Group Looks To Ban Gas Powered Leaf Blowers In Walnut Creek

December 6, 2018 14:00 pm · 118 comments

A group is looking to ban gas powered leaf blowers in the City of Walnut Creek, according to an online petition.

The group, which calls itself “Walnut Creek CALM”, said “Gas leaf blowers have been banned in 25 California cities for their excessive noise, horrendous pollution and terrible health impacts to the community and the workers who operate them. Walnut Creek prides itself as a sustainable, livable community, yet we continue to allow the use of this dangerous equipment in our schools, public spaces and neighborhoods.”

“We are petitioning the City Council to follow 25 other California cities and ban the operation of gas powered leaf blowers in our community to improve our health, our air and our quality of life,” the group said.

QUESTION: Do you think gas powered leaf blowers should be banned?

The Know December 6, 2018 at 2:15 PM

Anyone remember the days people used to use the sucking of leafs and debris instead of blow them? Never liked the blowers doesn’t make much sense. I don’t think they can ban them, a certain time frame they can be used. This is pretty sad. They cause a lot of environmental pollution.

Dood December 6, 2018 at 3:01 PM

How about a rake? Burn carbohydrates instead, leave suckers aren’t any better for the environment than a blower.

Nunya December 6, 2018 at 4:01 PM

the idiots who run this state banned plastic straws, they can do anything (stupid)

Mick Marin December 6, 2018 at 4:22 PM

Hey Nunya, your comment is more than enough proof that you actually are the stupidest one.

Forsythe December 6, 2018 at 5:38 PM

Most people use rakes AND blowers. There is a reason for this. They have trees. Trees shed leaves in the fall.

Here’s a solution: don’t ban blowers, ban fall.

Think of it: Winter, Summer, Spring. It would all be so much easier.

And, here’s another ingenious idea: encourage people to cut down their trees.

That would get to the root of the problem.

Mark December 6, 2018 at 2:19 PM

Silly people should be banned. Anything we do that slows down a contractor or increases the cost to a contractor is passed along to all of us. Should we ban cars and trucks in WC too?

Rob December 6, 2018 at 3:12 PM

If the cars and trucks were as loud as leaf blowers next door – yes, ban them also.

ME December 6, 2018 at 2:19 PM

This is called a FIRST WORLD PROBLEM.

Natalie December 6, 2018 at 2:23 PM

Yes they should be banned. The electric ones should be banned too. These things are loud, kick up dust everywhere, and are pointless. Most of the time these things aren’t even used for leaves, but are used to rid areas of dirt and dust – it’s strange to see people try to clean the outdoors.

If you have leaves to clear out, use a rake; it’s faster and more.efficient. If you must clear a walkway of debris, then use a broom.

AnonZ December 7, 2018 at 4:52 AM

It’s pretty hard to rake leaves out of rock.

Common Sense December 6, 2018 at 2:30 PM

You can do the same thing with a rake, broom and a dustpan. Not much noise and you get a little more exercise.

Not So Much December 6, 2018 at 2:43 PM

Um…. they raking leaves off of wood bark chips or shredded bark. Not so much.

AnonZ December 7, 2018 at 4:53 AM

Or rocked areas. Rakes don’t work.

Freeman December 7, 2018 at 6:55 AM

You can say the same think about all tools. Why should contractors be allowed to use excavators? Just use a shovel and get a little more exercise.

Kentucky Derby December 6, 2018 at 2:35 PM

No. Gardeners and homeowners are just doing their job. If you’re annoyed, close your windows or ignore it. If you’re worried about pollution, a lot of things cause pollution. Quit whining.

RSD December 6, 2018 at 7:44 PM

Kentucky, I agree. Find something worthwhile to demonize. Most of the whiners most likely have a yard that looks like the Munsters.

AnonZ December 7, 2018 at 4:55 AM

Agreed Kentucky Derby.

When they find other ways to ban, or make large companies pay for their pollution, you can then start on the “little guys”.

dawg December 6, 2018 at 2:36 PM

Good, they should be banned statewide. They throw rocks around and cause damage to a car’s paint job. Most leaf blower operators I’ve seen are inexperienced and will not stop when a pedestrian is walking by or a car is driving by. They also blow debris around parking lots and don’t care if they damage a parked car.

