The Water Cooler – Violent Protests In Portland, Oregon

August 7, 2020 12:30 pm · 126 comments

The “Water Cooler” is a feature on Claycord.com where we ask you a question or provide a topic, and you talk about it.

The “Water Cooler” will be up Monday-Friday at noon.

Today’s question:

Portland, Oregon has seen 70 consecutive nights of violent protests. Rioters have smashed windows, lit fires, thrown objects at police officers, including fireworks, rocks and bricks, according to KGW8 News in Portland. Federal officers have also been attacked with lasers, fireworks, and bricks.

QUESTION: What, in your opinion, can the city do to stop the violence?

Talk about it….

Realist August 7, 2020 at 12:32 PM

Show some cojones and arrest the actual perpetrators of the vandalism, attacks and anarchy.

Peaceful protests are not what is continuing to happen. The government in Oregon is trying to Pander to a select few.

Kentucky Derby August 7, 2020 at 12:35 PM

Allow the police to shoot the violent protestors.. A threat of a bullet is the only thing that will stop them, but it’s not reality. And the people who defend these thugs are just as guilty.

Ricardoh August 7, 2020 at 12:39 PM

The obvious answer is to arrest anyone who deviates from marching down the street holding a sign and keep them locked up until the insurrection stops.

THE ANIMAL August 7, 2020 at 12:42 PM

I moved from Concord to Grants Pass last September and have not seen any protests in town. I heard that ”Antifa” came down from Portland to tear down a huge American flag in town(about 50′ x 75′).There was about a dozen of them and they were met with a couple of hundred locals who chased them out of town pretty quick…………………….

mohairs August 7, 2020 at 1:34 PM

LOVE Grants Pass! Beautiful area. Stay safe. 🙂

Antonius August 7, 2020 at 12:43 PM

Borrow a couple of Fire trucks and some water tankers. Hose down the trash every time they come out in the street.There is no such thing as a peaceful riot. Or start shooting them in the a$$ with rock salt shotgun shells. ☺

Kirkwood August 7, 2020 at 1:38 PM

Unfortunately, water cannons are illegal in the U.S.
I’d like to see crowds wetted down with fire trucks also, but it’s probably a bad idea because firefighters would become targets like the police. A police car is not a big loss but a trashed fire engine is a different story as well as firefighters becoming targets.

jose August 7, 2020 at 3:52 PM

fill a couple of the older water tanker trucks up with liquid bovine excrement and let them have it..it works!

parent August 7, 2020 at 12:48 PM

Bring in the National Guard or regular Army – arrest them and put them in jail – no bail until they have made restitution for the damages they caused. If they are minors, charge the parents with a violation of CPS and have them pay the cost.

Janon August 8, 2020 at 6:28 AM

Sounds like a plan

America August 7, 2020 at 12:57 PM

Hmmm… I thought these protests would turn peaceful once federal agents left. Ha!
Blame the city officials who didn’t nip this in the bud right away. Guess it’s time to call in the military tanks and humvees.

nytemuvr August 7, 2020 at 5:42 PM

@America…”Just nip it, nip it in the bud!”-Deputy Bernard Fife

Dorothy August 7, 2020 at 12:57 PM

Let the the real protesters have the daytime to do their marching and protesting. Let it be known that any so called protesters after dark will all be considered vandals, fake protesters, and terrorists. Arrest them, jail them, and don’t let them out for at least a week (due process can take time).

The Fearless Spectator August 7, 2020 at 12:58 PM

1- Inform Oregon Government that there will be no federal aid for ANYTHING until the violence stops. This should make them slightly more cooperative.

2- A coordinated effort between local and federal officers to arrest as many violent protestors as possible every night until the violence is under control.

3- Hold violent protestors without bail and immediately file federal charges. Create an express lane for their cases to be heard in court and sentences carried out ASAP.

4- Recall the Mayor, The Governor, and any city officials who have encouraged the violence.

5- Re-fund law enforcement.

Shiloh August 7, 2020 at 5:11 PM

Exactly this. Bring the Feds back and arrest, arrest, arrest. No bail. Press charges. Execute justice.

George August 8, 2020 at 10:40 AM

Agree

Kentucky Derby August 7, 2020 at 1:01 PM

Arresting them is ineffectual, even though it should be done. Even law abiding citizens are willing to face arrest for protesting something they believe in. They don’t care if they’re arrested, and a lot of these people probably have criminal records anyway. Another night in jail is no big deal.

Ricardoh August 7, 2020 at 2:05 PM

Who said anything about one night in jail. How about a year or two. Maybe more if they are seen doing damage.

Kentucky Derby August 7, 2020 at 2:24 PM

They don’t care about a year or two either. It adds to their street cred, and gives them an excuse not to work for a living. Or take care of their kids, etc. The only thing they fear is whether or not the other guy has a gun.

Ricardoh August 7, 2020 at 2:38 PM

You have a very defeatist attitude. How about horse whipping? I would go for that.

