Plans To Close Pleasant Hill Library Leads To Controversy During Supes Meeting

March 14, 2019 8:00 am · 78 comments

Plans to build a new library in Pleasant Hill turned controversial this week during a meeting of the Contra Costa County Board of Supervisors.

The new library will feature a collection of 70,000 items as well as a maker space, a cafe and a used bookstore when it’s completed in 2021, according to documents posted on the library website, but area residents are
displeased that the existing library is scheduled for closure this summer.

“We need the old library to remain open because it’s especially important,” Dick Offerman said during public comment. “The library has been a safe after-school spot for generations.”

Offerman said of the decision, “It has been a well kept secret. In fact it’s only come to light in the last few weeks.”

Offerman was not the only member of the public to comment on the library’s closure Tuesday morning, but when public comment had concluded Supervisor Karen Mitchoff took a moment to respond.

“We do recognize that citizens are not happy, however, this was not done in secret,” Mitchoff said.

According to Mitchoff, there is no money budgeted for the library in the upcoming fiscal year. With regard to timing, she said the county owns that real estate, and they plan to sell it to a developer at the best possible price while the market is at a high point.

She believes this will benefit not just the residents of Pleasant Hill, but stakeholders countywide.

Moreover, the library’s role as an after-school destination is not its primary purpose.

“I’m going to say something a little controversial here,” Mitchoff said. “The library is not a child care center.”

Mitchoff invited concerned members of the public to contact her staff and schedule a meeting, but Offerman called that “lip service,” saying that he had attempted to do so without response.

Cellophane March 14, 2019 at 8:08 AM

So the County Sups eliminate fines and then close the library.

Why do voters keep reelecting for these people?

True Dat March 14, 2019 at 8:32 AM

Exactly

Concord resident March 14, 2019 at 12:18 PM

They’re not closing the whole library department, just one building in order to build the new building that Measure K funded…

CoCo Reader March 14, 2019 at 8:19 AM

This is unacceptable! The PH Library has the best collection of all of the county libraries in this area, and it is ALWAYS packed with people. The County Board of Supervisors should be ashamed for taking away this invaluable resource from the community!

Reason March 14, 2019 at 11:32 AM

We have a countywide library collection. The materials at PH don’t belong to PH; they are part of the entire County collection. You can search for materials in the entire collection from the Library website and reserve them. Then the materials will be dropped off for you to pick up at the library branch you choose.

Sign from Above March 14, 2019 at 8:36 AM

“The library is not a child care center.”

I’m sorry? So by encouraging adults to use the library would make staff adult care takers? Society has always encouraged children to spend time in the library. Come on Karen! Really? Would you rather have them roaming the streets getting into trouble. What a stupid political statement. This is just the latest example of how out of touch Karen is to the community and its needs! Again….What an idiotic statement!

Happy Squash March 14, 2019 at 11:47 AM

Well, how very Marie Antionette of her! This is a insensitive and uninformed comment by Karen Mitchoff, which once again shows that she is out of touch with her constituents. The library is not a child care center, that is true, but many kids do access the library after school, and this comment is very dismissive of them and their needs. I guess we think it’s better that they run around a shopping center than hang out with books? Maybe Karen could have sat down with some local families or schools to come up with an alternative plan for the kids who use the library while it is closed for at least 2 years? Would’ve been a nice gesture at least.
I didn’t vote for her, I think she’s too comfortable and out of touch with the people she represents.

Mr Right March 16, 2019 at 4:45 PM

Some of the kids in there are straight punks,sitting
On the computers and acting like thugs. While the
Kids trying to do their homework are S.O.L. until
Their parents finally show up at 5:30-6 If you
Have not been to the library lately be quiet. And it is
Not a couple, there are many.

Rob March 14, 2019 at 8:39 AM

Voters want to cut taxes, reduce spending but keep everything open…

That’s not how it works….

