Claycord – Talk About Local Politics

December 1, 2017 19:00 pm · 31 comments


This special post is “Talk About LOCAL Politics”.

Please use this post to talk about LOCAL politics, and keep state and national politics out of this thread.

Thank you, and be kind to each other.

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Too Little, Too Late December 1, 2017 at 7:23 PM

We need leadership with a smarter and larger view of the situation and it’s possible solutions. Our City is a bigger part of the connections in CoCo but the leaders in our City have not lived anywhere but in this City – where do they get their ideas about how to go forward? With such a narrow view of the world, they make decisions that impair rather than improve our living conditions. I propose that they get smarter or leave office to allow some innovation and a bigger picture for our future. Please take Lennar with you on your way out the door. . .

Edi Birsan December 2, 2017 at 8:30 AM

I have lived in Brooklyn and Queens NY, Antwerp Belgium, London, Wingrave and Hemel Hempstead in England, San Francisco, Martinez, Walnut Creek and now Concord. I have been to every continent except one *guess* and at one point half the countries of the world before the more recent events where people are going around making 4 or 10 countries that did not exist before.

so tell me again about living anywhere but Concord?

If you want to talk about things and share your greater view give me a call at
510-812 8180
come to my house at a reasonable time
950 Alla Ave.

By the way, who are you?

Anon December 3, 2017 at 10:14 AM

Concord clean up day was badly run. Nothing worse than loading up your car with junk, arriving an hour before closing, then being turned away. The City way underestimated the number of dumpsters needed. The logistics were awful; the wait at the Pavilion was an hour or more.

Original G December 3, 2017 at 11:05 AM

“Concord clean up day was badly run.”

Anyone even remotely surprised ?

All they had to do was ask the City of Oakland for some pointers on central point dumpster drop off. Have posted link below before, City of Concord must not read Claycord enough.
‘East Oakland Dump Sites Allow Residents to Legally Trash Bulk Items’

“The best minds are not in government.
If any were, business would steal them away.”
–Ronald Reagan

Years ago there were pick up days once or twice a year when neighbors would pile on the curb stuff for pickup and try to out do each other in getting rid of stuff. Wonder if that activity cut into garbage company profits too much.

MommaToTwo December 3, 2017 at 12:21 PM

Wished they do this more often. We have patio furniture with rips in the seat that we cannot repair. Did not realize it was only until noon. Hope they do it again !

Concord Mike December 3, 2017 at 12:57 PM

I was at the Newhall Park drop off at 8:15 AM. About 8 cars in line and no one directing traffic to make the drop offs efficient. Took about 20 minutes for a 2 minute drop off.

Great program concept but better organization needed.

Mary Fouts December 3, 2017 at 2:08 PM

RE: Extra Trash – PH (through Allied Waste) has a very good program for this. In addition to our regular weekly trash pick up, there is also 1 city-wide Spring Clean Up day (in June) for pick up of extra trash and bulky items at your residence during normal trash day; 2 years ago they even hauled away our old lawn mower. Also, each resident has up to 3 free on-call pickups per year for extra recycling and yard waste. Residents also get up to 2 free on-call pick ups of large/bulky items, including appliances, mattresses, tires, and furniture.

We get excellent service from Allied Waste in our weekly trash pickups. Drivers/workers are very courteous, and our recycling drivers always take extra recycling if we have any, when we meet the driver at pick up time.

Forsythe December 3, 2017 at 6:05 PM

Kudos to the City of Concord for at least trying to give citizens a way to dump excess garbage.

Since this was the first year, the glitches are not that surprising.

Hopefully next year will be smoother. Perhaps Concord could consider adopting the Pleasant Hill model?

Kentucky Derby December 3, 2017 at 6:27 PM

Sometimes you have to think outside of the box. If this was Concord’s first “Cleanup Concord” give it a chance. They had no idea how many people would show up – if any. Or way too many people. How would they know? It’s not like they going to call every citizen to see if they’re interested.

Also – if you don’t want to wait too long, never show up at the beginning or the end (of any event). It will always be your longest wait.

A friend of mine went (no idea which location) and he had no complaints at all. He obviously timed it well.

KAD December 3, 2017 at 7:22 PM

I loved the PH trash pickup of all items when I lived there. I wish we had that here in Concord. I have to pay a lot of money to have things taken to the dump and pay my garage company every month besides. Not right. I am too old to take things to a dumpster provided by the City/Trash company.

WC resident December 3, 2017 at 8:01 PM

Did the Concord cleanup people check ID or was the cleanup open to everyone? It seems like the event was unusually popular. For example this post at 9:07 AM has “I’ve been seeing dozens of pickup trucks heading down Newhall Parkway toward the park with their beds full of junk.”

The original notice on Claycord just has “Residents” but does not indicate if that meant only residents of Concord.

No Excuses December 3, 2017 at 10:28 PM

Stick a cork in it Mac. There’s NO such thing as a Government Freebie!!! Taxpayers pay dearly for the few and far-between “extra” services we may get.

I’m with you Kad. Drive thru many towns on garbage day. There is curbside pick up of everything from house-high piles of brush/tree trimmings to furniture and appliances.

