Ridiculous – Lawmakers Look to Increase Bay Area Bridge Tolls by $3, More in Future (VIDEO)

July 16, 2017 12:10 pm · 98 comments

Get ready, it looks like it’ll soon cost $8 to cross the Benicia Bridge, and $9 to cross the Bay Bridge if lawmakers get their way.

Phil Matier and state senator Jerry Hill (D-San Mateo) discuss a proposal to raise bridge tolls in the Bay Area by $3 to fund various infrastructure projects.

Watch the discussion on BayAreaNewsTalk.com.

1 Coach Stan July 16, 2017 at 12:17 PM

People are going to complain; I understand that. But compared to NYC, we have it good. There, bridge tolls are like $15. So $8 or $9 is not that high, especially since everyone has such high incomes in the Bay Area.

#keepthingsinperspective

2 Captain Bebops July 16, 2017 at 12:26 PM

That should help destroy the area economy. I remember a few years ago I ordered a book out of a store in Benicia. I could have have driven over to pick it up, shopped around and maybe had lunch there. But the bridge toll was more than the shipping. We have short sighted goons looking for quick answers to solve their funding shortfalls. They never seemed to have learned that economies have their ups and downs in history and to target the mid level not the the top.

3 Anon July 16, 2017 at 12:34 PM

And this is right behind the legislature raising gas taxes by 12 cents/gallon for “infrastructure improvements.”

Nothing but a bunch of thieves in the CA legislature, all elected and reelected by low information voters that can’t think for themselves.

No wonder people are moving out of state and taking their money with them .

4 TT July 16, 2017 at 12:38 PM

These are the people that “care about us” and keep getting reelected by those who don’t care to understand anything other than social politics.

5 Geares Lawmakers, July 16, 2017 at 12:42 PM

Stop being so money hungry. Leave your wallets alone and get creative.
No more votes for you!

6 Law abiding citizen July 16, 2017 at 12:44 PM

Demorats go figure, yall voted them in

7 Jodi July 16, 2017 at 12:52 PM

Coach Stan, The cost of living in in the bay area is so high that many people who have to cross those Bruges to get to work live where they do because they can’t afford to live where they work. Adding $3/day to their expenses is more impactful that you realize.

8 Jo Ann Jo Ann July 16, 2017 at 12:53 PM

It will make it difficult to take trips with my trailer, as it cost $20.00 now to pull it with a pick-up truck. Since to go to the mountains I have to cross bridges, I might think about moving out of California, which has been my home all my life. To bad most laws we pass to help fix roads & other things has made it worst for taxpayers. We are being hit with RR Bond, gas tax and now bridge toll increase. I am tired of being a money pit by the State
..

9 Bacon July 16, 2017 at 12:54 PM

Not only the gas tax is going up but car registrations too. $100 for most cars. on the road today.

No matter what Moonbeam says, these new taxes will go to pay for a lot of things besides roads. They’ll need more taxes for road repairs.

And did people know that the new gas tax is based on the cost of living? So gas taxes can go up based on what Sacramento decides is needed with no vote or approval from tax payers or legislators.

10 bob July 16, 2017 at 12:58 PM

yep, this is what you get when you vote democrats into office. you all get what you deserve.

11 Dr. Jellyfinger July 16, 2017 at 12:59 PM

Go ahead! ..Fleece the sheep!
They were stupid enough to vote in the tax & spend Democrats.

12 Jimmy McLaughlin July 16, 2017 at 1:02 PM

You people(Democrats) keep voting these idiots into office. When will you wake up and realize California Democrats DONT CARE ABOUT YOU! They only want these taxes to fund their special interests! Remember we as Californians already voted for the previous tax increase to fix our roads and where I live inRio Vista, Hwy 12 is destroyed by the trucks that come thru from the Pirt of Stockton. Wake up and vote these self serving politicians out of office!

13 It makes sense to me July 16, 2017 at 1:03 PM

It’s only going to get worst under a Democratic leadership.

14 TheBand July 16, 2017 at 1:07 PM

Bridge tolls also support the BART system with all its ills.

15 I Don't Get It July 16, 2017 at 1:10 PM

How does anybody in their right mind vote Democrat?

16 Silva July 16, 2017 at 1:13 PM

Wow!

17 Clayton Squirrel July 16, 2017 at 1:15 PM

A bit of a biased headline but I can’t say that I disagree.

