Man Pees On BART, Turns Train Into Moving ‘Slip & Slide’ – Another Person Brings Garbage Can On Board

September 10, 2018 8:00 am · 99 comments

A Claycordian took BART from Contra Costa County to San Francisco this weekend.

Here’s a recap of what she saw:

My family took BART to San Francisco Sunday and this is how unsanitary the BART trains are. There were several homeless people sleeping on the trains. We witnessed one man laying down and he began urinating in the BART seats.

As you can see the urine went up and down the BART train and I wonder how many people sat in those seats after he left. We moved to another car to find another area that looked like someone had urinated on the floor and sadly another homeless man that smelled as if he may have defecated on himself.

We moved a third time to another train.

This time a man came on dragging a large garbage can and wearing a bright orange vest as if he worked for BART, but I don’t think he did.

There were no BART police around and the health and safety of the other passengers were/are at risk.

Elderly riders could have slipped and fell in the urine. BART really needs to clean up its act! Clean the cars, monitor who is getting on the trains, especially when someone is dragging a large container on and no one stops him! How does that happen? Our society is a scary place, for all we know he could have had a bomb.

Never a dull moment.

mike September 10, 2018 at 8:14 AM

Keep voting democrat in CA and you will see more and more of this.

This is the Wild West and it’s been getting worse for several years since AB109, Prop 47, Prop 57, democrat control , etc.

Dave September 10, 2018 at 8:38 AM

This has nothing to do with republicans or democrats.

Cellophane September 10, 2018 at 9:23 AM

I think it does matter if the Elected Representatives are Democrats or Republican.

It’s not hard to differentiate between a Democratically run City, County, State, Country, compared to a Republican running the same administrations.

The historical focus of each party has not changed all that much over the decades.

It’s up to each individual to decide for themselves if they prefer one over the other.

Lee September 10, 2018 at 9:41 AM

If the Democrats are responsible for the decline of BART in the last 10 years, then they’re also responsible for the booming state and national economy of the last 10 years, since we’ve had a Democratic governor since 2011 and a Democratic President for 8 of the last 10 years. Obviously they’re responsible for everything.

Come on, man. You can’t pick and choose who gets the credit or the blame. It doesn’t work like that.

Dawg September 10, 2018 at 10:12 AM

Wake up Dave, this has everything to do with the Dems liberal soft on crime policies and the voters that keep voting for them.

Lena September 10, 2018 at 10:16 AM

@Dave Your opinion. BART consistently displays a liberal position most often advocated by Democrats with regard to its

G. September 10, 2018 at 11:44 AM

I’m not a democrat or a republican so allow me to report my unbiased testimony. The existence of badly run municipalities is a reality in both the domain of the republicans, as well as the democrats. You’d have to lack a lot of intelligence to not realize it’s simply the people who make a community run well, or not.

A big part of that would be classified as being polite to your neighbors, regardless of their political affiliation.

mike September 10, 2018 at 6:43 PM

-AB109 was sponsored by 15 Democrats and not a single Republican.

-Prop 47 (Democrats)
Lt. Gov. Gavin Newsom (D)
Sen. Loni Hancock (D-9)
Sen. Mark Leno (D-11)
Sen. Darrell Steinberg (D-6)
Rep. Nancy Skinner (D-15)
San Francisco District Attorney George Gascón (D)[3]
Mary Jane Burke, Marin County Superintendent of Schools[4]
Santa Clara District Attorney Jeff Rosen,_Reduced_Penalties_for_Some_Crimes_Initiative_(2014)

-Prop 57 – Almost exclusively supported by Democrats and liberal groups, almost entirely opposed by Republicans and conservatives,_Parole_for_Non-Violent_Criminals_and_Juvenile_Court_Trial_Requirements_(2016)

Crime, homelessness increased, more criminals on the streets/bart/everywhere, laws not being enforced consistently, nothing to do with republicans, but everything to do with Democrats………

Wake up people. The Wild West…….

Jane Doe September 11, 2018 at 12:08 AM

You should see what concord does to bathrooms in stores

Concordmom September 11, 2018 at 10:27 AM

No Democrat or Republican wants to see piss on a train. What a stupid comment.

Rofl September 10, 2018 at 8:25 AM

Just an ordinary day on BART. We need to throw a few more million dollars to solve this issue….

Maybe half a billion. Maybe then you’ll get a working camera.

Always Right September 10, 2018 at 8:27 AM

60% of Claycord voters endorse this insanity every time they mark their ballot in favor of the liberal democrat candidate.

