Claycord – Talk About Politics

April 12, 2019 21:05 pm · 84 comments


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Ricardoh April 13, 2019 at 12:27 AM

I hope President Trump sends bus loads to Oakland and San Francisco. It is the only right thing to do. Think about it why let them
go where they are not apprisheated.

Matt April 13, 2019 at 2:28 AM

Yeah, then maybe one can teach you how to spell “appreciated”!

Amigo April 13, 2019 at 8:36 AM

Ricardo, while I usually agree with you, I would rather not see them not brought into our Sovereign country. Too many here already. Just shut the border down and build the wall and/or deploy more military to the border. What really bothers me to no end is when they apprehend an illegal who has been here for 10 or so years and they still have to have an interpreter to speak for them.

Ricardoh April 13, 2019 at 9:33 AM

Matt thanks was on my way to bed and spelled it wrong. Spellcheck came up with that and I said the heck with it I am going to bed. That is one bad spelling.

Amigo I like your idea better but it is not going to get done.

Amigo April 13, 2019 at 10:02 AM

Opps. Just re-read my comment. Used a double negative. Should have been: Ricardo, while I usually agree with you, I would rather not see them brought into our Sovereign country.

Randy April 13, 2019 at 11:47 AM

Don’t forget Concord is a sanctuary city too.

Dawg April 13, 2019 at 4:51 PM

The problem with dumping them into San Francisco is, the city is so expensive they will move out to the suburbs and we already have too many of them here.

Original G April 13, 2019 at 8:38 PM

As previously suggested, send them to Hawaii.

Perfect way to proof out democrat’s Utopian socialist dreams.
Find out if finite resources can be endlessly stretched as more persons with few job skills, limited language skills who will be dependent upon government for many months.if not years.
If their fantasy works, no better place to try it out.
Why shouldn’t whiny liberals put up their money out ?

Dr. Jellyfinger April 14, 2019 at 6:56 PM

I don’t think Hawaii needs more pineapple pickers….. I know…. I’ve applied …. it beats plucking polyps!

Fred P. April 16, 2019 at 5:36 AM

I guess randy will be more than happy to feed/house busloads of illegal aliens.

Anything less would be hypocritical.

Bedazzled April 13, 2019 at 6:44 AM

Do the cities want to be sanctuary for illegals, yet they dine want busloads of illegals brought in to their sanctuary cities. Bunch of hypocrites.
Libby Schaff calls it illegal and racist…exactly why is that, she wants them to come to her city to be safe, yet she doesn’t want them bussed in.
I’m all for bussing in 50,000 to Oakland and SF among other sanctuary cities…and if any if them try to leave those cities ICE can grab em.
I’m with Trump on this idea!

Sick of it April 13, 2019 at 9:10 AM

How did you all like Newsom statement on it. The guy is a idiot. But then again he just got back from El Salvador on our dime for what. He wants protections for illegal aliens but doesn’t want them bussed to his neighborhood. Vote out these morons. They are wrecking this state

Bob April 13, 2019 at 4:21 PM

Trump forced their hand with the troll job of the decade.

2020 is a lock, now close the border already

Fred P. April 15, 2019 at 11:44 AM

Then it just proves the hypocrisy of the liberals.

No surprise – just move along, nothing to see..

Tsa April 13, 2019 at 9:12 AM

Bring on the illegals to the sanctuary cities. You can talk the talk, but now you don’t want to walk the walk. Bunch of hypocrites!!! Better yet, send them to Pelosi’s and Schumer’s homes to live.

Kirkwood April 13, 2019 at 9:23 AM

Although bussing illegals to sanctuary cities would be good payback, it would a bad precedent because overcrowding in those cities would cause these people to spread out into surrounding cities. Can Monument handle another thousand indigent, unskilled, hungry people?

Ricardoh April 13, 2019 at 2:07 PM

The point is the president wants to get the democrats off of their dead azz and fix the laws. Same could be said for the rinos. They can’t keep dumping them in Texas.

Concord Grape April 13, 2019 at 10:07 AM

Not to change the posts but all politicians should make their tax records public and make it a requirement for all those seeking office

Chicken Little April 13, 2019 at 1:07 PM

I would be MUCH more interested in seeing their tax records for the years they are in office than for the time preceding their holding office. There seem to be way too many politicians becoming millionaires while in office.

