Claycord – Talk About Politics

February 16, 2018 19:10 pm · 288 comments


This post is “Talk About Politics”.

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LocaI February 16, 2018 at 7:11 PM

13 Russian nationals indicted on charges related to meddling in US elections

The 37-page indictment, signed by special counsel Robert Mueller, depicts an elaborate scheme in which some of the Russians accused allegedly came to the U.S. with the deliberate intention of undermining the American political and electoral process, including the 2016 presidential election The new indictment comes amid a wide-ranging probe by the special counsel into Russian meddling in the U.S. election and is also the first set of charges by Mueller for 2016 presidential election interference.

Venice February 16, 2018 at 7:20 PM

So now do you feel like a fool? You sure look like one.

Greg94528 February 16, 2018 at 7:26 PM

Sorry, Local, but here is no evidence of Trump collusion with the Russians., even after a year of investigation. But fasten your seatbelts everyone, for the real collusion of Hillary and the Democrats will be doming to light soon!

LocaI February 16, 2018 at 7:42 PM

I don’t, Venice, but people who believed this stuff sure do:

Mueller’s Charges Against Russians Highlight Florida Trump Rallies

Clinton in prison garb devised by Russians to stir electorate

Mueller says the group sowed more discord after the election

Members of the Trump campaign unwittingly aided the Russians for some of their pre-election events

The Russians allegedly communicated with a Texas-based grassroots organization that advised them to focus their efforts on “purple states” such as Colorado, Florida and Virginia that could be swayed to vote for Trump.

LocaI February 16, 2018 at 9:57 PM

Stephen Bannon has reportedly spent 20 hours being interviewed by Robert Mueller

Former White House chief strategist Stephen Bannon has reportedly been interviewed several times in the last week by Special Counsel Robert Mueller. Bannon spent “some 20 hours” with Mueller’s team, NBC News reports, as part of Mueller’s investigation into Russian meddling in the 2016 election and possible collusion by President Trump’s campaign with Russia.

SF oh February 17, 2018 at 8:42 AM

So proud that the FBI has spent over a year investigating this nonsense. Definitely a better use of their time than following up on specific, detailed warnings of an impending school shooting. Seventeen innocent people are dead after citizens followed the “see something, say something” advice and notified authorities of an impending massacre ….. but NOTHING was done. FBI was too consumed with following Russians on laptops and coming up with nothing. But, I’m sure, the FBI will offer thoughts and prayers to the victim’s families.

LocaI February 17, 2018 at 1:17 PM

Well that’s obvious that SFoh dislikes law enforcement and defends Russia. Here’s the question you should be asking:

Is Donald Trump a Traitor?

Yogurt February 17, 2018 at 1:57 PM

It amazes me how little people actually understand about the Russia investigation.

It’s not out to prove collusion. Anyone who has actually read about understands that there is a possibility that collusion never happened.

The investigation is into the criminal charges that are associated with the Russia interference.

What trump voters should be worried about isn’t collusion, it’s the obstruction of justice charges that will be coming for Trump.

However, when the republicans control the house and senate, those charges won’t mean anything because they won’t impeach him. Much like why Bill didn’t get impeached for lying under oath.

This is why the midterm elections are important for the democrats. If they take the house and senate back, a number of bills won’t get passed and if trump is charged with obstruction of justice, he will get impeached.

Collusion is a false narrative that the right winged media is pushing.

SF oh February 17, 2018 at 5:04 PM

I do not dislike law enforcement – actually, I have friends and family who are in law enforcement. But when law enforcement was warned several times about the Florida shooter, they were wrong to ignore those warnings. By visiting the guy’s house and talking to him or, at least, notifying the school so it could take precautions – they might have prevented this.. Teenagers lives could have been saved. This stupid Trump thing isn’t life or death. Death is death – and it’s final! Those poor kids lives were taken away. Their families will never recover. And you think a Trump-Russia investigation is more important? It’s ok that the FBI and CPS ignored warnings? Sorry pal, I don’t. I support law enforcement and I also support kids being safe in their schools – whatever it takes. It’s as simple as that.

LocaI February 18, 2018 at 12:29 PM

Scarborough: Trump in ‘meltdown mode’ over indictments

“Someone, anyone close to the president needs to take his phone away this morning. He is in meltdown mode over the Russian indictments,”

LocaI February 16, 2018 at 7:14 PM

Trump used secret hotel meet-ups and payoffs to keep an affair with a Playmate quiet while his son was a few months old

A New Yorker report details a former Playboy Playmate’s account of an affair with President Donald Trump in 2006, shortly after his youngest son was born.

The Playmate, Karen McDougal, was reportedly paid $150,000 for the exclusive rights to her story by a tabloid with ties to Trump.

Venice February 16, 2018 at 7:20 PM

It must really bother you that no laws were broken, huh.

Wave February 16, 2018 at 7:28 PM

So what else is new about Trump. He’s been denying all these affairs, but I bet his wife Melania knows better.

Looks like money will buy anything…

Greg94528 February 16, 2018 at 7:30 PM

Yeah, and on my smart phone, a news break flash came on saying that Trump hires strippers to come to the White House every time Melania is out of town. Just more fake news to discredit the President by the Looney left! And the American public is being to see through it all ! Trump will go down in history as one of the greatest Presidents ever!

LocaI February 16, 2018 at 7:37 PM

No laws were broken, Venice, but a marriage might’ve been:

Melania Trump arrives solo to air base amid second affair scandal as first couple heads to Florida

First lady Melania Trump eschewed the traditional South Lawn couple’s walk to Marine One on Friday amid another adultery allegation scandal, opting instead to drive separately ahead of President Donald Trump.

SF oh February 17, 2018 at 8:10 AM

OMG, Local, you’re right! The American people should’ve elected Hillary. An extra-marital affair would NEVER happen in a Clinton administration. Good heavens, these allegations (please note key word: allegations). of a candidate/President engaging in an affair with another woman are shocking …….shocking, I say! I’ve never heard of anything so scandalous….. except for what we’ve heard over and over again about Hillary’s hubby for the past 30 years.

Chicken Little February 17, 2018 at 6:06 PM

I assume you’re going to vote against Gavin Newsom for Governor if you think an extramarital affair disqualifies one from holding public office, right?

Silva February 17, 2018 at 9:51 PM

SF oh, that is a good one! You have been hearing about Hillary’s hubby s indescressions over and over and over again ad infinitem for the past 30 years because your side cannot stop your bellyaching about it. Enjoy all the ensuing stories about this disgusting sleazeball. There are going to be some real gaggers.

SF oh February 18, 2018 at 8:28 AM

Sorry Silva, I don’t belong to either “side”, because I am able to think for myself. There is a lot of gray area out there, but very little gray matter looking at it objectively. There are many topics where both “sides” could agree and come together but those who choose to be on a “side” refuse to do so and the country is left with nothing being done. . So go ahead and keep clutching your pearls and gasping in horror at the thought of marital infidelities by a politician – as your side has instructed its followers to do. It’s a nice distraction from actual problems that our politicians should be addressing. But keep in mind that old “people in glass houses …..” thing.

Silva February 18, 2018 at 10:26 AM

Oh, okay then SF oh, my mistake. I also am not on the side you pegged me for either, so we are even. Sadly I only mostly get to vote for whoever would not be the worst possible candidate for the job. I do not care about anyone else s marital issues, While it may add to the total picture of someone s character, it really is not something I worry about, yet the astoundingly overwhelming hypocrisy of those shrieking about Clinton s husband s indescretions for the past 30 years does look pretty ridiculous right now if you think about it, if you do, as you profess to, have functioning grey matter.

Dr Jellyfinger February 18, 2018 at 11:08 AM

Whether character is a factor or not is relevant only as it relates to what the people want in terms of a President.
They’re looking for someone with the character to get the economy back on track and answer the more serious questions facing this country.

LocaI February 18, 2018 at 12:37 PM

Yes, Silva, “picture of someone’s character”, or lack thereof:

Trump’s alleged affair with Playboy model reveals ‘systemic’ pattern of concealing stories, says Ronan Farrow

McDougal’s firsthand account of her alleged affair with Trump, beginning in June 2006, reveals a “systemic” pattern of “catch and kill,” or purchasing a story in order to sweep it under the rug.

Greg94528 February 16, 2018 at 7:34 PM

Yeah, and on my smart phone, a news break flash came on saying that Trump hire strippers to come to the White House every time Melania is out of town. Just more fake news to discredit the President by the Looney left!

LocaI February 16, 2018 at 8:34 PM

Would you stay after adultery, greg?

Will Melania Leave Donald Trump? After Stormy Daniels, A Third Of Americans Think First Lady Should End Marriage

Daniels met Trump at a celebrity golfing tournament near Lake Tahoe in Nevada, in July 2006. There, it’s claimed, they had sex at a hotel and began an affair.

Trump was married to Slovenian-born Melania Trump—née Knauss—for just over a year at this point. The couple had welcomed their son Barron in March 2006, just four months before Trump allegedly slept with Daniels.

Silva February 16, 2018 at 10:18 PM

Melania has her “chain-migrated” family to consider. They have no education or skills, and they aren’t self supporting.

LocaI February 16, 2018 at 7:34 PM

FCC Chairman Ajit Pai is under investigation for possible collusion with Sinclair Broadcasting

Pai had met with Sinclair executives right before President Trump elevated him to chairman and corresponded with Sinclair officials several times afterward, and Pai has refused requests from Democratic lawmakers to hand over his communications with Sinclair and the White House.

Badge1104 February 16, 2018 at 7:43 PM

RdI’m still loving my Trump tax break! This week I gave an extra hundred dollars to a charity that helps poor Mexican families. I guess those crumbs really do trickle down and help people, don’t they Nancy Pelosi. And you’re one to talk, your Mansion costs over $100,000 a year in property taxes alone.. I guess maybe the rest of us are crumbs to you to spite your rhetoric.

LocaI February 16, 2018 at 8:17 PM

You might not want to get too hopeful, badge:

Trump’s gas tax would wipe out 60% of tax cut benefit for individuals, analyst estimates

President Trump reportedly endorses the idea of a 25-cent per-gallon gasoline tax

Strate gas Research points out that the higher tax, along with expected increases in fuel costs, would take away about $71 billion from consumers, or 60 percent of the expected $120 billion gain from tax cuts.

The increased cost of gas at the pump would also be nine times larger than the estimated $4 billion companies are handing to workers in the form of bonuses, due to corporate tax cuts.

Chicken Little February 17, 2018 at 6:01 PM

I don’t remember you complaining about the Democrat-imposed gas tax in California. Why is that?

LocaI February 18, 2018 at 12:41 PM

Because I’m not a complainer like you, chicken little. I’m simply enlightening badge to some facts. Here’s more info for you:

Trump endorses 25-cent gas tax hike

Badge1104 February 16, 2018 at 7:51 PM

I’m still loving my Trump tax break! This week I gave an extra hundred dollars to a charity that helps poor Mexican families. I guess those crumbs really do trickle down and help people don’t they Nancy Pelosi. And you’re one to talk, your Mansion costs over $100,000 a year in property taxes alone.. I guess maybe the rest of us are crumbs to you to spite your rhetoric.

Donald February 16, 2018 at 9:17 PM

Someone who can’t donate $100 without Trump’s tax plan counts as as trickle-down economics. Got it.

I’ll triple your donation if you can prove that you actually donated.

Justifiable Languor February 17, 2018 at 10:35 AM

That must have been one tasty burrito. 😉

LocaI February 16, 2018 at 8:22 PM

Mueller levels new claim of bank fraud against Manafort

Special counsel Robert Mueller’s office has told a federal judge it has found evidence that Paul Manafort, the former Trump campaign chairman, committed bank fraud not addressed by the indictment last October in which he was charged with money laundering and failure to register as a foreign agent.