The BART board is just a symptom of this state-wide problem.

Kentucky Derby September 10, 2018 at 8:43 AM

Never a dull moment is correct. People need to keep in mind they’re on public transportation. It’s the reason so many people won’t ride.

The first car (right behind the train engineer) is your best bet. Strategy goes on a long way. Ride safely.

Poging Unggoy September 10, 2018 at 8:45 AM

The problem is not the dumb politician but the dumb people that keep voting for these dumb politicians. If you want sh1t, keep voting democRATs.

Captain Bebops September 10, 2018 at 9:08 AM

Like Republicans are geniuses, LOL! Both parties have gone to hell anyway. I’ve never joined a political party and never will. Parties are owned and manipulated in the US these days by corporate interests.

To solve this problem get the homeless off the streets and back to normal. Don’t leave them to drown in a soulless sink or swim society.

Conc le Bonk September 10, 2018 at 11:45 AM

The problem is that no one wants to actually put resources into our nation’s major homeless and mental illness problems. The dirty little secret is that the other states have NIMBY’d their homeless problem onto us, and unfortunately, the buck stops here. Because there is no where left to shove them off to. *WE* have to be those adults and come up with real humanitarian* solutions (*=because these homeless people are, shocking for most of you I am sure, human beings).

But by all means, vote Republican. Vote for the party whose immigration policy is to separate, then lose track of, thousands of children from their parents. And then not give 2 F’s about it. Whose general policy is to hand every government run service to their rich friends, and cut YOU out of having any sort of agency for improvement or change of said services.

Yeah. I think I’m going to need a bit of a better argument than calling the opposition “democRATs”, and pointing out some urine on a BART train (which was happening back when a Republican was in charge, btw), to convince me to vote Republican and against my fellow American’s best interests.

Keep all three barrels up September 10, 2018 at 8:53 AM

Went into Starbucks this morning for coffee. As I was waiting for my order a homeless man came in reeking of urine. He obviously wet himself. He comes in and sits down. Doesn’t order anything, gets up and leaves. I told the cashier she should probably wipe down the chair because it’s probably wet with urine. She said she would when she had time.

grandmato3 September 10, 2018 at 8:56 AM

One fix would be to make it impossible to gain entrance through the ticket turnstiles. The ones in use are low and easy to jump over then ride the rails all day and night. They can start with the known stations that have the most problems and then police those trains. They know what to do I’m still waiting for them to do it.

Reality says... September 10, 2018 at 10:16 AM

+1…this would reduce fare jumpers and homeless people from riding the train. Easy solution with great ROI.

PHResident September 10, 2018 at 10:31 AM

+2 If BART hardened the entrance gates, the homeless people wouldn’t be on the trains.. they ain’t buying a ticket…all BART would have to do is focus on a few downtown SF and OAK stations …that’s where they’re getting on……of course the politically correct folks will throw a fit

JLew September 10, 2018 at 11:20 AM

Problem is, they usually do have a ticket. They buy the cheapest fare and hunker down on the train all day. As long as they have a valid ticket on them BART can’t kick them off. It’s a deeper issue than dare jumping. BART needs more police presence but they don’t want to pay for it. It’s pretty bad when the NYC subway is cleaner & safer & BART is only a fraction of the size.

ZZ September 10, 2018 at 8:58 AM

Oh, don’t worry BART is taking care of things. They are getting lots and lots of money. They care about societ you know. Ha!

Lena September 10, 2018 at 9:27 AM

Maybe he has a medical condition which makes him incontinent and it was an accident. The medical care for those without insurance (Medi-Cal) was obliterated with Obamacare. Hoards of homeless individuals is a consequence of putting families first, and allowing illegal aliens to flood the country using up finite resources. A whole class of individuals becomes neglected by the “system.” When the needs of all citizens are treated equally, you won’t see this disparity. But, its your choice. I suppose if you want to raise your children in a “Mad Max” environment, it can be arranged. In fact, it looks like it already has been arranged.

Chicken Little September 10, 2018 at 4:35 PM

That’s what adult diapers are for. Plenty of people are incontinent, but manage not to pee on the floor of the BART train.

May September 10, 2018 at 9:27 AM

If the rider was so worried about safety why wasn’t this reported to the police?..:could have a bomb in a trash can? Where would a homeless person find a bomb, anyway? This writer is being overly dramatic and obviously afraid of homeless people. I don’t want to sit in pee, either but if a transient pays they have a right to ride just like anybody else. Lol

Recovering BART Commuter September 10, 2018 at 1:27 PM

Part of the problem with BART is that reporting crimes to the police, BART police or otherwise, results in no action. Same with reporting any issue to any BART personnel; it results in no action (and I’m sure there’s a cadre of Claycordians ready to dispute me; I got 20 years of daily BART use on my side).
May, buying a ticket does not entitle anyone, homeless or not, to pee in a BART car or anywhere within BART facilities except for a designated toilet. Hard to believe, but it’s true.

