Claycord – Talk About Politics

March 15, 2019 19:05 pm · 130 comments


This post is “Talk About Politics”.

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Original G March 15, 2019 at 7:06 PM

Article from Washington Post lays out what obama administration did about fentanyl crisis as Americans died. Evidently more concerned about their look good in history and statistics regarding incarceration of minorities.
” “The fentanyl crisis represents an extraordinary public health challenge — and requires an extraordinary public health response,” the experts wrote to six administration officials, including the nation’s “drug czar” and the chief of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

The administration considered the request but did not act on it. ” …

“Standing before hundreds of lawyers gathered for the American Bar Association’s annual conference in San Francisco, Holder announced that he was rolling back the aggressive prosecution strategy that had been launched to target the crack cocaine crisis of the 1980s and 1990s. ”

Original G March 15, 2019 at 9:17 PM

Did you by chance happen to catch newsom’s press release on CA death penalty executions ? Said in part death penalty discriminates against defendants who are mentally ill, black and brown and he said more than three-fifths of Califorina’s Death Row inmates are people of color.

An looking at pictures of newsom …. does appear he’s white.

So maybe all this soft on crime krap is just a whiny liberal thing.

Robles March 15, 2019 at 7:48 PM

If trump has given her a position in his administration, perhaps she would be going to prison along with all of trump’s ex-CON-fidants.

Robles March 15, 2019 at 8:10 PM

This current administration has more turnover than fast food restaurants.

Anne Lloyd March 15, 2019 at 8:33 PM

I thought this was a place to talk about politics, today, not going back in time and bashing old administrations?

Not a Trump Fan March 15, 2019 at 9:34 PM

Totally agree! Obviously you are new here. There is a small group of “regulars” that every week talk mostly about how bad they think Obama was and that Hillary is a criminal. They totally ignore all the shady stuff Trump did/does and actually think he doesn’t lie. Just like Trump and his staff, it’s deflection, deflection, deflection, “alternative facts”.

Gittyup March 15, 2019 at 10:54 PM

You both must be new here. During Obama’s term in office, all liberals could talk about was how Bush had screwed everything up.

Fred P. March 16, 2019 at 8:46 AM

There’s nothing that says the politics being discussed have to about TODAY’s politics. Anyone claiming otherwise is a liar.

That argument has been made largely by the liberals who cannot believe the lying and hypocrisy of the left. They’re unable to face the facts of previous administrations, so they deflect when confronted with those FACTS.

Look at past discussions on this thread. The left is more than willing to discuss past politics here when it fits their agenda.

Just watch.

Not a Trump Fan March 16, 2019 at 3:57 PM

@Gup, the country was in the worst recession since the great depression when Obama took office (from Bush) and whether you like the way he turned it around or not, Trump wouldn’t be reaping the continued economic prosperity without Obama fixing what Bush caused. The positive economic numbers are on a ten year run and only two of those years are under Trump. So yes, there was a lot of talk about how Bush “screwed” everything up.

All this talk about hypocrisy goes both ways. Just go back and see what each party has said over the years. It’s amazing how short people’s memories are when it suits them. Pick any politician and you will find them completely flip-flopping especially Trump. For just about everything he says now, you can find past interviews or tweets that he does a complete 180 on.

And quit calling me a liberal. You have no idea what I am. I don’t like Trump because I think he’s a despicable human being and has no idea what he’s doing. And so much for keeping his promises to NEVER make cuts to Social Security, Medicare or Medicaid which was just revealed in his budget proposal. SS and Medicare are not “entitlements.” We all pay/paid into them every day we work(ed). And so much for lowering the deficit. Cracks are starting to happen in the economy and that’s going to be on dumbo Trump. Anyone who has declared Bankruptcy as many times as him is not a good businessman and unfortunately we are all going to pay for his policies eventually.

@Nunya, “you can keep your doctor” talking point is very old and tired. That’s straight from the WH and Faux News deflection playbook when you start pointing out Trump’s lies. There is a big difference between something not working out the way you think it will and intentionally lying, as Trump does very often. An a-political fact checking website has Trump saying something that is mostly false, false, or made up 70% of the time. You may not have liked Obama or his policies, but his mostly false, false or made up scorecard is 24%. What’s even more disturbing is that it has Trump telling the truth only 4% of the time as compared to 20% for Obama.

foothillsguy March 16, 2019 at 5:09 PM

@not a Trump fan,
Sorry but the recession was caused by Barney Frank and friends who are democrats and Obama had nowhere to go but up and he did very poorly and at a snails pace. Nice try.

Not a Trump Fan March 16, 2019 at 5:39 PM

If you believe that Trump gets the credit for the economy (and low unemployment numbers), even though most of the work was done by the Obama Admin, than Bush gets the blame for the recession. It’s the way it works. You can’t have it both ways.

Dr. Jellyfinger March 16, 2019 at 9:03 PM

But the Bush Administration warned Congress 17 times that….. oh nevermind… Libs will just rewrite history to suit their fictional fantasies where the left wing only takes credit, not responsibility.

Not a Trump Fan March 16, 2019 at 10:37 PM



Gittyup March 16, 2019 at 11:45 PM

@NaTF Just keep telling yourself that if it makes you feel better. It has, however, nothing to do with the reality of the situation.

Fred P. March 17, 2019 at 8:33 AM

Ok, notatrumpfan…

We’ll quit calling you a liberal.

The term “snowflake” appears to fit much better.

Do you feel better now?

Are you gonna stop personally insulting people, too? Don’t forget you don’t KNOW what they are. Or are you just gonna continue being a LIBERAL HYPOCRITE?

Now go to your safe space, chump. Go play with your unicorns and puppies. Until you stop doing what you accuse others of doing, you’re just another useless DNC troll.

Gittyup March 17, 2019 at 3:25 PM

@NaTF You’re spouting the liberal anti-Trump mantra word for word, but, ok. So, what do you call it?

Not a Trump Fan March 19, 2019 at 8:02 PM

The same could be said about you and the rest of the regulars parroting Faux News’/WH spin on everything negative about Trump and repeating alternative facts (aka lies).

