Claycord – Talk About Politics

May 10, 2019 19:04 pm · 125 comments


This post is “Talk About Politics”.

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Original G May 10, 2019 at 7:05 PM

Back on 30 June 2004 then Mayor gavin newsom pledged that in ten years the worst of San Francisco’s homeless problem would be gone as he announced his “Ten Year Plan to Abolish Chronic Homelessness.”

Keep in mind newsom was SF city supervisor from 1997 to 2004 then mayor of SF from 2004 to 2011.

Fast forward to 2019,
“Gov. Gavin Newsom wants to double spending on homelessness — to $1 billion”

Justifiable anger May 11, 2019 at 7:30 AM

If only democrats could tax us enough… that bears repeating.

It will never be enough.

The Fearless Spectator May 11, 2019 at 9:22 AM

Some years ago a homeless guy won $10,000 on a Howard Stern game show. They followed him around to see how he spent it. In one week the money was gone.

Whatever the answer may be for the homeless problem, it’s not simply throwing more money at it. We’d all love to see the plan……

Stop May 12, 2019 at 5:12 PM

So at least he tried. What’s the conservative idea? Nothing….just call names and pretend that works as policy

Liar! Liar! May 12, 2019 at 6:51 PM

And the libs keep rewarding bad behavior and pretend that works as policy.

Gittyup May 13, 2019 at 3:28 AM

You can’t hand someone who is homeless $10,000 and expect anything else. Howard Stern should know that and his show thrives because he does stupid, predictable things for the purpose of entertainment. He actually should be ashamed of himself for using the poor homeless individual that way.

It is obvious that many homeless are disheveled. They are mentally ill and need help with some of the basic things like having a place to shower, having clean clothes to put on, getting a haircut. They may not be eating nutritious food. Personally, I don’t see how they could possibly get a single good nights sleep outside in the elements, sometimes surounded by strangers who may pose a threat to their safety and wellbeing, a situation that would certainly effect ones state of mind.

Yes, some may be drug addicted and present extreme challenges to those who feel they are uncooperative. In some respects, drug use today is the worst it has ever been in this country. It may take unusual steps to solve these problems, steps that other countries have already established as the only way to set priorities.

It is, ultimately, a quality of life issue not just for the honeless. If nothing is done, we all will have a diminished quality of life as we are accosted at the entrance to every establishment by individuals begging, sleeping on the street, relieving themselves in public, and so on. Those of you who are parents don’t want to have to spirit your children through the loitering, mentally ill, or God forbid, navigate that gauntlet by themselves.

You simply cannot ignore it. It will not go away. And, California has the more ideal climate if you don’t have a roof over your head than North Dakota, for example. In a state where people treat their pets better than they treat each other, it is a little shocking that they can demonstrate such apathy for those suffering, and I do mean suffering, homelessness. It is a problem that can only get worse if not addressed.

It might be as simple as interviewing them to find out what they need. A bus ticket to relatives out of state? A place to sleep? A hot meal? A job? A shower? What services are available to them? How do they obtain them? What sort of medical needs do they have? If they are sleeping on BART and stealing food from Safeway, obviously they are not receiving services. It might be as simple as handing out a card to those who are receptive which gives them the name of someone to contact, preferably close by and in person, who could direct them to the help they need.

Why is the ACLU and half a dozen special-interest groups advocating for illegal aliens when the homeless are already here and in much worse shape? They need those resources more desperately. It is insanity to take on the problems of people from other countries and completely ignore those of our own citizens. There needs to be a well-organized, concerted effort to determine what can be done immediately (food, shelter, clothing), and what needs to be done long term (mental health, medical care, training, and education) to assure the homeless can overcome the circumstances that brought them to this unfortunate situation. Some of them may never be able to care for themselves; its just a fact of life.

The state has shoved food distribution off on the churches, and while churches are doing the best they can, the magnitude of the problem overwhelms their resources. What else has the state done to abdicate their responsibility, to all of us really, to insure that we are not soon faced with a growing dystopia appearing on the horizon? It seems that the problem has been neglected for so long that now it more difficult to solve and more costly.

Fred P. May 15, 2019 at 8:16 AM

@stop – so he “tried”?

Right. Convenient excuse.

Since the democrats have a supermajority in CA legislature, anything that goes against the DNC talking points is immediately put to sleep. The democrats’ idea of bipartisanship is “do what I want.”

Try again, stop….. Throwing money at a problem with having a specific plan in place is a recipe for disaster. You’ll see when CA files bankruptcy…. despite the claims of the “5th largest economy.”

AJ BUTTACAVOLI May 10, 2019 at 7:19 PM

In my 77 years I have never experienced what is happening in the country today. It’s as though the nation has gone mad – at least a portion of the nation. I think that Donald Trump’s election was such a shock that people simply cannot grasp the idea as real and so they have to constantly denigrate the idea as a way of maintaining a grasp on reality. It’s a way of saying he’s not the president and therefore he’s an imaginary character out of a cartoon. Donald Trump did something that has never been done in America’s history. He never ran for office, never held a political position of any kind and yet with a bunch of amateurs around him he succeeded in winning the White House. How did he do it? That’s the question of the century but I think he hit a nerve that no one knew existed and that nerve responded in a way it never had before. He awakened a sleeping giant and that giant voted for him. He may have actually received fewer votes than his opponent but he won what counts, the electoral votes, something most people simply do not understand. So they say his election is not valid and that his presidency is a sham. The problem really is that people have not educated themselves because of the prolonged trance in which they have existed since the election, so they have no idea what Donald Trump is really about and what he is trying to do. And the utter irony is that no matter how much he’s demeaned by the press and the Hollywood establishment his poll numbers stay strong and the economy continues its unprecedented growth.

mtzman May 10, 2019 at 10:25 PM

No, the liberals won’t call you a racist, AJ, but they will call you uninformed. Trump is the not the first but the fifth president to never have held political office prior to winning the presidency — Taylor, Grant, Hoover, and Eisenhower being the first four. Trump’s poll number have remained pretty static and he is the only president in modern history to never have achieved an aggregate fifty percent approval rating, and, while the economy does appear strong, its rate of growth is hardly unprecedented. His election was legally valid, which most people acknowledge, but most people would also acknowledge that it was illegitimate, a sham, and hardly the awakening of a sleeping giant.

Silva May 11, 2019 at 10:27 AM

Did you or someone else make that up? The Donald has spoken of running for President since the early 1970s, when I first began observing him in his relentless quest to publicly blow his horn (in his arch nemesis, the media). In 2000 he ran.

