City Of Concord Releases Statement On Possible Detention Center At Concord Naval Weapons Station

June 22, 2018 15:26 pm · 205 comments

The City of Concord has released a statement on the possible plans by the Navy to build an immigrant detention center on the Concord Naval Weapons Station property.

The following statement is from the City of Concord:

The City of Concord is very concerned to learn of news reports that the Navy may be planning a detention center at the Concord Naval Weapons Station.

The Navy has not communicated information to the City about any such plans, although we have reached out to them upon hearing these reports.

While the City of Concord is currently negotiating to acquire and eventually develop the Naval Weapons Station, we do not have jurisdiction or control over that federally-owned property.   

Last September, the City of Concord passed a resolution affirming Concord’s commitment to being a welcoming, inclusive, tolerant and supportive community for all.

We do not feel that a detention center within city limits represents those values.

We are working with Congressman Mark DeSaulnier, and through him, Congresswoman Nancy Pelosi, to gather additional information in order to address this issue.

J. June 22, 2018 at 3:34 PM

I thought CNWS was not yet annexed, so is therefore outside the current city limits of Concord.

Girl w/ dogs June 22, 2018 at 3:52 PM

It’s been in the city since 1966. The other federal land “Military Ocean Terminal Concord” is outside city limits.

Original G June 22, 2018 at 3:36 PM

Why would a decommissioned base with a minimal security infrastructure be used when Travis AFB has bot the facilities and security needed ?

Remember the pre-electronics age dolls where you pulled a string to make it play a recorded message. Do believe city council of Concord got their collective strings pulled.

Jerk, meet Knee . . . . .

R June 22, 2018 at 7:26 PM

Chatty Cathy dolls.

jim graves June 23, 2018 at 10:14 AM

yould put non citizens on a secure military base😳. like no potential security issues here 🙄

KinseyLeaky June 22, 2018 at 3:38 PM

Oh let’s see how the marshmallow groups take to this in their Berkeley backyard.
Crime rate going up 1000% when this happens.

I suggest sending em all back across the border including the kids that came with them.

Ricardoh June 22, 2018 at 4:41 PM

If we still had a brain left that would have been possible. The left has taken over and we are now in free flow.

Missy June 22, 2018 at 4:46 PM

If you would stop watching Fox news long enough to actually read something you would know that the crime rate for illegals is the same , or slightly lower, than the rest of the population.

Badge1104 June 22, 2018 at 6:12 PM

Missy, actually, 50% of the crime in central County is committed by illegal aliens.

Justthinking June 22, 2018 at 8:39 PM

How has the left taken over republicans run the house and senate

ZConcordian June 22, 2018 at 10:46 PM

Badge1104 – I’m going to need to see a source for that information. Got a link?

Anon June 22, 2018 at 11:23 PM

Badge doesn’t need a source. Using Badge in his moniker makes him feel like the law

mtzman June 23, 2018 at 12:25 AM

Send them all back. Interesting. That pretty much was the practice until twitter thumbs decided that zero tolerance was the way to go. Yeah, that’s working well, isn’t it?

Cryin' Chuck June 23, 2018 at 9:48 AM

@Justthinking – Thems are Democraps in sheep’s clothing. RINOs do not support PT…therefore, the dems still run the house and senate.

Really... June 25, 2018 at 1:46 PM

Immigration legislation will not pass the Senate. 60 votes are needed, not just a majority. Congress can pass a bill, but it won’t get passed in the Senate. The Republicans do not have full control of both houses. They have the majority, but a majority vote will not pass this legislation.

Tolerant June 22, 2018 at 3:41 PM

Now that’s showing YOUR Tolerance City of Concord. Good Lick with your liberal buddies marky mark and Crazy Pelosi.

Always Right June 22, 2018 at 3:45 PM

Since when is it the city of Concord’s responsibility to be the mouthpiece of the whacko left wing?

This is obviously fake news created by some left wing crackpot. Shameful that the city of Concord PR department would legitimize it.

Fact check June 22, 2018 at 4:29 PM

Fake news is not everything you don’t agree with, or chose to believe isn’t happening.

mtzman June 23, 2018 at 12:21 AM

Well, always wrong, it was created by a crackpot with the initials djt.

PandoraHD June 23, 2018 at 9:20 AM

Read for yourself. Unless you regard the left wing SFGATE fake news. U.S. Navy is reviewing plans to potentially build large-scale detention centers for undocumented immigrants in various parts of the country, including Concord.

https://www.sfgate.com/bayarea/article/Report-Huge-tent-city-to-detain-immigrants-13018523.php

Local June 22, 2018 at 3:46 PM

Exclusive: Navy Document Shows Plan to Erect ‘Austere’ Detention Camps

The memo also proposes a camp for as many as 47,000 people at former Naval Weapons Station Concord, near San Francisco.

The planning document estimates that the Navy would spend about $233 million to construct and operate a facility for 25,000 people for a six-month time period.
http://time.com/5319334/navy-detainment-centers-zerol-tolerance-immigration-family-separation-policy/

This GOP pipe dream isn’t going to last, especially with our wonderful Latino community. We won’t stand for it.

Elwood June 22, 2018 at 4:32 PM

Who is this “we” who won’t stand for it?

And please tell us more about “our wonderful Latino community”.

I assume you’re talking about the lovely Monument corridor barrio and its impoverished inhabitants. I wonder how many of them are in this country legally with permission to work.

Oh, please June 22, 2018 at 6:24 PM

Take over all you want. you are just creating the mess you came from. At that point in time. a the people who work and contribute will leave, and you will all have nothing again.

G. June 23, 2018 at 9:15 AM

Elwood, please tell us more about how every single Latino in the area lives on Monument and is a criminal. It makes you sound really smart and honest….

Cindy June 22, 2018 at 3:48 PM

I was just thinking, if they are going to separate children from parents, why not use former military bases to House entire families together? The former weapons station is hardly a prison. They had all sorts of family activities for the navy families who lived there.

This article is very unclear if this detention center is going to be temporary housing for families or a prison type of situation. I’m making my statement based on existing, unused housing on the naval weapons station.

Oh, please June 22, 2018 at 6:26 PM

The housing with asbestos that was deemed unfit for Navy families? People keep trying to use this, but seem to not remember it has been condemned. That would never fly. We have to give new and advanced free stuff to illegals and those on welfare. Didn’t you know?

Kit June 23, 2018 at 6:08 PM

Cindy,

What unused housing are you talking about? For ten years I lived in the town of Clyde, which is just past the main gate to CNWS. This was after the base was closed. I delivered the CC Times newspaper on the base and the only unused housing were the dozen or so homes that were quarters for the base officers, and the barracks which housed the Marine guards protecting the base. This was back in the early 1990’s and there were no “family” housing units.
And please, tell me what family activities are you talking about? If you are referring to the bowling alley, movie theater, skating rink, etc, they were wiped off the map July 17, 1944 when two ammunition ships exploded at the wharf of the Naval Magazine at Port Chicago.