Rollo Tomasi March 22, 2019 at 10:20 AM

“There is a big difference between something not working out the way you think it will and intentionally lying…”

Thank you for the apt illustration of the double standard and hypocrisy exercised by the left. So when “you can keep your doctor” turns out to be untrue it just didn’t work out? How about “the individual mandate is not a tax”? Seems even SCOTUS slapped him around for that one.

Here’s where the double standard is so obvious. Out of curiosity I once upon a time clicked a link to what claimed to be the standard bearer of tracking lies by President Trump. What was at the top of the list? The inauguration crowd. So why is it that Trump’s exaggerations about the crowd are lies, but Obama’s statements about Obamacare are just things that didn’t work out? That put into perspective for me what kind of statements the left is willing to characterize as lies in order to bash the President.

Tell me, if you have kids, how many years did you lie to them about Santa Claus?

Gittyup March 22, 2019 at 3:56 PM

In fact, NaTF must still believe in Santa Clause,

Not a Trump Fan March 15, 2019 at 9:02 PM

Boy, you people are a one trick pony. Really??? Obama and Hilary on a day where 49 more innocent people lost their lives due to an angry white supremacist with a cache of guns nobody needs to own. And all Trump could muster was prayers and condolences. If that had been done by an illegal immigrant or muslim, he and his favorite news outlet would be non-stop talking about how we need to build a useless wall and stop the Visa lottery program.

Original G March 15, 2019 at 9:42 PM

An what would be your solution for mass killings in the EU where large heavy trucks were driven at high speed into groups of people?
Happened in 2016.

An what about truck attack in New York in 2017?
ELEVEN DEAD do you even remember it ?

Want to reduce mass attacks ?
STOP giving the rabid cowards publicity !
Never mention their names . . . but media loves to give them the fame their wretched worthless lives never would have. They put them on pedestals, making their body count a goal to be surpassed.

Liar! Liar! March 15, 2019 at 10:10 PM

“angry Left-wing, environmentalist, self-proclaimed socialist, Chinese-communist supporting, white supremacist”

There, I fixed it for you.

Dr. Jellyfinger March 15, 2019 at 10:11 PM

Muslims kill each other at a far higher rate than that every day in the middle east… why should I be more concerned about what happens there or in New Zealand over 6000 miles away?

This is the USA isn’t it?

Fred P. March 16, 2019 at 8:49 AM

And “not” is a perfect example of a one trick pony.

Gittyup March 16, 2019 at 11:17 AM

Once again, NaTF exaggerates to make reality fit the liberal agenda. President Trump made telephone calls to those effected in the New Zealand massacre, and pledged his support, and the support of United States and its considerable resources, in any way that would be of help in the aftermath.

Original G March 15, 2019 at 9:23 PM

Thank You democrats for playing along and giving OUR President exactly what he wanted all along, a Supreme Court decision . . . . “Wait for IT” . . .

“The U.S. Supreme Court on Friday broadened the scope of what it will consider in resolving the legal fight over the contentious decision by President Donald Trump’s administration to add a citizenship question to the 2020 census, agreeing also to decide whether the move violated the U.S. Constitution.

In the aftermath of a March 6 ruling by a federal judge in California, …”

Always Right March 15, 2019 at 9:46 PM

Today was walkout day around the world to protest climate change.

I read with sadness the article in the Concord Pioneer from a high school student completely brainwashed by the fear mongering misanthropic environmentalist movement. She and her friends are soaking up this nonsense about apocalyptic global warming. Sad.

Reality is sea levels are rising – very slowly – and have been since the end of the last ice age 8,000 years ago. No one alive today will even notice the very slow increase of perhaps 1 inch per decade.

Reality is CO2 is a greenhouse gas, but it is also essential for life on earth. The additional CO2 is greening up the planet. Is that a bad thing? Of course not. Higher crop yields, lower human mortality due to starvation. More rainfall and more snow fall due to very slight warming. Another positive side effect.

Reality is the antarctic ice sheet is actually growing in mass, and the forecasts of catastrophic ice melt in the arctic circle has failed to materialize. This season the arctic ice sheets are 200,000 square miles larger than last year.

We have been bulled by A. Gore… and AOC with her Green New Deal. .

Original G March 15, 2019 at 10:32 PM

To all low information voting liberals who believe in this “new green deal” . . . . You can take a stand against increasing levels of
Carbon Dioxide . . . Don’t exhale

To low information voters, that was a joke, continue breathing normally.

Dr. Jellyfinger March 15, 2019 at 11:17 PM

When I was a kid the scientists told us the Earth was cooling because of man made pollution.
They told us Pluto was a planet.
We were taught a Tyrannosaurus Rex had bare, scaly skin.
Now they tell us T-Rex had feathers.
Pluto is a moon.
The Earth is getting warmer because of man made pollution….
Global Warming…. Geez!

And if I don’t believe them, I’M the ignorant one?
Go sell a bridge.

Dr. Jellyfinger March 18, 2019 at 9:42 PM

Stop everything you’re doing! New fact alert!!!

After doctors said for decades that a daily 75 to 100 milligrams of aspirin could prevent cardiovascular problems, the American College of Cardiology and the American Heart Association just reversed that idea.

This change comes after a large clinical trial found a daily low-dose aspirin had no effect on prolonging life in healthy, elderly people, and actually suggested the pills could be linked to major hemorrhages!

But climate change is still real and it’s all because of us humans… at least for the time being, that is.

I wonder if cave men discovering fire ended the Ice Age…. hmmmm.

BOB March 15, 2019 at 11:25 PM

I have been wanting to know where to find the number of people Brown let out of prison. Where do I look? Last year I read about the Billionaire Boys Club guy, doing life, wanted out because Brown had let other lifers “without” out of prison.

Gittyup March 16, 2019 at 11:26 AM

You might go to and type in the box there the words

list of Governor Brown’s pardons

Or, if you don’t want to be tracked, go to and do the same thing.

Original G March 16, 2019 at 11:12 PM

Search using, pardons moonbeam. . . . works just fine.

