California Politicians Vow To Fight For State Auto Emissions Standards

September 18, 2019 16:00 pm · 63 comments

California Gov. Gavin Newsom, Attorney General Xavier Becerra and state Air Resources Board Chair Mary Nichols vowed on Wednesday to go to court to fight President Donald Trump’s administration’s plan to revoke the state’s authority to set strict auto emissions standards.

“There’s no question we will be in court as soon as we have a document out there. This is the fight of a lifetime,” Nichols said at a Sacramento news conference by the three officials.

Newsom said the legal battle may take “years and years,” but said, “California will prevail because we’re leaders.”

The intent to take away California’s ability to set standards stricter than the federal standards was announced by Trump in a tweet Wednesday. The President said this move will “Produce far less expensive cars for the consumer, while at the same time making the cars substantially SAFER. This will lead to more production because of this pricing and safety advantage, and also due to the fact that older, highly polluting cars, will be replaced by new, extremely environmentally friendly cars.”

He added, “There will be very little difference in emissions between the California Standard and the new U.S. Standard, but the cars will be far safer and much less expensive. Many more cars will be produced under the new and uniform standard, meaning significantly more JOBS, JOBS, JOBS!”

The U.S. Environmental Protection Agency said it will make “a major policy announcement” on Thursday.

Becerra said, “We can’t afford to backslide to the days of dirty air and unregulated emissions.”

Pyrrhus September 18, 2019 at 4:12 PM

Great, so Trump wants Californians to choke to death on smog. You think it’s bad now? Wait until the pollution gets even worse and then you combine that with fires? Say goodbye to your lungs. That nasty cloud you see over LA as you come down the grapevine? Yeah, that’s going to be like how it was in the 70’s.

Come on conservatives, you guys worship Reagan, why not honor the man who worked to get us the exemption int he first place? The good news is that this will be tied up in courts long enough for Trump to get voted out.

Silva September 18, 2019 at 5:22 PM

He knows he’ll never win our vote so he wants vengeance.

Chicken Little September 19, 2019 at 6:45 AM

Oh, get over the doom and gloom BS. Are other states choking on 1970s levels of smog? No, they’re not. Non-California cars are 99.99% as clean as California cars, but cost a lot less. It does no good at all to have cars that are .01% cleaner if people can’t afford to buy them. The more new cars we can get on the road, the better.

Concordejet September 19, 2019 at 4:50 PM

very well said

Original G September 18, 2019 at 4:30 PM

At stop lights while waiting for the green it is not uncommon for engine of vehicle to turn off for what so the manufacturer can make unrealistic mileage numbers An from what I’ve observed cars continue to get smaller adding plastic and using less steel while adding air bags to lessen impact of occupants heads hitting vehicle cabin structure.

There’s no way I’ll ever believe the newer cars are safer.
Little more than air-bagged coffins on wheels.

And Thank You politicians for filing yet another lawsuit, which hopefully makes it to The Supreme Court, for Trump will win.

MoJo September 18, 2019 at 5:40 PM

Newer cars are most definitely safer. I spent 30 years in the Fire Service on an Engine that ran calls on Highway 80. In the 80’s and early 90’s we saw some horrendous accidents and injuries involving older vehicles. Once vehicles starting adding airbags and crumple zones the severity of injuries, even in high speed collisions, went way down. Older vehicles while heavier and more solid don’t give nearly as much so the forces are transferred to the occupants. It’s not unusual to see today’s cars completely destroyed and overturned and have the occupants walk away relatively unscathed, even in smaller cars. I know it seems contrary to logic but it’s true. I witnessed it time and time again. Can people still be thrashed and killed in vehicle accidents? Of course, but give me the newer vehicle with modern engineering and safety features every time.

HooHaa September 19, 2019 at 9:41 AM

Newer cars are definitely safer. The stats don’t lie.

Steel doesn’t make a car safer, would make it more rigid and add more mass, which would send more energy to your body on impact. Airbags protect you. The car might get destroyed but it keeps you safe in the process.

