Claycord – Talk About Local Politics

February 16, 2018 19:00 pm · 27 comments

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This special post is “Talk About LOCAL Politics”.

Please use this post to talk about LOCAL politics, and keep state and national politics out of this thread.

Thank you, and be kind to each other.

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Amy February 16, 2018 at 10:58 PM

What happened at the City Council meeting regarding the ban on pot stores opening in our city’s neighborhood shopping centers?

Concord Mike February 17, 2018 at 6:18 PM

Amy, back in November a 3/2 majority of the city council voted for a temporary ban pending city staff development of proposals for pot manufacturing and retail.

Mayor Birsan wants Concord to become the only city in central county to open up large scale marijuana manufacturing and retail sales. Councilmember Leone voted against the ban as well, so I presume he also wants Concord to go to pot.

The city staff recently held a workshop – attended mostly by pot users and sellers – to present recommendations for locations and regulations. This meeting was not well advertised and I have yet to see the city post slides or maps from that meeting on its special cannibis website.

Next month the city will take their pot proposals to the planning commission, where no doubt opponents like me will be seriously outnumbered by the pot sellers and users – many of whom don’t even live in Concord.

I am still hopeful our city council will resist the $$$ temptation to put marijuana outlets in our neighborhoods. Three council members voted for the temporary ban. Council members Obringer, McGallian, and Hoffmeister need to hear from their constituents who don’t want Concord to become the regional headquarters for cannibis and all its social pathologies. Believe me, they are getting letters and calls every week from pot users and sellers.

AlwaysBePositive February 22, 2018 at 3:56 PM

cm…no liquor stores in your area? There is no need to fear cannabis, just don’t use it if you don’t want it.

Original G February 22, 2018 at 4:39 PM

Let’s check cannabis stores after a year and see if out front looks like this picture.
http://itaintholywater.blogspot.com/2018/02/liquor-store-parking.html

ON DA February 17, 2018 at 11:41 AM

Neigh

It only takes one vote cast by dissention to nullify even the Governor’s declarations.

Look it up

Here’s one clue. Treaty Versailles and um…

KAD February 17, 2018 at 10:13 PM

The CAC meeting is going to be held on Tuesday at 6:00. I received a notice that it was cancelled but there is an Agenda on the City Web Site. After I spotted the Agenda, I received an email telling me the meeting would be held.

The Navy will be there to discuss the cleanup of the property.

Concord Mike February 21, 2018 at 9:17 AM

The slides and notes from the Feb 12 Canabis workshop at city hall are now up on the special canabis website the city set up. This is the “secret” meeting the city held with notice going only to a group of “interested parties” and property owners in the areas proposed for commercial pot testing and processing.

Please note the map on page 11 shows only proposed locations for testing, distribution, and manufacturing facilities. Retail locations targeting our neighborhoods won’t be published for a couple of months.

Stay tuned…..

http://www.cityofconcord.org/pdf/projects/marijuana/workshop_02122018.pdf

Hope Johnson February 21, 2018 at 11:09 AM

Residents of North Concord and the Monument take note – all of the locations being explored for testing, distribution, and manufacturing are in the North Concord and Monument areas. As always, Concord’s City Council thinks these areas are where they can place everything they think is “undesirable.”

I personally am not opposed to some facilities being in these areas but this industry must be shared by the entire city, not just the areas where our Councilmembers don’t live. Anyone who doesn’t understand the currently proposed district election boundaries were drawn to maintain this status quo is only fooling themselves.

Concord Mike February 21, 2018 at 12:50 PM

Hope, I know you and I disagree on the subject of marijuana processing and retail sales in Concord, but I think you would agree with the following point:

None of these locations are anywhere near the homes or neighborhoods of our city government managers. Our chief of police lives out near the Clayton border and many of our highest paid city managers don’t even live in Concord.

Hope Johnson February 21, 2018 at 2:19 PM

Concord Mike, I actually don’t know where any of the city managers or Chief Swanger live. I do know some of them live in other cities. However, only commissioners appointed by the City Council and the City Council itself get to vote approval or disapproval.

Well Folk February 22, 2018 at 8:49 AM

Hope & Mike – CORRECTION. Edi lives in the Monument.

Hope Johnson February 22, 2018 at 9:41 AM

Well Folks – under the district lines proposed by Council, Birsan wouldn’t be in the Monument, which he lives well outside of the dense area anyway, so that’s what we are referring to here.

WC resident February 21, 2018 at 10:28 AM

What’s the web address of the “special cannibis website” itself?

Hope Johnson February 21, 2018 at 11:01 AM

City of Concord web page for information on cannabis:

http://www.cityofconcord.org/page.asp?pid=7050

Hope Johnson February 21, 2018 at 2:29 PM

Over the last several years, I have tried to explain there are circumstances where the Navy will not be responsible for some of the clean up at the Concord Naval Weapons Station. At last night’s CAC meeting, the project director Guy Bjerke confirmed that it is possible the remediation work can be privatized. He said if the Navy’s funds for clean up are delayed in some way, then Concord will work with Lennar to privatize the clean up so there is no delay in moving forward with the development. Concord needs to be vigilant in making sure the land is properly cleaned, especially when a notoriously untrustworthy developer with a financial interest in moving fast takes over clean up.