Gittyup March 17, 2019 at 5:03 AM

This information from the Sacramento Bee
as of December 2017;


Term 1 1975 – 1983 404
Term 2 2011 – 2017 1059


Term 1 and 2 1975 -1983 1
Term 3 and 4 2011 – 2017 37

As of December 29, 2018, with less than a
month to go on his final year in office, he issued
143 pardons and 131 commutations. He may
have issued more in January 2019 before he
left office.

There was online at one time a complete list
including names and offenses during his terms
in office. His State of California website has
been moved and archived and if that was
where the information on pardons and
commutations resided, it now appear to be

Gittyup March 17, 2019 at 5:20 AM

It would be nice, by the way, to have the complete
list of Pardons and Commutations by Governor Brown
for future reference so that he might be held responsible
in the event that someone on the list committed additional
crimes. Some were convicted murders. And, those once
convicted are occasionally repeat offenders.

Ricardoh March 16, 2019 at 10:42 AM

Was so nice to see the indoctrinated children yesterday marching for the Green New Deal.

SF oh March 16, 2019 at 1:39 PM

Agreed. I saw some rally for this on the news last night . Nothing I enjoy more than being lectured by 10-year olds on a topic that is far too complex for them to understand. I feel that using kids to promote political opinions is a form of child abuse. These stupid parents need to step up and be adults. Let the kids be kids and stop hiding behind them to push an agenda.

Original G March 16, 2019 at 3:25 PM

“Give me four years to teach the children and the seed I have sown will never be uprooted” — Vladimir Lenin

“Give us the child for 8 years and it will be a Bolshevik forever.”
–Vladimir Lenin

“The goal of socialism is communism.” –Vladimir Lenin

If only schools would teach a rudimentary vocational skill set which could be completed with two additional years at a local Junior College resulting in a living wage job.

Gittyup March 17, 2019 at 4:10 AM

Very sad the way liberals use their children to further their own beliefs.

mtzman March 17, 2019 at 4:02 PM
Original G March 16, 2019 at 5:55 PM

“At least 120 people have been killed by alleged Fulani militant attacks since February in the Kaduna state of Nigeria with the latest attacks on Monday resulting in the deaths of over 50 and the destruction of more than 140 homes.”

‘Nigeria violence death toll ‘exceeds 200’…’

Does American cable news carry the story of those murdered,
almost all are NOT white and they were Christians ? ? ?.
Unfortunately the dead aren’t useful in advancing predetermined and preplanned agenda driven news cycle.

Too bad they’re the wrong color and wrong religion to matter.

Dr. Jellyfinger March 16, 2019 at 8:37 PM

Now if all those murdered Nigerians had been killed by white supremacists…… NEWSFLASH!

The Fearless Spectator March 16, 2019 at 7:52 PM

Gavin Newsom knows what it’s like to be downtrodden and discriminated against. Cozying up to the Getty Family all those years must have been hard work. He’s had it rough, just like those death row inmates.

Here is a sample of his income stream, of which I will never do business:

PlumpJack Squaw Valley Inn
The Hideaway Carmel
The Getaway Carmel
PlumpJack Estate Winery
CADE Eatate Winery
Odette Estate Winery
13th Vineyard
Balboa Cafe San Francisco
PlumpJack Cafe Squaw Valley
Forgery Bar
Wild Hawk
White Rabbit Bar
PlumpJack Sport Squaw Valley
PlumpJack Wine & Spirits Marina & Noe Valley

Original G March 16, 2019 at 10:58 PM

An let us not forget his very humble beginnings in the world of progressive liberal politics where there is almost no limit to amount of taxpayer dollars they are willing to waste on problems.

Usually problems originally created by liberals pursuing their Utopian fantasy world. The one they will control.

‘How eight elite San Francisco families funded Gavin Newsom’s political ascent’

Silva March 16, 2019 at 9:44 PM


Original G March 16, 2019 at 11:04 PM

Imagine for a moment, if you will, a parallel would.
One in which illegals voted only for republicans . . . .
how different that border might look.

Tsa March 17, 2019 at 10:32 AM

It’s time to start the recall process for Gavin NewScum, the lying hypocrite…

Not a Trump Fan March 17, 2019 at 1:00 PM

So you bash a non-partisan pulitzer prize winning website for “having Trump Derangement Syndrome” (not a real thing) but you expect everyone to believe totally biased conservative websites like and Pro-choice doesn’t equal infanticide.

Original G March 17, 2019 at 6:57 PM

Another item to include on petition for recall.

Original G March 17, 2019 at 7:21 PM

Have repeatedly suggested names of rabid mass killers should never be mentioned. Article is worth a read.

“… a criminologist at the University of Alabama, who has studied the influence of media coverage on future shooters, said it’s vitally important to avoid excessive coverage of gunmen.

“A lot of these shooters want to be treated like celebrities. They want to be famous. So the key is to not give them that treatment,”…

Always Right March 18, 2019 at 3:34 PM

Turns out the Australian mass murderer was a self described “eco-fascist” who detested Muslim immigrants not because of their religion, but because of their propensity to have lots of children.

His manifesto rant stated his admiration for China’s abortion and birth control policy, his fear of impending ecological doom due to global warming and overpopulation.

Gittyup March 18, 2019 at 10:57 PM

And, yet, some liberals are trying to blame Trump for attacks this attack. If this mass murderer admired China’s abortion and birth control policy it sounds like he might be more alied with the liberal side of the political spectrum.

It would seem that the fear of global warming is more dangerous than the global warming itself. In fact, global warming is merely a theory postulated by some scientists to insure generous and continued government funding for their life’s work. Even scientists disagree on whether it is actually taking place.