Shasta Daisy June 22, 2018 at 3:48 PM
Juanita June 22, 2018 at 3:49 PM

I think that would be fine, as long as it’s staffed with chilld and adult psychologists and open to the public to give help and care while moms anddads are being located. The damage this president has done is criminal. We should all do anything and everything we can to make this happen!

Elwood June 22, 2018 at 4:38 PM

I think they should have free meals (respecting their cultural cuisine of course), clothing (nothing but but the latest Latino fashions) and a generous stipend.

In other words they should be subsidized by us working taxpayers the same as the other 11 million illegals in this country.

Navy vet June 22, 2018 at 5:47 PM

Faux concern about your tax dollars when they go to humans, but that $716 Billion war budget that passed this week is totally cool.

Lambie June 22, 2018 at 7:12 PM

This situation didn’t start with Trump, he tried to solve the problem, but ACLU & many lawyers said it was illegal. Sadly, his executive order will be overturned.

Missy June 22, 2018 at 9:13 PM

“This” president? Bill Clinton signed all this into law and Obama allowed it for his two terms in office. Get over your selves and come into reality.

Cryin' Chuck June 23, 2018 at 10:23 AM

Right you are @Lambie & @Missy. PT is the only one with cajones to take this head on with the enimedia and Politicians.

Juanita – you are being played by the media. Wake up!

https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2018/06/22/everything-about-time-magazine-crying-girl-immigration-propaganda-story-is-false/

Boycott The Circus June 23, 2018 at 4:04 PM

You are seriously out of your mind! And I’m pretty sure the damage started as soon as they left for the border.. could you be anymore ignorant “Juanita”

Vandy June 22, 2018 at 3:49 PM

I welcome them all. These fellow humans have a place here.

KinseyLeaky June 22, 2018 at 4:01 PM

I bet you do, you’re part of the problem..

Vandy June 22, 2018 at 4:33 PM

I sort of take that back. The more I read about this the more I realize it’s basically a big prison. These people should be free and not in a prison.

Elwood June 22, 2018 at 4:40 PM

Isn’t that sweet?

Let’s invite everyone in the world to come here and go on the dole.

Vandy June 22, 2018 at 5:05 PM

What if this place ends up just being a big concentration camp of brown people. That is horrible! I am totally against this, although I support immigration. What if they just take anyone and put them in there. We need to not have tent city concentration camps. They should be free.

Oh, please June 22, 2018 at 6:29 PM

They can be free in their own countries. But, hey. After reading your description of this, I am a little more for it now. But, still… NIMBY. This cannot happen here.

East bay native June 22, 2018 at 6:30 PM

@Vandy. It’s called breaking the law. As a sovereign nation, we have every right to enforce our immigration laws. This a scam used by the left.

Vandy June 22, 2018 at 7:39 PM

They say that this is only going to be for 6-12 months. But if they are going to spend that much money it will probably be there for years. This would be the start of a terrible concentration camp.

The CNWS should be left as Open Space. They will probably destroy a lot of animal habitat in the process. I am totally against this concentration camp. We should find a way to safely and humanely handle these immigrants: let them be free, provide them with housing, employment opportunities, medical care, and a reasonable path to naturalization and citizenship. Locking them up in a prison is inhumane and unacceptable.

mtzman June 23, 2018 at 12:39 AM

Yes, ebn, we do have every right to enforce our immigration laws but not at the expense of morality. Moreover, what we are witnessing is the consequence of a zero tolerance policy when we have neither the resources nor an administration with the competence to accomplish it,

anon June 23, 2018 at 7:26 AM

They chose to break the law & bring their kids – whatever happens is on them

Rollo Tomasi June 23, 2018 at 6:49 PM

@mtzman:
Do your virtue signalling somewhere else. Your claim that enforcing immigration laws is immoral implies that those who support it are immoral. I hope you leave your doors open at night so those “in need” can share your shelter -otherwise you’re immoral.

JDH June 22, 2018 at 3:50 PM

This is ridiculous. There’s plenty of empty land in the Central Valley and Nevada. Build it there, not in a major urban center.

Tommy O’ June 22, 2018 at 5:01 PM

And deny 45 a golden opportunity to stick it to his favorite state, California, and conveniently close to Nancy Pelosi’s San Francisco district ? Don’t bet against Trump’s desire to double-down at every chance that falls into his ample lap…

Antler June 23, 2018 at 11:15 AM

Tommy O.
🎯

Mike June 22, 2018 at 3:57 PM

Internment camps? Really? What happened to American values. I can’t believe this is even being framed as a right/left issue.

Anon June 22, 2018 at 4:50 PM

When my great grandparents landed at Ellis Island THERE WERE NO FREEBIES – IF YOU DIDN’T WORK = YOU DID NOT SURVIVE.
The way it should be.

Too many handouts and programs for everyone else but hard working citizens and VETS!!!

Badge1104 June 22, 2018 at 6:32 PM

America always had an immigration policy and would not allow illegal immigration. The Country would meter the people who come in and sometimes increase the flow, sometimes decrease the flow depending on the absorption. Now we have the Democratic party and all the liberals who just want open unrestricted immigration to flood an extra 100 million in. for some reason they really prefer that the people come from poor Hispanic countries. it worries me greatly as to who’s going to pay for this? And what about

Phil June 22, 2018 at 7:09 PM

Anon 4:50 pm

What handouts & programs are you referring to?

Name June 23, 2018 at 7:02 AM

We did NOT always have an immigration policy and that is probably how your relatives were able to get in. Our immigration policy becan around the 1920’s and it now takes up to 20 years to become a citizen depending on what country you come from. Your family landed on Elis island already getting free citizenship, something these people have to struggle decades to get.

Cowellian June 22, 2018 at 4:00 PM

While the City of Concord is currently negotiating to acquire and eventually develop the Naval Weapons Station, we do not have jurisdiction or control over that federally-owned property

And that, ladies and gentlemen, is the bottom line.

Nature Lover June 22, 2018 at 4:01 PM

This sounds like a belated April Fools Day joke on us…

Judge Roy Bean June 22, 2018 at 4:03 PM

Proves just how ignorant and liberal the Concord City Council has become.

NorwichFan June 22, 2018 at 4:08 PM

So people scream “let the immigrants in” but when it comes hosting in their community, NOT IN MY BACKYARD.

Hypocrisy at its best!!!

Oh, please June 22, 2018 at 6:31 PM

Not me. I don’t want them here, I don;t want them there, I don’t want them anywhere! Except in their countries of origin. But, then again, I am not a liberal, so….

Pacificgas&explosions June 22, 2018 at 4:10 PM

Lol at all the affluent “Tolerant” liberal NIMBY’s hysterically screaming against this.

Typical.

