Claycord – Talk About Politics

January 4, 2019 19:05 pm · 175 comments


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Original G January 4, 2019 at 7:06 PM

“A lawsuit brought by forth by the watchdog group Judicial Watch is forcing Los Angeles County to excise an estimated 1.5 million inactive voters from its voter rolls, and the state of California must update its voter registration rules so it complies with federal law.”

wave January 4, 2019 at 7:08 PM

Get Rid of Trump…..he lies everyday…and he wants attention.

He should release his income tax returns … excuses….what a STUPID President he is!!

Darwin January 5, 2019 at 9:07 AM

TRUMP!!!! 🇺🇸
No more sanctuary state. It rewards people for negative behavior. If I get to California I get to stay!! What message is that sending???Something liberals can’t understand and it’s called accountability. You should not get rewarded for negative behavior.
Everyone is PRO- immigration, just come here legally. Is that too much to ask??? Liberals think so. One of the few things I like about President Trump is that he has the liberals in a tizzzy 😊

Darwin January 5, 2019 at 9:09 AM

TRUMP 2020!!! 🇺🇸

Ricardoh January 5, 2019 at 9:20 AM

Forget the good stuff the president said Mexico will pay for the wall. Impeach impeach the expletive.Good thinking !! MAGA

Darwin January 5, 2019 at 9:56 AM

TRUMP 2020!! 🇺🇸

Amigo January 5, 2019 at 11:29 AM

Trump is President
God Bless America

Jim R January 5, 2019 at 4:49 PM

Darwin, you are confusing sanctuary laws with the idea that sanctuary shields you from being arrested.

Darwin January 5, 2019 at 9:15 PM

@ Jim R
The sanctuary laws keep people who have come here illegally from getting deported ( rewarding for negative behavior), even though they have had several felony convictions. Oh Jimmy, see no confusion.

mtzman January 5, 2019 at 11:02 PM

@Darwin, you may not be confused but you are just plain flat out wrong.

Giddyup January 6, 2019 at 10:20 AM

Sanctuary status protects those who have entered the country illegally from prosecution and deportation. That is its sole purpose. It encourages them to report crimes in their community without fear of being deported because of their illegal alien status. As Darwin says, it not only permits law breakers, it encourages them by rewarding those who have broken our laws entering the country illegally. Once a cheater, always a cheater. How many cop killers do we have to let in before the light bulb comes on over liberals heads?

The process to immigrate legally is long and arduous and those who do so show remarkabke committment to the process. They must complete a number of closely prescribed steps, and it is expensive. But one can be assured they will make exceptional citizens . Contrast that difficult process with those who pay criminals to sneek them across the border for whatever reason, illegally entering the country. Listen to their demands to enter and their threats that they will whether it is illegal or not, and you get some sense of how much respect they have for the citizens of this country. It is not surprising that they present like a hostile, angry invading mob, because that is what they are.

Why are they entering illegally? There could be a number of reasons. Perhaps they could not pass the strenuous demands placed on those who enter legally. Perhaps they have criminal convictions. Perhaps they have been previously deported. What orher undesireable characteristucs do they possess that make them unacceptabke candidates for legal immigration? They can’t follow prescribed law for obe. These are the reasons they must be turned away. We don’t need any more people who are lawbreakers. We have enough. We don’t need anymore cheaters. We have enough. We don’t need anymore people trampling our rights because we’re “in the way” of their shortcut. They add nothing to society and are a burden and expense to us all.

Darwin January 6, 2019 at 10:55 AM

What part of what I wrote was incorrect??? You may be in denial.

Jim R January 6, 2019 at 11:07 PM

Darwin-You said “If I get to California I get to stay!”, and “The sanctuary laws keep people who have come here illegally from getting deported”. Those are both factually incorrect.

Concordejet January 4, 2019 at 10:04 PM

It feels so good not to drink for two years. I had been sober for two years. The only time I will drink is when Trump tells the truth. He never tells the truth it because he cannot tell the truth.

Pat January 5, 2019 at 12:06 AM

Good for you to base your drinking on when Trump tells the truth, lol! You’ll surely remain sober. 🙂

The Fearless Spectator January 4, 2019 at 10:31 PM

Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez is absolutely bonkers. And now we have Rashida Tlaib spouting expletives hours after being sworn in. People of this ilk do more damage to their own party than any competitor ever could.

Trojan horse, or just obtuse?

Original G January 4, 2019 at 11:43 PM

The phrase, “trickle down profanity” has been created.

“Newly elected Rep. Jennifer Wexton, D-Va., started her term with a statement of transgender equality by hanging the trans pride flag outside her office in Washington.”

An another new democrat member of Congress refused to touch a Bible when being sworn in.

Robles January 5, 2019 at 9:03 AM

Hypocrite much?

Trump: As a celebrity you can grab women by the p…sy, you can do anything you want.

Trump: Calls kneeling football players, sons of bi..hs.

Original G January 5, 2019 at 9:22 AM

Welllll, . . . . here in CA that doesn’t seem to matter to democrat voters, look what they elected for a governor.

“San Francisco Mayor Gavin Newsom’s re-election campaign manager resigned Wednesday after confronting the mayor about an affair Newsom had with his wife while she worked in the mayor’s office, City Hall sources said. ”

Darwin January 5, 2019 at 9:55 AM

London Breed using her political power for personal gains. I won’t my manslaughter brother out of prison. Who cares about the victims family? She definitely doesn’t !!

Robles January 5, 2019 at 9:59 AM

Affairs, really?

How many has the 🤡 in office had, so when does he resign?

Ricardoh January 5, 2019 at 10:30 AM

The me too movement sort of proved Trump was correct
The drop off of NFL fans sort of proved many agree with him.

Hope Johnson January 5, 2019 at 11:13 AM

If it’s trickling down, then it’s coming from Pres. Trump himself. Who can forget the self-proclaimed owner of the “best words” starting off 2018 by questioning immigration from what he referred to as “sh__thole countries”?

Randy January 5, 2019 at 11:23 AM

Let’s not forget trump’s “Little” Marco. Not referring ti his height.