Atticus Thraxx March 18, 2019 at 7:26 PM

If every black, Hispanic, and Muslim male in America suddenly and without explanation went and bought an AR-15 tomorrow, there’d be no such thing as the Second Amendment by close of business Friday. Fact.
Convince me I’m wrong. 😎

Dr. Jellyfinger March 18, 2019 at 8:43 PM

I’m not so sure about that Atticus…according to the Washington Post, here are more than 393 million civilian-owned firearms in the USA already… and if you’re inferring that White folks would panic about it…. well, if it’s a race war….I’d bet the Blacks, Hispanics & Muslims would kill each other before they’d go gunning for the White folks….. provided all those new gun owners can even find any ammo left on the shelf.

Rollo Tomasi March 18, 2019 at 11:48 PM

Hmm – what race are the Muslims?

The fact that you’d post such a comment says far more about you than anyone who would waste time debating your garbage.

Justifiable anger March 19, 2019 at 6:58 AM

I see the burning ember of affirmative action racism is alive and well. The fact remains that a law abiding Citizen does have the right to own fire arms in the US. Gangsters, felons and illigal aliens do not.

Rather than emulate Cuba, Venezuela, china, N.Korea, maybe we should emulate Switzerland.

Dr. Jellyfinger March 19, 2019 at 8:42 AM

OK… gang war, race war, Jihad…. whatever.
I didn’t see either one of you answer Atticus’ question tho…
Are you just too timid to offer an opinion because someone might accuse you of being “racist”?

Is the question too difficult to answer and still remain painfully PC?

Remember…. I just offered an opinion, I did not pose the question.

Justifiable anger March 19, 2019 at 2:46 PM

I have to agree with Rollo Tomasi. The original post was more a comment than a question. Stirring up the population with race baiting is what I perceived.

The whole point of the second ammendment is, it cannot be abolished.

As for PC, I believe most people are more comfortable with their own kind. Whether the division is race, morals or cultural. That is the reason for slowing immigration enough to allow for cultural immersion.

Those who do not embrace the chosen host should move along. For instance if I travelled abroad, I would bow to the cultural standards of my surroundings. Or simply avoid that country.

Gittyup March 19, 2019 at 3:25 PM

Comments fell of when the weather got nice and somebody had to round up the herd.

Dr. Jellyfinger March 19, 2019 at 8:18 PM

OK JA, I’ll agree with you… “people are more comfortable with their own kind” and murder statistics tend to back that up.
One researcher said “We tend to kill the people we know” and the statistics prove the overwhelming percentage of murders are committed by people of the same race as their victims…. that includes White folks…so if my comment that “Blacks, Hispanics and Muslims would probably kill each other before White people” offends you & Rollo and brands me a racist, so be it.
Statistics support my contention.

slagheap March 19, 2019 at 9:32 PM

wrong again, Justifiable. no charge for the law lesson:

Rollo Tomasi March 20, 2019 at 8:29 AM

OK Jelly, although I didn’t think Atticus’ racially charged and bigoted comment didn’t really deserve a serious response, I’ll forge ahead. As slagheap has since pointed out, repeal of a constitutional amendment requires that an amendment to repeal pass both houses of Congress by a 2/3 majority, then 3/4 of the states must ratify the repeal amendment. So, Atticus’ assertion that “there’d be no such thing as the Second Amendment by close of business Friday. Fact“ is not only non-factual, but smacks of an AOC level of wisdom. Not to mention the possibility of projecting one’s own pathetic biases onto others, which is how I perceived Atticus’ comment.
By the way Jelly, neither you nor the nutbag leftists here could offend me if you tried.

Justifiable anger March 20, 2019 at 9:21 AM

Dr. JF: I did not group you in with the racists. Especially since a modern twisting regarding the definition of Racism has changed considerably over the decades. A tactic that I pointed out by labeling as such “affirmative action racism”. True racism is the belief that persons are genetically incapable, such as brain capacity or learning disabilities. Modern day accusations blend the emotions towards heinous crimes of slavery with what is merely bias. Not to discount Bias, but vastly different. And, Convenient for stirring up HATE. Once hate is incited, conversation ends. This is what democrats want. Socialism is the vehicle to guarantee continued disparity.

Your willingness to be branded a racist for daring to comment, is risky but admirable. Thankfully, there are some of us that will rescue the stoic. Especially since it is conversation that is needed, and desired.

Nunya: I have no illusions about the proposed Reparations. Indeed, I contend we are already decades involved with it. Welfare, social services. The persons coming over the border have been recipients for decades with free, health, special loans, legal services, advice on how to cheat the system to get more. This costs US waaay more than a few tens of Billions. It is also the reason there is a housing shortage, huge increases in cost of health care and rent. What I don’t understand is how persons from other factions of society are not furious over the preference shown illegals, dopers and other criminals.

Slagheap: Adam D’Angelo is an Indian internet entrepreneur of Italian descent. He is best known as the co-founder and CEO of Quora, based in Mountain View, California. He was chief technology officer of Facebook, and also served as its vice president of engineering, until 2008. In June 2009, he started Quora. He is a member of the board of directors of OpenAI, and an investor in internet companies.

I try to keep an open mind about my resources. Which is why I don’t close my mind automatically towards opinion. There is another opinion a few paragraphs down that voices the opposite.

Original G March 18, 2019 at 8:37 PM

Sanctuary . . . . CA the perfect place to hide out . . .

“Authorities say a former Peruvian president who is wanted in connection with Latin America’s biggest graft scandal was arrested in California on suspicion of public intoxication over the weekend and was briefly detained.”

Reportedly accused of having received $20 million in bribes . . .
Perhaps the “climate” here agreed with him.

Gittyup March 19, 2019 at 3:45 AM

@NaTF Nothing wrong with balancing the liberal bias and hate with a little conservative reality and truth.

Randy March 19, 2019 at 8:01 AM

All Muslim Mosques should now have designated trained armed staff to protect their members.

Dr. Jellyfinger March 19, 2019 at 8:47 AM

Alot of churches already do.
Schools should too.

Original G March 19, 2019 at 8:57 AM

Doesn’t our most precious resource deserve to be protected while they are in school?

Dr. Jellyfinger March 19, 2019 at 10:32 AM

Remember what happened in Russia in 2004 at the school in Beslan?
334 people died at the hands of Islamic militants.