Commonsensenor September 18, 2019 at 4:34 PM

Cali politicians freaking out, willing to go to war against Trump for making it easier for car makers, when we can’t walk on the streets of SF without stepping in poo, needles, or fear of being bitten by the homeless zombies.

Great job!

HappyPappy September 18, 2019 at 4:35 PM

The Sky Is Falling!!!!!

The Arctic Ocean is warming, icebergs are growing scarcer and in some places the seals are finding the water too “hot”, according to a report to the Commerce Department yesterday from the Consulate at Bergen, Norway.
Reports from fishermen, seal hunters and explorers all point to a radical change in climate conditions and hitherto unheard of temperatures in the Arctic zone.
Exploration expeditions report that scarcely any ice has been met.
Great masses of ice have been replaced by moraines of earth and stones, the report continued, while at many points well known glaciers have entirely disappeared.
Very few seals and no white fish are found in the eastern Arctic, while vast shoals of herring and smelts which have never before ventured so far north, are being encountered in the old seal fishing grounds.
Within a few years it is predicted that due to the ice melt the sea will rise and make most coastal cities uninhabitable.

Washington Post, November 2, 1922, 96 years ago.

(who can forget, 20 years ago, that meathead, ted danson, crying about our oceans losing all life by 2010!)
So you go ahead governor and do as your masters demand of you. Soon enough we’ll read of the folly you, Attorney General Xavier Becerra and state Air Resources Board Chair Mary Nichols perpetrated on the voters and you will all be outed as the fools / criminals you truly are.

Original G September 18, 2019 at 4:45 PM

Worth posting again,
“A senior U.N. environmental official says entire nations could be wiped off the face of the Earth by rising sea levels if the global warming trend is not reversed by the year 2000.”
https://www.apnews.com/bd45c372caf118ec99964ea547880cd0

ON DA September 18, 2019 at 4:37 PM

datz the way aha aha

oh

RANDOM TASK September 18, 2019 at 4:38 PM

Newsom said the legal battle may take “years and years,” but said, “California will prevail because we’re leaders.”

leaders in what …..lol
crime and bums …sure are
as far as a eye for the future and enabling the people to flourish
BIG FAT NO

if you mean giving all the school funding to illegals and all the lowincome housing as well creating a housing vacuum that they now blamed on building owners ….lol

or the bridge tolls and 5 tax hikes going to fund illegals as well
measure Q gas tax 1/2 cent tax soda tax …raised bridge tolls 3 times in 5 years all for roads yet roads are the worst and still are

before the dems took control of the state the roads were maintained every 5 years ….scraped and new asphalt added

now they just slurry it so it lasts maybe 2 years …..then say they have no money …and raise taxes again ….

but yeah this article now says they will only make certain vehicles and outlaw others ….hmmm so what union are they beholding to that we are only able to buy what they say we can now ….wow

WELCOME TO COMMUNISM AT ITS WORST ….

next are the bread lines ….and fuel lines …as well as oh yeah you have to live where they say …that will be awesome ….

Gittyup September 18, 2019 at 9:26 PM

I get the feeling Newsom doesn’t even believe anymore what he’s hawking from that podium. It’s like in his time off from politics he took acting lessons or something. He steps up to the microphone telling himself, “I have to sound serious and a little angry.” But, he’s just not convincing. Whenever he issues a soundbite, I expect him at any minute to crack up laughing and say, “Does anybody really believe this bs?”

burnbabyburn September 19, 2019 at 5:16 AM

Answer: leaders in stupidity and hipocrisy. California has laws making it legal for a single driver in a $100,000 newer Tesla to whiz by in a commuter lane while the driver in a $2500 older Ford is sitting in traffic, idling. Seems backwards. The ford would give off less emissions if it was driving in the commuter lane, and the Tesla (no emissions) should be waiting in traffic.

Atticus Thraxx September 18, 2019 at 4:56 PM

I probably won’t live to see it, but I have this picture in my head of all you deniers screaming “Fake News!, Fake News!” while waist deep in water where once there was no water at all. It makes me smile.