HappyPappy May 11, 2019 at 1:12 PM

Does anybody have some nice cheese to share with that fermented whine from mtzman?

Gittyup May 11, 2019 at 5:14 PM

A nicely aged, spreadable Limburger. Mtzman, come on down!

THE BLACK KNIGHT May 11, 2019 at 5:57 PM


I think what poster AJ BUTTACAVOLI meant was that President Donald J. Trump was the first President to have never held elected political office or military position prior to being elected President.

While President Zachary Taylor, President Ulysses S. Grant, and President Dwight D. Eisenhower never held political office prior to being elected President, they each served in the military with different ranks of General, which had them dealing with the “political class.”

While President Herbert Hoover had never been elected to office prior to being elected President, he did serve in political office, having been appointed to positions in the administrations of President Woodrow Wilson, President Warren G. Harding, and President Calvin Coolidge.

Poll numbers are subjective and we know that several points in polling vary depending on the person being polled, how questions are worded, and if questions are asked by a recording or live person, as well as the sample being made up of adults, registered voters, or likely voters. We know that President Obama over-polled, because some people feared being labeled a “racist” if they rated him negatively, so they rated him positively to avoid their fears, and we know that President Trump under-polls, because some people fear being labeled a “racist” or a “bigot” if the were to rate him positively, so they rate him negatively to avoid their fears.

I don’t think most people acknowledge Donald Trump’s election to be illegitimate and a sham, although “some people” probably do feel that way.

Did President Trump’s candidacy or election win “awaken a sleeping giant,” well, that depends on a persons subjective view of certain selective facts. I do think his candidacy did awaken people that felt they had been silenced due to a quarter-century of political correctness having been forced on them and that had them living in fear of saying the wrong thing and losing the ability to provide for their families. His candidacy did awaken many that felt they weren’t being heard, they weren’t being represented, agreed with what he said on a range of topics that candidates from both political parties had spent decades avoiding, or had spent decades telling the public what they had to accept, rather than discussing what they were willing to accept.

mtzman May 11, 2019 at 11:09 PM

So what happened to the sleeping giant in 2018? Fell back asleep again or maybe not a true giant after all?

Hope Johnson May 12, 2019 at 8:45 AM

@ Black Knight – Political correctness is much older than a quarter of century; what has shifted over the years is which group is in power and what is considered the “correct” things to say.

Black communities have certainly been required to limit what they say to those in power for fear of the welfare and lives of their families from slavery to Jim Crow law days and on.

Women couldn’t take out loans or get credit cards until the 1970’s, could be fired for being pregnant, and were fired for reporting sexual harassment. All of these things acted as restrictions on their actions and speech out of fear of providing for their families and for their own safety.

For better or worse, those in power often subject others to hiding speech in the shadows and often those who had been oppressed will speak out. It’s not some new oppression or backlash – just a shift in who is feeling oppressed or the subject of the backlash this time around.

Rollo Tomasi May 12, 2019 at 10:57 AM

“So what happened to the sleeping giant in 2018?”

The same thing that has happened in all but seven mid term elections since WWII, but don’t let that affect your narrative.

mtzman May 12, 2019 at 6:04 PM

@RT, my point exactly …

Gittyup May 12, 2019 at 11:21 PM

My mither bought her first car on credit in the 1930s. I got my first credit card at seventeen in the 1960s. You’re only as oppressed as you think you are.

Hope Johnson May 13, 2019 at 8:54 AM

@Gittyup – Wonen in the 1930s and1960s could only get credit with the approval of a husband, father or brother. And good luck with that if you were black as well. We have a long history of oppression in this country and your denying it is not only asinine but contributes to lack of policy that prevents the cycle of silencing those who disagree with whichever power structure is in place. Do you think lynchings were all in the mind of the attacked or not designed to send a message to stay in line?

Captain Bebops May 13, 2019 at 9:04 AM
Kentucky Derby May 13, 2019 at 9:18 AM

Hope – Not everyone has a far left – EVERYONE IS A VICTIM MENTALITY. My mom got credit on her own in the 1960s when my dad was out to sea in the Navy. She had her own income, and didn’t need my dad, her father, etc. She was over 2000 miles away from ANY family. You weren’t born yet, and you have no idea what you’re talking about. Women faced more resistance, and a lot of people still do. Low income, bad credit, etc. will gave the bank pause too.

The far left thinks EVERYONE is oppressed, including rich, white powerful men. Your mindset is pathetic. Women have a lot of advantages that men will never have, and a lot of us prefer to take responsibility for our own lives, and become successful on our own. We don’t need your whining about the past. Get over it.

Kentucky Derby May 13, 2019 at 10:28 AM

Also – women weren’t fired for being pregnant They were fired for lying on a job application. Women were asked if they were pregnant because employers assumed women would stay home and raise their baby, and their assumption was probably correct. You will still get fired today for lying on a job application – man or woman. And rightfully so. No employer wants to hire anyone who will be quitting in a few months.

If you’re going to argue the past, get your facts straight.

Gittyup May 13, 2019 at 12:18 PM

@Hope Johnson My mother was a single working female in Los Angeles when she bought her first car on credit. Her father was deceased, she wasn’t married yet, and she was the caretaker of her younger brother in high school who was never able to work. He was a hemophiliac at a time when there was no treatment for the disease. So, I doubt he was consulted in the approval of my mother’s auto loan.

I was an employed single female working full time when I was sent a credit card at age seventeen in 1960, unsolicited, by the way. I took it.

Your narrative is flawed by the fact that it is untrue. But, the truth is always inconvenient to liberals. Perhaps black communities “suffered” the lack of credit because they didn’t work. I won’t speculate about the lynchings and cross burnings because black culture doesn’t interest me. Maybe Jussie Smollett would know the answer to that question.

It sounds to me like you bought the whole stinking load of manure.

Captain Bebops May 13, 2019 at 12:23 PM

Kentucky Derby, economic hardship is non-partisan. Do you think that if a business wants to lay you off and out source your job that they care anything about your politics? Get a clue.

THE BLACK KNIGHT May 13, 2019 at 7:15 PM

Hope Johnson,

You are correct, it wasn’t my intention to imply that “political correctness” was only a quarter century old, but rather I meant the change in “political correctness” over the last quarter century. As much as I try to be clear in my postings, I made the mistake of thinking other readers knew what I meant.