Original G March 19, 2019 at 9:29 AM

Political cartoonist Michael P. Ramirez is absolutely correct,

Original G March 19, 2019 at 10:46 AM

From CA -Tijuana border comes this tidbit.
Citizens of Tijuana are stealing concertina or razor wire from US border fencing and using it to protect their homes. The WHY is simple, for 2018 Tijuana was the most dangerous city in the world. And listening to some democrat politicians one gets the impression they might even favor tearing down border fencing.

Randy March 19, 2019 at 10:17 PM

They will use the wall to build houses.

Original G March 19, 2019 at 2:54 PM

You all remember that declaring of a national emergency at the border after Pelosi did her F The President thing and denied funding ? ? ? Right ?

This is so friggin’ priceless, . . . . turns out there is all kinds of money already approved for projects that hasn’t been spent and some of it was approved during the obama administration which is even better. There’s a 20 page list just from the Department of Defense. And those approved unspent funds evidently can be reprioritized.

Even if you have triple pane windows you’ll probably be able to hear the whining of democrat politicians and their bobble headed media.

Pelosi could have placated Trump . . . . but no, she had to play games which will likely cost Congressional seats in 2020, energized Trump’s base and enabled him to probably get maybe across government get triple or more in funding to build the wall.

Would not be at all surprised if that 20 page list and others like it were compiled and ready to go long before President Trump asked for the low amount of $8.6 million, knowing democrats would play games.

mtzman March 19, 2019 at 3:58 PM

So if there is all this money laying around from the Obama Administration and if there is such an emergency, why didn’t Trump just use it as soon as he came into office?

Original G March 19, 2019 at 5:39 PM

An pass up the opportunity of allowing pelosi to brain fade and stutter thru press conferences. Humiliation of losing a nationwide LIVE ON CAMERA argument with the President of the United States. Allowing democrats to portray their party as putting illegals above and before American citizens.

Allowing pelosi and democrats look like the bumbling incompetents they are ? ? ? ? They flat got played, . . . . is such a joy to watch the deep state circle the drain.

mtzman March 20, 2019 at 12:18 AM

Perhaps more clearly than anything else, this post illustrates the moral and ethical bankruptcy of this president, his administration, and those who support him. You all claim there is this horrific national emergency and humanitarian crisis, that hordes of invaders, including violent gangs, drug smugglers, murderers, rapists and terrorists, are threatening the security of our country and victimizing innocent women and children, and the only solution is to build some sort of wall that will save us all and restore God, mother and apple pie to the deserving. You also claim that the money to solve this national emergency and humanitarian crisis has been there all along but you’d rather stick it to Nancy Pelosi and the Democrats instead.

Such a display of unmitigated hubris is immoral and just downright disgusting.

Silva March 20, 2019 at 10:35 AM


mtzman March 20, 2019 at 7:10 PM

Need a dictionary?

Gittyup March 20, 2019 at 10:30 PM

Actually, that word reached its peak usage in the 1800s in England, but that’s ok. Some people are just more comfortable living in other centuries.

Dr. Jellyfinger March 20, 2019 at 10:48 PM

I have a cousin named Hubris in Stock Pond, Oklahoma.

Susan I. March 20, 2019 at 11:27 PM

Actually the use of the word “hubris” has steady increased since the mid 19th century.

Jojo Potato March 21, 2019 at 5:30 AM

Larry Wall famously wrote in the 2nd edition, 1996 of the Perl Programmer:

“there are three great virtues of a programmer; Laziness, Impatience and Hubris”

You are welcome to look it up.

mtzman March 21, 2019 at 9:36 AM

Wow, I had no idea etymology was so popular around here! I have no idea when it hit its peak in usage (nor do I find that particularly relevant), but where I have seen it used most is in theological discourse.

Gittyup March 22, 2019 at 3:49 PM

@ Like the Collins Dictionary is the authority, LOL

amieollie March 19, 2019 at 7:27 PM

Pride goeth before a fall. You and “he who cannot be named” seem to share a particular incoherence, born out of a deep need to scuttle the truth. Your desperation is becoming more evident. Listen to yourself. And, to paraphrase Satchel Paige, “Don’t look back, some one IS gaining on you.

slagheap March 19, 2019 at 9:24 PM

my, my, my, my, my. heh, heh. el presidente has had quite a week, hasn’t he, and it’s only tuesday night! i hope all those thinking he’s gonna’ skate have been paying attention.

Dr. Jellyfinger March 20, 2019 at 12:04 AM

T’was the night before Mueller’s report’s to come out,
Libs groaning & moaning… beginning to pout,
Their dreams of proving collusion laid bare,
The proof they were promised… simply was not there!
Reporters sedated, crashed out in their beds,
While nightmares of Donald Trump danced in their heads,
Chuck Schumer was having his 11th night cap,
Till he passed out and spilled all the booze on his lap,
When on the TV there arose such a clatter,
He sprang from the bar to see what was the matter.
On CNN there was sudden breaking news,
Chuck turned up the TV, and threw up on his shoes,
(It’s not verified, but all news people know,
You gotta be first to break news on the show).
A reporter read loud for the whole world to hear,
A copy of Mueller’s report making clear,
That Trump had sold out to some KGB spies,
For hookers & cash & a Big Mac with fries.
Round the nation all Democrats sprang up from bed,
“Turn on CNN did you hear what they said?”
Donald Trumps toast, they got him, he’s slime,
“We’re gonna impeach the M’fer this time!”
But only a minute or two had gone past,
When the mood in the news room was changing,
Changing fast….
Chuck sat himself down and prepared for the worst,
CNN broke the story, yes they had it first,
A reporter explained that reporting so quick,
They let down their guard and they fell for a trick,
The story was false and that’s the excuse,
For once again being the source of Fake News.

Original G March 20, 2019 at 3:01 PM

Dr. Jellyfinger …. That was great. Thank You for taking the time and sharing it with us.

Dr. Jellyfinger March 21, 2019 at 8:22 AM

Don’t thank me… thank Slagheap.
He is my inspiration…. my muse.