Kentucky Derby August 7, 2020 at 3:06 PM

I’m a realist. If you really think fear of jail will stop violent protestors, you’re ignorant. If they feared jail, they wouldn’t commit crimes. They couldn’t care less. The only people that fear jail are law abiding citizens.

The Fearless Spectator August 7, 2020 at 4:04 PM

Perhaps they haven’t experienced a cell mate motivated to convince them that jail is no fun.

db coop August 7, 2020 at 7:50 PM

The reason they are acting out is because they know theyre not gonna be jailed for any length of time . Any one seen committing vandalism or arson should be arrested and federally charged . Were not talking about peaceful protesters

anon August 7, 2020 at 9:14 PM

@derby

Of course they’re frightened of prison, it’s naive to think otherwise. The issue is liberal and sympathetic, or otherwise highly frightened and intimidated lawyers, judges, DAs and politicians, who refuse to press charges against violent leftists rioters, criminals and terrorists.

Bob August 7, 2020 at 1:03 PM

Water cannons, sound cannons, ADS (Google it), and cell jammers.

If that doesnt do it, switch to live ammo.

This is a war, after all.

Closed library August 7, 2020 at 1:07 PM

How to stop the violence? Maybe prosecute police when they murder unarmed people in the street?

Oh, nevermind, you aren’t asking about that kind of violence, are you?

Ricardoh August 7, 2020 at 2:10 PM

I think you should ride around with the police for awhile and see the trash they have to deal with. Most of the people they kill is because of suicide by cop. Just out of curiosity do you give a hoot about the 200 people who will be shot in our inner cities this coming weekend. Children included.

AnimalLover August 7, 2020 at 2:49 PM

Ride around in a police car!!! Me thinks she is quite happy and safe in the MacMansion with several people doing her bidding.

FPN August 7, 2020 at 7:43 PM

Closed library, We do and will prosecute Police whio murder people on the street. So now what? I say two wrongs don’t make it right. Tear gas, arrest and federal, no regular prison with the real huggy inmates, should do the trick . Oh and post their pictures and history. I deserve to know who is attacking my town and my federal buildings.

anon August 7, 2020 at 9:21 PM

@Closelibrary

Hi! I wanted to correct some info for you. George Floyd died of a heart attack caused by severe arterial blockage and a huge amount of fentanyl in his system, 2 to 4 times the lethal dose depending on the source! He died during the arrest, yes, but the cops certainly did not murder him; the huge amount of drugs in his system did, combined with his highly agitated demeanor, which you can also see blow in the new 8 minute footage, I’ll link it for you! IMHO you need to watch this footage and read these links before anyone has any opinion on the conduct of those police officers in apprehending Floyd. While a “homicide” was ruled on the autopsy, that is not the legal definition of homicide, and implies zero guilt. Please note the toxicology.

Footage of arrest, unedited, showing his wildly agitated state and his obvious inebriation: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YPSwqp5fdIw

Even his friends (who are violent criminals with long arrest records, like Floyd himself) said “he’s not all there!’ to the cops.

Dawg August 7, 2020 at 1:08 PM

I would say let them riot, burn, and destroy the city until there’s nothing left. But I have some friends that live in Portland and I don’t want to to see them suffer. The city should call in the National Guard and let them have at it without any restrictions. Most of the rioters are from out of state and are camping out in tents, the Guard can easily round them up while they are sleeping.
Another thing the city can do is monitor social media, this is how the rioters communicate, find out who is financing the rioting and sic the Feds on them. They can be charged with federal conspiracy crimes and sentenced to prison. Local and state crimes will only result in a slap on the wrist.

Sam August 7, 2020 at 1:10 PM

There is not an infinite amount of idiots willing to actively cause chaos. All they would have to do is keep them in jail for their crimes. At least on the second offense pending trial. The judge is an activist too and let’s them out over and over. The whole thing can be stopped in 1-2 days if they don’t get out immediately and are held accountable.

anon August 7, 2020 at 9:22 PM

Liberals, even liberal judges, only care about hurting those they hate, they do not care about the rule of law. Fairness was never an objective for them, it’s something they actively despise.

MoJo August 7, 2020 at 1:14 PM

Apparently nothing can be done to stop the violence until the leadership of Portland is replaced. Last night some rioters blocked the door to a police precinct and attempted to light it on fire with officers inside. The Mayor of Portland told everyone to stop this behavior because they were giving Trump ammunition to use in his re-election campaign. There you have it!

Roz August 7, 2020 at 1:15 PM

I really have NO idea how they will or want to deal with. How many more Cities are going to be hit and burn to the ground or totally taken over? Is San Francisco next? Are we going to be SAFE even here? In 6 months time, Life has changed so much, and don’t see it getting better for a long time.

kate August 7, 2020 at 1:22 PM

First thing is recall the city council and the mayor. Get people in who will help the people who live there.