Frank March 14, 2019 at 10:51 AM

Not true, voters want to cut taxes and eliminate wasteful spending. Libraries are one of the few government activities that are doing what they are supposed to do and doing it well. Eliminating fines for overdue books was stupid however. Accountability seems to be something liberals can’t comprehend.

Michael March 14, 2019 at 8:41 AM

How brave of the supervisor into stand up to the malign activities of the communities children. the library is absolutely a “child care center” in the sense that it a safe place for young people to congregate and build community in a shared public space. What an unfortunately myopic view expressed by Mitchoff . The library staff met with Fair oaks parents as part of the design process and during that meeting they expressed their desire to be a place for young people and a focal point in their lives.

Jojo Potato March 14, 2019 at 8:45 AM

I had noticed in reading through the plans that the schedule calls for the library to be closed for a long time while the new one is built. This is really too bad. I guess Mitchoff doesn’t realize how much goes on in that building. I know that the kids programs pack the place. The interim plan is to use the Senior center as a place to pick up and drop off books etc. Not convenient at all. It could have been done so well. Build the new one while keeping the existing building open, move to the new building over a weekend. Have a grand opening party. Mitchoff’s attitude that citizens don’t matter is being displayed once again.

Lindsey March 14, 2019 at 8:45 AM

How is closing the library so the county can make a buck benefiting the residents?
How is selling to developers who are going to build overpriced apartments benefiting the residents?
The library is not a child care center and isn’t used as one. But if kids have a safe place they can stop in and do homework after school, shouldn’t we encourage them to use that space?
Someone needs to run against these people in the next election.

Reason March 14, 2019 at 11:43 AM

Oh, gee, I don’t know…maybe it benefits residents when the County “makes a buck” because there’s more revenue for services for residents.

cornfed March 19, 2019 at 12:10 AM

Oh gee, maybe we don’t want more revenue for “services”. Maybe we just want to retain what little is left of our small-town feel and enjoy the library that has served us well for 60 years instead of replacing it with a new honeycomb village.

Cowellian March 14, 2019 at 8:55 AM

This is very unfortunate, and short-sighted. When doing my Cowell research, I spent a lot of time in many libraries, but this branch has a lot of resources that just aren’t available anywhere else.

cornfed March 19, 2019 at 12:01 AM

My thoughts exactly.

Temporary library at senior center? March 14, 2019 at 8:56 AM

The Pleasant Hill newsletter states that there will be a temporary library at the Pleasant Hill Senior Center during construction. I hope that is true!
https://www.ci.pleasant-hill.ca.us/ArchiveCenter/ViewFile/Item/2931

Concord resident March 14, 2019 at 12:28 PM

Yes I think staff said they are going to open it later this year, and you can still access the whole County collection by placing holds on their website, same as always.

prairiegirl March 14, 2019 at 8:58 AM

Haven’t I heard recently that sales of e-books are going down and the sale of paper books is going up? The library has been one of my favorite places since I was very young, and our younger generation needs BOOKS, real books! Even the libraries that remain open seem to be getting rid of so many books in favor of so-called “reading rooms” and “meeting rooms” for organizations, some that I would not want to be associated with and don’t want my tax money paying for. This really makes me angry and sad.

Reason March 14, 2019 at 1:15 PM

Do you use the Contra Costa County Library? Your comment suggest that you do not because, if you did, you would know that the CoCo County Library has as many paper books as ever.

prairiegirl March 14, 2019 at 8:59 AM

By the way, if the new library will have 70,000 items, is that up or down from the current collection?

BookGirl March 14, 2019 at 2:13 PM

The 70k is down just a little from what the PH library has had, but please keep in mind that much of the current collection is unused material that has been more or less ‘stored’ there from the time it was the Central library. The actual number of books available to the public won’t really change noticeably, I think.