Dr. Jellyfinger January 7, 2019 at 10:31 PM

The man tells it like he see’s it….
Not afraid to call a spade a spade.

Ricardoh January 5, 2019 at 10:52 AM

How illegals don’t add to the economy.
In fact, illegal immigration costs taxpayers a staggering $134.9 billion a year while contributing only $19 billion in state, federal, and local taxes. At the federal level, medical costs make up the lion’s share of government expenditures on illegal immigrants, while education is the largest single expense that illegal immigration imposes on state and local governments.

mtzman January 5, 2019 at 2:10 PM

That number has been debunked so many times it would be laughable were it not for the Trumpian lemmings who actually believe this load of manure.

Ricardoh January 5, 2019 at 2:58 PM
Jim R January 6, 2019 at 11:00 AM

FAIR is one of the least ‘fair minded’ organizations in the immigration debate. Look at who they are, and how they frame their articles. They fit the president’s style perfectly.

Original G January 5, 2019 at 1:00 PM

May take six months to a year for democrats of the House of Representatives to work thru childish posturing and performing for their base.

US Senate was created to act as a stupid filter. Impeachment might make it thru the House but will die in the Senate as will inane bills passed by the House.

Meantime stock up on popcorn and watch the fun as lost cause Ocasio-Cortez will probably out ‘airhead’ both pelosi and MAD maxine for the next two years. Liberal voters deserve these three.

Robles January 5, 2019 at 2:15 PM

At last count Trump has played golf 167 times since becoming president, how much money has Trump made and how much has that cost the Nation?

Rob January 5, 2019 at 2:24 PM

While I am not a fan of AOC’s policies but it is fun to watch Right-Wing Men lose their heads over a young woman looking good while dancing.

Anon January 5, 2019 at 2:28 PM

Who could blame him? He probably got tired of listening to Pelosi’s “girls are better than boys” arguments.

Robles January 5, 2019 at 3:04 PM

Quick, lets build a Southern Border wall because that’s how they are clearly infiltrating the USA.

The Fearless Spectator January 5, 2019 at 3:48 PM

If they really want to build the wall:

Award the building contract to a construction company interested in becoming publicly traded. Squeeze the banks for discounted underwriting services in exchange for revolving credit opportunties. Next offer IPO shares of stock to Pelosi and her affiliates.

Sign a long term contract with PlumpJack Group to provide food, beverage, and hospitality services to affiliates involved during construction. This will provide Mr. Newsom with years of additional income.

This is obviously an absurd and illegal scenario. However to get things done with politicians you have to appeal to the larceny in their hearts which is substantive.

94517 January 5, 2019 at 3:55 PM

@Nofreerides Agree!!! sad to watch the gradual destruction of this Country and amount of support for leftist liberal socialists.

Darwin January 5, 2019 at 4:11 PM

@ change
We are turning into a 3rd world country.

Randy January 5, 2019 at 4:17 PM


The US is not a Christian nation

The government of the United States is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion.”

John Adams

and in a nutshell what is wrong with America today.

Giddyup January 5, 2019 at 11:15 PM

Our legal system has its foundation in the Judeo-Christuan ethic.

Giddyup January 5, 2019 at 11:22 PM

Our legal system has its foundation in the Judeo-Christian ethic.

Amigo January 6, 2019 at 10:25 AM

“The fundamental basis of this nation’s laws was given to Moses on the Mount…If we don’t have a proper fundamental moral background, we will finally end up with a totalitarian government which does not believe in rights for anybody except the State.”

― Harry S. Truman

Amigo January 6, 2019 at 11:58 AM

“The Bible is the one supreme source of revelation of the meaning of life, the nature of God, and spiritual nature and needs of men. It is the only guide of life which really leads the spirit in the way of peace and salvation. America was born a Christian nation. America was born to exemplify that devotion to the elements of righteousness which are derived from the revelations of Holy Scripture.” – Woodrow Wilson, Twenty eighth President

Hope Johnson January 6, 2019 at 1:42 PM

The US is a nation founded on the rule of law precisely so the minority will not be denied religious freedom by the majority.

“In this enlightened age and in this land of equal liberty, it is our boast, that a man’s religious tenets will not forfeit the protection of the laws, nor deprive him of the right of attaining and holding the highest offices that are known in the United States.” George Washington 1793

“[T]hat the opinions of men are not the object of civil government, nor under its jurisdiction; that to suffer the civil magistrate to intrude his powers into the field of opinion and to restrain the profession or propagation of principles on supposition of their ill tendency is a dangerous fallacy, which at once destroys all religious liberty.” Thomas Jefferson, 1779

In other words, it was intended that no one is required to abide by your particular religious beliefs and we are not required to adhere to your belief that only Christians have the ability to behave ethically.

Jim R January 5, 2019 at 4:59 PM

Mueller’s Grand Jury just extended another six months. More work to do!

Jim R January 6, 2019 at 11:03 AM

Just like the space between your ears.

Original G January 5, 2019 at 6:21 PM

MY, My, my, . . . have patience, for in a few years governor Silver Spoon and state legislature will likely have put into place a CA health plan. Which within a decade or so after it’s imposition will be well on it’s way in accomplishing two things, decimating the quality of healthcare and bankrupting the state.

Back in 2017 CA Senate Bill 562 was pulled,
Analysis of the bill put yearly cost at $400 billion.

Must remember Silver Spoon comes from tax rich San Francisco, where they throw their almost limitless tax dollars at every problem. Many of which are product of their progressive liberal socialist nanny state governance.

“In 10 years, he pledged on June 30, 2004, the worst of San Francisco’s homeless problem would be gone.”
‘Poop. Needles. Rats. Homeless camp pushes SF neighborhood to the edge’

‘SF’s appalling street life repels residents — now it’s driven away a convention’

Member of the San Francisco Board of Supervisors
January 8, 1997 – January 8, 2004
Mayor of San Francisco
January 8, 2004 – January 10, 2011

Remember, YOU deserve, what you voted for.

Original G January 5, 2019 at 6:45 PM

Sanctuary, what be the cost ?