As it is now, I usually skip the Dumbarton Bridge when driving to Palo Alto. Down and around is cheaper and takes about the same amount of time. We usually take the bridge home as it is the free direction (eastbound).

Uggh, BART fees and bridge tolls really add up if you are going to work in SF. I hope that Concord and the surrounding cities step it up and lure in some good employers with good jobs. The cost of living and of doing business is sure cheaper over here.

18 pac islander July 16, 2017 at 1:30 PM

Got to buy votes from those who don’t some how… Remember, all you tax payers are freeloaders. Just ask Moon beam and newsom…

19 Anonymous July 16, 2017 at 1:40 PM

Inevitable with one party State.

20 Waffles July 16, 2017 at 1:50 PM

What a joke. The gas tax and measure RR weren’t enough? Glad Coach Stan is standing up for this bologna again.

21 Sick of it July 16, 2017 at 1:56 PM

We needs to vote these Axx’s out of office. It doesn’t affect them at all since it is our tax money they use when they have to pay to cross them. If they had to pay as we do for all there hikes in taxes and not be funded by all of us then it would be a different story. The democrats are destroying California. We need rid of all of them before it to late. Remember they are spender no millions of our money to defend illegal aliens ( not immigrants as they like to call them to confuse).

22 Dave Y July 16, 2017 at 2:01 PM

Remember the good old days when freeways were free to build and maintain.
Bridges just sprung up out of the mud and painted themselves???

Me either.

Pay to play folks!

23 Waffleman July 16, 2017 at 2:08 PM

That’s some b.s.
Senators are pocketing the money
& want hard workin people to pay for that
Get Jerry Brown & Pelosi out
How you gunna make a bill & telling everyone to sign it and not let you see it until after the bill passed. What kind of s**t is that. They aren’t for the people
They for them d(*(* self.

24 Mike July 16, 2017 at 2:09 PM

Five years ago the Benicia was $3 for cars & $5 for vehicles towing a 2 axle trailer (camper, boat, or car trailer).

The toll increased to $5/$8 respectively.
A year later: $5/$12
The next year: $5/$20

Needless to say I started taking Highway 4 to I5 from Concord.

25 Noj July 16, 2017 at 2:10 PM

You keep voting for Democrats and look where you are:

Higher bridge tolls, higher water prices, higher vehicle registration taxes, BART fare increases, higher housing costs, etc, etc.

There is a mass exodus fleeing from California.

You’re about to see the end result of your votes. Ain’t gonna be pretty.

26 Ricardoh July 16, 2017 at 2:16 PM

# 1 With attitudes like yours it won’t take cal trans long to raise the toll to $15.If we don’t start fighting these agency of the California government they will nickel and dime you to submission.

27 Pffft... July 16, 2017 at 2:21 PM

It is no wonder that many can’t make it in CA/ Bay Area. Ridiculous prices on homes and rentals. 100k income now considered “low Income” in some areas. Between the Gas tax and car registration fee increase, BART parking and fares increasing it’s no wonder.

Now this possible toll increase for bridges? It will probably pass because many of the voters don’t cross these bridges regularly so in their mind it won’t affect them.

28 Bob July 16, 2017 at 2:25 PM

California voters love taxes and fees….what’s the big deal ?

29 Jon July 16, 2017 at 2:37 PM

Stop raising bridge tolls. It already costs me $42 per day for toll and parking, plus about $10 a day in fuel just to get to work. $100,000 per year is just above the poverty line in the Bay Area. And we just got hammered with another fuel tax that is supposed to pay for roads. How about we stop charging bridge toll and start taxing the businesses that have to import employees from across the bay?

30 dltravers July 16, 2017 at 2:46 PM

Imagine if you live in Solano county and work in the city. They bear an unfair burden compared to other counties. It is a massively unfair tax.

They have no BART to get to the city either. Of course, Neither do others in east county who have been paying BART taxes for many decades while the South bay gets BART when the are the newcomers to paying taxes for the system.

31 Always Right July 16, 2017 at 3:03 PM

Maybe someday the zombie democrat voters will wake from their sleep and the proverbial frog will jump out of the pot.

I think we may be getting close to that point, as bridge tolls, gas taxes, sales taxes, property taxes all rocket up while roads and services deteriorate.

State government revenues are at an all time high in the Trump economy, yet they want more. Always.

