Claycord – Talk About Politics

January 18, 2019 19:05 pm · 96 comments


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wave January 18, 2019 at 7:09 PM

Trump is still causing a mess with his shutdown of the government,,,,let’s see what he has to say tomorrow at noon PST tomorrow…..

Bob January 18, 2019 at 11:27 PM

$20 Monopoly money says he’s calling a “State of Emergency” and bringing in the military to build the wall.

Ricardoh January 18, 2019 at 8:09 PM

The left wing media got knocked off of their horse today. All day they talked of the impending doom of the president for telling his lawyer to lie to congress. Turns out Mueller’s committee says that is fake news. A new fake news story that the president is going to impeached everyday. You would think the perps would get embarrassed and stop but they keep going.Shows you how swift they are.

mtzman January 18, 2019 at 11:37 PM

Not true at all. The statement said certain aspects and characterizations of the evidence were not accurate but did not say the overall premise was false. At this point it is not clear just what is going on. Keep in mind that much of the case involving Cohen was prosecuted by the US Attorney for the SDNY and not by Mueller’s office, Stay tuned and no one should jump to conclusions just yet.

Justifiable anger January 19, 2019 at 8:47 AM

It is fair to say, the major news outlets have been running their stories using the same tactics as The National Enquirer et al. The coverge has been the epitome of a dog and pony show, wearing out a vast audience.

Ricardoh January 19, 2019 at 10:10 AM

Who was jumping to conclusions all day yesterday? The haters is who.

Jim R January 20, 2019 at 11:15 AM

Ricardoh, using your rational, I guess we can say that all of the other stories that Mueller didn’t contradict arer true?

mtzman January 20, 2019 at 1:41 PM

Ricardoh, sounds like you’re the one jumping to conclusions ,,,

Noj January 18, 2019 at 9:09 PM

The government shutdown has had zero effet on me and my family.

Trump should lock the government down, sell the furniture and hire back 1/10 of the current employees.

Also, BuzzFeed’s fake story about Michael Cohen has been proven a lie by none other than Mueller himself.

Lies. Fake news stories. None of this will stop our president.

Yes, let’s see what rabbit he pulls out of his hat tomorrow. I hear it’s a DACA deal tied to the Border Wall.

Out here in the real world, we love us some Trump…big time.

Ready? Aye ready.

Anonymous January 19, 2019 at 7:28 AM

Trump missed a golden opportunity with Pelosi. Let me tell you what he should have done .

Pelosi and several other Dems were going to fly to Brussels , Afghanistan etc. Trump cancelled their military flight.

He should have let her go and then put up Missing posters, taken the media to her empty office and called out “I’m here to negotiate” , and made a big deal out of her absence . He could have erected a huge clock that illustrates how long Pelosi had been out of the country .

Regardless of people’s opinions about who is to blame , folks would be irritated that Pelosi quit the field of battle. Would have been a winning talking point for Trump. Easy to understand.

But … oh never mind .

Giddyup January 19, 2019 at 8:08 PM

Diabolical! You need to be on Trumps team.

Jim R January 20, 2019 at 11:18 AM

So the president stops the military flight (his right), but then allows information on their potential commercial travel plans? And just to add to this petulance…FLOTUS used military transport to fly to FL for vacation the next day.

Fred P. January 21, 2019 at 3:24 PM

And exactly what is the problem with Flotus flying? She wasn’t being paid….. unlike those idiot Ass politicians and their families and lobbyists who met off somewhere to “ thiank the troops.”

Buncha damn liars and opportunists.

Fred P. January 23, 2019 at 6:28 PM

We’re waiting, jimmy.

Flotus doesn’t work for the government, so she isn’t getting paid….unlike the idiot politicians that do “work” for the shutdown government- but aren’t working and STILL getting paid.

Btw, remember that Trump is turning down his pay. Can’t say that for the idiot politicians.

Try again, cupcake.

Jim R January 23, 2019 at 10:35 PM

The legislators trip, whether you support it or not, was legitimate government business that both parties support. The FLOTUS flight was to go on vacation.

