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The Water Cooler – Should A New Supreme Court Justice Be Nominated And Voted On Before Or After The Election?

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The “Water Cooler” is a feature on Claycord.com where we ask you a question or provide a topic, and you talk about it.

The “Water Cooler” will be up Monday-Friday at noon.

QUESTION: Should a new Supreme Court Justice be nominated and voted on before or after the election?

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Talk about it….

113 comments


Ash September 21, 2020 - 12:01 PM - 12:01 PM

follow the law

Noj September 21, 2020 - 12:03 PM - 12:03 PM

Before, as stated in the U.S Constitution.
They’re wee wee’d up because the never thought she would lose.
Popcorn.

Jimmy September 21, 2020 - 4:07 PM - 4:07 PM

See IDLTK Comment with a link about 47 comments below mine. It’s worth watching the short video.

Ricardoh September 21, 2020 - 12:09 PM - 12:09 PM

If you think for a second chuckie and the democrats would not be doing exactly that you have no clue.

Bob September 21, 2020 - 1:18 PM - 1:18 PM

They’d confirm before the body was in the ground.

Sam Malone September 21, 2020 - 12:11 PM - 12:11 PM

Before!
I have some real difficulty in the public falling for Ginsburg final wish to wait until after the elections for her replacement to be instated.

It is a ploy by the Democrats. She should have resigned in the Obama administration when she was ill years ago.

Sad to say, she tried to hold on for spite against Trump. It was a roll of the dice.

Dawg September 21, 2020 - 12:17 PM - 12:17 PM

There’s plenty of time, Trump has until noon on January 20, 2021 to decide. From what I understand, he will be making that decision Friday or Saturday.

LightningRod September 21, 2020 - 7:08 PM - 7:08 PM

The new Senate convenes on January 3rd. So no, Trump does not have that long, you’re wrong. Funny how the Republican’s called Obama a “Lame Duck”, when that is exactly what they are right now in the Senate. Don’t you care to see the voters will realized? Ha! Of course you don’t. You’re a Trump supporter.

Rollo Tomasi September 21, 2020 - 9:06 PM - 9:06 PM

Voters don’t pick SCOTUS justices.

Dorothy September 21, 2020 - 9:17 PM - 9:17 PM

No, he doesn’t have plenty of time. He wants a new justice seated at the start of the new session that begins the 1st Monday in October. That is because if the election ends up at the Supreme Court again for any reason there will be a full 9 seated.

Rollo Tomasi September 21, 2020 - 9:46 PM - 9:46 PM

Ginsburg’s confirmation took 42 days. Sandra Day O’Conner was confirmed in 33 days, John Paul Stevens in 18 days. There is time – it doesn’t have to be three ring circus courtesy of the Dems.

Doh September 21, 2020 - 9:56 PM - 9:56 PM

The senate is not supposed to choose a justice but McConnell did 300 days before Obama’s term ended. McConnell stated it was one of his proudest moments. McConnell does not respect the will of the people. He only wants power for his party.

Rollo Tomasi September 22, 2020 - 8:49 AM - 8:49 AM

“He only wants power for his party.”

And what do the Democrats want?

Time to Go September 22, 2020 - 11:19 AM - 11:19 AM

President is within his constitutional right to nominate and it is the Senate’s constitutional right to vote or not vote. Precedent has been set since the 1800’s or earlier. If Senate and President of same party, nominations have been approved during election years 19 times. If Senate and President are from different parties, Senate has not voted or approved nomination 10 times.

Move on.

BOOYAH! September 21, 2020 - 12:19 PM - 12:19 PM

Yes. We’ll need 9 on the bench when this election is contested. And it will be contested.

JWB September 21, 2020 - 1:34 PM - 1:34 PM

Can you remind me why that wasn’t an argument in 2016? Also it is not uncommon for the court to have only 8 members, not just as in 2016 after Scalia’s seat was open for a year, but also if a new member was involved in the case prior to be seated to the SCOTUS, either as a judge or maybe as a solicitor general that member would have to recuse him/her self from that case when it reaches the Supreme Court.

BTW it takes a majority of justices to overrule the lower court’s decision. If there is a tie all it means the lower court’s ruling stays.

BOOYAH! September 21, 2020 - 2:09 PM - 2:09 PM

We don’t need a *lower court* determining our next President. Nuff said.

