Claycord – Talk About Politics

April 14, 2017 19:10 pm · 199 comments


This post is “Talk About Politics”.

Please use this post to talk about politics, and keep politics out of the “whatever” thread.

Thank you, and be kind to each other.

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Hmm ? April 14, 2017 at 7:10 PM

Nancy Pelosi joined other Bay Area Democrats Thursday to
“honor the deep moral responsibility to save lives wherever and whenever we can.”

Wonder if Parents of 32 year old Kate Steinle murdered in San Francisco at Pier 14 by a five time deported convicted Felon ILLEGAL would agree with pelosi’ and CA democrat’s sanctuary policy.

Hmm ? April 14, 2017 at 7:17 PM

Democrats are confused with President Trump’s strategy.
Senator Elizabeth Warren asked “What is the strategy?”

They are not used to a president who doesn’t bow or apologize.
President Trump promised to “bomb the sh*t” out of ISIS.

L0cal April 14, 2017 at 7:18 PM
L0cal April 14, 2017 at 7:19 PM

‘Concrete evidence of collusion between Trump team and Russia’ handed to official investigation

New evidence comes as sources reveal British spy agency GCHQ played pivotal role in uncovering interactions between US President and Russian operatives

L0cal April 14, 2017 at 7:21 PM

House Russia investigator travels to Cyprus, island at center of Manafort allegations

A Democrat on the House intelligence committee flew to Cyprus this week as part of the panel’s broad investigation into allegations that Russian operatives and top aides on President Donald Trump’s campaign colluded to influence the US election.

L0cal April 14, 2017 at 7:23 PM

Paul Manafort, who once ran Trump’s campaign, expected to admit he worked as a foreign agent

Manafort, who resigned from the Trump campaign under a cloud of suspicion surrounding his lobbying work in Ukraine, has reportedly decided to register with the government as a foreign agent.

L0cal April 14, 2017 at 7:24 PM

Trump-linked businesses loaned $13M to shell corporation Paul Manafort created on day he left campaign

On the very same day that Paul Manafort left Trump’s presidential campaign he formed a shell corporation that borrowed $13 million from Trump-connected businesses, according to reports Wednesday.

L0cal April 14, 2017 at 7:24 PM

Former MI6 chief Richard Dearlove says Donald Trump borrowed money from Russia during 2008 financial crisis

Richard Dearlove told Prospect Magazine that “what lingers for Trump may be what deals – on what terms – he did after the financial crisis of 2008 to borrow Russian money” when other banks and lenders would not risk the money, given Mr Trump’s history of bankruptcy.

L0cal April 14, 2017 at 7:26 PM

The FBI suspected Carter Page was working as an agent for Russia

Investigators are reported to have obtained a warrant to monitor Donald Trump’s former foreign-policy adviser

Silva April 14, 2017 at 7:26 PM

Donald Trump Jr. Sends PSYCHOTIC Tweet, Happy His Dad “Bombed The SH*T” Out Of ISIS, Gets BRUTAL Response

Silva April 14, 2017 at 7:29 PM

Secret Service has spent $35,000 on golf cart rentals since inauguration: report

Silva April 14, 2017 at 7:31 PM

So delicious you’ll forget what country you’re bombing;

Hmm ? April 14, 2017 at 7:32 PM

“Former IRS senior executive Lois G. Lerner told a federal court this week that she faces the possibility of death threats if her role in the tax agency’s tea party-targeting becomes public, and asked a judge to forever seal her upcoming deposition in a class-action lawsuit brought by hundreds of groups that were targeted.”

Worry she should but not about retribution from conservative persons or groups.
How many persons with enough knowledge to give damaging court testimony against non republicans are no longer living?

Stay Out of Parks at Night.

L0cal April 14, 2017 at 7:47 PM

After Tillerson Leaves, Putin Orders Sweeping Arrests of Opposition Figures

Last night and this morning after the end of US Secretary of State Rex Tillerson’s visit, Vladimir Putin ordered the arrest of nine opposition figures across the country, “from Nakhodka to Samara,” Rusmonitor reports.

Hmm ? April 14, 2017 at 8:34 PM

democrat’s week in review.
“California Assemblywoman Susan Talamantes Eggman (D-13) is proposing taxpayer-funded medical oversight of heroin addicts to be sure they do not inject too much of the drug when taking it.
Her bill–AB 186–would also provide medical oversight for people addicted to opioids.”

One California State Senator has amended a bill to discriminate against any contractor who works on President Trump’s border wall—by banning them for life from being awarded any contracts with the state of California.

Knee meet JERK
Chris Van Hollen introduces measure to prevent airline passengers from being forcibly removed

My gosh how did we manage to live our lives before control freak democrats showed up?

L0cal April 14, 2017 at 9:12 PM


The U.S. government, however, believes that Zarrab masterminded a sprawling operation to help the Iranian government evade economic sanctions that were put in place to hinder the country’s nuclear-weapons program.

Zarrab fired most of his lawyers and hired Rudy Giuliani, a confidant of President Trump, and Michael Mukasey, the former U.S. Attorney General. Then Trump fired Bharara, the prosecutor who indicted Zarrab in the first place. With a legal team friendly to the President in place, and a hostile prosecutor out of the way, Zarrab may be hoping for a sweet deal from the prosecution.

anon April 14, 2017 at 9:20 PM

President Trump has been described as “results oriented” and appears to be moving to a more “moderate, pragmatic approach” as he now examines the issues facing the country.