Regi March 14, 2019 at 9:03 AM

I was at the supervisors meeting although I was there for a different purpose I also did not like the way the public was Okie doked and mistreated. The Sup made it seem as though the multitude of junior high students that utilize the services of the library were being bombarded onto the staff, and left there as if it was a child care center for them. and the reason why I was there was because I wanted to address the fraudulent stipulations on the recall petition and my group and me were also okey-doke. And ignored. So they were not alone

Sign from Above March 14, 2019 at 3:00 PM

She’s just a nasty arrogant person that believes it’s her way or no way. She’s shown that over and over. Do we remember the whole car/gas issue where Micholoff and Piepho were trying to scam even more out of the residents to pay for benefits they were already getting? Residents across the board were irate at them for this. However, they still voted her in for reelection. Amazing!

Adam March 14, 2019 at 9:06 AM

Cellophane – late fees account for less than 2% of the budget of the library. The library system makes such a small amount on those fees that it just doesn’t make sense to keep them.

Giddyup March 14, 2019 at 1:58 PM

It’s not the money the fines provided, it’s the principle of the thing.

RANDOM TASK March 14, 2019 at 9:18 AM

Well for the laymen
She makes more for building a new building and appeasing the unions
She cares not for children and despised anyone who does question about the children
Also she does not like being questioned since she gets judges pay she requires a judges demeanor and judges respect
She also destains children using county facilities to be safe
Also you voted for her and her disgust for the lowly peons and praise of union money
No one to blame but dem voters who do as they are told and vote for incumbents
Just like de slacker last election dems did not want to vote among her way because they were being told he is the best of the worst same as weiner
They use these lackeys to front frivolous bills and incite the voters
Works very well as we will be with these jesters for years to come

Jmohr74 March 14, 2019 at 1:28 PM

Im a Democrat and I didnt vote for her, so keep your generalizations to yourself.

Fred March 14, 2019 at 9:29 AM

Concord library is nice, but Pleasant Hill has a lot more books.

Luvmycats March 14, 2019 at 9:31 AM

So they close the library & sell the land. Where on earth is the new library going???

Kelly March 14, 2019 at 9:54 AM

In the empty lot across the street.

Zz March 14, 2019 at 9:53 AM

” No money budgeted for the library”? Where the h*** is the ##”#* money going!!!???

Justifiable anger March 14, 2019 at 9:59 AM

If you haven’t figured it out yet…

ZZ March 14, 2019 at 10:45 AM

Hmmmmmmm, let me think…lol

JazzMan March 14, 2019 at 10:03 AM

I may have missed it somewhere, but where will the new library be located? They’re selling the existing property for whatever use, and closing the library, so it won’t be there. So…

Concord resident March 14, 2019 at 12:31 PM

It’s on the City website, they’re calling it the Oak Park Project.. it’s going to go across the street, along with newly developed parks and the street is getting re-developed too.

http://www.ci.pleasant-hill.ca.us/1226/Library-Project

Anon March 14, 2019 at 10:16 AM

“Stakeholders”??? So are the Taxpayers going to receive a credit on their property taxes…

Mary Fouts March 14, 2019 at 10:59 AM

Mitchoff’s smug, rude interaction with the public is unfortunately nothing new. I’m surprised she hasn’t offered a proclamation changing her title from Supervisor to Her Royal Highness.

Rex Hotchkiss March 14, 2019 at 11:11 AM

Fire the sobs. Anyone who wants to close down libraries for 2 years and makes nasty comments about the library’s role for young people does not belong in public service period.

Cowellian March 14, 2019 at 11:29 AM

Now, there’s an idea! If only there was a way to fire County Supervisors, . . .

Jojo Potato March 14, 2019 at 3:44 PM

The sad part is that she was just reelected.

Sign from Above March 15, 2019 at 7:19 AM

And….judging from history……half the people that are screaming at her right now will probably vote for her reelection. SAD.

collegecollage March 15, 2019 at 9:59 PM

Kids do not want to be at the library. They are told to go there after school until their parents can pick them up. They do not open books, or study. They are rude, noisy, disrespectful, monopolize the computers, playing video games. There isn’t this wholesome relationship where it’s quiet and kids noses are in books. The after school kids that visit the branches are the worst because they are at that junior high age where being an asshole is “cool.” Families with two working parents use the libraries as free childcare. Because it’s seen by the parents as a “safe after-school spot.” But the library staff are not their babysitters, so these kids run rampant through the library. They have no adult supervision, so they are jerks to everyone at the library with no repercussions.