” ‘He stood for what is right in our world and taken from us by what is wrong’: California police officer hailed as ‘Fiji-born American hero’ who was slain by an illegal immigrant is laid to rest ”

Darwin January 5, 2019 at 9:18 PM

@ Retired LEO 👍👍👍

mtzman January 5, 2019 at 11:25 PM

@Retired, you do understand that sanctuary laws did not apply in this case and there was nothing that prevented law enforcement from turning the murder suspect over to the feds back in 2014, right? And I’m sure you remember the time Dick Cheney told Senator Leahy to F off on the floor of the Senate.

You see, we liberals are proud of the fact that we honor and respect the truth, we reject hypocrisy, we’re not idiot enough to fall for the stupid wall, and, in any event, we don’t feel the need for a bloody war.

Enjoy your retirement…

Giddyup January 6, 2019 at 10:28 AM

@mtzman Liberals … tolerant to a fault … until you disagree with them.

Not a Trump Fan January 6, 2019 at 1:06 PM

OG/Ret Leo and all the others, what you all fail to accept is that far more people are killed each day by US citizens. Where is the outrage over the killing of 7 year old girl last week or the thousands of others that aren’t reported in the national news unless it’s a mass shooting or at the hands of an illegal immigrant? How does spending billions of dollars on a useless wall stop the majority of crime which is not committed by illegal immigrants?

Pookie January 6, 2019 at 1:55 PM

Right on @Leo!

Retired LEO January 6, 2019 at 9:29 PM

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mtzman January 7, 2019 at 12:33 AM

I come from a long line of law enforcement, with family members currently serving agencies in California, Oregon, Kansas, Alabama, and military police in Italy/Africa. One died in the 1960s while serving with the LAPD and another recently IOD and forced to retire. And while I have not worn a badge myself, I have spent many hours on ride-alongs with several agencies, was POST certified (PC 832), and have worked on a regular basis with local agencies on a variety of matters, from sexual assaults to drug possession to weapon possession, and even on cyber theft. I practiced law for many years before I retired and I know my way around a courtroom, the Penal Code and the Constitution. I have first-hand and personal knowledge that it is possible to be both liberal AND supportive of law enforcement.

I, for one, do not blame law enforcement but the simple fact is that the state sanctuary laws had absolutely nothing to do with the officer’s death, and you know it, or at least if you really are a retired LEO, you should know it.

Giddyup January 7, 2019 at 1:48 AM

If you don’t want to secure the nation’s border, it is unlikely you secure your home, either. Please post your address so criminal illegal aliens will know where their sanctuary “friends” can be found.

JWB January 8, 2019 at 9:32 AM

wow Giddyup

you must have a strange looking house, because according to you own analogy you only have a wall on the south side.

Original G January 5, 2019 at 9:57 PM


“A man who was arrested in the 2014 killings of two Northern California deputies appeared in court Tuesday, laughing, smiling and shouting out that a deputy was a coward as the prosecution laid out the timeline of the crime spree that spanned Sacramento and Placer counties.

Luis Bracamontes, who was in the country illegally after having previously been deported twice to Mexico, is on trial in the shooting deaths of Sacramento County sheriff’s Deputy Danny Oliver and Placer County sheriff’s Detective Mike Davis.”

” Admitted CA Cop Killer Laughs, Says in Court He Wishes He Could Kill More ”

So this is how Democrat politicians protect us ? ? ?

Jim R January 6, 2019 at 11:10 AM

og, that commercial didn’t work in the campaign and it doesn’t work now. Immigrants don’t scare me, why do they scare you?

Rollo Tomasi January 6, 2019 at 1:47 PM

Jim R, why does the distinction between immigration and illegal immigration scare leftists like you?

Original G January 6, 2019 at 2:25 PM

Jim R …. Rational debate or personal attack ?? ? ?

Immigration needs to benefit America by attracting qualified persons who will not be criminally predatory or a perpetual drain upon society.

Asylum, yes in proven cases. Coming across the Border then failing to show up for Court hearings disappearing until caught again is not acceptable.

How about mandatory E-verify for every person working in the USA?

Original G January 6, 2019 at 7:56 PM

Cheap labor so campaign contributors to democrats can maximize profits, no thanks.

Progressive liberals back in the 60s and 70s decided to “HELP” the poor farm workers. What followed were regulations, Laws and governmental red tape which all served to raise the cost per hour for that unskilled labor. In so doing automation became cheaper.

Please educate yourself in advances in automation.
Majority or your food these days is machine harvested. Will keep this brief for regular readers of Claycord as most of it’s been posted before.
Just a few, rest you can find by searching.

Now progressive liberal politicians are doing it again to fast food.

Bill Gates on minimum wage

As labor pool gets tighter wages naturally increase as we are seeing under President Trump.

Jim R January 6, 2019 at 11:21 PM

Rollo, I assume you jest. Neither type of immigration bothers me. No hate, no fear, immigrants are welcome here!
og,facts don’t support your fears. Immigrant communities are less likely to have crime problems and while there are greater costs associated with initial time periods you are going to have to get a little more specific about a ‘perpetual drain’, Asylum seekers show at their court hearings at over 90% attendance. I’ve got no problem with e-verify, how about criminal penalties for ‘job creators’ that hire undocumented workers? Conflating automation and attempts to make a workplace safer is ridiculous. Automation is coming everywhere, it is just easier to start with simpler tasks.

F January 6, 2019 at 11:59 PM

Basing the belief that several illegals made terrible choices so they are all bad is like saying all white people are school shooters since all school shooters happen to be white

Rollo Tomasi January 7, 2019 at 12:11 PM

Jim R:
“Neither type of immigration bothers me.”

Good to know. I’ll assume I have your support when when I convert my AR-15 to fully automatic. After all, there’s really no distinction between the two, and it’s just a silly federal law anyway.

Jim R January 7, 2019 at 1:19 PM

Rollo-You know what happens when you assume something right? I absolutely don’t support that position on guns and I see no relation in the legal underpinnings of issues that deal with tools, and those that deal with people.