Waist deep in something September 18, 2019 at 5:02 PM

You won’t live long enough to see any unicorns either, but thanks for the warm wishes.

HappyPappy September 18, 2019 at 5:35 PM

So then…it must be true……..kool-aid may make one slow and gullible.

Rollo Tomasi September 19, 2019 at 12:56 PM

I, for one, remember being disappointed when NASA discovered the moon isn’t made of cheese.

Dr. Jellyfinger September 19, 2019 at 1:51 PM

This is all going to happen because I don’t recycle….

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bU1QPtOZQZU

Sick of it September 18, 2019 at 5:08 PM

What ever happens will not make any difference. When a car is idling in stop and go traffic it’s going to pollute. But what the heck let’s just keep increasing the population in the state that doesn’t have the natural resources to support so many. But what the heck will say we’re making tape air cleaner. Political BS. I’d be hard pressed to say there is any difference in the exhaust of a out of state car compared to ours

RANDOM TASK September 18, 2019 at 5:15 PM

yes of course AT
high water
I guess straws and manholes will fix that issue so we are saved yay
or maybe higher taxes and bad roads will stop the floods
or hey more illegals and bums that will stop the water right
oh or no maybe more legal garbage for the potus to deal with instead of maybe helping because you respect his position you bully and torment and vilify him and then point out he I snot doing any thing
well accept for wading through dem lying attacks after another
so to sum it up with the Hillary defense
WHAT DIFFERENCE DOES IT MAKE NOW

Gebertx September 18, 2019 at 5:17 PM

If CA would use the Millions wasted on sueing the Federal Government on something to help our problems, that would be a good think, Lawsuits cost big $$, and don’t return a lot

Gittyup September 18, 2019 at 9:43 PM

California — Making Attorney’s Great, Again!

Sam September 18, 2019 at 5:33 PM

Who cares if the ocean rises or lowers or whatever they say it’s gonna do. It doesn’t matter, nobody is changing anything. You ain’t that special I promise. If your so distraught about it just leave. I’m buying up ocean front property in Antarctica, Greenland, and Siberia. Surfs up! California will turn into an island…again. Thanks Al Gore you exploited the low IQs of the world, now we have to listen to nonsense forever. What a crock. You “believers” are like religious wack jobs with this. Must be a hard life.

anotheranon September 18, 2019 at 5:46 PM

Speaking of “listening to nonsense forever”———-

Original G September 18, 2019 at 6:08 PM

Well GOSH, . . . . I’m still waitin’ for that Ice Age they said was coming.
That means sea levels drop.

First it’s an ice age, then greenhouse effect, then global warming, then climate change . . . . Here’s a thought, figure it out and get back to us.

1978-1979,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YkLGzx_sch0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mOC7ePWCHGk

The Fearless Spectator September 18, 2019 at 6:24 PM

One trait all sucessful leaders have in common is the ability to choose which battles to fight. Using that as a litmus test, Mr. Newsom is no leader. Eliminating plastic straws and adding 3 MPG will not change nature in a measurable way. It’s just an attempt to be remembered a certain way in the history books. And he will spend a lot of our money to make sure that rememberance is just terrific.

Perhaps getting a handle on homelessness, crime, and mental illness are a better place to start. Of course that will require results. Focusing on climate change insures he will never be judged on lack of success as any measurable results will be years out.

Mr. Newsom has shown he is not especially good at getting his arms around current, potentially solvable problems. However, he is excellent at getting his arms around other people’s wives. I guess we all have our specialties…..

Cautiously Informed September 18, 2019 at 9:06 PM

The California Democrat politicians don’t ever handle any of the big issues because they don’t have the intelligence, skill, know how and ability to do so. However, they are very good at inventing nothing issues for themselves to handle and resolve, like making it illegal to discriminate against hairstyles.

Randy September 18, 2019 at 6:36 PM

Next trump is getting rid of energy efficient light bulbs because it makes him look orange.

The world will follow CA and trump will look like a fool.

