Claycord – Talk About Politics

May 19, 2017 19:10 pm · 129 comments


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1 Shut The Trump Door May 19, 2017 at 7:11 PM

The Border Wall is going to be so big Sarah Palin is going to be able to see it from Alaska.

2 Local May 19, 2017 at 7:12 PM

Today we found out that the president was in this meeting with russians which the US media were barred from, that russian state media are in, Kisliak’s presence is hidden from us in the official read-out, we only learn of this through the russian state-media, and in that meeting he’s telling them he fired the guy who’s investigating them.

Of course he also revealed top secret intel to the russians in that meeting. Obstruction of justice is only outdone by treason.

Trump Told Russians That Firing ‘Nut Job’ Comey Eased Pressure From Investigation

Trump’s comments to Russians about Comey ‘is compelling evidence of corrupt intent’

3 Local May 19, 2017 at 7:12 PM
4 Local May 19, 2017 at 7:13 PM

Earlier this week:

The Post’s reported that Trump shared highly classified intelligence with Russian officials, jeopardizing the cooperation of allies.

The Times’s reported this week that Trump asked FBI Director James B. Comey to shut down the FBI’s Flynn investigation, according to a contemporaneous memo Comey wrote before Trump fired him.

On one day this week, the United States awoke to a report from Reuters that the Trump campaign had at least 18 undisclosed contacts with Russians; a McClatchy report that Flynn, who had been paid as a Turkish representative, stopped a military plan that Turkey opposed; a Times report that the Trump team knew Flynn was under investigation before he started work at the White House; and a Post report that the House majority leader told colleagues last year that he thought Russian President Vladimir Putin was paying Trump.

5 Local May 19, 2017 at 7:15 PM
6 Hareem May 19, 2017 at 7:19 PM


7 anon May 19, 2017 at 8:20 PM

Liberals are intellectual simpletons who operate in such a mental vacuum that they have convinced themselves, “The Rusdians are coming! The Russians are coming!” Just like they convinced themselves Hillary would be President. Ignore them and maybe they will go away.

8 Dr. Jellyfinger May 19, 2017 at 8:30 PM

Geez! I’ve been hearing and seeing so many terrible comments about that Roger Ailes guy who just died… I gotta admit I really didn’t know anything about him but it sounds like he musta been worse than Hitler.
I did hear the old guy made a pass at one of those temptresses at FOX News, but I can’t really say much about that ….being a flagrant womanizer myself (hey! all they gotta do is say “No”)…. but I digress.
Anyway I was about to note that alot of people were making awful comments about a guy who just died (and they call us deplorable!) but I thought maybe the dead dude deserves all this spit & vinegar… so can anybody tell me what he did that was so bad?

9 Local May 19, 2017 at 8:39 PM

If you’ve seen multiple reports about the murdered DNC staffer being the WikiLeaks leak, then you watch conveyors of Russian propaganda. Stop watching Fox news and stop listening to am radio. They are lying to you.

Russian government promoted conspiracy surrounding murdered DNC staffer

10 Dr. Jellyfinger May 19, 2017 at 8:44 PM

@ 6 ~ That’s not fair! Obama had 8 years to rack up all those scandals! Trump has only had 4 months…. give him time to catch up.

11 anon May 19, 2017 at 9:54 PM

Feinstein Says There’s Still No Evidence Of Trump Campaign Collusion With Russia

Diane Feinstein, a member of the Senate Intelligence Committee says there is no evidence of collusion between the 2016 Trump campaign group and the Russians. Speaking with Wolf Blitzer on his CNN “Situation Room,” Feinstein was pressed by Blitzer regarding a previous statement, “So far, you’ve not seen any evidence of collusion. Is that right?” Feinstein replied, “Well, evidence that would establish that there’s collusion.” She then cited “rumors” and “newspaper stories” which were suggesting it.

12 anon May 19, 2017 at 10:00 PM

Jie Biden Slams Hillary Clinton

Joe Biden didn’t think Hillary was Presidential material. “I never thought she was a great candidate. I thought I was a great candidate,”

13 Local May 19, 2017 at 10:04 PM

2 days ago, anon didn’t know that Flynn had registered as a foreign agent (factual, well-known, old news) and yet anon is calling others simpletons.

Jelly, fox news under ailes committed multiple crimes beyond sexual assault, including illegal payoffs and spying on its employees. You don’t have to believe me, here are the top three google articles:

Federal probe of Fox News expands

US attorney conducting criminal investigation into Fox News

Federal Inquiry of Fox News Moves to a Grand Jury, but Without Preet Bharara

And today:
Roger Ailes: The Man Who Wrecked Conservatism

Anon, 4 posts doesn’t even cover the foreign Turkish thugs that Trump invited, who beat up Americans on our soil,
Nor how Trump wants to sabotage the ACA at our expense,

14 anon May 19, 2017 at 10:05 PM

Liberals were running a candidate for President who openly declared he was a Socialist. Obviously, they think there is some huge philosophical abyss between socialism and communism.

15 Dr. Jellyfinger May 19, 2017 at 10:12 PM

Julian Assange as much as admitted that Seth Rich was the source for exposing the Podesta e-mails. Not much reason to keep it a secret since Seth was murdered… and since Assange has offered a $20,000 reward for info to find his killer… but you can believe what you want… if you’re a clueless idiot.

16 anon May 19, 2017 at 10:19 PM

Harvard Study Reveals Extent Of Anti-Trump Medua Bias

Coverage from 10 major TV and print outlets during Trump’s first 100 days in office are analyzed in a new study from the Shorenstein Center on Media, Politics, and Public Policy at Harvard University. Data obtained indicated those media reports demonstrated a negative bias in 98% of the cases.

Among the media outlets studied were CNN, NBC, CBS, Fox News, the New York Times, the Washington Post and the Wall Street Journal.

17 Elwood May 19, 2017 at 10:24 PM

@ Local (way too many posts)

Did you ever think about getting a life?

What will you do if your mother throws you out of her basement?