Amigo April 13, 2019 at 1:21 PM

Not sure I would agree. It is just a job. It could trickle down to anyone seeking a job at any level. I would not want to supply a future employer with my financial record.

Cryin' Chuck April 13, 2019 at 10:20 AM

I say put them on a plane and fly them to the Canadian border. Justine said he’d take them. Remember?

Tsa April 13, 2019 at 10:34 AM

Now that NewScum has wasted more California taxpayer dollars on his junket to El Salvador, it’s time to start the recall drive.

Gittyup April 13, 2019 at 1:38 PM

Newsom’s trip to El Salvador was a slap in the face to the friends and family of Bambi Larson, the woman brutally murdered in San Joes recently by a meth-addicted illegal felon from El Salvador. He went to “study the poverty and violence” there, like the poverty and violence of illegal felons from El Salvador in San Jose wasn’t good enough for him.

Ricardoh April 13, 2019 at 12:11 PM

In the year 2000, the United States classified the Bantu as a priority and began preparations to resettle an estimated 12,000 Bantu refugees in select cities throughout the U.S. That was Bill Clintons watch. So much for President Trumps idea to send the illegals to sanctuary cities as being illegal. Seems there is a precedent.

mtzman April 13, 2019 at 4:14 PM

A point you deep thinkers seem to miss is the fact that transporting and releasing to sanctuary cities completely eliminates the need for detention at all.

Gittyup April 13, 2019 at 5:13 PM

And, I bet they discover a lot about illegal aliens “proclivities” during detention. Oh well, they won’t have to be bothered separating the anti-social from the well adjusted. They can just send the criminals right along with the new, Spanish-speaking workforce right to California and other liberal “sanctuary” rat holes and let the locals sort it out.

Fred P. April 15, 2019 at 11:42 AM

Then send them ALL to SF……or to the homes of Pelosi, Harris, Feinstein, Swalwell, etc… I’m sure that, being ardent supporters of “dreamers” and other immigrant sanctuary stuff, they’ve be more than willing to take in the illegal aliens and feed/house them.

Even the leftist supporters on this blog should be willing to take them in.


No? Then it’s just more hypocrisy of the left.

Bob April 13, 2019 at 4:23 PM

Trump forced their hand with the troll job of the decade.

2020 is a lock, now close the border already

RANDOM TASK April 13, 2019 at 4:29 PM

send them all to Berkley and marin
those cities stir up more BS than Mc gabbin gavin any day

Justin April 13, 2019 at 8:39 PM

🙀🤓🦓 do you think Zbras are paranoid having just found out that they have camouflage skin fur pattern?

The FearlessSpectator April 13, 2019 at 10:28 PM

While Trump’s idea is perhaps not Presidential, his threat spells out the problem: The sanctuary folks are the ones that get upset when not everyone wants to hold hands and sing Kumbaya. They can’t be happy unless we all sing. Sound familiar?

A false sense of community is worse than no community.

Justifiable anger April 14, 2019 at 5:51 AM

Yes. The sanctuary endorsers need Federal money to keep illegal programs running.

Sanctuary states will have to look themselves in the mirror when the money runs out. Its gunna get ugly, but CA’ers need to quit voting slacker politicians in. Kick those Democrats out. We need REAL solutions, not “let’s take a trip to South America and ban straws ” solutions.

As for the constant claim that 45 is brassy tacky, as it turns out this is exactly what our country needs. Some one that can crunch insults for breakfast. Donald Trump is an in the trenches Alpha. God bless America and her fabulous citizens who voted for US.

I have to laugh at Democrats feigning delicacy.

Randy April 14, 2019 at 7:22 AM

Trump is just trying to deflect from his income taxes and the release of the Mueller report. He’s trembling in his penny loafers.

The Fearless Spectator April 14, 2019 at 9:22 AM

No disrespect, but rumor has it that Trump wears Allen Edmonds Park Avenue shoes, which are some really serious footwear.

Penny Loafers might be more appropriate for sauntering through the grounds at Gavin’s new $3.7M home in Sacramento. That kind of money buys a lot of house in Sacramento, and is certainly quite far away from the nearest soup kitchen.