I was speaking from my experience with the change in “political correctness” over the last quarter century, but primarily in the change I saw and heard among mainly co-workers, but also some neighbors, friends, and family when Donald Trump began campaigning for President in 2015, and was “speaking freely,” and without fear of “political correctness,” presumably because as a billionaire he could. I witnessed a “relief” and a “happiness” among those many individuals, because they said and felt that someone was finally saying what they felt they could no longer say due to the current “political correctness” environment, where they were in “fear” of “speaking freely,” because they didn’t want to be labeled, or lose their jobs and the ability to provide for their families. I can’t tell you how many times I heard these different individuals say “Donald Trump is saying what many people have been thinking,” but still didn’t want to say “I” in their statements.

I don’t know who is in power now or over the last quarter century that’s controlling speech through “political correctness,” because we’ve had both political parties in control in a variety of forms over that time period. It could be that the political establishments of both parties are and have been on the same page when it comes to “political correctness?” Our press and media are on board with the current language of “political correctness,” as is Hollywood in much of the entertainment they produce, our education system, social media companies, and businesses in the language they allow, and now Microsoft Word. As an example, I have a niece in middle school in a purplish area of a red state and the school principal banned students from saying the word “Trump.”

So, my question is, who is it in power now that’s forcing the current form of “political correctness” in our language?

Gittyup May 17, 2019 at 7:50 AM

Political correctness is a throwback to the Victorian age. So, it’s a little surprising that liberals with all of their “free thinking” have taken us there.

It might also be worth noting here that during the Cold War, Russian men were frequently seen kissing one another on the lips.

Original G May 10, 2019 at 8:43 PM

Never seems to change . . . the greed of liberal politicians.
As electric vehicles become popular they have to go and ruin the advantage of owning one. A democratic state senator of Illinois wants yearly registration fees on electric vehicles increased to $1,000.

An sanctuary city Oakland, CA instead of using gas tax money fixing over 7,000 potholes . . . . .. Seems there is a bit of a money problem in the city run by democrats.

Silva May 11, 2019 at 6:24 AM

Tariffs equal taxes. Bigly.

HappyPappy May 11, 2019 at 5:59 PM

Funny how many left nuts will latch onto some obscure twist of phrase and then roll it out when they can’t conger up something intelligent to spew.
Take for example the phrase used by Trump, “big league”, when he gave emphasis to something of importance.
Some lowbrow “journalist” then changes it to “bigly” and the other lowbrows chime in like lemmings.
Not you though Silva. You’re much too sophisticated to stoop to that level.

Silva May 11, 2019 at 7:38 PM

HappyPappy, you give the nicest backhanded compliments!🙂 I did consider for a moment saying “big league”, but I decided not many on either side would get the reference, and might think it was MY lowbrow patter.

Dr. Jellyfinger May 13, 2019 at 8:52 PM

Happy Pappy… I would not bother to mention the incorrect spelling of the word “conjure” were it not for the fact that when spelled “conger” it is the last name of Darva Conger (Hottsie Tottsie of “Who Wants To Marry A Millionaire” fame back in 2000) and could be misinterpreted to mean agreeing to a union & then backing out and publicly humiliating the 2nd party to the agreed union right after cashing in on a 3-carat diamond ring and more than $100,000 in prizes like a heartless gold digging hooker.

So…. just to be clear… it’s “conjure”.

HappyPappy May 15, 2019 at 12:36 PM

Dr J –
Conger is also; a large edible predatory eel of shallow coastal waters.

I do, however yield to your sharp eye, attention to detail, and ability to spel good.


SF oh May 11, 2019 at 7:40 AM

I was really impressed by the students of the STEM school after the horrible shooting last week. They walked out of a so-called “vigil” that they were told would be a memorial to honor the student who had been killed. Instead, it turned out to be a political rally for a local senator running for prez in 2020 and an anti-gun commercial. The students walked out of the building and held their own vigil honoring Kendrick Castillo- the student who was killed. Unlike the Parkland students – who were manipulated and exploited after a tragedy – the STEM students realized that politicians and activist groups were trying to use them. Smart kids who managed to get through a traumatic event, yet keep their minds sharp. They genuinely honored the memory of the boy who died.

Silva May 11, 2019 at 12:28 PM

Nice! Nobody deserves to have their memorial co-opted if they’re not down with it. Poor kids.

Dr. Jellyfinger May 13, 2019 at 11:11 PM

You would think they’d have learned since the Wellstone Memorial….
but no.

The Wizard May 11, 2019 at 8:22 AM

Sleepy Joe Biden and his son are dirty birds. The chickens are coming back from Ukraine to roost. Get ready buckle up it’s going to be great. Trump 2020

Silva May 11, 2019 at 10:43 AM

Waddya know. Another one of whack job Rudy’s cockamamie schemes bites the dust.

Cognitave Dissonance May 11, 2019 at 9:16 AM

The economy went into a tailspin when Obama came into office? This is easily verifiable as an entirely inaccurate claim. The day Obama entered office Bush’s recession/damn near a depression was well underway with dow near 7500 and employment at 7.8%. When he left despite Mitch McConnells stated goal of doing nothing that would help Obama and ignoring how it would hurt the American public. Despite zero cooperation and stonewalling when Obama left office the Dow was at 26000 and employment at 4.7%. This isn’t what a tailspinning economy looks like. For that look at the last few months of Bush’s second term and the it’s clearly obvious the economy tanked well before Obama took office. This stuff isn’t that hard to look up. I will go in to the claims on race but this already long and one just has to listen to the tenor of society today with the rise of the alt right, white nationalist etc.

Dr. Jellyfinger May 11, 2019 at 10:43 AM

“When Obama came into office?”

Where did Nunya say that?

The economy crashed before Obama was elected President.

Obama focused on “housing rights” when he worked as a lawyer-activist and community organizer in South Side Chicago. His mentor — the man who placed him in his first job there — was the father of the anti-redlining movement: John McKnight. He coined the term “redlining” to describe the mapping off of minority neighborhoods from home loans.

Obama worked for a Chicago civil-rights law firm that worked closely with McKnight’s radical Gamaliel Foundation and National People’s Action, as well as Acorn, to solicit lending-discrimination cases.

At the time, NPA and Acorn were lobbying the Clinton administration to tighten enforcement of anti-redlining laws.

They also dispatched bus loads of goons trained by Obama to the doorsteps of bankers to demand more home loans for minorities. Acorn even crashed the lobby of Citibank’s headquarters in New York and accused it of discriminating against blacks.

The pressure worked. In 1994, Clinton’s top bank regulators signed a landmark anti-redlining policy that declared traditional mortgage underwriting standards racist and mandated banks apply easier lending rules for minorities.
Obama led a class-action suit against Citibank on behalf of several Chicago minorities who claimed they were rejected for home loans because of the color of their skin.
In the run-up to the crisis, Citibank underwrote thousands of shaky subprime mortgages to satisfy the court in Obama’s case.
Defaults were common.
When home prices collapsed, most of the loans went bust.