Original G September 21, 2020 - 2:45 PM - 2:45 PM

2016 or last election, polls, democrats and their media all expected, post election headlines and media reports to be glowing recaps of hillary’s win.

What they got was 1948, . . . “Dewey Defeats Truman”.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dewey_Defeats_Truman

This time big business and swamp dwellers expect is another pathetic defeat. Best they got is a walking advertisement for eldercare and an immature inexperienced wannabe.

The swamp creatures are going to do all they can to muddy and drag out election results.

Clay Campbell September 21, 2020 - 12:24 PM - 12:24 PM

Why would either party that controlled both the White House and the Senate give up the opportunity to select a Supreme Court Justice?

MrDioji September 21, 2020 - 8:47 PM - 8:47 PM

Because they said things explicitly in opposition to that: “I want you to use my words against me. If there’s a Republican president in 2016 and a vacancy occurs in the last year of the first term, you can say Lindsey Graham said let’s let the next president, whoever it might be, make that nomination.”
– Lindsey Graham

It would be one thing if the Republicans did their job in 2016 and gave Garland proper hearings, then perhaps voted not to confirm since they controlled the Senate. However, Mitch and Graham and friends decided to make it explicitly about being an election year, and said things like the above. Now they should be held to that. It’s called integrity.

Rollo Tomasi September 21, 2020 - 9:19 PM - 9:19 PM

I agree, for the most part. So Trump should nominate Merrick Garland, then we can watch heads explode when the Senate fails to confirm him.

Mary Fouts September 21, 2020 - 12:31 PM - 12:31 PM

As I said that last time this issue came up: Nominate a new Supreme Court Justice pick now, don’t wait until next year. The People deserve a full 9 member Supreme Court. This shouldn’t be a political issue, which both our elected Republican and Democratic congresspeople have unfortunately made it.

Tomato Girl September 21, 2020 - 12:35 PM - 12:35 PM

YES! I for one am not a fan of RBG but to think of all that she had accomplished will fall to the way side. She will always be connected to Trump for her personal hatred of him. Fill the seat 💺

Jojo Potato September 21, 2020 - 12:39 PM - 12:39 PM

“integrity and equity”? Where do you think that will come from? I’ve seen so many video clips of Republicans assuring us the they will play fair this time around. See Lindsey. I guess that was before we knew that we could have a President that has no integrity and lies constantly. Lies over and over again, his idea of governing is to get a bunch of punks in pickups to attach huge flags and terrorize the area. Can’t wait for those clowns to come though WC, The only thing they want is diesels with no emission controls. And plenty of guns. A very sad state for our democracy.

Fred September 21, 2020 - 12:40 PM - 12:40 PM

I just wish Republicans wouldn’t come up with these hypocritical lies about why they should appoint a new judge and just say the truth. We just want a conservative judge and will do anything to get one.

Chicken Little September 21, 2020 - 1:50 PM - 1:50 PM

Just like Democrats want a liberal judge and will do anything to keep Trump from appointing a conservative one.

Aunt Barbara September 21, 2020 - 12:44 PM - 12:44 PM

NOW. Just lock Pelosi up in the looney bin, so she stops her dirty tricks on Trump.

MoJo September 21, 2020 - 12:48 PM - 12:48 PM

The Republicans better strike while the iron is hot. No telling what will happen to the Senate and the Presidency after the election. I predict there’s a zero percent chance they will wait on this until after the election and I also predict the Liberals and Democrats will absolutely lose their minds. Unfortunately I also think this will lead to even more rioting and destruction as the left become more unhinged. 2020 strikes again!!!

Oh, the Hypocrisy September 21, 2020 - 12:52 PM - 12:52 PM

IF the Democrats could have confirmed Merrick Garland, they would have.
But they couldn’t, so they didn’t.
Maybe the Senate can confirm a new Justice before the election, but if McConnell is sure of the vote, you can bet he will try.

PO'd September 21, 2020 - 12:57 PM - 12:57 PM

Yes. Biden said so in 1992-it’s called the Biden Rule. It’s OK to do so if an incumbent President is running for re-election, but not at the end of a second term. Watch him try to worm out of this one!

It’s not a sure thing with Romney, and RINOs Murkowski and Collins already said wait until after the election.Gonna be tight.

She tried to last until a Dem President was elected after Hilary blows the election, but didn’t make it

RIP Justice Bader Ginsburg.