32 PO'd July 16, 2017 at 3:04 PM

Once they (you know who) get it to $10, look out. Just for a ride on a rusting bridge.
Pretty balsy move to ask for more just after gas taxes were upped to pay for what? Roads.

33 TraumaRX July 16, 2017 at 3:37 PM

If you can’t afford it than don’t drive. Less people on the roads would be great.

34 Randy July 16, 2017 at 3:37 PM

Governor Jerry Brown manage to rein in spending, raise taxes on the wealthy, and plug California’s $27 billion deficit after taking over from a spineless republican governor.

35 KJ July 16, 2017 at 3:51 PM

That video and the comments above reminded me of how difficult it is to govern — a lot of people want “something” for nothing, other lots of people don’t want the “something” at all, and still more others want “something” entirely different.

36 NewWorld July 16, 2017 at 3:52 PM

If this goes thru there will he mud on my plates thus never paying tolls again..

37 Former Californian July 16, 2017 at 4:16 PM

We left CA a year ago as we were sick and tired of the politicians viewing our middle-class wallets as their money tree. We spent our entire lives in CA but have not missed it one day. We moved to a state with no state tax and we smile every time we see Moonbeam and his cronies come up with the latest scheme to remove money from the tax-paying CA citizens. CA will never see another penny of our hard earned money.

38 Kelly anne July 16, 2017 at 4:18 PM

Take take take. I’m outta here.

39 Ven Xeter July 16, 2017 at 4:39 PM

Whether it is the gas tax increase, bond measures for BART, vehicle registration increase, or this increase in bridge tolls, only a fool would believe any of our infrastructure will get better. A huge percentage of these billions for “infrastructure improvement” go to 6 figure public employee pensions and sweetheart deals with relatives and associates of democrat politicians, while the taxpayer is too busy to complain while stuck in a daily 4 hour commute. Keep voting straight party line “D” and you will get exactly what you deserve.

40 The BART Experience July 16, 2017 at 4:50 PM

Tapped out. Water, PGandE, garbage and higher property taxes and food costs. Don’t know how people are making it, particularly those with kids.

41 George July 16, 2017 at 4:52 PM

We currently pay a 56 cent per gallon gas tax (state and federal) at the pumps for road repairs. That’s about $10.00 each time we fill up with gas. Then state legislature recently passed a bill that would raise $52 billion from new taxes and fees to repair roads and bridges. Then if you add in the toll roads they have planned, the increased car registration fees, the RR property tax bond and all the local city sales tax propositions such as K and others that would help our roads. NOW they want more money by trying to add an additional $3 fee to toll bridges. When is it going to STOP?

42 Tom May July 16, 2017 at 4:53 PM

Hey Coach Stan, if you don’t mind and have such a large income, fell free to pay for me ! People like you are part of the problem!

43 House July 16, 2017 at 4:57 PM

Bridge tolls are suppose to be dismantled and taken down off each road and ridge after the cost to build it is made up via tolls….
We paid off that bridge decades ago..
It’s a scam, it’s theft, it’s a tax………

Stop allowing this theft to occur

44 House July 16, 2017 at 5:00 PM

@ Dave

We all already do “pay to play” on our roads…. it’s called taxes- we all pay them- well us legal citizens do…

45 House July 16, 2017 at 5:03 PM

@ coach Stan
Will you say that when NYC toll roads get to $30 per trip, and California movies up to $20? Will you “keep things is perspective” then?

With your logic, so long as we’re lower than NYC’s tax rate on bridges and certain rodes, it’s fair….(?)
Wow
Typical liberal logic. 9″or lackthereof

46 Anonymous Claycordian July 16, 2017 at 5:40 PM

It’s nice to see how these “great Democratic politicians are helping and supporting the needs of Californians”.

First, a great County Connection bus system that totally did not have twice as many bus lines 10 years ago (Remember that? Those were good times with County Connection.)

Second, high taxes and bills and whatever

Third, …. I could go on forever

Now “goody two shoes” is helping the environment by decreasing pollution on cars and increasing the toll on Bay Area bridges. Good move for you considering how well you respect the community and whatever. Thank you Mr. Liberal Politician, nice meeting you!

47 NunYa July 16, 2017 at 5:45 PM

This is what happens when people blindly vote Democrat. We did it to ourselves, those that did, and now it is time to end the super(insane)majority in this state.

For The Love Of God (and country), Please Think About This Before You Vote.

