Claycord – Talk About Politics

May 18, 2018 19:05 pm · 168 comments


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lsbeaver May 18, 2018 at 7:13 PM

PLEASE do not vote for ANY incumbents this June! They are NOT getting the job done…………especially GUN CONTROL! Thank you.

Local May 18, 2018 at 7:14 PM

Russia Worked to Help Donald Trump in 2016 Election, Senate Intelligence Committee Says

The Senate intelligence committee says it agrees with a 2017 assessment by intelligence agencies that Russia intervened in the presidential election earlier to hurt the candidacy of Democrat Hillary Clinton and to help Donald Trump.

Senate Intelligence Committee Chairman Richard Burr said in a statement Wednesday that his staff has spent 14 months “reviewing the sources, tradecraft, and analytic work, and we see no reason to dispute the conclusions.”

Badge1104 May 18, 2018 at 10:04 PM

Oh give it a rest!
I’m so tired about hearing this supposed Russian collusion with no proof what so ever even after year of thorough investigation!
we are so happy that Trump is president because we’re doing better than we have in years, thanks to his stimulating the economy and the tax breaks!

Badge1104 May 18, 2018 at 10:11 PM

Oh give it a rest!
a year of Investigation has turned up nothing!
We love what Trump is doing! and we personally are doing better than we have in 10 years in our family because of him.

Doh May 18, 2018 at 10:56 PM

Badge1104- You love what Trump is doing? What, like screwing up everything he touches, alienating our allies, helping that Chinese cell-phone company while they approve $1.2 billion investment in his Indonesian venture, pulling out of all our agreements without naming 1 accurate thing as to why, the tax cuts for the wealthy and big business? His new slogan are Breaking American Promises Again. and Making America Alone

AlwaysBePositive May 19, 2018 at 8:14 AM

b…Watergate investigation-2 years, Whitewater investigation-4 years, Benghazi investigation-3 years. Check economic growth facts-the economy continues to improve at essentially the same rate is has been for the last 6 years. Tax breaks-enjoy the small increase in your take home pay now, because adding $1.5 trillion in fiscal stimulus to a growing economy is recessionary at best, greedy at worst. Inflation is coming, and it is going to eat up your tax break and more.

Law Dog May 19, 2018 at 8:41 AM

Local put a sock in it.

Law Dog May 19, 2018 at 8:43 AM

Local, put a sock in it.

Captain Bebops May 19, 2018 at 5:59 PM

Of course the US never has interfered with any foreign elections, right?

Captain Bebops May 19, 2018 at 6:06 PM

Of course the US has never interfered in any foreign elections, right?

Miller May 19, 2018 at 10:56 PM

Don Jr. met with the Russians at Trump Tower and 36 minutes later Trump tweets about “Hillary’s missing emails” for the very first time. US intelligence didn’t know about the Wikileaks emails at that point.

I’m sorry that Hannity and Tucker are spinning the crap about of the story.

So go ahead and tell me how Trump won the election and Retuers/AP/Times/WSJ reporters who have been injured in warzones are full of crap, while Hannity and Tucker are the true journalists.

Nunya May 20, 2018 at 6:45 AM

What even is the definition of collusion? Other than the Democrats being butt hurt that they lost.

covfee May 20, 2018 at 2:57 PM

The investigations of collusion have (so far) brought charges against nineteen people, three companies, and received five guilty pleas. While proving that Trump personally committed collusion is an uphill battle, proving that he committed obstruction of justice will be much easier. While I don’t know if he intended to break the law or not, it appears that he surrounded himself with people who did.

Local May 18, 2018 at 7:16 PM

Russia Worked to Help Donald Trump in 2016 Election, Senate Intelligence Committee Says

The Senate intelligence committee says it agrees with a 2017 assessment by intelligence agencies that Russia intervened in the presidential election earlier to hurt the candidacy of Democrat Hillary Clinton and to help Donald Trump.

Senate Intelligence Committee Chairman Richard Burr said in a statement Wednesday that his staff has spent 14 months “reviewing the sources, tradecraft, and analytic work, and we see no reason to dispute the conclusions.”

Elwood May 18, 2018 at 9:23 PM

It’s not as if we never meddled in another country’s elections.

Did the report contain the dreaded c-word?

Badge1104 May 18, 2018 at 10:25 PM

Actually Obama tried to interfere with the elections in Israel and Russia.

covfee May 20, 2018 at 3:07 PM

Lies – How would the conservative media have responded to the Obama administration shutting down all social media and suspected websites?

Local May 18, 2018 at 7:18 PM

Justice Department and F.B.I. Are Investigating Cambridge Analytica

The Justice Department and the F.B.I. are investigating Cambridge Analytica, the now-defunct political data firm, and have sought to question former employees and banks that handled its business, according to an American official and other people familiar with the inquiry.

Prosecutors have questioned potential witnesses in recent weeks, telling them that there is an open investigation into Cambridge Analytica — which worked on President Trump’s election and other Republican campaigns in 2016.

LocaI May 18, 2018 at 7:21 PM


“There is no doubt that Russia undertook an unprecedented effort to interfere with our 2016 elections,” Burr stated. “I look forward to completing the committee’s inquiry and issuing our findings and recommendations to the American people.”

Dr Jellyfinger May 18, 2018 at 9:22 PM

So Local….. after saying Republicans are full of Sh*t over and over and over again….
Now you BELIEVE them?!!!!

Nunya May 19, 2018 at 6:27 AM

The story fits the liberal narrative, so local aka aspirin aka randy believes it.

Dr Jellyfinger May 18, 2018 at 7:23 PM

Let the battle begin……

Nunya May 18, 2018 at 8:35 PM

For the love of God, no more Democrats!

I can’t pay any more for gas.

covfee May 20, 2018 at 5:47 PM

Luckily now is a great time to get a new fuel efficient vehicle. If you are a Costco member, their program very competitive and you can still get additional incentives.

Elwood May 18, 2018 at 9:26 PM

It’s not as if we never meddled in another country’s elections.

Did the report contain the dreaded c-word?