Chalkboy8 August 7, 2020 at 3:13 PM

Some business owners are suing Seattle for not providing police protection.

franko August 7, 2020 at 1:22 PM

Nothing about these activities are related to any Black support. These are anti-government anarchists, no less.

anon August 7, 2020 at 9:24 PM

LIES! Watch the streams, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YZSf0rsM6bs, tons of BLM posters, signs, chants, lots of black people, lots of violent Marxist criminals of every color.

HappyPappy August 7, 2020 at 1:22 PM

Hello. won’t recognize me? That’s OK; I Understand. Maybe claycord won’t even allow this to be posted.
My name was Antonio West. I was the child who was shot in the face and killed at point blank range by two black teens, who were attempting to rob my mother, who was also shot. I think my murder and my mommy’s wounding made the news for maybe a day, and then disappeared.

A Grand Jury of my mommy’s peers from Brunswick, Georgia ruled the black teens who murdered me will not face the death penalty… too bad it was me who got the death sentence from my killers instead, because Mommy didn’t have the money they demanded. See, my family made the mistake of being white in a 73% non-white neighborhood, but my murder wasn’t ruled a ‘hate crime’.

I’m one of the youngest murder victims in our great Nation’s history, but the media didn’t care to cover the story of my being killed in cold blood.

There isn’t a white equivalent of Al Sharpton, because if there was he would be branded a ‘racist’. So no one’s rushing to Brunswick, Georgia to demonstrate and demand ‘justice’ for me. There’s no ‘White Panther’ party, either, to put a bounty on the lives of the two black teens who murdered me.

I have no voice, I have no representation, and unlike those who shot me in the face while I sat innocently in my stroller – I no longer have my life. Isn’t this a great country?

So while you’re out seeking ‘justice for Trayvon’ and Michael Brown, please remember to seek ‘justice’ for me. Tell your friends about me, tell you families, get tee-shirts with my face on them, and make the world pay attention, just like you did for Trayvon. I won’t hold my breath, I don’t have to anymore.

Part II:
7/18- Jimmie Norman, white male murdered by black male. No national news.
7/18- Terry Taylor, white male murdered by black male. No national news.
7/17- Cindy Raygoza, white female murdered by black male. No national news.
7/11- Luis Aguilar, 91 year old hispanic male murdered by black male. No national news.
7/10- Brittany Simpson, white female murdered by black male. No national news.
7/6- Sarah Goode, white female murdered by black male. No national news.
7/6- Jeffrey Westerfield, white male murdered by black male. No national news.
7/5- Perry Renn, white male murdered by black male. No national news.
7/3- Laurey Kennedy, white female still in coma from beating by black male. No national news.
7/3 Eric Mollet, white male murdered by black male. No national news.
7/2 Rupert Anderson, white male murdered by black male. No national news.
7/2 Jennifer Kingeter, white female murdered by black male. No national news.
6/30 Jim Brennan, white male, murdered by black male. No national news.
6/29 Paul Shephard, white male, murdered by black male. No national news.
6/27 Shirley Barone, white female, murdered by black male. No national news.
6/27 Penelope Spencer, white female, murdered by black male. No national news.
6/27 Inga Evans, white female, murdered by black male. No national news.
6/26 Jake Rameau, white male, murdered by black male. No national news.
6/25 Gina Burger, white female, murdered by black male. No national news.
6/24 Nathan Dasher, white male, murdered by black male. No national news.
6/22 Jonathan Price, white male, murdered by black male. No national news.
6/20 John Whitmore, white male, murdered by black male. No national news.
6/18 John Yingling, white male, murdered by black male. No national news.
6/17 Allyn Reeves, white male, murdered by black male. No national news.
6/15 Michael Beaver, white male, murdered by black male. No national news.
6/11 Angela Cook, white female, murdered by black male. No national news.
6/11 Nathan Hall, white male, murdered by black male. No national news.
6/7 Harry Briggs, white male, murdered by black male. No national news.
6/5 Laura Bachman, white female, murdered by black male. No national news.
6/2 Robert Mohler, white male, murdered by black male. No national news.
6/1 William Headley, white male, murdered by black male. No national news.

All this in just 48 days yet no national news. Want to know why?
Because this happens EVERY single day in America and we are used to it.

Yet a THUG getting shot by a Police Officer doing his job, 20 minutes after the THUG committed a robbery, makes national news! So why is this everyday phenomenal rate of blacks killing whites, not to mention the far worse rate at which blacks kill each other, generates riots or is addressed by black leaders as a problem within their community, but an occasional killing of a black by a white police officer, a black who is usually doing something dangerously criminal, becomes a riot?

When the statistics speak we see that there is an epidemic of violence coming from within the black community that seriously endangers the remainder of the population. So, where is the true injustice and tragedy?

Puffandstuff August 7, 2020 at 2:00 PM

@happy pappy
Thank you

Ricardoh August 7, 2020 at 2:16 PM

For sure we live in an upside down world. The people with the biggest and loudest mouth win. You don’t have to be right you just need the loudest mouth.