Passenger September 10, 2018 at 7:25 PM

BART needs to clean up their cars so it’s safe for everyone. I feel bad for the hardworking people who pay to use BART daily and they deserve better conditions. Just because someone pays to ride BART doesn’t give them the right to urinate on the seats and floors.

Kenny September 12, 2018 at 6:07 AM

I was thinking the same thing. All you have to do is pull your phone out? No phone? No service? Ring the train operator. That’s what the intercom in each car is for.

Bart police don’t do anything? Bull. My ex wife went nuts and refused to leave my car while I was parked at bart. I called Bart police. They came right away and got her to leave my vehicle.

Another time a passenger punched another passenger and was ranting and raving incoherently. 2 other passengers and I restrained him and got another passenger to hit the intercom. Again, Bart police saved the day

RANDOM TASK September 10, 2018 at 9:29 AM

hey barrels ty for that comment it appears the degradation of life is dwindling faster than anyone thought

crime is legal ….bums allowed to urinate anywhere ….beggers at every exit

The socialist agenda has compromised this state so bad …that simple ideals of society are breaking down …and being accepted at an astonishing rate

it appears a socialist move to make this state a huge bezerkly has already succeeded ….the stage is set for a full blown breakdown of public services and an overall blanket acceptance that a clean society is not wanted …a safe society is not wanted ….a safe environment for our children is not wanted ….uneducated self loathing is the norm ….and the voters are ok with a communist socialist society where no one cares and common decency is out the door ….

RANDOM TASK September 10, 2018 at 9:34 AM

so nice to see the millions of dollars paid by us for new trains will be much appreciated by the bums ….just like graffiti the bums will have a brand new canvas to inspire others ….maybe they should invent plastic seats that changes colors when urinated on that would be bullish eyyy…..urine art on our trains ….copyrighted on 9-10-18
you know the libs will do it they love art ….

Kinsey Leakey September 10, 2018 at 9:39 AM

So I just gotta wonder. All the people gripung, posting pictures, grievances about BART, why do you ride it then?
If I hated and was grossed out by BART and it’s issues I sure wouldn’t even ride it. It’s not like you people are forced to ride it, but if your lives are totally controlled by having to patronize BART you got bigger problems than BART.

Ethan September 10, 2018 at 1:16 PM

I avoid BART like the plague, haven’t ridden in probably 3-4 years. But that’s beside the point when I am a TAXPAYER who is funding that nightmare…take your pick what’s worse: closed bathrooms, janitors making $300K taking 90-minute breaks in closets, human waste in stairwells among other places, a board so ultra-PC/liberal-minded they won’t release footage from cameras WE PAID FOR that shows felony assault/robberies due to “racial sensitivity”, bloated completely unsustainable pensions, etc etc.

So it is ABSURD to opine that whether one rides or not is relevant to complaining about the complete abortion which is BART.

RSD September 10, 2018 at 7:38 PM

Ethan, We’ll said. I’m 100% with you. I haven’t ridden a train in a while and have no desire to. People that can’t admit that the democrat liberal board running this system is to blame is naive. The entire board needs to be kicked out. This situation is a microcosm of what is happening all over our nation. And whether people want to admit it or not, it’s exactly why Trump won. People are sick and tired of the safety issues, squalor conditions, and PC bs which is prevalent in our liberal cities. Beautiful folks. Isn’t it..

Original G September 10, 2018 at 9:48 AM

“A decade ago, then-Mayor Gavin Newsom made an unlikely promise.

In 10 years, he pledged on June 30, 2004, the worst of San Francisco’s homeless problem would be gone.”

Anon September 10, 2018 at 12:32 PM

When he’s governor things will change.

BoboHead September 10, 2018 at 1:23 PM

And when he’s president, things will change even more!

Dr. Jellyfinger September 10, 2018 at 8:13 PM

So ….. you agree things will change with Newsom but conveniently did not say “for the better”…. so I can only conclude you mean the left wing liberal birdbrained insanity will only get worse.