Law Dog December 6, 2018 at 2:40 PM

What’s next, Hair Dryers ?

Ted December 6, 2018 at 4:34 PM

Do you use a leaf blower in your bathroom?

Law Dog December 7, 2018 at 8:04 AM

Ted, No, but I do use a Hair Dyer for leaf’s

Not So Much December 6, 2018 at 2:44 PM

Um…. they raking leaves off of wood bark chips or shredded bark. Not so much.

TOB December 6, 2018 at 2:49 PM

We talking cars or blowers. Just the same. Will these same people complaining of blowers about quality of life now bike to work? Should we have to listen to their noise. Breath their pollution from their own cars they drive. Do teachers/parents and kids drive to work? “HOW” do you separate the pollution from cars vs. blowers. Lame justification. What about your lawn mower, pressure washer etc. Could go on and on.

This is nothing more than someone using BS to try and ban because they don’t like the noise near their home because they live near a school, park or parking lot. Only shows 25 more ignorant cities being over governed.

If you truly cared about air in your area, don’t burn wood. You will though! Somehow that is ok to contribute to air but a blower making noise near you for 15 min is somehow dangerous? Honestly would think lawn mower more dangerous as it could throw an object at someone on top of all the points made. Don’t micro manage the air to get your way. It does nothing for kids etc as group says. Just so others know I’m ok with wood burning was just making a point. Can’t pick and choose what elements in air. Blowers are about noise, group over shot.

Had this group stuck with noise, I might feel differently. They spewed ignorance so NO.

Original G December 6, 2018 at 2:54 PM

OK, so what is to prevent gardeners from starting up a portable generator on their vehicle, plugging in an extension cord and using a 110 Vac leaf blower???

Lou December 6, 2018 at 2:59 PM

How many people are in these groups?
Will counsel’s members act on any groups demand?
If so why do we need them, Let the mob rule

Side-Line Critic December 6, 2018 at 3:06 PM

Am pretty sure gas-powered leaf blowers are covered under the 2nd Amendment. Mow-Blow-‘n Go…!!

Rob December 6, 2018 at 3:12 PM

Gas Leaf Blowers are the worst…

Get a Rake – get some Exercise and make President Trump proud with some mad raking skills.

AnonZ December 7, 2018 at 4:57 AM

I want to see Rob using a rake on my rocked and barked yard. Good luck smart boy!

Concord Mike December 7, 2018 at 8:36 AM

The unintended consequence? Fewer trees in urban areas. Too expensive to rake and sweep. Leaving leaves on a public sidewalk is not an option due to slip and fall risk.

Pass that law and and you will start hearing the sound of chain saws.

All the beautiful pavers and cobblestone driveways and walkways? Need blowers for those too.

Ben Backwireds December 6, 2018 at 3:14 PM

Sure, lets ban them. Then we can rake big piles of leaves and burn them instead.

Smith December 6, 2018 at 6:35 PM

Don’t burn the leaves. They make an excellent addition to your compost pile. You remember compost, don’t you? It’s that accumulation of yard debris that you turn regularly which eventually makes new, super-rich, packed-with-nutrients soil for your garden. Your plants will love it.

ClayDen December 6, 2018 at 3:22 PM

Even though they probably emit more pollution than a modern IC auto, I doubt the total amount of pollution they emit is even measurable. I’m OK with them as long as they aren’t used before around 8:30AM. Are we going to ban IC engine powered lawnmowers too????? I don’t think so.

Smith December 6, 2018 at 7:01 PM

The pollution from the gas engine is only a fraction of the problem. Leaf blowers are putting anything that has fallen onto the ground and desiccated over the lifetime of the planet into the atmosphere for you to breathe. That includes animal droppings, both wild and domesticated, molds, mildew, bacteria, dead animals, etc., etc. Anything that has fallen onto the ground and dried up. Considering that cattle once grazed the area, there is a good possibility that anthrax spores are present in that cloud, as well as other bacteria. Think about it.

Leaf blowers also disturb the top soil, blowing it away. Over years seeing what happened to my own yard with a weekly gardener using a leaf blower, the healthy, rich topsoil which had been formed from years of vegetation dacay undisturbed on the ground gave way to large areas of compacted red clay, difficult to dig and poor in nutrients for planting,

I came around the corner one day and turned onto my street and entered a veritable cloud of this stuff being made airborne by one of the gardeners at a neighbors house. It was a visible brown cloud of all the stuff that had dried up around their property made airborne not just for the man using the leaf blower to inhale, but all the neighbors, as well.