Badge May 19, 2018 at 8:40 AM

Funny, our neighbors just came back from their second international trip in a year and they were reporting that everywhere they went that the foreigners thought very well of Trump and had new respect of America as a strong force for peace in the world. They felt safer. this is the opposite of what are liberal media tries to report

Sick of it May 19, 2018 at 10:34 AM

That’s the same thing I saw when traveling.
What is said in the media should always be taken with a grain of salt.
MSN yesterday after the Texas shooting had already claimed a AR15 a shot gun and a pistol was used. Even though the sheriff was live stating it was a shotgun and pistol. Keep pushing there agenda to destroy this country with there lies.
Always fact check what you read. It’s a huge eye opener

Randy May 19, 2018 at 10:38 AM

You should take a trip to Israel and report back.

Forsythe May 19, 2018 at 11:46 AM

Where were the Democrats?
They were not there in Jerusalem to celebrate the Embassy move, but now they speak up – and in favor of our sworn enemies.

Source: Israel National News

Forsythe May 19, 2018 at 11:50 AM

Where were the Democrats?
They were not in Jerusalem to celebrate the Embassy move. But now they speak up – in favor of our enemies.

HappyPappy May 19, 2018 at 12:10 PM

Randy –
A fair and reasonable question:
Based on my reading several of your comments over the last couple weeks, I’m wondering if you’re proud of your factual confusions?

Miller May 19, 2018 at 12:31 PM

I’ve been to Jerusalem since the embassy move announcement.

You’ll see bumper stickers and banners showing Trump support, but those are from the ultra-orthodox population (big hats and sideburns crowd). It may like Israel supports Trump, but in reality it’s the ultra-orthodox that turn up the polls with nearly 100% voter turnout.

To put that into perspective, if “Did Not Vote” was a candidate in the 2016 US election, they would’ve won 471 electoral votes. Trump would’ve had 16.

Elwood May 19, 2018 at 2:05 PM

Randy, don’t keep us in suspense!

Tell us about YOUR trip to Israel!

Miller May 19, 2018 at 4:45 PM

I’m saying a big chunk of those “Did Not Vote” were thanks to people thinking Hillary had a 99% chance at winning. Dems really didn’t show up because it seemed pointless. Oops.

Lena May 20, 2018 at 9:25 PM

Aspirin. post less is what your clue is.

HappyPappy May 19, 2018 at 12:14 PM

Randy –
A fair and reasonable question:
Based on my reading several of your comments over the last couple weeks, I’m wondering if you’re proud of your factual confusions?

Original G May 19, 2018 at 12:28 PM

Well now ….. what was that about rocks n glass houses ? ? ?

Democrat member of Congress Rep. Hank Johnson during a US House committee hearing asked a US Navy Admiral if transferring 8,000 Marines to Guam would cause the island to “become so overly populated that it will tip over and capsize.” ”

An in case you ‘re tempted to frantically search for it on Snopes
I’ll save you time.

It’s not just Pelosi and Schumer . . . . .

Miller May 19, 2018 at 2:15 PM

Oh, we’re playing this game? I present you with Republican Dan Quayle:

The Holocaust was an obscene period in our nation’s history. I mean in this century’s history. But we all lived in this century. I didn’t live in this century.

It’s time for the human race to enter the solar system.

It isn’t pollution that’s harming the environment. It’s the impurities in our air and water that are doing it.

I deserve respect for the things I did not do.

My friends, no matter how rough the road may be, we can and we will, never, never surrender to what is right.

Hawaii has always been a very pivotal role in the Pacific. It is in the Pacific. It is a part of the United States that is an island that is right here.

We’re going to have the best-educated American people in the world.

What a terrible thing to have lost one’s mind. Or not to have a mind at all. How true that is.

Unfortunately, the people of Louisiana are not racists.

I love California, I practically grew up in Phoenix.

If we don’t succeed we run the risk of failure.

For NASA, space is still a high priority.

It’s wonderful to be here in the great state of Chicago.

Republicans understand the importance of bondage between a mother and child.

Welcome to President Bush, Mrs. Bush, and my fellow astronauts.

We have a firm commitment to NATO, we are a part of NATO. We have a firm commitment to Europe. We are a part of Europe.

Original G May 19, 2018 at 3:08 PM

All that, . . . surprised he never got around to inventing the Internet.

Miller May 19, 2018 at 11:17 PM

Fred P: I was pointing out that it’s a dumb argument. If we’re going to copy/paste lies from both political parties, the internet is going to run out of storage space.

Miller May 19, 2018 at 2:23 PM

Let’s not forget Trump either. This is a real quote from your Republican president.

“Look, having nuclear—my uncle was a great professor and scientist and engineer, Dr. John Trump at MIT; good genes, very good genes, OK, very smart, the Wharton School of Finance, very good, very smart—you know, if you’re a conservative Republican, if I were a liberal, if, like, OK, if I ran as a liberal Democrat, they would say I’m one of the smartest people anywhere in the world—it’s true!—but when you’re a conservative Republican they try—oh, do they do a number—that’s why I always start off: Went to Wharton, was a good student, went there, went there, did this, built a fortune—you know I have to give my like credentials all the time, because we’re a little disadvantaged—but you look at the nuclear deal, the thing that really bothers me—it would have been so easy, and it’s not as important as these lives are (nuclear is powerful; my uncle explained that to me many, many years ago, the power and that was 35 years ago; he would explain the power of what’s going to happen and he was right—who would have thought?), but when you look at what’s going on with the four prisoners—now it used to be three, now it’s four—but when it was three and even now, I would have said it’s all in the messenger; fellas, and it is fellas because, you know, they don’t, they haven’t figured that the women are smarter right now than the men, so, you know, it’s gonna take them about another 150 years—but the Persians are great negotiators, the Iranians are great negotiators, so, and they, they just killed, they just killed us.”

Silva May 19, 2018 at 6:35 PM

It’s a classic. But there is so much more.

Lena May 19, 2018 at 8:31 PM

Isn’t it wonderful that in this great nation of ours a man like Donald Trump, with what at times appears to be ADHD, can grow up to be President of the United States? Reminds me of Roosevelt who kept his disability hidden for quite some time, but ultimately emerged as one of the nation’s greatest leaders taking us through some of our darkest hours.

Miller May 19, 2018 at 11:08 PM

Yeah, I think the difference was Roosevelt’s disability was physical. Trump’s disability is his brain.

Lena May 20, 2018 at 10:07 PM

Donald Trump has emerged as the loveable “Charlie Brown” of Presidents accomplishing more for the country in one year than others have done in eight, while the Ninth Circuit Court and certain other grouchy members of the GOP acting like Lucy snatching the football at the last minute as he runs to kick.

