - 4:37 PM - 4:37 PM
they have had since last March to plan, prepare, and put in place the necessary logistics. My fly on the wall says so far it has all been earcandy.
BilOctober 15, 2020 - 5:44 PM - 5:44 PM
And, they have been planning a lot since March. Your ear must be stuck to the wrong wall. Even us teachers have attended many meetings. Some were to get us ready for distance learning, some were to help us with issues we had with the tools of distance learning, and some have been to listen and discuss some of the steps we were to expect during these months. To think nothing was going on would be to acknowledge that you have no clue about what has been going on.
SOctober 15, 2020 - 8:06 PM - 8:06 PM
yes Ph.D Bil or Bill… there was a lot of meetings…. yet district wide classrooms are not set up, ample employees have not been hired, and there has been nothing shared with the public; beyond rhetoric, to show the district is ready to hit the ground running when given the ok to open.
maybe your next meeting should be to show us that all those other meetings where worth your time. Large groups of the public has little faith in what you have done.
I know you’ll want the last word here… I’ll allow it.
BillOctober 15, 2020 - 4:39 PM - 4:39 PM
That is ridicules. It is not even worth saying more than how off you are.
SamOctober 15, 2020 - 5:24 PM - 5:24 PM
Here’s how brainwashed you all are. Nobody even bothered to ask for evidence of a virus. As per the CDCs website, they have NOT isolated the virus. They have never seen the virus, and have ZERO evidence it exists. The world was locked down for the common cold. You people need to start asking real questions, reading the CDC website and thinking for yourselves. I gave a freebie yesterday. Mike knows. You are teachers, you should be able to find it. CDC website buried under thousands of pages you will find truth. Tip: Once at the website you will need to download the right PDF. Good luck my academic friends.
BillOctober 15, 2020 - 7:32 PM - 7:32 PM
It doesn’t matter what you think CDC is saying, it exists. Your confidence in your answer is hilarious.
Well??!!October 16, 2020 - 1:13 AM - 1:13 AM
Perfect retort Bill, you have basically said, “I’m taking my ball and leaving”! You sanctimonious liberal teachers make me sick.
SamOctober 16, 2020 - 7:03 AM - 7:03 AM
It exists because PHD Bill says it exists. Against what science says. Is that how PHDs work Bill? You repeat what you’re taught to repeat and never research things yourself? Why don’t you deal with reality? Is PHD Bill to lazy to do the reading? Strange
eyeseeyouOctober 16, 2020 - 10:18 AM - 10:18 AM
@Sam. your words are meaningless without sources. I don’t care for an op-ed.
SamOctober 16, 2020 - 11:34 AM - 11:34 AM
The CDC website is the source. I already gave it. You don’t want to do the work. You would rather be spoon fed garbage. We have always understood its easier to convince someone of a lie then to convince them they have been lied to. All the information is available. This thread confirms everyones suspicions. On a thread full of local teachers..🤣.. nobody is willing to read. Ironic
@ bill
What part of my post is incorrect?
Someone is in denial. Open your 👀
Hey youOctober 16, 2020 - 6:14 AM - 6:14 AM
Maybe if our tax dollars actually went to the schools we’d have the funding to open up in hybrid model….
ParentOctober 16, 2020 - 9:47 AM - 9:47 AM
I am so sick of people saying that parents need to be stepping up! We are…but there are many layers that you aren’t addressing when you just say parents are being lazy! Many parents are having to pay for daycare that they otherwise wouldn’t have to which puts a financial burden on them and then they have to rely on the daycare providers to help their kids with distance learning. For myself, it’s like a have a full time job before my full time job and then I have to juggle between my 20 month old who needs constant attention and my 7 y.o. autistic child who is having melt downs daily.
Hey youOctober 16, 2020 - 11:59 AM - 11:59 AM
My husband and I both work full time, luckily our child are older and self sufficient, however with limited instruction time during zoom, there is still a lot that we need to do to support our children with distance learning when we get home from work. We both spent an hour trying to figure out the instructions to an assignment that we were trying to explain to our son. The majority of our evening is spent assisting and teaching our children. Both my children have said they basically have to teach themselves. This is very frustrating for the kids and the parents. The majority of the parents I know are very active and engaged in their children’s learning, but it is very difficult to juggle working full time. No easy solution. If one of us elected to stay home we’d end up living in a cardboard box.