That was just one house. For every house on the street that has a gardener, that means that practically every weekday there is at least one leaf blower keeping that stuff in the air. Some days, it’s morning and afternoon. On a windy day, your top soil may end up in the next city. Leaf blowers are not healthy for many reasons.

AnonZ December 7, 2018 at 4:59 AM

REPLY TO SMITH: What goes up must come down.

Silva December 7, 2018 at 5:16 AM

Driving through the aforemtioned clouds of dust, we always close the windows and vents so as I can breathe, but it still sticks all over the car until you get home too.

Same December 6, 2018 at 3:22 PM

We should ban deciduous trees and make Walnut Creek an exclusively coniferous city.

Pffff December 6, 2018 at 3:37 PM

Lawnmowers are Next??

Pied December 6, 2018 at 3:43 PM

Noisy – hate the sound of them
Two-stroke engines which make needless pollution
Move leaves and dust from one place to the next – and get pollen and dust on all the cars nearby

F’n hate those things

GregTheelder December 6, 2018 at 3:44 PM

You mean they don’t want their living rooms to sound like a motorcross rally everyday of the week? How dare they!! Please ban them in Pleasant Hill too.

Edi December 6, 2018 at 4:28 PM

I’m sure that will be next, please sign to show how it can be done!

Sign me up ! December 6, 2018 at 3:48 PM

Every freaking day all you hear in the neighborhood are these damn noisemakers! There is no peace and quiet anymore. The dirt thrown in the air is ridiculous as well. Go back to good old exercise with a broom and dustpan !

Snorkers December 6, 2018 at 3:51 PM

Yes! 6:15 am … Concord Civic Center … *Every Morning*!!!

KenInConcord December 6, 2018 at 4:04 PM

I totall agree!! For the sake of our beautiful city We need to ban noisy leaf blowers!! Stop the huuuuummmm hum roar of the equipment!!

Unessessary noise is just another form of pollution, loud noise like:
Mustang Cars
Electric blowers
Harley Davidsons Motorcycles
Street sweepers
Children playing
High school football games
Lawn mowers
Power washers
Barking dogs
Bicycle bells
Ambulances
Neighbors car starting in the driveway
Fire engines
Garbage trucks
Wind chimes
Crows in the trees
Squirrels chattering
Humming birds buzzing past my chair
Non-electric car
Cats meowing
Electric cars
Doves Coooing

It all needs to go!!!

Little Toe December 6, 2018 at 4:11 PM

Not to mention those rowdy soccer parents cheering for their kids so loud that I can hear it through my open window! Animals I tell you!

Cryin' Chuck December 6, 2018 at 4:22 PM

LMAO!

Atticus Thraxx December 6, 2018 at 5:17 PM

Doves Coooing? Boo hiss. In my top 10 favorite sounds on earth! 🙂

Mimi reed December 6, 2018 at 5:47 PM

@kenlnconcord for president

Little Toe December 6, 2018 at 4:08 PM

All these broom and dustpan comments are cracking me up. Those of us who have oak trees of a certain size on our property who are not allowed to take them down because they are tagged protected have a nightmares worth of leaves to deal with. Raking and dust panning isn’t going to cut it. I’d love to remove all these leaf dropping trees and replace with evergreen trees.

Silva December 6, 2018 at 8:24 PM

Evergreen trees drop their leaves. They don’t drop them all at the same time, but instead they drop leaves throughout the whole year.

BF December 6, 2018 at 8:34 PM

Go for it, my pine trees drop 10x the amount all year long. Just once a year would be amazing.

Littletoe December 7, 2018 at 6:34 AM

I have a few evergreens of different varieties too. Their droppings are totally manageable and nothing compared to the volume from those darn oaks.

Jojo Potato December 7, 2018 at 10:29 AM

Those “dam” oaks were here first. If you look at old pictures of the area it was mostly grasslands with scattered oaks. Right now 356 people have “signed” this petition out of a population of 69,773.. That’s about 0.5%. I hope the city ignores this stupidity.