MrDioji September 21, 2020 - 8:58 PM - 8:58 PM

Who cares what Biden said 28 years ago? How about what current Senators said 4 years ago:

Graham: “I want you to use my words against me. If there’s a Republican president in 2016 and a vacancy occurs in the last year of the first term, you can say Lindsey Graham said let’s let the next president, whoever it might be, make that nomination.”

McConnell: “Rarely does a Supreme Court vacancy occur in the final year of a presidential term … Given that we are in the midst of the presidential election process, we believe that the American people should seize the opportunity to weigh in.” Feb. 18, 2016

PO'd September 22, 2020 - 9:03 PM - 9:03 PM

Biden’s running for President. Or at least he’ll help President Harris get there.Hasn’t been an appointment this close to an election since. This is the first application of the “Biden Rule” since he made the statement.
It is Constitutional.
Gonna be a real circus this time and centered around abortion as a singular issue.The dems are desperate, as Pelosi has already threatened impeachment. For what, nobody knows.
Lindsey Graham wants his TV time.

The Wizard September 21, 2020 - 1:03 PM - 1:03 PM

YES…ASAP…

Rollo Tomasi September 21, 2020 - 1:08 PM - 1:08 PM

mike, in 2016 the presidency and senate majority were held by opposition parties. That’s politics, and it’s mostly dirty. At the time Ginsburg opined that the senate should do it’s job. Now she supposedly opposed just that on her deathbed. Both sides play dirty, and elections have consequences.

Gruesome Newsom September 21, 2020 - 1:11 PM - 1:11 PM

You’re forgetting key details. Republicans controlled the Senate at this time and would not confirm the nomination from Obama. Democrats, thinking they could win the nomination because they thought Clinton would be the next President, decided to delay pushing forward. Too bad Trump interrupted their plans.

No reason to not appoint a new Justice now. Get it done Trump

Pyrrhus September 21, 2020 - 1:16 PM - 1:16 PM

Because Mitch and the Republicans have no integrity? They keep moving the goal posts when they get called out. They would literally use some random fact to justify their decision. A Supreme Court Justice was never elected in a year where the moon was covered in clouds on the 9th day of December at 10:23 PM. But, it’s okay if we do it because a ground hog popped up and cast no shadow on March 23 at 12:00PM while the great great grand relative of James Burr was sipping Koolaid on his porch.

It’s time for the Democrats to stop being weak and when they eventually control the Senate and Presidency they need to expand and stack the court and then pass laws to make voting easier as even Trump will admit, more voting is bad for Republicans.

The Mamba September 21, 2020 - 1:22 PM - 1:22 PM

I think a justice should be appointed as quickly as feasibly possible, and it should not be a political issue. What happened with Merrick Garland was a disgrace, and holding up an appointment now would be as well.

Sam September 21, 2020 - 1:25 PM - 1:25 PM

Fill the seat. Skip the hearing. Straight to vote. Sworn in by Friday.

Democrats are owed nothing. Fake Russia, Fake impeachment, Fake pandemic, Brett Kavanaugh. Move fast..get it done.

The founding fathers had some dying wishes as well

Will September 21, 2020 - 1:39 PM - 1:39 PM

@Sam, you are exactly correct. After what the lying left did to Justice Kavanaugh and his family we owe them nothing. Confirm the pick ASAP.

Chicken Little September 21, 2020 - 1:48 PM - 1:48 PM

If anybody thinks for a second that Democrats wouldn’t be doing the same thing if the shoe were on the other foot, they’re completely delusional. If a position on the bench became open January 19th and a Republican President were being inaugurated the next day, they would still try to ram through a confirmation. And Democrats have already threatened to impeach Trump again so he’s too busy to nominate a Justice and/or pack the SCOTUS with liberal justices if they’re in control next year, so don’t give us that “Rebublicans have no integrity” and “Republicans don’t play fair” BS.

Mike September 21, 2020 - 1:50 PM - 1:50 PM

The hypocritical Republicans shouldn’t nominate a SC justice because they were vehemently against nominating Merrick Garland NINE MONTHS before an election.

But it doesn’t really matter because Democrats will just stack the SC with more judges if the traitorous Republicans push this through. Let the GOP dig itself a deeper grave for all us patriotic Americans care

Chicken Little September 21, 2020 - 1:55 PM - 1:55 PM

What’s your definition of integrity? Making up fake sexual assault claims against conservative SCOTUS nominees? Making up fake Russian collusion stories involving the President? Impeaching a President for no valid reason, when there was virtually no chance he would be removed from office, just so he would be “forever impeached” and hopefully not win a second term? Yeah, those Republicans have no integrity at all.