COctober 16, 2020 - 10:54 AM - 10:54 AM
How bout we take the “Political Debate” out of this and justice worry about the education of our children. Parents should be able to decide if they want their child to return to school because their “education” is being affected in a negative way. If you don’t feel comfortable sending your child back….don’t. All this debate about who’s politically right makes us sound as dumb as the 2
children that debated on tv and are running for office. Let’s support MDUSD on coming up with a plan to get the kids that need to be back in school back in. What can we do as parents to support some type of reopen. If the teacher doesn’t want to return they can call in sick and take it up with the Union. That’s what the Union is for. Support Our Children!
ConcernedParentOctober 17, 2020 - 8:53 AM - 8:53 AM
Our children SHOULD be in school! Statistically speaking, children are more likely to die from Influenza then COVID19. More children have died from influenza already this year then they have from COVID19. We have never shut down our schools because of Influenza. Why are we doing this now? I understand in the beginning when little was known, but now there is NO excuse. Wake up people! We are hurting our children. This is shameful and wrong.
Read the following:
gbdeclaration.org
It’s called “Focused Protection”, and it makes sense.
ItsmeOctober 18, 2020 - 11:57 PM - 11:57 PM
From my home in Claycord I’m teaching classes via zoom at a public school in another Bay Area County with better Covid-19 #s than our County.
Wednesday one of my students tested positive and ended up in the hospital..
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Uh oh. Looks like them chickens coming home. While we’re at it go ahead and make the MDUSD commit to removing all marxist revolutionary teachers and focus on education.
Not sure where you get the idea that any Marxism is going on. Teachers have a curriculum to teach, and they pretty much stick to that because there is no time for other things.
Your focus should be on what teachers are told to teach, not the teachers themselves.
The virus does not exist per the CDC. It’s to late, we know. You acting like you don’t is the equivalent of a good cop watching bad cops do bad things.
I am glad that parents are uniting to fight back against this. People that feel that there is too big a risk keep your kids home but open up for rest of us that cannot sit at home doing teachers jobs for them while they get paid…
You are not doing a teacher’s job. You are doing what you should normally be doing, helping your child learn. This has been a big problem with teachers vs. parents. Some parents think a school is a place to dump there child for baby sitting.
If you think you are doing a teachers job, what curriculum have you come up with for your child to learn?
Yes!!! Exactly!!!
“There” child? How ironic…
bdml and Bill both have 100% accurate points. Teacher’s need to get back in the classroom if they want our tax dollars, and parents need to work harder to help their children learn. The only problems that will arise come from parents learning what is being taught. Systemic marxism has plagued the public school system and everyone connected to it. The mask is off so to speak. The last thing teachers want is parents getting involved.
@Rollo
LOL, yes, there is a corrector of typos around every corner. How ironic …
“their” child …
If they had an edit button, I would have fixed it way before you could have tried to “insult” me.
Um… I’m pretty sure teachers are still making all the lesson plans to teach your child. You literally are finally just experiencing the parenting and support you should be giving even without distant learning. I’m so sick of parents saying that they don’t have time to check their kids homework since they work. Even with regular in person learning, parents should be checking in with their kid normally.
Ignorance at its best.
Schools are open. Teachers are busting their butts, 12 hour days, and teaching.
Students are learning.
Just because you can’t remember how to do 5th grade math, don’t blame the teachers if helping your kids do school is hard. Not their fault.
Show me a lesson plan. Set up one week’s worth of daily schedules that include content, different modalities to reach different students, and meets the essential standards for your grade level.
What, you don’t know what essential standards are? You don’t know how to help a child who requires speech to text? You can’t figure out how to make sure Logan got to school to get lunch today?
Yeah. Go *teach* for a week and come back.
Maybe a more central area of the school district would be a better location????
Moved my kids out state for real school, not fake school. They are so happy to be in school, with teachers who actually want to teach . Weird how school has been open for two months all over the country but contra costa refuses, no planning, not even prepared to open, 7 months useless meetings , if I did my job like them would have been fired months ago, the school district is a joke , sad to watch children being treated so poorly
Teachers do want to teach! I don’t know why parents think they don’t want to. Have parents ever thought that teachers are just trying to make sure that their bosses support them in the right way like providing them the necessary safety protocols to perform in person teaching ?
Talk to your union Teach, because the general consensus among us parents is that you don’t want to teach. I too am moving my kids out of state. Congratulations MDUSD and Brian Lawrence for using this stupid “pandemic” to hit rock bottom, but yet you still continue to dig. What a joke you people have become.
NOT IF BRIAN LAWRENCE HAS ANYTHING TO SAY ABOUT IT!
I wouldn’t be surprised to see Brian out there in a counter protest. That guy doesn’t want schools to ever open again. He has let all the power go to his head.
He’s so power-hungry that he’s not seeking re-election. Oh wait..