Jack's Fan December 6, 2018 at 4:16 PM

Not a fan of leaf blowers, but look at the list of California cities which have banned them already and it tells you a lot. Maybe this group could use their time to develop a solution, rather than try to force through another law to be enforced.

Smith December 6, 2018 at 7:03 PM

Leaf suckers.

Original G December 6, 2018 at 4:23 PM

Would everybody be happy if instead there was a mandate on maximum noise or decibel level the equipment could produce? Isn’t the real problem the noise produced by outdoor equipment ? ? ? ?

Manufacturers have ZERO incentive at this point to make a quieter product.
Give them an incentive to race among themselves to make quieter products.

Edi December 6, 2018 at 4:24 PM

When the fires were blazing and it was difficult to breathe my home was surrounded by leafblowers on all sides due to the careless neighbors hiring them without regard for anyone else. Where is the common sense? The workers shouldn’t have even been outside let alone in the horrible air quality blowing gas, debris and pet feces.

Chicken Little December 7, 2018 at 7:51 AM

If you think the leaf blowers added any measurable pollution to the air during that time, you’re not very bright. I suppose you think firefighters shouldn’t be allowed to use chainsaws to fight wildfires, either. And some people need to work to pay their bills. They can’t just take a couple of weeks off because it’s smoky outside.

Edi December 7, 2018 at 4:06 PM

I was concerned with what was being blown at my house, my health as well as those around me and the workers themselves. I see a trend where the people in favor make rational comments and the others make personal attacks. Keep up the good work!!

Edi December 6, 2018 at 4:26 PM

When workers are out in full force on spare the air days and during a statewide wild fire, not to mention at 2:30 am downtown, something needs to be done AND fast.

Cellophane December 6, 2018 at 4:31 PM

No.

The government should not ban anything.

The government should work on alternative solutions and help the small businesses adapt to the changing priorities of the people.

But the ban will go through and businesses will suffer, all because a few people are annoyed.

Liz K December 6, 2018 at 4:51 PM

I don’t understand people who makes fun of banning leaf blowers or are even against it. Sometimes there are 4 or 5 of them blowing at the same time, all apart a few yards from each other. At 6 am in the morning! And it is everyday!

Each apartment, businesses or even WC city itself hires a leaf blower who comes whenever they want and works as long as they want. I am guessing hourly paid workers!

How hard it is to understand who has a legitimate reason to be disturbed by the noise leaf blowers are causing? Do you want us to be just keep being disturbed and try not to change it?

Alex Muhanoff December 6, 2018 at 5:06 PM

My wife and I have been down on the blowers for a while. The guys who use them where we live no longer gather the leaves; they just blow them into the street or onto the neighbors’ lawns, etc. and zoom away. The wind often just blows the stuff back also. Net result: temporary “relocating” of the leaves in the immediate area. Extra “benefits”: Noise pollution and air pollution. The “landscapers”, renamed by us the “blow and go guys”, probably have a lot of clients and can’t be bothered to pick up and take away the leaves . ( which they used to do ). It’s all the same up and down our street. Hope your area is different. We wish everyone would give up on the blowers.

Anon December 6, 2018 at 5:19 PM

GOOD! Like most things they have abused their “welcome”. I can see why Orinda banned them……that would be All you would hear All day long over there, no thanks.

And yeah, just like the coal burning steam locomotive – the gas leaf blower is a dinosaur.

Shhhhh December 6, 2018 at 5:32 PM

I’m glad people are fed up with the incessant air and noise pollution of leaf blowers and though I wish they would ban them altogether banning the gas ones is a step in the right directiion. Battery and corded options don’t stink and are quieter. I can’t even open my windows without hearing one or more in my neighborhood at any time of day. For the people who are feigning concern about how the landscapers will suffer, they are suffering now from the exhaust, noise and vibration.

Original G December 6, 2018 at 5:54 PM

After quick search, appears industry has made a quiet leaf blower. So if city sets a decibel level or specifies certain models . . .

“The quietest leaf blower currently available is the Echo Leaf Blower, which generates only 65 decibels. This blower is also free of the high-pitched whine that most leaf blowers produce.

Echo is a company that has spent years developing quieter leaf blowers.”
https://reactual.com/home-and-garden/quietest-leaf-blower-2017.html
Watch the video in the page.