So Obama only helped to create the crisis before he was elected President.

The Mortgage Crisis crashed the economy while Bush was President.
It was Congress that flatly rejected President Bush’s call to reform the GSEs (government sponsored enterprises) and the practice of subprime lending.

Over the years, the President’s repeated attempts to reform the supervision of these entities (17 times he warned Congress) were thwarted by the legislative maneuvering of those who emphatically denied there were problems with the GSEs (aka – Democrats).

Then… when the whole thing crashed, Democrats blamed Bush.

After Obama was elected President he did indeed inherit the poor economy he helped create…. THEN he made it worse.

Forsythe May 11, 2019 at 10:50 AM

@Cognitave Dissonance. Can you spell “Cognitive”?

Obama is a socialist, who went after businesses, by adding more taxes and regulations. Thankfully Hillary lost. She would have furthered Obama’s anti-business policies. And, she would have lined her pockets with lots of trade deals that would have lined her pockets via the Clinton Foundation.

Regarding the Bushes, I do believe that if Jeb Bush had won, the economy would not have recovered anywhere near as quickly as it has under Trump.

Forsythe May 11, 2019 at 12:25 PM

@Dr. Jellyfinger, thank you for pointing out Obama’s anti-business hardball tactics.

Here’s an aside: a Democrat relative recently told me that the economic recovery was due to Obama’s great leadership skills. I changed the subject by asking him how to spell “cognitive”.

HappyPappy May 11, 2019 at 1:36 PM

Cognitive Dissonance –
In an effort to respond to your inane diatribe, and conserve space, I offer this comment;
Obama’s solution; falsely bolster the economy by printing more money. 85 billion per month! All that accomplishes was to inflate prices without added value. The only jobs he created were govt jobs that cost taxpayers. Business suffered, some left the US to escape the unstable environment created by the socialist obama.

Dr. Jellyfinger May 11, 2019 at 4:58 PM

Try asking a Lib to spell “Quantitative Easing”.

THE BLACK KNIGHT May 11, 2019 at 7:32 PM

Cognitave Dissonance,

A large part of the problem is that everyone in both parties in Washington, D.C., didn’t understand the derivative trading market, and didn’t seem to know or understand the danger of loans being given to people that couldn’t afford them, which caused a lot of the problems that led to the recession. While President Bush was in control of the Executive branch of government and didn’t see what was coming, we also weren’t warned about what was coming from those in the Legislative branch, such as Barack Obama, who was in the U.S. Senate, or Joe Biden, who was in the U.S. Senate, or Hillary Clinton, who was in the U.S. Senate, or Tim Kaine, who was in the U.S. Senate, or Harry Reid, who was in the U.S. Senate and Majority Leader of the U.S. Senate, or Chuck Schumer, who was in the U.S. Senate, or Dick Durbin, who was in the U.S. Senate and Deputy Majority Leader of the U.S. Senate, or Nancy Pelosi, who was Speaker of the House, although we were being warned of impending trouble by John McCain, who was also in the U.S. Senate. The point is that virtually everyone in Washington, D.C. in 2008 failed to see what was coming and failed all of us! There is plenty of blame to go around to individuals in both parties. It doesn’t matter if Barack Obama or John McCain won the 2008 election, we still would’ve had an economic recovery, as their actions wouldn’t have been that different. President Bush started by signing TARP in late 2008 and President Obama just continued with similar policies.

Dr. Jellyfinger May 11, 2019 at 8:56 PM

And then Trump was elected, kept his promises, reversed all of Obama’s policies and showed everyone how to run a recovery.

Original G May 11, 2019 at 9:35 PM

“Quantitative Easing”.
Side note on quantitative easing and stimulus package, all that money handed out.

In many cases friends and supporters of the swamp creatures cashed in.
“Obama Bundler George Kaiser in 2009: It’s Time to Cash in on the Mother of All Government Handouts”

An as to obama and very weak economic recovery, leadership is KEY and it starts at the top.
A weak indecisive leader is often one who spews ideas, concepts and project proposals with little to no follow thru.

The Wizard May 11, 2019 at 12:28 PM

When Old Joe Biden strike’s out for the Presidential run he would be a great spokesman for Clear Choice or Sea Bond. Just Saying

Randy May 11, 2019 at 1:09 PM

New phrase attributed to trump:

Rage tweeting

defined as going off the rails Saturday mornings or Sunday or Monday or…..

Randy May 11, 2019 at 1:19 PM

Trump surpasses himself.

Takes Rage tweeting to new level.

Rage Re-tweeting. Sending the same rage tweets multiple times.


Concordejet May 11, 2019 at 1:39 PM

Saw the movie “Long Shot” wonder if Trump went to see that movie LOL the whole story about a journalist fell in love with the state of secretary who was running for the president turn out that the journalist did not really know how to write a speech for the candidate to make the story short they eventually fell. Not gonna explain the whole story the rest you got to watch your self.

Rollo Tomasi May 12, 2019 at 10:34 AM

What is “the state of secretary”? Some sort of new age existential concept?

Silva May 11, 2019 at 3:35 PM

Whoops! Fox News mistakenly puts up honest graphic

“Take that down please!”

THE BLACK KNIGHT May 11, 2019 at 6:57 PM

Hi Silva,

I’ll say that the graphic was mostly honest, but misleading. The graphic didn’t make much sense to me in the way it was shown, so I looked up the poll. Respondents were asked separately “Who they trusted more, the cable news networks (CNN, MSNBC, FOX) or President Trump?” The questions were asked of the respondents as “CNN or President Trump,” “MSNBC or President Trump,” and “FOX or President Trump,” but they were also asked to respond if they trusted both the network and President Trump about equally, which was left off of the graphic. Respondents said:
they trusted CNN by 48%, Trump by 35%, both by 13%, N/A 5%,
they trusted MSNBC by 45%, Trump by 32%, both by 16%, N/A 6%,
they trusted FOX by 30%, Trump by 20%, both by 37%, N/A 13%.

While I only watched the clip shown with the anchor asking that it be taken down, the AP apologized and reported that the graphic was put back up and used later in the program.

Silva May 11, 2019 at 7:51 PM

THE BLACK KNIGHT Hiya! Yeah, you caught me. I prematurely posted that. I should’ve figured something was amiss by how short it was.