18 anon May 19, 2017 at 10:26 PM

@14 Local

“registered as a foreign agent” according to who? Those same simpletons I mentioned earlier.

All news agencies spy on everyone, Local. Get a clue!

19 Local May 19, 2017 at 10:26 PM

According to tЯump/Яussia fanatics, these are all just coincidences:

the Flynn thing and the Manafort thing and
the Tillerson thing and
the Sessions thing and
the Kushner thing and
the Carter Page thing and
the Roger Stone thing and
the Felix Sater thing and
the Boris Ephsteyn thing and
the Rosneft thing and
the Gazprom thing and
the Sergey Gorkov banker thing and
the Azerbajain thing and
the “I love Putin” thing and
the Donald Trump, Jr. thing and
the Sergey Kislyak thing and
the Russian Affiliated Interests thing and
the Russian Business Interests thing and
the Emoluments Clause thing and
the Alex Schnaider thing and
the hack of the DNC thing and
the Guccifer 2.0 thing and
the Mike Pence “I don’t know anything” thing and
the Russians mysteriously dying thing and
the Trump’s public request to Russia to hack Hillary’s email thing and
the Trump house sale for $100 million at the bottom of the housing bust to the Russian fertilizer king thing and
the Russian fertilizer king’s plane showing up in Concord, NC during Trump rally campaign thing and
the Nunes sudden flight to the White House in the night thing and the Nunes personal investments in the Russian winery thing and
the Cyprus bank thing and
the Trump not releasing his tax returns thing and
the Republican Party’s rejection of an amendment to require Trump to show his taxes thing and
the election hacking thing and
the GOP platform change to the Ukraine thing and
the Steele Dossier thing and
the Leninist Bannon thing and
the Sally Yates can’t testify thing and
the intelligence community’s investigative reports thing and
the Trump reassurance that the Russian connection is all “fake news” thing and
the Spicer’s Russian Dressing “nothing’s wrong” thing and
the Chaffetz not willing to start an investigation thing and
the Chaffetz suddenly deciding to go back to private life in the middle of an investigation thing and
the The Lead DOJ Investigator Mary McCord SUDDENLY in the middle of the investigation decides to resign thing and
the appointment of Pam Bondi who was bribed by trump in the trump university scandal appointed to head the investigation thing and
the The White House going into full-on cover-up mode, refusing to turn over the documents related to the hiring and subsequent firing of Flynn thing and
the Chaffetz and White House blaming the poor vetting of Flynn on Obama thing and
the Poland and British intelligence gave information regarding the hacking back in 2015 to Paul Ryan and he didn’t do anything thing and
the Agent M16 following the money thing and
the trump team KNEW about Flynn’s involvement but hired him anyway thing and
the Corey Lewendowski thing and
the Preet Bharara firing thing but before he left he transferred evidence against trump to a state level Schneiderman thing and
the Betsy Devos’ Brother thing and
the Sebastian Gorka thing and
the Greg Gianforte from Montana thing and
the pence actually was warned about Flynn before he was hired thing and
the Pence and Manafort connection thing and
the 7 Allies coming forward with audio where trump was picked up in incidental wire tapping thing and
the carter Page defying the Senate’s order to hand over his Russian contact list AND
the trump wants to VETO Sally Yates’ testimony thing


“Move along. There’s nothing to see here.”
-anon probably

20 anon May 19, 2017 at 10:30 PM

Trumps Approval Rating As Of Friday, May 19, 2017, Holds Strong At 44%.

21 anon May 19, 2017 at 10:41 PM

The border wall will be a glorious “Running Fence,” much like Christo constructed, but it will be metal.

22 Trumpwon May 20, 2017 at 12:01 AM

Trump won get over it…

23 apollo idol prudence May 20, 2017 at 12:50 AM

Get a life? We’re on Claycord!

24 Amigo May 20, 2017 at 5:44 AM

Trump is President
God Bless America

25 Forsythe May 20, 2017 at 6:23 AM

GREAT AGAIN: Unlike Obama, Trump doesn’t bow to Saudi king

What a difference an election can make for the respect leaders have for our country. There were two very different outcomes when two American presidents greeted the king of Saudi Arabia. Trump’s posture is in stark contrast to President Obama’s in the early days of his presidency.

Cameras show Obama bowing, while contorting to nearly a 90-degree angle.


26 anon May 20, 2017 at 7:31 AM

@20 Local

Sorry, you have got to pack it up and get out. You’re mom wants the basement for your better-looking brother. You know, the one who actually got the GED. And, about her bathrobe … he bought her a new one for Mother’s Day, you loser. Remember? Mother’s Day?

27 anon May 20, 2017 at 7:42 AM

Democrats Disappointed After Their Stunning Defeat Have Worked Themselves Into A Frenzy of Accusations And Fabricated Reality

“Obama-era Director of National Intelligence James Clapper testified under oath there was no collusion between the Trump campaign and the Russians.” Rep. Andy Biggs

28 anon May 20, 2017 at 7:52 AM

Trump Gets First Class Tteatment As He And Melania Visit Saudi Arabia

29 anon May 20, 2017 at 8:06 AM

Hillary Clinton Is A “Completely Hiollow Woman” According To Best Selling Author Camille Paglia

Unable to deal with the media, Clinton avoided any authentic interactions with reporters and representatives of the news outlets prior to her stunning defeat. Trump, on the other hand, is a master at dealing with the media and easily makes himself available, to his advantage.

30 Dr. Jellyfinger May 20, 2017 at 8:24 AM

@ 14 ~ So… 2 charges of sexual harassment? That’s it? LOL!
Yes I’m sure Bill Clinton is jealous of Roger’s record of debauchery….
I guess we’ll have to wait for old Bill to die before we hear a peep from you guys about him.
Truth is….
All the curses and selective anger is at Ailes for creating FOX News! and from a gaggle of pathetics who are too blinded by their political leanings to accept news details they’d rather not hear of. Not that I really give a rat’s patootie about him, but now I understand what all your fuss is about.