P.S. Some folks have talked about how much money we all make in the bay area, so let me just say I’d like to work where they do because I don’t make enough to pay $8 or more to cross the bridges.

48 Cautiously Informed July 16, 2017 at 5:55 PM

When are honest hard working law abiding tax paying citizens going to start standing up to these parasitic state government officials? Come on people! The state demorats don’t care about you. They consider the law abiding responsible working class only as a revenue source. They care only for illegal aliens, welfare deadbeats and criminals. Do you like to give away the money worked for? When are you going to stand up and say enough is enough?

49 Roger July 16, 2017 at 6:11 PM

All you stupid liberals that continue to elect these people. Gas tax, bridge fares. Did you hear that Californias elected officials are leaving the federal green initiative and writing their own green energy plan? All new houses will require solar and any houses “For Sale” will be rwquired to have it
Prior to the sale. Anyone got $30,000 laying around for this Democratic mandate?

50 WC July 16, 2017 at 6:33 PM

I hope they keep taxing the snot out of everyone. Perhaps if they get into enough bank accounts people will finally vote these blood-sucking leaches out of office.

51 Charlie the tuna July 16, 2017 at 6:45 PM

there sure a lot of houses for sale in my neighborhood. ummmm. getting out while the gettins good !

52 Bk July 16, 2017 at 6:47 PM

Need to start saying “crossing a bridge is a human right” then the progressives will understand.

53 Ron Jones July 16, 2017 at 6:52 PM

Anybody been to the East coast lately. Even with this hike, we are still way below the average toll in New York and surrounding areas. This is just not that excessive.

54 Craig Cannon July 16, 2017 at 7:07 PM

Vote. These folks need to pick on someone their own size. Little. Taxpayers are burdened enough in our great state

55 Shoulda Coulda July 16, 2017 at 7:14 PM

I’d like to see the CHP set up checkpoints near
the bridges to catch the freeloaders that drive
with paper plates to avoid paying tolls. They
roll through the Fastpass lanes daily without
paying a dime. I’ve even heard of people who
will put on new paper plates when the old ones
get faded. Was told of a guy who crossed the
Benicia bridge daily to go to work for almost
three years and never paid a toll. Please CHP
catch these scammers and make them pay
their fair share plus a big fine.

56 Captain Bebops July 16, 2017 at 7:20 PM

Perhaps a march needs to be organized on Sacramento. Pitchforks and torches might help to drive the message home. Whadya think?

57 RANDOM TASK July 16, 2017 at 7:27 PM

WELL WELL so the govorner takes millions from middle class schools to fund illegals and oh what a toll hike ..a gas tax …oh and your water bill also went up 10% this month and will again next year ….oh yeah the governor is really securing this state to be broken and over run …..what was it someone local was saying ….this state is the best run state and is a poster child for all dem states to follow …that our economy is better then some small countries ….well ill tell you what DEMIFORNIA it is more corrupt than most large countries …more mismanaged then most countries ….most dictated ….most arrogant and entitled …..after 50 years of dem tieranny this is where we are ….schools garbage …roads garbage …finances garbage ….flooded with illegals who are supported by our tax ..fee…measure dollars …every politician foaming at the mouth to give them id’s so they can be bullied into voting dem or lose all the freebees …..well done lemmings you have endemnified us to support a whole other country on our tax money ….so much for citizens living the American dream ….enjoy more taxes fees and measures …..the are coming how do you expect millions of illegals to be supported to vote for one party

58 Safety Second July 16, 2017 at 7:31 PM

This movement by all of our elected jurisdictions to raise taxes/fees is a desperate attempt to mitigate the inevitable train wreck of unsustainable public sector pensions. This ponzy scheme led by union whores, i.e. career politicians like Mark DeSaulneir, cannot mathematically survive. Democrats own this train wreck, but then what would you expect… Liberalism truly is a mental disorder.

59 Pac islander July 16, 2017 at 7:32 PM

Taxes are racist. They disproportionately effect one race over all others…

60 Strad July 16, 2017 at 7:36 PM

It’s not over yet, road taxes for EVs also a tax on miles driven per vehicle.

61 Trucker bug July 16, 2017 at 7:47 PM

If you watch the video the politician keeps saying that every county gets something but never specified what. He says San Jose gets Bart. Woopie!! Is what Dan Jose wants is bart? They assume that bart will allieviate the traffic congestion however all they keep building are multi level apartment super complexes. There is no alleviating this population when you keep building massive home complexes on small land footprints.

