The Water Cooler – Common Core – Is It Good Or Bad?

December 6, 2018 12:00 pm · 26 comments

The “Water Cooler” is a feature on Claycord.com where we ask you a question or provide a topic, and you talk about it.

The “Water Cooler” will be up Monday-Friday at noon.

In your opinion, are the common core standards good or bad for children? Also, do you think your child’s homework is more challenging than it used to be?

Talk about it….

Clayton Mom December 6, 2018 at 12:42 PM

I understand that they want the kids to understand why you put the zero on the second line of doing a multiplication problem that is two numbers multiplied by two numbers, but the three to five ways they are showing the kids to do that type of multiplication just confuses them. Have them do it one way, learn it well, and don’t be afraid of rote memorization when it comes to multiplication!

S December 6, 2018 at 12:55 PM

Bad. State to State, District to District, School to School, Teacher to Teacher… All have different interpretations of it. “Academic Freedom” and UNIONS negate all of it.

A Teacher December 6, 2018 at 9:45 PM

How are unions ruining the “academic freedom” in your opinion? Last time I was informed, our union doesn’t inform us what or how to teach anything.

S December 7, 2018 at 6:31 AM

did not say the unions ruin A F. Teachers do as the want under A F, then the Unions support it… just listen to your union member naysayers in ur meetings… if u are one of them… u just dont see it.

Follow the Money December 7, 2018 at 9:59 AM

I’m not quite sure what you are saying.

Is Common Core bad in an of itself, or do you believe it is good but academic freedom is not letting it do its job?

And as far as academic freedom goes- how much academic freedom do you think a state, district, teacher should have?

S December 8, 2018 at 3:26 PM

Well,we know what has been happening before common core (past 20 years or so) hasn’t worked. It is hard to tell if C C is solid within itself. There is no consistency interpreting it, so there is no consistency in its implementation. Academic Freedom when it is failing our kids (and right now that seems to be the case) needs limitations. It’s nice here to have this conversation and share opinions. Most other site just are people calling folks out….

I am going to make another post; not part of this specific conversation, but for the article … Please enjoy it in the humor that is intended.

woody December 6, 2018 at 1:09 PM

Learning a different way to look at numbers CAN be beneficial.

Happy Squash December 6, 2018 at 1:09 PM

I think the Common Core has been overall a big improvement. I have two children currently in MDUSD: one that started under the old curriculum and switch to CC around 4th grade and another child that has been under CC through all years so far. CC really emphasizes working in groups, and explaining your work, not just memorizing stuff. Homework seems to be more engaging and not too overwhelming. It is clear that my children can both to math in their head fairly quickly, and they both grasp math concepts very well. I think CC was a good move that is preparing my children better for the future workplace than the prior curriculum was.

RandomKindness December 6, 2018 at 1:39 PM
Susan I. December 10, 2018 at 10:06 AM

That article is from 2017.

Michael December 6, 2018 at 1:41 PM

Total failure. Considering Silicon Valley has been short on qualified employees for the past 20 years I would like to know their explanation of what other countries are doing that we have still not adopted yet in the USA standard curriculm.

With more countries including England adopting Asian styles of math “Singapore”, “Chinese” “Indian” “Vietnamese” and “Japan”. Vietnam has 3 dimensional geometry as a minimum requirement while Japan uses more of a problem solving student collaboration of all of the students working together so that all students must pass before moving on to the next concept.

The Know December 6, 2018 at 2:40 PM

Will common core get future youth out of the parents home by 30 year old? Or will it teach at 40? Will common core teach how to live independently? Ok no. So no.

Bancroft Mom December 6, 2018 at 2:49 PM

The jury is still out. I do know it requires several glasses of wine to assist the children with their math 🤣🤣🤣🤣.

Ricardoh December 6, 2018 at 3:44 PM

New math, Common core, Numbers are numbers and if you try to add to that people get confused. You don’t need tricks to learn math you just have to think. There are good tricks to learn after you learn the basics of adding, subtracting, multiplying. and dividing. Make sure your kids learn the times tables as well as they know their name and after that they will have few problems.