And again Fred, you are incorrect. The president could turn down his pay, or take a dollar a year, but he doesn’t. He takes it and donates it. We won’t know how much he is ‘making’ as president until we see his tax returns.

Always Right January 19, 2019 at 8:57 AM

The women’s March today in Walnut Creek claims to be non-partisan.


Their main speakers are all left-wing “progressives” including a representative of that vile organization Planned Parenthood.

So if killing unborn babies, confusing children about their gender, and advocating the Marxist/Socialist agenda is what moves you to march. Have fun.

Captain Bebops January 19, 2019 at 12:57 PM

I’m curious, how do you define the Marxist/Socialist agenda? 😀

grandmato3 January 19, 2019 at 2:13 PM

Always Right, So you think PP only does abortions? What about well woman exams, mammograms, health screenings, birth control? Oh, I get it, you don’t want to know about the other things they do right?

S January 19, 2019 at 2:27 PM

Great comment/question Capt. Socialism is how Communism starts…. Marx was a shrewd game player…

Always Right January 19, 2019 at 2:41 PM

@Captain B.-

The Marxist Socialist agenda include policies which aid in the incremental conversion of the American economic system from primarily capitalist to fully socialist, those policies which diminish American economic power or influence relative to other (more socialist ) nations, and those policies which diminish the influence of religious faith, especially Christianity.

In other words, the democrat party platform.

Liar! Liar! January 19, 2019 at 3:37 PM

Planned Parenthood is still in the Eugenics business, and they don’t bother doing mammograms.

Captain Bebops January 19, 2019 at 4:12 PM

@Always Right, you’re imagining things. The Democratic Party is hardly Marxist and not very socialist either. If they’re supposed to be converting the “capitalistic system” to a “fully socialist system” they are doing a poor job of it. These days the Democratic Party is very capitalist.

According to your definition Trump is a Marxist/Socialist because he is diminishing American economic power through his trade policies. You might want to brush up on your political science.

BTW, there has never been a Communist country. Even the Soviet Union was running state capitalism. That’s okay, many folks have things confused. 😀

Always Right January 20, 2019 at 9:56 AM

Captain B. – the key word in my explanation of our downward spiral toward Marxism/socialism is “incremental”.

The Democrat party over the last 20 years has incrementally advanced policies which advance the Marxist/socialist agenda.

Examples are abundant. BLM, Occupy, Obamacare (an incremental step toward socialized medicine), Attacks against the traditional family and the traditional definition of marriage, promotion of radical environmentalism (earth worship). Full government control of schools, and let’s not forget the most recent Democrat party platform, for the first time ever, completely eliminated all references to God.

I know so many good, caring people who remain registered Democrats because they still (mistakenly) think the Democrat party still represents the party of John Kennedy and Martin Luther King. The Party of hard working, patriotic people. No more.

The power behind the New Democrat party consists of far-left progressives taught in universities by Marxists and Sociialists. They preach “intersectionality” which is Marxism101.

Jim R January 21, 2019 at 12:58 PM

Always right…not this time. Definition of intersectionality…the interconnected nature of social categorizations such as race, class, and gender as they apply to a given individual or group, regarded as creating overlapping and interdependent systems of discrimination or disadvantage.

In America today (and throughout our history), whites have held power over people of color, rich over poor, and males over females. Balancing power dynamics is just, not Marxist.

Rollo Tomasi January 22, 2019 at 8:27 AM

“In America today (and throughout our history), whites have held power over people of color, rich over poor, and males over females”

Based on nothing more than skin color and gender, right? Attempts to artificially “balance power” based on nothing more than immutable physical characteristics is neither just nor wise. Good ideas and policies, as well as bad, should be judged solely on their merit rather than the skin color of the source, or what is found between the source’s legs.

Jim R January 23, 2019 at 10:44 PM

Rollo, your response could come from someone that has experienced the ages of benefits that come from being a part of the dominant power dynamic. You don’t have to be white, male and ‘not poor’ in America to be successful, but it sure helps.