It’s as though everytime I read some steaming pile of Liberal BS he dumps here, Calliope herself wells up inside my breast!
I am possessed and helpless but to do her bidding and wax politically, poetically!

Plus, I’d been drinking.

Dr. Jellyfinger March 22, 2019 at 3:13 PM

The Mueller report has finally been released!

Geraldo Rivera can breathe a sigh of relief now….
His Al Capone’s Secret Vault special is no longer the largest anti climax in the history of the world.

Randy March 20, 2019 at 12:28 PM

Trump Needs a Mental health evaluation ASAP, his behavior over the past couple of weeks is down right alarming, from making threats against the American people who don’t support hin, his latest Twitter tantrums, attacking the late John McCain. This raving lunatic is growing mentally unstable by the day.

Dr. Jellyfinger March 20, 2019 at 12:44 PM

We should heed Randy’s advice (it takes one to know one).

Fred P. March 20, 2019 at 12:57 PM

Well, well, well….

Randy, the self-proclaimed psychiatrist and mental health expert returns – and claims to still be able to do a mental health evaluation from reading Trump’s tweets. We’re STILL waiting for you to provide evidence of your training/experience/education that supports your “evaluation.”

Every time you democrats lose, you want to change the rules…..increase the numbers on the SCOTUS, eliminate the electoral college, etc…

Given the number of democrat “contenders” for POTUS, I think you’ll see Trump win in 2020. We’re just waiting for Ginsburg to fall off the bench so he can appoint another conservative. That’ll give you something to REALLY cry about.

Give it up, sonny. You’re nothing more than another sore loser. But you can keep on ranting, crying and howling in the wind.

Lastly, you might want to re-enroll in bonehead English. It appears you never proofread what you post, which tells us that you’re just an angry little spoiled child who can’t hit the “enter” key fast enough.

Go back to playing in the kitty litter.

Jojo Potato March 20, 2019 at 12:58 PM

It’s really unbelievable to have a President that is threatening me with his friends the military and police and bikers.

Pat March 20, 2019 at 2:42 PM

Exactly what Randy said.

Original G March 20, 2019 at 2:58 PM

If there are going to be evaluations let at least one of the examiners have an extensive background in geriatric competency.
Testing should be same as used when determining competence in the elderly.

Also suggest in name of fairness exams be bipartisan an include schumer and pelosi. YA know that glass houses rocks thing . . . . 6 years ago.

Always Right March 20, 2019 at 3:40 PM

President Trump is insensitive and even obnoxious at times. He is like the old uncle who always makes cringe-worthy comments at family get togethers. He is a curmudgeon, but by now everyone knows him and no one should be surprised or particularly alarmed by his occasional tweet storms.

At age 70 something, he is who he is. Very predictable. He will not fit into the regular polished executive or politician mold. Some people think that is endearing and refreshing. I think it is an annoying character flaw.

That said I don’t see any democrats running or likely to run that I would ever consider supporting.

Their policy flaws far outweigh our curmudgeon-in-chief’s character flaws.

The democrat party and their candidates are destroying America socially and economically. They deny economic reality and gender reality. They wantonly kill unborn babies by the millions, but feign compassion for convicted murderers. They hate Christians with traditional values and Israel – oh how they hate Israel!

The once great democratic party has become the party of division and hate. The party of socialism and communism. The party of 1984.

Silva March 20, 2019 at 6:32 PM

A Cry for Vengeance,
To the chief Musician, A Psalm of David.

1 Hold not thy peace, O God of my praise;
2 for the mouth of the wicked and the mouth of the deceitful are opened
against me: they have spoken against me with a lying tongue.
3 They compassed me about also with words of hatred; and fought
against me without a cause.
4 For my love they are my adversaries: but I give myself unto prayer.
5 And they have rewarded me evil for good, and hatred for my love.
6 Set thou a wicked man over him: and let Satan stand at his right hand.
7 When he shall be judged, let him be condemned: and let his prayer
become sin.
8 Let his days be few; and let another take his office.
9 Let his children be fatherless, and his wife a widow.
10 Let his children be continually vagabonds, and beg: let them seek their
bread also out of their desolate places.
11 Let the extortioner catch all that he hath; and let the strangers spoil his
2 Let there be none to extend mercy unto him: neither let there be any to
favor his fatherless children.
13 Let his posterity be cut off; and in the generation following let their
name be blotted out.
14 Let the iniquity of his fathers be remembered with the LORD; and let
not the sin of his mother be blotted out.
15 Let them be before the LORD continually, that he may cut off the
memory of them from the earth.
16 Because that he remembered not to show mercy, but persecuted the
poor and needy man, that he might even slay the broken in heart.
17 As he loved cursing, so let it come unto him: as he delighted not in
blessing, so let it be far from him.
18 As he clothed himself with cursing like as with his garment, so let it
come into his bowels like water, and like oil into his bones.
19 Let it be unto him as the garment which covereth him, and for a girdle
wherewith he is girded continually.
20 Let this be the reward of mine adversaries from the LORD, and of
them that speak evil against my soul.
21 But do thou for me, O GOD the Lord, for thy name’s sake: because thy
mercy is good, deliver thou me.
22 For I am poor and needy, and my heart is wounded within me.
23 I am gone like the shadow when it declineth: I am tossed up and down
as the locust.
24 My knees are weak through fasting; and my flesh faileth
of fatness.
25 I became also a reproach unto them: when they looked upon me they
shook their heads.
26 Help me, O LORD my God: O save me according to thy mercy:
27 that they may know that this is thy hand; that thou, LORD, hast done it.
28 Let them curse, but bless thou: when they arise, let them be
ashamed;but let thy servant rejoice.
29 Let mine adversaries be clothed with shame; and let them cover
themselves with their own confusion, as with a mantle.
30 I will greatly praise the LORD with my mouth; yea, I will praise him
among the multitude.
31 For he shall stand at the right hand of the poor, to save him from those
that condemn his soul.

The Holy Bible: King James Version, 2000.

HappyPappy March 21, 2019 at 9:42 AM

Do we now need another link established to accommodate the inane rantings of overzealous religious nuts?