Ricardoh June 22, 2018 at 4:10 PM

So the ones that want the country invaded don’t want them here. Nice

M June 22, 2018 at 4:11 PM

They should not be building concentration camps anywhere, because that is what these are! Part of the plan for the NWS involves massive clean up of the toxic and dangerous chemicals and who knows what else! To think that building a tent city on top of it all is dangerous for everyone! Humans should not be treated this way!

Ricardoh June 22, 2018 at 4:36 PM

Our Navy lived there.

DrvrdadCA June 22, 2018 at 4:44 PM

I say house them here and have them clean it up.

Harley June 22, 2018 at 4:52 PM

Great point about the clean-up.

Hope Johnson June 22, 2018 at 5:10 PM

@ DrvrdadCA – The clean up is no joking matter. It has to be done so that it is safe for the workers cleaning and for the surrounding neighborhoods. Not to mention that we need monitoring if the Federal government starts digging at all there.

@Ricardoh – When the Navy first seized the land, it wasn’t toxic – it was farm land. After the Navy failed to plan for poisoning its own, all their housing had to be built offsite.

Yeah, me June 23, 2018 at 8:41 AM

That property was never “farm land”.It was a ranchero. And the white immigrants kicked out the previous owners, Mexican immigrants to get it. You guys ever notice the telltale signs of previous Mexican culture here in Claycord? “Contra Costa”, Todos Santos”, “Ygnacio”.?

MAGA folks want to turn back the clock-but only so far.

Hope Johnson June 23, 2018 at 10:42 AM

@ Yeah, me – There are several locations that were farms and some buildings still stand. My post was not meant to define land use with such specificity, only to point out that it was not contaminated by toxic chemicals when the Navy seized it. Maybe calling its use agricultural would have included rancheros (aka ranchers) and serve to satisfy your grammatical hang up so we can get on to the bigger picture.

The land and some water is contaminated with arsenic, TCE, and other toxic chemicals. The Navy is still in the middle of cleaning and digging, and, by the way, doing so with the same company that falsified up to 97% of soil samples at Hunters Point. No government agency should be housing people there until we know it is clean – no one should be living out there until then, no one, regardless of any type of status.

Frank Faragasso June 22, 2018 at 4:12 PM

A good use for the facility, it has been sitting unused for too long while local politicians play power games with it. You would be better off consulting with two patients from an asylum than DeSaulnier and Pelosi between them their are no functioning brain cells, they never have anything constructive to add to the situation. Like the fake picture of the little girl crying that the democrats used to politicize the situation with the insurgents coming across the border using children as shields.

DrvrdadCA June 22, 2018 at 4:44 PM

Agreed

335 June 22, 2018 at 4:18 PM

That’s something I didn’t see coming. The property is owned by the government. They can turn that into the next area 51 if they wanted to and there’s nothing we would be able to do. A prision run by ICE though, I haven’t heard anything but bad news in what Immigration and Customs Enforcement has been doing anyways. But that’s a hear say thing. California is broke enough already, I doubt this new detention center would be coming.

Cellophane June 22, 2018 at 4:19 PM

Last September, the City of Concord passed a resolution affirming Concord’s commitment to being a welcoming, inclusive, tolerant and supportive community for all.

We do not feel that a detention center within city limits represents those values.

As open-minded as the City seems to be, this sounds a little…

how should I phrase this…

It just sounds a little odd to me…

Lena June 23, 2018 at 2:05 PM

They are being forced to eat their words … and they appear to be choking on them.

Justyfiable anger June 22, 2018 at 4:20 PM

Build the wall instead. Force Mexico to deal with what they are encouraging.

Silva June 22, 2018 at 4:23 PM

What The Fark!?!?!

Roz June 22, 2018 at 5:36 PM

I Second That!

George June 22, 2018 at 4:26 PM

If it helps protect the California citizen then i’m all for the detention centers. The City of Concord does not have a right to speak for everyone.

Fyi June 22, 2018 at 5:38 PM

Actually they do because we voted for them!

Cellophane June 22, 2018 at 6:46 PM

FYI

Who’s we.

The current City Council does not represent my views or position on any topic.

They may speak for you, but they do not speak for me.

Besides, It’s the US Governments base. They’ll do as they please.

R June 23, 2018 at 7:19 AM

Shouldn’t the Council have put the issue on the agenda before issuing a statement against it? I’m sure hope can tell us if there was a violation of the Brown Act here or if the City Manager went rogue. I am against the detention center, but considering how long it takes the City to get almost anything done, I’m surprised by this rapid response.

G. June 23, 2018 at 9:20 AM

Cellophane, they do speak for YOU. It just seems that in the midst of your self serving temper tantrums, you forgot YOU are part of a community. The community voted them in. You don’t throw a fit just because you didn’t get your way. How old are you?

Mr White June 22, 2018 at 4:28 PM

Do you want to know what your problem really is? Do ya??
Here it is:

Inclusive
Tolerant
Desaulnier
Pelosi

Concord’s commitment to being a welcoming, inclusive, tolerant and supportive community for all.

We do not feel that a detention center within city limits represents those values.

We are working with Congressman Mark DeSaulnier, and through him, Congresswoman Nancy Pelosi

Sick of it June 22, 2018 at 4:30 PM

I welcome it if they clean up this illegal invasion that the liberal politicians keep calling for. The US is a nation of laws and those laws need to be inforced. You enter illegally you go to jail before being shipped home. Personally I am sick of the democrats spending my money on protecting them. Our great governor put in 50 million in the budget of our tax payers money to protect them with legal council. Hey why isn’t that being spent on our own legal citizens that need help or our schools. Build the facility and clean up the monument corridor. You would see crime and violence go way down in that area. Everyone when’s about the treatment they get. Why don’t those who don’t like it go cross the border 8nto Mexico illegally and see how you are received over there. Gaurenteed you will not like it at all.

Brig June 22, 2018 at 6:06 PM

Any clue how much its costing US to house all these people? Billions. Catch and release like this country has always done, just get the wall built and the problem will take care of itself. As for us arresting people when they claim asylum is insane and expensive. So is jailing kids and adults for a misdemeanor charge of illegal crossing the border. We are pushing money down the drain.

Howabout June 22, 2018 at 4:30 PM

How about we put all the damn homeless, crack heads, meth using, drug seeking people there make Concord nice again!

Joatmeal June 22, 2018 at 7:14 PM

That would make the crime rate drop!

Lambie June 22, 2018 at 7:24 PM

That was going to be my suggestion 😉

Hope Johnson June 22, 2018 at 4:40 PM

Are they going to detain people on toxic soil?

Paula Friedman June 25, 2018 at 4:54 AM

Apparently they would put an “austere detention facility”–presumably meaning tents with double-decker bunks only inches apart, barbed around each tent and its tiny “exercise” space, and around the whole bunch of tents, etc.–all on this toxic site, yes, Hope Johnson. Listen, the people of Concord and Alameda Counties have demonstrated effectively at that site before–against wars–and can certainly effectively block, or at very least mitigate, this horrific treatment of immigrants if they’re put there.

