Claycord – Talk About Politics

May 22, 2020 19:02 pm · 78 comments

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wave May 22, 2020 at 7:07 PM

Dump Trump in November 2020 !!!!

SOS May 23, 2020 at 9:40 PM

Hump Trump in 2020! May he reign as president forever.

jjshawk May 23, 2020 at 10:14 PM

That’s contingent upon who will be Biden’s running mate. The Vice President will become the President. If I could vote for his running mate (alone) as President, then I will entertain the idea of casting a vote for Biden. However, If Clinton, Warren, or Harris are either of Biden’s choices, then forget it. I am voting for Trump, more than likely. Both parties have been giving us “doggy-crap” candidates, for the last 20 years. America needs a “Hero”.

Sam May 22, 2020 at 7:19 PM

Joe Biden interesting behavior the last 8 months

Original G May 22, 2020 at 7:53 PM

Newsom said, . . . . “Every Californian, including our undocumented neighbors and friends, should know that California is here to support them during this crisis,” Newsom said

Last Monday $75 million was offered in $500 gifts to illegal immigrants on a first come first serve basis. Is said the demand was so heavy phone lines crashed.

Also on Monday newson talking about $54B budget deficit CA now has as result of him shutting down the state.

He said regarding cuts to CA’s budget going forward,

“The folks who are out there, the true heroes of this pandemic, are healthcare workers and nurses. …
They’re the first ones to be laid off.”

Since when do politicians we elect work for people of
other countries, and where do they get off possibly threatening safety of our families in an emergency when first responders are needed ? ?

Sam May 22, 2020 at 8:46 PM

“Since when do politicians we elect work for people of other countries, and where do they get off possibly threatening safety of our families in an emergency when first responders are needed ? ?”
👆🏼THIS ABOUT SOMES IT UP FOLKS👆🏼

The Fearless Spectator May 22, 2020 at 10:15 PM

He is carefully setting up his spin: If our Western states co-op doesn’t get it’s requested $1 Trillion from the feds, then it’s the feds fault these people get laid off. In other words, “Hey I’m just the messenger here, it’s the feds fault, no mismanagement here”.

Then how did California go from a $21 Billion surplus to a $54 Billion deficit in less than 90 days?

I’ll ask again for the third time: Where are the $1 Billion worth of masks our Governor ordered from China?

The Wizard May 22, 2020 at 7:56 PM

How about that Joe Biden, he sure put his foot in his mouth today.
Is this the best the Dems can do ? Does Joe even know he is running for President ?

Silva May 22, 2020 at 8:43 PM

At least he knows enough to apologize when he says something stupid.

The Wizard May 22, 2020 at 9:22 PM

Silva, His handlers told him, he did not have a clue. And that’s the same thing that will happen if he is President…He will be AOC’s Puppet…a figure head.

TT May 22, 2020 at 9:40 PM

I bet him & his team really thought that was going to go over well. LOL

Steven Powers May 22, 2020 at 10:49 PM

Silvia, so identifying a specific race of people is ok for one party. How about asking Americans to make a decision on their idea of the best candidate. Let the voters decide…. don’t group a specific race with one idea or candidate.. Biden made a mistake

The Wizard May 22, 2020 at 9:25 PM

The more Joe opens his mouth the better it is for Trump.Get ready for a Landslide

PO'd May 23, 2020 at 4:40 AM

That’s why they need to keep him away from cameras and microphones down in his basement. Hard to believe he is their best choice. What an election cycle.

Captain Bebops May 23, 2020 at 1:17 PM

Biden is not their best choice. They’re scared to death of Bernie who won this state. Their corporate handlers don’t want Bernie to take away their toys. BTW, I know conservatives who say they would vote for Bernie over Trump.

Captive in California May 22, 2020 at 10:27 PM

I’d like to know if Kate Steinle’s family still lives in Pleasanton and pays taxes to have the illegals live amongst them. I’d like to know how Gavin would justify this to their faces.in his raspy voice with his smelly breath on his tippy toes in his patent leather heels. The guy never had to operate a vehicle in SF, just staggered from bar to bar and walked a few steps to his limo falling off the curb. Saw Guilfoyle come in and give him a cold reception at Balboa before she looked like Darcy from 90 Day Fiance. Tell me how he is capable of making any real-life decisions for the rest of us. If it had been his daughter who joined him for a bad meal at Perry’s before getting shot on the Embarcadero it would all be a very different story. Instead, he married late and took underaged women drinking at society parties and took advanta. ge of everyone’s amnesia. WISE UP CALIFORNIA

Well??!! May 23, 2020 at 1:19 AM

Thank you Captive for bringing all of this up. I have tried to post about Newsom’s behavior during the California democratic state convention in San Diego, but Claycord didn’t let me, but I will try again. One of my closest friends worked security at Gavin’s hotel and witnessed incredible drug and sex fueled “parties” going in and out of his “governors suite”. The man is a scumbag.