Dr Jellyfinger May 21, 2018 at 8:16 AM

That’s true Lena, you can’t argue with results…. well, except for the pretzel brained Liberals… they argue with results (good = bad to a rabid bat brained Socialist).

Atticus Thraxx May 21, 2018 at 2:26 PM

Pathos Extremis

Dr Jellyfinger May 21, 2018 at 8:40 PM

Yeah! Ya See? That’s what I meant…
( Atticus knows what the doctors call it).

Randy May 19, 2018 at 3:08 PM

Dimitrios Pagourtzis, the 17-year-old who shot up Santa Fe High School in Texas on Friday, was an ardent Trump fan who had neo-Nazi imagery all over his social media pages.”

And when the NRA/Republican spin is finished, Trump’s base will believe to their bone marrow that the kid was a card carrying Liberal that carried out the plan, devised by Obama & Clinton, paid for by George Soros.

Sick of it May 19, 2018 at 4:20 PM

Why are you so afraid of the NRA besides the fact that the left tells you they are evil? The ignorance amazes me. Why don’t you really learn what it’s about. They offer the best safety training around for the use and storage of firearms. They back competitive shooters that represent us in the olympics. They protect the 2A from the politicians that would love that last safety barrier that was placed by our founding fathers to protect us from them. We fought the war of independence to free our selves from a overbearing tax hungry government. Pretty much what the left is becoming. ( Espeacialy here in CA ). Here is what’s written about NRA membership numbers.

A 2017 Pew Research Center Study found that more than 14 million Americans consider themselves NRA members, above the real membership number of 5 million. This may be attributed to the fact that the NRA has millions more of Americans who support them and will tell pollsters they are members, even when they are not.

That’s a good size number of people that do not create any issues.

Dr Jellyfinger May 19, 2018 at 4:31 PM

So Randy … you want to compare crazies?
Liberal vs Conservative?
Really? And dead kids for your political propaganda?
Classy…. Liberal thing to do.

Rollo Tomasi May 20, 2018 at 11:44 AM

The left needs boogey men like Trump and the NRA. Otherwise their whining would be even more devoid of purpose.

Nunya May 20, 2018 at 12:21 PM

Liberals only believe what their leaders tell them. They are unable to think critically or make rational decisions based on the facts, those pesky things that don’t fit into the liberal narrative.

Funny, I think that is how fascism got started?

Chicken Little May 21, 2018 at 5:41 PM

Aspirin, what do you expect the NRA to do about it? They are a gun rights advocacy group, not a gun control advocacy group. There are plenty of well-funded groups trying to ban guns. What have they done to stop the carnage?

Rollo Tomasi May 25, 2018 at 7:52 AM

Aspirin, lookup the Fix NICS bill and see that the NRA supports it. Or are you too intellectually dishonest to do that?

Justyfiable Anger May 25, 2018 at 8:16 AM

Rollo Tomasi: BINGO. ” Or are you too intellectually dishonest to do that?”

After more than a decade of reading comments of a Political Science stripe, I finally figured that one out. The rat is in the nest. Has been for almost 20 years.

Rollo Tomasi May 25, 2018 at 5:58 PM

Crickets from Aspirin. So predictable.

Chicken Little May 19, 2018 at 4:01 PM

Or we can continue to conduct our elections according to the Constitution. The left will change their minds, anyway, the first time a Democrat wins the electoral vote but not the popular vote.

Dr Jellyfinger May 19, 2018 at 7:59 PM

At least one FBI informant inside Trump camp has been identified (so far).

Lena May 19, 2018 at 8:32 PM

Thete’s nothing wrong with Donald Trump.

Elwood May 19, 2018 at 11:05 PM

Then we can have a country run by CA and NY.

To hell with the other 48. Most of them are just fly over states anyway!

Miller May 19, 2018 at 11:42 PM

If you read the actual report and not just your right-wing blog post:

4 of 50 were stopped by armed civilians
4 of 50 were stopped by unarmed civilians.
Most of the shootings occurred in Texas, one of the friendliest NRA states.

And they go into quite a bit of detail on the Dallas shooter….clearly people don’t need to spend $20,000 on a pre 1986 automatic when someone with a semi-auto AK needs to be neutralized using a bomb-carrying robot, when the entire police force knows his position.

Really impressive spin though from your source article. It was almost convincing until I realized they didn’t actually read the FBI report.

Nunya May 20, 2018 at 6:46 AM

Let’s talk about gun violence being out of control in you poster child city of Chicago then.

Nunya May 20, 2018 at 6:51 AM

Remember folks the Democrats raised the gas tax, almost doubled it, 40% increase. How do you like to pay more? What about RM3, another increase in the tolls. See a pattern here, Democrats want us all to pay more. So why does anyone want to vote for them.


covfee May 20, 2018 at 9:53 AM

“[A]lmost doubled it, 40% increase.” You might want to check your math. As a person who is driving on newly repaired roads, I am happy to see the funds raised being used immediately on their intended purpose.
Would you, as an opponent of having long-needed repairs and improvements done, swear an affirmation that you will never complain about road conditions or traffic?

Nunya May 20, 2018 at 12:53 PM

I didn’t put words in your mouth, I appreciate the same courtesy unless the Democrat’s narrative has driven you so crazy as to be discourteous to anyone who doesn’t parrot the narrative.

As to your question, childish as it is. My point is that we all pay too much taxes already. Why do we need to pay more. Then again liberals hate themselves and love to suffer, so please pay more taxes for the road work we have all paid for not gotten.

P.S. Check your own math, maybe this new math you learned in school isn’t so good after all.

covfee May 20, 2018 at 2:27 PM

Even while asking for courtesy, you can’t help throwing in ad hominem attacks. The increase in gasoline excise tax was $0.12 per gallon, making total excise tax $0.473. Combined with the sales tax and underground storage fees, the state is only collecting $0.583 per gallon. In most arithmetic systems, ~100% != 40%.

I argue that we are not taxed enough, which is why we have deficits.

If you are opposed to the increased taxes, then how do you propose we pay for repairs and expansion of our infrastructure? I would offer conversion of all existing freeways into paid turnpikes, but I doubt that it would decrease the cost to the user overall.