PATRICIA June 22, 2018 at 4:41 PM

Concord does not need this facility!! We have enough problems without the Navy adding this!

DrvrdadCA June 22, 2018 at 4:43 PM

“Last September, the City of Concord passed a resolution affirming Concord’s commitment to being a welcoming, inclusive, tolerant and supportive community for all.

We do not feel that a detention center within city limits represents those values.”

Well if you don’t feel that the detention center should be here then you are neither welcoming, inclusive, tolerant or a supportive community. You can’t have it both ways. And this isn’t your land, it belongs to the Feds and they can do (as they always do) as they see fit.

S June 22, 2018 at 4:44 PM

I’m guessing only 50/50 on this. Chances are very good that by the time the place is readied, we’ll be on to the next “Issue”, and the facility won’t be needed. How’s about Alcatraz?????

Local June 22, 2018 at 4:47 PM

The real Trump Hotel.

Ricardoh June 22, 2018 at 4:49 PM

165,000,000 people would like to emigrate to the US should we let them in? I think DeSaltier would let them in. Just don’t put them in his neighborhood.

hill June 22, 2018 at 4:54 PM

Glad I will be out of the bay area for good in a few weeks. Good luck with your 47,000 new residents.

KinseyLeaky June 22, 2018 at 4:57 PM

You know they cant put all the homeless anywhere but a bunch of illegals get more rights and offers than the homeless for a huge place to stay with food, tents/buildings and medical.
This country is messed up, sure open the borders and let everyone in and America will take care of you.

mtzman June 23, 2018 at 12:49 AM

There is a big building on Pine Street in downtown Martinez with food, buildings and medical that would only be too happy to take care of you.

George Kimmel June 22, 2018 at 5:03 PM

This is a very good idea.

Cafe Girl June 22, 2018 at 5:03 PM

What about all the money Concord put into all the plans to rebuild it. Sure is a good use of our money

JA June 22, 2018 at 5:10 PM

I’d like to bid on that food contract. 25,000 x 3 meals a day. Wow!

Mike Heller June 22, 2018 at 5:27 PM

If we had built a reasonably good wall/fence years ago, we would NOT have this problem of women and children sneaking into our country! DeSaulnier says he’s against a wall but doesn’t explain why – apparently he is smarter than the ancient Chinese (Great Wall), the United Nations (Cyprus), Israel, Hungary, Spain, Turkey, etc. There are 70 different countries in the world that have border walls or fences, according to Reuters.
But DeSaulnier must be smarter than all these people.

The Reasonable Man June 22, 2018 at 6:10 PM

California has a wall. Has had one for decades. 105 miles of the 140 mile California border with Mexico is fortified with an 18 foot steel girder fence/wall. The other 35 miles is so inhospitable immigrants don’t bother crossing there because they risk certain death. The one state whose border is 91% open??? TEXAS. Where are most illegals crossing? TEXAS.

Ricardus June 23, 2018 at 7:31 AM

I think people always need someone or something to blame. It’s the easy way out.

Illegal immigration is a problem, but without it, the American economy would fail. Who is going to farm all the produce, do remedial jobs, or work at Mar-a-Lago? And, as legal Americans, are you going to be content with paying $10 for a head of lettuce? $100 per pound for a Ribeye? The problem is that corporations can’t find qualified workers to do the jobs because they don’t want to pay them. So they hire illegal immigrants or turn a blind eye. If America did not provide jobs for illegal immigrants, they wouldn’t come.

We can argue all day about coming the right way, but we need to really discuss how corporations and the government created this mess. They’re the ones that took jobs abroad because it’s cheaper. And again, look at these camps and see the bottom line. Orange is the new black… brown. Private companies are making $$$ off these detention centers.

I find it ironic that many pro detention center people that likely watch Fox News were also raising hell about the FEMA Camps, but are fine with the government run by corporations to do the same to another group of people. It’s a slippery slope.

Concord June 23, 2018 at 10:28 AM

These people are coming here seeking asylum from their county’s in central america. You know the other side of the Mexico border. Not sneaking in they are asking for help and got there kids taken from them and thrown in camps/ buildings as jails. Seeking asylum is not illegal and you people are ok with this. Our county ia going backwards not forwards im scared for our kids.

Pony June 22, 2018 at 5:29 PM

Navy is just saving Lenner site development costs. No public hearing needed for the Government to flatten hills

KinseyLeaky June 22, 2018 at 5:30 PM

It’s gonna be open season on illegals here in America. It’s not going to be the government the illegals will need to worry about much longer.

mtzman June 22, 2018 at 10:30 PM

Really? Whatever happened to the rule of law?

Mike June 22, 2018 at 5:30 PM

So, I guess the Richmond ICE detention center is full….

Anon June 22, 2018 at 5:32 PM

Interesting, but where were you people 5 years ago when the old wal mart buildings were being converted for this?

I guess it was all just “conspiracy theory” back then.

Time to wake up.

A Nation with no borders is No Nation at all.

Mike June 22, 2018 at 5:47 PM

I get why people are against separating kids from parents (although the main reason that started was to combat drug mule children & human trafficking/child prostitution).

But what is the issue here?

Folks don’t want a prison nearby?

Or is it people don’t want to detain illegal immigrants (criminals)?

Oh, please June 22, 2018 at 8:37 PM

Both. For once, we all agree on an outcome, but for different reasons. Conservatives don;t want this filth here at all. I don;t want all thee criminals in my backyard. And I don’t want them at school with my kids. I don’t want to pay for them at all! This is a very poor investment- we get no return on our money. It is like owning a boat! Liberals don;t want them detailed- they just want them all free and roaming around, causing an increase in crime and decrease in the money that we take home.

mtzman June 23, 2018 at 12:52 AM

Op, you are a textbook example of the Palinization of America.

Mike June 23, 2018 at 4:45 PM

@mtzman. I asked some straight forward questions. From your comment and assumptions I’d guess your view in the mirror is more Palinized than mine.

RSD June 22, 2018 at 5:49 PM

I agree, Law Dog.

Brig June 22, 2018 at 6:01 PM

Either way it’s a good deal for immigrants. Nice tent in a peaceful city, 3 or more meals a day for free. Man I might hop the fence..

KAD June 22, 2018 at 6:06 PM

The Navy is ready to turn over the “cleaned” up areas of the base to the City. They have been working on a price.

BG June 22, 2018 at 6:07 PM
Anon June 22, 2018 at 6:12 PM

i cannot believe i’m reading so many negative comments. this is ONE planet, for everyone. GOD created everything & everyone on this planet. some people think it’s okay to put kids in cages while their parents are in jail for passing an imaginary line? all they want is a better life for their kids. Stop being so damn selfish.