Common UGH December 6, 2018 at 3:54 PM

If you have to point to youtube videos and classes for us parents to understand common core…then that should say it all. It is a horrible way to learn..so much that I teach my kids the way we all learned and then explain how to ‘explain’ their work for common core…dumb.

ZZ December 6, 2018 at 4:36 PM

It is horrible! Spending 15 minutes on proving 6×3 with dots and cutting out shapes is so ridiculous! So many unnecessary extra steps. Kids lose interest quickly and start acting up. The reading is either way over their head or way below.

Atticus Thraxx December 6, 2018 at 5:19 PM

I have no idea what common core is but I’m against it. Sounds commie.

Joe December 6, 2018 at 6:43 PM

Common core sucks!

Yet another stupid idea.

It tried to turn maths into an English lesson.
My kid hated it at Sequoia. Went from loving math class to hating it due to common core.

Joe

Dorothy December 6, 2018 at 7:34 PM

No longer have any school age close family. But I’ve heard some say it’s good, some say it’s bad. I do have a relative that works with young kids and thinks Common Core in her state is good for the kids.

The Fearless Spectator December 6, 2018 at 9:50 PM

This generation has more homework volume than the last. There are elements of common core that make sense. How does it stack up with home schooling tools, such as Star Wars arithmatic books etc.?

Barbie Girl December 7, 2018 at 7:03 AM

Common Core was written by two elitist Yale graduates with no teaching experience. Both my kids went from being great at Math and actually loving it to hating it. Some fabulous teachers had their own style of teaching and realized that every child learns differently, but they had to fall in the Commie Core line or get fired. So they teach to the test to save their jobs. Our Teacher of the Year totally taught to the test. She literally sent home practice tests for homework every week. Some of the best teachers chose to retire early. California is still 10th from the bottom as far as achievement goes.

CDE Watcher December 7, 2018 at 10:14 AM

Always follow the money.

States and Districts who want financial support from the federal government must toe the line. In recent times this included Common Core. If your local school district underperforms there is no choice. Failure already occurs, and status quo cannot be upheld. Many States have tweaked Common Core curriculum to better serve their students. However, California is drastically behind east coast States. That is purely due to California being a local control State. Everything takes much longer including getting ESSA and State policies approved and aligned. Meanwhile teachers are dragged around not knowing what current policy is. Teachers are fleeing California for a better cost of living and stable standards. California is moving rapidly toward online public funded schools.

S December 8, 2018 at 3:30 PM

this article is off the splash page; I hope you all see this post.

Please watch the two clips in full…. They are funny and are clean family entertainment. Each is about 3 minutes long… Enjoy:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M2_kQ1Bf1js

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MS2aEfbEi7s

MDUSD TEACH December 9, 2018 at 11:19 PM

Common core is nothing but good teaching strategies that help students actually understand what they are doing, and to prove their answers. If you think it’s a conspiracy, then I’m sorry, but you’re a nut.

Fred P. December 10, 2018 at 7:25 AM

“nothing but good teaching strategies?”

“…you’re a nut?”

Keep drinking the koolaid, “mdusd teach”.

My kids went through the “normal” math programs years and years ago. They loved it and did great at it. Their neighbors’ kids are going through the “common core” math and they HATE it; their parents hate it, and my kids (grown) can’t stand it.

As Tom Lehrer said decades ago about “new math”….. the important thing is to understand what you’re doing rather than to get the right answer. And that was before calculators.

Susan I. December 10, 2018 at 10:04 AM

Fred P… why so negative.. kids need to understand HOW to get to the answer so they can continue applying those same principals to other areas of their lives. You often what people to think critically, yet you don’t support the best practices to get them there. Maybe instead of complaining you should all go into the teaching profession? You wouldn’t last a week.

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