Thankfully the fool Brian Lawrence is out in 3 weeks. That fool is such a political nightmare and so politically jaded he should never have been allowed lead a school district. His attitude was forced upon administrators and teachers because of his position.
As the commenters on this site are often railing against public protests I am certain they will roundly condemn this one as well.
I will explain this very slowly for the slow-learners.
Public protest is a God-given right that is protected by our Constitution.
Rioting, looting, and committing arson and murder are illegal acts that are not constitutionally protected.
Thank you Cowellian.
Student lives matter………
Don’t bother, Cowellian. Chuq and that ilk believe they’re one and the same.
Except when folks show up with giant rifles in which case – still peaceful protest right?
If those rifles are legally possessed and carried, yes. I’m sorry that you’re so intimidated by those lawfully exercising their rights. That’s a “you” problem.
Funny how so many things are going to magicaly disappear depending on what happens on November 3rd. Or November 19th if you’re in Michigan!
I’ll never tell anyone that she shouldn’t protest, it’s the most American thing you can do. That being said… Y’all must not like your kids very much, if you want them smushed into school together right while COVID cases are spiking. And you must REALLY hate their teachers.
Not everybody views the situation as you do nor do they have to.
No, protesting is not “the most American thing you can do.” It is a right under the Constitution. The most American thing in politics is to listen to each side, allow freedom of speech and press and understand there is a common good for all. Those ideals have been lost in the Democrats obsession to “resist.” Protests are for when things are not working well and some want to raise visibility to that problem. The Left seems to have “normalized” protest pretending to be under the umbrella of free speech, when in fact much of it is to intimidate others and vandalize the results of the previous election. That is unAmerican.
Cool. Let’s see how many students and teachers are at your little Karenfest.
I’m with you. It sucks arguing with my kid to do his class work but I’d rather that then send him to school to get sick and spread it to the rest of the family.
Kids who eat dirt and lick armrests have better immune systems than the rest of us, and their bodies will kill off C19 faster than you can say “Anthony Fauci”. Reopen the school campuses, with no 6′ bubbles or masks, the kids will be all right.
Hey Bob, do you realize that schools have always been full of germs? Most of us survive them. There will always be germs. When I was a teacher I caught strep throat three times along with countless other colds , pink eye etc. I’ve built up a killer immune system bc of it!
Sickness happens , use common sense , don’t send sick kid’s to school,
Start living!
Talk to your Dr if you are really frightened of COVID he/ she may help you relax a bit
@Puff&Stuff
This “germ” is not the same. It is not as easy as any one thinks. This will end, but forcing the change will not work.
@Bob, I agree, most teachers do not want to go to school where the students will come to school sick and spread it around. And teachers will be susceptible to this too.
Many of you have a point. So, I assume you kept your kids home every winter when the flu spiked? Right? Crickets…
Here are the emails of the school board that in charge of reopening. ‘melgozaj@mdusd.org’; ‘gonzaleslm@mdusd.org’; ‘hartwigs@mdusd.org’; ‘sudrlaa@mdusd.org’; ‘clarka@mdusd.org’; ‘lawerenceb@mdusd.org’; ‘lawrenceb@mdusd.org’; ‘aghilyw@mdusd.org’; ‘juranekl@mdusd.org’
99% of folks who get Covid, RECOVER. Home schooling and distance learning is hurting our kids more than Covid is. Their mental states are suffering, their grades are suffering, their education is suffering and frankly distance learning is just not good enough.
Teachers are suffering too. I know many teachers that are ready to give up. They can’t handle it. The extra workload, the fact that their students are suffering and they can’t help them, no tutoring, no face to face.
Not to mention the suicide rates going up. For kids -and- adults. The faster the school district opens up to all, the faster the mental health of everyone will improve. Covid will not kill us but our mental states will forever suffer if your not willing to be the leader in the effort of the health of our kids and teachers. OPEN OUR SCHOOLS PLEASE!
I agree with you completely. Distance learning is a disaster academically, socially, emotionally and developmentally. The teachers need to stop arguing with the admnistrators and get back to the classroom. They’ve had months to sort it out. Kids are paying the price, and in a few years, so will this community.
I am sympathetic to both sides of the debate as whether to open the schools later or sooner, but the flyer above brings up some points that are of great concern to me. My youngest is still in high school, and THANKFULLY she is the type that can figure all this out and roll with it, but I am convinced, without evidence, that there are millions of kids that are decidedly NOT doing ok with this cold shower called remote learning. I fear we are going to have an educational Lost Generation.
It is time the whole of Walnut Creek has it’s own school district.
A better suggestion would be school choice and vouchers for all of the MSUSD with mandatory Civics and Free Market Capitalism classes.