Natalie March 14, 2019 at 11:32 AM

Mitchoff sounds like a villain from a Disney film or something. I hope people don’t take this sitting down. There’s enough time between now and summer to stop the closure.

There is no reason to immediately sell the land the current library is on. It’s not like the real estate market is going to crash in the next 2 years. The county can wait until the new library is built before closing the old one.

concord ygnacio March 14, 2019 at 1:07 PM

There is a reason: the new housing development can’t start until the old library is demolished.

Forsythe March 14, 2019 at 12:01 PM

To (maybe) persuade the county to keep the library open for two years, someone would need to estimate the costs and then try to find the money somewhere.

Possible costs:
–Library staff salaries for two years
–Maintenance costs
–Insurance costs
–And, the cost of not selling the existing library land for two years. However, it’s likely that the land value would increase. Perhaps a delay in selling the land would create a potential increased value?

Consider hidden costs to Pleasant Hill. For example, two years of library traffic at the Senior Center would be very disruptive, and costly (but maybe more so to city and not the county).

Note that the State of California and our Counties keeps trying to cost shift to our local cities.

concord ygnacio March 14, 2019 at 2:14 PM

There’s also the cost of the developer not being able to build houses there for two years. The company might withdraw from the deal then,

RJ March 14, 2019 at 1:08 PM

Am I the only one that is going to be sad when they demolish the old library? Seems like everything old around here is disappearing and being replaced with new buildings that look the same. Always loved going to that library when I was young and had to do research for book reports, etc (before the internet)

concord ygnacio March 14, 2019 at 1:10 PM

Not sure why people are complaining so much. They can simply use a neighboring library, as the library recommends. The old library is outdated and has very little space for you to plug in a laptop. I am glad it is going.

And, and by the way, Mitchoff is right: the library is not a day care center. There have been many complaints about children running around and making noise uncontrollably at this library.

Giddyup March 14, 2019 at 2:29 PM

Thank you. I agree. I sometimes feel bad for the librarians. Child care and policing are not part of their job description.

Me March 14, 2019 at 3:22 PM

My elderly mother doesn’t drive and walks to the library twice a week. This is one of her few outings, taking this away is going to be horrible. Mitchoff is not right, children should be encouraged to use the library. They are only there for like an hour after school, so even the most intolerant should be able to find a way around it. It’s clear you are not aware of all the facets of the library and the citizens who use it.

Giddyup March 14, 2019 at 2:20 PM

Two places you used to be able to count on being quiet we’re libraries and hospitals. It was such a strict admonition that there were signs posted on the street outside the hospital saying, “Entering Hospital Zone, Quiet Please.” It was thought that people who were ill needed quiet in order to recover. And, libraries had at the door a picture of a woman holding her finger to her lips and the word “SHHH” printed below it. Libraries were quiet places where people came to study.

Recently, I was in the small library on Oak Grove Road in Walnut Creek and a small child there was screaming at the top of its lungs. The child was accompanied by the parents who were doing nothing whatsoever about it. I can only imagine what a library these days is like when school gets out, and children wait there unsupervised until they are picked up by parents on their way home from work. The keyword here is “unsupervised.”

Fyi March 14, 2019 at 2:33 PM

If that library is so bad, what would you say about Concord? Need new Concord before PHill!

Karen Mitchoff March 14, 2019 at 2:40 PM

Please see the below joint statement from the City of Pleasant Hill, the Pleasant Hill Recreation & Park District, and the County.

Additionally, I’d like to comment on some of the concerns.

We are all county taxpayers, and the land the current PH library sits on is a county asset. By selling it to a developer, the county will receive revenue which supports programs that all county residents benefit from. It is my fiduciary responsibility to balance the short-term pain of the library closing for the long-term gain of all county residents.