Sorry, but there has to be some media outlet that isn’t censoring the news.
There must be an alternative to the main stream media and their one sided, omission riddled reports carefully designed to flatter the liberal & left leaning and disparage all those that oppose it…
and that’s the way it is!

31 TIFOKCIS May 20, 2017 at 8:26 AM

Does not bow. Does not wear headscarf.

President Donald J. Trump and First Lady Melania Trump!

32 Silva May 20, 2017 at 9:13 AM

Here is a manifest of the West Wing power players who all belong to the famously competing factions within the President’s fractious inner circle, and will be at Trump’s side as he travels:

Melania Trump — first lady
Reince Priebus — White House chief of staff
Stephen Miller — senior policy adviser
Jared Kushner — senior adviser, foreign policy point man and Trump’s son-in-law
Steve Bannon — chief White House strategist
Ivanka Trump — adviser to the President and Trump’s daughter
H.R. McMaster — national security adviser
Sean Spicer — White House press secretary
Sarah Huckabee Sanders — deputy press secretary
Michael Anton — National Security Council spokesman
Hope Hicks — White House director of strategic communications
Gary Cohn — National Economic Council director
Dina Powell — deputy national security adviser
Josh Raffel — communications adviser

And a great time it is and will be! Taking the white house on the road.

33 KJ May 20, 2017 at 9:14 AM

TIFOKCIS #32 — According to Trump, the First Lady not wearing a headscarf in Saudi Arabia is an insult to the Saudi’s. At least he said it was insulting to the Saudi’s when Michelle Obama did not wear a head scarf.

Trump may not bow, but he sure is handing over a whole lots of weapons to the Saudis,$110 Billion worth, paid for by US taxpayers. Interesting that in 2015 Trump tweeted: “Dopey Prince @Alwaleed_Talal wants to control our U.S. politicians with daddy’s money. Can’t do it when I get elected.”

34 anon May 20, 2017 at 9:22 AM


High Five! Low Five! Boogie Down!

35 JWB May 20, 2017 at 9:26 AM

@ #32

Now that is funny thanks for the laugh …….

“Many people are saying it was wonderful that Mrs. Obama refused to wear a scarf in Saudi Arabia, but they were insulted.We have enuf enemies”

Donald J. Trump January 29, 2015

36 Forsythe May 20, 2017 at 10:28 AM

American citizens are supposed to be innocent until proven guilty.

But the media and the Democrats seem to be using the Russians to condemn President Trump. They are having a field day with hearsay and rumors.

Our civil liberty protections and rules of press ethics are designed to prevent people from being targeted for extended periods of time under public suspicion without being aware of the exact nature, or origin, of the accusations.

Liberal thinkers have traditionally abhorred secret courts, secret surveillance, and secret evidence.

In the past, the news media would have been called to task for printing vague charges from secret sources. But because it’s Donald Trump, no one seems to care.

Instead, we are being fed a constant stream of leaks, and vague hints of evidence just around the corner.

Saul Alinsky would be proud.

The public deserves to know the truth. Propaganda that is meant to damage the credibility of the President, and undermine his agenda, reflects the left’s contempt for the outcome of the election.

The Democrats have yet to reflect upon the real reasons why Hillary lost.

Read more at:

37 Anon May 20, 2017 at 10:54 AM

Guess local forgets about all those associated with the democrats who died under suspicious circumstances.

But local refers to those as conspiracy theories, while throwing out the anti-GOP blather as fact.

Try again, local the LOSER!

38 KJ May 20, 2017 at 11:07 AM

Ivanka and Jared Kushner are “observant” Chabad (Orthodox) Jews, which is why they had to get a Rabbinical pass to travel on Friday, the Jewish Sabbath. However, their observant behavior does not seem to extend to another Chabad rule, the wearing of head covering. Ivanka is even being lauded for not wearing a scarf in Saudi Arabia, which (according to her father) is rude to the Saudis, but perhaps also to Orthodox Jews. Then again, maybe they got a “pass” for head covering, too.

“Single women need not cover their hair, but married, divorced, or widowed women should preferably do so at all times…The letter of the law requires that all the hair be covered.”

39 Local May 20, 2017 at 11:18 AM

You believed there was a child sex ring in the basement of a pizza place with no basement but you can’t see the trump/Russia connection. K.

40 grandmato3 May 20, 2017 at 11:32 AM

@ Local, you can’t fix stupid and as there are faux noise watchers here on Claycord they will try and refute anything you post. That’s what they learn from faux noise, where ‘fair and balanced’ is out the window. BTW, Rasmussen leans right so take the survey that the orange man in the WH is at 44% and deduct at least 5 points. Only those who continue to refuse to admit they made a huge mistake still stand with him.

41 Great Gonzo May 20, 2017 at 11:48 AM

Does ANYONE in kaliforniastan know the President picks various high government officials who serve at HIS pleasure? Sort of like how when slick willie clinton arrived in DC the first time he FIRED, without stating a cause, every federal attorney in the country, all 89 of them, and no one on the Right said a word? Because the Righties know the law and it was slickes prerogative. Yet when PRESIDENT TRUMP fires one guy he did not appoint the lefties go nuts! WIth demands for impeachment.

Yet ever telling us what actual crime was committed.

Unlike their last boy who did commit crimes the left shouted down.

42 Silva May 20, 2017 at 12:11 PM

Melania and Ivanka forgo headscarves in Saudi Arabia two years after Trump slammed Michelle Obama for ‘insulting’ the Islamic country when she decided not to cover her head.

In 2015 Donald Trump tweeted that former First Lady Michelle Obama insulted Saudi Arabians when she didn’t wear a headscarf on the presidential visit.

He will say anything.

43 slagheap May 20, 2017 at 1:01 PM

you can take this to the bank: the dumph will not make it to the anniversary of his inaugural ball – he will have resigned or had a complete, gibbering, mental breakdown.

