The Water Cooler – Ditching The Pledge Of Allegiance At A School Board Meeting

October 11, 2018 12:34 pm · 46 comments

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For the first time in memory, the San Francisco school board bypassed the Pledge of Allegiance at the beginning of its meeting Tuesday night, a purposeful omission by the board’s new president, according to a report in the San Francisco Chronicle. He says he plans to read an inspirational quote at the beginning of each meeting from now on, instead of reciting the pledge.

QUESTION: What’s your opinion on the head of a school district bypassing the pledge of allegiance?

Talk about it…

S October 11, 2018 at 12:50 PM


CDE Watcher October 11, 2018 at 12:59 PM

School boards should pledge allegiance to the public who voted for them as a token reminder of the duties they’re tasked to perform.

Captain Bebops October 11, 2018 at 1:18 PM

I agree. The pledge of allegiance is just a dated ritual anyway and unnecessary for such meetings. IOW, just a form of “flag waving”.

Smith October 11, 2018 at 2:48 PM

“Flag waving,” as you call it, got this country through some very dark moments in U.S. history and was celebrated in Britain, France, Guadalcanal, Seoul, and DaNang, among others, as the symbol of freedom from fascist oppression. It unified minds and hearts both at home and abroad.

Lest we forget, I think a Plege of Allegiance is the least we can do to honor those who fought and died for our freedoms and the freedoms of other under that flag, and our country. It is a simple way we can be reminded and celebrate our unusual gifts. Everyone talks about how divided the country is … well here’s what we did in the past to unify it … we pledged allegiance to the flag, corny as that might sound to you all.

RSD October 11, 2018 at 3:52 PM

The pledge should be respected for the men and women that gave their lives for ours. It’s an old ritual that everyone needs to support regardless of party. If you don’t like it, tough.

Smith October 11, 2018 at 7:28 PM

You sound very jaded< Captain.

RunnerDope October 11, 2018 at 9:47 PM

>> It’s an old ritual that everyone needs to support regardless of party. If you don’t like it, tough.

Says you. The Supreme Court has ruled otherwise.

More SF Crap October 11, 2018 at 1:12 PM

Sounds like he’d just rather hear himself talk, the egotistical commie…

ZZ October 11, 2018 at 1:17 PM

Steven cook is right in there with taking a kneel during the national anthem.

RunnerDope October 11, 2018 at 1:21 PM

When the Pledge of Allegiance is outlawed, only outlaws will recite the Pledge.

Well, at least we’ll have patriotic criminals.

Well then..... October 11, 2018 at 1:22 PM

Tell the commie to move to Venezuela or China or some other hole of a country…..whatever just get out! I’m sick of these people.

Suzanne October 11, 2018 at 1:24 PM

It is, afterall, San Francisco. Funny how some people think they are doing something better and the world will be a better place because of it. And yet, society just keeps degrading further and further. Sometimes, changes aren’t good and you need to leave some symbolic practices alone.

Roz October 11, 2018 at 2:05 PM

Suzanne,…very well stated.
I agree.

Mimi from Mtz October 11, 2018 at 6:32 PM

I wholeheartedly agree. Stop diminishing our country any further…

Sick of it October 11, 2018 at 1:34 PM

What do you expect from those idiots. Number one with poop on there streets. Number one for property crime in the United States. They want to be a third world country more than Americans. Disgusting

Teach October 11, 2018 at 1:57 PM

Funny how all the true ‘Americans’ on here hate freedom. You know, the ‘Damn commies don’t like America and won’t fall in line with what they’re told… Should be a crime! Should be kicked out! Blah, Blah, Blah!!!’

It’s old and tired and I completely out of touch with what actually makes this country different and better, which is the ability to disagree and criticize this country and anyone in it, without fear of punishment.

So… all of you sensitive folks out there that are so upset because someone won’t chant along to your favorite pledge or stand for the anthem, learn some history and gain perspective. While you’re at it stop using the flag as a t-shirt… that is something true patriots are offended by and is very clearly prohibited by flag protocol, FYI.

Tsa October 11, 2018 at 2:17 PM

Unfortunately, people, especially in California, have come to believe that “it’s all about me” is their underlying value. It’s not about being different, it seems to be just about offending others.

RunnerDope October 11, 2018 at 2:18 PM

Well that’s just crazy talk. How are our children going to learn about patriotism if we don’t make them stand at attention and salute our flag every day?

James October 11, 2018 at 2:25 PM

Ah, So you can disagree but others are sensitative? The liberals always come out sounding sensitative but accuse others of the same. It’s just a discussion Teach. I hope He shares the podium with others during this time. Maybe that will be productive.

ZZ October 11, 2018 at 3:00 PM

YOU just don’t get it Teach. Why don’t YOU read some history.

grandmato3 October 11, 2018 at 4:13 PM

I completely agree with Teach. This is a free country and if others think one is not a true patriot just because they don’t do the pledge they DO have a lot to learn. Too many on this site blame Liberals for anything they don’t like. I’ve got news for them, the Republicans are in charge, how’s that working for you?