Rollo Tomasi January 8, 2019 at 5:27 PM

Jim, both scenarios deal with breaking federal laws. It’s either OK or not OK.

Jim R January 8, 2019 at 10:23 PM

They both have human rights implications as well.

Kauai Mike January 6, 2019 at 6:07 AM

@ Retired LEO – don’t forget the millions of babies viciously killed in their mothers’ wombs thanks to leftists while they complain of a couple children dying at border crossings they encouraged with sanctuary laws.

The left would disarm you, tax everything you build, buy, or acquire, and force poisonous vaccines & dumbed-down government schools upon your children.

They seek a singular, homogeneous, easily managed global populace.

America is the last hold-out and must be conquered.

Thus, they will descend to any depth of depravity & violence in trying to destroy the Trump presidency and individual freedoms he advocates..

Jim R January 6, 2019 at 11:17 AM

There are no babies inside of mothers wombs.

How many ‘leftists’ are currently being held on murder charges resulting from an incident at a political gathering? The answer is zero. How many Trump supporters? One.

Anon January 6, 2019 at 11:58 AM

Jim R,
Please be consistent with the whole “My body, My choice”.

Isn’t it your party that is pushing Mandatory vaccinations?


Jim R January 6, 2019 at 11:27 PM

Anon-Actually it is the medical profession that leads the call for mandatory vaccinations. It’s also not close to being related. Mandatory vaccinations also create herd immunity, a situation where the vaccinated community creates an environment where even those that are unable to be vaccinated are protected.

Dr. Jellyfinger January 7, 2019 at 10:25 PM

Well gee Jim… if the Capitol Police and Alexandria Police weren’t such fine marksmen, we’d at least have James Hodgkinson in jail for shooting House Majority Whip Steve Scalise and 3 other people.

Jim R January 8, 2019 at 10:29 PM

dj-The original topic referenced killing. The only way to respond to the non sequitur is…if ‘ifs and buts’ were candy and nuts we’d all have a Merry Christmas. Glad to see Scalise is back in Congress, sorry that he appears to have no more sense than before.

Tsa January 6, 2019 at 10:35 AM

Unfortunately, all four of those politicians are clearly self-centered and only concerned about themselves and maintaining their positions and perks. Appalling that they didn’t have the decency to support Cpl. Singh, but it does show their true character.

amieollie January 6, 2019 at 11:40 AM

Did you go down to Newman for the ceremonies, Tsa, or was the timing too much of a barrier and conflict with your personal and professional responsibilities and priorities?

miggy January 6, 2019 at 11:09 AM

Anyone who thinks the left are a bunch of cry babies should look at this page every week and see the right constantly complaining about everything if they want some perspective.

Not a Trump Fan January 6, 2019 at 12:41 PM

Liar in chief, now on his 3rd wife is also a POS wife cheater. And it’s already been proven that he cheated on wife #3. I’m not condoning cheating but why is it that you care so much about Newsom’s behavior but turn a blind eye to your beloved Trump? And this is also true for DJ Jr. who is a POS wife cheater and has slicked back hair?!?

Giddyup January 6, 2019 at 10:46 PM

Greaseball was holding public office when he cheated on his wife. Trump was not. Greaseball’s paramour was granted leave as a result at taxpayers expense. Trump’s wasn’t. The difference is that liberals like to drag their immorality out for all the world to see, and parade it in front of everybody while they are on the public dime. It’s their badge of honor and their “up yours” to the indebtedness they feel to their supporters.

But, moral people everywhere will have the last laugh. One day Greaseball’s children (the ones he is trying so hard to impress) will grow up to find out what a terribke human being he was and how dishonorably he behaved towards his best friend, his best friend’s wife, and the very first woman he ever promised to love, honor, and obey. They will wonder the rest of their lives if he really loved their mother and if he cheated on her, and nothing he says will convince them otherwise. In other words, they’ll discover what a miserable cad he really is.

Robles January 6, 2019 at 1:02 PM

You must be referring to the Trumps!

Not a Trump Fan January 6, 2019 at 3:03 PM

Yes. This was actually a response to OG comment earlier about Newsom cheating and beware of slick back hair guys.

Silva January 6, 2019 at 7:29 PM

Be especially wary of slick back hair guys with swooping cantilevered fronts.

Not a Trump Fan January 6, 2019 at 1:54 PM

Just watched Acting Chief of Staff Mulvaney try to explain (spin) a statement he made about Obama when he took Executive Actions on immigration. In 2014 GOP Congressman Mulvaney said “This country is governed by the rule of law, not the rule of one man. The President’s excuse – that Congress hasn’t acted is pathetic and insulting. His party had complete and total control of the White House, Senate and House of Representatives for 2 solid years, and completely ignored immigration reform.” Of course Mulvaney said Trumps 2 years of total GOP control is different.

The hypocrisy and indignation by the GOP would be laughable if it wasn’t so sad. The last 6 years of Obama’s administration was all about GOP obstructionism. It’s very rich that Trump thinks the DEMs started this. Can anybody say Merritt Garland? #StolenScotusSeat

Original G January 6, 2019 at 4:30 PM

Would you be kind enough to supply URL regarding Mulvaney comments?

Not a Trump Fan January 6, 2019 at 9:05 PM

OG, He was on today’s State of the Union with Jake Tapper CNN.

Original G January 6, 2019 at 2:38 PM

. For those with short term memories, June 2017

“A gunman shot four people, including Majority Whip Steve Scalise (R-La.), at a baseball field in Alexandria, Va., on Wednesday as Republican congressmen were practicing for the annual Congressional Baseball Game. The shooter was pronounced dead at a hospital after a gun battle with police.”

“Steve Scalise, Nancy Pelosi, and a return to civility”

“Steve Scalise Shooting: Lawmakers react to shooting of House Majority Whip”

An here we are January 2019,
“Scalise later tweeted screenshots of some responses from Ocasio-Cortez’s supporters in which they said ‘snipe his a**’ and ‘kick his cane’ ”

mtzman January 6, 2019 at 5:30 PM

OG, do you recall all the things said about Gabby Giffords after she was shot?