44 Local May 20, 2017 at 2:34 PM

Tifukus said Trump didn’t bow. Fox news makes you look not only uninformed, but completely gullible.

Fox praises Trump for not bowing to Saudi leaders — right before he bows and curtsies

trump curtsied, lol.

45 anon May 20, 2017 at 3:08 PM

@41 grandmato3

This article from January 2017 gives the breakdown of the “trusted” networks. Fully 50% of those who watched Fox News trusted their reporting, one of the highest ratings of those network viewers polled. CNN did much worse. Things have gotten much more desperate since January in the liberal media wirh manufactured conspiracies right and left with unsubstantiated rumours and innuendo. As I posted above, even Diane Feinstein admits there is no credible evidence that there was collusion between the Yrump campaign and the Russians.

46 KJ May 20, 2017 at 3:29 PM

Forsythe @ 26 — Trump did “lean over” so the Saudi king could put a medal over his head. You may choose not to call that a bow, although bowing is what people generally do when royalty is putting a chain over their head.

And then Trump did a cute little curtsy. A quick little dip.

In the video, it also looked like Trump touched the king. Isn’t touching a big no/no with royals?

47 Atticus Thraxx May 20, 2017 at 4:20 PM

Twitter, the gift that just keeps giving….
“Many people are saying it was wonderful that Mrs. Obama refused to wear a scarf in Saudi Arabia, but they were insulted.We have enuf enemies”

Donald J Trump

8:40 AM – 29 Jan 2015

48 anon May 20, 2017 at 4:40 PM

@40 Local

What are you talking about here, exactly?

49 KJ May 20, 2017 at 5:30 PM

anon @ 51 — He’s referring to “pizzagate.” Surely, you remember “pizzagate.” It was all the rage among right-leaning scandal mongers and disseminators of fake news. Fox must have covered it 24/7. Hillary was “involved.”

50 mtzman May 20, 2017 at 5:50 PM

I am SO glad all is right with the world now. Trump didn’t bow (well, except that he actually did and also curtsied to the king). Of course, Obama, Bush, Reagan, Nixon, Eisenhower and I’m sure other presidents have bowed in the past — they’re just the ones I saw pictures of today.

And Melania and Ivanka didn’t wear headscarves, either. Of course, neither have Michelle Obama, Hillary Clinton, Laura Bush, Theresa May, Angela Merkle, or Princess Diana.

Glad we straightened that one out and made America great again …

51 mtzman May 20, 2017 at 5:53 PM

@KJ #52, it was also on Law and Order: SVU, ripped from the headlines, so it must have been true.

52 anon May 20, 2017 at 6:49 PM

Liberal Media Bias Out Of Control

The clearest and most direct explanation you will hear on the Harvard study of media bias comes from Tucker Carlson replete with illustrative clips of the emotionally charged wording and hyped reports which have worked Democrats into an irrational frenzy.

53 anon May 20, 2017 at 6:52 PM

@52 KJ

Thanks. It must have been before my time. I just got involved recently.

54 Dr. Jellyfinger May 20, 2017 at 7:23 PM

As long as Trump doesn’t throw up his dinner on the King of Sand Land
(like a certain President Bush did it in Japan) his visit will be considered a success.
LOL! Let those Saudi boys see Melania without a head scarf… “It leaves nothing to the imagination” they cry…”and without a Burka , her voluptuous figure is too obvious… what fun is that?!”

55 Dr. Jellyfinger May 20, 2017 at 7:26 PM

@ slag44 ~ Bet you have one first.

56 Dr. Jellyfinger May 20, 2017 at 9:01 PM

You know it might have been better to leave Melania at home.
The Sharia Law penalty for masturbation is 50 lashes with a dried Camel pizzle.
They could run out of camel pizzles and Kleenex at the same time!

57 Jerk May 20, 2017 at 9:17 PM

Yawn! Belief needs to stay in the realm of Religion.
FACT: The Presidio Daycare Molestations, The Franklin CoverUp, The McMartin Tunnels, Hollie Greig…….
And the list goes on and on. That’s Right – The People You Vote for are involved in this filth.

58 BH May 21, 2017 at 1:58 AM

The impeachment party will be at my home…but none of you are invited.

59 Silva May 21, 2017 at 6:33 AM

“…But there’s another reason pleasing Saudi Arabia matters to Trump: Bloomberg reports that the kingdom is considering investing around $40 billion in US infrastructure. Trump wants to spend $1 trillion on improving American infrastructure, and the Saudi money would certainly help achieve that goal. Second, the more libertarian-leaning members of the Republican party who have complained that many of Trump’s policy inclinations go against traditional conservative free-market principles now have yet another data point to make their case. After all, this is a clear example of the government directly interfering in the free market by trying to get a company to change its price on an item. Even worse, one of the president’s senior advisers purposefully fought to make a US company less money in order to help another country out. I very much doubt that’s what most Trump voters expected his “America First” policy to look like. Finally, the fact that Kushner himself was at the center of the whole thing is especially notable. Whereas foreign military sales in the past would be negotiated through multiple US government bureaucracies, countries can now apparently skip all that red tape and go right to the source as long as they forge a relationship with Kushner. And you better believe that other countries are paying attention to that….”

60 TIFOKCIS May 21, 2017 at 7:08 AM


Still YOUR President.

61 Randy May 21, 2017 at 7:27 AM

@anon 55. Ah a new luv.

62 Forsythe May 21, 2017 at 7:34 AM

The Democrats are sore losers. They have been tearing up the floorboards looking for evidence of collusion between the Trump campaign and the Russian government.

None has been found.

Our very own Congressman Mark DeSaulnier skipped the Inauguration.

Ross Douthat of the Times is calling for removal of Trump for mental incompetence.

The president is not a suave man, but he is very tough and very smart, and his enemies are not. He will win and he will change America.

63 Amigo May 21, 2017 at 8:43 AM

Great speech by President Trump in Saudi Arabia today.