Manafort has been under house arrest at his condominium in Alexandria, Virginia, since he was indicted in October along with Rick Gates, a business partner and Trump campaign deputy.

Mariner February 16, 2018 at 8:48 PM

I just went over all the indictments, the wording, the do called collusion and so on.
So we have fake accounts, fake ads, misleading propaganda and so on.
So far what exactly is against the law?

Snowden whistleblew on the CIA doing the exact same things the USA was and still is doing to other countries.

All this just because Hillary had a meltdown and all the polls were wrong. Well they gotta blame someone other than themselves for their lost election.

Sorry Hillary it wasn’t the Russians it was just you…and only you that lost your own election.

Original G February 17, 2018 at 1:35 PM

WOW, them Russians must really be somethin’ …
only took 13 of ’em to defeat Hillary.

Fred P. February 16, 2018 at 9:17 PM

Local is just another DNC parrot.

No independent critical thinking skills demonstrated.

LocaI February 16, 2018 at 9:30 PM

The NRA Should Disclose Any Russian Ties

The Federal Bureau of Investigation is reportedly investigating whether the NRA helped funnel money from Russians into the election, which would violate U.S. election law prohibiting the use of foreign money. In recent years the NRA has developed relationships with several well-connected Russians, including Alexander Torshin, an ally of President Vladimir Putin who is deputy governor of the Russian central bank.

Torshin, who has been implicated in money laundering by Spanish authorities, is also an NRA member. In 2016 he is reported to have met with Donald Trump Jr. at the NRA’s annual meeting in Kentucky, and in 2015 NRA leaders met with Torshin in Moscow.

Elwood February 16, 2018 at 9:35 PM

Local do you feel a lot better after venting all this nonsense?

LocaI February 17, 2018 at 1:46 PM

It’s not nonsense that trump is scared, Elwood, look:

It’s been a full year since Donald Trump last held a news conference

If you can’t take the heat, get out of the kitchen.

Elwood February 16, 2018 at 10:42 PM

the Russian meddling was never Pro Trump.
It was always anti-hillary
When Trump became her opponent
it became Pro Trump as well as anti Hillary
if her opponent had been Rubio it would be Pro Rubio

Roz February 17, 2018 at 7:28 AM

Think You hit the nail on the head with this post.

Original G February 16, 2018 at 11:19 PM

“US Immigration and Customs Enforcement officers have rounded up more than 200 people for violating immigration laws during a five-day sweep in the Los Angeles area, which sparked a protest on Thursday.

In addition to arresting 212 undocumented immigrants, federal agents also served more than 100 notices to local businesses that they will be audited to determine whether they are employing people who are in the country illegally.”

‘ CRAZED California AG Threatens CHARGES Against Employers Aiding ICE Raids On Illegal Aliens (VIDEO)’

Aspirin February 17, 2018 at 10:43 AM

And yet, US citizens are committing all of the gun violence and mass killing.

Perhaps we should clean up our own mess before worrying about 212 undocumented immigrants.

Chicken Little February 17, 2018 at 5:56 PM

Sure, Aspirin, let’s ignore all other crimes until we’ve eliminated the problem of mass shootings. Makes perfect sense in your reality, I’m sure.

Original G February 16, 2018 at 11:44 PM

Perhaps Democrat politicians should concentrate their efforts, on ensuring law enforcement takes appropriate investigative action and making sure persons who should be added to Federal firearm background system are added. Seventeen children might still be alive today.

“A sheriff said Friday that his office received around 20 calls about Nikolas Cruz, the 19-year-old suspect in this week’s shooting at a Florida high school that left 17 people dead and wounded more than a dozen others.

Broward County Sheriff Scott Israel told reporters that his office had uncovered “approximately 20″ 911 calls relating to Cruz over the last few years, and that his office would investigate how those calls were handled.”

” The FBI’s statement is below:
On January 5, 2018, a person close to Nikolas Cruz contacted the FBI’s Public Access Line (PAL) tipline to report concerns about him. The caller provided information about Cruz’s gun ownership, desire to kill people, erratic behavior, and disturbing social media posts, as well as the potential of him conducting a school shooting.

Under established protocols, the information provided by the caller should have been assessed as a potential threat to life. The information then should have been forwarded to the FBI Miami Field Office, where appropriate investigative steps would have been taken.

We have determined that these protocols were not followed for the information received by the PAL on January 5. The information was not provided to the Miami Field Office, and no further investigation was conducted at that time.”

Aspirin February 17, 2018 at 10:40 AM

No effective gun control is possible with a GOP majority in Congress.

The NRA practically owns the Republican Party.

Dr Jellyfinger February 17, 2018 at 10:49 AM

“If you SEE something, SAY something”
And nobody does ANYTHING?
Geez! If I was the agent that ignored that info I think I’d kill myself.

Fred P. February 17, 2018 at 5:55 PM

And why did the democrats do nothing about gun control while they held the majority in Congress when obama was president?

Aspirin keeps forgetting those pesky little facts.

Randy February 17, 2018 at 8:06 PM

Yo fred you must have forgotten what a filibuster was, or a super-majority

Fred P. February 20, 2018 at 7:09 AM

“yo randy”…

No I hadn’t – but the democrats did NOTHING to address the problem when they had a majority… remember cramming obamacare down our throats?

Think about it. Make excuses all you want… but they did NOTHING.

I do have to say – you’re very good at blaming others and never taking responsibility. I’m sure your probation officer is happy with you.

NunYa February 17, 2018 at 7:38 AM

Hillary for Prison 2018

LocaI February 17, 2018 at 2:12 PM

Russians: “Hillary for Prison 2018”

Yogurt February 17, 2018 at 3:29 PM

Dude she lost, move on and worry about how corrupt the current administration is

NunYa February 19, 2018 at 9:38 PM

Yogurt, Local, which of you is the puppet and who is the master?

Original G February 17, 2018 at 8:44 AM

How about that Mueller gets a Grand Jury to charge 13 Russians for interfering with the 2016 presidential election.

So, now we are supposed to believe that is why Hillary lost? Really ???

Randy February 17, 2018 at 9:33 AM

No we need to know how the trail lead to the Russians.

The starting point will be Trump.

Aspirin February 17, 2018 at 10:38 AM

Hillary won the popular vote by almost 3,000,000 votes.

It is entirely possible that the Russians gave the election to Trump.

Justifiable Languor February 17, 2018 at 11:44 AM

Hilary had a mental breakdown the night of the elections. Before that, she could barely stand without help. She was and is, mentally, physically and spiritually unfit to be POTUS.

Other than that:

There is this.

” …Second, if Mueller’s theory is correct, three things make FusionGPS a criminal co-conspirator: it knew Steele was a foreign citizen; it knew, and paid, Steele to influence an election; and it knew, and facilitated, Steele neither registering as a foreign agent nor reporting his funding from the Democratic National Committee and the Clinton campaign to the Federal Election Commission… “

Original G February 17, 2018 at 11:48 AM

Wonder if Mueller will finally find out what then President Obama actually meant.

Venice February 17, 2018 at 11:49 AM

Aspirin –
Hilary didn’t WIN anything! She LOST the election. An emotionally sound person understands that simple fact.
It’s entirely likely that you’re deluded, and I do enjoy seeing you embarrassing yourself.

Elwood February 17, 2018 at 12:44 PM

There is no claim of collusion or effect on the election in the indictments according to Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein.

But that doesn’t faze our separate reality posters.

See Randy, Local, Aspirin etc.

Silva February 17, 2018 at 1:36 PM

Rosenstein; “There are no allegations in the indictment of any effect on the outcome of the election.”.

“ the indictment..” As in; “.. in THIS PARTICULAR indictment…”. I don’t think the investigations are wrapped up yet. More to come!

NunYa February 19, 2018 at 9:41 PM

It is hilarious when liberals like Aspirin try to make their case. Hillary lost because we have the electoral college. Maybe you just don’t know how our electoral process works.

Fred P. February 20, 2018 at 7:12 AM

And I’ll bet that those 3,000,000 votes that aspirin claims were from illegal immigrants.

She can’t prove otherwise.

And that’s why we have the electoral college….so California, New York and 1-2 other populous (and liberal) states don’t end up overriding the other 46-47 states. And that’s why we have the Senate and House.

Think about it.

Original G February 17, 2018 at 9:40 AM

“5 Terrible Things the Media Communicates to Every Potential School Shooter
1. You will be famous
2. The world will come to a stop for you and talk about nothing else for days

5. No one will shoot back at you at a school—and we’ll make damned sure it stays that way!

Pssssst. Hey, buddy, did you know schools are Gun Free Zones?”

For the others,

Agree or disagree ? ? ?

LocaI February 17, 2018 at 1:55 PM

False. There were two armed officers on campus at the time of the shooting. 17 still dead.

Stop watching fox “news” and pj “pajama” media.

BTW, Remington filed for bankruptcy and the foreign funded NRA trained the shooter:

The NRA Spent $10,000 to Train Nikolas Cruz in 2016

Anon February 17, 2018 at 7:48 PM

I agree and the FBI was so busy trying to find “Russian collusion” that it failed to lock up Nikolas Cruz when it should have.

Original G February 17, 2018 at 8:22 PM

Did you both to do ANY research on the school ?
Three story buildings and over three thousand students on campus.
How could just two people provide adequate security for a campus that big?

Fred P. February 18, 2018 at 7:58 AM

And now local claims the nra is “foreign funded.”

Got proof of that, sonny?

You take others to task for quoting media that does not agree with you, yet you do the same.

Liberals are always trying to stifle free speech when they don’t agree with it.

elviss February 19, 2018 at 8:07 PM

I agree and the FBI was so busy spying on private citizens per Obama’s directives, and for their own personal enjoyment in other cases, that it failed to take serious note of anything Nikolas Cruz was planning.

NunYa February 19, 2018 at 9:45 PM

Free speech hurts liberal hearts everywhere. It doesn’t fit their narrative.


Dr Jellyfinger February 17, 2018 at 10:12 AM

These so called “trolls” who are interfering with our elections and trying to cause confusion & distrust of our government and all the friggin hackers and scumbags who launch viruses to screw up our computers and steal from us…Why dosen’t our CIA handle these guys? I mean, if the FBI can figure out who they are I’m sure the CIA can too. Instead of indictments for people we can’t extradite, why don’t we have some black ops guys find them & see that these creeps wake up dead? Word will get around… maybe the trolls and hackers will get the message if they start mysteriously disappearing without a trace. Where the hell are our tax dollars going anyway?

Yogurt February 17, 2018 at 3:46 PM

They are agents of the Russian government

elviss February 19, 2018 at 8:09 PM

Some are actually software developers testing their product. Others get paid handsomely to hack your stuff and find bugs.

Aspirin February 17, 2018 at 10:36 AM

Further investigation will reveal that Russian interference did, indeed, influence the election in Trump’s favor.

Key swing states were obviously targeted.

More information will be forthcoming.

Noj February 17, 2018 at 11:50 AM


You didn’t read the indictment.

No Hillary didn’t win the popular vote.

Re-read Rosenstein’s comments in his indictment:

“In interfering w/ the presidential election of 2016, senate elections of [x, y, z], [x] elections, whereby several million of illegal, non-resident ballots (the “irregularities”) were counted, while legal ballots were improperly tabulated and/or intentionally mishandled. We believe these actions were a coordinated attack against the democracy of our country.”



Guess what that means.

Trump won BOTH the popular AND electoral college vote.

Catch up will you?

By the way, SFGate has NO article on it’s home page..

Doesn’t fit the narrative.