When I made the “child care” comment, I knew it would be controversial. That is why I said it. Approximately 100 students use the current library after school, which is more than appropriate. However, in the end, it is the parents’ responsibility for their child’s welfare after school. There are many middle and high schools that do not have this resource, and those parents are responsible for the care of their children after school.

Additionally, several years ago, PH residents passed a bond which supported the building of a Teen Center to provide programs after school. We are fortunate to have this resource in our community, and the approximately 100 students from PH Middle School who will be displaced during the construction of the new library have this Teen Center available to them. I believe a majority of both PH and county residents/taxpayers agree with my position that during construction, parents need to find an alternate resource for the care of their children.

Why is the current library closing before the new library is open?

The current library is closing so the property can be prepared for the future housing development that is one element of the overall Oak Park Properties project.
The plan was always to start construction activities for the new library and houses as soon as possible.
Originally, the houses were going to be built on five acres behind the library, and the sports fields/park were going to be built on the site of the existing library at a later point in time.
On further analysis, the project partners realized that the better configuration was to flip the sports fields/park with the homes, thus building the new neighborhood on the parcel where the current library sits.

Having the library and the sports fields next to each other:
• Creates a single civic space for the public to enjoy
• Allows additional preservation of the riparian habitat along the creek
• Provides the opportunity for shared parking

All three project partners (the City, County and Recreation & Park District) are sharing the cost of transforming Monticello Avenue from a narrow private road into a tree-lined boulevard that will better serve the nearby middle school, the new library and sports fields, and the entire community.
In addition, the County is donating the new library site at no cost to the City, and plans to provide an opening day collection worth $1 million (by comparison, the cost of opening day collections at recent new libraries has been about $500,000).

Here is the website link to FAQ’s regarding the entire project:
http://www.ci.pleasant-hill.ca.us/DocumentCenter/View/17957/Oak-Park-Properties-FAQS—March-2019

Mary Fouts March 14, 2019 at 8:46 PM

“When I made the “child care” comment, I knew it would be controversial. That is why I said it.”

The above statement begs the question you opened the door to, yet did not conveniently, for your benefit, answer. That is: If you know “it” would be controversial, than why did you say “it”? Why are you trying to be controversial? Perhaps you believe that all attention, bad or not, is beneficial for your political career? Since you have posted here, Ms. Mitchoff, readers (and your constituents) deserve an answer.

“Approximately 100 students use the current library after school, which is more than appropriate.”

More than appropriate? Geesh, how many students using the library would be, in your words, “appropriate”? 10? 78? Your comments infer that the 100 students should not be at the library. Can’t they study, and otherwise, stay there, too? If not, you Stupidvisors (yep, the spelling is correct) had better do something about the homeless people that “use”, in your own words, the county libraries. Are you going to take measures to kick them out, too?

I bet no. Our children, who are our future, are a much easier target for you. The homeless adults who are mentally ill and drug addicted, not so much.

Sign from Above March 15, 2019 at 7:28 AM

Nicely said Mary. Why you would make such a stupid statement, Karen, is beyond me. It just goes to show all who you really are!

collegecollage March 15, 2019 at 10:22 PM

The only one who benefits from the library closing before the new library is built is the DEVELOPER. As stated by you, the old library will be demolished before the new library is open so that new “housing” can be built before the new library. The only one that benefits from this is the DEVELOPER. How does this have the best interest of the taxpayers by closing down one of the largest and busiest libraries in the county, before the new one is built?! This displaces patrons, employees, and the children using the library as free childcare. People’s lives will be completely uprooted for 2+ years so that THE HOUSING DEVELOPER CAN MAKE MONEY FIRST. Again the only one benefiting from this decision is the DEVELOPER. Since you were re-elected to your position, people expected you to keep the best interest of the people when making decisions. In this decision the people of your community will be displaced, uprooted and inconvenienced, so that the developer can make money!!! Who allowed this decision to pass????