God Bless America
Trump is President

64 BH May 21, 2017 at 9:02 AM

Still, people here don’t get it.

Yes, there is evidence of Russian collusion.

Yes, when all the evidence is finally released, Trump
will be guilty of treason and conspiring to give intelligence information
to Russia.

Get him out of the office and lock HIM up.

65 Forsythe May 21, 2017 at 10:41 AM

The Democrats are using petty Russian accusations to try to bring down President Trump. In the process, the Democrats are undermining U.S. foreign policy.

President Trump is working to unite world powers to fight terrorism.

President Obama allowed the Russians to gain the upper hand in the middle east. Trump will work to reverse the damage done by the Obama administration.

President Donald Trump and President Barack Obama delivered addresses to the Muslim world at roughly the same point in their presidencies.

Obama tried to appease Islamic resentment of the West by admitting America’s faults.

Today’s Trump’s speech in Saudi Arabia challenged the Arab and Muslim world to foster peace by “honestly confronting the problem of Islamic extremism, and Islamic terror of all kinds.”

Trump addressed a summit of Arab and Muslim leaders at a conference to deal with terrorism.

Obama, by contrast, invited members of the Muslim Brotherhood to his address at Al-Azhar University in Cairo. Obama gave legitimacy to a banned group associated with terror and extremist ideology.


66 Dr. Jellyfinger May 21, 2017 at 11:00 AM

BH ~ It will take evidence to make the fairy tale come true. So far it’s just been rumors and fake news. Don’t hold your breath!

67 chad May 21, 2017 at 12:28 PM

Fun Fact i just learned while studying geography.

1990s Southeast Asia suffered a devastating recession due to … Crony Capitalism.

Please do the smallest amount of research on Crony Capitlism and your mind will naturally draw parallels.

68 Randy May 21, 2017 at 12:38 PM

@forthsyte. Is tjis anything like Benghazi?

69 Aspirin May 21, 2017 at 1:06 PM

As long as we continue to meddle in the Middle East we will be fighting terrorism.

Would we like it if another country is trying to tell us how to behave and how to run our country?

70 Aspirin May 21, 2017 at 1:10 PM

Forsythe # 70, quoting Breitbart destroys your credibility.

Perhaps a less biased source will serve your purposes more effectively.

Just a thought to help.

71 anon May 21, 2017 at 1:20 PM

When a Democrat, Diane Feinstein (a member of the Senate Intelligence Committee), says there is no evidence of collusion between the Trump campaign and the Russians — only rumor and innuendo, I have a tendency to believe what she says is true. Most Democrats have worked themselves into a kind of mass hysteria, and are actually beleiving their own crazy fabricated accusations and scenarios. I think some of the saner Democrats need to try and calm down some of the more excitable ones before the excitable ones alienate what little voter support they have remaining. Just a suggestion. They are beginning to sound really “out there.”

72 anon May 21, 2017 at 1:34 PM

@66 Randy

Not exactly. However, I do believe Carlson is a skilled interviewer and able to get to the heart of a matter. He certainly has the remarkable ability to very calmly make certain liberals look like raging idiots, without even breaking a sweat. Very controlled technique and looks to be putting in a lot of work on research prior to the interview. In some cases, he maneuvers the guest into position very methodically then goes in for the kill. Intetesting to watch. Sort of like watching a lion stalk it’s prey.

73 Dr. Jellyfinger May 21, 2017 at 3:15 PM

@ 75~ You can’t dismiss a source just because YOU don’t trust it.
Try to prove anything # 70 contributed is incorrect… of course you won’t, you will just be contrary to everything that does not support your point of view no matter who the source is.

74 Atticus Thraxx May 21, 2017 at 3:24 PM

Tucker is a tool and doesn’t believe is own BS, no reason anyone else should.

75 Dr. Jellyfinger May 21, 2017 at 7:58 PM
76 anon May 21, 2017 at 9:22 PM

@78 Atticus Thraxx

One might say that being able to separate ones personal beliefs from their assigned work duties was a mark of a true professional. The public would surely welcome a little more professionalism from the media these days, in that case. Carlson has a job to do, and he does it well. See especially his interview with the leader of the antifa. He made her look like a fool on a stick.

77 anon May 21, 2017 at 9:50 PM

Republicans Face Violence And Death Threats From Left Wing Activists

The left wing “party of tolerance” isn’t.

78 Dr. Jellyfinger May 21, 2017 at 10:19 PM

Well ….. how do you like this?
There is proof of Presidential collusion with the Russians!

79 Aspirin May 21, 2017 at 10:30 PM

Trump in the Middle East is like a goldfish in a tank full of piranha.

80 Aspirin May 21, 2017 at 10:31 PM

Anon quoting Breitbart again. Citing super-biased sources is a sure way to turn people off.

81 Forsythe May 22, 2017 at 7:41 AM

About that Harvard Study: why the public has lost trust in the media:

The biased news coverage of President Trump’s first 100 days has had little impact on public opinion. And it has changed few minds.

The public views the media as nothing more than propaganda hacks for the Democrat party.

CNN and NBC have a negativity bias of 93%, according to the Harvard Study. Other news outlets aren’t much better.

As the nation’s watchdog, the media has lost much of its bite. It won’t regain credibility until it applies the same reporting standards to both parties.

It is obvious that the media is waging war with the President.

Of course, impeaching Trump would mean replacing a big-mouthed but otherwise conservative Democrat with a genuinely conservative and evangelical Republican.

Even Pelosi seems to be figuring this out.

82 anon May 22, 2017 at 8:15 AM

@84 Aspirin

“Anon quoting Breitbart again. Citing super-biased sources is a sure way to turn people off.”

The question is, “Is it an accurate report of events?” Yes, it is. We have seen it with our own eyes, we’ve heard liberals say it, what more proof do you need? It is an accurate report of the hysteria that is driving liberals.