KAD February 22, 2018 at 12:36 AM

That is a very scary thought. It is bad enough that the record keeping was so dismal. There is no telling what is where on that property.

Silva February 22, 2018 at 4:41 PM

It is very scary, considering Lennar’s record.

Forsythe February 22, 2018 at 11:24 AM

Some questions regarding opening marijuana stores in Concord.

Will the City of Concord do any environmental impact studies before they rush to grab “Big Marijuana” tax dollars?

Is Concord taking shortcuts to fast-track the opening pot stores?

Will Walnut Creek open any pot stores any time soon? (Or are they less in need of the tax money?)

Should Concord ensure that programs are put into place to help educate young people about the dangers of marijuana before any pot stores are opened? I looked at Concord’s marijuana web page and didn’t see any plans regarding this.

Young people will be (by default) the primary target market. But then again, maybe fried young people’s brains will help pay off Concord’s pension liabilities.

Is there any mention of any kind of environmental impact? Take a close look at the map. The poorer neighborhoods with more vulnerable, at risk, families and youth will be impacted the most.

http://www.cityofconcord.org/page.asp?pid=7050

Concord Mike February 22, 2018 at 12:52 PM

As far as I know, Concord is the only central county city seriously considering opening marijuana commercial and/or retail storefront operations.

Cities like Walnut Creek, Lafayette, Clayton, Pleasant Hill are not wasting huge amounts of public resources on this. They will be happy to have Concord take this business, and all the social and crime problems which will follow.

Recall 'Em All February 22, 2018 at 3:24 PM

Really?
“They” do whatever will generate income – Starbucks at Treat and Clayton Road, a Duncin Donuts in a building that won’t support it, and on the way to the mess at Clayton Road and Treat!
Every decision has dollar signs behind it – there is no wisdom or thought about the future or quality of life. EVER! Oh, unless it can have a plaque with “their” names on it.

AlwaysBePositive February 22, 2018 at 3:59 PM

cm…perhaps you could enlighten us on the social and criminal impact resulting from Concord moving ahead with these legal businesses.

Concord Mike February 22, 2018 at 9:10 PM

AlwaysBePositive,

Back in the 1950’s1960’s big tobacco fought every negative report about the health hazards of smoking. Are you old enough to remember that?

Those who don’t learn from history are in jeopardy of repeating it.

Big tobacco told us smoking cigarettes was good for your lungs. Good for your skin,sinus problems, etc. They funded institutions and doctors to defend those claims, and argue against those who said otherwise.

Today we face a very well funded and well connected marijuana industry which is pumping out its own misleading statistics and making sure their story is told at the top of the Google search results. I can site studies that show increases in crime and traffic accidents in states which have legalized recreational pot, but you will also find many other stories from sources friendly to the MJ industry that attempt to contradict this reality and push their own narrative.

Concord has a large substance abuse problem. Just look around and you will see that. Marijuana use results in addiction for anywhere from 10-30% of those who smoke it according to government studies. Marijuana is expensive, and remains expensive even in states where production is legal. Put an expensive product which also has addictive qualities in a low or middle income community like Concord and you get crime. Doesn’t take a genius to figure that out.

AlwaysBePositive February 23, 2018 at 12:01 PM

If you can cite them, please do (especially the idea that use results in a 30% addiction rate). Research on cannabis has been limited due to federal restrictions. If you are going to cite the Colorado study on impaired driving, don’t waste your time. It has failed scientific research norms in a number of areas. No cannabis company is promoting weed as being good for you. If it provides some areas of relief that help you live more comfortably that is a positive, but it is not the same as being good for you.

elviss February 23, 2018 at 12:53 PM

The way things are going, expect the porn industry to relocate to Concord. Newsome and Brown welcomed them to San Francisco and now San Francisco has become too expensive. Moving to Concord would be a smart business decision. Right on their heels will be the heroin addicts.

The Planning Commissions in these small towns are groomed to be cooperative and ok anything that meets the objectives of city government as dictated by theories currently in vogue in urban planning. Clayton, Danville, Walnut Creek, and surrounding communities should be fighting Concord’s efforts to move ahead on marijuana stores, but I’m sure they are kaid back thinking, “Better them than us.” Unfortunately, they will be adversely effected whether they know it or not.

elviss February 23, 2018 at 12:29 PM

Virtually everyone I knew who used weed in the 1970s went on to experiment with cocaine. You cannot tell me that marijuana is not a gateway drug because I have seen with my own eyes what it does. People who use marijuana are irresponsible and will hurt those around them. But, don’t expect an apology. They won’t remember that they hurt you … they were stoned.

AlwaysBePositive February 23, 2018 at 2:22 PM

None of those people were using alcohol or nicotine? A gateway drug is how your brain processes it, not a specific drug.

KAD February 23, 2018 at 2:38 PM

My experience is completely different than yours, but mine was in the 60’s, not the 70’s. No one I knew smoking weed went on to other drugs.

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