Dr. Jellyfinger March 21, 2019 at 10:03 AM

That’s not fair Happy Pappy… Silva is not “overzealous”.

Jojo Potato March 21, 2019 at 11:38 AM

Pappy, cutting and pasting into the politics thread is long established accepted behavior on this site. If you don’t like it, the just skip it. Thanks.

Silva March 21, 2019 at 12:49 PM

I thought it was a very good song.

Original G March 20, 2019 at 8:03 PM

Another major problem embarrassing democrats and making them look bad in New York. Seem that New York City’s has elite public high schools where only criteria for admission is a high test score. Problem is too many children of ASIAN descent are getting high test scores and being admitted.

An what do the whiny liberal politicians want, while completely ignoring fact that NY school system is failing Hispanic, Black and White children ? ? ?
Perhaps problem is tenure . . . . (CHum)

Original G March 20, 2019 at 10:26 PM

We already knew progressive liberal politicians wanted to penalize the rich, now they want to penalize children for being smart.

Original G March 21, 2019 at 3:36 PM

” Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez has slammed an elite public high school in Manhattan for admitting only seven black students out of 895 available slots in the freshman class.

‘This is a system failure,’ the freshman New York Democrat wrote on Twitter of entrance stats at Stuyvesant High School. ‘Education inequity is a major factor in the racial wealth gap. This is what injustice looks like.’

Stuyvesant is one of New York City’s elite specialized schools, which admit students based solely on their performance on the Specialized High Schools Admissions Test.

Currently, the student body at Stuyvesant is 74 per cent Asian, many of them from low-income and immigrant families.”

Grandstanding for attention from media and free face time on TV.

Gittyup March 20, 2019 at 10:25 PM

But, not as priceless as you. You couldn’t find words, so you stooped to insults. Rub your two braincells together and contribute something more constructive, Dude..

Randy March 20, 2019 at 10:54 PM

Trump is an embarrassment to the Presidency

Asked how his tweets attacking George Conway fit first lady Melania Trump’s “Be Best” campaign,

Pres. Trump tells @ABC News’ @karentravers “He’s a whack job” who is “doing a tremendous disservice to a wonderful wife… I call him Mr. Kellyanne.”

Not a Trump Fan March 21, 2019 at 4:51 PM

I get that you like Trump but you might want to pick a different barometer for comparing administrations because as proved over and over again, Trump and his administration has lied and continues to lie at an unprecedented pace. Nearly 60% of Americans disapprove of Trump. It’s pretty crazy that Kellyanne Conway’s husband, who is a very conservative lawyer, is increasingly publicly calling him out on all the lying and despicable behavior. If that doesn’t tell you everything you need to know about Trump, than I don’t know what will.

P.S. I’d love to be a fly on the wall at their dinner table.

Dr. Jellyfinger March 21, 2019 at 10:07 AM

Democrats are talking about adding more Supreme Court Justices, lowering the voting age to 16 and abolishing the Electoral College.

This is straight out of the DNC Playbook… if you can’t win the game, CHANGE THE RULES!

Randy March 21, 2019 at 10:53 AM

The National Cathedral offered itself for the funeral service. The president has is not involved in that. The services in Arizona was, of course, sponsored by the state. The military transportation of the casket was a federal expense, which I doubt Trump had to personally approve. A tiny fraction of cost of a weekend of golf for Trump. He is a pathetic idiot. (In retrospect, the family should have simply paid for commercial transportation. They could easily afford it.)

Original G March 21, 2019 at 2:53 PM

Evidently we are seeing the middle of a conversation you were having.

If “…the family should have simply paid for commercial transportation….” means members of the Trump family, seriously doubt Secret Service would have allowed them to travel commercial.

Not a Trump Fan March 21, 2019 at 3:20 PM

Morally challenged Liar-in-cheif shows again why he’s so despicable as a Global leader and general human being. What he’s been saying (again and again) about deceased decorated war hero, John McCain is just wrong. For starters, good manners dictate that you don’t speak ill of the dead. But beyond that, McCain had far more courage, decency, honor, trustworthiness, (etc) in his little finger than Trump has at all. Yesterday at a Tank factory in Ohio, the crowd was silent when he started his shameful attack on McCain. And then he lied that he was asked about his recent comments at that event (which is not true) and that he “approved/gave him the funeral that he wanted and was never thanked.” According to the National Cathedral, no funeral at the Cathedral requires the approval or involves consultation from the President except for a former President.

Again it just amazes me how Trump’s lying and lack of common decency doesn’t bother his supporters. Especially since he’s a cowardly military dodger with those bone spurs and all and he’s disparaging a beloved member of his own political party. It takes a real leader and hero to bad mouth a dead man.

Not a Trump Fan March 21, 2019 at 3:34 PM

So what!! Trump got his start in politics by paying off a porn star and playboy bunny to keep quiet about their affairs while his 3rd wife was pregnant. Not to mention the help he received from all the now convicted/jailed/indicted campaign personnel, lawyer, and friends.

Not a Trump Fan March 21, 2019 at 5:06 PM

So Trump signs an EO promoting free speech on college campuses but tweeted over the weekend that the Justice Department should begin an investigation into SNL and other late night programs for their satire about him. So much for the First Amendment. Just another idiotic move by a narcissistic bully who likes to dish it out but can’t take it. What’s even more ridiculous is that SNL was a rerun that aired just before Christmas. What a dope!!! If it wasn’t so pathetic, it would be funny.

Dr. Jellyfinger March 22, 2019 at 8:34 AM

Justice Department? When did he say that?

What I heard was:

“It’s truly incredible that shows like Saturday Night Live, not funny/no talent, can spend all of their time knocking the same person (me), over & over, without so much of a mention of “the other side.” Like an advertisement without consequences. Same with Late Night Shows……”
“Should Federal Election Commission and/or FCC look into this? There must be Collusion with the Democrats and, of course, Russia! Such one sided media coverage, most of it Fake News. Hard to believe I won and am winning. Approval Rating 52%, 93% with Republicans. Sorry! #MAGA.”