RANDOM TASK September 10, 2018 at 10:00 AM

so DAVE this has nothing to do with dems …..errr they have controlled this state for 50 years …..and their policies are a direct result for all the woes of this state ….they are claiming no money they are raising taxes and imposing fees and gas and measures to fix roads …..yet they pass a budget every year that should include road maintenance and yet raise more taxes and yes they legalized crime and yes allow bums to run amuck ….obviously if you put on a hat and jacket from a thrift store and slap some booze on it you can ride bart for free …..

DAVE where have you been the dems have politicized this state the second potus was elected ….they have reigned down slander after slander bullied his 10 year old son into seclusion ….when or if you work either way you go by politics all day be it bums or illegals or beggars …high gas prices ..increased traffic ( the dems gave illegals drivers licenses so they can vote ) more drivers about 800,000 of them in this state alone ….millions across the country ….

politics yearns for more and more illegals because it creates chaos and disruption of the norm ….check history dem liberal mentality is to upheave and then offer system or program or a real good one is a non profit dem controlled charity …yea that one rakes in the money …its all politics in this state …everything including the toilet you use delivered by a dem controlled union member and installed by one

your contributing to the shroud over this state ….your freedom yes right

attributed to you by people who died fighting for it and you are handing this country over to a socialist agenda that takes freedom away and is run by GOV control ….NOT BY THE PEOPLE

CITIZENS HAVE THE RIGHT TO VOTE ….DEMS ARE TAKING THAT AWAY ONE CHIP AT A TIME ……TO ALLOW ILLEGALS TO DIRECT OUR COUNTRY ….THE OUNTRIES ECONOMY IS THRIVING AND SURGING AND THE ONLY ONES CRYING ABOUT THAT ARE THE DEMS BECAUSE THAT MEANS JOE DIRT DOES NOT NEED SUPLEMENTS AND OR GOV ASSISTANCE BECAUSE HE IS EARNING A LIVING …..those gov systems need attendance just like public schools in order to get money every year …..more working less assistance needed …leads to those sytems being shut down and the dems skim those …….EVERYTHING IS POLITICAL IN DEMIFORNIA …..that’s how they want it

Max. September 10, 2018 at 6:36 PM

The Liberal policies are wrecking state. Ca. is becoming the joke of this country. We can’t take care of all the problems here, the massive homeless, the Veterans, yet some people want more people to be welcomed who need help, –more immigrants, more illegals. Our schools are crowded, our roads are crowded, yet we gave illegals drivers licenses. The politicians who want illegals should take several families into their large homes. When I moved here 32 yrs ago Bart was clean. No food or drinks allowed, no homeless sleeping on trains. The homeless are welcomed here. No responsibilities, no rent, utilities, taxes to pay. Free needles, free food, do they still get a free cell phone from Obama’s era? The Republican mid West where living cost is less does not have such a big homeless problem, but they might have to work there..

Jean September 10, 2018 at 10:17 AM

Has anyone noticed all the Bart Police cars on rode and freeways? I told my hubs the other day….they need to get out of their cars and get ON the trains….just yesterday there were 4 Bart Cop cars at WC Bart…shouldn’t you at Mac Arthur Station that’s where they need the HELP!! Get out if your comfy cars and get onto the CARS that matter!!

It's Me September 10, 2018 at 11:07 AM

I see them everywhere but BART. We need to start a fb page where people can start posting pics with time and date. With the state of BART they need to be doing the job AT BART they are paid to do.

Uhhuhhhhhhhhh September 10, 2018 at 10:25 AM

bart police have pleaded ty of time to ticket people in the lots but they cant keep people safe from all this bs? SMH!

LWB September 10, 2018 at 10:38 AM

Contact Cal OSHA

Silva September 10, 2018 at 10:41 AM

There’s one advantage to the moldering old carpeting that they hadn’t thought of. Urine was confined to a smaller, less slippery area. BART might want to fit some sort of non-slip stuff on the floors, and toot sweet!

Kinksey Leakey September 10, 2018 at 10:49 AM

And again, I can’t believe you people are so hung up on BART problems! You people need to seriously patronizing BART and have better lives.
Commuters on BART seem to secretly enjoy having to ride it.

Lena September 10, 2018 at 4:29 PM

For many, BART is the only way to get around the Bay Area. While working in San Francisco years ago, BART was having hours-long delays one morning for some reason, so I just drove to work that day. It cost me more to park in my company’s underground garage than I earned in wages that day. And, that is the problem. It is very expensive to park in San Francisco and prohibitive for most people who are working everyday, Monday through Friday, to drive to work. In addition, the traffic that day was horrific because everybody had the same idea. BART is almost the only reasonable alternative. Same goes for Oakland and Berkeley. I believe the problems with BART are a result of a lax attitude by BART management. They keep saying they are going to fix these problems and it never happens. Other transit systems in other cities are more efficient and cleaner, so BART has no excuse. It can be done.