No one gets anything from this. The bridges will still be a logistical traffic nightmare. Bart is still a disaster. It’s a private owned entity but subsidizsed like no other. Wow. This measure will add 300 new Bart trains. But wait, why are we vying Bart new trains??

It’s so screwed up that it’s too late. They keep tying to throw money at a problem but it will never work. They’ll continue to tax and tax and tax and even the politician agreed that there’s no end to this.

Watch the video. It’s crazy. Does. I one see what’s going on or is everyone a mental zombie with a limitless pocketbook to help pay for the mis management if California??

62 Bk July 16, 2017 at 7:49 PM

Hey Ron, always love when government defenders cherry pick their comparisons. While NY may have higher bridge tolls they also have a subway system and regional trains much cheaper than BART they also have slightly lower sales tax rates and much lower personal income tax rates than the people’s republic of California and of course you are comparing one progressives wet dream to another. How much are the bridges in Florida? What’s their income tax rate their as well?

63 frustrated July 16, 2017 at 8:34 PM

It would be good to have tax write off for people who must cross the bridge for work

64 FCA July 16, 2017 at 8:44 PM

Just one more reason to get the hell out of Communist California!!!

65 Rob U July 16, 2017 at 8:51 PM

I agree, the Democrats say they’re for the people, but not you and me…but they’re really there for their own special interests groups and hippie hippie era social agenda. I bet this money never makes it to the bridges or roads, but will be diverted to social programs. Wake up people!

66 Mel July 16, 2017 at 9:02 PM

I continue to disagree with everything that Stan has ever posted.

67 Mister Wister July 16, 2017 at 9:40 PM

If you don’t like it don’t vote for it. Vote “no”.

68 newsome effect July 16, 2017 at 9:42 PM

This state is run by democrats and no one should be surprised when they want more of YOU money.

There are only three things they care about being elected, getting campaign contributions and passing out your taxpayer dollars to those who give them campaign contributions.

69 ConPro July 16, 2017 at 9:52 PM

What they are essentially doing is saying that only the wealthy deserve to drive. Only the wealthy will be able to afford to pay for gas. Only the wealthy will be able to afford to go over bridges. And only the wealthy will be able to avoid traffic by paying to go through toll lanes. Because after all, the time of the wealthy is more important then the time of the not so wealthy. I live in Concord because it was as close to San Francisco, where I work, as I could afford to buy. That doesn’t mean I want to spend a huge chunk of my income for the pleasure of getting to work. No one has been able to give an accounting of where the money has been going for all these years for BART and road/freeway/bridge infrastructure upgrades and repairs. It takes me over an hour and 45 minutes most days to get home from work. Just looking at the traffic that I’m commuting with is hundreds of thousands of dollars in bridge tolls. Where.is.it.going????

70 Bill July 16, 2017 at 11:03 PM

F.U. Jerry Hill. Raise the bridge toll to $8 and I will move out of state. Bridge tolls should be used to pay for the bridge, nothing else. Not for BART, bike lanes, buses or anything else. It is time to turn in my Fastrak transponder, as the Democrats think this is an easy way to raise money for other projects. Why should these projects be funded by the few that have to cross a toll bridge? If you want to raise money for your pet projects, put a toll booth on Highway 1, 4, 280, 580, 680, 780, 880, 980,and every other roadway and stop trying to finance your pet projects on the backs of those of us who have to cross a bridge during our commute.

71 Be gentle July 16, 2017 at 11:40 PM

Good for me! I don’t have to pay a thing! Because I have developed a fear of crossing bridges so I don’t drive over them anymore which makes it kind of difficult if you have to get from A to B I just have to go around! That seems awfully high to cross the bridge! I’d hate to have to commute, One would be spending a lot of their salary just getting to work! It’s about $200 a month if you have to drive across the bay bridge with the kind of tolls are thinking about charging people that doesn’t even count your gas or maintenance! If you have to take BART, I think the park every day it’s like five dollars! Somethings wrong with this picture!

72 biggus thinkus July 16, 2017 at 11:57 PM

(i have declined to read any former statements)
i want to barf. it is at the point where i am being forced to move out of the bay area. i feel like an economic environmental disaster victim. like my life was flushed by a tornado or hurricane.
i want to barf.