Michael Langley September 21, 2020 - 1:57 PM - 1:57 PM

I believe that President Trump has the right to nominate a replacement any time there is a vacancy up until he leaves office. I believe the Senate should have hearings and interview the nominee. I believe, if recommended by the Judiciary Committee, there should be a vote by the Senate on confirmation. I am a Democrat and respect the Constitution as the foundation of the Republic. The Republican Senators in 2016, to a person, did not follow the intent of the Constitution. That self-serving precedent should be discarded in the trashcan of bad faith.
That being said, the Senators who claimed that nominating and confirming a Supreme Court Justice in an election year should admit that they blocked Garland for purely political purposes. They allowed the court to be hampered by a vacancy for a year. They put Party over Country.
When the President nominates the next person for the Court, every Senator should consider the suitability of the nominee. Not every nominee is proper and Senators can vote their Country over Party. Senator Ted Cruz is on the President’s list. Think about that.

Chicken Little September 21, 2020 - 2:55 PM - 2:55 PM

“That being said, the Senators who claimed that nominating and confirming a Supreme Court Justice in an election year should admit that they blocked Garland for purely political purposes.”

Of course they did. But you know perfectly well that Democrats in the same position would have done the exact same thing. And they should admit that they want to block Trump’s nomination for purely political reasons, as well.

Merrick Garland should be grateful he didn’t get the Kavanaugh treatment. THAT was reprehensible. Hopefully, by nominating a woman, Trump can avoid making his nominee endure all the fake sexual assault accusations.

Cyn September 21, 2020 - 2:01 PM - 2:01 PM

Yes, and the sooner the better. Clay Campbell’s post said it best.

Justifiable languor September 22, 2020 - 7:16 AM - 7:16 AM

Hanne Jeppesen: A lot of us are singled out, so take comfort. I am also middle of the road on certain aspects. RINO is the name used on me. The other name, one that you sling, is far left winger because of my support of President Trump. See how that works? I have developed a sense of humor or apathy over it. It comes with the territory. 🦄

Old Otis September 21, 2020 - 2:09 PM - 2:09 PM

NOW!!!!
Or we can wait like baby murderer RBG wanted on her death bed.
“choke”, “gasp”, Trump bad, “gasp”, “choke”.

Chuq September 21, 2020 - 10:33 PM - 10:33 PM

Baby murdered? I assume you are equally upset to hear that the detention facilities where asylum seekers have been kept have experienced a rash of forced hysterectomies.

redrazor September 21, 2020 - 2:09 PM - 2:09 PM

Ginsberg was the ultimate commie liberal lawyer/judge. She was the head legal council of the ACLU when she was appointed by then (lousy) President Slick Willy Clintong. In one of her written opinions she actually said that children over 12 yrs of age should be ok’d to have sexual relations! When asked “how many women there should be on the Supremes; she said “nine”. She was obsessed with sex and always brought it into her diatribes.
She was the grandmother of all the liberal trash that’s made this country much less than it used to be. Please, Mr. President ….. Fill the position ASAP.

Concord Guy September 21, 2020 - 2:11 PM - 2:11 PM

After. This corrupt, impeached Russian asset should not have the opportunity. He knows he’s going to lose the election, so he will go right ahead and make the nomination. And Moscow Mitch will bring it to a floor vote. Such hypocrisy.

The Fearless Spectator September 21, 2020 - 2:50 PM - 2:50 PM

It’s too bad the Harris/Bidon ticket is so disconnected. I keep hoping they will somehow reimagine their tax, healthcare, retirement, immigration, energy, zero bail, and government spending policies. Then more Americans might vote for them.

Rollo Tomasi September 21, 2020 - 9:26 PM - 9:26 PM

“This corrupt, impeached Russian asset should not have the opportunity” writes Concord Guy without evidence. Too bad Meuller’s team has broken up. Oh well, perhaps MSNBC can use another “journalist”.

HappyPappy September 21, 2020 - 2:25 PM - 2:25 PM

Remember what those ruthless democrats, with their seething hatred for conservatives, did to Justice Kavanaugh and his family.

FILL THAT SEAT NOW!