Original G January 6, 2019 at 6:29 PM

“OG, do you recall all the things said about Gabby Giffords after she was shot?”
mtzman … No I don’t Please post with URLs. Thanks

mtzman January 8, 2019 at 8:49 AM

I tried posting URLs to another post this week and it was removed. But you obviously know your way qqqaround a search engine so give it a try yourself. Sorry …

Original G January 8, 2019 at 10:19 AM

Well that’s OK, thank you for the effort and your Honesty.

amigo January 6, 2019 at 5:12 PM

Trump is President
God Bless America

Darwin January 6, 2019 at 7:39 PM

TRUMP 2020!! 🇺🇸

Silva January 6, 2019 at 5:25 PM

Kinda like that red wave last November, eh?

Original G January 6, 2019 at 11:42 PM

Ever notice when small children playing a game don’t win, a tantrum sometimes results and they want new rules so they’ll always win ? ? ?

Electoral College explained, for impressionable low information voters

mtzman January 7, 2019 at 6:01 AM

Yes, POTUS does it all the time …

JWB January 7, 2019 at 9:42 AM

Hey OG

Obviously you would call anybody who says:

“The electoral college is a disaster for a democracy”an impressionable low information voter?

So why do you keep defending this low IQ person as your President?

Original G January 7, 2019 at 4:50 PM

So you folks would like to see voters in largest cities picking the President ? ? ?

Now hang on a second and think about what has happened here in CA with the Proposition process. Special interest groups band together and spend tens of millions of dollars on advertising right before an election.

Impressionable low information voters, who care more about what time some bubble butts from LA will be on TV or how many bars their mobile devices have than they do about being an informed voter.

Spent in support of
Prop 47 Reduced Penalties for Some Crimes Initiative $10,306,082
Proposition 57, Parole for Non-Violent Criminals $18,566,255.42

What if one party spent a few billion each national election.
How much did democrats spend last election on Congressional races?
“Democrats’ campaign machine won the House — and left them $18 million in debt”

A few large cities pick Presidents and rest of the country is frozen out.
How do you think the rest of the country would react long term ? ? ?

Why have yellow vests in France been rioting for better than two months ?

Fred P. January 8, 2019 at 9:57 AM

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Dr. Jellyfinger January 8, 2019 at 8:16 PM

A “low IQ” billionaire?

Maybe the rest of us are too smart for our own good.

Jim R January 8, 2019 at 10:43 PM

og-Why is it that 3 million urban voters are less important than 3 million rural voters? In the first American election, less than 44,000 votes were cast (and polls were open for over 4 weeks). A single group could have dominated the election. Which group could dominate an election with over 130 million votes cast?

Orifinal G January 7, 2019 at 8:18 AM

Who will be President Trump’s next Supreme Court pick ?

Silva January 7, 2019 at 11:00 AM

Who will be the acting President today…

Original G January 7, 2019 at 10:36 AM

Number of news stories in past few days about PG&E.

Giddyup January 7, 2019 at 12:52 PM

Democrats don’t know how to behave when they’re wrong … which is most of the time. That’s why they walk around with that slightly surprised look on their faces and make ridiculous, off-the-wall statements. Notice how big Nancy Pelosi’s eyes get. It’s a combination of “I can’t believe that just happened” and “Let’s just pretend like it didn’t.”

Original G January 7, 2019 at 5:07 PM

Where did DACA (Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals) come from ?
Did Congress enact it, was it a Presidential Executive Order etc. ?
Share your knowledge

Robles January 7, 2019 at 7:11 PM

Get ready for the Lie-O-Meter to have a majorbmeltdown in tomorrows Oval Office address, the Con simply can’t and won’t tell the truth.

Dr. Jellyfinger January 7, 2019 at 9:28 PM

Following the Presidents Oval Office Address Nancy Pel00si will give a rebuttal that explains how erecting a barrier wall will actually make it easier for drug runners and undocumented Democrats to sneak into the USA.

mtzman January 8, 2019 at 1:02 AM

Quick question, Doc: if those undocumented Democrats are so good at sneaking in by way of the southern border, why are so many states along the southern border predominantly red states?

Original G January 8, 2019 at 12:07 PM

Dr. Jellyfinger . . . Thought you were kidding, they are actually going to let her on nation wide TV. Hope they make her take a nap before she goes on.
Hey Honey ! ! ! ?
Where’s the popcorn ?

mtzman . . . Perhaps it is because residents of Border states have seen first hand problems caused by as you call them “undocumented Democrats” and they want it stopped.

But that’s OK, now that governor silver spoon is in office many will be coming to CA for free healthcare and all the rest of free handouts from the NANNY STATE which is CA.

He is used to SF where there is virtually no limit to amount of tax payer money which can be thrown at a problem. Rude awakening coming both for him and those who voted for him when CA runs out of money.

Randy January 8, 2019 at 12:54 PM

And the networks can’t wait to fact check him. No drinking games to night. There’s not that much liquor around.

Original G January 8, 2019 at 1:26 PM

Randy … Yup, tonight will be interesting, What might prove more interesting is Pelosi’s weekly press conference, believe it is tomorrow, especially if she takes questions.

Have long believed Congress needed a mandatory retirement age, then comes along this crop of young members of Congress.
Perhaps minimum age should also be mandatory.

Spouting short sighted verbal and twitter diarrhea they spew without thinking merely to appease their base and get more face time on TV.

Immaturity of short sighted me first socialist liberals is something to behold. History challenged, they are firmly convinced they can do better and naively an possibly unknowingly are trying to make communism work in America.

Their Utopia where government supplies all, controls all which would end up impoverishing those it seeks to care for.

mtzman January 8, 2019 at 11:27 PM

@OG, first of all, I did not come up with undocumented Democrats; that was the brainchild of Dr. J.

Much more importantly, your response seems to confirm that the red states like Texas and Arizona have NOT been overrun.

Chicken Little January 9, 2019 at 4:07 AM

Texas and Arizona are still red because the illegals (or Unregistered Democrats) who enter there keep on truckin’ to California, where we give them free stuff.

mtzman January 9, 2019 at 9:14 AM

So, CL, what you’re saying is, we also need a wall on California’s eastern border?