83 Silva May 22, 2017 at 8:29 AM

“…On Nov. 11, three days after the election, Trump announced that Pence would take charge of the transition. A week later, Trump named Flynn as his national security adviser. Flynn brought his adult son into the transition, and that was a problem: Flynn’s son had circulated racist tweets and conspiracy theories, including a fantasy about a human trafficking ring, which duped a man into firing shots in a Washington pizza restaurant on Dec. 4. On Dec. 6, Pence was asked on MSNBC about the younger Flynn’s role in the transition. Twice, he insisted that Flynn Jr. had “no involvement in the transition whatsoever.” That turned out to be false. Hours later, Pence told CNN’s Jake Tapper: “I said this morning that his son had no involvement in the transition, but I have talked to Gen. Flynn, and his son was helping him a bit with scheduling and administrative items.” Pence seemed to think this was the end of the story. But it wasn’t. CONTINUED Pizzagate.
“…On Nov. 11, three days after the election, Trump announced that Pence would take charge of the transition. A week later, Trump named Flynn as his national security adviser. Flynn brought his adult son into the transition, and that was a problem: Flynn’s son had circulated racist tweets and conspiracy theories, including a fantasy about a human trafficking ring, which duped a man into firing shots in a Washington pizza restaurant on Dec. 4. On Dec. 6, Pence was asked on MSNBC about the younger Flynn’s role in the transition. Twice, he insisted that Flynn Jr. had “no involvement in the transition whatsoever.” That turned out to be false. Hours later, Pence told CNN’s Jake Tapper: “I said this morning that his son had no involvement in the transition, but I have talked to Gen. Flynn, and his son was helping him a bit with scheduling and administrative items.” Pence seemed to think this was the end of the story. But it wasn’t.. Continued;

84 Silva May 22, 2017 at 8:29 AM


85 Silva May 22, 2017 at 9:03 AM

Forsythe #85, Everyone has always known that Pence was the backup plan.

Mr. Complicit; Mike Pence isn’t avoiding Trump’s misconduct. He’s abetting it.

Also; Pizzagate Explained;

86 Silva May 22, 2017 at 10:00 AM

Holy smokes! And the Republicans went crazy when the Saudis donated $25 million to the Clinton Foundation. Oh well, I guess that’s inflation for you.

About a month ago, Ivanka Trump boasted about a new initiative: in addition to her White House duties, the president’s daughter is helping raise money to “benefit female entrepreneurs around the globe.” As part of the endeavor, Ivanka Trump had already begun soliciting contributions from international donors. It wasn’t long before legal and ethical questions arose – when the president of the United States’ daughter starts asking for money from prospective donors abroad, scrutiny is inevitable – prompting Ivanka Trump to make clear that the World Bank would manage the investment fund; she was merely championing the worthy cause. The story took an interesting turn over the weekend with new “pay-to-play” concerns. NPR reported: Saudi Arabia and the United Arab Emirates will donate a combined $100 million to a World Bank fund for women entrepreneurs that was the brainchild of Ivanka Trump. The announcement by World Bank President Jim Young Kim came during a visit to Saudi Arabia by President Trump, who was accompanied by his wife, Melania, daughter Ivanka and son-in-law, Jared Kushner.

Some context is in order. It was just last year, for example, that Donald Trump said he was outraged that the Clinton Foundation accepted charitable contributions from Saudi Arabia, which, the Republican said, wants “women as slaves” and to “kill gays.” He added at the time, “Hillary must return all money from such countries!”

87 Silva May 22, 2017 at 10:24 AM

A White House official told reporters that President Trump is “exhausted” just three days into his first trip abroad as president. Remember when he said Hillary lacked “stamina”? Trump was expected to say “Islamist extremism” during his speech to Muslim leaders in Saudi Arabia, but instead said “Islamic extremism.” When asked why Trump deviated from the prepared text of his speech, an administration official said Trump is “just an exhausted guy.” After the speech, Trump reportedly canceled his appearance at the Tweeps Forum. Ivanka Trump filled in for her father, speaking to about 400 people at the event. The slip of saying “Islamic” extremism instead of “Islamist” extremism is significant, because “Islamic” imputes the extremism to all of Islam far more than “Islamist” does. This was a major goof to make in front of the King of Saudi Arabia and his advisers and guests. To attribute it to exhaustion is tantamount to saying that Trump simply doesn’t have the stamina to be president. Then later in the day, this happened:

88 TIFOKCIS May 22, 2017 at 10:57 AM

Sure would be nice if the ‘resist’ people could ‘resist’ driving reckless when they see my TRUMP bumper sticker.

89 Dr. Jellyfinger May 22, 2017 at 11:40 AM

Maybe I’m being a bit unfair to Nancy…
It was outgoing California Democratic Party chairman John Burton who was waving his middle fingers in the air and rallying his party’s annual convention to chant “F*ck Donald Trump!”
Nancy didn’t give the one finger salute or crude F chant… she just stood there laughing like a child…. a clueless, grinning, bug eyed child….

90 Dr. Jellyfinger May 22, 2017 at 11:51 AM

I’ll bet Trump is tired! I wouldn’t worry too much tho…. maybe if we see the Secret Service agents have to carry him to the car & dump him in like Hillary… or if he starts bobbing his head awkwardly or begins barking like a dog and has a Doctor with a epi pen constantly at his side …..then I’d worry.

91 Elwood May 22, 2017 at 2:20 PM

@ Aspirin #84

The Breitbart link posted by Anon is simply a reiteration of facts, you nincompoop.

Nowhere therein is any opinion expressed. Have you suffered head trauma?

92 Silva May 22, 2017 at 2:55 PM

No Dr. Jellyfinger, we got this instead; Breathtakingly Irresponsible: Former Bush Iraq Adviser on Trump Sharing Secret Intel with Russians

93 Silva May 22, 2017 at 3:18 PM

Congress Should Halt Trump’s $110B Arms Deal over Saudi Atrocities in Yemen & Region;

94 Silva May 22, 2017 at 3:58 PM

Stupid Watergate: Last Week Tonight with John Oliver
It is hilarious. Salty language (f-bombs).