If all things were equal I’d agree that choosing based on attributes is neither just nor wise. Since it isn’t equal, I’d suggest that continuing to practice the current choices is even less just or wise.

Bill Cutting January 19, 2019 at 10:24 AM

Feminism equals female communism and anti family which is major evil

Forsythe January 22, 2019 at 6:46 AM

@Jim R,

You are right, “balancing power dynamics” is not, in and of itself, Marxist, you are right. All political entities throughout history have always engaged in “balancing power dynamics”.

Here’s the problem: the Democrats are using class warfare as a weapon against the middle class.

Which is why Hillary lost. Her “deplorables” remark was a means of justifying her “moral superiority”, and that of the ruling class Democrat elites.

Only problem??? We, the voting deplorables, rebelled by electing President Trump.

Look no further than Nancy Pelosi. When President Trump cancelled her overseas junket last week, he spotlighted her callous disregard for the middle federal class workers workers. (They are missing paychecks, while Congress not only gets paid, they party in Hawaii, Puerto Rico, and Brussels).

A write-up in says it best:

“It’s a pattern repeated throughout history: Members of one group—say, the British aristocracy, dominate members of another group—the peasantry. In the minds of the elites, the advantages they experience must be the result of their innate superiority; they are more moral, more sophisticated, more intelligent than the lower classes. They’re just better.

The power behind the New Democrat party consists of far-left progressives taught in universities by Marxists and Socialists. They preach “intersectionality” which is Marxism101.

For them, that means the 2016 election must be nullified, by any means necessary.

America’s privileged elites refuse to accept Trump as president. They support any effort, no matter how absurd, to bring him down.”

The Democrats were the party of the Confederacy and slavery. Not much has changed. The shutdown is simply another example of Democrat insurgency and sedition.

What you’re seeing now, played out every night on the news, is class warfare.

Ricardoh January 19, 2019 at 11:13 AM

Another I am a victim march. I am waiting for the “we all are victims” before I hit the streets.

Robles January 19, 2019 at 9:15 PM

Yeah, the march will be called ‘The We Didn’t Get The Southern Border Wall March’.

Nunya January 19, 2019 at 12:45 PM

just did a quick review of my fed taxes, getting money back, that never happened when the dems ran things.

Thank you President Trump!


mtzman January 19, 2019 at 2:22 PM

You might want to reconsider hashtags there, buddy. How much money you get back has nothing to do with how much you pay in taxes, but is a function of how much you pay versus how much was withheld. If you’re getting money back then you LOST the use of, or the interest you could have earned by keeping your money.

Nunya January 19, 2019 at 3:35 PM

fair point, but I am keeping the hashtag. as soon as he gets the border wall done which both parties have talked about doing for years, well when he gets it done that will make America great (again)!

why? sick of wondering if the person next to me, hit my car, can even speak English. sick of seeing news about murders and gangs committed by illegal aliens and MS-13, tired of hearing how our tax dollars need to pay for their children to get an education here because they pooped here, enough is enough!

Dr. Jellyfinger January 19, 2019 at 6:02 PM

If you made the same amount of money each year and did not change your exemptions or deductions…… and then got more back than usual… well, I’m sure mtzman can figure out some way that Trump had nothing to do with it.

Jim R January 20, 2019 at 11:24 AM

Hey Nunya, please tell me how this makes America great. Last year the American economy experienced about 3% growth. Much of that was due to the tax cuts passed by Republicans. Unfortunately, corporations didn’t invest their saving in America, they bought back over $100 million of their own stock.

Last time the economy grew at 3% for a year, national tax receipts grew 7%. This time? National tax receipts are down. #AISS (Ameica is so screwed)

mtzman January 20, 2019 at 1:38 PM

I believe people were advised to adjust their withholding because of the changes in tax laws, but he’s still losing money regardless, not to mention the poor guy not getting any pay increases. How was that, Dr. J?