Yoyohop September 21, 2020 - 2:58 PM - 2:58 PM

“RUTHless Democrats” 🙂

HappyPappy September 21, 2020 - 4:57 PM - 4:57 PM

Caught that didja, I thought it may have been too subtle.
Go to the head of the class, yoyohop.

Gittyup September 21, 2020 - 5:32 PM - 5:32 PM

People at Stanford are right this moment desperately dredging up dirt on the proposed Trump nominees from men who will testify that these women grabbed them inappropriately at parties, threw them down and had their way with them.

Idltk September 21, 2020 - 2:31 PM - 2:31 PM

Democrats on video during last Supreme Court vacancy. My how they’ve changed their tune.

https://twitter.com/itguy1959/status/1307877608487628802?s=21

Captain Concord September 21, 2020 - 2:58 PM - 2:58 PM

Yes, sitting president should be the one to make the nomination no matter when. Yes, both sides would play this as politics. That’s why there should be a better-defined process to prevent exactly this situation.

Example – New president nominates a bull-pen of folks that get pre-approved to take over when needed. One day before inauguration and the outgoing president’s selection takes the seat. One day after and the new president gets to choose someone else.

Make no mistake though, the duplicitous two-faced toad knows exactly how hypocritical this is and he doesn’t care. “The other guys would do it too” is no excuse for lacking integrity.

Pyrrhus September 21, 2020 - 3:26 PM - 3:26 PM

@Chickenlittle, yet when have the Democrats done that? I know you are going to point to the nuclear option with 60 votes and Harry Reid. However, why was that a necessary? Because Republicans refused to work with Democrats on anything. The Republican party has been hijacked and working with the opposition party is now seen as weak.

Honestly, things are going to get worse and worse. Politics (especially for the Right wing) is nothing more then rooting for a favorite sports team. F the country, only if my team wins is all that matters. It’s why Republicans are willing to wear shirts “Better a Russian than a Democrat”. Sadly, Democrats are going to have to stop having integrity and play dirty like the Republicans.if they want to get anything accomplished. Of course, history is going to repeat itself. A Republican ruins the country and economy and a Democrat has to step in and fix it just to have another Republican ruin it.

Natalie September 21, 2020 - 3:40 PM - 3:40 PM

All these people in this thread who think RBG was some super-lefty. She voted in support of the Appalachian Trail pipeline and voted to support fast-tracking deportations undocumented immigrants. There’s even an accusation in this thread that she was a communist. She certainly wasn’t a communist. People in this thread haven’t even looked at her record; she supported a Conservative viewpoint on the bench more times than you think.

@Idltk: The Republicans have changed their tune as well. They have some responsibility in the deep polarization we are in. They broke from political norms and prevented Merrick Garland from having a proper hearing. They could have allowed the hearing and voted no. Instead, they stalled Garland’s hearing longer than any other Supreme Court nominee hearing in US history.

Republicans were the ones who said that the new standard should be that no court nominee should be chosen during a president’s last year. They told the American people that they wouldn’t nominate anyone if a Republican president had an chance to nominate in his last year. The Republican party has the opportunity to take the moral high ground on this issue, but instead they’ve backpedaled off their ethical and civic position.

The Fearless Spectator September 21, 2020 - 6:04 PM - 6:04 PM

Politicians who encouraged the looting/rioting have made sure higher ground is a thing of the past. “Give us what we want or we will hurt you”. No rules now; Best get used to it.

Sam September 21, 2020 - 7:12 PM - 7:12 PM

Hell no! You’re not playing your woah is me drama this time. Trump must do what he was elected to do. All that nonsense was well before Trumps time. The senate has 1 job. Do the will of the people and fill the supreme court to protect our election. That’s it, full stop

Dr. Jellyfinger September 21, 2020 - 3:42 PM - 3:42 PM

After all the outrageous and obnoxious behavior the Democrats have displayed since, even before Trump won the election in 2016…. why should ANYBODY… including the President, give a rat’s butt what Democrats want?

And do not forget it was Harry Reid in 2013 that used the nuclear option, He changed the rules to suit Democrats, so that all they needed was a simple majority vote of the Senate to get their way…. now it’s come back to bite ’em in the rear end!

If Reid had left it alone, Republican’s would not have enough votes now to select the next Supreme Court Justice without some Democrat approval….. so suck it up Buttercup!

YOU OWN THIS!

Martin September 21, 2020 - 4:02 PM - 4:02 PM

There is no point in arguing about this because the Constitution is not ambiguous.