Sancho Panza August 7, 2020 at 2:25 PM

@HappyPappy~I enjoyed reading your commentary…what a travesty
of justice for the above mentioned individuals, none of which I recognized by name! Well, the media chose not to cover their death, as it didn’t fit their narrative…

AnimalLover August 7, 2020 at 2:47 PM

@HappyPappy
What a stunning comment. Has to be one of the most touching and important I’ve read here. Thank You for having the courage to post it.

It's Me August 7, 2020 at 2:47 PM

@Happy Pappy
Thank you so much!
It is time for us to speak up. To expect and demand our trusted servants to serve “We The People”.
#SilentMajority
Silent no more.

Max August 7, 2020 at 4:13 PM

Every life matters, and I’m not racist for saying it. Policemen killing blacks is not common, where as blacks killing whites, has been for decades. 30 yrs ago 2 blacks tried to steal a middle aged lady’s purse as she was walking from the bus stop to her job at Higbee’;s in Cleveland Ohio. When I was a kid near Cleveland we went Christmas shopping in down town Cleveland every yr, and always stopped in to see our Aunt Frieda. I guess she hung on to her purse, and the thugs shot and killed her in front of the Higbee Dept store early one morning. to take her purse . I am sure it didn’t have much cash in it–too bad- too sad. Not national news. Barely local news, too common. Just a family member. 30 yrs later, still happens. It will be worse as jails are opened and police are defunded. I am pissed. We need law and order, vote the Liberals out or it will get worse..

Cyn August 7, 2020 at 4:16 PM

@HappyPappy
In agreement with Puff, Ricardoh, Sancho, Animal and It’s Me.

Dawg August 7, 2020 at 4:25 PM

Great post Happy Pappy, the truth needs to be heard.

FPN August 7, 2020 at 7:51 PM

HappyPappy, Thank you for the info. The reason black on white crime is not reported is the black community has the victim card and they wont share.

anon August 7, 2020 at 9:27 PM

This could be a good copypasta.

Keep on keepin’ on!

Guido August 8, 2020 at 8:57 AM

I feel sorry for your hatred. Peace be with you always…

Guido August 8, 2020 at 5:02 PM

HappyPappy,
I hate to inform you, but your writing has absolutely no meaning in regards to the purpose of BLM. BLM is about how our militarized police continually target black men on a regular basis, and have been since the days they rounded up black, runaway slaves. BLM is about police killing blacks. Why do you think George Floyd was constantly saying to the police don’t shoot me, and he knew the one officer that killed him! They had a bad relationship, when they worked together as security guards. The Black Panthers used to follow the Oakland Police around, just to document their wrong doings to blacks. Until this country accepts our inherent racism, we are doomed to repeat these sins for eternity!

To Do List August 8, 2020 at 5:51 PM

Guido: Why don’t you get that information directly? Go to the official BLM website, click on the first big link What Matters, and then What Matters 2020. The first sentence is “BLM’s #WhatMatters2020 is a campaign aimed to maximize the impact of the BLM movement by galvanizing BLM supporters and allies to the polls in the 2020 U.S Presidential election…” BLM is a Marxist organization using race as a lever to impact politics. If they cared at all about black lives, we would not have those quotes in the Chicago newspapers of blacks pleading for them to help with the gun violence and getting nothing but crickets in return.

Additionally you can do a Google search of “cpusa the-basics-of-marxist-strategy-and-tactics” and 19 minutes into this Communist Party of the USA 2017 lecture one of the bullet points says, “Build a massive resistance fused with a radical anti-racism.” You are being used and don’t even know it.

Sam August 8, 2020 at 6:28 PM

@guido Says the guy who posts with a racist name on Claycord.

gui·do
nounINFORMAL•DEROGATORY
a man, especially an Italian American, regarded as vain, aggressively masculine, and socially unsophisticated.

I’m offended. You may as well use the n word

Rollo Tomasi August 9, 2020 at 12:34 AM

@Guido:

“BLM is about how our militarized police continually target black men on a regular basis, and have been since the days they rounded up black, runaway slaves.”

Unfortunately for you and BLM, the there is no data to support that assertion. What you have is anecdotes and media sensationalized click bait. When one factors in the disproportionate rate at which blacks commit crimes and therefore interact with police, there is no evidence of racial bias in policing.

JazzMan August 7, 2020 at 1:25 PM

Obvious answer is to get the “federal “ officers out. Kidnapping and beating innocent protesters. Back off with that violence and things will calm down substantially.

ERas August 7, 2020 at 2:22 PM

Actually the feds left last week (Thursday I believe) and now the rioters just switched targets and are targeting the local law enforcement and precincts. The situation didn’t calm down.

Shiloh August 7, 2020 at 5:15 PM

JazzMan smoking those jazz cigarettes 🙄
The Feds are not there but they need to come BACK

anon August 7, 2020 at 9:28 PM

Feds were arresting violent protestors, rioters, thugs and thieves, you silly goose. There is extreme surveillance every night of these Communists and those who cross the line are arrested by authorities when the opportunity comes. An arrest is not an abduction.