Citizen September 10, 2018 at 10:52 AM


Citizen September 10, 2018 at 5:13 PM

I think B should stand for BAD instead of Big!

Will September 10, 2018 at 10:56 AM

I worked in San Francisco for 7 years. Rode BART for the first 4 years, then when it became too disgusting to tolerate it I drove more than an hour each way for the last 3 years. Would rather be stuck in traffic than spend another minute on BART. Do not miss the piss, crap, homeless, smells, overcrowding, lack of seats, etc one little bit. Oh and all of the homeless people making a mess of the San Francisco stations. BART is a disaster.

It's Me September 10, 2018 at 11:05 AM

Just disgusting!
And I was thinking that was a clever way to move a body in the garbage can.

Captain Bebops September 10, 2018 at 11:26 AM

You need to give these people (psychologically disabled aside) a place to pee. Years ago San Francisco wanted to install self cleaning single occupant restrooms downtown. The disabilities people said they couldn’t use them so instead larger ones were installed resulting in drug dealing in them. The single user one would have prevented that.

As for BART the old rail and trolley tracks should not been torn up and more cost affordable light rail installed instead. A high speed rail should have been built in the 1980s when other countries did when it wouldn’t have cost so much.

Think about the special interests who for their own profit derail more intelligent solutions.

WC Resident September 10, 2018 at 11:32 AM

Thank you for the report. This is one of the reasons we read the news. Reporters subject themselves to things that normal sane people wouldn’t. I have not taken BARF anywhere in years. I thought they had carpeted floors except for the area between the doors?

Jeff September 10, 2018 at 11:37 AM

This is a job for 108RS

Nutcreek Frontier September 10, 2018 at 11:43 AM

Am completely troubled by the fact that a passenger was able to bring a large garbage can into the station and BART car, huge security risk. No one stopped him, or contacted security? Crazy, how easy would it be for a terrorist to dress as a homeless person and do the same…may never ride BART again after reading this.

So Sad September 10, 2018 at 8:58 PM

Isn’t that the craziest thing you ever saw that a person can get into the station with the trashcan. Walk right by the station agent and nothing is done . It’s one of the craziest things I’ve ever seen on BART.
Can the public stand up and protest…stand outside with protest signs.
OPPS…I forgot this is not the 60s and the mass majority really doesn’t care.

Fred P. September 10, 2018 at 11:47 AM

It’s the liberals’ dream of a homeless shelter – ie, NIMBY.

So Sad September 10, 2018 at 11:53 AM

Our civilization seems to be crumbling around us.
The mentally ill have no one to care for them.
State run mental hospitals or institutions may be a solution.
I am afraid that soon, a plague may break out in our cities. When something awful like this happens, and innocent people lose their lives because of a plague. And there is a state of emergency, only then will something be done to help the mentally unfit who walk the street with no one to care for them.

Original G September 10, 2018 at 12:07 PM

Our first responders are forced to deal with the mentally ill and drug addled repeatedly until they commit a crime the soft on crime progressive liberals still consider serious enough for them to be charged and held.

They have created with their misguided experimentation and responses to crisis situations they created.

In the past Judges had the ability to sentence a defendant to serious Felony State Prison terms which the Judge would suspend provided the defendant got clean n sober, gainful employment and stayed that way while on 5 years probation which included random drug testing.

Liberals took that proven method away from Judges.
Increases in crime and overdose deaths have been the result.

Dorothy September 10, 2018 at 12:07 PM

Bart recently decided they didn’t need extra help to maintain order on their trains so cut that program. Bart pays its own people and directors very well with all kinds of perks, some of them permanent. But heaven forbid that the customers actually get any real service like clean trains, clean stations, and security. Bart will just raise the rates and parking fees so they can get more and the customers get less. How many handouts does Bart get already? Just look at the bond fees on the property taxes, various county tax fund, the money it gets from the state and federal government.

Wish we could live without Bart since Bart does not, and has not, lived up to any of its promises from day one.

Original G September 10, 2018 at 12:19 PM

Just wondering how many BART employees watched in person or on CCTV the guy with the garbage can bring it onto the BART train ?