Rollo Tomasi September 21, 2020 - 4:05 PM - 4:05 PM

@mike:

Why is this one more important than any other?

Rollo Tomasi September 21, 2020 - 4:07 PM - 4:07 PM

It would be funny if it wasn’t so sad to be lectured on integrity and equity after the Dems and their rabid supporters spent weeks trying to ruin the life of Brett Kavanaugh based on accusations even less credible than those leveled at Joe Biden. Spare me your faux outrage.

Exit 12A September 21, 2020 - 4:16 PM - 4:16 PM

President Trump is a Republican and the Senate is controlled by the Republican Party.

… and “Elections have consequences” – Barack Obama.

According to the US Constitution, the President of the United States can provide a nominee and the Senate can act or not act on that nominee.

Ha Ha Ha September 21, 2020 - 4:17 PM - 4:17 PM

The party that invented Borking is whining about politics in the confirmation process.

Eastbay Babe September 21, 2020 - 5:23 PM - 5:23 PM

BINGO!!! The Democrats were the first to screw up the Judicial process with Robert Bork.. Now they play the innocent and shouting about integrity. The Democrats wouldn’t know what is integrity if it kicked them on the butt.

Mike September 21, 2020 - 4:31 PM - 4:31 PM

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Dr. Jellyfinger September 21, 2020 - 4:33 PM - 4:33 PM

Karma is a b*tch!

Susan I. September 21, 2020 - 4:45 PM - 4:45 PM

Yep Dems… let the R’s have this one… then let’s all go buy firearms.

Sam September 21, 2020 - 9:26 PM - 9:26 PM

Now you get it. Just remember conservatives will be the ones selling you those guns, instructing you safety on those guns, and standing right by your side in times of conflict. Congratulations on becoming an American. We hope you will work to protect all our rights like we have yours.

Rollo Tomasi September 21, 2020 - 9:34 PM - 9:34 PM

Have you tried to buy one lately, or ammo for that matter? The lockdowns and “mostly peaceful” tributes to George Floyd have severely depleted inventory.

Susan I. September 22, 2020 - 1:57 AM - 1:57 AM

Try again… I qualified as an Expert Marksman US Army 89-98. You’d be surprised how many of “us” know how to properly handle firearms.

Sam September 22, 2020 - 10:16 AM - 10:16 AM

And that is a threat. This is what is comes to? You say it’s time to follow the constitution and time to buy guns. I interpreted that as you were standing for the constitution on both fronts. Thanks for clarifying for everyone you actually mean to tell democrats to take up arms against Republicans. You are actively advocating the overthrow of the US government as Trump and the republicans are in power at the moment. I think that is illegal. Have a nice day

Susan I. September 24, 2020 - 11:45 AM - 11:45 AM

Why is it you want me to fight for the America you want? I have different values so why shouldn’t people like me be allowed to defend the America we believe in? Civil War 2.0… I’m not overthrowing anything, I’m standing for my country. Not the only one that feels this way either. I’m sick of hearing how conservatives will get their guns when things don’t go their way. There is a whole lot of us that will do the same.

8066 September 21, 2020 - 5:03 PM - 5:03 PM

Since Mitch blocked Merrick Garland for 111 days the next appointment should be handled by the next president. Trump is the worst president ever. I hope Trump & the Republicans get shellacked on Nov. 3. Trump is a con man, not fit to be president, and a liar.

Chicken Little September 21, 2020 - 5:14 PM - 5:14 PM

Translation: Orange man bad, so the next justice should be a liberal.

Gittyup September 21, 2020 - 5:18 PM - 5:18 PM

@8066 Actually, Obama holds the honor of being the worst President, ever. Generally agreed on when he left office and also that the media gave him a pass on most things while he was President simply because he was black and they didn’t want to be accused of being racist.

Anonymous2 September 21, 2020 - 5:32 PM - 5:32 PM

@8066

I agree with you completely.

Exit 12A September 21, 2020 - 7:42 PM - 7:42 PM

“Elections have consequences.”

– Barack Obama

Trump 2020!!

Bad Nombre September 21, 2020 - 5:21 PM - 5:21 PM

There is adequate time.

Paladin September 21, 2020 - 5:56 PM - 5:56 PM

Out of respect to RBG, I believe that the nomination should wait until after her burial, but nomination and hearings should proceed immediately thereafter.