73 ML July 17, 2017 at 4:49 AM

I don’t mind paying taxes and tolls to build, repair and maintain infrastructure. I get furious when I’ve been paying those taxes and tolls for decades with the proceeds being used for purposes other than what they were originally, allegedly, created for, then being asked for more money to repair and maintain what I’ve already paid for. That’s what I see happening with this new proposal and the new 12 cent gas tax and registration fee increase. Please just fix the dern roads for once.

74 Chicken Little July 17, 2017 at 4:52 AM

For all of you who keep saying we don’t need federal money because we’re the sixth largest economy in the world and we’d rather protect our illegal immigrants, get ready for a whole lot more of this stuff. This is just the beginning.

75 94521 July 17, 2017 at 6:48 AM

3 People in my Group at work have quit there Jobs and moved out of state this year.

I’m about ready to join them….

76 Randy July 17, 2017 at 7:36 AM

@76. And there was no one to replace them? You don’t have a problem until you can’t find replacements

77 WhatsNew July 17, 2017 at 8:27 AM

No big surprise here. I understand, we all understand costs increase. What I don’t understand is why aren’t we all demanding an AUDIT before there is any increase to ANY purposed tax or bridge fair hikes? Lets see where all the money is going now. Makes complete sense to me. But the sheeple of this once great state just keep taking it. Sooner or later people will start to figure out the middle is not welcome here anymore…. All the political/elite class want’s is high wage elites, and the low income class to serve them.. This didn’t just happen yesterday, It’s been going on for a while now.

78 What?? July 17, 2017 at 8:40 AM

When the tax-paying, working, fed-up people move out of State, who will pay for all the freebies for the millions of illegals that get everything handed to them, even though they have not paid into the system? I am confused as to what is legal and what is illegal. Breaking our laws have no consequences. Crazy.

79 Same July 17, 2017 at 9:05 AM

At $8 a toll an average commuter crossing the bridge 20 times a month will spend almost $2K a year on bridge tolls! Hah. Ridiculous. They should raise them all to $25 and maybe it will help cut down on traffic and bring home prices down in the east bay.

80 Dalinian July 17, 2017 at 9:06 AM

I love how we call thieves “Lawmakers” now…..Seems appropriate…

81 Original G July 17, 2017 at 9:28 AM

“You don’t have a problem until you can’t find replacements”

When crafts persons who have a portable craft quit and get a job out of state and the business can’t find replacements goes out of business,
only then it becomes a problem?

Let us hope for society’s future you are sterile.

82 Silva July 17, 2017 at 9:28 AM

They do want us out of our cars, but with little alternative.

83 fred July 17, 2017 at 9:39 AM

#39 I too remember when the Bay Bridge was a quarter and I remember when the state said when the Bay Bridge was paid off it would be free. Where did that idea go?

84 Me July 17, 2017 at 9:59 AM

The tolls were raised before to pay for “various infrastructure projects.” Once the fees go up they don’t come down. Tax dollars are like heroin to politicians.

85 Willis July 17, 2017 at 10:10 AM

Californians are way over taxed, and in return get a failed infrastructure, filth, potholes, crime and a huge illegal immigration problem, many on welfare and/or who work off the books via bartering or cash. These issues are the common theme in Democrat ran areas.

86 Original G July 17, 2017 at 10:32 AM

Business unlike government must live within a budget,
a concept liberals have great difficulty grasping.
Business is willing to pay up to hire those with special skills needed to continue business. But that eventually diminishes revenues to a point operation is no longer feasible. At which time business has choices
move part or all of it’s activity out of state or in case of smaller businesses simply cease operations.

Why did Apple build in Texas and build Project Johnathan in Nevada instead of CA?
Apple builds in Texas, not California
Apple to build $304 million campus in Texas, add 3,600 jobs
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-apple-texas-idUSBRE82812J20120309

“Confirmed: Apple Building New Data Center in Reno, Nevada
An estimated $1 billion to be generated for Nevada economy, Apple said”
http://news.softpedia.com/news/Apple-Building-New-Data-Center-in-Reno-Nevada-277781.shtml

How many businesses moved out of or expanded operations out of CA between 2008 – 2015?

From “California Business Departures: An Eight Year Review 2008 – 2015”
A 429 page report. http://www.spectrumlocationsolutions.com/pdf/Businesses-Leave-California-.pdf

Disinvestment Events and Ranking by California County 2008 – 2015.
Los Angeles 347, Orange 249, Santa Clara 247, San Francisco 115,
Contra Costa 28. Disinvestment event a business leaving or expanding outside of CA.