Four automakers agree to meet modified California emissions standards

Companies say it provides ‘regulatory certainty’

https://www.consumeraffairs.com/news/four-automakers-agree-to-meet-modified-california-emissions-standards-072619.html

Sam September 18, 2019 at 6:44 PM

“Orange man bad” let him out of your head for god sakes. You have him trapped inside you. You are obsessed, it’s not healthy.

Sick of it September 18, 2019 at 7:14 PM

The energy efficient bulbs did more damage than regular bulbs. As soon as everyone started using compact fluorescent bulbs mercury levels started climbing from the bulbs being thrown away. But what the heck it’s only mercury it’s not a green house gas right. Maybe that explains the lefts thought process from all the mercury they have absorbed

Original G September 18, 2019 at 7:33 PM

Tell us if you would, which energy efficient light bulb will work as a light in an oven or in a sometimes high humidity environment of a refrigerator or in a stand alone freezer.

Please specify manufacturer and model number of bulbs.

Chicken Little September 19, 2019 at 6:50 AM

Not forcing people to buy energy efficient bulbs is hardly the same as “getting rid of” them. If you like your light bulbs, you can keep your light bulbs.

Sam September 18, 2019 at 6:41 PM

Al Gore net worth in 1996 800k
Al Gore net worth in 2019 300 million
And he’s the king selling low IQs guilt. Eat it up and bow to your daddy in his private jet. Lol too funny. I love global warming. More beach please

Hypocrites September 18, 2019 at 6:48 PM

They’ve allowed the streets to get dirty with all the homeless, so why worry about the air? MAGA!!!!

wesley mouch September 19, 2019 at 6:06 AM

Indeed… as you draw your last breath while expiring from bubonic plague, cholera, typhus, etc, at least it will be clean air. And once the cafe standards are rationalized, the air will still be clean.

Not so much for skid row.

Liar! Liar! September 18, 2019 at 6:55 PM

Randy takes TDS to a whole new level. Do you even understand the nonsense that you post?

The Wizard September 18, 2019 at 7:46 PM

If we could just run a pipeline to Newsom’s hair we would be energy independent..

Gittyup September 18, 2019 at 9:57 PM

Federal government needs to set strict emission standards on Newsom’s hair gel.

John P September 18, 2019 at 8:57 PM

I wouldn’t worry about this minor matter: neither the Republicans nor the Democrats are proposing anything meaningful to deal with the increasing global temperature and the resultant changing climates around the planet. The fact that all the glaciers and the polar ice are melting at an ever-increasing rate means that Kevin Costner’s movie, “Waterworld” wasn’t a historic flop, but a prophetic depiction of what this planet will become.
(Okay, I confess – I went the long way around to use this analogy.)

Dawg September 19, 2019 at 1:36 AM

The Ice Age ended 15,000 years ago and the world has been warming ever since. In the grand scheme of things, 15,000 years is like last week. The media makes it seem as if every scientist and meteorologist agree that it is the fault of humans, and that is not true. There are just as many scientists and meteorologists that say the changing climate is a natural occurrence No scientist has proven definitively that climate change is caused by man.

Chicken Little September 19, 2019 at 6:54 AM

You’re pretty naive if you think humans have any significant control over the climate. It’s going to change whether we all drive electric cars or not. And someday, humans WILL be extinct. That’s just reality. But you know what? The earth will be just fine without us.

John P September 19, 2019 at 11:57 AM

It was a joke, boys. You’ve taken it far too seriously.

nytemuvr September 18, 2019 at 8:57 PM

News flash…California liberals had to throw away millions of undergarments today, seems their panties were too twisted to save.

Rob September 19, 2019 at 7:54 AM

LOL – those panties are Conservatives who are throwing away their belief in State’s Rights.

Smee September 19, 2019 at 2:44 AM

Other than a few sensible exceptions, do any of you actually investigate the science and data behind the climate issue, or do you just rely on Faux News and tweets? (I think I know the answer to that)

Forsythe September 19, 2019 at 5:43 AM

Don’t worry. Cal Trans will get even by adding more toll roads on Highways 680, 24, and 4.