Elwood February 17, 2018 at 12:46 PM

Aspirin explains it all to you!


LocaI February 17, 2018 at 1:50 PM

Noj decides to ignore these things called facts.

It seems like Republicans used to be able to mount an argument with facts but that time has passed:

The Tea Party is dead — it’s the Covfefe Party now

mtzman February 17, 2018 at 1:50 PM

noj, you’re the one that needs to catch up. There is no such report, not to mention your assumption that all those votes would have gone to Clinton is ridiculous in light of the actual facts that we have.

Silva February 17, 2018 at 2:40 PM

Noj, would you mind very much posting the source of your quote?

Dr Jellyfinger February 17, 2018 at 3:50 PM

Aspirin… what bathroom wall do you read for all this news?

Fred P. February 17, 2018 at 5:53 PM

Now aspirin pretends she’s an expert in all things law enforcement-related.

Aspirin, you’re completely off your meds.

Got a suggestion for you. Call 911 and tell the nice dispatcher that you’d like to be 5150’d. Again…

Noj February 17, 2018 at 11:36 AM

You think these snowflakes are squirming now…just wait until Hillary, Obama, Bill and Chelsea and the rest of Obama’s crimewave family are hauled before the courts for treason.

OMG I can’t wait to see the little snowflakes holler then.

And you know they always holler the loudest..


Silva February 17, 2018 at 12:10 PM

There does seem to be a lot of hollering going on.

LocaI February 17, 2018 at 1:51 PM

Just not by trump, shhhhhh:

President Trump’s New Record: The Longest Time Without a Formal Press Conference in Half a Century

Yogurt February 17, 2018 at 3:31 PM

I don’t think you understand what treason means.

Aspirin February 17, 2018 at 11:43 AM

Why would the Russians spend millions to influence the election in favor of Trump?

Perhaps to create political and racial divisions in the USA? This is happening.

Perhaps to weaken our influence with our allies? This is happening as only two nations have a favorable impression of Trump.

Perhaps to feed Americans anger toward each other? Increased gun violence may be one of the results.

Perhaps to make Americans suspicious of a free press? Trump is doing this continually.

Noj February 17, 2018 at 11:52 AM

They didn’t.

They spent millions on Hillary and Bernie too.

It’s a different news cycle today.

Please stay informed and don’t lie to us.

Dr Jellyfinger February 17, 2018 at 3:56 PM

Well…. except for messing with their adoring partisan press, the Democrats have achieved all those things.

TIFOKCIS February 17, 2018 at 11:44 AM

GunBoy is a Antifa pusher.

How about banning Liberals!

Once again: count the 24/7 murders in all the major cities. Chaos and murder in Liberal Utopias is just business as usual.

Where is the outrage?

Aspirin February 17, 2018 at 12:58 PM

Talk to the NRA and the gun lobby and the GOP who is afraid to pass any kind of meaningful gun control.

Why is a semi-automatic AR-15 and 30 round ammo clips available over the counter?

Dr Jellyfinger February 17, 2018 at 4:05 PM

Aspirin…. any “magazine” capable of holding more than 10 rounds of ammunition is not legal to purchase or ship into California.

Correcting you isn’t even fun anymore…. it’s just getting tiresome.

Fred P. February 17, 2018 at 5:47 PM

Aspirin, you are NOT qualified to comment on ANYTHING relating to firearms.

1. What is the difference between an AR-15 and and other semiautomatic rifles? Be specific.

2. What is the difference between a magazine and a clip?

If you can’t answer either of these without looking it up, then you have no business commenting on them. That would just indicate you’re spewing the DNC talking points and have no idea what you’re talking about.

With that, go away. You’re a waste of oxygen and taking up valuable bandwidth.

@dr j…..I agree. Trying to educate aspirin is worse than trying to teach a pig to sing opera.

Fred P. February 22, 2018 at 6:45 AM

As[irin – we’re still waiting for you to post your answers to the following two questions without looking up the answers.

1. What is the difference between an AR-15 and and other semiautomatic rifles? Be specific.

2. What is the difference between a magazine and a clip?

Given that you’ve been anable to do that over a week’s time. It’s obvious you’re just a pathetic troll. Don’t bother commenting on anything firearms-related, because you’re just ignorant of those facts.

Silva February 17, 2018 at 11:45 AM

Hold on to your… britches!

TIFOKCIS February 17, 2018 at 1:49 PM

Yeah, you might want to heed your own advice there cupcake.

LocaI February 17, 2018 at 1:53 PM

Or if you’re trump, hold on to your… hair!

Dr Jellyfinger February 17, 2018 at 4:55 PM

Trump can obviously afford hair implants… wonder why he hasn’t done that? I mean, really! He’s got the most complicated comb-over that I’ve ever seen. If I was him I’d shave my head for a fortune in public donations to a charity every year till I termed out. Get all that vanity BS out of the way.

Silva February 17, 2018 at 6:04 PM

Dr Jellyfinger, judging what we all saw the other day, my opinion is that he’s extremely follicularly challenged in the typical donor site in the back of the head. Here’s a couple of other opinions about what could be going on, why he’s been wearing that same ridiculous looking mullet helmet the past 35 years;
Ivana’s divorce deposition was so explicit about how he felt about his foray into cosmetic surgery back then, maybe he just doesn’t want to go down that road ever again. If he would just buzz cut it, he would only look 75% as ridiculous, IMO.

Aspirin February 17, 2018 at 12:56 PM

Trump lied, again.

Turns out it wasn’t a “hoax” after all.

TIFOKCIS February 17, 2018 at 1:45 PM

Don’t you have a relative and fellow enthusiast in FL to comfort?

Fred P. February 18, 2018 at 8:01 AM

Aspirin, prove it or shut your pie hole.

You’re just as annoying and as much value as a mosquito.

NunYa February 19, 2018 at 9:50 PM

What wasn’t a hoax, your meds running out?

Elwood February 17, 2018 at 1:25 PM

Indictments = allegations, innocent until proven guilty, ham sandwich etc.

So far it does appear that allegations of collusion between the Russians and the Trump campaign were and are a hoax.

Yogurt February 17, 2018 at 3:35 PM

It’s a criminal investigation into Russians meddling.

Collusion is only pushed by trump. It’s whatever illegal activities they find.

Maybe collusion or maybe not

Maybe obstruction of justice or money laundering.

Stop focusing on only collusion, it’s whatever illegal activity they find that is related to the Russian meddling

Elwood February 17, 2018 at 3:44 PM

Maybe also felonious mopery and spitting on the sidewalk.

Go Mueller!

Dr Jellyfinger February 17, 2018 at 4:56 PM

Bad news for the Clintons…

Randy February 17, 2018 at 1:45 PM

Twenty-two years ago, just weeks after the deadliest and last fatal mass shooting in Australia’s history, the country’s then-Prime Minister John Howard made it clear: Australia will not be like the United States.

The country made sweeping gun control measures after a man killed 35 people with a semi-automatic weapon in a popular tourist area of Port Arthur, in Tasmania. Weeks after the April 1996 tragedy, the country and its states began banning rapid-fire guns to tamp down on mass shootings and then offered to buy the prohibited firearms.

Research suggests it’s worked.

The University of Sydney, in a 2016 study published in the Journal of the American Medical Association, found Australia hadn’t experienced a fatal mass shooting — one in which five or more people are killed — since the 1996 shooting. In the 18 years prior, 1979-1996, there were 13 fatal mass shootin

Original G February 17, 2018 at 3:07 PM

Mentally ill will use next best method to commit a mass casualty event.

Cherry picking numbers, what liberals are so good at.

“Research suggests it’s worked.”
Murder Suicide 28 June 1997 Five dead.
Wright St Bikie Murders 8 October 1999 three dead, two injured.
Childers Palace Backpackers Hostel fire 23 June 2000 Fifteen dead.
Monash University shooting 21 October 2002 two dead, five injured.
Churchill Fire 7 February 2009 Ten dead
Lin family murders 18 July 2009 Five dead
Hectorville siege 29 April 2011 Three dead, three injured.
Quakers Hill nursing home fire 18 November 2011 Eleven dead.
Rozelle fire murders 4 September 2014 three dead, two injured.
Hunt family murders 9 September 2014 five dead by firearm.
Sydney Siege 15 – 16 December 2014 three dead, four injured by firearm.
Cairns child killings 19 December 2014 eight dead.
January 2017 Melbourne car attack 20 January 2017 six dead, thirty injured.

Playing with numbers . . . almost as impressive as all them jobs Obama created or supposedly SAVED.

Fred P. February 17, 2018 at 5:49 PM

Original g…. trying to educate a liberal is a waste of time. They’re not interested in the facts.

Gee, xyz country did this….why can’twe do this?

Randy, then I suggest you move to country xyz.

TIFOKCIS February 17, 2018 at 1:47 PM

That is a gas. 13 Russians created the Electoral College and propelled Trump to victory.


Original G February 17, 2018 at 2:50 PM

Wonder where Russians got the idea of trying to steal an election?

‘ KING: Hillary Clinton camp now paying online trolls to attack anyone who disparages her online ‘

(Hillary Clinton)
“According to two popular online measuring tools, no more than 44 per cent of her Twitter fan base consists of real people who are active in using the social media platform.

And at least 15 per cent – more than 544,000 – are completely fake.”

Silva February 17, 2018 at 3:00 PM

Russian diplomats keep dying unexpectedly;

1) Ambassador to Turkey, Andrei Karlov was assassinated by a police officer at a photo exhibit in Ankara on December 19.

2) On the same day, another diplomat, Peter Polshikov, was shot dead in his Moscow apartment. The gun was found under the bathroom sink but the circumstances of the death were under investigation. Polshikov served as a senior figure in the Latin American department of the Foreign Ministry.

3) Russia’s Ambassador to the United Nations, Vitaly Churkin, died in New York this past week. Churkin was rushed to the hospital from his office at Russia’s UN mission. Initial reports said he suffered a heart attack, and the medical examiner is investigating the death, according to CBS.

4) Russia’s Ambassador to India, Alexander Kadakin, died after a “brief illness” January 27, which The Hindu said he had been suffering from for a few weeks.

5) Russian Consul in Athens, Greece, Andrei Malanin, was found dead in his apartment January 9. A Greek police official said there was “no evidence of a break-in.” But Malanin lived on a heavily guarded street. The cause of death needed further investigation, per an AFP report. Malanin served during a time of easing relations between Greece and Russia when Greece was increasingly critiqued by the EU and NATO.

6) On the morning of U.S. Election Day, Russian diplomat Sergei Krivov was found unconscious at the Russian Consulate in New York and died on the scene. Initial reports said Krivov fell from the roof and had blunt force injuries, but Russian officials said he died from a heart attack. BuzzFeed reports Krivov may have been a Consular Duty Commander, which would have put him in charge of preventing sabotage or espionage.

7) Ex-KGB chief Oleg Erovinkin, who was suspected of helping draft the Trump dossier, was found dead in the back of his car December 26, according to The Telegraph. Erovinkin also was an aide to former deputy prime minister Igor Sechin, who now heads up state-owned Rosneft.

8) A lawyer for a Putin-foe, Nikolai Gorokhov, was reportedly thrown from a window March 21 in Moscow. However, press outlets with ties to Russian security forces reported Gorkohov fell while trying to move a bathtub into his apartment. Gorokhov was set to testify as a U.S. government witness in a money laundering case in New York.

9) A former Russian MP, Denis Voronenkov, was shot dead in Kiev March 23, according to the BBC. Voronenkov was to testify against deposed Ukrainian President Viktor Yanukovych and had ruffled feathers in Russia for calling the Crimean annexation illegal. Kiev police said it was likely a contract killing but the Kremlin rejected the remarks as “absurd.”