Martinezmike August 7, 2020 at 1:25 PM

Enforce the law.

To Do List August 7, 2020 at 1:26 PM

Is it really bad? I see it as a useful example of what progressive/BLM/Marxist civilization or lack thereof will give us. If you want what they are selling, go Google up some images of their world. Look at their protests with arson, vandalism, and looting at night by people of color, and by day pasty-white girls desperately in need of a tan with approved facemasks screaming in the faces of police, and then decide if you want to vote Democrat or Republican.

anon August 7, 2020 at 9:33 PM

Even if we win this round, this will likely be last Republican president ever thanks to demographic changes and dying off of elderly whites. Latinos simply vote Democrat, and they have been let in in immense numbers while reproducing at two or three times the rates of others. This is all according to the plan, of course.

Sam August 8, 2020 at 8:13 AM

That’s wishful thinking democrat magic. Latinos in general are conservative. In addition to that, illegal immigrants can’t vote. This has been a hopeful talking point of democrats for a long time. But like most things they believe it’s imaginary. I know my legal Mexican friends are voting trump without a doubt. Side note indoctrinated 15 year olds can’t vote either so that’s about that. Without blacks, 15 year olds and illegals the ludicrous left has nobody’s support. Hence the COVID distractions

Nope! August 7, 2020 at 1:29 PM

Pretty clearly, mass arrests of people breaking the law and real jail time. No “catch and release”

concord grape August 7, 2020 at 1:34 PM

water cannons filled with skunk scent

Chalkboy8 August 7, 2020 at 3:18 PM

Where can they get cobra venom? Seriously, the optics of using water cannons didn’t look good in the 1960s and won’t look good now.

The police need to step up and step out. The cuck mayors in Seattle and Portland are ordering the coppers to stand down.

anon August 7, 2020 at 1:37 PM

Why don’t they use water cannons on them? It works in other countries.

Kirkwood August 7, 2020 at 4:41 PM

Water cannons are illegal in the U.S.

whome August 7, 2020 at 1:42 PM

It is an extremely sad day when a city, a state, the residents, law enforcement and EVERYONE (‘cept Trump) allows this crap to continue.

I absolutely cannot believe that this can be allowed to go on for so long. Yeah, it’s antfa’s backyard, but it’s insane.

The bullies are being allowed to run the streets and cause havoc, and no one is stopping it. Signalling that it’s okay to do…

I say shoot them with lethal or non lethal until they go back home to their parents basements.

Noj August 7, 2020 at 1:48 PM

After weeks of trashing our president and the federal troops he sent to protect federal buildings, Wheeler is complaining about the violence. Here’s what he said in his news conference today: ““Don’t think for a moment that if you are participating in this activity, you are not being a prop for the reelection campaign of Donald Trump — because you absolutely are, If you don’t want to be part of that, then don’t show up.”
Dude’s city is burnt toast and he still has Donald Trump living rent free in his brain. Truth is, the elections are just a short time away and the Democrat mayors and governors are panicked. And I mean big time panic. Personally, I say let them tear Portland down. Vote to bring in conservative freedom lovers who love and respect our nation. Not all republicans are conservative either.

Animal, I hear you on your move to Grants Pass. Oregonians love Californians that move there just to “blend,” and who don’t want to change Oregon into the suck that is California.

Original G August 7, 2020 at 1:59 PM

Short term recall both mayor, governor, declare 7 pm to 5 am curfew and if that doesn’t work martial law.
Start Federal Trials of those charged with Federal crimes.
(Portland Federal buildings)

A few 20 year sentences in Federal Prison should do it.

The Mamba August 7, 2020 at 2:00 PM

Arrest them, throw them in jail, of course. But Portland really has no interest in that, they enjoy rolling around in their own filth. It’s a political question, how much are the citizens willing to take before enough is enough?

ZZ August 7, 2020 at 2:15 PM

What do you mean there’s a riot going on in Portland, Oregon? Representative Jerry Nadler said it wasn’t true, it’s not happening. And that Hawaiian representative says that the black lives matter manifesto is freedom of speech. Nothing going on here…

RANDOM TASK August 7, 2020 at 2:32 PM

well when a liberal mayor bends over for political attention
then the liberal politicians do the same
what you get is Portland and seattle
far left liberal socialists allowing illegal activity is the norm now
if you live in a place where democrat politicians are allowing and encouraging riots and crime and not protecting American citizens
well its your fault if this is happening and you don’t like it
what did you think would happen when liberalites plundered your civil rights like a thief in the night

Tyler August 7, 2020 at 2:53 PM

Two options.

1. Call in the guard and put a full lockdown into effect. Target out the violent antagonists, ANTIFA, and treat them as the terrorist scum they are.

2. Recall all law enforcement from the city and other crucial services like FD and let that liberal haven burn to the ground.