Dr Jellyfinger May 20, 2018 at 4:04 PM

” I am happy to see the funds raised being used immediately on their intended purpose”

Roadwork is always done during the warmer weather… it isn’t some kind of sudden response!

Get real.

covfee May 20, 2018 at 5:37 PM
Nunya May 21, 2018 at 6:31 AM

I assume most liberal are too uninformed to know the difference.

Hey where is Local aka Aspirin aka Randy?

Retired LEO May 21, 2018 at 8:55 AM


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Atticus Thraxx May 21, 2018 at 9:34 PM

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covfee May 20, 2018 at 9:21 AM

I will presume that Aspirin is talking about having an analysis as to how we can reform the current electoral college system to be more equally weighted for all Americans. The current system disproportionately counts rural voters over urban voters, and doesn’t count abroad citizens at all. Some states have already formed a coalition to link their popular vote outcomes to bloc electoral votes as a stopgap, but it remains to be seen how this will play out.

TIFOKCIS May 20, 2018 at 1:32 PM

As the left rages on.

covfee May 20, 2018 at 2:42 PM

Fred – Can you explain what you mean by a “handful of cities” in regards to popular vote? The electoral college outcome has only been at odds with the popular vote four times in our history, two of those being during the last five presidential elections. Further, the majority of elections are decided by direct democracy, making some people question the necessity of an election system that intentionally disconnects votes from voters. Simply pointing to the Constitution isn’t really an argument, as it is a document that we can change if enough people desire so.

Original G May 20, 2018 at 4:51 PM

IF those so called elected public servants running this state had actually been serving the public, there would not be an infrastructure problem.

“California’s infrastructure left out of Gov. Jerry Brown’s budget”

Then there’s moonbeam’s mark on CA that can be seen from space.
His Dad Pat has the Central Valley Water Project which can be seen from space. Guess Pat didn’t let junior play enough with his toy trains when he was little.

But getting back to infrastructure, it’s not like they’re spending “THEIR” money.
Caltrans for example,

An here’s what happens when a reporter asked moonbeam about Caltrans abuses.!

“Caught On Tape: State Workers Drinking Beer While Earning Your Taxpayer Money”

“Caltrans Hit With $570,000 Verdict for Whistleblower Retaliation”

An what about oversight ? ? ? ?
“Legislature ignores Caltrans boondoggles as taxpayers suffer”

“California auditor: Caltrans road work open to waste, fraud, abuse”

But YOU must be OK with all this going on and the wasting of taxpayer dollars because you keep voting for the people allowing this to go on.

Nunya May 21, 2018 at 6:23 AM

Liberals like Covfee love to suffer, it is the only way they can save the Erfth. They don’t want facts because that doesn’t agree with the narrative they are told is the only truth. They just want to be told what to think.

Miller May 20, 2018 at 5:33 PM

All the parents of these school shooters would go back in time if they could be told “hey parents, your son clearly has issues and you have guns at home. If anything happens using your weapons, you’re both getting charged with felonies.” The parents would’ve been pissed by the implication, but I’d bet they’d think twice about keeping their guns randomly accessible throughout the house.

Maybe it’s a bummer if you can’t share your gun safe combo with your 17 year old, but if that law prevents 100 children from getting murdered 5 states over, then screw you and deal with it.

Rollo Tomasi May 22, 2018 at 11:33 AM

Sounds good. Let’s do the same thing with parents of kids who kill or injure while driving under the influence.

Rollo Tomasi May 20, 2018 at 6:47 PM

In 2008, the majority of voters in California voted against Proposition 8. In fact, it was defeated by a larger margin than Hillary’s popular vote win in 2016. Let’s continue to hang our hat on the popular vote.

Miller May 20, 2018 at 7:28 PM

There have been a few hilarious studies that concluded “people who watch no news at all can answer questions about current events better than people who solely watch Fox News.”

Fred P thinks “faulty reasoning” is when people disagree with him – and not when his shows cherrypick facts from current events that fit his favorite host’s narrative. If the network presents the complete facts without cherrypicking, Fred P will become uncomfortable, confused, and even angry, because he trusts Fox News will always be on his side. Fox News doesn’t want to betray Fred’s loyalty, so they tell him exactly what he wants to hear. They don’t want him to miss the Sleep Number commercial for the 5,000th time because Fox News sees Fred P as a couple pennies profit per day, and his viewership gives them a better pitch to the ad buyers at Nutrisystem. So no, Fox News isn’t going to tell Fred the truth when it’s going to make him uncomfortable. They’re going to keep him complacent to help News Corp’s bottom line.

Sorry Fred for using you as an example, that goes out to everyone here that tossing out faulty reasoning Fox News talking points.

Fred P. May 20, 2018 at 10:04 PM


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Atticus Thraxx May 21, 2018 at 9:35 PM

Busted. Hah!

mtzman May 21, 2018 at 12:22 AM

So which version of the Constitution (none of which actually refer to an Electoral College by name) do you constitutional scholars wish to refer to? The original language in Article II, Section 1, Clause 3, the 12th Amendment of 1804, the 15th Amendment of 1870, or the 19th Amendment of 1920? Or do you need to refer to the delegation by the Constitution to Congress of various procedures (see 3 USC 1 et seq.) or to the states (in California see Elections Code sections 7100 et seq. [Democrats]; sections 7300 et seq [Republicans]).

Or, maybe just admit that Aspirin is not as ignorant as fp thinks he is …

Nunya May 21, 2018 at 6:39 AM

Unless you want to pay more in taxes please don’t vote for the Democrats. This state has suffered enough, don’t forget all the fee hikes on the bridge over the years, and now they want yet another one RM3. Don’t forget the gas tax increase, 40%!! When will the Democrats have enough money? We already have a $5B surplus and yet they just want more and more. I can’t afford to keep paying more, can you?

Sick of it May 21, 2018 at 11:14 AM

If there was truly a surplus then why raise taxes to pay for road projects. Keep Drinking the cool aid and believing the Democraps lies. They are fully destroying this state. And it’s is about to the point that it will not be salvagable at all if they remain in office. They want bridge tolls 3 dollars higher now too

Chicken Little May 21, 2018 at 12:09 PM

When everyone talks about the 6 billion dollar surplus, they conveniently forget to mention all of California’s unfunded liabilities.