KinseyLeaky June 22, 2018 at 6:29 PM

@Anon
You are exactly part of the problem whether you get it or not!
What do you not understand about the phrase “illegally coming into this country” means? It means you don’t belong here period if you come in illegally!
I swear you crybaby no border shouting marshmallows are the downfall of this country.

grandmato3 June 22, 2018 at 6:33 PM

Amen to that. This is trumps issue, his error, his arrogance and his dislike of brown people. The city of Concord has no say on Federal land so go email the president if you’re so upset. He is best at wagging the dog and with the republicans in charge of congress, they can’t seem to do anything either. Can’t wait to vote this November, they call it a Blue Wave.

Original G June 22, 2018 at 6:36 PM

Break into Mexico by crossing their border illegally, OH and bring along your kids and see what happens ! ! ! !

Think the Mexican government will let you keep your kids ? ?

Think the Mexican government will give you a court date then turn you loose in their country to roam around ? ?

hill June 22, 2018 at 6:41 PM

I know you cant comprehend it, but if everyone in a country that wants a better life moves to countries where there is a better life, You lose that better life. Look at if everyone in Antioch, Pittsburgh, Oakland, Richmond all just moved to Walnut Creek for a better life, walnut creek feed , housed and gave them medical all paid for by walnut creek residents. Same thing is happening but iits spread out and closing in. This is why so many other countries are turning away people.

Elwood June 22, 2018 at 11:46 PM

Right on!

Let’s invite everyone in the world to come here and sponge off Uncle Stupid.

Pretty soon this country would be just another third world s******e like the one they left.

“My neighbor Jose gave me a hard look, so now I am seeking asylum with my bambinos.”

G. June 23, 2018 at 9:33 AM

So exactly how long after a nation of immigrants is created (1776) do they get to close the gates? Literally all of your families immigrated here, many illegally, in the last 8 generations. But because we had the advantage of our ancestors doing all of the hard work, we get to sit here and wag our finger only 6 to 8 generations later?

Get real, lets call this what it really is. A large portion of grown white adults are scared of people who act and look different from them. They don’t understand them and are far too entitled to try. Your ineptitude to adjust will ultimately be your downfall.

Things change, and fast. Quit whinning and learn to share.

Never Enough June 22, 2018 at 6:17 PM

I do believe separating families is horrible. But having said that, where would all these people go, where would they find shelter, food, water, shower. There is obviously no cheap apartments, no cheap rent, do they just walk the streets with young kids following along.

Serious questions with no answers!

Lambie June 22, 2018 at 7:36 PM

How about stay/go back home? Problem solved.

Anon June 22, 2018 at 6:18 PM

Mexico is about to elect a Marxist as the new prez Mexico is about 10 years away from becoming Venezuela with a Chavez style leader. Expect a massive flood coming to the US.

Badge1104 June 22, 2018 at 6:33 PM

America always had an immigration policy and would not allow illegal immigration. The Country would meter the people who come in and sometimes increase the flow, sometimes decrease the flow depending on the absorption. Now we have the Democratic party and all the liberals who just want open unrestricted immigration to flood an extra 100 million in. for some reason they really prefer that the people come from poor Hispanic countries. it worries me greatly as to who’s gUoing to pay for this? And what about our own poor?

Michael Langley June 22, 2018 at 11:11 PM

Comprehensive Immigration Laws were passed in 1917 and revised with quotas in 1924. Prior to that, only about 2% of immigants were turned away due to ill health. Of course specific laws that excluded all immigrant laborers from China were in place as well as some policies that required immigrants be free and white. Even literacy tests were a 20th Century afterthought.

As far as economics, one of the engines that keep the USA running has been immigration. Birth rates fall after a few generations, and the elder population expands with advances in medicine. Countries that discourage immigration find the age population graph to be an inverted pyramind and the working population cannot support the larger elderly population.

Finally, the Democratic Party has not supported unrestricted immigration. Historically the Republican Party has supported more immigration for cheaper labor. A bipartisan immigration reform bill that increased border security while giving a path to citizenship to some undocumented did pass the Senate during the Obama Administration, but the House refused to bring it to the floor for a vote. The figure of an extra 100 million immigrants comes from where?

dltravers June 23, 2018 at 7:24 AM

Not true. It was nearly impossible to legally immigrate the the US between 1928 and 1968. IN 1968 the laws were changed to allow chain migration and made immigration much easier.

In 1928 immigration was shut off because the Europeans were not integrating into society but keeping to themselves in separate communities.

Those of us who have been around a while have seen the massive change this has brought to our communities making the Bay Area unlivable for the average income person. Its supply and demand, you have a massive supply of people who want to live here and a limited amount of housing and land in the Bay Area.

I remember when a dishwasher could afford an apartment in San Francisco on one income. The left does not understand basic economics due to their control of our education system.

Bryan June 23, 2018 at 7:55 AM

Michael. As a fellow educator. Thank you for using facts to craft your argument.

Middleman June 22, 2018 at 6:44 PM

Oh Claycord comments, you never fail to make my day! These comments are hilarious! Right and Left alike, don’t know whether to like this or hate it. The Right wants a prison camp, but, they don’t want 40,000 Guanacos and Hondureños in their backyard. The Left are waxing lyrical about how wonderful it will be to have 40,000 Guanacos and Hondureños in their backyard and think it’s jolly spiffing that parents and kiddies will be housed together……but then they realise that those families will be in Cali-Dachau. Y’all are all over the place thinking “oh what is someone in my political camp supposed to think about this? Someone please tell me!”. This might sharpen your toolbox – if this goes ahead, property prices will go through the floor. Then folks from Antioch will start looking down their noses at Claycord residents, the way we currently look down our noses at them. In the meantime though, I’ll just keep on reading the comments and having a great big belly laugh at y’all tying yourselves in knots. Fantabulous!!

KinseyLeaky June 22, 2018 at 6:47 PM

Listen people, they are here illegally, so America shouldnt worry about where to put anyone as everyone of them needs to be sent right back across the border where they came from.
America needs to harden the stance against the illegals and forcebly stop them from coming across and yes I mean forceably men, women and kids.

You wanna come to America you come in thru port of entry legally otherwise you get forcebly stopped, removed and thrown back across.
That’s right I have no empathy at all towards illegal immigrants.

Build a wall, set up guard towers with snipers and anyone seen crossing illegally doesn’t make it 10 feet. Get serious with this BS letting em thru and staying.

Savagette June 22, 2018 at 9:02 PM

Amen to that!!!!!!

The Reasonable Man June 23, 2018 at 1:32 AM

Visa overstays have exceeded those entering illegally every year since 2007, and there have been half a million more overstays than illegal entries since 2007. No amount of guard towers or walls will prevent immigrants from legally entering with a visa, then overstaying when the visa expires. Fix the system. The wall will simply be your tax dollars going into Trumps pocket when the wall contracts go to his businesses.