Rollo Tomasi May 12, 2019 at 10:42 AM

@Silva, no worries. You just did the same thing the so-called news media has been doing for at least a decade now. Hence the public distrust.

Silva May 12, 2019 at 1:37 PM

I really miss the times when they just told us the news, Rollo Tomasi.

Gittyup May 12, 2019 at 4:55 PM

So do I. Just a dispassionate, well-balanced presentation of the facts completely unaffected by those attempting to manipulate the presenters objectivity for a specific political purpose. When the book “Manipulating Media” came out, it presented a road map for every popular cause to hijack the nightly news to further their own agenda. That combined with the rise of the cult of personality have given the news consumer a confusing miasma to wade through to obtain the information needed to form their own opinions.

THE BLACK KNIGHT May 12, 2019 at 9:29 PM


It wasn’t your fault, it was a mistake made by the FOX control room that showed a poor and misleading graphic at the wrong time that was created by the FOX graphics department.

Generally, these polls show some sort similarity among the different networks, but it was so skewed that I took a look at the polling results. What’s sad is that the other networks, news agencies, and anchors took the mistake and used it in a way to make it look like FOX was trying to hide something, but I’m sure FOX does the same thing when another network, news agency, or anchor makes a mistake. You’d think it would be easy for news professionals to just give us the facts, all of the facts, and just the facts.

Interestingly, many people complain about CNN, MSNBC, and FOX for having so much “influence” and because of their differing editorial and opinion programming views, but the highest rated hour of original first-run cable news network weekday programming currently goes to FOX’s “Hannity,” which captures 1% of the population of the United States in viewership. FOX’s “Hannity” is generally followed by FOX’s “Tucker Carlson Tonight” in second place, and MSNBC’s “The Rachel Maddow Show” in third place, but you have to go pretty far down the list of cable news programs before you get to CNN’s highest rated program, “Cuomo Primetime,” which gets about 3/10ths of one-percent of the American population in first-run viewership.

Not a Trump Fan May 16, 2019 at 2:30 PM

Fox’s primetime lineup is not news. Hannity, Tucker C, and others are opinion commentators, not journalists. If more republicans paid attention to Shepard Smith, Chris Wallace and even Bret B, maybe they’d actually get more truthful and accurate information about what Trump/Admin is doing and not a bunch of conspiracy theories, WH spin, old news and alternative facts. It’s no wonder that the right extremists keep pushing inaccurate narratives if they’re getting all their news from Hannity and the gang.

THE BLACK KNIGHT May 16, 2019 at 8:44 PM

Not a Trump Fan,

Did you read my post? I never called “Hannity” or “Tucker Carlson Tonight” news, just as I didn’t call “The Rachel Maddow Show” or “Cuomo Primetime” news. The primetime lineup of all of the cable news networks are “opinion programming,” not just that of FOX.

Very little of the approximate 20-hours of original weekday first-run programming on all of the cable news networks contains actual news. That’s because news costs money, and it’s much easier and much more profitable for anchors, contributors, and guests to give their opinion on news items.

Again, did you read my post? The highest rated program on all of the cable news networks attracts 1% of the population of the United States as its audience. All other cable news network programming attracts less that 1% of the population of the United States as its audience. CNN’s highest rated program, “Cuomo Primetime,” also an opinion program, attracts about 3/10ths of one-percent of the population of the United States as its audience, or less than one million people. The cable news networks audiences are so small that their influence is really negligible.

The fact is that ALL of the cable news networks are pushing opinions more than facts, which is why Americans all across the political spectrum are uninformed and push inaccurate narratives. It’s not one side or the other, it’s both sides, it’s just that the left has far more people pushing their narrative than the right does.

Original G May 11, 2019 at 6:04 PM

Need to remember CA democrat politicians rarely have a problem they can’t throw more tax dollars at. Especially problems which they originally create.

In the GIMME city across the bay another money grab is floated by a democrat SF supervisor. An IPO TAX.

Original G May 11, 2019 at 7:32 PM

“So much of left-wing thought is a kind of playing with fire by people who don’t even know that fire is hot. ”
–George Orwell

Peter May 12, 2019 at 12:47 PM

Hooray for George Conway.Telling it like it is.

Fed P. May 13, 2019 at 9:01 AM

You mean “telling it like you want it to be.”

Like randy and many other libs on this blog, you also have a severe inability to distinguish between fact and opinion. Must be result of extensive inbreeding.

Not unexpected, snowflake. Back to your safe space – and remember……5.5 more years of Trump, followed by 20+ years of a conservative SCOTUS.

Randy May 12, 2019 at 2:20 PM

What a crybaby whiner President Brokahontis.

President Trump on Saturday took a swipe at Donald McGahn, saying the former White House counsel “had a much better chance of being fired” than special counsel Robert S. Mueller III.

brokahontis? May 12, 2019 at 3:11 PM

Randy couldn’t stumble on clever with cl_v_r and $250 to buy a vowel.

Fred P. May 12, 2019 at 9:32 PM

Well, randy finally identified something at which he’s an expert.


Seems randy has EXTENSIVE experience at being a crybaby.

Back to your safe space, snowflake.

Rollo Tomasi May 13, 2019 at 9:36 PM

@brokahontis? – you win the politics column this week 😂

Stop May 12, 2019 at 5:11 PM

You’re right, considering they never liked for collusion.

Saying no collisions shows you have no idea what you’re talking about, well it’s one of the many ways it shows you don’t know what you’re talking about

Original G May 13, 2019 at 11:01 AM

“Sen. Kamala Harris, now running for the Democrat presidential nomination, says people in this country illegally should have access to public safety, public education, and public health — “period.” ”

Original G May 13, 2019 at 1:02 PM

Additional proof democrat politicians have rarely seen a problem they couldn’t throw your tax dollars at. This time governor silver spoon wants to spend $75 million.

“Six of the 10 most destructive wildfires in California history have come in the last 18 months, killing 123 people…”

Randy May 13, 2019 at 3:01 PM

Are they raking the forest?

Original G May 13, 2019 at 4:05 PM

Randy . . . If anyone asks why human cloning is illegal, would you explain it to them ?

Original G May 13, 2019 at 5:58 PM

What happens when whiny liberal politicians decide they want to buy votes with what employers pay their employees (raising minimum wage) ? ? History lesson from here in CA where democrat politicians decided to had to help farm workers decades back. Farmers turned to automation to replace increasingly expensive human labor.

Fast forward to present, “Amazon is raising its minimum wage to $15 following pressure from Bernie Sanders”

“Amazon offers workers $10k to quit after unveiling machines that pack 700 boxes an HOUR and could put thousands out of a job”

Fred P. May 15, 2019 at 8:13 AM

Don’t confuse liberals with facts.