This next year is going to be really interesting, as truth continues to be stranger than fiction.

SF oh April 14, 2019 at 11:45 AM

I don’t think Trump is the one trembling. Pelosi seems to be grinding her dentures more than usual over the prospect of getting her wish. The Dems wanted open borders and zillions of illegals. They wanted Sanctuary Cities so ICE can’t touch them. They better be careful what they wish for …. they just might get it. I cracked up when I heard London Breed say that Trump’s plan to move illegals to SF is a “scare tactic”. What is she scared of??? They’ve been literally crying at the border to let these people in! Trump is just granting their wishes – they should be happy, right? Disgusting, two-faced hypocrites.

Cryin' Chuck April 14, 2019 at 5:17 PM

@SF oh
They would have preferred them in Texas as they’re trying to turn that state blue. They’ll be useless here in CA.

This whole thing is just exposing the hypocrisy of the left. Sounds like Cher is now a MAGA warrior. lol

94517 April 14, 2019 at 6:49 PM

Give it up Randy don’t you think The IRS would be on his ass by now if he filed false tax returns?

Fred P. April 14, 2019 at 8:17 PM

Randy, you’re just another sore loser honking at the moon.

1. What will Trump’s tax returns show, SPECIFICALLY?
2. What is YOUR expertise in tax law?
3. Don’t you think that, if Trump cheated on his taxes, the IRS would have been all over his a$$?
4. The democrats have been DEMANDING his returns for months. There is NO requirement that he disclose his returns. Look in the Constitution….if you know how to read.
5. I want to see the tax returns for ALL members of Congress, with all details and IRS transaction records, that show how they became multimillionaires on a government salary. Note that anyone can submit amended returns so single returns without the transaction records are useless.

None of the liberals are willing to demand that ALL of Congress release their returns. It’ll show them as the hypocrites they are.

Now go back to counting pennies in your piggy bank. That’s the extent of your knowledge about finance and taxes.


Gittyup April 14, 2019 at 8:36 PM

In addition to not being anywhere near a soup kitchen, I’ll just bet Newsom’s $3.7M Sacramento mansion has a wall around it.

Randy April 15, 2019 at 12:00 PM

95427 and fred.

It’s not about cheating or audit.

He’s afraid of the information on those returns and where it will lead. He doesn’t want anyone to know his business partners or banks he deal with. I know it a complex thought but think hard and you can figure it out.

And I would like to see his audited financials also. That would nail him.

Fred P. April 16, 2019 at 5:40 AM

Randy ,

In other words, you’re just a sore loser trying to find anything to discredit Trump. No matter what you find or don’t find, you won’t be happy.

Go move to some third world $hit-hole where you’ll be happy bowling at the moon. We’re tired of your whining and crying. Post your address and we’ll even drop by to help you pack.

Liar! Liar! April 18, 2019 at 9:29 AM

Trembling, Randy? Bwahahahahahahahaha!
Your president is doing a happy dance and the never-Trumpers are losing their minds.

SF oh April 14, 2019 at 6:35 PM

@Cryin’ Chuck: I agree. I don’t think Trump really intends to pursue this. I think he is bluffing just to expose their BS.

Dr. Jellyfinger April 14, 2019 at 6:52 PM

and it worked……

Original G April 14, 2019 at 7:07 PM

Might be of interest, PG&E Corp ticker symbol.PCG stock price jumped up by 20.65% last Friday. You really should do a web search and find out why the stock price went us so drastically. Be sure to include newsom in search along with PG&E. Happened two days ago.

You will not believe what democrats are thinking of doing to
PROTECT their Wall Street campaign contributors.

By the way there are 527.56 MILLION share of PG&E in circulation and 92.48% is owned by institutional investors.

Fred P. April 15, 2019 at 5:36 PM

Randy – if it’s legal, so what?

If it wasn’t legal, the IRS would be all over it.

Apparently, that concept is too much for you. I’ve summarized it in two sentences and you and the rest of the Democrats can’t figure it out.

I’m sorry if you’re challenged enough that you can’t think for yourself.

Understand; snowflake?

Think harder.