So Sad September 10, 2018 at 8:50 PM

Good point there Original G . I bet they did see that guy drag the trash can on the train, and did they usually do. Last week I was at the Richmond station… and the lady working the station in the booth was crocheting on the job. Then while on the train, I tried to communicate with the train operator via the radio that’s on every train. Well …he could not hear a word I said. So while we are riding these trains, we are completely on our own, with no security anything could happen.

Nancy September 10, 2018 at 12:41 PM

Thanks for the info/photos (though it was edited). I’m assuming you contacted the conductor or station agent at some point so they could clean it up.
Even if BART employees were not generally overpaid, as they are, (my brother was one and he agreed), the funds to pay for staff to continually walk the cars would be extremely expensive, but doable and necessary.

Also remember that our homeless shelters are too few and most require residents to leave all day. It is also very hard when mentally ill refuse help; our culture rightly allows individual freedom first, but there are societal consequences.

Passenger September 10, 2018 at 6:58 PM

What do you mean the photo was edited?

RANDOM TASK September 10, 2018 at 12:55 PM

so sad

I feel for you and your concerns I do

problem is our politicians have no desire to help anyone but illegals and their own arse

until people actually make them do their jobs there will be more urine on this entire state along with hepA and yes other things that infect people ….the original plague started like this garbage on the streets urine …poop…and everything else ….sounds like bezerjkly …yes I know

still bart is a looking glass into our states vision …look at china ..japan …germany ….they offer stellar mass transit ….to bolster their well being and that’s why this state is falling down ….too many liberals focused on potus and not what really matters …..our lives

Ashley September 10, 2018 at 1:00 PM

I had a passed out homeless man start urinating all over our bart car too… And people wonder why no one takes public transit even though it’s readily available here?? With all the money bart makes, they really can’t get some working cameras?

Jerry September 10, 2018 at 1:16 PM

I was riding BART yesterday on the Richmond line when everyone started abandoning the car I was in. I wondered what was up and then I smelled it, the kind of smell that sticks in your nose and you can’t get rid of it. Someone had 🤮 barfed inside the car I was in. It was made worse by the broken air conditioning in the car, making for a hot putrid smelly steaming gag inducing BART experience. Of course the train had to be held up as there were workers on the tracks ahead making us prisoners in putridity. There was a BART worker on the train not with a bucket and mop but trying to prop the doors open as to expose passengers in the next cars to the true BART experience.

Jess September 10, 2018 at 1:24 PM

It’s insane. A bum legit had diarrhea on the seats. Worst smell I have ever experienced in my life.
Or how about 2 days ago, a creepy drunk guy openly drinking from 2 bottles of hard liquor getting way too friendly with me? There were no BART cops in sight. It was filled with other people, no one tried to help me, but I was smart enough to trick him into getting onto a different train just to get him away from me. I found a security guard (not BART) getting off work and told him what happened. Nice guy, he told me to stick with him, I felt better about him being there even though the other guy was gone.
I heard last week a guy drugged a random woman, people actually helped her and called the police. Apparently he is KNOWN for this. WTF he should be in jail or worse. Drugging women!

Anon September 10, 2018 at 2:21 PM

Once again, the Majority suffers while the Minority RULES!


And yes, Dems are harboring this horsesh!t – there is No argument there.

Natalie September 10, 2018 at 2:46 PM

Concordians need to show up at the special BART meeting Thursday, September 27th, 5pm at Pittsburg City Hall. The meeting will run to 11PM. The BART board is hearing public comment on public safety issues.

Dorothy September 10, 2018 at 3:24 PM

Yes! Crowd the place to overflow.

Ethan September 10, 2018 at 4:43 PM

Haha, it’s hilarious in a cute naïveté sort of way to think public comments will have any significant impact in BART’s actions…we’re talking about BART, a bloated and corrupt public agency governed by a board with an almost complete lack of accountability. As it is, they basically turn a blind eye to the fare-jumpers, junkies using/leaving needles in stations and on trains, bums, mobs of thugs, etc.

For crying out loud, a member of the BART Board refused to release video footage of violent crimes being committed—footage captured by cameras PAID FOR BY TAXPAYERS—because they’re just so concerned about “racial bias,” I mean who gives a s*** about the victims and public release of that footage to possibly assist in identifying/arresting the suspects.

So this is nothing more than a dog and pony show to allow riders/taxpayers to vent their spleen and for BART to give appearance that they “listen and care.”

The Fearless Spectator September 10, 2018 at 3:33 PM

Bart management is hearing public comment to allow people to vent, which is far less expensive than addressing the safety and sanitary problems.

In light of the horrendous examples of filth in the above comments, perhaps it’s time to declare a “Spare the BART Passenger Air Day”. Can you imagine a single day where the ONLY passengers were fair-jumpers and bums?