10) Russia’s ambassador to Sudan, Mirgayas Shirinsky was found dead at his Khartoum home August 23. Per AFP he was found dead in the residence’s swimming pool, although Sudanese police said he had died of natural causes. Russia’s foreign ministry spokeswoman Maria Zakharova said embassy staff called an ambulance but he “could not be saved.”

Some history: In November 2015, a senior adviser to Putin, Mikhail Lesin, who was also the founder of the media company RT, was found dead in a Washington hotel room according to the NYT. The Russian media said it was a “heart attack,” but the medical examiner said it was “blunt force injuries.”

Just sayin’.

Enquiring Minds February 17, 2018 at 4:03 PM

That’s the Russian version of Arkancide.

Silva February 17, 2018 at 4:40 PM

Enquiring Minds, are there any facts to back up that claim?

Silva February 17, 2018 at 3:13 PM

Inside the Internet Research Agency: How ‘troll factory’ interfered with the US election by posting fake Facebook and Instagram ads and organizing pro-Trump rallies all the way from Russia

Elwood February 17, 2018 at 3:53 PM

This must be the Russian gang that couldn’t shoot straight.

According to Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein, none of their far flung nefarious activities had any effect.

Enquiring Minds February 17, 2018 at 4:04 PM

Why didn’t Obama protect the country from foreign interference?

Silva February 17, 2018 at 4:38 PM

Elwood, we need to wait patiently for the other shoe(s) to drop.

RANDOM TASK February 17, 2018 at 3:49 PM

@local is who a traitor
Hillary broke the law traded gov docume ya knowingly to terroriste
She knowingly shared through a illegal concealed computer in her basement
The fbi gave her a month to destroy hard drives

She was the head partner and got the most money in a scene to give Russia uranium

If Jerry springer had done those things he would be in prison
If a military general / enlisted private did those things they would be in prisOn
If you I or the mayor of claycord did those things we would be in prison

These things are known and all within 6 Months of each other
After a year of witch hunting a biased and placed mueller has nothing absolutely nothing or people would be in prison

Following the dem run media and enforcing dem rhetoric and looking the other way when your party obviously is corrupt does not help at all or help the country


Dr Jellyfinger February 17, 2018 at 5:00 PM

Is it Happy Hour already?

LocaI February 17, 2018 at 6:00 PM

Of Course the President Obstructed Justice

This isn’t new news, not a new revelation. But with more and more voluminous information coming in daily, it is worth revisiting the point. Whether or not the President obstructed justice recently isn’t a factual question. That one is 100% clear. It’s really a legal and constitutional one.

Fred P. February 17, 2018 at 8:12 PM

And of course local quotes another liberal (digital) rag.

No surprise,

Liberals can’t stand dissenting opinions, let alone facts.

It’s just not in their DNA.

Original G February 17, 2018 at 4:18 PM

Russians just five months in, May of 2009, had already sized up Obama and dumped the US Dollar as their Reserve Currency. Did they decide a Hillary Clinton presidency would have been more of a disaster than Obama?

Would not be surprised if Democrats drag this fiasco out into 2018 elections after which as with so much else Democrats touch it’ll implode on them.

Dorothy February 17, 2018 at 4:23 PM

Just a question. Aren’t all political ads suppose to promote confusion and dissent among the people the ads are targeting? And haven’t some of them have been proven to be false as well in order to promote their particular person or point of view? So what else is new?

Silva February 17, 2018 at 7:11 PM

Dorothy, I wrote a longer explanation for you, but it didn’t get through. In a nutshell, this is a much bigger problem because we were and are still being interfered with by a foreign government, and it is disrupting and undermining our Democracy, just as they planned.

Fred P. February 17, 2018 at 5:39 PM

At the end of the latest legislation session Gov. Jerry Brown (D) signed a bill removing mandatory enhanced sentencing for criminals who use guns in the commission of their crimes. He did this at the same time that he signed other legislation making it illegal for teachers to be armed on K-12 campuses for self-defense.

Liberal logic–teachers are not allowed to shoot back if under attack and criminals face no mandatory sentence enhancement for using a gun in carrying out an attack.

Assembly Bill 424 made it illegal for teachers to be armed for self-defense and Senate Bill 620 removed the mandatory enhancement for using a gun for crime. SB 620 removed the mandatory enhancement from the Penal Code and placed it at the discretion of the judge presiding over the case.

The ChicoER observed, “So on one hand Brown and the Legislature make it more difficult for a teacher to protect children against gun-wielding criminals, while on the other they reduce potential penalties for gun-wielding criminals.”

Bills like AB 424 and SB 620 were the result of lawmakers scrambling to find any remaining areas where gun bills could be passed. After all, California Democrats passed so many laws in 2016, via Gunpocalypse, that the bills they passed this year served to either extend extant controls or repeal mandatory gun penalties for criminals, as in the case of sentencing guidelines.

Yet as with older gun controls, these new controls only impact law-abiding citizens. We saw proof of this in “the wave of legal purchases” that preceded the implementation of the laws contained in Gunpocalypse. Law-abiding citizens were getting out and buying everything they could while doing so was still legal.

The ChicoER noted such purchases “tell us that new gun laws have their greatest effect on law-abiding shooters, not those bent on criminal or violent misuse. Gang members and other gun criminals, by their nature, don’t make legal purchases. Rather, they acquire weapons and ammo surreptitiously, in ways that don’t leave paper trails of ownership.”

Once again, democrats illustrate their hypocrisy.

Silva February 17, 2018 at 6:39 PM

I just can’t wait to know about some of the stuff they’ve got on him.

Elwood February 17, 2018 at 8:46 PM

if they can’t get him for felonious mopery,
They’ll get him for spitting on the sidewalk for sure

Silva February 17, 2018 at 9:33 PM

Actually, I meant the kompromat.

Elwood February 17, 2018 at 10:50 PM

Bring a lunch. You’ll have a long wait.

Silva February 18, 2018 at 7:22 AM

Thanks, Elwood. Good advice. Patience really should have been my middle name, though.

Original G February 17, 2018 at 8:25 PM

Bumper sticker

13 Russians defeated Hillary

Aspirin February 18, 2018 at 11:00 AM

Apparently so, according to the evidence.

Elwood February 18, 2018 at 3:03 PM

What color would you like your new bridge painted?

AlwaysBePositive February 18, 2018 at 12:32 AM

You’ll notice that none of the indictments have anything to do with the actual hacking of the DNC servers. Stay tuned, there’s more to come.

TIFOKCIS February 18, 2018 at 9:32 AM

All provided by left leftist FBI?


Justifiable anger February 18, 2018 at 7:41 AM

Chronology of Hilary Clinton cover up.

“The fact that Hillary Clinton and her agents tried to destroy or hide emails shows how she flagrantly and knowingly violated the laws that protect classified information and government records. And these new emails refute Hillary Clinton’s repeated claims of having little or no knowledge about her email system. She clearly was fully in charge of setting up her outlaw email system and overseeing its use. When will the Justice Department act?”

Aspirin February 18, 2018 at 11:00 AM

Forget Hillary.

Worry about the idiot in the White House.

Fred P. February 18, 2018 at 4:54 PM

Why “worry” about the idiot on the White House? We have aspirin right here on claycord.

NunYa February 19, 2018 at 5:37 AM

Hillary for Prison 2018


Dr Jellyfinger February 19, 2018 at 8:01 PM

We can’t forget Hillary…. she won’t let us!
After she gets her comeuppance… and goes to prison, then I can forget her.

Original G February 18, 2018 at 8:33 AM

Laws of supply and demand evidently apply in a semi-purgatory created by Democrats.

“SF Bay Area experiences mass exodus of residents, leading to a shortage of U-Haul trucks and sky-high prices for scarce outbound trucks”

“Bay Area is top region for outward migration in the U.S.: Here’s where people are going”

“So many people are leaving the Bay Area, a U-Haul shortage is jacking up prices”

Aspirin February 18, 2018 at 10:59 AM

And yet real estate values keep climbing due to a shortage of homes caused my the massive employment gains made in California.

Fred P. February 18, 2018 at 5:36 PM

Aspirin – then prove your claim.

Original g provided references. What makes you think you’re above that?

Original G February 18, 2018 at 9:20 AM

Ruben Gallego a Congressman from AZ in typical Democrat infantile partisanship proved a person can be stupid at the speed of light using social media.

“Arizona Congressman and Iraq war veteran Ruben Gallego furiously lashed out at the president calling him a ‘psychopath’ for making victims of the Florida school shooting about him.

Democratic Rep. Gallego responded to the president’s missive on Twitter: ‘You are such a psychopath that you have to make even the death of 17 children about you. America will regret the day you were ever born.’

The Congressman war vet tweeted at Trump in under five minutes of Trump’s tweet in which the president insinuated the 17 deaths were the fault of the FBI who were busy ‘trying to prove Russian collusion with the Trump campaign’ to see the ‘many signals sent out by the Florida school shooter,’ he wrote.”

Gallego took became a Congressman in January 2015 and was silent when in October 2015 then President mirror worshiper Obama spoke about mass shooting in Oregon, managing to refer to himself 28 times in a 12 minute teleprompter lecture. He managed to somehow refer to himself more than twice a minute.

TIFOKCIS February 18, 2018 at 9:30 AM

I saw it on CNN.

AlwaysBePositive February 18, 2018 at 10:04 AM

Saturday March 24th…
And the children will lead us.


TIFOKCIS February 18, 2018 at 11:45 AM

I might cry too if Hillary was POTUS, but she’s not.

Silva February 18, 2018 at 12:16 PM

Holy Mackerel… Grieving Russian families demand answers after ‘dozens’ of Putin’s secret mercenaries are killed in deadliest US-Russia battle since the Cold War

LocaI February 18, 2018 at 12:45 PM

Economists rip Trump’s spending spree as ‘foolhardy,’ ‘ludicrous,’ and ‘the dumbest’

A massive deficit will be President Donald Trump’s legacy, financial strategists are warning as the U.S. budget is expected to rise to accommodate the government’s spending plan.

Interest payments on debt are set to push the deficit over $2 trillion in the next decade from its current $440 billion, according to the Committee for a Responsible Budget.

Inflation data posted Wednesday came out at 0.5 percent for January, up from a previous 0.4 percent and 10-year Treasury yield was higher on Thursday at around 2.931 percent.

Silva February 18, 2018 at 1:56 PM

Welp. There is just no better predictor of future behavior than past behavior.

Yogurt February 18, 2018 at 3:28 PM

Wages go up

Inflation goes up

Investors don’t invest as much, so the interest rate goes up

Then the stock market goes down.

This is always the case and it’s strange that President Trump seems to think the health of the economy is tied solely to the stock market.

Aspirin February 18, 2018 at 4:46 PM

Trump has had six bankruptcies.

Apparently he is a slow learner.

Randy February 18, 2018 at 6:50 PM

Bankruptcies Trump knows what he’s doing. Someone always bails him out like the Russians or the Germans. Now he will bankrupt the US but there will be no one to bail him out this time.

Dr Jellyfinger February 18, 2018 at 7:40 PM

Six bankruptcies? Out of what… I believe it is about 500 businesses he has owned or had a controlling share of the stock?
Yeah what a loser… “Billionaire” loser that is.

Dr Jellyfinger February 18, 2018 at 2:53 PM

And the “most deplorable comment of the year contest” has a new leader.

Dr Jellyfinger February 19, 2018 at 8:03 PM

Well …. correctly, the comment was deleted…. but you still hold the lead Local!