Elwood May 21, 2018 at 1:16 PM

No, the $6 billion “surplus” merely indicates that other needs went unfunded so Moonbeam could have his “surplus”.

Original G May 21, 2018 at 2:02 PM

Move along . . . Move along, nuthin’ to see here . . .

“Federal Election Commission records show that CrowdStrike, an FBI contractor and private cyber security firm, received a $98,849.84 check from the Democratic National Committee the day after slain DNC staffer Seth Rich was murdered.”

Orifinal G May 21, 2018 at 4:24 PM

All in the family.

“Maxine Waters’ campaign committee will pay daughter $100,000, FEC filings show”

“Rep. Maxine Waters’ campaign committee has paid the California Democrat’s daughter nearly $50,000 this election cycle, with an additional $65,000 forthcoming, campaign finance documents show.

Disclosures with the Federal Election Commission show Karen Waters received $42,862 from Citizens for Waters through a series of nine payments made between May 2017 and January 2018. The most recent payment, of $5,000, was made Jan. 19, according to FEC filings.

The payments to the younger Waters were described as a “slate mailer management fee.

Additional filings with the FEC show Citizens for Waters will pay Karen an additional $65,000 this election cycle for “professional services” related to the mailer.

According to California’s Fair Political Practices Commission, a slate mailer is a mass mailing in support of or opposed to candidates or ballot initiatives.”

Fred P. May 22, 2018 at 6:41 AM

Democrats – rotten to the core.

HappyPappy May 21, 2018 at 4:46 PM

Aspirin has a great sense of humor…….. posting all that hilarious fantasy propaganda. She always posts something silly and eye-roll worthy.

Dr Jellyfinger May 21, 2018 at 6:50 PM

Last year Aspirin the Socialist claimed to have a P & T’s

HappyPappy May 21, 2018 at 7:08 PM

A guess based on the tone of your posts. Then again you could be a woman trapped in a man’s body. Either way…………

Elwood May 21, 2018 at 10:39 PM

What Happy Pappy said!

She sure sounds like a woman to me!

Fred P. May 22, 2018 at 6:40 AM

Once again, aspirin is attempting to diagnose someone as ‘psychotic”…


Because she “worked with surgeons” once upon a time….

Most kids gave up playing doctor after ages 6-7…

Rollo Tomasi May 22, 2018 at 11:28 AM

@ Dr. J:
I think Bruce Jenner made the same claim.

HappyPappy May 22, 2018 at 1:02 PM

Elwood, let’s not demean the ladies okay. I was simply poking fun at the ridiculous comments posted by aspirin and that her tone sort of hints at a male who may be influenced by a mixed up DNA recipe. That’s not meant to claim there’s anything wrong with being that way. Whatever the reasons, aspirin is wrong on many issues. I believe she’s having fun trolling us here and has not much else to do.

Elwood May 21, 2018 at 4:59 PM

Don’t worry, Aspirin.

The country will still be in one piece at the end of Trump’s second term, and much better than it was on 1/20/17.

Dr Jellyfinger May 21, 2018 at 6:34 PM

Yes, but Give Barrack Hussein credit for trying.

TIFOKCIS May 21, 2018 at 6:38 PM

TRUMP outdoes your boy (again).

You said it!


Nunya May 21, 2018 at 7:41 PM

Let us not forget Hussien got the Noble prize for being the first black president.

Dr Jellyfinger May 21, 2018 at 8:18 PM

Yeah… if you call overtaxing the working class as “doing something right”.

Lena May 21, 2018 at 8:33 PM

Aspirin, have you been to the DMV lately?

Atticus Thraxx May 21, 2018 at 9:31 PM

Dang Jelly, you’re on a tear! Hour long Hannity tonight? 😉

Dr Jellyfinger May 21, 2018 at 10:08 PM

I got home early.

Elwood May 21, 2018 at 10:43 PM

“Aspirin May 21, 2018 at 5:09 PM
And the Titanic was unsinkable.”

And as the world’s foremost authority you invented the non sequitur.

Fred P. May 22, 2018 at 6:43 AM

If taxing the hell out of California is “doing something right…”

Fred P. May 22, 2018 at 6:44 AM

Minor correction – obozo was the first HALF-BLACK president.

Randy May 22, 2018 at 7:34 AM

The genius 45 uses an unsecure ohone when tweeting.

Original G May 22, 2018 at 9:36 AM

It’s amazing, what is important to you.

Fred P. May 22, 2018 at 11:22 AM

So what? Do you think he’s going to use an unsecure “ohone” when communicating about issues involving national security?

Since you’re so unhappy in the US, why don’t you move to some third-world $hit-hole where you’ll be happy?

Randy May 22, 2018 at 12:55 PM

Fp I’m sure he has.

Fred P. May 22, 2018 at 7:19 PM

Pure guessing on Randy’s part….just like the rest rest of aspirin’s posts.

Lies and guesses, pretending that’s fact.

The liberals sure don’t have much in the way of facts…. or brains.

Dr Jellyfinger May 22, 2018 at 8:02 AM

Wait…. there’s more!

California Democrats are pushing for free healthcare for illegal aliens,

“State Senator Ricardo Lara (D-Bell Gardens) is leading the charge by reportedly arguing that “California needs to be a laboratory for social change by taking the lead on progressive causes.”

“We are trying to address the fact that, whether you like it or not, our undocumented community needs the care, and we are paying for it anyway,” he reportedly said.

California Democrats are trying to extend the state’s Medi-Cal program this legislative session to nearly 1.2 million illegal immigrant adults who would qualify for it, and “companion bills in the state Assembly and Senate” have already “passed their respective health committees with party-line votes.”

The cost to expand Medicaid coverage to adult illegal immigrants in California is reportedly projected to cost $3 billion annually.

HappyPappy May 22, 2018 at 11:23 AM

See………….there she goes again, that’s funny stuff bordering on insanity. Who wouldn’t laugh at that.
Do you have a team of writers, aspirin?

Original G May 22, 2018 at 11:24 AM

Mutterings of a petty an irrelevant career politician,

“Senate Minority Leader Charles E. Schumer of New York called on the White House Tuesday to remove North Korean leader Kim Jong-un’s image from a commemorative coin marking President Trump’s planned summit with Mr. Kim in Singapore.”

Lena May 22, 2018 at 12:16 PM

Actually, I think he got it for covering his junk instead of his heart during the National Anthem. Very creative, if sort of stupid looking.