In any business, you get the clientele you court. Want better clientele? Improve your product or service. Business 101.

me September 10, 2018 at 4:27 PM

since when is “we don’t have enough money for more police and you all freak every time we raise fares and you don’t want to pay higher taxes” a liberal position?

Lena September 10, 2018 at 4:38 PM

Unless BART is now checking tickets, or citing gate jumpers, I think someone should declare a day when everybody jumps the gates that day to make a point. Pass out flyers ahead of time announcing it at the stations. Maybe every Friday until something is done to stop the gate jumper/no fare passenger problem. BART would get no revenue that day and it might motivate them to get the problem under control faster.

Atticus Thraxx September 10, 2018 at 5:10 PM

You guys should organize a BART boycott. Five days, no one rides, no one pays fares. Hit ’em where it hurts.

Conc le Bonk September 10, 2018 at 5:54 PM

For those that don’t know how BART is structured, and want to gripe on and on and on about this being a partisan issue … let’s do some basic homework together!

Wikipedia on BART in general:

Wikipedia on BART District Managers:

Wikipedia on BART PD:

Speaking of, it looks as if BART PD is divided into city based districts. So perhaps that is why BART PD hang out in their cars and ticket parking lots, but don’t have foot patrols at stations or riding trains?

Director Elections for a bunch of Districts, including Concord, are open:

By all means, if someone has all the answers, jump in there. Or at least pay attention to this sort of stuff, and who is going to be responsible going forward.

BART is a public service, meaning it’s something we all are supposed to maintain. That means getting involved on at least a basic level, doing a little homework, and seeing who is supposed to be held accountable. Moaning n’ groaning at no one in particular is easy as hell, comfortable, and doesn’t get a damned thing done.

Poor Richard September 10, 2018 at 6:08 PM

It may not be Democrats vs Republicans, but it is political, Left vs Right.
Three elected BART Directors (Oakland, Berkeley, and San Francisco) have resisted any effort at fare enforcement for years, arguing it is unfair to low income, homeless, and teens.
After BART crimes were publicized last year, BART Board agreed to enforce fare evasion rules, and is to improve some of the low fences that are easily jumped. Any changes have been very slow.

Too late, as BART has become a rolling flophouse daytimes for the homeless and hopeless. It offers soft seats, air conditioning, public toilets at above ground stations, and no enforcement against poor behavior.
I am now apprehensive about traveling alone on BART.

Anonanonagain September 10, 2018 at 6:10 PM

BART is a total embarrassment and an ill run company. How is it a business that rakes in millions of dollars annually cannot maintain a sanitary and safe environment for it’s customers?? The salaries and benefits of many BART employees is more than ample for them to actually do their jobs. The trains are old and outdated and look like the old monorail at Disneyland of the 60’s and 70’s. They are filthy.unkempt and in need of a massive overhaul. I know that safety and cleanliness is one of the many reasons that I do not take BART to work anymore. PATHETIC!!!

Margaret Vertin September 10, 2018 at 6:23 PM

Oh, but BART is trying!!!! “NOT!” I’m so tired of hearing moron people who don’t ride say that.

ZZ September 10, 2018 at 6:29 PM

Are you aware of the freeway during commuter time WITH BART running? Can you imagine commuter time without BART ? The Bay area needs BART and we need it to be clean and safe again. Why wouldn’t we want to stand up for a descent form of public transportation?

Max September 10, 2018 at 6:41 PM

Anyone thinking Liberal policies are not contributing to the homeless problem, the influx of Illegals, and the crime on Bart and else where have not experienced living in the Republican mid West. Ca. is becoming the joke of the country.

mike September 10, 2018 at 6:54 PM

Has anyone ever looked at the actual BART budget? It should make you sick!!!

Over $2,000,000,000 dollars (that’s billion, yes)

Just the Bart salaries, wages, retirement, benefits, on and on and on are over $500,000,000 wtf?

Pat September 10, 2018 at 11:34 PM

How do we the taxpayer help get rid of Unions? That’ll help reduce the $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ demands of greedy public employees, and greatly help get rid of the ones who are LAZY. You’re all fired!!!!

Chicken Little September 11, 2018 at 11:55 AM

Not voting for Democrats would be a good start.

mike September 10, 2018 at 6:56 PM
Original G September 10, 2018 at 7:28 PM

“Why Tokyo’s Privately Owned Rail Systems Work So Well
Large cities with cash-strapped transit agencies would do well to study Japan’s rail history”

Then again why should bart management care about spending or costs ? ?
It is no like it’s their money . . . . . and the same people keep being elected to the bart board.