Dr Jellyfinger February 18, 2018 at 3:01 PM
Yogurt February 18, 2018 at 3:30 PM

That was all over the news recently. I’m not sure what your point is

Dr Jellyfinger February 18, 2018 at 6:15 PM

No point being made….. just the drive by media didn’t give it alot of play between their Trump bashing stories… so I’m just sharing…
This one too:

Silva February 18, 2018 at 6:57 PM

I also posted a story like your second one from another source earlier today. That’s some serious caca.

Dr Jellyfinger February 18, 2018 at 8:02 PM

Except for Silva that is!

Aspirin February 18, 2018 at 4:44 PM

The bad smell from the White House is getting worse.

Something is rotting inside.

PandoraHD February 18, 2018 at 5:53 PM

the stink from the swamp being drained.

Venice February 18, 2018 at 10:46 PM

Most of that smell should have been cleared up from the fumigation that took place prior to Trump’s arrival.

Silva February 18, 2018 at 5:34 PM

How embarrassing. Thanks for bringing class to the WH!!! LOL !!

Silva February 18, 2018 at 6:52 PM

After visiting the families of Sandy Hook, Obama sat alone in a classroom for hours before attending a prayer vigil . After a brief visit and grinning photo op with a couple of victims in a Florida Hospital, Trump attended a party at Mar-a-lago.

Original G February 18, 2018 at 7:12 PM

How did 13 Russians know to engage voters in Wisconsin and Hillary didn’t ?

Original G February 19, 2018 at 6:56 AM

Are liberal politicians and their media willing to let children be killed for their gun control fantasy ?

“What society in human history ever gathered its children together,
then issued a public guarantee that they would be left completely undefended?” Alex Rawls

“The only person trained and armed to fight back against an assailant at Stoneman Douglas is its one school resource officer, a Broward Sheriff’s deputy funded by the city of Parkland. But Maxwell said she doesn’t think he was on campus when the shooting happened.

“I have been told by a couple of sources that the SRO was either called off campus responding to something happening or it could have been his day off,” she said. “They are stretched very thin.””

Original G February 19, 2018 at 7:32 AM

“This is an absolute BOMBSHELL and needs more coverage: VP of Facebook Ads, Rob Goldman says majority of Russian ads were AFTER THE ELECTION and calls out the Mainstream Media for not covering it.”

TIFOKCIS February 19, 2018 at 7:44 AM

AlwaysBePositive is the type incapable of thinking for herself. She doesn’t teach her children boundaries, rules or respect. ABP claimed I am “the type to yell at kids for playing on my lawn”. So when the fertilizer I just spread on my lawn makes her kids sick she can blame me. Maybe I recently planted seed, the soil is very wet and not only would her kids wreck my new grass they’d get muddy and make a mess (I can only imagine I’d be at fault for that too).

The bottom line here is: its not her kids property, its not her property yet in the mind of a Liberal the entire planet belongs to them, their Socialistic view of the world.

I am sill waiting for ABP’s address so that I can come over and “play” on her lawn. See how she likes my 5000lbs toys.

TIFOKCIS February 19, 2018 at 7:51 AM

Anther fine example of Liberalism.

Common sense NO
Follow the rules NO
Be prepared NO
I know best YES
Chains are for other people YES

Tire chains will soon be considered racist and banned in CA.

Fred P. February 20, 2018 at 6:54 AM

Why am I not surprised…..

PandoraHD February 19, 2018 at 8:37 AM

North Korea is accepting disgruntled Americans.

Fred P. February 19, 2018 at 9:41 AM

Randy – don’t know why you’re suggesting I move. It seems that you and aspirin are the only ones complaining and whining….. I’m happy here.

Give no that, it seems that, if you’re NOT happy here…. then move your a$$.

Do you understand? Or do I have to use words with fewer syllables?

Original G February 19, 2018 at 9:46 AM

” New misconduct allegations have been leveled against California Assemblywoman Cristina Garcia — the high-profile #MeToo movement activist under investigation herself for alleged sexual harassment — including a claim that Garcia urged staffers to play “spin the bottle” after a political fundraiser.

David John Kernick has filed a formal complaint with the California Department of Fair Employment and Housing claiming he was dismissed from his job in Garcia’s district office for questioning the propriety of asking staffers to play the game.” …

“A Sacramento-based lobbyist who spoke to POLITICO corroborated their accounts of a free-wheeling and alcohol-fueled workplace.

The industry lobbyist said he was surprised last year when, during a late-morning policy meeting in Garcia’s Capitol office, the assemblywoman poured beer from a kegerator — a refrigerator with a beer tap on top — located in her office.”

A Democrat.

JWB February 19, 2018 at 1:34 PM

Freddy you’re right you do illustrate your ongoing hypocrisy and lies ….

Just to give you a few I’m sure there are many more, but I know facts don’t matter to you.

Rep. Trent Franks, R-Ariz
Rep. Blake Farenthold, R-Texas
Roy Moore, the Republican nominee for Senate in Alabama
Pennsylvania Rep. Patrick Meehan
Kentucky House speaker Jeff Hoover
Kentucky State Rep. Dan Johnson
Republican Rep. Mark Foley
Dennis Hastert former Speaker of the House
Former President George H.W. Bush
Republican Party finance chairman Steve Wynn
President Donald Trump

Dr Jellyfinger February 19, 2018 at 8:16 PM

More harrasment charges? Oh Puhleeze!

Whether character is a factor or not is relevant only as it relates to what the people want in terms of a President.
They’re looking for someone with the character to get the economy back on track and answer the more serious questions facing this country.

Original G February 19, 2018 at 10:48 PM

Fair warning, once source of first article is revealed liberals may run off screaming into the night. So let’s get it over with first off, breitbart.

“On February 19 the Los Angeles Times claimed that there would be no mass shooters if a “mass-shooting gun” like the AR-15 was banned.

The Times claimed Florida attacker Nickolas Cruz would not have been able to hurt or kill nearly as many people if he had been using a “six-shooter or pistol” instead of an AR-15. They tried to hedge their statement by limiting the pistol to “9 rounds,” which works out to ten rounds (counting one in the chamber), and has no bearing on the success of a mass public attacker.

For example, on April 16, 2007, Seung-Hui Cho used a pistol to shoot and killed people at Virginia Tech University. That is nearly twice as many as were killed in Florida, all killed with a handgun. And a Virginia Tech Review Panel determined that the capacity of the magazines used in the attack was not a determining factor in the outcome. This is because Cho had an important factor on his side–time. Gun-free zones give mass shooters all the time they need to pause, reload, and start shooting again. So the difference between having ten rounds and having 15 rounds is negligible.”

And they are exactly correct, gun free zones guarantee mass shooters extra time to reload or discard a firearm and pull another loaded one to continue shooting without fear of an armed person challenging them.

Liberals laid down outside The White House and others marched in FL.
but not for mental health or insuring existing procedures and laws are followed.

If they researched they’d find prior to Sandy Hook mass shooting.
“Connecticut Mental Health Bill Defeated Months Before Deadly School Shooting”

If they took time to review they would find Virginia Tech killer had documented mental issues which should have prevented purchase of firearms.
Report of the Review Panel Presented to Governor Kaine Commonwealth of Virginia

OR were gun free zone created with a goal of having dead children to push gun control ? Gun industry historically does not give any significant amount in campaign contributions to Democrats.

We already saw first hand how Democrats treated Exxon after they stopped giving money.
“Election 2016: Hillary Clinton Demands Probe of Exxon After Oil Giant Stops Funding Clinton Foundation”
Exxon Total Contributions by Party of Recipient

“Members of Congress are asking for a federal investigation into Exxon Mobil.

Rep. Ted Lieu (D-Los Angeles) and Rep. Mark DeSaulnier (D-Walnut Creek) wrote a letter Wednesday to Atty. Gen. Loretta Lynch asking the Department of Justice whether the company violated the law by “failing to disclose truthful information” regarding climate change.”
“California Atty. Gen. Kamala D. Harris is investigating whether Exxon Mobil Corp. repeatedly lied to the public and its shareholders about the risk to its business from climate change — and whether such actions could amount to securities fraud and violations of environmental laws.”
“Liberal attorneys general from 17 states have put a big red bulls-eye on the chest of big oil.”

Gun-Free School Zones Act of 1990
“Introduced in the Senate as S.3266 by Joseph R. Biden Jr. (D-DE) on October 27, 1990”

101st United States Congress January 3, 1989 – January 3, 1991
Senate Majority Democratic
House Majority Democratic

“What society in human history ever gathered its children together,
then issued a public guarantee that they would be left completely undefended?” Alex Rawls

Would career politicians actually pass a law in order to get children killed to punish and industry that doesn’t contribute enough ? ?

Of course they wouldn’t.

Fred P. February 20, 2018 at 7:01 AM

Yet the democrats/liberals FAIL to see the problem. They see an easy scapegoat.

1. A DUI driver mows down children – why don’t the liberals blame the tool (ie, the car)?
2. A traffic violator speeds away from the police who are chasing him; he crashes and the liberals blame the police.
3. Gun free zones tell attackers that nobody there will be able to quickly stop them, so they have time to build up the body count until somebody with a gun arrives to stop them.
4. When an entertainment venue is gun free, the patrons either have to travel there disarmed, or leave their guns in their cars. Criminals love this because it makes it easy for them to steal those guns, and then you have that many more available on the black market.
5. Did we blame the bomb in OK City at the Murrah Building?
6. Did we blame the airplanes on 9/11 and try to ban them?
7. Did anyone call for pressure cooker regulations after the Boston Marathon bombing?

Prosecute the people who misuse firearms, but don’t disarm the responsible law-abiding citizens. Predators will always obtain the weapons they want. Disarming the rest of us only makes us prey. Unfortunately, those calling for disarmament have a very simplisitic shortsighted view of the world.

Then they say “we don’t want to take all of your guns”….


Original G February 19, 2018 at 11:55 PM

Media and most folks were baffled as to why Obama portrait for the Smithsonian had such a strange background. Where did the creator get the idea for all that foliage?

Fred P. February 20, 2018 at 8:44 AM

1. Sheriff’s deputies visited the home of Nikolaus Cruz 39 times over the past few years due to problems, yet nothing was done.
2. The FBI was warned several times about Cruz, yet nothing was done.
3. Former friends of Cruz warned the school about Cruz – yet the school administration did nothing.
4. Cruz was diagnosed with ADHD and autism, and was undergoing depression due to his mother’s death, yet nothing was flagged.

So what happens? Everyone blames the gun.

Original G February 20, 2018 at 9:14 AM

“We’re not compromising school safety. We’re really saving the lives of kids,” boasted Michaelle Valbrun-Pope, executive director of Student Support Initiatives for Broward County Public Schools, in August 2017.

Valbrun-Pope was referring to what an article by Jeffrey Benzing in Public Source calls the “Broward County Solution.” As Benzing relates, Broward County used to lead the state of Florida in sending students to the state’s juvenile justice system. County leaders responded with a perfectly progressive solution: “lower arrests by not making arrests.”

Authorities agreed to treat twelve different misdemeanor offenses as school-related issues, not criminal ones. The results impressed the people who initiated the program. Arrests dropped from more than a thousand in 2011-2012 to less than four hundred just four years later.

One particular motivation behind programs like Broward County’s was the pressure from multiple sources to reduce the statistical disparity between black and Hispanic student arrests on one hand and white and Asian student arrests on the other.”

So it’s about arrest and incarceration numbers in Florida like it is in CA?

Sound familiar, “lower arrests by not making arrests.” ???

Again from the article, “In July 2012, the Obama administration formalized the pressure on school districts with an executive order warning school districts to avoid “methods that result in disparate use of disciplinary tools.”

Does allowing progressive liberals to run things come at too high a price?