It’s like trying to teach a pig to sing.

Justifiable anger May 15, 2019 at 8:29 AM

California will be the first to fall. We are too populous to have a socialist regime without corruption. Too many places to hide and do dirty deals.

Pelosie wealth is a prime example of corruption or nepotism if you prefer. Our own Concord is currently being hijacked by a powerful group. Raising taxes, rent and the homeless drugger population of course. We are also a sanctuary city.

Figure it out folks.

Original G May 13, 2019 at 8:06 PM

This deserves to be exposed, according to article those in charge at Nabisco’s Chips Ahoy! don’t keep up with the news and have a rather strange approach to customer relations.

Funny thing they might find out the hard way, as a few other companies have learned, offending customers can cause a drop in sales.

Randy May 13, 2019 at 8:58 PM

Like the time Cheerios had an interracial couple. People in the mid west were outraged and going to boycott. How’d that work out. Do you watch tv?

Original G May 14, 2019 at 4:32 PM

THIS ?, is what goes on in schools ? ? ? ?
“Schoolgirl, 11, is removed from class for shouting at a group of her classmates who were giving the Nazi salute after their teacher assigned a student to dress as Hitler for an assignment”

Original G May 14, 2019 at 7:01 PM

THIS is what goes on in schools.
So apparently now our kids are supposed to guesstimate ?

Jojo Potato May 14, 2019 at 7:48 PM

Quickly determining if an answer is reasonable is a valuable skill. It needs to be taught like any other skill. These days the kids can punch keys on a calculator but if they have made a mistake they will never know. Better for them to catch their own mistakes by understanding estimation.

mtzman May 15, 2019 at 9:32 AM

Although my undergrad degree is in economics, I took just about every statistics course the school offered and the very first one I took was Inexact Quantitative Methods, which, over the years, has proven time and time again to have been one of the most useful courses I ever took.

slagheap May 14, 2019 at 5:30 PM

HERE IS YOUR BELOVED NRA. i double dog daddy secret probation dare you to read this from today’s NYT. I DARE YOU:

Dr. Jellyfinger May 14, 2019 at 7:15 PM

Dare accepted…. read it all.
This isn’t exactly breaking news & NYT blatantly exaggerates… but it is true that the NRA has been dealing with some internal strife all year & then some.
I expect they will clean house and get their poop together pretty fast….. this isn’t the DNC or a Clinton deal we’re talking about…. it’s the friggin NRA and it’s members do not look kindly upon this kind of BS…. some, like myself for instance…. will delay renewing membership until we see some positive change.
I’m not condemning the NRA, but I do expect they should hold themselves to a higher standard than lowlife politicians do.

Rollo Tomasi May 14, 2019 at 11:18 PM

Dare accepted. Old news, so what? I’m not a member – the NRA has never received a dime from me. It is fun watching the leftists get so wound up by them, though.

slagheap May 15, 2019 at 12:12 AM

maybe you read it, maybe you didn’t. ” internal strife, ” that’s what you call millions of dollars of embezzlement and tax evasion? let’s see what the forthcoming subpoenas name it.

Fred P. May 15, 2019 at 8:11 AM

Laso, dare accepted….I read it, too. So what?

The NYT is also a liberal rag – even to the left of CNN, MSNBC, ABC, Huffpost, etc…. so I wouldn’t put a lot of stock in what (or how) they report it. Everyone’s known for a couple of years that the NRA has needed some housecleaning at the top and more accountability – and you (and the MSM) are just getting this now????? I thought you liberals claimed to be so educated and on top of the news. Or do you just wait until some left wing rag tells you something with which you agree? That last was a rhetorical question, btw.

As far as “beloved NRA” (using YOUR words), I think that’s a stretch for nearly EVERYONE. They just happen to be one of the largest pro-2A organizations. I guess that, using your thought processes, one could make the same claim about your “beloved” Planned Parenthood, DNC, Hillary Clinton and any other liberal organization or individual in this country.

“What? Wipe my hard drive? Like with a cloth???”

Try again, slag. It’s fun watching you get spun up by “news” that’s old, yet you conveniently ignore the current trash in your own back yard.


Randy May 14, 2019 at 5:50 PM

Funny I didn’t see a tweet about this.

Over the weekend, the climate system sounded simultaneous alarms. Near the entrance to the Arctic Ocean in northwest Russia, the temperature surged to 84 degrees Fahrenheit (29 Celsius). Meanwhile, the concentration of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere eclipsed 415 parts per million for the first time in human history

Gittyup May 14, 2019 at 8:31 PM

So, they’ve been keeping records of the carbon dioxide in the atmosphere since the dawn of human history? What did they do, scratch it in the sand with a stick?

WC Resident May 14, 2019 at 10:03 PM

@Gittyup – Rather than be ignorant, why not look it up? We have estimated atmospheric dioxide levels for the past 420 million years and very accurate, measured, records for the past 800,000 years. The accurate records come from gas bubbles trapped in ice. The bubbles are recovered from ice core samples taken in Greenland and Antarctica. The long term data is indirect evidence of the levels taken from marine sediments.

Dr. Jellyfinger May 14, 2019 at 11:36 PM

Scientists…. Lol!
They are always reversing things that were considered “facts” for years and years….. “Yeah, but we got it right this time!”
It’s all estimates and guesswork.

It was just this way 420 million years ago…. sure, got it! It’s a FACT.

800,000 year old frozen Antarctic gas bubble…. that tells the story for the whole planet 800,000 years ago…. yep, figured out just how old that bubble was using the WAG method.
Grant them a few million$$ more now so they can guesscover more amazing, new guesstimates….. and in a few years they’ll say all the data was wrong… but NOW we know.. blah, blah, blah.
The eager believers will just eat it up.

Justifiable anger May 15, 2019 at 8:44 AM

Magma. The earths magma is changing course. Earthquakes and time may be the cause. Maybe it is the Young Un’ popping off nukes.

In any case the movement of magma can be the cause of changing Ice flows along with seasonal change. Scientists know this. They also know volcano activity is toxic.

Grant writers do not know this, nor are they scientists. Global warming was created by college professors dependent on grants. A nice living.

As for temperature change, easy peasy. I can change the temperature of a reading in my own yard. Just move the thermometer out into the sun and watch it climb.

San Francisco alone has 19 different climate zones. It also now has ‘climate’ toxicity due to the hoards defecating in the street.
Man made.