Want bart and dmv to work ?
Privatize both.

Conc le Bonk September 10, 2018 at 11:13 PM

Keep in mind the culture is radically different. America is an ultra individualistic, and self-centered society (sorry … but if that’s new to any of you, what rock have you been living under?). A Japanese train won’t have nearly as big of an issue with homeless pissing/pooping/shooting up inside cars/stations because their culture adheres to almost the complete opposite philosophy, where the well-being of others is of the utmost importance. Essentially, don’t make life difficult for the people around you. Hell, talking on your cell phone and doing anything that is not sitting still and being quiet on a train is considered a major faux pas.

That unselfish culture makes a private company taking over a public utility, such as the public transportation system, a little bit safer. Maybe, just maybe, that company won’t be so self interested that it screws the public royally.

I can pretty much guarantee that a private American company taking over BART absolutely will screw the public five ways to Sunday, and not lose a second of sleep over it. A private company taking over DMV will be even worse for all of us. These aren’t entities that need to make a profit. Like the post office, education, police/fire, etc, … we pay into these things so they exist. Period.

At the same time, I think almost everyone agrees that there is some funny BS going on with BART. What with the money being raised at the polls, then the price hikes, and the preferred parking fines … yet the security and overall well-being of riders has declined. But I really feel this is a mess we need to figure out how to clean up ourselves. As a community, and as a government. And not simply, and so easily, hand it over to one private entity to profit off of.

Popcorn please September 10, 2018 at 8:40 PM

welcome to California. lol

Dr. Jellyfinger September 10, 2018 at 10:40 PM

Maybe he’s an FBI agent?

Customer service September 11, 2018 at 12:19 AM

I work at a store in Concord I have even seen poopoo finger painting on the seat I knew did it and believe me it’s not anyone political party it’s all just gros feel sorry for the people who have to clean it🤮

Leave the Bay Area September 11, 2018 at 1:47 AM

If you can’t handle Bart then leave the Bay or drive. You think the Subways back east are any better? That’s why it’s a cheap trip. You get what you pay for.

Joel keller September 11, 2018 at 7:12 AM

I was on the train on Sunday and there was a rider exhibiting disruptive behavior who urinated on the train. I notified the police by using BART at the Pleasant Hill station. Three BART officers were waiting at the Orinda station and removed him from the train. Consider installing BART on your phone and when you see something, say something in real time.

BG September 11, 2018 at 7:30 AM

Sat down on a BART seat and my left foot plopped down in a fresh steaming pile of poop. I could not even believe it.

Lena September 11, 2018 at 8:04 AM

That the Republican Party has denounced Fitzgerald is actually an endorsement, since the Democrat Party did not endorse Feinstein, either, a long-time and distinguished incumbent. He dies not appear to be a “Holocaust denier,” an emotionally-charged designation designed to reject his opinions out of hand. Rather, he maintains he has new information on the Holocaust that he would like to publically debate with a knowlegable person. That others are trying to squelch even the discussion is suspect. He is not a Nazi, as far as I can tell, and he is not responsible for what others post on his Facebook page. And, you have to take into consideration that it is Facebook, the sewer of the internet.

Fred P. September 11, 2018 at 9:30 AM

Force the BART management to ride the trains EVERY DAY for a couple of months at varying times. Make them stand (or sit) next to a POS rider from Daly City to Pittsburg.

They won’t do anything about it until they’re FORCED to address it.

I gave up riding it years ago; I can’t even imagine it now…..

ACB128 September 11, 2018 at 2:07 PM

It is interesting to read comments on Bart stories. Bart is disgusting.Personally I don’t need to use it (thank goodness) but I sympathize with people who do! I think some of the things I have seen (which are pretty tame in comparison) are people passing around a bottle of wine and the quintessential bum asleep on one of the seats. I think if I had witnessed the above I would have thrown up right there. I cannot deal with bad smells etc.

I see Bart police cars around various Bart Stations but never any police…maybe they strategically place cars around to make it look they have everything under control?

THE BLACK KNIGHT September 11, 2018 at 8:16 PM

Often times when you see someone traveling with a garbage can it is because they’ve broken into a house and they then fill the garbage can with stolen items and wheel it away for an easier get away.

Chicken Little September 12, 2018 at 3:57 AM

“Often times…”? Really? You often see people traveling with garbage cans?

Passenger September 14, 2018 at 11:02 PM

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