Sam September 21, 2020 - 7:37 PM - 7:37 PM

No hearing. Straight to vote. Swear her in the following morning.
Strike first, strike hard, no mercy. These lousy democrats think they can guilt trip the country. This became war when you wouldn’t just let the guy do his job for the country and you dismissed the other half of your country as racist and deplorable. When you let the media paint Trump supporters as nazis and him as literally hitler for not wanting Hillary Clinton. 🤣 Great strategy guys. Now we take the House, Senate, Supreme Court, and The Presidency. Enjoy

Rollo Tomasi September 21, 2020 - 9:36 PM - 9:36 PM

So a purported dying wish should override the Constitution?

NoMoreFreeRide September 21, 2020 - 7:17 PM - 7:17 PM

If Ginsburg was so worried about retiring under a Democrat she should’ve done it when Obama was in power. The problem is once these people get power they don’t want to give it up. They think they’re the pope!

Now that she didn’t retire when the Democrats had a sure thing with Obama they want to hold her up as some martyr for their cause. The fact is she screwed up by not retiring. Once you get past a certain age you’re on borrowed time. She rolled the dice and lost.

Bobfished September 21, 2020 - 8:56 PM - 8:56 PM

Seat a new justice now! Follow the constitution.

Vindex September 21, 2020 - 9:10 PM - 9:10 PM

Yes. It’s the constitutional thing to do. The law matters. I would have been more open to waiting on seating a judge (it’s an option) but the Democrats reaction to this has been scary. Their threats of violence and intimidation has woke me up to the fact that we need to set some boundaries on them or they are going to get more and more radical. I’m a moderate.. an independent…. Party loyalty doesn’t compel me. The democrats have swung me right

Hanne Jeppesen September 21, 2020 - 9:11 PM - 9:11 PM

I couldn’t agree with you more. Unfortunately, there are many who don’t see it that way. They use the excuse that the Democrat’s would do the same, that is possible, if scenario was reversed, I would feel the same way. By the way since when has other guy does it too, been an excuse. Didn’t fly in my childhood home. You don’t get a free pass on integrity just because the other side does not have any.

Rollo Tomasi September 21, 2020 - 9:16 PM - 9:16 PM

@Mike:

Where did I assume you’re a Democrat?

And yes, the Supreme Court is meant to be non-partisan.

“I can’t imagine what this place would be — I can’t imagine what the country would be — with Donald Trump as our president,” she said. “For the country, it could be four years. For the court, it could be — I don’t even want to contemplate that.”
“Now it’s time for us to move to New Zealand” – Ruth Bader Ginsburg, Supreme Court Justice, July 10, 2016.

The Supreme Court is now rid of one of the most partisan members in modern history.

vindex September 21, 2020 - 9:18 PM - 9:18 PM

Your comment is partly true. It is correct that the Republicans did not bring Garland’s nomination to a vote. The reason being that there was a Democrat in the White House and a Republican led Senate. They told the voters, if you want us to confirm this pick then put a Democrat in the the White House and elect a Democrat Senate. The voters did the exact opposite. They put a Republican in the White House and a selected the Republican Senate. Therefore the Senators have a mandate to proceed with Trump’s pick. The Garland argument is an effective straw man argument. Nonetheless, it’s still a straw man argument.

Ricardoh September 21, 2020 - 9:41 PM - 9:41 PM

I hear Biden has a team of 60 lawyers that will try to use the courts to win the election. Then we have the mail to everyone ballots, the dead, dogs, cats, and the infirm in long term care coupled with ballot harvesting. We know by now that democrats were the children that always cried if they didn’t get their way. They haven’t changed. Liars all.
There is no reason for the president to not pick a successor.

Chuq September 21, 2020 - 10:35 PM - 10:35 PM

If you’re opposed to crooked lawyers and politics I can’t wait to hear what you think of Trump’s legal team. Why is the US government interfering in his trial for rape?

Old Mr. Rodgers September 21, 2020 - 10:33 PM - 10:33 PM

RGB made it a political issue by fighting to stay alive (which is a good thing) trying to keep Trump from making the appointment. It was her choice but she failed and now there will be a power shift on the court. We lost a great judge and she will be missed.

Led September 22, 2020 - 12:10 AM - 12:10 AM

It’s nice to have bipartisan agreement on rules of procedure. But the basics are these: the President nominates, the Senate confirms. If both approve, job is done. If one doesn’t, it doesn’t get done.