Not a Trump Fan January 20, 2019 at 1:43 PM

Congratulations to you but those of us who have a mortgage, pay property taxes, don’t have dependents, pay state taxes are completely screwed by the so-called “tax cuts”. Because of all the itemization items taken away or capped, the doubling of the standard deduction doesn’t even come close to what I itemized in previous years so my fixed income middle class taxes are going up up up. The only thing Trumps’ tax cuts did was increase the deficit and make rich people richer. Those of us old enough that lived through previous “trickle down” tax cuts remember that they didn’t work then and are not working for most of us now. I thought Ford, Carter and Bush were bad presidents but Trump is by far the worst in my lifetime.

Dr. Jellyfinger January 21, 2019 at 9:18 AM

That was the 1040 EZ answer….

Personally I adjust mine to OWE the government money each year… let them wait for it.

JWB January 19, 2019 at 5:42 PM

I see Nunya you prefer MAGA students harassing native American Vietnam vets?

Forsythe January 20, 2019 at 6:32 AM

As happens too often these days, the media got it wrong. Numerous videos show the students being approached by American activists who were at the Lincoln Memorial for an Indigenous Peoples Rally that had ended earlier.

Videos also show the students being harassed by a group of African-Americans who hurled racist and anti-gay insults at the students.

Source: Gateway Pundit:

Covington Catholic Student Begs Local TV News to Tell the Truth About Native American Incident In DC

Always Right January 20, 2019 at 10:02 AM

@JWB – you got snookered by more left wing fake news.

Plenty of video now shows these Native American activists, with media cameras behind them, approaching these young people in an effort to taunt them and provoke them.

Just another effort to attack and deride conservatives in general, and white male conservatives in particular.

Fred P. January 21, 2019 at 8:15 AM

Jwb, watch the whole video….not just the cuts aired by the liberal media.

Appears that libs still just take portionsof the story that support their own opinions.

So much for critical thinking.

Giddyu[ January 21, 2019 at 11:11 AM

And, from JWB … crickets.

HappyPappy January 21, 2019 at 1:46 PM

Are you people claiming JWB is a fool?….is easily fooled?……is a leftist fool?……..prone to behaving foolishly?
……… many choices…………
‘sokay JWB, the constitution gives you the right!

Rollo Tomasi January 22, 2019 at 11:56 AM

JWB, your conclusion regarding the events in the video are either negligent or malicious. You can choose which.

JWB January 22, 2019 at 12:19 PM

Nope this is priceless ….. Everyday we can see post after post from your favorite fake right wing propaganda sites. Nobody ever demands to see context. Of course things are never black and white, but all of a sudden, as true hypocrites ,when you’re on the receiving end of a story you no longer want to only see the portion that supports your view of things…..

Rollo Tomasi January 22, 2019 at 4:19 PM

So are you claiming you didn’t draw the wrong conclusion based on a video that intentionally portrayed only a part of the “confrontation”?

mtzman January 23, 2019 at 9:58 AM

Finally got a chance to look at the videos and it sure seems JWB is not the one who got snookered. From every angle I could see, the kid was doing anything but trying to calm the situation down, and with a smirk like that, he’s probably lucky his parents weren’t there to wipe it off, although bringing in a Republican PR firm to create a new narrative certainly helped.

I’m not saying the kids had no constitutional right to be there, but what in the world was the school administration thinking for dressing up a group of rowdy teenage boys in Trump shirts and MAGA hats and sending them essentially unsupervised into a situation like that?

Giddyup January 23, 2019 at 1:47 PM

@mtzman That didn’t look like a smirk to me. It looked like a loving smile. If it looked like a smirk to you, maybe that says more about you than it does about the student. You saw a short clip and you jumped to conclusions about what was happening … just like a lot of mainstream media that reported on it before they had all the facts. Seems to be rampant these days.

mtzman January 24, 2019 at 11:12 AM

I am the father of five kids and a retired high school educator. Trust me, I know a smirk when I see one. If the kid was seriously trying to diffuse the situation, why didn’t he tell the guy what he was up to and converse with him so that they could both be clear on motives and coordinate efforts?