ZZ June 22, 2018 at 6:50 PM

This will create (temporary) jobs for civilians!

Chicken Little June 22, 2018 at 7:00 PM

The left thinks all the illegal immigrants should be with their families, right? Well, this is where their families are.

Jim from Con June 22, 2018 at 7:04 PM

These people came into this country illegally. Follow the laws of the country and do it legally and your welcome to stay in America. If not, please leave.

Lambie June 22, 2018 at 7:41 PM

Agreed

East bay native June 22, 2018 at 7:48 PM

@Jim from Con. Well said Jim.

mtzman June 23, 2018 at 1:02 AM

So, if we were to change the laws to make their coming into the country legal, you’d be cool with that?

Resident June 22, 2018 at 7:19 PM

This is a great idea. A Win-Win.

Presumably this would create local jobs, or atleast utilize local businesses for food, transport, security etc. It would also detain illegal aliens together, no separation of “families”

It is federal/DOD property so the state can’t release them on to our streets while we foot the bill for their benefits.

And in a year or two when a judge finds their asylum claims to be fictitious, which let’s be honest, probably 80-90% are. Then they will be sent back to from whence they came.

Cicero June 22, 2018 at 7:27 PM

Oh, this is Brilliant! Come, on, leftists. Your perfect opportunity to practice what you preach.

Perhaps Mark, Nancy, and Hill can be there to cut the ribbon.

Graceful June 22, 2018 at 8:12 PM

Perhaps you should all talk to your local realtor. those of you who own property and homes that will be within a mile or two of this, or any city that borders Concord. The local real estate market will tank. 47K is another city in and of itself, and it is unskilled, untrained, and uneducated people that will need instant Medical, Education (schools?), and aid. Somehow once again our own citizens are footing the bill for folks who have broken the law, whether pro-illegal immigration folks want to acknowledge it or not. What do you tell those who have gone through the immigration system legally?

concord landlord June 22, 2018 at 8:13 PM

Just like his rent control policy this is just another feather in the cap of Edi Birsan and his view of Utopia.

Amy June 22, 2018 at 10:06 PM

I agree. Concord is not Berkeley. Yet.

Bobfished June 22, 2018 at 8:15 PM

Anyone who breaks the law should be put into a detention center, deported and told to come back legally.

Mika June 22, 2018 at 9:16 PM

Why can’t they wait on the Mexico side of the border? What kind of accommodations would Mexico provide? Stop letting them in!!!

Ricardoh June 22, 2018 at 9:19 PM

If it wasn’t for democrats and Rinos we wouldn’t have this problem. They just don’t get it. They’re more interested in votes and special interests then in actually helping citizens. MAGA

Cicero June 22, 2018 at 9:49 PM

And, when its declared ‘illegal’ ……………..
Let Them All Loose!!!!!!!!
HaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHa.
Utopia Unleashed.
To be ‘managed’ by catholic/lutheran/jewish ‘charities’.
HaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHa……………..
and paid for by ‘you know who’

‘When will the fools ever learn……when will they learn.’

NativeConcordGirl June 22, 2018 at 10:15 PM

Sure..let them suck up all our resources and crowd our city. What country would do any of this for us? California is in the black now right? We can afford to house, feed, educate, etc. because we have money to burn. Our roads suck, we have our OWN people who are in need, and we cant even get anything done at our DMV in under 6 hrs just to name a couple examples. This would be the stupidest decision ever. Wtf?

Lena June 22, 2018 at 10:18 PM

This just in …. De Saulnier wants illegal immigrants in the country …. just not in his back yard.

Punished June 22, 2018 at 11:22 PM

No kidding!

And Trump’s pissed because of Concord/California’s sanctuary status. So perhaps this is payback? WTF, I don’t want either.

anonymous June 22, 2018 at 10:25 PM

Have said it before….we’d be better off to just annex Mexico now and get it over with. That would give us all kinds of new coastal property for tourism/development, lots of oil and other minerals, plenty of jobs as we upgrade the infrastructure, a much smaller southern border to control, and control of most of the Gulf of Mexico.

Marianne June 22, 2018 at 10:37 PM

I mean really! No, just No! What kind of sense does this make at all. More criminals in the midst of my city….Santa Rita has room-or Alcatraz. With that being said, Good Night.

Wow June 22, 2018 at 10:37 PM

Um, is this real life? There will be 5 of these tent cities and Concord was chosen to potentially be one of them?!? This cannot happen. Why is the government going to waste our hard earned money?! Just send them all back to Mexico! So instead of building homes and commercial retail which would boost Concord’s economy and potentially raise home values the government stiffs us with a tent city with thousand of illegal immigrants? Ya, sounds fair, thanks Trump.

James chu June 22, 2018 at 10:49 PM

Why don’t they crack down and clean up our cities and prisons? They’ll save money there, won’t ask us for any more money and maybe make California a better place. Families shouldn’t be separated especially if they haven’t done anything to harm anyone. Inmates that have been convicted more than once, why give them freedom? Or free food, housing, medical, free gym etc? They’re the ones we should be getting rid of.

Well Folks June 22, 2018 at 11:29 PM

For all that think this detention center is a great thing…..well just wait as it will send property values down the toilet

RANDOM TASK June 22, 2018 at 11:33 PM

wow anon is usually so vexing

I mean did he really say one world everyone just take what you want

you are employing anarchy with that theory

seriously allowing a open boarder means you are willing to allow any other country and their people who wants more for their country to take from ours ….so how does that work out …we tax ourselves and give all our worldly effects to anyone who wants them… and then hold hands and hope they don’t decide to kill us …..yeah and what is your plan to give everything away? ….we are listening …I mean you cant say everyone raise your hands and give up with out more description or reference I mean this is not France right …..

these ideas are exactly what our enemies want us to do ….

give up without a fight ……I sure hope your name goes in the history books of what led to the demise of opening boarders and allowing anyone and everyone to take what ever they want …..

funny how our for fathers made sure to allow us to bear arms and one party wants to take that right away as they allow anyone to steal legally as they steal money from school children and their right to education

because under your so called higher vision how do we pay for giving everything to the world ….and before you say the world wants to give us anything remember who our great 3 enemies are ….

under your vision or rather farce this country is taken apart ….so either that is what you really want or can not see this idea or agenda or platform is not attainable ….it only leads to he destruction of America

uhhhhhnoooooo June 23, 2018 at 12:05 AM

Now, as I see it, by the time that I retire, There will be no social security, now where is that money going that I am now puting into it? I am so scared.

stillretired June 23, 2018 at 12:20 AM

Open borders, open detention centers.

stillretired June 23, 2018 at 12:22 AM

Open borders, open detention centers

Bella June 23, 2018 at 2:26 AM

Outrage is my response. Why is Concord the dumping ground for everything. I live in unincorporated concord and I’m furious about this. Why not change the plans for Alameda Naval Air Base and house them there.