THE DEVELOPER IS THE ONLY ONE BENEFITING FROM THIS ARRANGEMENT. How do developers get deals that benefit themselves while simultaneously screwing over the people ? They must get permission from the elected representation. How do they get permission from such people? They pay politicians off. So…. HOW MUCH WERE YOU PAYED OFF BY THE DEVELOPER TO SCREW OVER THE COMMUNITY????

Temporary library at senior center? March 14, 2019 at 2:52 PM
Anonymous March 14, 2019 at 3:22 PM

We see people very offended by Mitchoff . She simply told the truth.

I quit going to the library when all the kids , whose parents were perfectly happy to have them there, became disruptive and noisy. Certainly not all of them but enough to cause me to depart.

I’m glad to see a Supervisor tell it like it is.

Fitzwilliam@Comcast.net March 14, 2019 at 4:36 PM

The recall of Mitchoff didn’t work few years ago, maybe it will now. She has DESTROYED the PH Bart area by pushing six story buildings where the zoning has a four story limit (take a look at the monstrosity they are building next to Bart) plus it was supposed to be for sale condos vs more apartments but money talks. She has voted against the original plans for the PH Transit Village which were approved by the residents, Bart and County years ago every chance she gets. She coasted to re-election because she had no real competition. She needs to go. She can’t wait to build on the library land, and I feel sorry for the people in that neighborhood because when she’s done, you’ll be crawling thru traffic the same way it crawls on the streets near PH Bart in the morning.

Ken March 14, 2019 at 7:56 PM

Do you want to go to the Concord library where they need a security guard and have bums sleeping outside and congregating inside wasting every civilized man, woman, and child’s welfare!

collegecollage March 14, 2019 at 8:52 PM

” safe after-school spot” You mean free child care for generations. Junior high kids are the worst. I’m really tired of the bratty children that monopolize the library everyday after school. The library is for tax payers. Children are not taxpayers. Then need to have more respect for the library and its patrons.

Kentucky Derby March 14, 2019 at 8:54 PM

The PH Library is extremely noisy. They have a lot of kids programs. Libraries used to be quiet places to read or study.

Anonymous March 14, 2019 at 9:31 PM

For the record: I am often at the Pleasant Hill Library during the hours when the middle schoolers are there and can testify that the behavior, foul language and general unpleasant attitudes displayed by large groups of these preteens daily makes it very difficult to spend quality time at the library. Its proximity to the middle school is what accounts for these large numbers of kids literally taking most available spaces and when they are told to leave because they have become unmanageable they stand outside, yell obscenities, and engage in all sorts of horseplay without supervision. It is an issue that really needs to be solved. These kids are not there to do serious homework or “use” the library services, except to tie up all computers playing video games loudly.

Mary Fouts March 14, 2019 at 10:34 PM

Well, if that is the case, things will not be better with the new library. It will be ‘across the road’ from the present library. Any current issues will once again present themselves in the new library. As in, history repeats for those who ignore history.

DVC Student March 14, 2019 at 10:34 PM

Pleasant Hill Library always smelled like dust when I went there as a kid.

Pat March 14, 2019 at 10:41 PM

I second the fact that many middle school kids are pains in the butt. Go hang out at the library and see for yourself if you’re so set on allowing them to hang out and yes, be babysat. The majority are not there to study. Don’t comment about it being ok for them to hang out unless you’ve actually experienced it! You’ll agree they need to go raise hell at their own homes instead.

Beanzy March 15, 2019 at 4:36 AM

Lol.

I can tell by reading the comments that most of the negative commenters have not been to the Pleasant Hill Public Library in a while, if not ever. To tell the truth, I now avoid the PH library for the reasons below:

* The PH library is decrepit. During the rainy season the roof leaks in the middle section, which gets roped off during library hours.

* The middle schoolers really are bratty. In the so-called computer room and everywhere else in the one-story library, the kids monopolize the computers to play games, talk loudly, and horseplay with each other. So not at all a conducive place for adults to use the computers in meaningful ways.