What’s your end goal of Walnut Creek having its own district? Are Concord and Pleasant Hill bringing you down somehow in relation to this news post?
Rather than protesting at a main intersection, get the addresses, phone numbers and emails of all the board members and protest in front of their houses and pester the living chit out of them. Might work?
@Bdml, agree. Also, teachers are off flying to Hawaii, etc. Teachers are afraid to go back to school, but not afraid to travel on a plane. Teachers will never want to go back to in-class teaching!
Until today, travelers to Hawaii had to quarantine in place for two weeks upon arrival. So I sincerely doubt that teachers have been flying to Hawaii. Who was going to spend money on airfare and accommodations only to be stuck inside a hotel room for 2 weeks? The quarantine rule for travelers to Hawaii was only changed today, where a traveler can take a Covid test before traveling to there.
I agree Mike, there are teachers working very hard. Unfortunately, my child’s teacher isn’t one of them as she announced earlier this week that she is leaving for Hawaii in 2 weeks and will be “teaching” while she is there. Who can work a “full-time job” and enjoy a vacation at the same time? Public employment at its finest.
Natalie, I guess she received the news about the lack of quarantine rules in Hawaii too. She must have been so excited, she couldn’t even wait until Thanksgiving break!
@Concerned,
You are very wrong, us teachers do want to go to school and teach our students. What we obviously have is care for your child to not be exposed to this risk. Maybe you can learn how to care, too.
I’m sure your child’s teacher wants to go back and teach. She’s probably going to Hawaii since she can’t go back to teach anyways because the board has to make a decision. So why blame her for her taking advantage of her location? She’s still teaching? Might as well teach from somewhere nice while she waits for the green light to do in person teaching.
This comment can be applied to all sides. I know of students who have “attended” class from places like Tahoe and some nice national parks (while they give notice their wifi isn’t that great- duh!). Did the students decide to go to those places, or was it “the family”? It is what it is. If you’re going to say that is “taking advantage”, then there are people on both sides of the distance learning “taking advantage”. Don’t point the finger only one way.
Hey Bill, influenza is many times more deadly to children than COVID. Shall we keep schools closed during flu season?
Hey Bill! Teach! Get your asses back in class! Your liberal agendas aside (which I will correct at home) can stop this charade of being IN FEAR! With each passing day, you are losing more and more respect from the general public. Distance learning is not working for anyone.
Us teachers?
Doesn’t MDUSD have any teachers that can properly use the English language?
I’m glad the parents are organizing. They are the only ones that can change this. Excellent job parents! Stay united!
They should just wait. Schools most likely will open in January, after the semester ends. That is if everyone keeps up with their social distancing and helps keep the cases of Covid19 down.
If you think opening schools earlier will help, think about all the procedures that will have to be put into place to keep your kids safe from getting sick of this. Also, are you willing to accept that your child might get sick from Covid19? I wonder how many lawsuits there will be if a child gets sick? Can’t win, one way or the other.
Now why would you want a school to open up right smack in the middle of flu season? You must not have kids based on your other comments.
Knowing the goons, they’ll want closed schools to be PERMANENT. If we don’t reopen now, we may not get a chance later.
We have the means to treat people now, and nearly everyone who becomes a positive case for C19 has no symptoms at all. Hey, half the parents may have become immune to C19 within the last five months and we don’t even know it. Let’s deal with the sicknesses as they come up, because the isolation is hurting kids, parents, and teachers more than the virus is. 6-foot bubbles and masks only add to the sense of isolation, so neither of those in the schools either. Open them up!
No. They won’t. Some schools have a plan for that, but not our district. This will be the whole year and at least part of next unless we can force them to do what is right.
@bdml- Wow! This is beyond ignorant! I’m a teacher and I have never worked harder in my entire life! I work 10 hours a day every single day! I also work on weekends to ensure my students are getting the instruction the desperately need. In addition, I have 2 children of my own who I am neglecting so I can help the public’s children. CLEARLY you do not have children!!
First: Some people work 14 hours a day with commute. Particularly people of color
Second: Every one of you could easily be replaced along with the MDUSD by a standardized youtube channel created by Betsy Devos’s Department of Education.
Third: You better think about your future if you want to keep pushing this destructive political hoax
Fourth: Grow a spine and stop injecting your opinions on small children
@sam
“Some people work 14 hours a day with commute. Particularly people of color.” Where’s your proof???
You should have said, PEOPLE OF All COLOR. A little biased are we???
@L I’m with you, stay strong! I have several friends who are teachers and I hear about the struggles they’re facing. None of the adults in this thread who are so ready to have their kids go back to school would ever dream of signing themselves up to be in that kind of environment during the pandemic. You literally couldn’t pay me enough to even stand in a classroom right now, let alone teach in one all day, and yet these people want to define your workspace and safety protocols?