95 TIFOKCIS May 22, 2017 at 4:05 PM

The face of the Democrat Party is a bunch of old, senile, Soviet-Style Oligarchs. They gained their wealth by fooling the poor, uneducated and naive youth indoctrinating them to believe they are the party who cares about them. Time has proven they only care about screwing the people of their hard earn money while they line their pockets, and that of their elitist friends.

96 Aspirin May 22, 2017 at 4:28 PM

These are dark days for our country. With a serial liar in the White House and a spineless GOP Congress we are in for a rough ride.

97 Aspirin May 22, 2017 at 4:35 PM

Re: Elwood #95: Breitbart reported three (3) “alleged” incidents of threats by “liberals”.

Three incidents.

By contrast, how many incidents of threats and violence have anti-abortion Republicans committed against Planned Parenthood or other perfectly legal womens health clinics?

98 Aspirin May 22, 2017 at 4:40 PM

Re: Silva #91: Trump is, by my guess, about 70 pounds overweight. Notice his wearing dark suits always?

Makes him look less overweight.

99 Sad May 22, 2017 at 5:19 PM

Reports out of Manchester, England at least 19 dead concert bombing.
Bet bomber wasn’t a Methodist.

100 Silva May 22, 2017 at 5:55 PM

‘I never mentioned the word or the name Israel,’ Trump said.
The reporting never suggested Trump said the name Israel – although it subsequently emerged that the information Trump provided could have compromised Israeli intelligence sources.
Trump brought up the Russia saga himself during a meeting with Israel’s prime minister Benjamin Netanyahu. Trump and Netanyahu addressed reporters briefly before their joint meeting began. When reporters started yelling questions, press minders from both delegations tried to cut off the event and move reporters and photographers away. Trump held up his hands in order to give himself time to respond, pausing until it was quiet enough for him to speak. ‘I never mentioned the word or the name Israel. Never mentioned during that conversation,’ Trump said. ‘They’re all saying I did, so you have another story wrong,’ Trump continued, taking a shot at the media. ‘Never mentioned the word Israel,’ Trump added.
Oh dear.

101 Aspirin May 22, 2017 at 7:04 PM

Like I’ve said before, Trump is proving to be the most entertaining politician in a very long time.

Too bad he doesn’t realize it.

102 Aspirin May 22, 2017 at 7:06 PM

Thank you Republicans for foisting this political disaster upon us. We’ll be remembering this for quite a few elections.

Good job, GOP.

103 Hmm ? May 22, 2017 at 7:20 PM

“Thank you Republicans for foisting this political disaster upon us. We’ll be remembering this for quite a few elections”

Substitute democrats for Republicans.
Since then Obama has destroyed public morale and trust in government with his radical Progressive agenda and anti-American foreign policy.

“In 2010 Democrats lost the House to Republicans.
In 2014 Democrats lost the Senate to Republicans.

Since Obama took office Democrats have lost:
14 Senate seats
69 House seats
12 governorships
910 state legislature seats
That’s over 1,000 seats lost! ”

Best for last
democrats lost the Presidency.

104 Hmm ? May 22, 2017 at 8:18 PM

Fair warning if democrat politicians get their way and force single payer universal health care onto California right from the get go they will be over
$200 BILLION short. An guess who they are going to want to pay that short fall ? Any yearly increase in plan costs which will surely happen you get to pay for too. Think of it as YOUR reward for electing democrats
and stupidly giving them a super majority in state legislature so they can pass any bill they want to. My YOU are so trusting

“The price tag is in: It would cost $400 billion to remake California’s health insurance marketplace and create a publicly funded universal heath care system, according to a state financial analysis released Monday.

California would have to find an additional $200 billion per year, including in new tax revenues, to create a so-called “single-payer” system, the analysis by the Senate Appropriations Committee found.”

What’s there to worry about after all look how well democrats managed keeping costs under control on that partial Bay Bridge replacement.
WAY over budget and many years late.

In case you are wondering …
this from Bill Analysis of SB-562 The Healthy California Act

Eligibility for Healthy California
“Makes every resident of the state eligible and entitled to enroll. “Resident” is defined as an individual whose primary place of abode is in the state, without regard to the individual’s immigration status.”

Anyone who makes it to CA you get to pay for and pay for and pay for and
pay . . . pay . . . pay ….
See what happens when you leave democrats unsupervised?

105 Dr. Jellyfinger May 22, 2017 at 8:37 PM

Silva…. “sharing information about ISIS and collaborating with clear enemies of ISIS, like Russia only makes good sense to me. Withholding information about ISIS, from other state parties, which could lead to its demise seems to me to be extremely counterproductive”.

Besides that, the laptop bombs are old news, no classified info was compromised that we needed to keep secret from Russia……What? … we told them where the laptop bombs were being made so maybe they could bomb ’em?
The people who leaked the story are the ones who are compromising our security.
You condemn Trump but have no criticism for those who leaked secret conversations with our allies in the war on terror?
Whose side are you on?
America’s side?
The Russian’s side?
Or the left wing loonie Democrat’s side? (it’s a rhetorical question).

106 Dr. Jellyfinger May 22, 2017 at 9:38 PM
107 Dr. Jellyfinger May 22, 2017 at 9:56 PM

And there’s more! So much for the Russian / Wiki Leaks guesswork from Dumicrats….

108 Elwood May 22, 2017 at 10:53 PM

@ Aspirin #101

The word alleged is used in connection with every arrest nowadays.

In this litigious society in which we live LE could be successfully sued by someone found not guilty of the offense for which he/she was arrested.

109 Forsythe May 23, 2017 at 6:40 AM

President Trump’s historic Middle East trip is being derided by the media and Democrats as simply a chance for him to skip town to avoid ongoing scandals — while overlooking the fact the Trump has pushed the “re-set button” when it comes to Middle East policy.