Chicken Little January 9, 2019 at 3:05 PM

Stop being obtuse. If we put up a wall and keep illegals from crossing the southern borders of Texas and Arizona, we won’t need to worry about them heading east to California.

Alternatively, we could stop rewarding illegals for coming to California, but Democrats would rather keep sweetening the pot and protecting illegals from deportation.

mtzman January 9, 2019 at 4:10 PM

Not trying to be obtuse but I can’t get that scene out of my head in Blazing Saddles where they all have to go through a toll booth in the middle of nowhere. Makes about as much sense as that stupid wall, only a lot funnier.

Original G January 8, 2019 at 4:25 PM

When watching the rebuttal from democrats you might want to ask yourself why democrats don’t want a barrier and for whatever day-glow reason they won’t get serious about immigration reform.

Pay special attention to what Schumer has to say then compare to this,

Do democrats really care about you, your family and our country ? ? ?

JWB January 8, 2019 at 5:24 PM

@ OG

I did watch the link you provided and don’t see anything inconsistent with the Democrat agenda on immigration. I don’t hear Schumer advocating a costly useless wall along the southern boarder.

As a matter of fact here is what Ron Paul just today said about the same issue

Of course everybody realizes that Trump’s wall is just a shiny object for his low information voters …..

Silva January 8, 2019 at 6:12 PM

Trump’s prime time infomercial.

Watch the speech – then donate to Trump! President’s campaign turns Oval Office address into money raising effort

Robles January 8, 2019 at 6:34 PM

Couple things missing from speech, live studio audience and them stupid maga hats.

Randy January 8, 2019 at 7:46 PM

and no operators standing buy taking your contributions.

Silva January 9, 2019 at 8:13 AM

Randy, you spoke too soon.

Original G January 8, 2019 at 7:31 PM


“A U.S. appeals court in San Francisco has upheld a law that prohibits people in the country illegally from possessing guns.

A three-judge panel of the 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals ruled unanimously Tuesday that the law does not violate the Second Amendment right to bear arms.”

Jim R January 8, 2019 at 10:52 PM

He almost made it…What did the president mean when he said “At the request of Democrats, it will be a steel barrier rather than a concrete wall…”?

Original G January 9, 2019 at 9:50 AM

Democratic national convention in 2016 at the Wells Fargo Center in Philadelphia was held behind fencing. They only wanted those who were authorized to be there inside their fence, too bad they don’t feel that way about OUR country.

mtzman January 9, 2019 at 2:07 PM

So are we going to hear endless revelations about the existence of fences? Yes, fences can be good in appropriate situations.

I will admit it: I have a fence around my back yard. But its primary purpose is to keep the dog in, not keep undesirable people, drugs, gangs, or weapons out. It is 6 feet tall cedar at its highest point, it didn’t take years to build, it didn’t cost billions upon billions of dollars, it won’t cost billions more to maintain, and, most important, the dog has never gotten out. The cats, however, well that’s a different story altogether …

Original G January 9, 2019 at 2:11 PM

Do you feel better now, after that ?

mtzman January 9, 2019 at 4:02 PM

Actually, I do. People seem to be a little grumpy today …

Rollo Tomasi January 9, 2019 at 5:20 PM

“… not keep undesirable people, drugs, gangs, or weapons out.”

What if those people with those things wanted in to your backyard?

mtzman January 10, 2019 at 2:30 AM

RT, in the 22 years we’ve lived here, we haven’t had a whole lot of trouble with undesirables, drugs, gangs or weapons, but if we ever do, I suspect I’d call 911, And we also have a home security system, with cameras, lights, and alarms, which is a whole lot cheaper and a lot more effective.

And therein lies the rub. No system will ever be perfect, but I am quite comfortable with the system I researched, planned and implemented quickly in a cost-effective manner. Trump has done none of these things. A concrete wall has now become a much more expensive steel barrier, but we really don’t know the true cost of the wall because there does not appear to be any detailed plans in place, hence the huge range of estimates, all of which are considerably higher than the $5.7 billion Trump is demanding, not to mention the massive additional costs of transporting steel.

And for those of you wanting to build that wall right now, keep in mind that Trump signed Executive Order 13767, directing immediate construction on January 25, 2017 and despite having control over both houses of Congress since that time, has managed to accomplish zilch.

Silva January 10, 2019 at 10:16 AM

mtzman, I feel like adding to your list the tariffs on steel that trump has stuck us with, that only AMERICANS and nobody else pays.

mtzman January 10, 2019 at 7:29 PM

You’re absolutely right, of course. I’m also amazed but not surprised that that none of the rah-rah-Trumpers never seem to have any rebuttal to the nitty gritty details of how to actually build a wall.

Original G January 9, 2019 at 10:42 AM

Political cartoonists having a filed day with immigration, the wall and democrats. An regular folks are really taking them to task.

“Social media wastes no time erupting with Chuck and Nancy ‘disappointed parent’ memes…”
“Schumer and Pelosi’s response to Trump’s address becomes instant meme sensation on Twitter”

One of the best, “Pelosi and Schumer could care less for the lives lost due to the crisis at our border. It all about ruining Trump’s 2020 reelection chances.”

HappyPappy January 9, 2019 at 2:21 PM

It doesn’t matter what you left wing lunatics think, America elected Trump to secure the border. Those smarmy lying democrats supported the wall when that big-eared-bozo wanted one and even under GWB, but they now sabotage everything the president tries to accomplish for America. He’s asking for 2% of the proposed budget. Stop listening to the emotional brats like Pelosi and Schumer with their made up facts and lies that get force fed to you by the rest of the weak kneed democrats and the compromised liberal media.

WC Resident January 9, 2019 at 5:26 PM

The Russians installed Trump as POTUS. Trump lost in the popular vote in America.

Fred P. January 9, 2019 at 6:04 PM

@wc….. and that is EXACTLY why we have the electoral college, instead of electing the president by a “popular vote.”