That is only less than 5 miles from a neighborhood I worked hard to live in safely and still do. I’ve already to had to deal with the homeless drug users that invaded the area under the bridge from me. No Way I say and for the taxes we pay in California, no way…

Get Off My Lawn June 23, 2018 at 6:41 AM

Please stop referring to detention centers as concentration camps. Have some respect for history and the millions of Jews that died in those camps. Jews were forced to leave their homes to go to these camps, they were not migrants choosing to enter a country illegally.

I’m tired of the right and left comparing leaders they don’t like to Hitler. To compare Trump or Hillary to Hitler lessens what a monster he was. It’s disrespectful to those that suffered under him and those who fought a war to remove him from power.

Anonymous June 23, 2018 at 8:18 AM

Thanks DeSaulnier, thanks a lot.

We recall Mark DeSaulnier very publicly refusing to attend Trumps inauguration and constantly trying to pick a fight with him .

I bet Trump remembers too. When it came time to pick sites there
was a certain political bias towards our representatives .

That’s what they call hardball. DeDaulnier picks a fight and Trump finishes it.

Me June 23, 2018 at 8:53 AM

That is why we voted for DeSaulnier. Trump is a danger to our Republic. We need people to fight him because too many citizens have been fooled by him. Too many people are clueless to history and don’t see what is happening.

Hammer Time June 23, 2018 at 11:19 AM

Mark is a Jelly Fish Puppet of the Democratic party.

Change June 23, 2018 at 8:51 AM

I don’t care do you…… such a sad administration

Cryin' Chuck June 23, 2018 at 10:41 AM

That was in response to the media spewing their lies constantly about this administration and not being held accountable for doing so. And you bought it. Yea…laws and class do not apply to the Liberals.

Dr Jellyfinger June 23, 2018 at 9:20 AM

You can almost see the property values, like little dollar sign$ just spinning down the toilet… down, down, down….

Good call by Trump, place the problem in CA. with those who support it.

And why not?

We can just ignore the laws of our nation the same as the detainees did.

Everybody ignores the law…. Deportation? LoL! no way! That’s not “nice”

But we’d do anything to make welcome the univited, undocumented, foreign nationals who came here illegally… not fleeing oppression or seeking sanctuary. Let’s be honest, they are seeking USD and a free ride… they will get it and they won’t respect us for it. Why should they?

Anonymous June 23, 2018 at 9:34 AM

“We are working with Congressman Mark DeSaulnier.. and Pelosi to gather information.. “ blah , blah , blah.

Tell you what, they can gather all the information they want , but they have zero input. DeSaulnier twisted the tigers tail and is finding out about payback.

But don’t worry , DeSaulnier will figure out how to raise taxes over this crisis.

ZZ June 23, 2018 at 9:56 AM

So I suppose Trump is “sticking it” to Alabama and Arizona too? They are on the list for these camps.

This will thin out the illegalls living in Concord for sure if this goes through at the CNWS. Oh no, who will take all those jobs Americans don’t want? Nothing ever got done before they came! America was nothing before them!

KG June 23, 2018 at 10:03 AM

As usual, the hate is seeping out of my computer this morning.

jimgraves June 23, 2018 at 10:19 AM

at the rent prices around here im gonna take a spanish course, claim to be a mexican refugee and move in to the base

Justyfiable anger June 23, 2018 at 10:44 AM

The homeless, special needs population, the elderly, are far more deserving than a bunch of invaders. Criminals, many of them. All advised by … who?

Dr Jellyfinger June 23, 2018 at 5:27 PM

JA is absolutely right! We let Americans sleep under bridges but fawn all over foreign nationals here illegally ( that’s PC for “Illegal Aliens”).

Justyfiable anger June 24, 2018 at 6:26 AM

I wish I wasn’t right. But it is nice to have more phraseology, for polite company. Yanno, for outside the political thread.

BagsFlyFree June 23, 2018 at 11:29 AM

The question becomes, if this goes through…..how will the local population step up to prove its not a nimby in disguise? Mark D. poked the Bigly, and now he may get bit back.

Will there be designated visitor and group areas where volunteers can help with clothing, consumables, entertainment, professional advice, tutors?

Will local restaurants be rewarded with contracts to help connect the area as welcoming and not bow to Sysco slop rations?

Will religious/charitable organizations coordinate with the base and make this space more hospitable vs. a FEMA tent disaster zone? Playgrounds, shade areas, turf areas etc.

Concord can make itself an example here and shine BIGLY, or wilt under a NIMBY disguise. What say you Concord???

BFF Out!!!

Hammer Time June 23, 2018 at 1:26 PM

Great Reply

Lena June 23, 2018 at 2:24 PM

I see nothing wrong with NIMBY. We choose where we live to maximize our enjoyment of our homes and our surroundings, as places where we spend our hours away from work to relax and participate in family life. We invest in the community, doing volunteer work and watching the area governnents to make sure they don’t go off the rails destroying the area with poor decisions. We are taxed to death for the privileges we enjoy and we have every right to demand our investment in the future is protected.

What I see wrong is NIMBY when you “passed a resolution affirming Concord’s commitment to being a welcoming, inclusive, tolerant and supportive community for all.” Now they start backpeddling on that resolution. Which is it going to be, NIMBY, or “welcoming, inclusive, tolerant, and supportive .. for all?” They can’t have it both ways.

Boycott the Circus June 23, 2018 at 12:12 PM

What is all the backlash for? Y’all for illegals yet you don’t want them within 100 feet of you. LoL

Randy June 23, 2018 at 12:17 PM

The NWS is a mess. Over 12 years and nothing to show. Now someone else has a plan and will execute it.

KinseyLeaky June 23, 2018 at 12:44 PM

Kids living in chain link enclosures is better conditions where every single one of them came from.
The so called parents they came with here knew of the consequences.

What is the big deal about kids..it’s always about kids and children in any news.

Womp womp…

Anon June 23, 2018 at 1:25 PM

Many have been calling for more housing in the Bay Area, what’s the issue?

Crolique June 23, 2018 at 2:24 PM

Presidio of San Francisco, former army base, is still a federal property … Just saying …

Crolique June 23, 2018 at 2:27 PM

Presidio of San Francisco, former army base, is still a federal property … Just saying … would be so sweet.

Anonymous June 23, 2018 at 4:08 PM

Of course we have the old air station near Oakland. The idiot mayor of Oakland incurred Trumps wrath and she should be holding her breath hoping DeSaulniers district gets screwed.

Silva June 23, 2018 at 10:47 PM

Haha! I wouldn’t be surprised if he tried to vanquish Mayor Schaaf by screwing Alameda, except I think the NAS hasn’t been sitting there abandoned.