@L
Wow! I hope you aren’t a teacher at Foothill or Northgate and yelling at my kids the way you are in your comment.
I don’t think it’s bias to use the language they teach children against them. The hypocrisy from the leftists knows no bounds. Only pointing it out. Obviously 14 hour commutes affect white people. This teacher crying about not seeing their kids because they work 10 hours a day 5 days a week with the full summer OFF is laughable and shows how detached from reality they are.
Cold Soldier: The clerks ringing up your groceries are more exposed right now than teachers would have to be. But keep sounding that alarm…
L – you’re probably the main person who should be fighting to end this campus lockdown. You know the value of in-person education better than any of us.
I suspect, though, that if MDUSD does the right thing and reopens the schools . . . then that news will get to Sacramento, they’ll say MDUSD has gone rogue, and they’ll cut off all funding. With the clowns and criminals in the State Capitol, they probably would do that.
This must end ASAP. And I hope you’re out there protesting too.
@Ellwood
Yes, in person discussions will always be better, but the system to replace this, hybrid classes, will not make the situation better.
What will make it better is if everyone would do what it takes to stay healthy and not spread SARS-CoV-2. It could be as simple as that, or maybe that is too hard for some to understand.
L, take it to your worthless union. But yes, us parents feel like you don’t want to go back. And Bill, dude, I am so happy you will never teach any of my kids because your perception of this COVID 19 China Virus is SO March 2020. Good luck all of you good folks trapped in this horrible school district…..we are OUT!
These parents need to take this to Newsome and contra costa county health department. The schools do not have a final say in this, they are mandated to follow Nutjob newsomes directives and the contra costa health department and the contra costa board of education. If you all want change start at the top.
This is not accurate. It is up to each district in our county to determine if they will open or not. The state and the county health department have already cleared Contra Costa school dsitricts to reopen provided they operate under the safety guidelines. There are some private schools in the county that have reopened, and SRVUSD reopened special education and will reopen normal classes Jan 5th.
MDSUD is making it’s decisions unencumbered by the state and county authorities.
Had there been presidential leadership beginning in January, we would not be in this position today.
Without Covid, Harris/Biden wouldn’t have a campaign!
What would they have done differently? You don’t deserve to know until after the election…….Vote early, so it will be too late when the Bidon foreign corruption is fully disclosed.
by their own admission they failed H1N1
“we did everything wrong”
https://www.wsj.com/articles/the-obama-biden-virus-response-11597966209
Re: Presidential leadership, if Trump had issued orders to the whole country he would have been accused of being a dictator. Instead, he instructed the Governors to manage the disease in their own states. Is that not leadership?
@Ash …. What they learned from the H1N1 epidemic led to the creation of the White House Pandemic Response Team. Trump dismantled that office almost immediately after he was elected.
People make mistakes, but responsible people learn from them. Trump and his sycophants label their failures as successes, instead.
Leadership such as what? Issuing mandates with no constitutional authority to do so? Making recommendations that people would ignore because it came from him? He banned travel from China and was called a xenophobe. Your hindsight is 20/20.
“The autumn wave of the coronavirus has reached a dangerous new stage. The number of new daily cases has risen almost 50 percent in the U.S. over the past month. The situation is even worse in Europe.” NYT Daily Briefing
@Mr. Pink
More cases because more testing; however, not more deaths.
Do any of you folks who are rushing back to the classroom have any idea how many sick kids are sent to school during flu season? You really have no idea. I’m talking about kids who’s parents knew they were sick when they were dropped off. You’d be amazed.
Come on. MDUSD this year will look nothing like it ever has. Open it up? Sure, to 25% or capacity. Which is the truth, many people just don’t want to believe it.
Hybrid? Good luck, us parents will have a harder time than we are now.
Careful for what we wish for.
Yes, the district will most likely choose a hybrid system, which may be more difficult for parents. The only benefit would be the possible in-class discussions that are harder to do online.
and are all you parents out there willing to be responsible and mask up? do everything you can to protect not only your kids but the teachers and other families? cuz theres a lot of parents walking around with masks down and letting their older kids walk around maskless…how fair would it be to expect teachers to teach if parents cant even respect them enough to be safe. and how are overcrowded schools gonna afford extra teachers and support staff…and where to place students if they need to be spaced out?
this country is an embarrassment because of the cheeto in office. this sh!t show could have been handled with PROPER leadership.
@lolz AMEN
I keep hearing that over and over, yet never any examples of specifically what should have been done. Freedom isn’t safe and it’s not designed to be.