Original G May 22, 2018 at 12:43 PM

“… the art of lies and exaggeration to sell a point of view.’

Then there are several liberals here who should be running for elective office.

Silva May 22, 2018 at 1:16 PM

This is exactly what economists and analysts said would happen.

Harley-Davidson took its tax cut, closed a factory, and rewarded shareholders. In September 2017, House Speaker Paul Ryan traveled to a Harley-Davidson plant in Menominee Falls, Wisconsin, to tout the Republican tax bill, which President Trump would sign later that year. “Tax reform can put American manufacturers and American companies like Harley-Davidson on a much better footing to compete in the global economy and keep jobs here in America,” Ryan told workers and company leaders. Four months later and 500 miles away in Kansas City, Missouri, 800 workers at a Harley-Davidson factory were told they would lose their jobs when the plant closed its doors and shifted operations to a facility in York, Pennsylvania — a net loss of 350 jobs. Workers and union representatives say they didn’t see it coming. It wasn’t just Ryan who made promises to Harley-Davidson. Trump in February 2017 met with Harley-Davidson executives and union representatives at the White House. He thanked the company for building in America and predicted its operations would grow. “I think you’re going to even expand — I know your business is now doing very well, and there’s a lot of spirit right now in the country that you weren’t having so much in the last number of months that you have right now,” Trump said. He added that impending changes to “taxing policies,” health care, tariffs, and trade would only make things better.

HappyPappy May 22, 2018 at 2:26 PM

HD failed because it’s products have fallen out of favor and aren’t selling. Their bikes reliability and cost failed to be competitive with the far better Japanese products.
Clearly that was caused by Trump, maybe even GWB, right?

covfee May 22, 2018 at 5:56 PM

Happy – The report isn’t that Harley Davidson failed, rather that the executives screwed their workers and payed their investors after getting their tax break. The tax deal was sold as beneficial to the average worker, but many are still waiting to see that come to fruition.

HappyPappy May 22, 2018 at 7:32 PM

HD is desperately trying to survive. If their products were selling better they would be expanding not closing down factories.

covfee May 22, 2018 at 8:55 PM

Happy – It’s understandable that HD has been struggling, maybe they would be in a better position if they chose to not spend $696M on dividends and stock buybacks.

HappyPappy May 23, 2018 at 8:28 AM

…….or maybe they made the smart business move and took the money and ran while they had the chance.

covfee May 23, 2018 at 9:18 AM

“We want to make it easier for business to create more jobs and more factories to be made in the U.S., and you’re a great example of that,” said Trump to HD executives and union leaders. At what point should we consider an American company to no longer be considered domestic, and have all foreign penalties applied?

By “smart business move” I will presume that you mean for the benefit of the executives and investors. I am of the opposite opinion, the most important people in a company are the workers, followed by executives, and distantly the investors.

HappyPappy May 23, 2018 at 12:21 PM

Where business is concerned workers are merely tools needed to accomplish a task. In the end that task is to make a profit. No profit means no jobs.
You sound like a worker bee. They don’t get much of the honey. Those who take the risk should reap the profit.
You want more………….take the risk.

covfee May 23, 2018 at 4:21 PM

Happy – It’s quite sad if you feel that fellow human beings are simply tools to be discarded when no longer optimally profitable. This neo-liberal capitalistic view is precisely what drove the globalization of markets, and eventually the rise of Trump as a populist who claimed he would put an end to it. You are correct that the interests of a business are profit and growth, which is exactly why they must be regulated from harming workers and the public. The only economically sustainable path forward is to reimplement Stakeholder Theory, either voluntarily or by regulation.

HappyPappy May 23, 2018 at 9:32 PM

That was a feeble attempt to redirect the dialog.

Elwood May 23, 2018 at 11:30 PM

“the most important people in a company are the workers, followed by executives, and distantly the investors.”

You’ve got it exactly backwards.

Without investors there’d be no companies. Have you been smoking Marxist weed? It’s never worked anywhere in history. What makes you think that the workers’ paradise you esteem might have changed?

covfee May 24, 2018 at 6:44 AM

Elwood – I think you are conflating investors with capital, which could be provided from other sources, including ones that don’t demand continual dividends. Neither the investors nor the executives build the product, thus they need the workers. A successful business is one in which the owners treat their workers and the customers as partners, ensuring long term stability and profit. This devotion to investors is the reason that the American Middle Class has been exsanguinated.

I will be interested to see if Trump feels personally slighted by this corporate decision, considering he refers to HD frequently, and decides to retaliate for their actions.

Elwood May 24, 2018 at 4:27 PM

please tell us more about this Capital which requires neither investors nor dividends.
I’d like to have some.

Randy May 22, 2018 at 1:21 PM

Trump Casts Doubt on North Korea Summit in Meeting With Moon

Trump will not meet with anyone smarter then himself

What about those wonderful coins they had made?

Does this mean that the Nobel Prize is pushed back indefinitely as well? 😏

Elwood May 22, 2018 at 2:27 PM

“Does this mean that the Nobel Prize is pushed back indefinitely as well? 😏”

Why would they do that? Obama got one for Presidenting while black.

Fred P. May 22, 2018 at 7:22 PM

Elwood…. you mean half-black.

Randy – on the other hand, everyone that obozo met with WAS smarter than him (meaning obozo).

Dr Jellyfinger May 23, 2018 at 7:13 AM

So…. the FBI had spies planted in the Trump campaign and James Clapper said they were only there to be on the lookout for Russians trying to influence the campaign & Trump should be GLAD they were there!
LoL! Way to shovel the BS there Clapper!

Reminds me of our old building’s old janitor who planted a camera in the Ladie’s Room…. when he got caught he claimed he was only trying to catch the people who were writing graffiti on the wall… I wonder if they could be relatives?

Randy May 23, 2018 at 9:35 AM

Dumbest lawyer I have ever seen.

Michael Cohen’s business partner is a Russian immigrant, who just agreed to cooperate with Government as a possible witness.

Evgeny A. Friedman, aka the “Taxi King” of New York, struck a deal which allows him to avoid jail time, and will help the Government, such as Mueller’s probe, and any other FBI probes, or other federal or state investigations, according to a source for the New York Times, who was reportedly briefed on the deal.