President Obama’s Middle East policy was tragic. He:

——Invited the Russians back into the Mideast.
——Undercut Saudi Arabia and Egypt.
——Helped create a terrorist enclave in Libya.
——Betrayed our best friend in the region, Israel.
——Weakened an already shaky Iraqi regime.
——Emboldened Iran to further meddle in its neighbors affairs and signed a disastrous nuclear deal with the mullahs that will let them develop a nuclear weapon with which to terrorize the Mideast and Europe.

In his now-famous Cairo speech, Obama apologized profusely for the West’s “colonialism,” and laughingly pretended that Islam had almost nothing to do with the scourge of global terrorism, calling it “a model of tolerance and equality.”

Obama’s apology tour was greeted with almost universal contempt in the region as a sign of weakness.

Trump has managed to re-establish the United States as a forceful and able partner and leader in the Middle East. Trump’s blunt words in Saudi Arabia:

“We are not here to lecture. We are not here to tell other people how to live, what to do, who to be, how to worship. Instead, we are here to offer partnership. Based on shared interests and values — to pursue a better future for us all.”

110 anon May 23, 2017 at 7:54 AM

Trump has not committed impeachable offences. The Republicans won’t impeach him. Democrats don’t want Pence governing the nation. Public isn’t convinced Trump did anything wrong. Impeachment is a threat, the only bargaining chip the Democrats have at this point … politically.

Reasons Trump Is Not Going To Be Impeached

A recent Harvard/Harris poll discovered that:

“·54% of American voters don’t think there is any
evidence of Trump-Russia collusion.
·52% don’t think that Trump campaign officials
colluded with Russia.
·59% don’t think that former FBI director Robert
Mueller’s investigation will lead to Trump’s

111 Hmm ? May 23, 2017 at 8:43 AM


Tell us again all you progressive liberal democrats is it like pelosi said about obamacare have to pass the bill to find out what’s in it.

Do we have to let in all refuges to find out which ones are terrorists?

112 Forsythe May 23, 2017 at 9:09 AM

Tired of the media bias (as outlined by Harvard) by the unhinged, hysterical, left on CNN, MSNBC, etc.?

Check out Fox news. It is considered the least biased. Meanwhile:

CNN’s Berman Picks Wrong Data From Harvard Media Study to Falsely Taint Fox

And, Mike Mulvaney, OMB’s new Budget Director is a huge threat to the left. He actually has common sense. He’s articulate, and he looks at spending through the eyes of the taxpayer.

113 Randy May 23, 2017 at 10:16 AM

@114 anon. The plan is to never let it die. It will still be here at the next election. Sound familiar? Benghazi?

114 TIFOKCIS May 23, 2017 at 2:59 PM

Let me guess……………….

TRUMP caused ISIS to bomb teenagers in Manchester.

115 Aspirin May 23, 2017 at 3:08 PM

Online news is giving the terrorists exactly what they hope for – nonstop publicity.

Bush helped to create ISIS when he fell for Cheney’s lies about WMD.

Now we are seeing the result when we mess around in places we shouldn’t be messing around in.

116 anon May 23, 2017 at 3:09 PM

Local went a little liberal haywire @20

117 Aspirin May 23, 2017 at 3:11 PM

TIFOKCIS #118: Think for a moment if you can. ISIS reacts to allied bombing and killing of civilians in Syria and Iraq.

This does not excuse ISIS but it provides a little education as we go forward into possibly making more disastrous decisions in the Middle East.

118 Aspirin May 23, 2017 at 3:13 PM

Hmm ? #115: As you should have realized by now, the terrorists are already here. They have been for years.

119 anon May 23, 2017 at 3:15 PM

@117 Randy

Remember Gerald Ford? It was impossible not to empathize with him, because he was such a klutz.

120 Aspirin May 23, 2017 at 3:16 PM

Re: anon # 114: You are getting ahead of yourself. How about we wait for results from the investigations now proceeding

Polls don’t investigate. They reflect OPINION.

121 anon May 23, 2017 at 3:39 PM

@124 Aspirin

The threat of impeachment is all the Democrats have at this point and they had to fabricate the offenses, at that. They are powerless and ineffectual. They simply cannot accept that their “party” is over and they must now adapt and evolve to a higher, more sophisticated level of existence that doesn’t involve displaying the middle finger and shouting “f**k Trump.” The people demand better of them. The investigation is little more than a “time out” for Democrats who are behaving like spoiled children. It will be their cooling off period.

122 anon May 23, 2017 at 3:42 PM

@124 Aspirin

The adults among us (read Republicans) don’t take it, or them, too seriously, but agree a “time out” for Democrats is needed . We’re all snickering at Democrat’s childish behavior behind their backs.

123 Randy May 23, 2017 at 4:47 PM

@122 anon A republican right?

124 Elwood May 23, 2017 at 4:56 PM

@ Aspirin #118

“Bush helped to create ISIS when he fell for Cheney’s lies about WMD.”

Good Lord, the addled one has now hopped completely over the eight years of the Obama disaster to put the blame on poor old George W.

And don’t forget Grover Cleveland!.

125 anon May 23, 2017 at 7:36 PM

@126 Randy

Yes. A Republican, he was appointed Vice President when Spiro Agnew resigned, and then later became President when Nixon resigned. Although he was an athletic man, he took several falls while in office without explanation. It sort of became his defining attribute.

126 Aspirin May 23, 2017 at 10:49 PM

Elwood # 124: Insults do not make an argument nor do they make you look smart.

Try history. It will make you smart.

127 Aspirin May 23, 2017 at 10:52 PM

anon # 121: In which language would you like your information? English is not working too well, apparently.

Trump/Nixon comparisons are starting to look pretty good.

128 Aspirin May 23, 2017 at 10:53 PM

TIFOKCIS #114: Good guess.

129 Elwood May 23, 2017 at 11:24 PM

@ Aspirin #126

” Insults do not make an argument nor do they make you look smart.”

You should know. If it weren’t for pig-headed insults you wouldn’t be able to post a word.

You interpret anything posted which does not fit into your demented frame of reference as an insult.

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