And I’ll bet NONE of the liberals here remember that both Schumer and Pelosi (and other democrat politicians) pushed fir a wall at the Mexico border 5-6 years ago. In fact, there were several years where funds in the order of $6-8 billion were approved for a wall. Yet it was never built. So where did the money go?

So for those of you complaining about Trump, look in your own party for the hypocrisy.

Liar! Liar! January 9, 2019 at 6:34 PM

Trump won the election, and you can’t deal with it!

Fred P. January 9, 2019 at 8:40 PM

Uhhhh, WC….

Unless you losers have some PROOF, the electoral college elected trump.

Russians “installed” trump?

Wow – we’re going to be hearing from the liberal sore losers for another 6 years.

Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah. Go get your binky…

Fred P. January 10, 2019 at 6:48 AM

House Speaker Nancy Pelosi and Homeland Security Secretary Kirstjen Nielsen got into a tense confrontation this past week, with the California Democrat interrupting Nielsen’s presentation on border security and illegal immigration, telling her “I reject your facts.”

Once again, the democrats can’t deal with facts.

Randy January 9, 2019 at 3:16 PM

The rebuttal to trumps speech had a higher rating. More Americans were interested in what the democrats had to say than trump.

Fred P. January 9, 2019 at 6:10 PM

A “higher rating?” So what? And who provided that “higher rating” – the DNC? Or did you just pull that tidbit outta your a$$?

Must be those other 3,000,000 votes from the popular vote that went to hillary…. you know, the bottom-dwelling uniformed liberals that vote for anything with a (D) after it.

Randy January 9, 2019 at 3:24 PM

The Federal Government Didn’t Pay Their $5 Million Water Bill; Should Water To The White House Be Shut Off?

Randy January 9, 2019 at 3:44 PM

250,000 veterans are not currently receiving paychecks

Original G January 9, 2019 at 6:19 PM

Failure to come up with immigration system that works is endangering people especially children. Career politicians of previous Congresses and three previous Presidents failed, likely because of campaign contributions from companies and mega wealthy who make larger profits by exploiting illegals.

“Border authorities are referring 50 people a day for urgent medical care, including tuberculosis, flu and even pregnant women about to give birth,” …

“Most of those in need of care are children, and a staggering 28 percent are under age 5, having been dragged along for the trip by parents who in many cases are hoping to use the children as a shield against speedy deportation from the U.S”

For an example, cost to treat drug resistant tuberculosis is staggering.
Moderate drug resistant tuberculosis $164,000
Extreme drug resistant tuberculosis $526,000

An again I ask,
Where did DACA (Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals) come from ?
Did Congress enact it, was it a Presidential Executive Order etc. ?
Did Obama pull a fast one ? ? ? ?

Robles January 9, 2019 at 7:43 PM

Trump finally unleashes idle threats of fire, fury and frankly power the likes of which this world has never seen before when he throws a temper tantrum and slams his hand on a desk and storms out of meeting with Democrats.

Silva January 9, 2019 at 8:02 PM

Right wing pensioners are SEVEN TIMES more likely to spread fake news than millennials, claim scientists

Republicans aged 65 and over shared seven times more fake new articles during the US 2016 election than people aged between 18 and 29. Ninety per cent of people did not share fake news but, of those who did, nearly a fifth (18 per cent) held right-wing beliefs and were of state-pension age, a study found. Only four per cent of democrats shared links to fake news sites. Each person of this age group shared 0.75 fake news articles on average, seven times more than millennials. Authors of the study from Princeton University say the findings show the need for more education of ‘vulnerable subgroups’ about fake news.

Dr. Jellyfinger January 9, 2019 at 8:31 PM

Left wing rich guy Reid Hoffman not only posts blatant, easily exposed lies supporting right wingers.. he makes it look like the Russians did it !

Fred P. January 9, 2019 at 8:46 PM

And look at who developed the “study” and came up with those “conclusions.”

Until you get a completely independent polling group with no political axes to grind, any study can be developed to prove anything.

Goes to show that you will grab at anything to support your beliefs. You might consider a few classes in statistics .

Silva January 9, 2019 at 9:04 PM

”Mr Hoffman has been previously linked to a secretive effort to ‘experiment with many of the tactics now understood to have influenced the 2016 elections’, using a bitterly disputed special election in Alabama in 2017 as a laboratory.”

He tried to put the shoe on the other foot.

giddyup January 9, 2019 at 10:38 PM

Who knew CNN was mostly “over 65?”

amieollie January 9, 2019 at 8:18 PM

Paul Manafort’s lawyers describe him as “depressed” and “anxious.” Understandable.

Merriam-Webster definition of COLLUSION: Secret agreement or cooperation, especially for an illegal or deceitful purpose // acting in collusion with the enemy. Synonyms: complicity, connivance, conspiracy.

Not time to open the champagne; will make do for now with a nice gin and tonic.

Dr. Jellyfinger January 9, 2019 at 10:39 PM


Manafort was charged with financial fraud that occurred in 2014.

Silva January 10, 2019 at 6:45 AM

Woo hoo!! I’m with her!!! I don’t need no champagne though, just keep the nice gin and tonics coming. This is sooo much less boring than the tired old Donald Trump horse and pony show I’ve been seeing for the past FOURTY YEARS! That’s the worst thing about all of this. Tiresome..

Dr. Jellyfinger January 10, 2019 at 8:27 PM

Silva….. you aren’t filing your nails… are you?

Silva January 11, 2019 at 9:37 AM


Fred P. January 9, 2019 at 8:36 PM

BOOM! From the Washington Post no less! “Pelosi and Senate Minority Leader Charles E. Schumer (N.Y.) came across as small and intransigent.”

So they had “more viewers” according to someone here. Bottom feeders feed on bottom feeders…..

Dr. Jellyfinger January 9, 2019 at 8:56 PM

They gotta do it…
Have you seen the rate of exchange?…

Illegal alienz send a whole lotta USD back to their families in Mexico….a whopping $26.1 billion last year (it keeps Mexico’s economy afloat)…. and since they’re here, the USA gives them welfare & health care… for FREE!

How can they NOT come here?