Original G May 23, 2018 at 9:57 AM

What is it about liberals and Taking from others ? ? ?
At least have the decency to give credit to and acknowledge the author’s work product.

To read the entire article the unattributed cut n paste came from,

Original G May 23, 2018 at 11:26 AM

Fans got it right and President Trump got it right too, But, but, but . . .

“The NFL Players’ Association (NFLPA) on Wednesday criticized the league for its new national anthem policy.

In a statement, the union said it would review the new policy and “challenge any aspect of it that is inconsistent with the collective bargaining agreement.”

The union accused the league of contradicting its previous statements, and of ignoring players’ wishes in developing the new policy, which instructs that all team and league personnel should stand for the national anthem.

“The NFL chose to not consult the union in the development of this new ‘policy,’” the union said in a statement. “NFL players have shown their patriotism through their social activism, their community service, in support of our military and law enforcement and yes, through their protests to raise awareness about the issues they care about.” ”

Can you say out of touch with fans ?
Perhaps when team owners offer less money on player contracts because of revenue losses prima donna players might get the message.

Let the liberal sniveling commence.

covfee May 23, 2018 at 11:50 AM

Good for the players union standing up against the owners. This could be resolved quite simply: stop performing the national anthem at sports events. By eliminating the anthem recitation, no one is protesting, and we no longer are trying to enforce a tenuous connection between government and entertainment. The nationalists can be content that no one will show “disrespect” any longer, and the protestors can be content that they are not supporting the status quo.

Randy May 23, 2018 at 11:56 AM

It’s really does nothing. Very broad. Clearly the owners are willing to pay a fine rather than lose a game or player

Rollo Tomasi May 23, 2018 at 12:13 PM

Or the owners can continue to run their league as they see fit, and if players would rather be social justice warriors than get paid handsomely to play a professional sport, they are free to do that. Ain’t freedom grand?

Original G May 23, 2018 at 12:41 PM

Rollo Tomasi …. Spot on , Well Said !

Randy May 23, 2018 at 2:24 PM

I missed the part where players would lose salary.

Susan I. May 23, 2018 at 8:46 PM

It’s sad. The only citizens that have the right to free speech are the ones Trump & you agree with. It is not disrespectful, in fact it is a demonstration of a basic right people have fought and died to protect.

How many Black NFL owners voted in support of this?
Yes I know… there isn’t any.

Lena May 23, 2018 at 9:10 PM

Rather than do away with the National Anthem at sports events, why don’t we just do away with football. Certainly, some of the most egotistical players anywhere, anytime, and some of the worst behaved without question. Who need them, really? Personally, I never liked football, too violent for me, but I totally checked out on football when the players started beating up people off the field.

AlwaysBePositive May 24, 2018 at 8:24 AM

Baseball ends in October, and basketball starts then so as much as I’ve been a niners fan in the past…I’m done with the NFL. In addition to the plantation mentality shown by owners in this issue, the brain damage issue is huge. I would guess that within the next five years we will see the elimination of minors playing hard-contact football. The liability issues will be too expensive for under-funded school districts. It wouldn’t surprise me to see the boxing model come into play for the NFL. Use them (the players) up and then spit them out. Come to think of it…that’s how they work now.

Go Warriors!

Rollo Tomasi May 24, 2018 at 5:43 PM

@ Susan I:

Question: Why should I allow you, or NFL players, or veterans or anybody else decide for me what is disrespectful? It reminds me of the situation where someone says “No offense, but” or “No disrespect intended, but” and sure enough, something disrespectful or offensive comes out of that individual’s pie hole.
Now, unlike the majority of liberals, I understand that I have no right to try and stop that individual from saying or doing whatever I find offensive. Indeed, I do what is in my power to do, which is express my opinion and move on. In the case of the NFL players, I stop consuming the product from which their riches and fame are drawn.

Randy May 23, 2018 at 11:47 AM

Paul Ryan fought hard to raise the retirement age to 70. He will retire at 48 will full pension and full health care for life.

Original G May 23, 2018 at 12:38 PM

Bigger than Watergate ! ! ! ! !

“Many agents in the FBI want Congress to subpoena them so they can reveal problems caused by former FBI Director James Comey and former Deputy FBI Director Andrew McCabe, three people in direct contact with active field agents tell TheDC.

“There are agents all over this country who love the bureau and are sickened by [James] Comey’s behavior and [Andrew] McCabe and [Eric] Holder and [Loretta] Lynch and the thugs like [John] Brennan–who despise the fact that the bureau was used as a tool of political intelligence by the Obama administration thugs,” former federal prosecutor Joe DiGenova told The Daily Caller Tuesday. “They are just waiting for a chance to come forward and testify.”

Ahead of the release of the Department of Justice (DOJ) inspector general report on how the FBI handled the Clinton email investigation …”

How many Obama administration officials will end up with lengthy prison sentences ?
An how many might be found at dawn in a park to keep them quiet ? ? ?

Forsythe May 23, 2018 at 5:18 PM


The NFL is a business venture. Not a political platform.

Google “Kaepernick.” No job, no salary.

Why would any NFL team want the hassle?

Randy May 24, 2018 at 10:33 AM

You are right it’s business. But you’re ok with Ray Lewis playing after Lewis pleaded guilty to obstruction of justice in connection with the stabbing deaths of two men in 2000. The following season, he won the NFL Defensive Player of the Year and led the Ravens’ record-setting defense to victory in Super Bowl XXXV.

Where are your values? Where was the outrage then. The flag thing is a manipulation of the low IQ voters.

Rollo Tomasi May 24, 2018 at 5:49 PM

Randy, you misunderstand the risk/reward concept. Ray Lewis is a scumbag, but his skills on the field outweighed the negatives of keeping him on the roster. Not so with Kaepernick. If you believe his skills outweigh his baggage, you know nothing about football. And the owners who supposedly claimed recently that Kaepernick has starting QB skills? Nothing but virtue signalling. If his skills were good enough, he’d have a job for exactly the same reasons Ray Lewis continued to play.

Randy May 24, 2018 at 7:43 PM

Rollo. And that’s the logic the NFL owners are taking with the national anthem. If Tom Brady takes a knee the owner will pay the fine and Brady will play. Can’t risk that win.

Rollo Tomasi May 25, 2018 at 7:50 AM

Randy, you’re finally catching on. The same would be true for Cam Newton and Ezekiel Elliot.