Chalkboy8 August 7, 2020 at 3:10 PM

The police can block the streets off and arrest people as they leave.

Rob August 7, 2020 at 2:58 PM

1) The violence started after Federal Jackbooted Unmarked Thugs moved in and started the violence.

2) The history of the US is full of violence to get change. A bunch of white people left the US and started a Civil War that lead to over 600,000 dead just to keep owning slaves. And yes, that’s was it was ultimately about.

3) To get Civil Rights Laws passed it required literally having police beat the hell out of people, let loose dogs and firehose on national television before Americans realized something had to change.

We have taught people that violence is how we change things in the United States.

Liar! Liar! August 7, 2020 at 3:27 PM

When your very first sentence is such a blatant lie, then we know everything you say is bull.

Sam August 7, 2020 at 3:33 PM

All lies. This has been going on for months. You just can’t lie like that

Noj August 7, 2020 at 3:48 PM

…”3) To get Civil Rights Laws passed it required literally having police beat the hell out of people, let loose dogs and firehose on national television before Americans realized something had to change.”

However, the police beatings, murders, loose dogs and firehoses were courtesy of the Democrats in the south. You can learn about it here:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dixiecrat#:~:text=The%20States'%20Rights%20Democratic%20Party,active%20primarily%20in%20the%20South.

The Wizard August 7, 2020 at 3:52 PM

Rob…You must get your info from Jerry Nadler.

The Fearless Spectator August 7, 2020 at 4:15 PM

Incorrect. The violence started with CHUMP in Washington where blacks started shooting each other, and then migrated to Portland. Weak Government made the problem worse, not the Feds.

Today’s protestor/rioters act up because their own lives suck, and they blame everyone but themselves.

ZZ August 7, 2020 at 4:57 PM

What a troll. Well, I hope you are, because your comments are either complete lies or uneducated statements.

Shiloh August 7, 2020 at 5:16 PM

Rob, you are speaking nonsense lol

Led August 7, 2020 at 11:05 PM

So Rob is saying that these rioters are comparable to the secessionist slave-holding South, and to the racist cops enforcing and defending Jim Crow. You know what? That doesn’t sound too complimentary!

Concord74 August 8, 2020 at 9:07 AM

This poster “Rob” is a immature individual. He accomplished to trigger intense responses from CLAYCORD posters as probably was his intent. I also think he BELIEVES what he is spouting!

Rollo Tomasi August 9, 2020 at 12:38 AM

Don’t bother. Rob has never shown the stones to reply to comments critical of his own.

Chalkboy8 August 7, 2020 at 3:08 PM

The governor of Oregon is our own former governor, Jerry “Ahole” Brown’s sister. This proves that the Brown family has never held a real job.

As to the rioters, just go in and start arresting anybody that is in the area, especially those with the lasers. The laser’s point both ways. They can identify these idiots eventhough they are in black masks because these cucks wear hello kitty backpacks, distinctive shirts and pink hats

The police need to use their words— “you are under arrest soyboy”

Anon August 7, 2020 at 4:26 PM

Law & Order 2020 is what I’ll be voting for.

You people who claim “science” is on your side, too bad ignore common sense, rule of law and statistics.

Justifiable languor August 7, 2020 at 4:48 PM

Curfew. Arrest the violent ones first. Detain them until their financer is found. Arrest their leaders. Arrest the mayor’s and governors that protect them. They are an organized crime gang at the very least.

SF oh August 7, 2020 at 5:04 PM

I always find it so strange that some people can be so easily led and get so caught up in things. These are probably the same lunatics that were screaming about climate change a few months ago – now they’re setting buildings on fire with Molotov cocktails. I don’t think their former inspirational leader, Greta, would approve. But the hell with Greta, now they’re – temporarily- on a SJW rant. (Until the next shiny cause is dangled in front of their faces). They’re like people who join a cult. Just useful idiots for the people taking advantage of them. They’re out there living in squalor, risking their lives, or possibly ending up in prison for Federal offenses. They don’t even realize they’re being used by clever manipulators pushing an agenda and lining their own pockets. However, in answer to the question, I’d say do nothing. The Dems wanted this – they got it – let them deal with it. Absolutely NO Federal funds to help rebuild!

Concord74 August 8, 2020 at 9:11 AM

There is speculation that these miscreant are funded by George Soros. It would almost be impossible to try and convict him. Think Al Capone!

BURNBABYBURN August 7, 2020 at 5:25 PM

Defund the police, and hire peace counselors to negotiate a truce. Then have a meeting to discuss the protesters demands. When demands of the protesters are agreed to, and the negotiators have left, use surplus Napalm to peacefully send the protesters to where they belong.

AnimalLover August 7, 2020 at 5:39 PM

“It has been nearly a quarter century since New York City experienced as much gun violence in the month of June as it has seen this year.
The city logged 125 shootings in the first three weeks of the month, more than double the number recorded over the same period last year, police data show. Gunmen opened fire during house parties, barbecues and dice games, and carried out coldly calculated street executions.”
Source: New York Times

Mayor of New York = Democrat
Governor of New York = Democrat
Senators from New York = Democrat
Congresspersons from New York = 21 out of 27 are Democrats
New York ranks 4th in the nation with the stickiest gun laws.