Many seniors here are piling up around their houses because they can’t haul, and can’t afford to pay extra to hire a hauler..

Elvis December 3, 2017 at 11:28 PM

This is a great idea if it will keep people from dumping alongside the road the way they have been.

ON DA December 3, 2017 at 11:46 PM

@ #3 you can still apply for a voucher and they will come to you and pick up your dilemmas. Live and learn

Antler December 4, 2017 at 5:31 AM

We used the Denkinger service at about 11a, and there was a minimal wait.
However, we called in advance and learned they were not accepting large furniture or mattresses (understandable due to height lift into bins, etc.).

KAD makes an excellent point about the difficulties seniors have re arranging furniture pickup. Most of the free charity services specify “items must be curbside”, and there’s just no way we can do that! Our lawn maintenance people will haul to the dump for us, but naturally we must pay both for their time/work and for the dump fee.

The city where I grew up had a “curbside day” for each neighborhood: on the day before the regular garbage collection, you could put reusable items out on the curb so that any resident (not charities or resale companies) passing by could stop and take things they liked. The next day, the garbage company picked up whatever was left.

Mac December 4, 2017 at 9:07 AM

Stick a fork in it No Excuses.

I was just pointing out to the complainers that they can haul their own junk to the dump whenever they want, even on Sundays!

Bootstraps people!


Elvis December 8, 2017 at 9:54 AM

Maybe YOU can haul your stuff to the dump yourself.
Awareness of the lmitations of others, Mac.

anon December 5, 2017 at 10:32 AM

So who is the Mayor and Vice Mayor?

Concord Mike December 5, 2017 at 12:18 PM

@anon #18, we will find out tonight at the meeting.

In the normal course of things, Edi would move up to mayor and I am guessing Carlyn would be vice mayor?

Well Folks December 5, 2017 at 6:35 PM

Concord Mike – don’t bank on Edi becoming mayor…….as you know the “gang of 4” will just keep on rotating it among the “clique”. I really have my doubts about them doing anything “normal”
Concord is to big to keep up the Mickey Mouse practice of the council picking the mayor. Concord needs a directly elected mayor that the citizens elect. I currently live in a city of 57,000+ people and the council is divided by “wards” (districts) and there is a directly elected mayor. Concord has around 130,000 people so at the very least Concord should have a directly elected mayor

KAD December 5, 2017 at 8:16 PM

What is this about a lawsuit against the City of Concord and forcing then to draw districts???? If they do this they need to add 2 more City Council members.

Hope Johnson December 5, 2017 at 9:27 PM

There isn’t a lawsuit but a law firm in Malibu sent a letter to Concord and many other cities saying that at-large elections violate the CA Voting Rights Act if they impair the ability of a protected class to elect representatives. The firm mostly advocates on behalf of Latino communities. It has sued other cities that refused to switch to district elections and those cities lost.

KAD December 5, 2017 at 8:17 PM

I agree with Well Folks, we need to elect our Mayor.

KAD December 5, 2017 at 10:04 PM

Thank you Hope for the information.

Elvis December 6, 2017 at 2:14 PM

Concord needs a grownup way to elect a Mayor.

Concord Mike December 6, 2017 at 6:11 PM

I am totally against district elections if it is based on racial gerrymandering.

Districts should be based on natural neighborhood boundaries. Racial gerrymandering and race baiting is detestable and in-American.

Cellophane December 7, 2017 at 5:32 PM

I have always been opposed to the nomination of Mayors and Vice Mayors by their peers. It’s a situation ripe with conflict and favoritism. What is seen in Concord is exactly that.

The voters keep allowing their representatives to do what they want while giving up accountability.

Unaccountable politicians work only for themselves, exactly what we have now at all levels of government.

Will the CA voters ever wake up? I doubt it.

The people like to be ignorant of politics, government and numb to all that surrounds them. Only their own interests matter, just like the people they voted for.

Elvis December 8, 2017 at 9:20 AM

Oakland has become so inhospitable to sports organizatins, I think Concord could put in a bid for the A’s to build its stadium at CNWS. With its emphasis on family, it would seem a perfect match for the area and a successful addition to the ambiance Concord wishes to develop.

Elvis December 8, 2017 at 9:25 AM

With an elected Mayor, I agree, Council should represent distinct, historically established areas and neighborhoods, not racial groups. And, of course, term limits on Council members would be a given.

Hope Johnson December 8, 2017 at 4:36 PM

City Council Special Meeting re transportation at CNWS development
Sat, Dec 9, 9:30 AM
Concord Council Chamber, 1950 Parkside Drive

Information affecting transit and traffic re CNWS development. Share your ideas and concerns with Council at the workshop or by email at . The traffic and transit plan can make or break quality of life for our neighborhoods.

Study Session – providing an overview of Area Plan transportation initiatives, circulation design, and complete streets standards, and an overview of developer’s transportation diagrams and initial transportation model. Report by Joan Ryan, Community Reuse Area Planner.
Link to agenda:
Link to transit supporting docs:

Elvis December 8, 2017 at 6:27 PM

Naturally, inviting the A’s would require that the remainder of the property be open space.

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