The Fearless Spectator December 6, 2018 at 6:03 PM

Go stand on any corner of Ygnacio Valley Rd and breath. It’s like hundreds of leaf blowers going by every minute. These people don’t like the noise and are using environmental concerns as a way to sell this legislation. In case they haven’t noticed, electric leaf blowers are not silent.

A lleaf blower is dangerous equipment? No, a teenager behind the wheel is dangerous equipment. Gonna ban that too?

The “Walnut Creek Calm” cult needs to chill out.

Habaneroe December 6, 2018 at 6:09 PM

What most here seem ignorant of – its NOT just noise and scratched cars – those things stir up CARBON particles from the asphalt that are inhaled and those are particularly bad (no pun) for you.

Is this a ioke December 6, 2018 at 6:17 PM

Lol. Do Walnut Creek people have nothing else going on. Are they planning on paying their Gardner’s more to buy a more environmentally friendly leaf blower? Doubt that. Temporary problems that get forgotten about once all the leaves are gone.

BF December 6, 2018 at 8:45 PM

Rakes are way more environmentally friendly leaf blowers and are much cheaper to buy and maintain, no fuel needed other then the “old fashioned” work everyone used to do. Way better for everyone.

S. Hawking December 6, 2018 at 6:49 PM

Obviously Liberals do not think these things through. So ban a little gas motor and require everyone to use electric ones…brilliant huh? The largest percentage of electric production in America is from coal fired power plants. Use batteries they say…OK, well increase the heavy equipment used to mine lead and lithium, which will more that increase the pollution a tiny little Harbor Freight motor would cause. No, let’s just admit what is staring everyone right in the face. Liberals are totalitarians and it could never be clearer.

BF December 6, 2018 at 8:41 PM

Umm, a rake lasts several years and most people can use one, fiberglass handles, recycled steel tines nowadays…you know, like everyone did for centuries…helped prevent all kinds of diseases and ailments….

Pyrrhus December 7, 2018 at 8:41 AM

Yeah, this isn’t about liberals or pollution. This is about some grumpy busy body people that want to make everyone else suffer because their poor baby is taking a nap or the old person can’t hear the TV. They are just using pollution and health concerns to make it seem like they aren’t being selfish.

Couch Tomato December 7, 2018 at 12:38 PM

Coal represents less than 1% of power generation in California. The biggest source is natural gas (43%).

Reference: https://www.eia.gov/electricity/data/state/

Frito Bandito December 6, 2018 at 6:53 PM

Reminds Me of several years ago in Marin County where they had this controversy…Rich Gringos were on tv holding signs saying: “Brooms equal Jobs for Hispanics”!

JESSICA December 6, 2018 at 6:53 PM

It’s your right to make loud noise and pollute as you please, I get it. Your neighbors probably love you.

I just read there is a city hall gathering Dec 18 at 6pm for those who want to address this issue which is long overdue.

I’d like to know what the resentment is against Walnut Creek. Many of us have lived here since long before it became an expensive place to live. And happen to stay because we can’t afford to move or even renovate. Back when there was no Neiman Marcus and parking was easy. The problem is how fast it has grown. Most of these people are not neccessarily rich or entitled or bored or hippie or white or any of the things that people would like to believe when pertinent issues are raised.

For those of you against this, may you have a leafblower outside your windows every morning at 4am.

Rollo Tomasi December 7, 2018 at 11:07 AM

“For those of you against this, may you have a leafblower outside your windows every morning at 4am.”

Not only impolite, but also a violation of an existing local ordinance.

“g. Maintenance Equipment. The use and operation of any noise-creating commercial or residential landscaping or home maintenance equipment or tools including, but not limited to, hammers, blowers, trimmers, mowers, chainsaws, power fans or any engine, the operation of which causes noise due to the explosion of operating gases or fluids, other than between the hours of 8:00 a.m. and 7:00 p.m. on weekdays and 9:00 a.m. and 7:00 p.m. on weekends and holidays. (§1, Ord. 1753, eff. November 8, 1990)”

YES December 6, 2018 at 6:55 PM

Its about damn time!!!

Michael December 6, 2018 at 10:16 PM

The noise I can handle it’s the blowing the leaves into the middle of the street so it drifts into the neighbors yard that gets me. That and they end up just blowing dust with rodent feces during Winter, Spring and Summer months. I can’t believe we have not had more instances of Valley Fever since they were put into use.