@Rollo,
If you do not know what you should be doing, then you are not paying attention. It is not about freedom, unless you think there is a freedom to spread SARS-CoV-2 around freely to others. Freedom is about being able to move about without constraint, which also means without worrying about someone harming us – in this case, with the virus. It is too contagious to think that one person’s freedom weighs more than another, where one person can just walk around without regard to others.
That answer is no. Masks are for Halloween. This little masked dystopian nightmare where all the kids are running around with masks will not come to fruition. Mark my words
The virus has never been isolated per CDC. That means the CDC can not even prove this virus exists. That means there is no way to create a vaccine and nobody knows what we are fighting. PCR tests are an absolute hoax to go right along with the virus they don’t even know exists. You fools are being played. I would really expect teachers of all people to figure this out.
@Sam,
You have no idea about biology, you should not try to say what you don’t know. Extrapolating as you did is incorrect. The virus is known, and the genome is known.
You laugh at a simple spelling error, yet your knowledge of biology is hilarious.
And, it is more than just masks that is needed. And, no kid will follow the rules of keeping clean, washing, distancing themself, … You got that correct about the masks, so you should understand why having a bunch of kids in class at this point is premature.
“Freedom is about being able to move about without constraint, which also means without worrying about someone harming us…”
A narrow view of freedom. Freedom doesn’t include the opportunity to work and provide for ourselves? It doesn’t include deciding for ourselves an acceptable level of risk? It certainly includes the opportunity to stay in your house and cower. Knock yourself out.
Freedom does not ensure security. “Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety.”
Brian T Lawrence
@briantlawrence
Must be a tough morning to wake up as a member of a white nat’l group that didn’t get a shoutout from Trump last night. Hang in there fellas- two debates left. #ThoughtsAndPrayers
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Opening the schools has been attempted in other places. It only works in countries that have reduced the transmission to nearly nothing. These same countries take outbreaks seriously.
Children can catch covid, they can spread it, they can get sick, some cases children have died. Teachers can get covid, spread covid, get sick, and sometimes die. Teachers also have families.
There will be a vaccine. Why risk your family this way?
There are worse things than getting sick and even dying.
@Rollo
Bad logic there.
Really Bill? You can’t imagine anything worse than getting sick or dying?
@rollo worse than death to have the kids home? Why did you have kids? Children deserve parents that care.
Brian T Lawrence
@briantlawrence
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I don’t want to win. I want a full-fledged landslide. Across the board- not just the Presidency.
Good for him! Me too!
Good grief. Raise your hands if you would go into a classroom right now and teach large classes in small rooms or hybrid. No vaccine.
Exactly. Patience and respect, please. Don’t expect others to do what you would not.
Plus, I am glad I am learning new tools right now that will make teaching more enjoyable for the students and more equitable, too. This has forces our district to invest in online tools that will help our students become more engaged, especially after all this is over.
I agree, I do not want to be in a full class and I do not look forward to the hybrid style of classes, either.
I would be happy to. But, then again, I work in a hospital setting where I have been working the whole time practically on top of patients and other staff who only marginally wear masks as they are supposed to. Guess what??? No one has spread COVID. Not a one. Zero. Nada. No COVID spread this whole time with hundreds of patients and hundreds of staff.
Assemblyman Kevin Kiley was finally granted Oversight Hearings on Governor Newsom”s COVID Policies. During the hearing State Superintendent of Public Instruction Tony Thurmond said the plan is to keep most schools closed the entire year or longer, sighting “New Data”.
The Chief Deputy Public Health Director was asked why Governor Newsom presented false COVID data to the public, even though he already knew about the data glitches. The answer: It was a quality control problem.
Go check out Kevin Kiley’s blog. He is doing a great job for us.
You parents who are pushing for the district to reopen the schools to in person learning do you know how big / small your childs class is how many kids are in the class? Do you want your child to catch this virus? STOP IT! Let the district and everyone in volved in the reopening work it out for the SAFETY of all
I think you are making a bad assumption. Let me correct it for you
The teachers union does not want the schools open. They are enjoying their ‘cushy jobs’. That is a quote from a teacher in an elementary school in Pleasant Hill. A quote from a Walnut Creek high school teacher, ‘why go back …I mean … why should we?
Some teachers are legitimately concerned for their own health because they are obese or suffer other medical ailments. But many of the teachers I personally know do not believe distance learning is working.
Second incorrect assumption you made. MDUSD has NO plans to open the school. The fool Brian Lawrence has already said that.
So, if MDUSD and the Teacher Union were really working on opening the schools safely, we could wait it out. But they are not, so we will not.