I am also familiar with Covington Catholic, which has long had a reputation for rowdy, intimidating behavior at sporting events. I saw the video from earlier in the day taunting sexual harassment. I also know they hired a Republican PR firm tied to Mitch McConnell to create a new narrative to counter the backlash, including the apology issued by the diocese (the same diocese already controversial for the valedictorian brouhaha last year) on behalf of the students.

So don’t tell me I jumped to conclusions. And I still can’t believe there were school admins who thought sending a rowdy group of teenagers wearing MAGA hats and Trump shirts into that event with little supervision was somehow a good idea.

HappyPappy January 24, 2019 at 12:14 PM

Wow ……that mtzguy really knows lots of stuff….mostly his opinion adamantly posted as facts. Good spelling though.

mtzman January 24, 2019 at 12:43 PM

Thanks for the compliment, Happy. I’ve always been pretty good at spelling.

Now, as for opinion/facts, anything I got wrong?

Not a Trump Fan January 20, 2019 at 2:20 PM

Those of you who are constantly complaining about the ACA and other aid programs should count their lucky stars and pray that they never need help. There are a lot of legal citizens who, through no fault of their own like myself who was born with Muscular Dystrophy and can’t work anymore, need assistance. For now, I’m fortunate that I have health care through a spouse but I know people who don’t and the ACA and other programs are their only option. It really disturbs me how un-empathetic many of you are especially Trump who is the worst and brings out the worst in those who support him.

Always Right January 20, 2019 at 6:51 PM

@Not a Trump Fan – sorry to hear about your heath challenge.

Please understand many of us believe ACA is not the best way to provide healthcare in America. That does not mean we have no compassion for people and are unwilling to provide basic health care to those truly in need.

Regarding Trump – I don’t like his schoolyard name calling either. I don’t like his failure to acknowledge the fact most illegal immigrants are decent people.
His past immoral indiscretions are an embarrassment.

I really do like his pro-life, pro-constitution court appointments. I like his determination to improve border security, his corporate tax cuts, and his defense of the first amendment is laudable. I cheer when he calls out the Fake News media.

Overall I am still glad I held my nose and voted for the Trumpster.

Forsythe January 21, 2019 at 7:12 AM

CNN, MSNBC, and others, bury scandals that make Democrats look bad, while eagerly pushing anti-Trump stories, without fact checking them first. In just one week, the left wing media jumped on two fake news stories that backfired.

1. BuzzFeed’s attempt to set up President Trump with false Russia allegations.
2. The Covington Catholic Incident.

Rollo Tomasi January 22, 2019 at 7:53 AM

Yet one CNN talking head opined that it’s not a reason to distrust the media – they just had a bad week.

Fred P. January 21, 2019 at 8:51 AM

From the Washington Times…

One of Justice Brett M. Kavanaugh’s accusers admitted this week that she made up her lurid tale of a backseat car rape, saying it “was a tactic” to try to derail the judge’s confirmation to the Supreme Court.

Sen. Charles E. Grassley, chairman of the Judiciary Committee revealed the fraud in a letter to the FBI and Justice Department Friday, asking them to prosecute Judy Munro-Leighton for lying to and obstructing Congress.

The libs LOVE to lie and LOVE supporting those who lie.

Never trust a democrat.

Justifiable anger January 21, 2019 at 11:06 AM

The tactics attempted to bring down DT, and subsequently Justice Kavanaugh are obvious.

You can fool all the people some of the time, and some of the people all the time, but you cannot fool all the people all the time.

The only people still supporting democrat tactics are fools or coup operatives.

Fred P. January 23, 2019 at 6:33 AM

It’s “strange” that you NEVER hear Feinstein or Harris taking Kavanaugh’s lying accusers to task.

“I believe her because she’s so ‘strong’ and believable’.”

Harris is an idiot. Next we’re gonna hear that she’s claiming the race card.