Ricardoh December 7, 2018 at 12:38 AM

Mostly I use the lawn mower to pick up and bag the leaves it does great. Then you have a broom and a rake and also use an electric blower that works slower than gas but not that much slower. It is noisy but not as noisy as a gas blower. My neighbor has a gardener who usually blows dust into my back yard with a gas blower. I am sort of against banning things. My neighbors gardener is a bother but only for five minutes.

Justsaying December 7, 2018 at 12:48 AM

Wow, your giving a bigger motive for people to buy a portable fuse motor which is much more louder just to connect there electrical leaf blowers. You should just stop making the city look like a laughing stock. People always complain, can’t satisfy everyone.

Wow December 7, 2018 at 12:52 AM

Here come the portable gas generators!! Super loud. Can’t satisfy everyone. You band something people will find an alternative way to continue making noise!

AnonZ December 7, 2018 at 5:07 AM

For all the GENUIS’S replying use a rake…… They DO NOT work on rock and barked areas.

If you think different, be at my house tomorrow morning for yard work. You can help rake all the leaves in my yard (we have NO trees) that come from all my neighbor’s trees!

Roz December 7, 2018 at 12:41 PM

I hear you on this,…plus the neighbors(hood) trees.

For those who don’t have yardwork, help someone do theirs.
Try cleaning leaves off a roof of a house with a rake or broom,…right?
Try picking out leaves from a rose bush by hand,…dare you!
Could use a shop vac,…oh wait,…going to ban those too.

Smith December 7, 2018 at 2:15 PM

Somehow mankind managed without them prior to their invention.

Big Rob December 7, 2018 at 6:27 AM

I take care of a 24 acre community. The blowers are a essential part of that work. The length of time to clean the place probably would more than triple the time to do so without the blowers. Guess who’s going to foot the bill for the extra labor? And not to mention clogged sewers to boot! Gotta be a better way!

Campdakota December 7, 2018 at 8:05 AM

🙄 😗💨🍂🍁🍂🍁

Anon December 7, 2018 at 9:36 AM

What about performing the work or certain days of the week as they do with street sweeping and garbage collection.

This needs to be addressed because it has gotten out of hand with these leaf blowers.

Randy December 7, 2018 at 9:39 AM

Impossible to enforce. People will ignore it and the police won’t respond. Waste of time and resources.

Rollo Tomasi December 7, 2018 at 9:42 AM

Typical shortsightedness. Have these people not considered the impact this would have on our illegal population and their ability to make their alleged enormous contribution to our economy that we’re not allowed to question?

Danielle Moser December 7, 2018 at 9:58 AM

We love trees and our property is surrounded by them. I am almost 70 and my husband almost 80, this time of year we are out there every few days taking leaves. With a large rake it really goes very fast. Last Sunday our neighbor’s Hispanic leaf blowers were here at 8AM, it’s madness. In my neighborhood the leaf blowers are here seven days a week, and you can pretty much hear them all day. There is no such thing as having a nice peaceful day in your garden anymore, those days are gone. No wonder people are killing each other left and right, lack of peace and quiet, equals insanity.

Rollo Tomasi December 7, 2018 at 10:54 AM

Are the non-Hispanic leaf blowers noisy too?

LimeRidge Larry December 7, 2018 at 2:06 PM

Danielle,

I’m confused by something in your post. I’ve never heard of a leaf blower having a race (I thought they were just machines). Do you mean the gardeners using the leaf blowers were Hispanic? If so, would you have been ok if they were not Hispanic?

-LRL

Smith December 7, 2018 at 2:17 PM

And, yet, we wonder why the air over Mexico City is so polluted.

Forsythe December 7, 2018 at 10:18 AM

Leaves tend to fall during the busiest time of the year–during the Holiday months.

In the spirit of Christmas, the complainers could consider accommodating their gardening neighbors, by using ear plugs, ear buds, or wireless headsets during the five to twenty minutes it takes to use a blower.

Gardeners–adopt a slogan: “rake leaves more, blow leaves less”.

Another slogan “don’t rake, mulch”.
https://www.scotts.com/en-us/library/lawn-care-basics/dont-rake-those-leaves-mulch-them-your-lawn

Dr. Jellyfinger December 7, 2018 at 10:21 AM

If we are going to whine about such insignificant things lets start with those cars with the blaring, pounding, vibrating sound systems which annoy us all!
At least leaf blowers serve a valid purpose , those sound systems exist simply to satisfy some desperate need for attention, much like the constant engine revving that motorcycle riders find so necessary. So if we are going to be whiners…. let us get our priorities straight!