As for my children catching the virus, that does not scare me anymore than the possibility of them being hit by a motor vehicle on the road. Without doing the math, they probably would have a better survival rate if they caught COVID as compared to being hit by a car.
I’m in favor. I’m sure that at least half the teachers would also be in favor, especially in elementary school. I mean, how do you do PE at home?
The teachers have the students’ email accounts, they could email the kids and say “meet at ________________ and we’ll have class.” I work from home now, so I can provide taxi service if needed. And because it’s outside, PPE like 6 feet apart and masks (grrrrr) would be unnecessary. PE and performing arts, such an approach is essential.
I suggest that some of the parents get their credentials and be teachers – also they could volunteer for other staff positions. We know that “no one dies from Covid” and “it’s going to disappear.” Right? So they can help out when the teachers and staff get sick from kids being sent to school because “it’s like the flu.”
Teaching children ain’t rocket science. I’m not convinced in class is better. For all I care kids can learn online, computer voice and all. Teachers have such over inflated self worth. It’s just a job. Your union is forcing an unpopular political agenda and using you like pawns as usual.
@Sam
Wow, try it, then. Try working as a teacher for some time. It is not like you make it out to be. Simplifying it as such only shows you do not know what a teacher has to do.
And, what exactly is unpopular about being safe?
As a teacher who has a Ph.D. and has done critical science work, I can tell you that your idea of teaching is highly over simplified. It is more than a job, as we need to also be the adult who makes sure your kids remain safe, at least as best we are allowed to do.
Been there, done that. Be careful who you say that to. I’m a lot closer, and know more about this then you may think.
@sam
Cool, then let’s hear some logic about how this is all going to work out. Just saying you are closer to this then whatever someone thinks doesn’t cut it for me.
In the forgotten subject called Logic, that fallacy is called Appeal to Authority. It’s the most obvious fallacy of all.
If you ask an engineer questions about building bridges, and he has designed many bridges that still stand up after millions of hours of traffic streaming across them, you’ll learn useful information. But proving the existence of a virus is a different proposition. Very different.
Asking a mainstream geneticist whether the COVID virus has been proven to exist is very much like asking a news anchor whether he reports the facts every night.
An actual investigation into “the science” of discovering viruses would consider dissident views. For example, here is what German virologist Stefan Lanka has written about this process: [5]
“Individual molecules are extracted from the components of dead tissue and cells, they are misinterpreted to be part of a virus and are theoretically put together into a virus model…”
“With only a few mouseclicks, a program can arrange [an outcome] as desired, by putting together short sequences of nucleic acids from dead tissue and cells with a determined biochemical composition, a larger genetic sequence that is supposed to represent the complete genome of an old or new virus. In reality, not even this manipulation, called ‘alignment’, can result in the ‘complete’ genetic material of a virus which could then be called its genome.”
“In this process of theoretical construction of the so-called ‘viral DNA or viral RNA strands’, those sequences that don’t fit are ‘smoothed out’ and missing ones are added. Thus, a RNA or DNA sequence is invented which doesn’t exist in reality and which was never discovered [or] scientifically demonstrated as a whole.”
A hundred years ago, if you had asked a virologist what was causing a devastating skin disease in the American South, called pellagra, he would have authoritatively told you it was a virus. And perhaps you then would have written to a journalist who’d stated there was no proof for the virus theory: “I learned from a virologist that a virus is definitely causing these skin outbreaks…”
But the cause turned out to be a niacin deficiency.
Months ago, I wrote a number of articles breaking down the false phenomenon called COVID-19. For the most part, the people who are dying are dying of traditional lung conditions (pneumonia, TB, etc.) falsely re-labeled COVID. Pollution is one major cause. A huge number of these people are the elderly, who are already suffering from multiple long-term health conditions, made far worse by years of treatment with toxic drugs. WHAT IS CALLED COVID IS NOT ONE DISEASE WITH ONE CAUSE. [6]
No new virus is required as an explanation.
We all want things back to normal. But the district has to consider all the stakeholders. They have to figure out how to place a classroom of 34 kids into smaller groups, there aren’t enough classrooms on a campus to do this, so school will have to be held in shifts. They may have to hire more teachers to help with this overflow and/or make up for the teachers who won’t work on the campus. Having classes outdoors is not a viable option. And when a confirmed case of vivid arises in a school, what happens? You know there will be parents steady ready to file the first lawsuits if their kids get Covid. And there will be more work for teachers who have students who prefer to work from home. It’s a real mess to have to figure out and insure all parties are happy with The results. No one has the perfect solution.
they have had since last March to plan, prepare, and put in place the necessary logistics. My fly on the wall says so far it has all been earcandy.