Savagette October 11, 2018 at 10:36 PM

It’s funny that you mention being able to disagree or criticize without fear of punishment. Is that what all of the liberal “disruptors” were doing at UC Berkeley when several conservative guest speakers were scheduled to come speak last year? No, they started ripping the school to shreds and beating people in the streets. It’s always a double standard with liberals. It’s free speech when they have something to say but when anyone has something to say that doesn’t fit their agenda, it’s fascism and then here come the mobs to the streets. And speaking of history, those who do not learn from history are condemned to repeat it. So all of you good liberals should brush up on your history and start off by picking up a copy of a book called, “Stop Mass Hysteria.” You might actually learn something

Rollo Tomasi October 12, 2018 at 12:40 PM


“the Republicans are in charge, how’s that working for you?”

I’m keeping more of the money I earn, my rights aren’t threatened on a continual basis (by the Feds, anyway), black unemployment is at a record low…you tell me.

Juanita Tibbs October 11, 2018 at 2:01 PM

Awesome! It is about time!!!👍

DummitDowns October 11, 2018 at 2:16 PM

Sf = pro poop, anti American tradition. Keep it up, your city is doing great. Ha!

Cowellian October 11, 2018 at 2:20 PM

Wallowing in poop appears to be a way of life for San Francisco elected officials.

Elwood October 11, 2018 at 2:21 PM

Same old SF commie BS.

So, what else is new?

Smith October 11, 2018 at 2:53 PM

We can only hope SF breaks off and floats to Venezuela during the next “big one.”

The Mamba October 11, 2018 at 2:55 PM

Judging by the state of schools in SF, he won’t be around long.

Kirkwood October 11, 2018 at 3:05 PM

I think displaying patriotism sets a good example for the kids, but in an adult situation, isn’t necessary. If memory serves, we saluted the flag in class through to the 8th grade. In the 7th grade the class also chose and sang a patriotic song.

Dawg October 11, 2018 at 3:20 PM

What saddens me is these people are educated and not stupid, but at the same time they’re too stupid to see how stupid they appear to be.
Pledge allegiance to poop.

DB October 11, 2018 at 3:23 PM

It’s not surprising at all when the SF school board allows illegal aliens to vote in their elections now.

A bunch of October 11, 2018 at 3:36 PM

Not surprising, but what a bunch of crap! Just more left leaning overly PC overly sensitive, country hating non leaders.

RANDOM TASK October 11, 2018 at 3:50 PM

Woah I thought the dems already destroyed any thing American and or related to respecting or being proud of this country

They want to be socialist communists and better than anyone else right

They abolish any form of policing to throw chaos Into the streets so they can then be the so called saviors and Indoctrinate us into believeing they are helping us ( hunger games much)

The dems will soon show their colors I hear bill and Hillary are renting a bus on tax payer money and spewing their rhetoric across this land in a last ditch effort to fulfill their prophesy of America’s internal sappers

JG27 AD October 11, 2018 at 4:14 PM

The Pledge of Allegiance IS an inspirational quote!!
Oh, how they hate this country and all it is founded on.

Keep this type of thinking in mind when you choose your candidate for Governor.


RANDOM TASK October 11, 2018 at 4:15 PM

Well sf has to let illegals vote or the inmates (incumbents)lose

Same As the state they can only win by allowing illegals and criminals to vote …when that doesn’t work they will Allow Canada and Mexico to decide demifornia rule

It’s real simple dems are socialists bent on ruling and power through scare tactics and emplied racism and sensorship through dem controlled media

This is the norm until we the people decide not to be ruled …seems history is repeating itself again

Barbie Girl October 11, 2018 at 5:40 PM

It’s the Poo Poo Capitol of the world, perhaps they should open each meeting with that old camp song “Diarrhea” instead.

Eshaan Chandi October 11, 2018 at 6:43 PM

Even I who was an immigrant to the United States, “documented”….I thoroughly enjoyed the pledge of allegiance. There were great memories in class and it is an important piece of history. In several countries, they sing their anthem every morning….the pledge of allegiance is the least we can do. Whether you are Democrat or Republican, we should stand united.

Deplorable October 14, 2018 at 10:18 AM

And that says it all. The Pledge of Allegiance and the National Anthem are moments designed for us, as Americans, regardless of all that may divide us, to stand united.
United we stand, divided we fall.

Did I say that Outloud October 11, 2018 at 7:31 PM

What do you expect out of SANctuary Francisco ? They are far too busy trying to be so politically correct that the City as a whole is falling apart; social activism is everywhere and the once wonderful place is now turning into a dung heap. So very sad.

Cautiously Informed October 11, 2018 at 7:35 PM

Maybe they should follow the lead of San Francisco politicians and make a pledge of support to criminals, bums and public defecation.

Paladin October 11, 2018 at 11:09 PM

Teach. Who exactly made you the decider of what qualifies as appropriate patriotic response? The flag, the anthem and the pledge are tangible reminders of duty to country and the sacrifice of those who swore to protect it at all costs. If you cannot respond appropriately for any other reason then do so out of respect for those who have sacrificed for you.

RealityCheck October 12, 2018 at 12:57 AM

I think subversive communists (oxymoron?) shouldn’t run out school boards.

Smith October 12, 2018 at 8:34 AM

If he feels so inclined, he should be allowed to quote his mama at school board meetings … right after the Pledge of Allegiance.

Nutcreek Frontier October 12, 2018 at 9:39 AM

What Smith said…bet his Mama would tell him to say the Pledge too.

Foonman October 12, 2018 at 3:45 PM

Inspirational quote from chairman Mao…

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