Ricardoh May 23, 2020 at 10:15 AM

I know Kate Steinle’s parents are active in trying to find a cure for childhood cancer. Raising awareness and money for the cause.

SOS May 23, 2020 at 9:45 PM

@WEll??!! … I thought it was classic today when Gavin was up on this tippy toes on TV today telling CA NOT to have AMNESIA about Covid after I just posted this above. The only reason he was elected was due to AMNESIA of the same folks who forgot he brought a Sonoma State junior to Pelosi’s parties, not to mention that fish lipped reality star Erin Brody while he let people poop in the streets while he swigged champage. Drugs, an*l, accepting money under the table, treating women poorly. I would give anything to be able to dig up the thread on SFist wherein his prissy “first partner” who is a self-declared feminist said it’s women’s fault when men cheat in response to the Ruby Tourke scandal.

Captive in California May 23, 2020 at 10:05 PM

Well, well, well
Thank you for this. THe guy is worse than a professional athlete and so petulant.

Hayden Barsotti May 22, 2020 at 10:42 PM

Ever notice that during this shutdown, government workers are still working? I guess it’s only the private sector and businesses that have to fail. Funny too, that some jackass decides that churches are not essential.
So all of us can crowd into Walmart, Target, etc. but can’t sit six feet apart in a church pew???

Sam May 23, 2020 at 8:33 AM

Yes the contra costa times is owned by BANG Bay Area News Group.. check them out.

Concord Grape May 23, 2020 at 9:09 AM

Let’s see, four years of Sleepy Joe or four more years of pompous, habitual lying, juvenile name calling, cyber bully. Choices, choices, choices.

Bobfished May 23, 2020 at 10:25 AM

Sleepy Joe!
He is actually a racist with dementia !

SF oh May 23, 2020 at 12:34 PM

@ Concord Grape – We would not have 4 years of Dementia Joe. We would have about six months of Dementia Joe and 3 1/2 years of the VP: Kamala 🤬 ….. Stacey 🤢 …. Elizabeth 💩 ? No thanks!

Hanne Jeppesen May 23, 2020 at 5:40 PM

I agree that Joe Biden, at this stage in his life, is not the strongest candidate, but when everything is said and done I think he will be better than Trump.

Roz May 23, 2020 at 6:53 PM

@ SF oh ~
Yes, some of us can see the write in the wall, you hit the nail on the head.

The Wizard May 23, 2020 at 9:59 AM

Early morning grammar mistakes made above. I think you get my point.

Bill Cutting May 23, 2020 at 10:01 AM

I think a good question is who owns the Contra Costa Times and why are they trying to influence everybody to vote for Biden and sweep up Gavin Newsom‘s illicit behavior??? …

Sam May 23, 2020 at 12:04 PM

The company is Bay Area News Group or BANG. They control all the drivel that pollutes the air waves here.

Sam May 23, 2020 at 12:14 PM

Alden Global Capital. If you find out who is connected to them you will find who the Contra Costa Times speaks for

Hayden Barsotti May 23, 2020 at 12:46 PM

This Contra CostaTimes is just an extension of the New York Times. It features articles from the LA Times. It is truly very liberal. Seems that every editorial cartoon constantly attacks President Trump. It gets quite old reading this rag.

Ricardoh May 23, 2020 at 10:22 AM

Do you really care?

The Wizard May 23, 2020 at 10:49 AM

To bad Old Joe has no hair to get cut or colored.

The Wizard May 23, 2020 at 10:54 AM

I know Joe paid big bucks for his hair plugs that did not last. Do you notice that he has his hair long in the back to hide his hair plug scar.

TT May 23, 2020 at 11:45 AM

Don’t forget to carry the hot sauce!