WC resident February 20, 2018 at 11:15 AM

@Fred P. – If the gun had not been available to Cruz then it’s likely the shooting never would have happened.

Republicans have been opposing Democratic efforts to expand the existing no-fly list to also be a no-buy list. At present people on the no-fly list are allowed to purchase firearms and explosives.

Hindsight says that Cruz should have been flagged as “no-buy” if we had such a list in Florida or at the federal level. In California a 5150 hold also results in the person both getting added to California’s no-buy list and having their existing firearms taken away from them. I don’t know if Florida has a similar system and even if they did if Cruz ever said or did anything that would have merited a full 5150 style hold. In California many people get taken in for 5150 evaluations but never formally are held or detained under 5150 meaning they are still eligible to keep and purchase firearms. Cruz may well have slipped through Florida’s 5150 net, if one exists there.

Fred P. February 20, 2018 at 11:34 AM

That’s not unlike what Jerry Brown just did with the decriminalizing of laws where a gun was used in the commission of a crime in California. Just like decriminalizing some other laws (ie, boosting a misdemeanor from $400 to $950 for petty theft).

Ignoring (ie, not arresting) violators makes the arrest rate look good – or makes it look like the politcians have done something. In reality, the violators have less to worry about and the public has more to worry about.

The liberals will then jump on the bandwagon, pointng to the lower arrest rate, saying “look, the democrats are reducing the arrest rate, so we need to keep re-electing them.” And they’ll CONTINUE to chip away at our rights while pretending to do something, and catering to the low-information voters for re-election.

TIFOKCIS February 20, 2018 at 11:21 AM

More gun laws for those law abiding school shooters to abide by. Makes perfect sense to a Liberal.

Yep, more laws have made crime in the USA almost obsolete.

We didn’t have these problems when little brats were getting spanked at home and bullied at school. Now that they’re able to spit in their parents face walk among normal kids behaving like freaks its getting worse and worse.

Allowing humans to cleanse their environment may not be the Liberal thing to do, but it worked for thousands of years.

Liberal Mantra……..if its working we have to fix it.

Original G February 20, 2018 at 11:51 AM

Time to reflect, again Mike gives careful thought and a place to begin.

“Mike Rowe shared his thoughts on the recent tragedy at Stoneman Douglas High School, and it will blow anything the establishment media has to say out of the water.

Rowe wrote on Facebook, “Evil is real. As long as humans have walked the earth, people have chosen to do evil things. This is what happened in Florida. A nineteen-year old man chose to do an evil thing. He planned it. He executed it. He succeeded.”

Rowe also said that while it’s important to find out the contributing causes of mass shooters, we shouldn’t absolve the killer of responsibility for his actions.

“Should we endeavor to know why? Absolutely. Should we discuss the impact of video games, accessible firearms, single-parents, no parents, powerful medications, social media, mental illness, bullying, or anything else we think might have encouraged him to choose evil over good? Without question.”

“But we should also stop confusing the influence of such things, with the root cause. Because nothing in this man’s past can possibly explain his decision to kill seventeen people,” Rowe added.
“If you believe otherwise, ask yourself why millions of other people with a similar past, don’t make similar choices.” ”

For rest of the article.

Fred P. February 20, 2018 at 11:56 AM

Why have there been more mass shootings under Obama then the four previous presidents combined (data from late 2015)?

We live in a world of short-term memories and long-term memory deficiencies. If the 24-hour news cycle was any indication, Americans appear to be bouncing from one catastrophic mass shooting to the next, with hardly any breathing room. Like this is just a regular occurrence America has learned to endure because… guns. It’s the prevalence of firearms in the hands of the people, the anti-gunners say. Calls to limit, rewrite, redefine, or outright dispose of the 2nd Amendment are rampant.
But no one is looking at the data. If they did, they would realize something is really, really, really wrong here.

No, there haven’t always been so many mass shootings. It hasn’t always been this way. Mass shootings have skyrocketed in this country just in the last seven years under President Obama.

The following was compiled using the database over at Mother Jones on mass shootings in the U.S. from 1982—2015, up to and including the shooting at Umpqua Community College in Oregon on October 1st, 2015. It also includes the Wikipedia lists for mass shootings in the United States by year and postal killings in the U.S. The following analysis considers the FBI’s definition of a mass murder, which is defined as “a number of murders (four or more) occurring during the same incident, with no distinctive time period between the murders”.

When all incidents where four or more people were shot in a single event are broken out by president going back to Reagan (considering the database only stretches back to 1982), there just so happens to have been a startling increase in mass shootings since Obama, the most pro-gun control president America has had in modern history, took office.







Look at the difference between all other presidents and Barack Obama.

Notice anything here? We’re talking about a more than six-fold increase from the number of mass shootings in the eight years Bush Jr. was president compared to the last seven years under Obama, and his 2nd term isn’t even up yet! Not only that, but the number of mass shootings where the shooter killed eight or more people has also increased rather significantly:

What is going on here?
Obviously this isn’t so easily simplified as more guns in the hands of more crazy people, the way the media likes to spin it. We have more gun laws now than ever before. Less types of guns are legally available to the average citizen than ever before. We also have more “gun-free zones,” zones where, just by the way, most of these shootings happen (because mass shooters do not follow laws or care about zones, obviously). So that’s not it.

We have debated whether or not antidepressant medications are playing a role in these events. Even a cursory glance at the SSRI stories school shootings database would suggest there is some substantial evidence behind this theory. We know that many of these mass shooters were either on psychotropic medications at the time of the shooting, or withdrawing from them.

However, Prozac was approved for use in the United States back in 1987. Antidepressant medications have been around and in widespread use in America for decades now. That factor alone cannot entirely explain all these mass shootings recently.

Not to mention that five out of the 12 deadliest mass shootings in American history have happened not just since Barack Obama became president, but just under his first term as president alone. That’s nearly half.
Something else is going on here. So… what is it?

After the controversial Sandy Hook shooting, Obama passed 23 gun control executive orders. He continually says wants to do more and he’s frustrated with how limited his powers as mere president are. He continually mentions wishing America’s gun control mirrored that of the UK and Australia, two countries that passed strict, sweeping gun bans following what many have called single mass shooting false flag events which happened just weeks apart in March and April 1996.

The suspicious April 1999 mass shooting at Columbine High School didn’t accomplish nearly the same gun control implementation here in America, although it did happen under another highly pro-gun control president, Bill Clinton. Perhaps one false flag just isn’t enough in a country that has been built upon a Constitution with a Bill of Rights and a 2nd Amendment right to keep and bear arms. Perhaps it can only be killed death-by-a-thousand-cuts style.

Obama said gun control will be his #1 top issue of focus for the last year of his final term as president. He says his biggest frustration has been his inability to pass more gun control legislation.

He condemns these “routine” events and calls for more gun control each time another one happens. After the recent Planned Parenthood shooting, he said, “we can’t let this become the new normal… enough is enough.”
But when did it become the new normal? While the 2nd Amendment continues to be attacked each and every time another mass shooting occurs, just realize something: these events were never this “routine” until Obama became president.


Just more talk by the liberals and their attempt to blame Trump and the NRA.

JWB February 20, 2018 at 1:05 PM
Rollo Tomasi February 21, 2018 at 9:50 AM

Standard fare from Snopes. It declares that the entire claim is false when in actuality, after compiling the numbers in what they claim is the correct way, the only false part of the claim is that shootings during Obama’s tenure outnumbered the four previous administrations COMBINED. Imagine the relief of Obamaphytes. There were still more mass shootings during Obama’s tenure, and the events where 8 or more were killed were more than double any of the four previous administrations, three of which were two term administrations.Of course, the data in the article didn’t include 2016…

Aspirin February 21, 2018 at 4:04 PM

Of course it is all Obama’s fault – a favorite position by people not wanting to accept responsibility for anything.

Rollo Tomasi February 21, 2018 at 7:49 PM

@ Aspirin:
Did you just type that with a straight face? I laughed so hard I blew milk through my nose. Russians? Misogyny? Any of this ring a bell?

They’re just statistics – no blame assigned to Obama. Unlike you and the rest of the hand wringing lefty loons, I blame who’s responsible – the shooters.

Randy February 20, 2018 at 6:56 PM

How the Republicans and the NRA stole the second amendment

Venice February 21, 2018 at 12:57 PM

Hey Fred have you ever read an original statement from that randy thing? I haven’t.

Original G February 20, 2018 at 9:01 PM

Should those 13 Russians be given the Nobel Prize for saving The World ?

TIFOKCIS February 21, 2018 at 7:08 AM


TIFOKCIS February 21, 2018 at 7:11 AM

Coloring books, hot cocoa, puppies, yelling at the sky, marches, Antifa, school shooters.

All about ‘progression’.

So emotional.

Randy February 21, 2018 at 1:32 PM

Eliminate bump stocks, eliminate assault weapons, increase background checks, students stand up for your safety , where are the PTA’s re: gun control demands ? Oval Office stop tweeting and get your bullying, lack of empathy, threat to democracy, name calling, elitist , lying, self off the golf courses; where are the sanctions for voter meddling in our elections ? Protect our constitutional rights; shameful damage done on a daily basis; unpresidential ; legislators – take gun control action now; talk about needing more mental health ? Start with the White House supposed leader

Venice February 21, 2018 at 3:05 PM

How should ones mental health be evaluated? What level of competence should be expected? Who decides?
Based on your unstable hate driven emotional sounding rant, I believe a comprehensive background check would prevent you from purchasing a gun legally, randy.

Original G February 21, 2018 at 3:20 PM

If Democrat politicians would walk their blather they would have already done something about gun violence in large cities they control. They have certainly had enough time.

Highest murder rates St. Louis, Baltimore, Detroit, New Orleans, Newark, NJ, Milwaukee, Washington, DC, Kansas City, Cincinnati, Memphis, Oakland, Atlanta, Chicago you get the idea.

St. Louis has been electing Democrat mayors since 1949.
Both Baltimore and Oakland last had Republican mayors in 1960s.
Detroit last elected a Republican mayor in 1957.
Last Republican mayor of New Orleans elected in 1870.
Newark, N.J., hasn’t had a GOP mayor in more than a century.
1908 was last year Milwaukee had a Republican mayor.
Washington, DC has never elected a Republican Mayor.
Last republican Mayor of Kansas City left office 1991.
Cincinnati, OH hasn’t elected a republican Mayor since 1984.
Last republican Mayor of Atlanta left office in 1879.
Last republican Mayor of Memphis left office in 1886.
Chicago’s last GOP mayor was elected in 1927.

If democrats really cared and were tough on crime shouldn’t they have made a difference in these cities by now?
After all they have had more than enough time.
“Ensuring that Democrats continue to receive black votes in a monolithic block, it is in their interest for blacks to remain poor and resentful …” …

“If blacks in larger numbers entered the middle class, more of them would likely start voting Republican. No wonder the left makes sure to reinforce the idea that your skin color or ethnicity should determine your ideology and your vote…”

Randy February 21, 2018 at 3:46 PM

The highest murder rate by state are southern red states.

Aspirin February 21, 2018 at 4:00 PM

As long as the NRA has a noose around the neck of our Congress nothing meaningful will happen to control the epidemic gun violence across our country.

Aspirin February 21, 2018 at 3:58 PM

The pathetic Trump is blaming Obama for Russian interference in our election while Trump dismissed Russian interference as “fake news” for an entire year.

Now that his fake news claim has been exposed as a lie Trump wants to put the blame on Obama.