Do you know the difference between the DOJ & the FCC? or the FEC?

Whether Trump was even serious about it is debateable, but what is truly pathetic, is your promoting this non story to be something it’s not. .. Trump is right about you left wingnuts & “fake news”.

Fred P: March 22, 2019 at 9:44 AM

Keep crying….

It seems that’s all you’re capable of doing. Obviously, you can’t contribute anything of value, so you just continually spout insults.

Your parents must be proud if you, hiding behind a keyboard and throwing out insults.

mtzman March 22, 2019 at 10:06 AM

Yes, truly pathetic! The world is right about you right wingnuts and “fake news.” Correct me if I’m wrong but Trump tweeted those words. So, how could you have heard them? But I’m not gonna go there. Wouldn’t be prudent.

But what I find perhaps a bit more disturbing is the fact that neither you nor your other right wingnuts seem to have a problem with a president of the United States repeatedly calling for any kind of federal investigation, be it the DOJ, FEC, FCC, or whatever, or calling for “retribution” against a media outlet because he doesn’t like what they say about him.

Dr. Jellyfinger March 22, 2019 at 11:19 AM

” Correct me if I’m wrong but Trump tweeted those words. So, how could you have heard them?”

OK mtzman…. you’re wrong, so I will correct you.

The first account of this story that I became aware of, I “heard” on my car radio. My second exposure to this story came about when I not only “heard” the story but also “saw” the story being recounted on television news! Isn’t technology wonderful?

I do confess however that I did “read” the story when I looked it up on the internet to copy & paste Trump’s exact words in order to correct Not a Trump Fan, for his misquote about the “Justice Department”.

mtzman March 22, 2019 at 1:16 PM

Yes, Dr. J, it’s the quotation marks that got me. I do apologize, but, at the same time, still haven’t seen, heard, read anything from you or the others about my real point.

The same would also apply to your later post about the Associated Press. I appreciate your saying it would be understandable if the blue team got upset, and I equally appreciate your thoughts, but why shouldn’t the red team be equally upset?

Not a Trump Fan March 22, 2019 at 2:56 PM

@DrJ, your right on one point, I mis-spoke that he tweeted Justice Department so thanks for the correction. Like @mtzman, it’s the fact that Trump wants people/shows/media investigated by any Fed agency because they are not favorable to him is my main point and is protected by the First Amendment. Yet, he then signs an EO that funding will be taken away from colleges that don’t let rightwing nut jobs speak because it goes against the First Amendment.

And “whether Trump was ever serious about it is debatable”, come on DrJ, he was dead serious. Just go back and look at how many times he’s complained about SNL and other media that aren’t “favorable” to him. Just this week, he’s even complaining about his favorite news outlet because not all of their soldiers towed the WH line.

And I can’t let the last line of his tweet go without calling out the “pants on fire” lie that his approval rating is 52%. Maybe in his dreams, but the number I saw/heard was in the 42%-45% range.

@Fred, right back at ya!

Dr. Jellyfinger March 22, 2019 at 3:49 PM

The Red Team was upset about it.

It would have been understandable if the Blue Team got upset too…..they should have…..but they didn’t!

Fred P. March 22, 2019 at 8:15 AM

@nota and randy….

Since you’re so unhappy with Trump as president, why don’t you move to some third world country where you’ll be happy?

Or are just like the rest of the Democrats who like to whine, complain and howl at the moon?

Btw, that last was a rhetorical question….

Not a Trump Fan March 22, 2019 at 3:18 PM

@Fred, the same could be said about all the Republicans that are so unhappy with Newsom. Why don’t you move out of CA to whine, complain and howl at the moon?

Dr. Jellyfinger March 22, 2019 at 10:41 AM

Now if the Blue team got upset over this investigation I wouldn’t blame them. It is undeniably an abuse of power & authority by the President & his DOJ trying to track down leaks to the press.

“Associated Press revealed that the Justice Department has secretly collected two months’ worth of personal and work-related phone calls made by AP reporters and editors.

Federal officials secretly obtained records on incoming and outgoing calls made by specific AP journalists, as well as general news staff, the news group reported, potentially compromising many sources totally unrelated to the investigation. Federal investigators even collected data on calls made by AP reporters in the House of Representatives press gallery.
The White House communications director said “We’re going to treat them the way we would treat an opponent. As they are undertaking a war against the White House, we don’t need to pretend that this is the way that legitimate news organizations behave.”

Original G March 22, 2019 at 2:47 PM

Dr. Jellyfinger …. Thanks for posting this, so timely.

Not a Trump Fan March 22, 2019 at 3:10 PM

Nice try Dr.J. Don’t take the bait people. This is from 2013 about a story the AP wrote in May 2012 that broke the news of a foiled plot and how the Obama Administration tried to find the leaker. I’m guessing you just want someone to bash Trump so you can then reveal that it was the Obama Administration. What-aboutism at its finest.

Dr. Jellyfinger March 22, 2019 at 3:55 PM
Original G March 22, 2019 at 4:13 PM

By gosh, . . . . . . one of ’em caught on. CHum

Quote, “We’re going to treat them the way we would treat an opponent. As they are undertaking a war against the White House, we don’t need to pretend that this is the way that legitimate news organizations behave.”, was given by Anita Dunn during a NY Times interview October 11, 2009.

That quote is similar to one attributed to an obama minion.
“After we win this election, it’s our turn. Payback time.
Everyone not with us is against us and they better be ready because we don’t forget. The ones who helped us will be rewarded, the ones who opposed us will get what they deserve.

There is going to be hell to pay. Congress won’t be a problem for us
this time. No election to worry about after this is over and we have two judges ready to go.”

Dr. Jellyfinger March 22, 2019 at 5:11 PM

What is this new Democrat buzzword “Whataboutism”?
They say it like it’s a bad thing…something petty to be ignored.
What it seems to translate out as is, anything that points out Democrat hypocrisy or double standards as evidenced by their past behavior.

Randy March 22, 2019 at 5:14 PM

Is the Benghazi investigation over?

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