Sam May 23, 2020 at 12:01 PM

Trump is not the one that banned you from getting your hair cut and colored. That would be your democrat governors. Trump didn’t take any freedoms only passed on guidance from the CDC. Each and every governor jumped on board to get the cash and power. Now some are holding you hostage from getting your trim..the irony

Cyn May 23, 2020 at 12:02 PM

Ozzie, looks like Pelosi is getting hers done as well. So what?

Cyn May 23, 2020 at 12:05 PM

Thanks for the laugh, Ricardoh.

Sam May 23, 2020 at 12:13 PM

Alden Global Capital. If you find out who is connected to them you will find who the Contra Costa Times speaks for

HappyPappy May 23, 2020 at 1:41 PM

Considering the many knowledgeable folks who post comments here, I was most impressed by and hoping our friends ozzie, potato, mtzman, silva, could help clear up a few questions:
Why did obama’s administration used opposition research, paid for by a the DNC and filled with foreign dirt, to spy on members of the Trump campaign?

Why was Gen. Flynn unmasked by obama’s chief of staff, Joe Biden, Susan Rice, and others?

Why do you think Flynn’s identity was leaked, which is a criminal act, to the press?

Why did the DOJ learn about the FBI’s interest in Flynn’s conversations with the Russian Amb. from a chat with obama in the Oval Office?

Why did Clapper, Brennan, Samantha Power and Susan Rice privately admit under oath that they had no evidence of collusion while saying the opposite publicly? Do you think they’re simply a sack of lying swamp dwellers?

Thanks in advance for sharing your answers to these very simple questions.
I know there are no cowards among you, only upstanding Americans, and we look fwd to your help.

Brandi May 23, 2020 at 3:43 PM

LoL! Trolling for some Liberal Fiction Happy Pappy?

You know they can’t answer that honestly!

Silva May 23, 2020 at 5:25 PM

I don’t know. Why don’t you ask that Steve Hsu dude who wrote the questions in his blog? Seems like if he was going to advance the questions, the least he could do is proffer some hypothesis.

Captive in California May 23, 2020 at 10:11 PM

Add to this list of questions: why did everyone worship Michell Obama as a first lady style icon for wearing mainstream crap when Melania is truly a vision of elegance and style? Do people hate foreigners or do they hate the beautiful? Or do they just hate anything Trump touches? Because let’s face it, Michelle Obama had nothing on her. So when you’re an adult, if nobody likes you, nobody will vote you best dressed in the year book even when it’s the truth? Everyone just stays at the high school herd mentality forever?

Brandi May 24, 2020 at 9:06 AM

@ Anonymous – Of course you know the Democrats were dirty… everybody knows, and you don’t care… you just don’t care… exactly like all the Democrats…. willing to let their crooked officials ignore the Constitution and laws of this country and run things like a 3rd world dictatorship behind closed doors.
Just accept the lies without question… like George Costanza said : “It’s not a lie… if YOU believe it”

The Fearless Spectator May 23, 2020 at 6:31 PM

They are positioning him as “transitional”, which means the real candidate is the VP.

Well let’s see: Michelle Obama has graciously said no thank you, they can’t afford Oprah, Whoopi is way too polarizing, Sharon Osbourne is busy taking care of Ozzy, and most of the Village People are retired.
I guess that leaves Caitlyn Jenner.

Captive in California May 23, 2020 at 10:14 PM

That video with Obama’s head shopped on was the best thing ever created. I’m going to need to look up the hairy legs thing to see where that fits in.

The Wizard May 24, 2020 at 8:02 AM

Pelosi’s eyebrows are getting higher and higher, I wonder why?

The Professor May 26, 2020 at 1:16 PM

One more facelift and she’ll have a goatee.

SF oh May 24, 2020 at 9:39 AM

@ Fearless Spectator- Well, Dementia Joe said earlier that he will choose a woman as a running mate. I’ve read that now, he’s pandering even more, and saying he will choose an AA woman as VP candidate. So,Caitlyn has already had a sex change — if she could find a way to get a Race change, she’d be perfect!! Dementia Joe has never mentioned experience, temperament, judgement, etc. as any prerequisites for a VP candidate. Physical appearance is the only qualification. I think Caitlyn has a shot at it.

Original G May 24, 2020 at 7:08 PM

Regardless of how many accusers come forward against biden need to keep in mind when it comes to liberal media reporting on it, as bumper sticker says, joey fingers has democrat immunity.