And, they have been planning a lot since March. Your ear must be stuck to the wrong wall. Even us teachers have attended many meetings. Some were to get us ready for distance learning, some were to help us with issues we had with the tools of distance learning, and some have been to listen and discuss some of the steps we were to expect during these months. To think nothing was going on would be to acknowledge that you have no clue about what has been going on.
yes Ph.D Bil or Bill… there was a lot of meetings…. yet district wide classrooms are not set up, ample employees have not been hired, and there has been nothing shared with the public; beyond rhetoric, to show the district is ready to hit the ground running when given the ok to open.
maybe your next meeting should be to show us that all those other meetings where worth your time. Large groups of the public has little faith in what you have done.
I know you’ll want the last word here… I’ll allow it.
That is ridicules. It is not even worth saying more than how off you are.
Here’s how brainwashed you all are. Nobody even bothered to ask for evidence of a virus. As per the CDCs website, they have NOT isolated the virus. They have never seen the virus, and have ZERO evidence it exists. The world was locked down for the common cold. You people need to start asking real questions, reading the CDC website and thinking for yourselves. I gave a freebie yesterday. Mike knows. You are teachers, you should be able to find it. CDC website buried under thousands of pages you will find truth. Tip: Once at the website you will need to download the right PDF. Good luck my academic friends.
It doesn’t matter what you think CDC is saying, it exists. Your confidence in your answer is hilarious.
Perfect retort Bill, you have basically said, “I’m taking my ball and leaving”! You sanctimonious liberal teachers make me sick.
It exists because PHD Bill says it exists. Against what science says. Is that how PHDs work Bill? You repeat what you’re taught to repeat and never research things yourself? Why don’t you deal with reality? Is PHD Bill to lazy to do the reading? Strange
@Sam. your words are meaningless without sources. I don’t care for an op-ed.
The CDC website is the source. I already gave it. You don’t want to do the work. You would rather be spoon fed garbage. We have always understood its easier to convince someone of a lie then to convince them they have been lied to. All the information is available. This thread confirms everyones suspicions. On a thread full of local teachers..🤣.. nobody is willing to read. Ironic
Me ridicules dr bill.
@ bill
What part of my post is incorrect?
Someone is in denial. Open your 👀
Maybe if our tax dollars actually went to the schools we’d have the funding to open up in hybrid model….
I am so sick of people saying that parents need to be stepping up! We are…but there are many layers that you aren’t addressing when you just say parents are being lazy! Many parents are having to pay for daycare that they otherwise wouldn’t have to which puts a financial burden on them and then they have to rely on the daycare providers to help their kids with distance learning. For myself, it’s like a have a full time job before my full time job and then I have to juggle between my 20 month old who needs constant attention and my 7 y.o. autistic child who is having melt downs daily.
My husband and I both work full time, luckily our child are older and self sufficient, however with limited instruction time during zoom, there is still a lot that we need to do to support our children with distance learning when we get home from work. We both spent an hour trying to figure out the instructions to an assignment that we were trying to explain to our son. The majority of our evening is spent assisting and teaching our children. Both my children have said they basically have to teach themselves. This is very frustrating for the kids and the parents. The majority of the parents I know are very active and engaged in their children’s learning, but it is very difficult to juggle working full time. No easy solution. If one of us elected to stay home we’d end up living in a cardboard box.
How bout we take the “Political Debate” out of this and justice worry about the education of our children. Parents should be able to decide if they want their child to return to school because their “education” is being affected in a negative way. If you don’t feel comfortable sending your child back….don’t. All this debate about who’s politically right makes us sound as dumb as the 2
children that debated on tv and are running for office. Let’s support MDUSD on coming up with a plan to get the kids that need to be back in school back in. What can we do as parents to support some type of reopen. If the teacher doesn’t want to return they can call in sick and take it up with the Union. That’s what the Union is for. Support Our Children!
HUMMMmmmm
https://ktla.com/news/local-news/teacher-unions-fight-calls-to-reopen-california-schools/
Our children SHOULD be in school! Statistically speaking, children are more likely to die from Influenza then COVID19. More children have died from influenza already this year then they have from COVID19. We have never shut down our schools because of Influenza. Why are we doing this now? I understand in the beginning when little was known, but now there is NO excuse. Wake up people! We are hurting our children. This is shameful and wrong.
Read the following:
gbdeclaration.org
It’s called “Focused Protection”, and it makes sense.
From my home in Claycord I’m teaching classes via zoom at a public school in another Bay Area County with better Covid-19 #s than our County.
Wednesday one of my students tested positive and ended up in the hospital..
Just sayin’…..
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