Randy April 16, 2019 at 9:33 AM

What Capone thought too fool

Dr. Jellyfinger April 16, 2019 at 10:06 AM
Fred P. April 17, 2019 at 11:37 AM

Hell, Randy can’t even string a simple 5-word sentence together correctly. And you claim to know about taxes and economics?

Right, Just like the other Dem boneheads – AOC, Peloosi, Mad Max Waters, et al…..

You still don’t see it. Let me rephrase it for you boneheads….


Does that help?

Or are you just fishing for ANYTHING?

Apparently you’re ok with Congress becoming multimillionaires on a government salary.


Gittyup April 17, 2019 at 5:06 PM

Randy’s looking for that minor math error somewhere in Trump’s taxes so he can say, “See there. Told you so.”

Randy April 17, 2019 at 5:38 PM

Fred. You’re always so wrong people don’t reply to you. But for the last time. So no the IRS would not be all over it but send it the police and they would.

Illegal activities: Income from illegal activities, such as money from dealing illegal drugs, must be included in your income on Form 1040, line 21, or on Schedule C or Schedule C-EZ (Form 1040) if from your self-employment activity. The IRS …

Original G April 15, 2019 at 7:29 PM

Well now after what Cher supposedly posted on LA homeless crisis some news stories are popping up.

” ‘We’ve Really Passed Tipping Point Of Danger’ Says Rev. Andy Bales On The Homeless Crisis ”

Original G April 16, 2019 at 7:05 AM

Population of CA roughly 38 million and Texas is about 29 million.
When homeless numbers are broken down to daily numbers how is it
Texas has only 25,310 people and CA has 129,972 homeless people ? ? ?

Hmm, is ability to take care of people in need a liberal vs conservative thing

Is SF cleaning up it’s act ?

An with newson as governor what chance is there any meaningful help in dealing with homelessness in CA will happen given his long years in SF as a supervisor then as mayor ? ? (1997 – 2011)

‘California mayors call for more state leadership on homelessness crisis”

“… San Francisco: Revolting map reveals the staggering amount of human waste found on storied city’s streets as homeless crisis spirals out of control”

HappyPappy April 16, 2019 at 10:40 AM

Word Games; and how they’re played by liars –

Dems deny the Trump campaign was spied on!?


Surveilling, eyeing, scrutinizing, watching, planting, bugging, and probing are still on the table?

Dr. Jellyfinger April 16, 2019 at 9:59 PM

Lol! Nancy Pel00si admits some Dem’s will vote for anything wit a “D” next to it….

mtzman April 16, 2019 at 11:46 PM

I have no doubt that is true but I also have no doubt there are some Repubs who will vote for anything with a R next to it …

Fred P. April 17, 2019 at 6:24 AM

Just like Democrats/liberals that will vote for anything with a (D) after it.

Any more “words of wisdom?”

Dr. Jellyfinger April 17, 2019 at 8:07 AM

I have never, ever heard any Republican ever make such an insulting statement regarding their Republican supporters.

It was refreshing however, to hear Nancy admit that so many Democrats are just mindless followers who have elected leaders that are nowhere near qualified for the positions they were elected to.

Sorry… that’s just the way things are!

mtzman April 17, 2019 at 11:04 AM

Actually, that’s NOT just the way it is, because that’s not even remotely close to what Pelosi said. Go back and read the link you cited and watch the video.

Dr. Jellyfinger April 17, 2019 at 11:45 AM

Go where? Do what?
Sorry…. not taking orders today!

If you knew anything about Pelosi’s “real” relationships with some of those newly elected Socialists in Congress, you’d understand just what she means under all that sugar talk….. don’t tell me you really don’t know! ….and saying that voters would elect anything with a “D” next to it was hardly a compliment. Yeah, that is the way things are.

mtzman April 17, 2019 at 12:39 PM

It seems that most of the time when you all are called out on your lies, misrepresentations and falsehoods you just ignore it and move on, but here you make it clear that you really just don’t care. I truly don’t understand what you get out of being so dishonest.

Dr. Jellyfinger April 17, 2019 at 3:41 PM

Go look in the mirror & say “Pelosi & AOC are bestest buddies” and then tell me all about honesty. I’ll bet you can’t do it without laughing.