Original G May 25, 2020 at 6:59 PM

Way too early yet to tell for sure, could be states governor’s knee jerk copycat antics trashed their state’s economies for nothing. Investigation may find grievous mistakes were made in protecting our elderly, in elder care and nursing homes which made loss of life worse.

Believe there will be changes mandated in HVAC air handling regulations both to kill and minimize spread of airborne pathogens. (UVC)

Being reported, current CDC “best estimate” fatality rate, among Americans who have COVID-19 symptoms, is 0.4 percent.”

Also reported CDC estimates 35 % of people infected with COVID-19 never develop any symptoms.

Robert May 26, 2020 at 9:24 AM

Dear Neighbors and Democrats,

I hope this note finds you exceptionally well and your family are staying safe and healthy right now!

I would be honored to have your support. Please VOTE for me to be Vice President Joe Biden Delegates and represent you and the California Congressional District 11th at the Democratic National Convention this summer.

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There are only 2 days remaining to request your ballot for the virtual Congressional District Caucuses.

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PH Susan May 26, 2020 at 11:34 AM

Ozzie – And you can keep your doctor.

Tossing a number around with no raw data source identified is just whining and crying on your part.

Original G May 26, 2020 at 12:05 PM

Given devastation wrought upon businesses in this state by a copy cat of other liberal governors, don’t be surprised when banks close some of their branches. Was at a nationally known bank’s branch office this morning an saw a sign posted notifying customers that branch was closing 02 July.

For every person out of a job 3 – 5 others with jobs are effected and some may be laid off, effecting even more people.

Ozzie May 26, 2020 at 1:04 PM

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ON DA May 26, 2020 at 1:45 PM

Where was the stop gap Again Oz?

PH Susan May 27, 2020 at 10:32 AM

Apparently, ozzie never reads the rebuttals to his/her claims – but continues to post crap from left-wing sites.

Ozzie – any chance you could learn to think for yourself, instead of being a leftist parrot?

It sounds as though you’ve just changed your name on this site – the attitude is the same as some previous non-thinking liberals….

I hope you grow out of your anger one of these years.

PH Susan May 26, 2020 at 3:09 PM

Ozzie – one more thing…

A few months ago, the media was reporting that experts modeled and predicted that the US was expected to have 2.2 million deaths from the Covid19 (Wuhan) virus.

Yet you take Trump to task where there are less than 100,000 deaths. Where are the accolades for beating the estimates by the “best and brightest”?

Note that (per the CDC web pages), there are about 88,000 deaths EACH YEAR resulting from alcohol. And that’s an ongoing issue. But you’re not concerned about that – so that tells me you’re not interested in deaths from whatever cause – just what you think you can pin on Trump.

Are you intellectually incapable of telling the whole story and therefore have to resort to lying? Or has your Trump Derangement Syndrome just taken over (again)?

I’m sure there are medical facilities available to help you – but you have to be willing to accept help. It seems that you’re suffering from the same maladies that are afflicting sleepy Joe….

I really feel sorry for you, with the level of anger you’ve built up. Im hoping you can find some help.

PH Susan May 26, 2020 at 3:12 PM

It seems that it’s solely about appearances with the Democrats. All of that money wasted on impeachment and they’ve got zero to show for it.

Now they’re whining about him playing golf – while they give themselves another vacation and not do their job.

Don’t even get me started about Governor Slickback and his lies about gas taxes.

Original G May 26, 2020 at 3:34 PM

Find it interesting, relationship between news events or contrived political theater perpetrated by career politicians, reactions from political cartoonists.

Have a dozen or so cartoonist’s pages I visit each day.
Added this one today, after tracking down this cartoon.
https://spectator.org/cartoon/

https://spectator.org/cartoon/corona-vultures/
Campaign contributions from lawyers and law firms to democrat members of congress is well documented.

Ozzie May 26, 2020 at 3:51 PM

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Original G May 26, 2020 at 4:10 PM

For those wondering where this unattributed cut n paste originated. From NPR piece that’s been picked up by a number of broadcast and media outlets.

cut n paste is from first paragraph.
https://www.npr.org/2020/05/26/861401372/unlikely-allies-band-together-in-laredo-to-oppose-the-border-wall

PH Susan May 27, 2020 at 10:34 AM

So now you’re trying your hand at fortune-telling?

Just when I thought ozzie had hit bottom, he sinks even further.

Sad, Check into getting some help.