Of course, it’s Trump’s Fault. And when you look in the mirror you see Marilyn Monroe/Cary Grant.

Concord74 August 8, 2020 at 9:16 AM

You forgot to include: Jane Fonda, George Clooney, Susan Sarandon, Brad Pitt, Robert DeNiro, …….
I thought Democrats were the supporters of the working man??

The Wizzard August 7, 2020 at 6:46 PM

Lock up these Marxist Punks.

db coop August 7, 2020 at 7:57 PM

The reason they are acting out is because they know theyre not gonna be jailed for any length of time . Any one seen committing vandalism or arson should be arrested and federally charged . Were not talking about peaceful protesters

caskydiver August 7, 2020 at 8:24 PM

Uh,….how ’bout enforcing the law?

anon August 7, 2020 at 9:06 PM

If you watch the streams they are mostly violent Communist anarchists, openly and publicly, when asked. They are essentially fifth columnists for the Chinese at this point.

Vote Republican.

anon August 7, 2020 at 9:10 PM

Did you guys see the new released footage of the George Floyd arrest? 8 minutes 32 seconds of truth they didn’t want you to see. He is wildly resisting and being completely unpredictable, the police are generally being very kind until things hit the fan, and he is complaining about not being able to breathe (due to 2x lethal dose of fentanyl in his system combined with hysteria and panic) while he is standing and no one is touching him.

None of this would be happening if people had access to the full video months ago. A liberal judge gag order kept people from the real truth, and cost dozens of lives and billions in dollars.

Liberals do not believe in the rule of law, they do not believe in fair play; they care about scalping those who they perceive to be enemies.

Led August 7, 2020 at 11:07 PM

But what does that change, really? Everybody knew he must have been resisting arrest. We already knew about the fentanyl. It remains the case that Chauvin knelt on his neck for two minutes *after* they checked for a pulse and didn’t find it.

Brandi August 8, 2020 at 10:11 AM

They both worked at the same night club. Chauvin moonlighted there doing security & Floyd worked the entrance checking ID’s.
They knew each other & did NOT like each other at all.
Race may not have even entered into this.
Chauvin may have been so brutal with him just because he just hated the guy…. does he have to be a racist to abuse someone he dislikes?
The overly sensitive social justice warriors jumped to the conclusion and blew this thing up as a strictly racial matter before they even had the facts.
If George Floyd had been a white man this would never have been more than a local issue.

Guido August 8, 2020 at 1:41 PM

What a crock! The man still did not deserve to be killed! The video shows a man certainly experiencing high anxiety, whether due to drugs or mental instability, he did not deserve to die! The situation could have been handled very differently than having to use extreme force which often only worsens a situation. Did you know that the officer that murdered Floyd once worked security with him in a Nightclub? There was prior dislike of Floyd by this officer!

Rollo Tomasi August 9, 2020 at 12:42 AM

@Guido:

Other than your subjective opinions, your comment included some actual facts. So please tell us where we find the racial element in Floyd’s death at the hands of the officer?

Andrew August 8, 2020 at 12:57 AM

Nothing. Oregon is basically becoming our twin sister state (which is why I plan on moving to bend next year)

Concord74 August 8, 2020 at 9:22 AM

Are you nuts??!!

Guido August 8, 2020 at 7:12 AM

I have friends that live in Portland. 90% of the protests are peaceful and guaranteed under our Constitutional Rights. If folks would stop listening to corporate news and seek out independent media, they would learn this truth. Anyone damaging property or committing violence should be dealt with by the local police. ATIFA and BLM are not violent groups. Many white supremacists have been responsible for the violence.

Concord74 August 8, 2020 at 9:21 AM

Are you serious?? You really believe what you are posting?

Guido August 8, 2020 at 9:52 AM

Yes, I do Concord74! If you quit watching FOX News, you might learn something. 5 major corporations own 90% of the news we now get in America. Listener supported and independent news services still provide a better picture of the truth.

caskydiver August 8, 2020 at 10:13 AM

ANTIFA and BLM not violent? Where have you been? Your sense of reality is quite warped.

Led August 8, 2020 at 11:31 AM

I believe this, but it doesn’t change the reality that a certain subgroup is violently rioting, attacking police with dangerous projectiles, explosives, lasers, and trying to burn down public property, night after night after night. If ten percent of people at MAGA rallies were commiting arson and attacking police again and again, you wouldn’t hear the media describe the rallies as mostly peaceful. And rightly so!

But anyway, the line isn’t even blurry here: a peaceful March during the day doesn’t look at all the same as a crowd gearing up for street war games and mayhem when night falls. These clashes are not peaceful protests that “escalated” – by this point the pattern is clear and well-established. Night falls, the rioters start trying to burn stuff and injure police. Period.