Gittyup April 17, 2019 at 4:08 PM

@mtzman I think it’s fair to draw Jellyfinger’s conclusion from what Pelosi said, She likened a glass of water to some of her colleagues who were elected in strongly Democratic districts, Alexandria Occasional-Cortex. for example. She thoroughly insulted the intellect of Democratic voters and didn’t give it a second thought. But, then Republicans knew Democrats were intellectually compromised all along. It now appears that Democratic “leadership” does, too.

Liar! Liar! April 17, 2019 at 4:23 PM

Pelosi’s exact quote was “But those are districts that are solidly Democratic. This glass of water would win with a D next to its name in those districts”

Dr. Jellyfinger is spot-on, and mtzman is the one who is promoting lies, misrepresentations and falsehoods. But mtzman is half-right. He truly doesn’t understand.

Gittyup April 17, 2019 at 5:00 PM

We saw Pelosi demonstrating her “state of clueless” over the weekend when she reprimanded the President for a Tweet she insisted put Ilhan Omar’s security in jeopardy. But, she had absolutely nothing to say when Maxine Water incited Democrats to “get in their face” of Trump supporters leading to threatening confrontations for people like Sarah Saunders and others by crazed Democrats, simply for doing their jobs. You really cannot defend Pelosi. She operated in another dimension.

Atticus Thraxx April 17, 2019 at 6:02 PM

This looks like fun, can I play?

mtzman April 17, 2019 at 7:15 PM

You all crack me up sometimes, watching you twist and turn in the wind. What Pelosi was pointing out was that Democrats need to do well in other than safe districts like her own district and that of AOC’s, which is exactly what happened when they took back control of the House in 2016.

I did follow J’s advice and spoke the words in front of a mirror. Not sure what all happened but it does seem clear I need a haircut. Perhaps I was thinking of the quote one of you again omitted where Pelosi said AOC was a wonderful member of Congress, or the actual response Pelosi had to Waters’ tweet.

Atticus, it is fun, come on in!

Gittyup April 18, 2019 at 1:51 PM

Nancy Pelosi thinks you’d elect a glass of water if it had a D behind it, mtzman.

Dr. Jellyfinger April 18, 2019 at 8:31 PM

When AOC & Pelosi are rolling around on the floor scratching, slapping & pulling each other’s hair out (verbally, perhaps)……. I will remind you of what you claimed here today mtzman….
I hope you have an appetite for crow.

mtzman April 19, 2019 at 8:42 AM

Yeah, I think I’ll take my chances.

Dr. Jellyfinger April 17, 2019 at 8:26 AM

I see all the border jumpers are in the spotlight again… asking for asylum, claiming they are fleeing persecution… what a load of crap!

They are fleeing poverty and seeking USD (that’s United States Dollars) and that is all it’s about or they’d have just stayed in Mexico.

Current rate of exchange : 1 USD = 18.8343 MXN Figure it out.

Most of these people are young men, sent here to work & send as much money back home to their families as they possibly can.
I don’t blame them…. I’d do it too if I knew there would be no consequences for illegally entering the USA.

Randy April 17, 2019 at 5:24 PM

Are they the November caravan that was threatening our national security right before the election. Or are these a new group threatening the US before the Mueller report comes out?

Randy April 17, 2019 at 8:23 PM

Mueller’s report is 400 pages

ABC has reported the White House response is 200 pages.

Is anyone going to ask why you need a response if you’re “exonerated?” And how you can write a response to a report that hasn’t been released?

mtzman April 17, 2019 at 9:23 PM

You don’t think … ?

Dr. Jellyfinger April 17, 2019 at 10:26 PM

Obvious as it is… that’s still kind of a rude thing to point out mtzman.


“White House lawyers and Department of Justice officials have already discussed details from special counsel Robert Mueller’s conclusions as Washington awaits the release of his redacted report, The New York Times reported Wednesday”.

“The two sides have had “numerous conversations,” according to the newspaper, which said the talks have allowed President Trump’s legal team to begin prepping a response to the report”.

It isn’t a secret.

Forsythe April 18, 2019 at 7:02 AM

Attorney General Barr: “Read my lips. . .NO COLLUSION”.