Original G May 23, 2018 at 5:26 PM

This is how desperate Democrats are for votes,

“Gov. Andrew Cuomo has issued conditional pardons restoring voting rights to more than 24,000 parolees — including cop killer Herman Bell, who was released from prison last month.

The pardons cover 24,086 ex-cons who are currently under parole supervision, the governor’s office said Tuesday.

Cuomo issued an executive order last month which gave him the authority to issue pardons so ex-cons could vote while on parole.”

Would not be surprised if Parole Officers are ordered to help Parolees (Convicted Felons) fill out their voter registration forms.

Bill Pickle May 23, 2018 at 6:10 PM

Why are so many “Republicans” suddenly ok with Russia? Seriously? During my entire growing up years we had the threat of Russian Nuclear Annihilation, especially being so close to what used to be the Naval Weapons station. I no longer associate with any political party after initially registering as a Republican when I started voting. I switched to non-partison during Bush I and now he seems quite reasonable compared to the morons running the GOP now, and those that blindly follow because of what they see on Fox News (the real fake news). Trump is not your friend. He cannot and will not read his briefings unless they mention him purposefully to keep his attention. How about people think for themselves and stop thoughtlessly following a party line that is against their own interests? Liberal this and Leftist that. There is no such thing in our current government. We have middle of the road to right leaning everything. There are no liberals anymore, just those that are referred to as such because being different became a crime sometime in the 90’s. If you automatically vote for candidates and measures with an R next to them then you are absent from the process. Think for yourself and not what a party tells you to.

Dr Jellyfinger May 23, 2018 at 9:44 PM

Bill says “Think for Yourself” and then tells you how to think.
What Bill really means is “Think like Bill”.

Dr Jellyfinger May 25, 2018 at 8:31 AM

“There are no liberals anymore, just those that are referred to as such because being different became a crime sometime in the 90’s”

I’m hearing this same (or very similar) line being repeated by multiple Democrats… The new identity! Pass the word.

HappyPappy May 25, 2018 at 10:59 AM

I am thinking, Bill, and this former life-long democrat will NEVER vote for that party of lunatics again. Clinton, Waters, Reid, Pelosi, etc, etc, etc. Liars, thieves, racists, crazies. And now this Newsome idiot thinks he knows how to run California. UHG!

Original G May 23, 2018 at 6:31 PM

Who from Obama administration will be the first sentenced to Federal Prison for SPY Gate ?

“A Democratic Watergate is unfolding before our eyes.

It’s no wonder Obama’s former CIA chief John Brennan is tweeting like a madman, attacking President Trump, House Speaker Paul Ryan and Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell.

Brennan’s running scared because it’s starting to look like he may have been a co-conspirator in the biggest political scandal since, well, Watergate.

Yesterday, Trump met with FBI Director Christopher Wray, Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein and Director of National Intelligence Dan Coats to inquire if Brennan’s CIA and the FBI spied on his 2016 presidential campaign, as reported by The New York Times and other media last week.

If it’s confirmed that the Obama administration used U.S. intelligence agencies and the Justice Department to go after political opponents — to keep Democrats in power through a presidential election cycle — Attorney General Jeff Sessions should immediately un-recuse himself from the Russia “collusion” witch hunt, shut it down and open a criminal investigation into all parties involved.

And to think that Democrats and their puppets in media have been calling Trump the greatest threat to democracy all this time when their party may have been using authoritarian tactics against the leader of the opposition party and his associates.”

AlwaysBePositive May 24, 2018 at 7:42 AM

og…Where do you put the 5 guilty please and 19 federal indictments in your definition of witch hunt? If you can’t figure that one out, here is a pretty simple math equation. The number of guilty pleas in this investigation minus the number of guilty pleas from the Benghazi investigation equals ?.

I’ll take your answer off the blog…

Elwood May 24, 2018 at 12:50 PM


Original G May 24, 2018 at 5:57 PM

Aww how sad for Pelosi after she mocked President Trump and cackled about North Korea talks not happening.

Then this afternoon this,
“North Korea is willing to talk with the United States anytime, a senior North Korean diplomat said Friday, in response to Washington’s abrupt decision to pull out of a planned summit between the two countries.

North Korean Vice Foreign Minister Kim Kye-gwan issued a statement carried by the North’s state-run Korean Central News Agency (KCNA). It came hours after U.S. President Donald Trump announced a surprise decision to withdraw from his summit with North Korean leader Kim Jong-un set for June 12. ”

Wonder if North Korean vice minister of foreign affairs who came unglued and trashed Pence will end up having an accident with an anti aircraft gun ???

An anti aircraft gun is a little more dramatic then being found dead at dawn in Fort Marcy Park, Virginia.

Original G May 24, 2018 at 8:14 PM

How often do politicians and unelected bureaucrats in CA consider long term effects of their spur of the moment knee jerk decisions ? ? ?

Hepatitis outbreak in San Diego began November 2016.
An what transpired in months previous ? ? ?

“In late April, homeless advocates discovered the city was installing jagged rocks under Interstate 5 at Imperial Avenue to discourage camping. The motivation seemed clear: Imperial leads straight to Petco Park, home of this year’s All-Star Game. The rocks, advocates argued, were part of a larger effort—similar to one in San Francisco before this year’s Super Bowl—to get homeless people out of the area.” …

“But a city spokesman told a different story. He said it was at the request of residents of Sherman Heights, a working-class neighborhood several blocks east of Petco Park.” …

“In fact, Sherman Heights is never mentioned in dozens of emails exchanged between city staffers discussing the rock installation. Rather, the rocks were part of a larger effort to clean up the area prior to the July 12 All-Star Game and improve the flow of traffic to and from Petco Park. Early plans, emails show, called for rocks not only along Imperial Avenue, but also along two blocks of a wall lining Petco Park’s Tailgate Park as well as outside the New Central Library, all in an effort to deter camping and loitering near the ballpark during All-Star Game festivities.”

For much more

Grand Jury report, bottom of page 7 into page 8, interesting reading.

Elwood May 24, 2018 at 10:48 PM

Source? Or should we just take your word for it?

After all you are the world’s foremost authority on so many topics.

Lena May 24, 2018 at 11:25 PM

So? Is Trump not allowed to have friends?

Elwood May 25, 2018 at 4:57 PM

And thank YOU, Ms. Credibility!

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