Guido August 9, 2020 at 9:27 AM

Guido is also an Italian first name, still used today by many.

In the 1930’s to 40’s, there were several socialist and communist organizations in the USA. Many city mayors ran on socialist platforms and won. Social Security and Medicare are considered Socialized Programs. FDR was trying to promote a second bill of rights protecting human needs.

Corporate Free Journalism:

Democracy Now
The Intercept
Truth Out
Truth Dig
KPFA FM radio

Sam August 9, 2020 at 10:29 AM

Of course you have friends in Portland..

What’s more important then corporate free journalism you ask?
-Ideology free journalism-
You act like just because an organization is not corporate owned that it can’t be bias. Then you give examples such as democracy now..get real, if that organization is not complete a leftist garbage rag I don’t know what is.
The word “Socialized” Is used to signify the abstract that those two programs are. We live in a mixed economy. Leaning capitalist with some socialized aspects. We are not a communist country with some capitalist aspects.

The Intercept? August 9, 2020 at 10:36 AM

Look at that list. It’s no wonder Guido has no real facts, only propaganda.

To Do List August 9, 2020 at 1:42 PM

Democracy Now! Fun stuff. I really liked one story they did a while back on illegal aliens. They focused particularly on this one young guy who literally splashed across the border in the middle of the night. He was attending Cal State something for free. Housing, free. He did not have the class to even sit in a chair during the interview. He was lying on his bed wolfing down some snack, I believe it was cheetos, talking with his mouth full. Puffing a bit cause he was fat. He was explaining with a smirk on his face that he was a victim. He believed it. And Democracy Now! was spinning the story to show how heroic he was to be there. A heroic victim. Living for free on our tax money and taking the place of a citizen’s kid who did not get in or did not have the money. My mind wandered. Heroic. I have a relative who went up Omaha Beach in WWII under Nazi fire. Yet Democracy Now! ignores such people, and to them the heroes and victims are those wolfing down cheetos and laughing.

Tim August 8, 2020 at 10:53 AM

I also think fire trucks with red colored water might be effective. I can see a future of looting followed by shooting. Martial Law may also be an option if the rioters fail to control themselves. Much business losses and and damage done after “peaceful” BLM demonstrations. BLM has lost my respect and support as a movement long ago.

AnimalLover August 8, 2020 at 11:34 AM

Portland, Oregon Mayor = Democrat
Oregon Governor = Democrat
Oregon Senators = Democrat
Oregon Congresspersons = Democrat

Of course it’s Trumps fault. And when Dumocrats look in the mirror they see Marilyn Monroe/Cary Grant. They are the epitome of Delusional,
“characterized by or holding idiosyncratic beliefs or impressions that are contradicted by reality or rational argument, typically as a symptom of mental disorder.”

ilovepopcorn August 8, 2020 at 1:16 PM

Blaming the Dems is not going to solve the problems. Blaming Trump will not solve anything either. Guess what would work? Fixing the problems!

Peaceful August 8, 2020 at 1:27 PM

They can pretend it’s peaceful, and they can pretend it’s Trump’s fault, but the Rats own the peaceful rioting, arson, murder, and attempted murder in Oregon.

Rollo Tomasi August 9, 2020 at 5:25 PM

“Blaming the Dems is not going to solve the problems. Blaming Trump will not solve anything either. Guess what would work? Fixing the problems!”

Good point. If you have any principles whatsoever, apply that wisdom to the President’s efforts regarding coronavirus

Kirkwood August 8, 2020 at 2:30 PM

During the Berkeley Riots in the ’70’s Police rounded up protestors/rioters and transported them to the Santa Rita Jail by the busload, where they were processed and released. Hippies considered it a participation trophy.

DD August 8, 2020 at 3:03 PM

Grow a pair.

chuckie the troll August 8, 2020 at 8:59 PM

“Kill them all and let God sort them out” comes to mind. I would place snipers on surrounding rooftops. When someone is about to throw a Molotov “cocktail” or large “incendiary” device, like a large Roman candle at a building or people, it would be shoot to kill. And their “assistants” would all be fair game as well. The only way to melt a SNOWFLAKE is to lite a fire under their assets.

Stop look and listen August 9, 2020 at 5:05 AM

Have federal agents bring in puppies and kittens, play mamas and the papa’s and the like. I like previously known as cat Stevens’ peacetrain. Put lavender in a mega monster diffuser, offer chamomile infused drinks….

The Fearless Spectator August 9, 2020 at 9:07 AM

If the Feds cut off all funding of any kind, things in Oregon would change rapidly.

The citizens (You know, the ones who want to work) would immediately turn on the rioters/protesters and local Government. Their sheer number would run the rioters/protesters out of town, and force the resignation of their weak government.

The majority want a nice, safe, well financed and governed state. The problem is the majority have not taken charge yet.

Randy August 9, 2020 at 12:30 PM

…… mandatory curfew

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