Gittyup May 15, 2019 at 10:26 AM

@ WC Resident The key word being “estimated.”

Dr. Jellyfinger May 15, 2019 at 2:38 PM

I think Dan Aykroyd summed it up well…

Dr. Jellyfinger May 16, 2019 at 10:48 AM

Moon shrinking is real…. the higher it gets, the smaller it gets!
But as if by magic, it is big again the very next night as soon as it begins to rise!

Fred P. May 15, 2019 at 7:04 AM

What many don’t realize is that correlation does NOT equal causation.

Science can postulate and theorize all day long – but it doesn’t mean that those theories are fact. There’s always room for discussion – unlike 1+1=2, which is a fact…..

Remember years ago when they were claiming we were coming into another ice age with all of the dire predictions? Then it was global warming – again with all the predictions. Now it’s “climate change” and the claim by a 29-year old bartender that the world will end “in 12 years” . Those that claim that mankind is the “cause” of climate change are the same ones who are too wrapped up in their own self-importance to look beyond this earth. Apparently, they think the sun has less of an effect than mankind. Are you telling me that volcanic activity has NO impact on CO2? Look at the eruptions in the last 200 years…. and prove to me that those eruptions did NOT have any impact.

Sure, lots of scientists have jumped onto the climate change bandwagon; but lots of scientists have also NOT jumped on it. Remember that even a majority of opinions don’t make a theory into a fact. Frankly, it looks like this is just being studied to death. Science is constantly looking for funding to publish their studies – right, wrong or indifferent.

All you hear is “indirect evidence” and “estimates”.

Think about it – climate change will ALWAYS be here, and mankind CANNOT reverse climate change. And remember that there is a difference between weather and climate.

Learn to question things. Just because someone has a bunch of letters after their names doesn’t necessarily qualify them as an unbiased expert.

Now I’ll sit back and watch the unthinking libs wail and gnash their few teeth because their opinions are called into question.

If you have facts, I’ll look at them. But if all you have are opinions or collections of opinions, then forget it.

Up to Here May 15, 2019 at 9:50 AM

Re: letters after names
B.S. – self evident
M.S. – More of the Same
Ph.D – Piled Higher and Deeper

The trouble with too many Libs is they think they are thinking when in fact they are mentally masturbating.

Rollo Tomasi May 15, 2019 at 1:48 PM

“Now it’s “climate change” and the claim by a 29-year old bartender that the world will end “in 12 years”

That was just dry humor and irony. Can’t believe you missed it.

Original G May 15, 2019 at 4:45 PM

Up to Here …. Every so often get new little engineers fresh out of school knowing everything. Some all pumped up and full of themselves are not shy when defending their stupid ideas by pointing out their years of education and degrees conferred upon their graduation.

They’re not nearly as pumped after being reminded rectal thermometers also have degrees.

Gittyup May 17, 2019 at 7:30 AM

@Up to Here Right. Better to be surrounded by simpletons who are easily manipulated. But you forgot a plethora of law degrees. Those simpletons are going to need their help sooner or later.

Silva May 15, 2019 at 9:37 AM

Nunya, you should consider familiarizing yourself with the report. The big cheese said “No collusion” through his “O” ring hole hundreds of times, but that doesn’t mean it was the whole point of Mueller investigation. It was never about collusion.

Liar! Liar! May 15, 2019 at 10:13 AM

The Mueller investigation was ALL ABOUT collusion until the Mueller report actually came out, then it was NEVER about collusion.


mtzman May 15, 2019 at 11:23 AM

The investigation was NOT all about collusion, the true purpose of which can be found in the title: Report on the Investigation into Russian Interference in the 2016 Presidential Election. The report found overwhelming evidence of numerous criminal violations in that regard, and, of course, a number of individuals have been charged accordingly. The report also found numerous links and contacts by the Russians with the Trump campaign but did not find sufficient evidence of an actual agreement between the campaign and officials of the Russian government to knowingly violate American law (that’s the part where the report basically said DJT Jr. was too stupid for it to be criminal). Finally, the report laid out numerous instances of acts that could be obstruction of justice on the part of Trump himself but they never considered bringing criminal charges because DOJ policy precludes charging a sitting president.

Note that we still have not seen the full report. Moreover, there are still twelve outstanding investigations pending that were referred out by the special counsel, so even after a 448 page report, 37 individuals or entities charged. several high Trump officials in jail or about to be, and who knows what else, this thing is far from “case closed.”

What’s most important is the finding that the Russians clearly did illegally interfere in the election. That is, and always should have been, the chief concern here. To say that all of the Russian actions had no effect on the election results is simply ludicrous and defies all common sense, which, to respond further to an earlier thread, is why more and more people think of the Trump presidency as illegitimate.

Original G May 15, 2019 at 5:00 PM

Merit based immigration, a phrase seldom uttered by democrat swamp dwellers. Funny thing about those coming to our country who have a skill set which is in demand, they don’t need government handouts.

Have over the years had the honor of working with qualified industrialist electricians from Russia, Venezuela, Poland, Columbia and a few other countries.

They were accretive to our country and it’s economy, they had a skill set which is in demand and they bothered to learn English.

Merit based immigration, gives America productive members of society NOT dependent upon government for their financial well being . . . .
something that terrifies democrat swamp dwellers.

Jojo Potato May 15, 2019 at 6:00 PM

And I’ve had lots of experience with H1B software people that were total losers. It’s well known that the Indian testing of engineers is a complete fraud. These guy arrive here with bundles of documentation and not a clue in their head. I have been assigned to train them on simple stuff and then when they totally failed, well I quit that place and went to another company. Sorry but my experience is completely different than yours.

Justifiable anger May 16, 2019 at 7:27 AM

Speaking of work skills. The Democrat claim that we don’t have a work force to pull weeds or harvest lettuce is an out right lie. In our prisons, the are low level criminals that could work for rewards. Plus, hard labor is good for the soul.

Don’t forget our pampered out of work snowflakes. They too would benefit a good sweat. Plus it might remind them that nothing is guaranteed. A lesson better taught when young.

Randy May 16, 2019 at 9:41 AM

As so it begins one national emergency after another to take your freedom away. I just keep shaking my head and wonder how people can believe that this man can be taken seriously. This is how democracy becomes authoritarian. We have never faced a threat internally in our 243 year history. Traitor Trump is willing to feed his ego and greed at our democracy and liberties expense.

Trump declares national emergency over It threats. He will control the information you receive.