Aspirin February 21, 2018 at 4:13 PM

Justice Scalia:

“The majority’s conclusion is wrong for two independent reasons. The first reason is that set forth by JUSTICE STEVENS—namely, that the Second Amendment protects militia-related, not self-defense-related, interests. These two interests are sometimes intertwined. To assure 18th-century citizens that they could keep arms for militia purposes would necessarily have allowed them to keep arms that they could have used for self-defense as well. But self-defense alone, detached from any militia-related objective, is not the Amendment’s concern. The second independent reason is that the protection the Amendment provides is not absolute. The Amendment permits government to regulate the interests that it serves. Thus, irrespective of what those interests are— whether they do or do not include an independent interest gun in self-defense—the majority’s view cannot be correct unless it can show that the District’s regulation is unreasonable or inappropriate in Second Amendment terms. This the majority cannot do.”

The Second Amendment states simply that a “well regulated militia” can “keep and bear arms”. This is a military application.

The NRA’s lapdog, the GOP, has prostituted itself for the millions in donations from the NRA and its supporters.

Rollo Tomasi February 21, 2018 at 8:58 PM

Funny though how the words don’t actually say that. It says the right of the PEOPLE to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed, which lends itself to the militia cause. Militias are by definition not military units, rather made up of individuals not exempt from military service who are NOT engaged in active military service or the national guard.

Fred P. February 22, 2018 at 6:42 AM

The supreme court has ruled that “the Second Amendment extends, prima facie, to all instruments that constitute bearable arms, even those that were not in existence at the time of the founding” in Caetano vs Massachusetts in 2016.

It doesn’t matter what “arms” (not limiting to specific types) were then, and what they are now.

Aspirin – Read Section 311 of US Code Title 10, entitled, “Militia: composition and classes” in its entirety:

“(a) The militia of the United States consists of all able-bodied males at least 17 years of age and, except as provided in section 313 of title 32, under 45 years of age who are, or who have made a declaration of intention to become, citizens of the United States and of female citizens of the United States who are members of the National Guard.

(b) The classes of the militia are —

(1) the organized militia, which consists of the National Guard and the Naval Militia; and

(2) the unorganized militia, which consists of the members of the militia who are not members of the National Guard or the Naval Militia.”

There is NOTHING that limits it to military applications.

Your spin is obvious; but you’re probably the least qualified of all these posters to render a legal opinion. You claim otherwise? Then provide your CV, along with which jurisdictions you’re allowed to practice law in.

You can’t even pretend well.

Aspirin February 22, 2018 at 8:28 AM

The Amendment calls for a “well regulated” militia.

mi·li·tia n.
1. An army composed of ordinary citizens rather than professional soldiers.
2. A military force that is not part of a regular army and is subject to call for service in an emergency.
3. The whole body of physically fit civilians eligible by law for military service.

This does not include private citizens, teenagers, and nutcases.

Fred P. February 22, 2018 at 11:16 AM

aspirin – you know NOTHING of firearms or the Constitution.

Spread your lies elsewhere.

AlwaysBePositive February 22, 2018 at 3:03 PM

fp…Get off your high horse regarding your knowledge of the Constitution. You neglected to include the assertion from legal scholars that the limited nature of this case leaves it short of being a definite Constitutional declaration. That doesn’t mean it isn’t, it only means that it may not be. So…”You claim otherwise? Then provide your CV, along with which jurisdictions you’re allowed to practice law in.

You can’t even pretend well.”

AlwaysBePositive February 22, 2018 at 4:04 PM

rt…the 2nd Amendment doesn’t say what you said it says either…

Rollo Tomasi February 22, 2018 at 6:19 PM

Aspirin – ordinary citizens doesn’t mean private citizens? You can’t possibly believe the crap you write. Smoke another bowl…

Rollo Tomasi February 22, 2018 at 6:21 PM

“rt…the 2nd Amendment doesn’t say what you said it says either…

Then refute what I wrote. In your own words. With a reasonable grasp of grammar and written English.

Rollo Tomasi February 22, 2018 at 6:23 PM

Aspirin – do you understand that government regulation of consumer goods as we know it (other than taxes) didn’t even exist at the time the 2nd amendment was authored?

Fred P. February 22, 2018 at 8:57 PM

@abp… get off your high horse yourself. Aspirin is unable to defend her comments, so you have to come running to save her sorry butt.

Or maybe you’re just using multiple names on this blog.

Let her sink herself… if you can.

Didn’t think so.

AlwaysBePositive February 23, 2018 at 12:16 PM

fp…I’m not defending A, I’m pointing out how ridiculous your comments are.

AlwaysBePositive February 23, 2018 at 12:22 PM

rt…you’re getting stale. Sounds like you are using the “I’m not a puppet…she’s the puppet’ type of defense. Here goes. You said, ” the right of the PEOPLE to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed”. The 2nd Amendment says, “A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.”
You edited it, not only leaving out part of the Amendment, but also leaving out a comma that impacts the meaning of the Amendment. Anyone with ” a reasonable grasp of grammar and written English” should understand that. Try again.

Silva February 21, 2018 at 4:15 PM

Here’s an article in the Daily Mail on the “listening session” held at the White House today for school shooting survivors and others affected by similar tragedies. Something caught my eye. If you scroll to photo #5, it’s a zoomed in photo of Trump’s hands. I find a couple of things remarkable about it. 1) He’s wearing a shirt with “45” inked or embroidered on the cuff. 2) He’s holding crib notes or talking points probably prepared by another, of the simplest of things that any normal compassionate person would not need any help thinking up on their own.

Randy February 21, 2018 at 5:29 PM

He’s an idiot.

Rollo Tomasi February 21, 2018 at 9:00 PM

Maybe it’s .45? His favorite caliber?

TIFOKCIS February 21, 2018 at 4:29 PM

As a Second Amendment supporter I do have this to say.

Eat a damn cheeseburger once in a while and do some push-ups, then maybe you gun freak 150lbs sissies won’t ‘feel’ the need to gun up.

Randy February 21, 2018 at 5:33 PM

You got it wrong. The gun carrying are overweight towel boys who couldn’t make the team. Too many cheeseburgers. They need their guns to make up what they don’t have.

Rollo Tomasi February 21, 2018 at 9:19 PM

There are enough photos of shooters available to easily debunk your crap once again, Randy.

Aspirin February 22, 2018 at 8:32 AM

Check the gun lovers in YouTube videos as they engage in gun use stupidity.

Human mental evolution progress not yet apparent.

Rollo Tomasi February 22, 2018 at 6:10 PM

Check out the YouTube videos of kids just like those in Parkland eating Tide pods. No accounting for stupidity.

Original G February 21, 2018 at 5:05 PM

Democrat politicians were given bad news, Broward County schools in Florida are no longer gun free zones.

“Deputies will carry rifles on the grounds of local schools in Broward County in the wake of the Parkland school shooting, Broward Sheriff Scott Israel announced Wednesday.”

Randy February 21, 2018 at 9:12 PM

President Reagan was surrounded by armed Secret Service when he got shot. He could of used some armed math teachers.

Aspirin February 22, 2018 at 8:20 AM

A 10 foot high security fence and heavily controlled access points will be needed to fully protect our schools.

Or, a squad of armed deputies at each school in the USA.

And, effective and consistent national gun controls.

And, redirect NRA thinking towards using guns for sport and not for murder, which is what an AR-15 is designed for and for which the NRA continues to block any effective regulation.

elviss February 22, 2018 at 4:31 PM

It would be much easier to teach the students and teachers to stop bullying the learning disabled, the socially awkward, the students that don’t quite fit in, that one student that has recently undergone some life-altering event, the emotionally fragile, and so on, and so on, etc. Any animal that is teased, bated, abused, and bullied enough becomes mean and is likely to attack. Is it not, in fact, how fighting dogs are trained? I suspect the young man in Florida may have been a little slow on the uptake, and by the time anyone noticed, it was already too late. Youngsters who do this type of thing are not born to it … they are made.

Rollo Tomasi February 22, 2018 at 6:12 PM

An AR-15, like every other firearm, is designed to propel a projectile downrange at high velocity and with a high degree of accuracy. The target is at the sole discretion of the individual operating the rifle.

Rollo Tomasi February 22, 2018 at 6:25 PM

“He could of used some armed math teachers.”

Do you mean he could HAVE used some armed math teachers?

Silva February 22, 2018 at 7:28 PM

elviss you make an excellent point.

Dr Jellyfinger February 22, 2018 at 11:00 PM

So elviss…. are you saying that the Florida kids who are calling Marco Rubio, The NRA and it’s spokespeople “murderers” may in fact be part of the problem? They may have been the ones guilty of bullying and making the psycho kid snap & start shooting?

AlwaysBePositive February 23, 2018 at 8:41 AM

well said e…Listening to the public defender talk about the shooter as a broken human being really got to the point. Generally, people are hard wired not to kill. This kid had a miserable life, never got the intervention that may have helped him, and ended up making a decision that was ruinous to everyone.

elviss February 23, 2018 at 9:12 AM

Weren’t similar conditions present in the Sandy Hook incident? At one time, certain special needs students were mainstreamed into the general population, were they not? I don’t see the general population as potentially helpful in that situation. And, I don’t expect to see them spring forward to admit they might have had anything to do with it. They may not have even realized they were contributing to his dismay. They would be galvanized to tolerate a certain amount of playful abuse among friends that an outsider might find disturbing. We all know how cruel kids can be to one another. Group dynamics come into play here, as well as his relationship with teachers, who seemingly were not attuned to his needs, in my opinion. They simply may not have been trained to handle a difficult student with his set of problems.

Aspirin February 22, 2018 at 8:13 AM

GOP and NRA fools love their guns and they cannot accept the FACT that in America more guns = more gun violence.

Their fundamental misrepresentation of the Second Amendment is pure GOP NRA propaganda designed to thwart gun laws but it will not work much longer as people are beginning to understand the true meaning of “a well regulated militia”.

A promise: The day is coming when politicians will be no longer willing to pay the price for NRA money and support, and they will respect the will of the majority and the Constitution.

Silva February 22, 2018 at 10:13 AM

Regarding arming Teachers.. My prediction that the term “going postal” will undergo an evolution. In the foreseeable future “going postal” will be replaced with “going educator”.

A Listicle by the Center for Biological Diversity

AlwaysBePositive February 22, 2018 at 2:55 PM

The US already has a shortage of teachers. There is a ‘wave’ of teachers approaching retirement age. Fewer students are entering the teaching profession. 2nd career teachers that paid into Social Security are penalized for putting money into the teachers retirement program. Arming teachers will result in more teachers leaving the profession earlier.

School shootings are not the only thing that endanger our students.

Dr Jellyfinger February 22, 2018 at 9:37 PM

I think I’d have been a much more well behaved student if I thought the teacher was “packing”.

AlwaysBePositive February 23, 2018 at 8:36 AM

dj…not even slightly amusing

AlwaysBePositive February 22, 2018 at 11:08 AM

A question for all those who say, a gun is just a tool, the person is to blame.

What is the work that the AR-15 completes? When used correctly for the purpose it was designed for, what does it do?

Rollo Tomasi February 22, 2018 at 6:13 PM

In case you don’t read the above:
An AR-15, like every other firearm, is designed to propel a projectile downrange at high velocity and with a high degree of accuracy. The target is at the sole discretion of the individual operating the rifle.

Dr Jellyfinger February 22, 2018 at 8:57 PM

When used correctly an AR-15 kills bad guys or convinces them to surrender.

When used incorrectly it kills innocents ….. or is used by Democrats as a propaganda tool to demonize law abiding gun owners and the NRA in an attempt to confiscate all firearms and convert the United States of America from a Constitutional Republic, into a Socialist Union whose populace has been rendered incapable of offering any resistance…. and to avoid that result is precisely the reason why the founding fathers of this nation created the 2nd Amendment in the first place.