With the deep differences on everything of importance between the parties, neither side is going to honor a gentleman’s handshake over the chance for a scotus seat. If you don’t believe that, why are the Democrats openly talking about packing the court?

The Fearless Spectator September 22, 2020 - 9:27 AM - 9:27 AM

Sour grapes.

They could have strategized and planned ahead on this, but they were too busy howling at the media. They’re really quite emotional.

Antler September 22, 2020 - 12:24 AM - 12:24 AM

The bombastic egoist might at least wait until after RGB has been respectfully laid to rest!

Dr. Jellyfinger September 22, 2020 - 8:09 AM - 8:09 AM

Well…. thank you Emily Post…. but I believe proper etiquette went out the window with “We’re gonna impeach the M’fer!”.

BTW – It is “RBG” not RGB – (I only point that out respectfully).

David Taylor September 22, 2020 - 9:03 AM - 9:03 AM

I read in a couple of different and seemingly reliable websites that RBG’s husband died of cancer at their home, and the next day RBG was at work reading into the record her minority opinion on some case.

The Professor September 22, 2020 - 9:13 AM - 9:13 AM

If Trump agreed to that, Pelosi would “Weekend At Bernie’s” poor RBG until 11/4.

Rollo Tomasi September 22, 2020 - 9:14 AM - 9:14 AM

Don’t get your panties in a bunch yet. The President has said he will wait until Ginsburg has been laid to rest. We’ll see if Pelosi decides she should lie in state interminably. I wouldn’t put it past Madame Fixodent.

Cyn September 22, 2020 - 9:33 AM - 9:33 AM

@ Antler
If Trump agreed to wait, her family may not bury her until they got the president they wanted. No….it’s just best all the way around for the bombastic egoist to name her successor as soon as possible.

Chuq September 22, 2020 - 9:17 AM - 9:17 AM

All these people saying “Hey that’s just politics they can do that” – do remember this if Biden chooses to add new justices to the Supreme Court. He has the right to do it.

Rollo Tomasi September 22, 2020 - 11:08 AM - 11:08 AM

@Chuq:

Wrong. That power lies with Congress, which would need to pass legislation – but don’t let pesky legalities get in the way of your fantasies.

But let’s look more closely at your fantasy. If the President gets re-elected, in your fantasy world he would have the right to do that same thing. I would never support such a thing, but Democrats have shown repeatedly that they’ll do ANYTHING to gain and hold onto power.

Caskydiver September 22, 2020 - 11:32 AM - 11:32 AM

YES.

JWB September 22, 2020 - 11:52 AM - 11:52 AM

Sometimes it’s not a question about the legal right, but what’s right for the country.

I’m really surprised to see how the pro-Trump crowd is really worried that Trump will be a one term president and that the Rs are going to lose the Senate, otherwise why the rush?

And no as we have all seen we came just fine through the 2016 election with one Justice short. I know I have heard Cruz make this argument, but we all know that he is also known as Lyin’ Ted, or in the words of Donald:

“The reason lyin’ Ted Cruz has lost so much of the evangelical vote is that they are very smart and just don’t tolerate liars-a big problem!”

DJT twitter

Sam September 22, 2020 - 3:04 PM - 3:04 PM

Why the rush you might ask? No rush at all. Slow and steady for decades to get this nomination. Checkmate

Rollo Tomasi September 22, 2020 - 9:20 PM - 9:20 PM

“Sometimes it’s not a question about the legal right, but what’s right for the country.”

A very thinly veiled and often used threat lately. “Elect our guy or the rioting and looting will continue.” Kamala said it almost verbatim. Well, I guess one man’s threat is another man’s valid strategy.

Jeff September 22, 2020 - 8:15 PM - 8:15 PM

Nominated -Yes; Confirmed (Advice and Consent) – If an originalist. We don;t need another Roberts. We could use another Justice Thomas or Justice Alito.

Gittyup September 22, 2020 - 10:46 PM - 10:46 PM

Should have happened yesterday.

ConcordMike September 22, 2020 - 11:47 PM - 11:47 PM

I’m really surprised the democrats didn’t keep Ginsburgs death a secret, hooked her up to a life support system until after the election with the hopes they might win.
As soon as a justice dies or quits, they should be replaced immediately … like any other job.

Chicken Little September 24, 2020 - 12:39 PM - 12:39 PM

That’s probably exactly what they did for the first couple of years, until people started catching on.


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