Rob September 19, 2019 at 7:53 AM

LOL – so NOW Conservatives hate State’s Rights…

California is not imposing anything on any other state.

It’s very simple.

California sets emissions for THEIR state.

If auto companies want to sell cars in CA they follow the CA standards – or they are free to simply not sell in CA.

Also, auto companies can make cars for CA and other cars for the other states.

It’s not California’s problem that they have so many people, who buy so many cars that the other puny states feel hurt that they will never have the same influence on the market.

Sam September 19, 2019 at 8:37 AM

Oh but it is California’s problem. Not to mention it’s called interfering with interstate commerce. Sometimes it’s more important than states rights. Quit your division tactics Rob they are played out. “Conservatives” this and that. It’s played. Federal law Trumps state law. California is not special or extra important, get over yourself. You are free to donate all the money you want to whatever cause you are a fan of. I have watched your posts..your a straight hack for progressives. Grow up, be a real person who thinks for yourself. Nobody “feels hurt” that’s just a childish statement like the guy about the lightbulbs making Trump look orange. Just stop already it’s silly

Doh September 19, 2019 at 8:19 AM

The pro-Trump posters have no problem when Trump makes the absurd claim LED light bulbs make only him look orange. The pro-posters pretend it’s only about man caused global warming.

Last week I saw a list of 85 environmental regulations that Trump has rolled back. The list included mining regulations, clean water rules, toxic substances and safety, drilling and extraction, animal regulations, infrastructure rule to protect areas from flooding, child safety from toxic chemicals, etc.

Silva September 19, 2019 at 9:07 AM

Check out how he’s selling off our public lands.

I am I said September 19, 2019 at 9:18 AM

” Trump makes the absurd claim LED light bulbs make only him look orange.” Hahaha OMG I had never heard this before but it sure gave me the giggles.

Jojo Potato September 19, 2019 at 4:41 PM

Also rolled back the standards for things like dishwashers. Is there any sense to this? I’m sure it causes problems for manufacturers to have to change their products constantly. Mr Trump is not doing any favors to companies or consumers with his random changes.

Mr X September 19, 2019 at 9:12 AM

Welcome to the People’s Republic of California. Another example of diverting attention from their numerous policy failures such as homelessness.

Sam Malone September 19, 2019 at 1:26 PM

Politicians stop wasting our taxes of which we are continually over taxed, to fight items and issues that we do not agree with. Use the taxes for issues that affect the hard working over taxed solid base of California. Not the entitlement crowd or illegals. The politicians are a disgrace and pander to the easy vote to keep themselves on the dole. Overtaxed for everything, roads, gasoline, schools. So where is all that tax money going to????????? Stop stealing from the funds to pay for your nonsense. Are you elected officials blind. Can you not see how upset we are? We can vote you out of office.

Original G September 19, 2019 at 2:49 PM

CA liberal politicians are vehemently anti Trump and don’t care how many taxpayer dollars they waste giving him a bad time.

But they will continue because 90 percent of people who voted for these politicians NEVER bother to check up on them, nor do they call them on their juvenile knee jerk antics.

Kirkwood September 19, 2019 at 3:50 PM

I think ALL California environmental standards should apply nationwide. Only states like Montana don’t need them (only about 6 people live there), but as the country grows warmer the population will gradually migrate north.

Original G September 19, 2019 at 9:27 PM

Well if pelosi and the MEGA RICH get their way, in 2024 pelosi’s nephew will run for president.
newsom abrams 2024

Chicken Little September 19, 2019 at 5:05 PM

If this passes, you’ll get your wish. The standards will be the same for the rest of the states as they are for California.

Randy September 19, 2019 at 5:24 PM

Everything trump has done can easily be reversed after he’s gone.

Original G September 19, 2019 at 6:13 PM

Even those152 Judges ? ? ?

An ruth bader ginsburg is 86 . . . . .

Rollo Tomasi September 19, 2019 at 8:28 PM

Someone needs to demand “proof of life” from RBG.

Gittyup September 19, 2019 at 9:38 PM

I love this! Shrink Newsom’s inflated ego down to the actual size of his manhood.

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