Randy January 21, 2019 at 2:10 PM

Look for the China trade tariffs to end soon

The Chinese government has granted Ivanka Trump’s company preliminary approval for another five trademarks this month, as her father’s administration pushes ahead on trade negotiations with China

Silva January 21, 2019 at 3:26 PM
Dr. Jellyfinger January 21, 2019 at 6:32 PM

Yeah….. Thanks Silva.

“Companies apply for trademarks for a range of reasons. They can be signs of corporate ambition, but many also are filed defensively, particularly in China, where trademark squatting is rampant”.

HappyPappy January 21, 2019 at 5:48 PM

President Trump made a reasonable compromise, he abandoned his idea of a wall-to-wall border, he stopped his claim that Mexico would pay for the wall.
He offered to embrace Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals, after previously rejecting it. But the Democrat Crooks have refused to compromise on even this. They are behaving like petulant adolescents. And the compromised leftist controlled media are choosing to ignore it all because they would otherwise have to point out the Democrats are now the ones prolonging the government shutdown by refusing to compromise.
Let’s hear from you nice left-wing lunatics in defense of your party leaders now.

Randy January 23, 2019 at 6:50 PM

Well that’s what happens when you don’t win the popular vote.


Jim R January 23, 2019 at 10:56 PM

Quick question Pappy…How is the president acknowledging that Mexico isn’t going to pay for the wall a compromise?

Quickest way to open is held up by Sen. McConnell (R).

HappyPappy January 24, 2019 at 12:07 PM

I expected randy but we have two admitted lunatics? Meh!

Jim R January 24, 2019 at 4:45 PM

Ok Pappy…Your not going to answer my question, let’s try another easy one. How is the president adding dramatic changes to asylum laws that were not a part of previous discussions a compromise?

The Senate missed a chance to the quickest route to open the government. Why did all those Republican senators vote no on a bill that they wrote and passed by voice vote only a month ago?

Dr. Jellyfinger January 22, 2019 at 9:15 AM

Only 12 years left…….. Time to break all the rules and live for today!
Sell the house sell the car & sell the kids…. I’m going to Las Vegas!

HappyPappy January 22, 2019 at 6:10 PM

When children get elected;
During an event honoring MLK Jr. on Monday, Rep Alexandria Crazy-Ocasio-Cortez (D., N.Y.) warned the audience that climate change would “destroy the planet” by the year 2031 if people don’t address a generational challenge she likened to “Word War II.”
Time to begin impeachment of this idiot.

Fred P. January 22, 2019 at 8:35 PM

Occasional-cortex is a certifiable idiot…. which speaks plenty about those who elected her.

She knows NOTHING – despite a “degree” in economics.

mtzman January 23, 2019 at 1:51 AM

Fred … you OBVIOUSLY have NO idea of the difference between fact and opinion.., and CERTAINLY making a claim that Ocasio-Cortez is a “certifiable idiot” displays your ignorance.

Also, please submit your CV or other proof that you are qualified to judge her knowledge of economics.

We’re waiting, hypocrite …

Fred P. January 23, 2019 at 9:20 AM

Well, well, well…. mtzman the hypocrite displays her/his/they/them/it’s true ignorance.

We’re still waiting for YOUR CV, which was requested WEEKS ago. Yet you have FAILED to provide it. Until you provide your CV, cupcake…. you’re just background noise.

Let’s start with one FACT – despite questioning about how to pay for her grandiose ideas, she has REFUSED and been otherwise UNABLE to provide a PLAN. If anyone had any knowledge of economics, they would have been able to discuss it intelligently.

You must have been one of those voting for someone who has an inability to string a complete sentence together without using “you know, like, whatever….” And to claim it’s “their World War 2????”

Now go cry in the corner, snowflake, and go play with your puppies and unicorns. Maybe you’ll “feel” better someday.

Jim R January 23, 2019 at 11:15 PM

Fred…capital letters and no actual point? Shocking. When you reread your posts does it make you happy? Do you think that you ‘owned the libs’?

Think again.

mtzman January 24, 2019 at 12:54 PM

CV or no CV, Fred you’ve always been backroom noise.