And now our very own congressional mental giant Mark DeSaulnier gets to eat crow.

Fred P. April 18, 2019 at 7:11 AM

From Newsmax…

Special Counsel Robert Mueller’s report shows that there was no evidence that members of President Donald Trump’s campaign conspired or coordinated with the Russian government in its election interference activities, Attorney General William Barr said Thursday morning.

His statement came in a press conference held before the report was to be released to members of Congress and the public later in the day.

“I am sure that all Americans share my concern about the efforts of the Russian government to interfere in our presidential election,” Barr told reporters.

“As the special counsel report makes clear, the Russian government sought to interfere in our election process. But thanks to the special counsel’s thorough investigation, we now know that the Russian operatives who perpetrated these schemes did not have the cooperation of President Trump or the Trump campaign, or the knowing assistance of any other American for that matter.”

That, he continued, is “something that all Americans can and should be grateful to have confirmed.”

The report does detail efforts by the Internet Research Agency, a Russian company with close ties to the Russian government, to sow social discord among voters, said Barr.

“Following a thorough investigation of this disinformation campaign, the special counsel brought charges in federal court against several Russian nationals and entities for their respective roles in this scheme,” said Barr.

“Those charges remain pending and the individual defendants remain at large. But the special counsel found no evidence that any American, including anyone associated with the Trump campaign, conspired or coordinated with the Russian government or the IRA. In this illegal scheme.”

The investigation also did not identify evidence that any person in the United States “knowingly or intentionally coordinated with the IRA’s interference operation,” said Barr.

The report also details efforts by the Russian military officials associated with the GRU, the Russian military intelligence organization, to hack into computers and steal documents from the Democratic National Committee and the campaign of Hillary Clinton, said Barr, but did not find evidence that members of the Trump campaign were involved.

While you may not read Newsmax, the facts are the same – no matter where you read it.

Cry, liberal LOSERS, cry!!!!! Now go back to your safe spaces and eat your tide pods.

Dr. Jellyfinger April 18, 2019 at 8:01 AM

So…… in other words this is nothing like the Clinton scandal when the Red Chinese funneled money and put operatives to work to get Bill reelected in ’96…. or the Clinton scandal when Hillary helped push the Uranium One deal thru to sell uranium mines to the Russians for some substantial kickbacks to her & Bill…. and ironically fails to mention the Clinton scandal when Hillary paid for Russians to invent a story about Trump & prostitutes in an attempt to smear him, which triggered this whole phony investigation & the Mueller Report in the first place.

Is that about right?

HappyPappy April 18, 2019 at 10:15 AM

More Winning For The American Worker –

Not only has the deficit decreased steadily but;…………….
The number of people who applied for unemployment benefits in Mid-April fell for the fifth week in a row to a nearly 50-year low of 192,000, a remarkably small level of layoffs that gives the economy a sturdy foundation on which it can continue to grow.

Thank you Mr. President.

Fred P. April 18, 2019 at 11:00 AM

Democrats are saying that NOBODY, even the president, is above the law.

My question – why are ILLEGAL ALIENS above the law?

More hypocrisy…..

Dr. Jellyfinger April 18, 2019 at 8:21 PM

A team of 17 FBI agents was given free reign to go wherever and do whatever spending 2 years trying to find the crime of obstruction of justice or to prove the (non crime of) “collusion” with Russia and they come up empty….

But Democrats will pursue this idiocy further and prove the case the FBI couldn’t? Lol!

Good luck whackos…. better you waste time doing that than trying to pass the twisted, anti American legislation your Socialist leaders are promoting.

Nunya April 18, 2019 at 8:50 PM

still can’t get over the fact the democrats lost the 2016 election?

Justifiable anger April 19, 2019 at 7:31 AM

Waiting for the fake dossier time line. Will Hillary and Obama be given a pass? There is definately a double standard for corrupt politicians. Socialism encourages bribery and worse. Cuba, Venezuela, Russia.

JoePepsi April 19, 2019 at 8:25 AM

What was actually said about Sarah Sanders during the Mueller report? How does she measure into what that report was all about? Please, either Repubs or Dems … help me know and understand what this was all about. Thanks all.

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