AlwaysBePositive February 23, 2018 at 8:35 AM

I totally disagree. First, the AR-15 is not a target practice weapon.
Second, the gun is amoral, it doesn’t determine bad guys. It is designed to kill. The rest of your statement is just semantic diarrhea .

Fred P. February 22, 2018 at 11:14 AM

CNN has denied scripting questions for Wednesday night’s town hall meeting on gun control and safety with survivors of the Parkland massacre.

Colton Haab, 17, a member of the Junior ROTC who shielded students with Kevlar vests while the school was under attack from the shooter, said he decided not to attend the televised meeting after the network rejected a question he wanted to ask and presented him with one of their own.

‘CNN had originally asked me to write a speech and questions and it ended up being all scripted,’ Haab told Miami’s WPLG-TV.

The network released a statement on Thursday morning refuting Haab’s allegation. It read: ‘There is absolutely no truth to this. CNN did not provide or script questions for anyone in last night’s town hall, nor have we ever.

Jake Tapper also worked for Handgun Control as well as

More proof that CNN is just a shill for the DNC.

Randy February 22, 2018 at 1:41 PM

It’s just smart business practices. Get over it.

AlwaysBePositive February 22, 2018 at 4:12 PM

Jake Tapper also worked for MTV. What’s your point?

Randy February 22, 2018 at 1:58 PM

What I Saw Treating the Victims From Parkland Should Change the Debate on Guns

They weren’t the first victims of a mass shooting the Florida radiologist had seen—but their wounds were radically different

AlwaysBePositive February 22, 2018 at 2:49 PM

There is no reason that military-style weapons should be on our streets.

Rollo Tomasi February 22, 2018 at 3:05 PM

The weapon used in Parkland has no military application.

Original G February 22, 2018 at 3:14 PM

There’s no reason a mentally impaired homicidal killer looking for his 15 minutes of fame and a place in history should have had firearms especially in view of him being reported to FBI tip line TWICE.

Those FBI tip lines at one time rang in regional FBI offices.
BUT some bean counting paperclip challenged individual near top of the food chain decided to consolidate all the tip lines into a “call center” staffed not with trained agents but with lower paid supposedly trained call takers.

An when did it open you might ask during the term of President Obama in 2012. Yet another obama administration failure.

But can’t say I’ve heard any Democrat politicians wailing and laying in front of The White House about it.

How many other agencies state and local also FAILED society and got 17 people killed?


Original G February 22, 2018 at 3:54 PM

Rifles in WW1 were bolt action as are many rifles used these days to hunt deer, bear, moose etc. should they also be banned?

In countries with strict gun control knives are used by the mentally ill.
“New year’s attacks take stabbing death toll in London in 2017 to 80”

“Knife-wielding attackers kill 29, injure 130 at China train station”

AlwaysBePositive February 22, 2018 at 4:01 PM

uuhh…that’s why I said style…

Original G February 22, 2018 at 5:44 PM

Would a bullet travel at same number of feet per second fired from each “Style” of rifle ?

Rollo Tomasi February 22, 2018 at 6:16 PM

Then be more specific. What do you mean by “military style”, and exactly which features make the AR-15 “military style”? Answer those two questions without researching.

Fred P. February 22, 2018 at 8:48 PM

What makes it “Military style “ are solely cosmetics. That has NOTHINGto do with the power or accuracy.

But the liberals continue to display their ignorance re: firearms.

AlwaysBePositive February 23, 2018 at 7:51 AM

Velocity of projectile and ability to load large magazines.

And where the heck do you get off telling me not to research something?

Chicken Little February 23, 2018 at 9:12 AM

Most hunting rifles are actually much more powerful than the AR-15 chambered in .223

The AR is much more suited to varmint hunting and pest control.

Randy February 23, 2018 at 9:27 AM

An 18 yr old who eats Tide pods should not have any gun.

AlwaysBePositive February 23, 2018 at 10:52 AM

cl…aren’t most hunting rifles that are higher exit velocity single shot rifles? I’m asking, not being sarcastic. I’ve hunted before, using a single shot .22 we would go out into the rice paddies in the valley and shoot water rats. At one point, I made a miracle shot (long distance) at a jackrabbit. When I got there, the animal had not died yet. The wound looked horrible. I killed it. That was the last hunting I’ve ever done. Man having dominion over animals does not give us license to create suffering.

Venice February 23, 2018 at 11:05 AM

Seems as though ABP got another well deserved beat-down.

AlwaysBePositive February 23, 2018 at 12:13 PM

v…it appears you may have a comprehension problem. Please elaborate.

Rollo Tomasi February 23, 2018 at 12:51 PM

ABP should the Ruger Mini-14 be banned? If so, why? If not, why not?

Rollo Tomasi February 23, 2018 at 12:55 PM

ABP if you had to research the questions I asked before, it tells me you haven’t already educated yourself on the topic enough for me to consider your opinions well informed or based on fact.

Original G February 22, 2018 at 8:21 PM

Article might better be called repeated failures to protect society going back TWO YEARS.

“‘School shooter in the making’: All the times authorities were warned about Nikolas Cruz”

What is it about liberals that wires them to give a pass to those who should have protected law abiding members of society and failed to act. Authorities had ample opportunities to intervene as timeline in the article lays out.

Why has the answer from liberal politicians for mental illness and homicidal behaviour historically been to attempt to limit the number of bullets which can be fired before reloading?

Are they impaired some how from dealing with the obvious mental health problem these killers have?

Come to think of it, wonder if all this could have been averted if some liberal had just given him one of those cheap plastic trophies they are so proud of giving out?

An please, be careful not to step on all the crickets we’re about to hear.

Elwood February 22, 2018 at 11:38 PM

Victor Davis Hanson explains it all to you:

The fix is in.

Original G February 22, 2018 at 11:39 PM

“A 10 foot high security fence and heavily controlled access points will be needed to fully protect our schools.”

So all of a sudden a fence to keep kids safe makes sense to a liberal ??

But we can’t have wall or a fence on our southern border to keep out violent gang members, drugs, sexual predators and possible terrorists because it might impend the flow of cheap labor for campaign contributors to Democrat career politicians, who are all to willing to exploit that cheap labor.

Think last time they were this upset was, the last time a Republican President freed slave laborers.

Aspirin February 23, 2018 at 7:31 AM

Security fences are used successfully everywhere. Check it out !

Yes, a 2,000 mile fence along our border might help to halt illegals but at what cost and how effective will it be?

Aspirin February 23, 2018 at 7:37 AM

“Title 18 of the United States Code provide mandatory and enhanced sentencing guidelines for armed career criminals and narcotics traffickers as well as other dangerous armed criminals.
ATF uses these statutes to target, investigate and recommend prosecution of these offenders to reduce the level of violent crime and to enhance public safety. ATF also strives to increase State and local awareness of available Federal prosecution under these statutes. To curb the illegal use of firearms and enforce the Federal firearms laws, ATF issues firearms licenses and conducts firearms licensee qualification and compliance inspections. In addition to aiding the enforcement of Federal requirements for gun purchases, compliance inspections of existing licensees focus on assisting law enforcement to identify and apprehend criminals who illegally purchase firearms.
The inspections also help improve the likelihood that crime gun traces will be successful, since inspectors educate licensees in proper record keeping and business practices.”

The NRA wants us to believe that we have a 2nd Amendment Constitutional right to own and use guns. We do not.

The Amendment is explicit in identifying who can own and use (“keep and bear arms”) guns. It does not say who cannot own and use guns.

That is determined only by Congress, laws, and regulation.

Elwood February 23, 2018 at 2:12 PM

I am continually amazed that Aspirin understands the Second Amendment but SCOTUS doesn’t.

AlwaysBePositive February 23, 2018 at 8:43 AM

Where are djt’s tax returns?

Elwood February 23, 2018 at 2:14 PM

At his attorneys’ offices where they will remain until at least 1/20/21.

Fred P. February 23, 2018 at 7:10 PM

They’re under Hillary’s emails and Obama’s college records.

AlwaysBePositive February 23, 2018 at 8:44 AM

When is Melania having the press conference to clarify her immigration status when she came to America?

Elwood February 23, 2018 at 2:15 PM

When pork becomes airborne.

AlwaysBePositive February 23, 2018 at 8:47 AM

When is djt going to fulfill his statement that he would be too busy to take any time off? He has spent at least 73 days golfing…

Elwood February 23, 2018 at 2:17 PM

And he did no work whatsoever during those 73 days.

Randy February 23, 2018 at 3:55 PM

elwood true if you disregard the Russians

Original G February 23, 2018 at 5:00 PM

Amazing what is out on the web.

Kirkwood February 23, 2018 at 10:36 AM

Although the comments to comments feature is nice, it would also be nice if the Mayor restored msg. numbers to the original msgs. It would help finding my place when checking back the next day.

Silva February 23, 2018 at 5:30 PM

Yes, it would. Though it would be like having our cake and eating it too. 🖒

AlwaysBePositive February 23, 2018 at 12:23 PM

Saturday March 24th…
And the children will lead us.


Aspirin February 23, 2018 at 12:27 PM

“Gun control is the set of laws or policies that regulate the manufacture, sale, transfer, possession, modification, or use of firearms by civilians. Most countries have a restrictive firearm guiding policy, with only a few legislations being categorized as permissive. Jurisdictions that regulate access to firearms typically restrict access to only certain categories of firearms and then to restrict the categories of persons who will be granted a firearms license to have access to a firearm.”

Unfortunately we have traded our peace and safety for NRA slogans and misinformation and a permissive GOP more interested in NRA money than what is best for the country.

Our worse-than-useless GOP infested Congress is a part of the problem when it should be part of the solution.

Boot the fools out next election.

Elwood February 23, 2018 at 2:18 PM

Aspirin can always be counted on to make a total partisan ass of herself.

Original G February 23, 2018 at 4:45 PM

“Muzzle energy is the kinetic energy of a bullet as it is expelled from the muzzle of a firearm. It is often used as a rough indication of the destructive potential of a given firearm or load. The heavier the bullet and especially the faster it moves, the higher its muzzle energy and the more damage it will do.

The general formula for the kinetic energy is E k = 1/ 2 m v 2
where v is the velocity of the bullet m is the mass of the bullet.”

It is unfortunate so many liberals believe what liberal politicians say, but even worse is believing as true what talking heads of the liberal media SPEW.

Just because a gun is “ugly” to liberals and their media minions does not make bullets which come out of it have any more velocity than a “pretty” gun, with polished wooden stocks and intricate designs carved by hand by metal artisans, with comparable barrel lengths.

What should have liberals ticked off is politicians they elect can’t be bothered with making sure EXISTING Laws, reporting requirements are fulfilled and reports of threatening behaviour are followed up on.

They only care about getting their free face time on TV.

An why on earth did you allow them to use your children as BAIT sitting in schools to lure out rabid mentally defective killers? They insured a good guy with a gun is at least five minutes away. And to not get too many dead kids they limited size of ammo clips, which is easily defeated by a rabid killer bringing multiple weapons. Discarding them as they go empty and never reloading.

“What society in human history ever gathered its children together,
then issued a public guarantee that they would be left completely undefended?” –Alex Rawls

Gun free zones are good for one thing, Body Count.

Gun-Free School Zones Act of 1990 “Introduced in the Senate as S.3266
by Joseph R. Biden Jr. (D-DE) on October 27, 1990”

101st United States Congress January 3, 1989 – January 3, 1991
Senate Majority Democrat
House Majority Democrat

Original G February 23, 2018 at 5:58 PM

Take a few minutes and reflect on your post.
Should it be brought to the attention of the Secret Service?

Original G February 23, 2018 at 7:00 PM

Post referred to, has been taken down.

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