Rollo Tomasi May 16, 2019 at 9:59 AM

Wow. Randy actually believes Trump is a threat to our individual freedom. This in spite of the left’s continual war on the right to bear arms, freedom of speech, due process, presumption of innocence, religious freedom – all of which are actually mentioned in the Constitution. Unlike abortion.

Fred P. May 16, 2019 at 11:42 AM

Randy – you’ve gone over the top. And you know zero about history…. among the host of other subjects.

Authoritarian? Ever seen the liberals in action when a conservative attempts to speak at Berkeley? How about (in general) liberals attempting to impose their wills on others? Removing historical statues because they’re “offended?”

“We have never faced a threat internally…” – really??? Never heard of the Civil War? Why do we have the TSA?

Take your crying and whining to someone who gives a $hit. While you’re at it, learn some basic English grammar skills and history, snowflake. Better yet, go to some third-world $hit-hole country where you’ll be happier. I notice that you haven’t to date, even thought the suggestion was made numerous times. That tells me you’re happier here with Trump as your president.

Which will it be, snowflake??????

Know how a liberal is lying? They’re breathing. Guess snowflake randy has spent too much time sucking on a car’s tailpipe.

Original G May 16, 2019 at 3:25 PM

According to AOC (Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez),
OMG planet has like 12 years then it’s curtains . . .

Thursday, May 16, 2019 “Snowing right now in Yosemite.”

Randy May 16, 2019 at 4:10 PM

She also asked this

You’re the CEO of Gilead. Is it true that Gilead made $3 billion in profits from Truvada in 2018?” Ocasio-Cortez asked Gilead CEO Daniel O’Day.

“$3 billion in revenue,” he clarified.

“The current list price is $2,000 a month in the United States, correct?” she asked, referring to Truvada.

“It’s $1,780 in the United States,” O’Day responded.

“Why is it $8 in Australia?” Ocasio-Cortez countered

Original G May 16, 2019 at 4:30 PM

What is it about US House of Representatives and failed bartenders ? ?
Have to wonder when an 8 year old has better delivery than a member of congress.
“I call it the Green New Deal because I’m still learning my colors”

Not a Trump Fan May 16, 2019 at 3:27 PM

Just as I’ve expressed here in the past, besides Trump’s despicable character pathological lying, and generally bad behavior, Trump’s foreign policies, “strategies”, global relationships (cozying up to bad guys and pissing off actual allies) has culminated in trade war with China, restart of missile testing by North Korea, continued/emboldened election interference by Russia, possible military escalation with Iran, etc. etc. That he doesn’t believe or listen to career intelligence and military officials should scare everybody.

Dr.J’s post blaming the worst recession since the great depression on Obama 1) sounds like something that Fox probably has been espousing to stoke their hatred for Obama and 2) lets just say for one second that this was true, how do you defend Trump bailing out the Farmers with Tax payer money for a Trade War he started? or continues lying to Americans that China “pays” for the tariffs? Even Kudlow admitted to Chris Wallace Sunday that Americans will pay for these tariffs in higher prices on China produced goods.

I pray Trump doesn’t start WWIII and/or crash the economy before he’s out of office in 2020. I just hope the GOP senate wakes up and start doing their job before they let this happen. There’s more to worry about than appointing conservative judges.

Fred P. May 16, 2019 at 3:51 PM

You mean 2024….

Heh, heh, heh…..

Original G May 16, 2019 at 4:24 PM

“… global relationships (cozying up to bad guys and pissing off actual allies)”

President Trump is magnitudes better for America than the bowing, groveling, apologist invertebrate he replaced. In case you forgot, . . . .

Fred P. May 16, 2019 at 8:16 PM

Liberals have a difficult time with facts….

Dr. Jellyfinger May 16, 2019 at 9:06 PM

Did I “defend Trump bailing out the Farmers with Tax payer money”?

I don’t think I did… no….. I don’t automatically support everything Trump does… not like Dem’s did with Obama and Clinton etc.

And FOX ? No…. My source links were from Investors Business Daily and The White House archives.

NATF- knee jerk comments, assumptions, misstating my position…
very unprofessional…. you can do better.

I see what you’re talking about tho & I can understand how standing up to China & demanding fair trade practices seems so unusual and out of character for the USA, but we have a real leader now & this is how leaders are supposed to behave.

It might be difficult for Democrats to embrace the idea of buying goods made in the USA, but your team will just have to bear with it awhile until we work out fair deals with the countries we trade with.

In the end it will benefit all of us, producers and consumers alike.

Standing up to our enemies and taking action to defend our interests and allies is another thing real leaders are expected to do.

Perhaps the mismanaged & criminally negligent lack of action in Benghazi, Libya back in 2012 is a good example of why we need to keep adequate guard for our people serving abroad.

I don’t believe our current President will allow such a thing to happen
again, at least not on his watch.

The best deterrent to war is the USA having a strong military and a willingness to use it when necessary…. and enemies who understand that and believe that we will.

Gittyup May 17, 2019 at 7:42 AM

@Not A Trump Fan It’s very simple. Just “Buy American.” Look for thing that have a label saying “Made in USA.” Support American workers, American manufacturers, and American industry. Travel “America First.” I know its a difficult concept to grasp, but it makes sense if you stop ti think about it.

Randy May 16, 2019 at 3:46 PM

Dangerously unfit.

Trump’s tariffs are equivalent to one of the largest tax increases in decades

Fred P. May 16, 2019 at 3:50 PM

You Democrats LOVE tax increases …. you’ve supported every one of them that were introduced by Democrats.


Dr. Jellyfinger May 16, 2019 at 7:12 PM

Fed pulls CA. high speed rail funding…. Newsome is having kittens!

Original G May 16, 2019 at 9:29 PM

Rather liked and do agree with this person’s take,
” “I am not interested in sending $3.5 billion in federal funding that was allocated to this project back to [President] Donald Trump,” Newsom said in February.

It’s not your money Gavin, nor is it Trump’s. It’s ours – the working citizens of the country – the deplorables. Give it up, thief. ”

Dr. Jellyfinger May 17, 2019 at 8:05 AM

Ouch! That was a cheap shot Nunya… you could have also mentioned that at least Newsome isn’t an alcoholic… well, not anymore, anyway.

Randy May 17, 2019 at 9:17 AM

You realize the payback will come from the gas tax fund.

Original G May 17, 2019 at 2:54 PM

For clarification, news story from Thursday, February 1, 2007
“San Francisco Mayor Gavin Newsom’s re-election campaign manager resigned …”

Monday, February 5, 2007 “Newsom seeks treatment for alcohol abuse”

24 April 2018 “California gubernatorial candidate Gavin Newsom reveals he now drinks in moderation…”

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