Spark Baldman December 7, 2018 at 10:34 AM

OMG just stop. So tired of a few people complaining that something bothers them and trying to put a ban on it. Seriously chill out
A 1944 Xmas song- Lyrics bother you? Ban it
Leaf blowers make too much noise? Ban em
Leaf blowers cause bad air quality? Ban em
Dogs are annoying? Ban Dogs
People on cell phones too often? Ban them
People dont like children? Ban em

How bout ban the banning. Happy Holidays everyone

Rollo Tomasi December 8, 2018 at 9:45 AM

“How bout ban the banning. Happy Holidays everyone”

Now there’s a ban that I’ll support.

Chicken Little December 7, 2018 at 11:04 AM

The real problem is the people who choose to live in the city, but then complain about the noise, smells, etc.

If you want peace, quiet, and fresh air, build a house on 1000 acres in the middle of nowhere.

Anon December 7, 2018 at 12:30 PM

Doesn’t work either because you’ll have the airplanes over your house or the sight seeing joy flyers……like we get courtesy of Buchanan.

Cowellian December 7, 2018 at 12:53 PM

Buchanan was there first.

Anon December 7, 2018 at 3:07 PM

Cowellian,
MAJORITY RULES.

Worry about Tennessee and leave us alone.

Cowellian December 7, 2018 at 4:33 PM

Ah Ha!
That was you.
Thanks for playing.

WC Resident December 7, 2018 at 11:29 AM

Rather than a ban I would like to see decibel level limits. Gardener services handle the house next door and across the street. I can barely hear their blowers from inside the house.

Yesterday morning I heard a loud droning/hum. I was puzzled, thought it was something inside the house, and investigated. I found that the noise was coming from outside. It was a gardener three houses over whose leaf blower was so loud it was painful from about 200 feet away when I was outside. When I first heard the noise from inside the sounds were muffled by several rows of bushes, trees, a two story house, 180 feet of distance, and the walls/double pane windows of my house.

Randy December 7, 2018 at 1:42 PM

Painful? Really from 200 feet away. Did your knees buckle and fall to the ground?

Me December 7, 2018 at 11:53 AM

For example From Pleasant Hill’s ordinance – https://www.codepublishing.com/CA/PleasantHill/?PleasantHill18/PleasantHill1860.html

H. Machinery, equipment, fans, and air conditioning. It is unlawful for a person to operate machinery, equipment, a pump, fan, air-conditioning apparatus or similar mechanical device in the manner which creates noise, unless the noise is muffled and the device is equipped with a muffler sufficient to deaden the noise.

California Code, Vehicle Code – VEH § 27150 – (a) Every motor vehicle subject to registration shall at all times be equipped with an adequate muffler in constant operation and properly maintained to prevent any excessive or unusual noise, and no muffler or exhaust system shall be equipped with a cutout, bypass, or similar device.

California Code, Vehicle Code – VEH § 27151 – (b) For the purposes of exhaust systems installed on motor vehicles with a manufacturer’s gross vehicle weight rating of less than 6,000 pounds, other than motorcycles, a sound level of 95 dbA or less, when tested in accordance with Society of Automotive Engineers Standard J1169 May 1998, complies with this section.  Motor vehicle exhaust systems or parts thereof include, but are not limited to, nonoriginal exhaust equipment.

There are Decibel meter apps for your mobile device. Most very loud motorcycles for example are over 100dbA and I’ve measured the inside of a Bart train at 95 dbA for short bursts.

Randy December 7, 2018 at 1:44 PM

I’ve never heard of anyone spending time to measure the decibel of sounds. Sounds like an interesting hobby.

Smith December 7, 2018 at 2:27 PM

You are so right. My gardener was blowing all the leaves up into one corner of the yard against the fence where you could not easily see them from the house. When I let them go and started working in the yard myself, I found the pile they had deposited against the fence. Left there, they would have caused the wood fence to rot, but, what the heck. At least they were all neatly deposited in one place. Or, that was their reasoning, I’m guessing.

JG27 AD December 7, 2018 at 2:39 PM

“From my cold, dead hands!!”