Forsythe June 23, 2018 at 5:55 PM

Ever since President Trump was elected, some have suggested that California should secede from the United States and become its own sovereign nation. And to take it further, even without the backing of the United States, California has the might, the money, and the military to easily annex Mexico. Thereby creating the new nation of California/Mexico. What to name it? “Mexifornia” comes to mind.

(See Amazon Book — Mexifornia: A State of Becoming).
https://www.amazon.com/Mexifornia-Becoming-Victor-Davis-Hanson/dp/1893554732

We could do it for the kids. And, and as suggested in a previous post by “anonymous”, the miles of new coastal property.

Mexifornia would need to convene an emergency congress in order to appoint a temporary new President and Vice-President. And to set up the apparatus needed to fix future elections.

Proposed President: Maxine Walters
Proposed Vice-President: Nancy Pelosi

Of course, if Hillary had won, none of this immigration dust-up would have happened. Oh wait, Hillary DID win. Once Robert Mueller completes his Russia witch hunt, the deep state will once again prevail.

USA Today — California to secede from U.S.?
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation-now/2016/11/10/calexit-possible-california-secede-us/93581688/

THE BLACK KNIGHT June 23, 2018 at 9:05 PM

Forsythe,

“And to take it further, even without the backing of the United States, California has the might, the money, and the military to easily annex Mexico.”

What might and military do you believe that California has to subdue Mexico to make it safe for annexation, without the backing of the United States?

Forsythe June 24, 2018 at 6:10 AM

California has lots of existing bases (the military) and the 5th largest economy in the world (the might). And I certain that between President Maxine Walters and Vice-President Nancy Pelosi, Mexifornia would do fine.

THE BLACK KNIGHT June 27, 2018 at 8:25 PM

Forsythe,

It doesn’t matter how many military bases California has, because the “military” option that you have presented would be done “without the backing of the United States,” thereby suggesting that the United States military would have retreated from California as well as having removed ALL military assets and other federal assets from the state. The federal government wouldn’t just leave all military assets in California for a successor government to use. Then a draft would need to be instituted so that California had a military to use.

You did say “California has the might, the money, and the military to easily annex Mexico.” It read as if “the money” meant California’s economy and “the might” as something else, and not that “the might, the money” both meant California’s economy.

The problem with your statement “Oh wait, Hillary DID win,” is that under the system that we have, 5 California counties don’t get to choose the winning candidates for an entire nation.

Now, how do expect that California would be able to secede from the Union? States have tried to secede from the Union before and it didn’t work! As far as secession goes, a city or cities can secede from a county, a county can secede from a city or cities, a county or counties can secede from a state, but a state or states CAN’T secede from the Union.

94523 June 23, 2018 at 8:45 PM

I need to talk to Peter Fonda or his sister Hanoi Jane before can form an opinion on this subject.

Regular Guy June 23, 2018 at 9:18 PM

The left has lost their way on immigration:
https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2017/07/the-democrats-immigration-mistake/528678/

While we should probably increase the opportunities for legal immigration, we should similarly ramp up our efforts at thwarting those who would come here illegally. This includes building the wall.

Deep rooted June 23, 2018 at 10:53 PM

Don’t forget that you are all on stolen land. You are here because of your immigrant ancestors. The hypocrisy indeed lives on.

Justyfiable anger June 24, 2018 at 6:34 AM

An even more current hypocrisy is our politicians robbing us blind ( most of them wealthy beyond our wildest dreams ), while telling us we need to be more generous.

Hope Johnson June 24, 2018 at 8:09 AM

Justifiable anger makes an important point here. Many issues stem directly from this economic situation that is killing the middle class.

Xennial June 24, 2018 at 3:05 AM

So many posts from people I have never seen posting on Claycord before. Trolls?

Did anybody actually read the proposal?
The proposal does NOT involve illegal immigrants. The proposal is for holding LEGAL immigrants, i.e. asylum seekers, while they wait for a hearing in immigration court.

This proposal is terrible for Concord at least because we would lose our significant investment in time and money in planning the Naval Weapons Station Reuse project. Similarly, the Navy would lose at least some of the costs in the time and money they have invested into preparing the land for transfer. Furthermore a tent city would look terrible, literally and figuratively, and depress property values.

Finally, there is no pressing need to actually detain asylum seekers while they await a hearing. The goal is to ensure that these people, who have properly requested entry at a port of entry, actually show up to their hearings in immigration court. The most expensive way to ensure compliance is to detain them the entire time until their hearing. Other ways of ensuring compliance are with things like ankle monitors, check-ins, incentives and disincentives are much cheaper and still maintain 97+% compliance, according to the conservative think tank the Cato Institute: https://www.cato.org/blog/alternatives-detention-are-cheaper-indefinite-detention

Antler June 25, 2018 at 1:25 AM

Yes.

Anonymous June 24, 2018 at 9:22 AM

Xennial

Did you read the article you cited? It cost $18000 per person to monitor those folks, and no , they didn’t have 97% compliance.

Xennial June 24, 2018 at 3:43 PM

From the Cato article :
In the New Orleans program, the court appearance rate for participants was 97 percent and the program cost $1,430 per year per client. The cost and success of the programs vary considerably.

If past experience is any guide, these ATD programs could ensure that 90 percent of immigration court orders are carried out. That is less than perfect compliance, but it is far cheaper, more humanitarian, and less of a political disaster for this administration.

Tim June 24, 2018 at 7:41 PM

This is the result of a sanctuary policy passed by your representatives.
The Feds are just taking advantage of our liberal attitudes toward illegal immigration. Didn’t think we’d care!

KAD June 24, 2018 at 7:56 PM

Mattis said that they are looking at 3 bases. 2 in Texas and 1 in Arkansas.

Not a fan of Mark S June 24, 2018 at 8:06 PM

It is interesting that those who are full blown for immigration (and those that paid into a funding campaign based on a falsely media driven campaign using a little girl who had NOT lost her mother or was NOT separated), are now saying not in my back yard. Yes- they should be in your back yard as that is what you support. Let the folks who don’t agree with our ugly government in CA, move out- and we will- house values will tank. Also, it is interesting if you follow the alleged clean up of the CNWS, and see how far you get. Make a call to the Navy, CA State, or EPA, and see what they say. Read all about the “clean up” online. Then look at all the brain & other cancer deaths in the area. Ask them if there is a coorelation. They wont admit to it, and it will be too late when it finally leaks. There is a reason CNWS has been empty for so long. Yet all of you complain about our Federal Government. It is the CA Gov’t that does not have our best interest in mind.

Dr Jellyfinger June 25, 2018 at 7:48 AM

The Sanctuary City of Concord, CA. does not wish to host these poor unfortunates?
Or is it that they object to them being kept in custody at all?
Does anyone actually believe the USA is capable of supporting an unlimited number of foreign nationals to flood into our country?
Why should we be forced to accept, and PAY for this BS?

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