* The restrooms are tiny and cramped, with two stalls only for the public in the women’s section. As the main library for the County, the PH library needs as many restrooms as the Oakland Coliseum has (okay, indulging in hyperbole here).

* This library is cramped for space, allows for shelf space to go unused, and is just as ugly and poorly designed as the Concord library. As the main CoCo County Public Library, it ought to be the largest and most up-to-date of all the County libraries. But it is not. County residents ought to check out the Walnut Creek, Lafayette and Orinda libraries to see how modern libraries are and the Pleasant Hill library could be but on a much bigger scale.

* Project Section Chance, the County’s literacy program for adults, uses a portion of the library space at Pleasant Hill. Its offices are cramped and its study rooms are crammed with castoff chairs from the library’s administrative section.

* Because the PH library also houses the County library’s administrative staff, it requires better designed offices and a working HVAC system that benefits the entire library.

RegularBARTRider March 15, 2019 at 6:25 AM

The Ygnacio Valley library is also overrun by middle schoolers in the afternoon. It is absolutely used as free afterschool care for them. The Creek, Foothill’s after school program, is pretty expensive. Much cheaper to just tell your kid to walk to the library and pick them up from there later.

Me March 15, 2019 at 10:03 AM

The contempt for the middle schoolers is ridiculous. They have every right to be there. Yes they are louder than adults. They are children and they are only there for about an hour and at least they are safe and they might even get some homework done or pick up a resource they need for to finish their homework later. There are at least 7 other hours in the day that the kids aren’t there. Have a little compassion.

Anonymous March 15, 2019 at 3:25 PM

@Me: People have a right to be in public places when they are not acting like animals, being extremely rude to others, etc. When the middle schoolers are asked politely to lower their voices, they respond with obscenities, the librarian has to be called to deal with them and they are asked to leave. Then they continue screaming outside. This happens daily. If you think this is acceptable behavior in our libraries, you are definitely part of the problem. They need supervision which the librarians should not be required to give. If you think they are doing homework and picking out resources, you are living in a dream. And they are there much longer than an hour, fyi…

ZZ March 15, 2019 at 9:37 AM

Today’s kids are obnoxious, loud, uncouth, out of control, irresponsible, and mouthy. Be it at a library or anywhere else in society. Hasn’t anyone noticed?

Elisa Marie March 15, 2019 at 11:38 PM

I used to volunteer at the Lafayette library and the attached, outdoor cafe was really brilliant. Instead of jeopardizing the entire library, most of the kids just congregated there instead because all they really wanted was a place to hang out. The cafe even offered specific menu items geared toward the kids. A win-win for all.

Elisa March 15, 2019 at 11:39 PM

I used to volunteer at the Lafayette library and the attached, outdoor cafe was really brilliant. Instead of jeopardizing the entire library, most of the kids just congregated there instead because all they really wanted was a place to hang out. The cafe even offered specific menu items geared toward the kids. A win-win for all.

chris March 16, 2019 at 7:57 AM

My wife told me that if the library was defunded prior to citizen input regarding it’s closure, that is grounds to sue and stop the project as it was a predetermined decision. Ought to be a lot of lawyers out there to look into this and take up the cause…

Karen Mitchoiff March 16, 2019 at 9:52 AM

Mary Fouts, my apologies for the ambiguity in my comment “which is more than appropriate.” I can see how it could be interpreted that I’m saying 100 students is more than appropriate to use the library, but what I actually meant was that it is more than appropriate for any # of students to use the library. My phrasing was poorly worded. My point was that while the library is available, it is more than appropriate for anyone to use it but that while it is closed, the 100 students (out of an 850 student body) would need to find other resources for the period of time the library was closed down.

Dick Offerman March 17, 2019 at 7:37 AM

WHERE DID MY POST GO? It was on the Claycord yesterday! It asked why Mitchoff and the PH City Council have kept this destruction of our library under wraps? They knew in November they wanted to tear it down in June and here we are in mid March just hearing about it. Please go to Monday’s PH City Council mtg at 7 PM and tell them to leave our existing library alone for 2 years!

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