As for AOC’s plan, something you say doesn’t exist is sure getting a lot of play by economists and policy analysts at Davos — they generally don’t like it, of course == but is also being described as moderate by others.

Randy January 23, 2019 at 12:50 PM

One for trumps success column.

Staff found a way to fix trumps small hand problem. They alter his pics before posting to the internet.

Giddyup January 23, 2019 at 1:39 PM

Randy, you see to be obsessed with that issue since you’ve mentioned it any number of times. Might want to ask yourself why.

Randy January 23, 2019 at 3:45 PM

Republicans can’t answer this question,

why when they had control over all three branches didn’t they get their money for the wall?

Dr. Jellyfinger January 23, 2019 at 8:13 PM
Randy January 23, 2019 at 9:31 PM

The answer is they were fools

Dr. Jellyfinger January 24, 2019 at 5:38 PM

Why didn’t Obama pass immigration reform in his first two years?

Silva January 23, 2019 at 6:38 PM

Millions of Americans Flood Into Mexico for Health Care – the Human Caravan You Haven’t Heard About

Fred P. January 23, 2019 at 9:38 PM

Pelosi says the wall is “immoral.”

Did that bonehead ever think there’s a wall between Tijuana and the US at San Ysidro/San Diego?

Why the hell doesn’t she tear it down if it’s “immoral?”

Because it’s the liberal hypocrisy.

Giddyup January 24, 2019 at 7:13 PM

Honestly, I don’t think the Democrats know anything about what is actually there. The same detentions and deportations of illegal aliens took place during the Obama administration, but you never heard much about it. They are all in a stew now because the whole thing came to light and comes as such a surprise to them. They don’t have a clue how to fix the problem. Well, Trump does. They’d be wise to cooperate instead of burying the issue and refusing to solve the problems of illegal immigration like they did under Obama. In the long run Obama’s contributions just made things worse, but Democrats seems to just stall and procrastinate.

Silva January 24, 2019 at 2:18 PM

Gee, to me this has a certain ring of truth.

Possibly NSFW, or I guess it could make you blush.

Silva January 24, 2019 at 2:20 PM

If only they had a wall.

Randy January 24, 2019 at 3:47 PM

5.7 billion for 300 miles.

The border is 3,000 miles. Looks like there would be plenty of places to still cross. What a stupid idea.

HappyPappy January 24, 2019 at 4:15 PM

You clearly are misinformed, educate yourself. You may even avoid looking like an absolute 100% jackass.

Randy January 24, 2019 at 5:33 PM

Can’t you have that nailed down.

Randy January 24, 2019 at 6:02 PM
Giddyup January 25, 2019 at 3:54 AM

Rather than prevention, Democrats favor cleaning up their messes after the fact … even if it is more costly.

HappyPappy January 25, 2019 at 10:06 AM

The wall isn’t meant to seal off the entire border. It’s intended to provide added defense to manpower and high-tech surveillance.
You’re still an uneducated jackass, by choice.
Maybe you should revert to your training of young democrats, or lying about being a Vietnam vet. But then you’d still be a jackass. Oh well……

Jim R January 24, 2019 at 5:00 PM

Speaker Pelosi kickin’ ass and takin’ names.

Normality cannot be allowed while the govt is closed. A couple of days ago a Coast Guard ship deployed out of Alameda for a 5 month mission. Those sailors left behind family who would begin their second month without pay shortly after they sailed.

Our commander in chief is failing his troops. Open the government.

Giddyup January 25, 2019 at 3:51 AM

The government (read IRS and Social Security) does this to private citizens on a regular basis. They are just getting a taste of their own medicine.

Old-school guy January 25, 2019 at 12:25 PM

I agree. Seems to me, both sides value potential immigrants more than the loyal federal workers. Such nonsense.

Randy January 24, 2019 at 5:30 PM

My house has gone high-tech, so I asked Alexa to list Trump’s lies… that was three days ago and she still hasn’t shut up!

Silva January 24, 2019 at 5:32 PM

Let them eat Hamberders.

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