Perhaps a 10 day waiting period and background check before any purchase of leaf blowers.

Also, no high volume blowers allowed either !!!!

🙂
AD

Smith December 7, 2018 at 2:46 PM

Alternatives to leaf blowers, actually there are several besides just the rake:

https://dengarden.com/landscaping/Gas-Powered-Leaf-Blowers-Now-Illegal

California cities that have banned lead blowers tend to include a population that is higher income and better educated.

http://files.meetup.com/4709972/Leaf%20Blower%20bans,%20etc.pdf

Leafy December 7, 2018 at 5:52 PM

I have concerns that the government is using this ban as a way to force people to reveal their cognitive capacity. Then they can weed out the population for a sort of natural selection. Clearly the people advocating to ban leaf blowers haven’t had their brains evolve enough from the common ancestor. To think “rake your leaves” “they create pollution” or “I think it’s too noisy” are good arguments for political advocacy clearly indicate an underdeveloped frontal lobe. I guess it’s also associated with sociopathic behavior which explains a lot of California’s political lean.

Smith December 7, 2018 at 6:19 PM

Ultra conservative here and think most of what the left accepts as normal is pure insanity, but this is one thing I can get on boaed with. I don’t care to breathe desiccated bird droppings and dead, dried up Death Cap mushrooms.

WC Resident December 7, 2018 at 6:35 PM

@Leafy – I can’t follow your logic and so need to run some tests. Does proposing “Rake America Great Again” mean someone is unusually stupid or intelligent? Is it evidence for or against sociopathic behavior?

Avacado Dan December 7, 2018 at 6:03 PM

Yes!! Drives me crazy is a guy blowing 5 or 6 leaves into a pile.

BR December 8, 2018 at 6:45 PM

Good for them. Clayton should do it too. Readers, Might I suggest, the best reason to ban them might be that they launch all the dried animal feces on the ground into the air for us to breath rather than have the rain wash it away. Luckily, I don’t suffer from moderate to severe allergies, those folks do not benefit from all the dust trash being kicked up, the trees do them in already, so maybe that could be second. Third and my biggie might be the noise that to some is like gansta rap and chainsaws combined with Nancy P speeches. Forth, the exhaust, from these demons is noxious, worse if the gas is bad and the oil mix is wrong or the carburetor mix is off. That is far worse for you than two chain-smokers living next door blowing it into your yard on purpose, it has no emissions control like a cigarette filter. Let us not forget that the fuel used is maybe salvaged from old junked cars and could also be agricultural grade not for use in cities, consider who is using them. Years ago I had a gardener that refused to wear breathing protection for years, even after I offered the N95 a few times. After 7 or so years, he finally started wearing an N100. Hantavirus will kill you. Let me repeat, hantavirus will kill you, look it up. My first 2 cents in public forum ever. Even my cat wants to go in when the leaf blowers in the neighborhood get close or smoke is in the air, she knows better it seems. Happy breathing.

Notaflatearther December 9, 2018 at 12:05 AM

At my mom’s condo complex in WC, the leaf blowers come 3x a week. No money in the association for handicap accessiblity, proper security, balcony rebuilding, but lots of leaf blowing dollars to spend. Try to have a sick day in that condo, work from home, or be a shift worker – the noise is maddening.

Cat December 10, 2018 at 10:54 AM

Gas powered leaf blowers should be allowed if more cost effective for landscapers or school properties. Electric leaf blowers should be encouraged, but remain optional.

What December 10, 2018 at 11:30 AM

If you want to ban blowers then pay your Gardener what you pay your doctor cuz that’s how much it’s going to cost to clean up your house. If it takes your Gardener 1 hour to do the job then I’ll take them three hours without the blower.

Leaf blower December 12, 2018 at 10:50 AM

are we really that bored that we are considering banning leaf blowers because it hurts your ears? How about we address actual issues the city faces like the break-ins that have been happening off of 3rd avenue (I’ve lived in Walnut Creek for 18 years now and lived a relatively quiet life here until the low income housing was built right next to my tool shed). or how about the efficiency of the workers with the necessary tools like leaf blowers such as myself! If this is such an issue, how about you who are complaining, go rake the leaves up yourself and leave me alone in peace and let me do my job and keep the city pretty with maximum effort!

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