Randy January 9, 2019 at 10:03 PM

I got a kick out of trumps “heart and soul” statement. He really shouldn’t use words he doesn’t understand…….

28.1 rating, that says over 70% of this country TUNED OUT POTUS! his ratings on television be couldn’t be lower could they?

Well I guess America or majority have spoken.

jon s January 10, 2019 at 2:32 AM

sounds like u watch CNN mr snowflake.

Original G January 10, 2019 at 9:35 AM

President of US chamber of commerce claimed today US is out of workers.
Perhaps would be more accurate that businesses will have to become more efficient and pay up for US workers.

For decades companies have encouraged cheap labor via a broken immigration system or have exploited worker visa system rather than partnering with educational system to train up American workers.

It’s time to concentrate on improving the skill set of US workers so they can move towards living wage jobs. The natural course of supply and demand rather than government screwing things up with wage mandates.

As we’ve already seen with agricultural workers when cost of labor is greater than cost of automation, innovators design and build machines to take the place of low skilled labor. Granted there are jobs which can not be easily automated and in those cases business will end up raising wages to attract workers.

Fred P. January 10, 2019 at 9:51 AM

Randy – How does a “28.1 rating” translate to “over 70% of this country tuning out POTUS?” And how is your question of “it couldn’t be lower” derived, based on your quote of “28.1 rating?”

And did you bother checking out other websites, besides the one site that provided your “28.1 rating?” Obviously not, because that was one (left-wing) site that supported your belief. In other words, you’re guilty of cherry picking statistics that support your opinion and don’t bother to look objectively at the facts. I can find polls that range from less than 20% to over 80% favorable……but that doesn’t mean a damn thing.

You knowledge of statistics, polling and cause/effect is slightly less than my dog’s knowledge of the subjects. And it appears your command of the English language – including grammar – is even less.

You might want to think before you type (ie, ramble)….

amieollie January 10, 2019 at 1:05 PM

Just made an entry in my brand spanking new calendar. February 7 : Michael Cohen testifies before congressional committee in public. Considering a picnic lunch, a sparkling punch; maybe even whomp up a batch of chocolate chip cookies. A veritable super bowl for political junkies.

Original G January 10, 2019 at 3:47 PM

OK, yes this is from fox. Seldom put their stuff up, but whoever put this video together deserves a well done and a pat on the back.

cnn’s jim acosta in all his narraccistic Hubris walks next to a steel slat fence on the southern border and proclaims,

“Here are some of the steel slats that the president’s been talking about,” … “But as we’re walking along here, we’re not seeing any kind of imminent danger.” … “There are no migrants trying to rush toward this fence.” …
“no sign of the national emergency that the president has been talking about”

Those crossing the Border, bringing in drugs etc. are going to where the walls are not and crossing there. What’s amazing is neither acosta, anyone in crew with him, his producer, nor anyone at cnn was sharp enough to pick up on how they were providing evidence a physical barrier on the Border works.

amieollie January 10, 2019 at 5:49 PM

It takes one narraccistic with Hubris to know one. But I’m betting that Jim Acosta (He’s CNN’s White House Correspondent) knows how to spell it even if you don’t.

Original G January 10, 2019 at 6:30 PM

thank you for pointing that out, have educated my browser’s spell check. cheers

Randy January 10, 2019 at 7:24 PM

Those are the ones that can be cut with a saw.

Rollo Tomasi January 10, 2019 at 7:54 PM

Leave it to Randy to miss the point as badly as Acosta does.

Original G January 10, 2019 at 9:00 PM

Rollo Tomasi … Think of him as revealing insight into a liberal mind with each post. Perhaps he might be able to a Med student working on their Doctorate Thesis over at University of California, San Francisco Langley Porter.

Randy January 10, 2019 at 4:04 PM

Who is paying for trump’s 17 attorney legal defense team that will tie the courts in knots. I think it’s us.

Original G January 10, 2019 at 5:02 PM

Who paid for clinton’s attorneys and hush money and lawsuit settlements and obama’s lawyers ?

Justifiable anger January 10, 2019 at 6:12 PM

I am pretty angry about the Mueller team expenses. Then there is what started it all, the phony document Obama paid for, that started the whole scam.

What about four months of that Blasey-Ford BS?

Do I need to mention the hundreds of BILLONS spent on illegal aliens? How many college educations for American youth would that pay for???

Fred P. January 10, 2019 at 4:13 PM

The Secure Fence Act of 2006

The Secure Fence Act of 2006, which was passed by a Republican Congress and signed by President George W. Bush, authorized about 700 miles of fencing along certain stretches of land between the border of the United States and Mexico.

The act also authorized the use of more vehicle barriers, checkpoints and lighting to curb illegal immigration, and the use of advanced technology such as satellites and unmanned aerial vehicles.

At the time the act was being considered, Barack Obama, Hillary Clinton and Chuck Schumer were all members of the Senate.

Obama, Clinton, Schumer and 23 other Democratic senators voted in favor of the act when it passed in the Senate by a vote of 80 to 19.

At that time, they were DEMANDING the wall.

Now? They’re just a bunch of sore losers….and hypocrites.

mtzman January 11, 2019 at 1:24 PM

No, Fred, just like your president, you are a liar. Fencing along a portion of the border is NOT the 30-foot high impenetrable concrete wall along the entire border that Trump keeps whining about, and both he and you know it.

Randy January 10, 2019 at 9:02 PM

Warning: The following will suck IQ points out of your head:

“They say a wall is medieval. Well, a wheel is older than a wall,” Trump said, though the earliest known border wall is actually thousands of years older than the wheel. “And I looked, and every single car out there, even the really expensive ones that the Secret Service uses — and believe me they are expensive — I said, ‘Do they all have wheels?’ ‘Yes.’ ‘Oh. I thought it was medieval.’”

He continued: “The wheel is older than the wall. You know that? There are some things that work. A wheel works and a wall works.”

Justifiable anger January 11, 2019 at 11:29 AM

I’m waiting to find out what our old school social democrats will do when their younger replacement Fascists gain control.

Giddyup January 11, 2019 at 12:54 PM

Is that your excuse, Randy?

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