Moving three call centers out of CA.
“Comcast arrived at this decision after thoughtfully and methodically studying the market and our potential options. We determined that the high cost of doing business in California makes it difficult to run cost-effective call centers in Northern California, …”
http://sacramento.cbslocal.com/2012/09/25/comcast-to-close-3-california-call-centers-shift-1000-jobs-out-of-state/

If further examples are needed, merely ask, have over 100 more bookmarked.

87 Randy July 17, 2017 at 11:05 AM

@fred. No I want them to be happy.

Why live here if you’re miserable. Find a place you like and enjoy your life.

I’m good with CA

88 RincePriebus July 17, 2017 at 11:49 AM

It’s not ‘ridiculous’ if we need the infrastructure. We need it badly.

89 Great Gonzo July 17, 2017 at 12:01 PM

Fine. Good. No problem.

KEEP raising the tolls, taxes, fees and every other government cost.

Now that I have converted all my real property and liquefied just about everything else I will feel even MORE justified about leaving this cess pit of a state early next year. Having wasted years trying to LEGALLY defeat the forces of socialist/liberal evil to no avail I am OUT OF HERE!

90 Voter94521 July 17, 2017 at 12:22 PM

This is obviously what the majority of Californians want because they keep voting in people who see taxation & fees as the solutions to problems. Until you elect lawmakers who want smaller, leaner government, this is what you will continue facing. Either vote differently or live with the consequences of rising taxes.

91 Original G July 17, 2017 at 1:13 PM

Post on Home Depot got me thinking, party that has run CA for most of last 40 years can’t even build half a bridge on time and on budget. Private enterprise is far outpacing California’s high speed rail project which is seven years behind schedule and is looking at almost a 50% cost overrun on first 118 mile section of track. Meanwhile Hyperloop will travel from Los Angeles and San Francisco in 35 minutes, faster than a passenger jet.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-3676845/Is-Hyperloop-coming-Europe-Super-fast-transport-cut-310-mile-trip-Helsinki-Stockholm-28-minutes.html

Most people pride themselves on getting best price on a new roof, a car, a vacation etc. With that in mind why doesn’t that same effort and mindset follow thru when electing politicians????

92 Sick to of it July 17, 2017 at 1:22 PM

What really sucks is how much money they piss away and then scream to get more. Remember the original proposed cost of the bay bridge. Around 1 billion dollars. Well there mismanagement of that has it at a cost of 6.5 billion dollars and a much more expensive bridge to maintain. This is just one example of wasted money through poor management. Our tax dollars.

93 nytemuvr July 17, 2017 at 1:33 PM

@Randy #92
You sound like a happy camper sucking off the government teat.

94 Kim July 17, 2017 at 1:58 PM

Who gets a “cost of living” raise?
Oh yeah those lovely BART station agents making six figures.

95 Irish Hooligan July 17, 2017 at 4:06 PM

Through our fault, through our fault, through our most grievous fault…

This is our penance for the wealthy, liberal sections of CA voting these people into office. Super-majority for a money hungry party? With a track record of routinely diverting the transportation taxes/tolls we already pay?

If democrats really cared about the less fortunate they would consider how higher gas taxes and bridge toll increases effect the poor souls that commute…so they can work for a living and pay taxes to be wasted by the idiots who run this state. People don’t live in Oakley and Brentwood because they like the scenery. This is where you live when housing prices are insane and you make a moderate salary and these are the people with the longest drives.

Wake up, voters! This ain’t getting better until we have some new, fiscally conservative leaders in the state.

96 hell no July 17, 2017 at 4:13 PM

@RincePriebus – You’re an idiot! When is enough enough? Imagine running your personal finances like this Gov.

But since you’re so generous I need more money for badly needed infrastructure at my house. It’s not ridiculous because I need it badly…

97 Ridiculous July 18, 2017 at 2:27 PM

Not like the money is actually gonna get used to fix the roads. It would be one thing if it were actually gonna be used to fix tjings, but our roads jere are terrible. The money is just gonna go into the pockets of the higher up, while we all suffer.

98 RincePriebus July 18, 2017 at 4:03 PM

#96 and #97, how about we go back to the horse and buggy, and let the roads return to dirt and gravel? That would cost a lot less too.

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