Ozzie May 26, 2020 at 4:34 PM

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Chicken Little May 26, 2020 at 5:36 PM

In other news, Facebook and other social media outlets also lean to the left. Who knew?

PH Susan May 27, 2020 at 10:37 AM

Ozzie – do you EVER get “information” from places other than those that swing left?

Just because it’s posted on the internet doesn’t mean it’s (a) factual or even (b) spun one way or the other.

You really need to considered learning how to think critically. You’ve not demonstrated it yet, Nancy.

Original G May 27, 2020 at 11:39 AM

Another two paragraphs lifted (copy paste) from where ? ?

Brandi May 26, 2020 at 5:20 PM

Why the hell did they send us stimulus checks if we can’t go out anywhere to spend the money? OPEN UP ! IT IS TIME !

Brandi May 28, 2020 at 9:05 AM

Nothing stymies the grief a community feels for an unjustly murdered criminal like a new TV looted from Target.

Brandi May 28, 2020 at 7:27 PM

Not to mention the benefit that looting and burning down businesses so that those who were allowed to work can now reap the benefit of unemployment insurance and additional authorized payments that are so much more rewarding than working for a paycheck.

Original G May 28, 2020 at 9:47 PM

There have been unconfirmed reports from area of heaviest rioting, The Work Boot Emporium somehow has remained untouched.

HappyPappy May 28, 2020 at 9:41 AM

A tiny rehash for our friends who have difficulty understanding what happened.

For three years, all that the criminal left had to do was yell “Russia! Collusion! Ukraine! Putin!,” and everyone with the inability to think for themselves fell in line.
Ya see folks, it’s tough to get people all worked-up about something they can’t understand.
Watergate was simple: a bumbling break-in followed by a foul-mouthed paranoid president who tried to cover it up, and finally quit in disgrace.
However, with obamagate, after a few minutes of hearing multiple dates, dozens of names, three different continents, myriad fake documents, endless lies and cover-ups by criminal democrats…well, people’s eyes glaze over, and they start thinking, “this really does sound like some sort of crazy conspiracy theory.”
The Gang That Couldn’t Shoot Straight included CIA, the FBI, and the DOJ), as well as obama, the national security adviser, the director of National Intelligence, the FISA court, and overseas intelligence agencies are all DIRTY and should be in prison.
Among the criminal acts were false affidavits; spying on innocent people, including the president-elect; unmasking; and set-ups, such as perjury traps and spies luring people into ambiguous statements that could be used against them.
Then the frenzy escalated to an illegal attempt to overthrow the Trump presidency through a two-year phony investigation that destroyed several people’s lives, even though the special counsel’s office knew from Day One that neither Trump nor his team had done anything wrong. THAT’S YOUR DEMOCRAT PARTY?
Conservatives pretty much knew from the start this was all another dirty trick by filthy scum losers who felt the coming conservative groundswell as the country moved back to the center.
If you’ve had difficulty explaining to people what obamagate is and why it matters, only to have them shrug because it’s just too complicated, If they’re not outraged by what occurred, either they hate Trump so much that nothing will bring them to reason or they really shouldn’t even vote because they care so little about politics, the Constitution, and the rule of law in America.

HappyPappy May 28, 2020 at 1:55 PM

President signs social media Executive Order.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5_4AKRvEPMg

Ozzie May 28, 2020 at 2:35 PM

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HappyPappy May 29, 2020 at 11:47 AM

“Joey Fingers” can’t find a friend –
Nevada Sen. Catherine Cortez Masto withdraws from consideration to be Crazy Joe’s vice presidential pick. Gee……why not?
She was Nevada’s AG in 2006, and had to work with Beau Biden who was then Delaware’s AG. Hmmmm……………….
Cortez Masto is one of the few democrats with integrity, which is exactly why she is not going to run with that BAFOON.

To Do List May 29, 2020 at 2:37 PM

Did she have integrity? If I understand the story correctly in Wikipedia, while this democrat was Nevada attorney general, in the middle of a state campaign for lieutenant governor she filed felony charges against the republican who was running (it was about finances and the charges were later dropped) at the same time her husband was planning a fundraising party for the democratic candidate. She later claimed she never heard about the party. I guess they don’t communicate much.

HappyPappy May 29, 2020 at 3:54 PM

I didn’t know about that stuff, TDL.
If it’s true………well…….I guess she been a bad girl.
Not bad enough to run with Joey Fingers though.
Doesn’t really matter who they run, it’s already over for them.

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