Why Trump’s Palace Intrigue Matters

furian April 14, 2017 at 9:47 PM

So no ACA repeal.

No wall paid for by Mexico.

No locking her up.

No staying out of Syria.

No labeling China a currency manipulator.

Swamp is full of politicans and bankers.

No America first.

Do you Trumptards feel stupid yet?

I’m sure you don’t.


anon April 14, 2017 at 10:50 PM

@22 L0cal

The Christian Science Monitor has long been respected for it unbiased examination of the issues. Sorry you didn’t know that. This isn’t the “news” thread, for your information, it’s the “talk about politics” thread. It days so in the header, if you bothered to read it. The only thing your massive abuse of bandwidth proves is that mainstream media is liberal. Thank you, but we already knew that.

Concordejet April 14, 2017 at 11:09 PM

First of all GO LOCAL GO

Local @ 3

You got that right you explained very well how republicans wanna destroy the whole planet.


You got that right there a lot of trumptard out there.

Trump’s less than 100 days already showing how he is screwing every thing up. He already the worst president in history and YES I mean he is the worst president in history the trumptard still do not get it

Trump just sign the bill to allow states to block the parents planned hood.

Trump 100 days in office will end Saturday April 29th. If they cannot come up with a budget than there will be a government shutdown.

Trump wanting to star a war because it the only way he is going to stay in office.

Between Donald Trump and Mike Pence are not much difference except Trump is loudly evil and Mike is quiet evil.

Trump for prison 2017 Make America Smart Again.

anon April 14, 2017 at 11:37 PM

President Donald Trump is already winning the immigration battle without having yet built the wall. His tough talk on illegal immigration has resulted in a substantial drop in the number of illegals crossing the border from Mexico.

Forsythe April 15, 2017 at 7:24 AM

The Democrats cry that “Trump & Russia Stole the Election”. It is an absurd notion. But then, Democrats like to throw accusations around that they themselves are most guilty of employing.

Recently Dr. Evelyn Farkas and her MSNBC appearance bragged that the Trump administration was being surveilled.

She told America she had encouraged her colleagues across the Obama administration to leak information as fast as they could.

Susan Rice leaked conversations, texts, emails, throughout the intelligence community.

There was a clear strategy to spy on the Trump camp to steal the presidency. Hillary, Barack, Jarett, Rice, Rhodes, Clapper, Brennan, Comey, Podesta, Brazile, Mook, Palmieri, Wasserman-Schultz and other deviant political operatives were working overtime to steal the election.

Not the Russians.


anon April 15, 2017 at 8:38 AM


Where did I say The Christian Science Monitor is mainstream media? I didn’t.

PEGASUS April 15, 2017 at 8:59 AM

Liberals are boring. Snivel, whine, complain, moan, blame, gripe, cry! It never changes.
Here’s your chance cry-babies, how would you fix the whole damn country once and for all.?
You get 100 days to fix everything, and you better not make any mistakes!

Silva April 15, 2017 at 9:07 AM

Dr. Jellyfinger, Too harsh on Concordejet please. Not everyone’s graced with the same impeccable credentials you were. I’d defend his or her right to express him or herself in his or her own inimitable unique style regardless of their political leanings. I think he or she does their best. And much like yourself, Concordejet breaks me to pieces. 🙂

KJ April 15, 2017 at 9:46 AM

Trump wants to ride in Queen Elizabeth’s golden carriage when he goes to London. That presents a big security issue for the British, but what does Trump care? “I want. I want. I WANT!”

Personally, I hope the Queen puts her foot down and says “NO!”

There are times that kids (even when they’re 70 years old) cannot get what they want.

L0cal April 15, 2017 at 10:06 AM

President Trump, king of flip-flops (continued)

Perhaps no politician is a bigger flip-flopper than President Trump. In fact, two months into his presidency, we declared Trump the “king of flip-flops.” He has received numerous Upside-Down Pinocchios, on his stance on employment numbers, the stock market, H-1B visas and more.

Here’s a roundup of Trump’s recent flip-flops, most of which took place in the 24 hours leading up to this fact check.

On NATO being “obsolete”
On labeling China a currency manipulator
On the Export-Import Bank
On whether he knows Putin
On whether to pursue a tax code overhaul
On Janet L. Yellen
On intervening in Syria

PEGASUS April 15, 2017 at 10:49 AM

not connected with or relevant to something.
synonyms: beside the point, immaterial, not pertinent, not germane, off the subject, unconnected, unrelated, peripheral, extraneous, inapposite, inapplicable; unimportant, inconsequential, insignificant, trivial; off-topic; formalimpertinent
“the judge ruled that democrats are irrelevant”

Silva April 15, 2017 at 11:24 AM

Trump demanding ride in queen’s gold carriage during Buckingham Palace visit: report Lol.

PEGASUS April 15, 2017 at 11:25 AM

Whatever made you believe I was Republican, cuz I ain’t.
……and Cheese&Rice, can’t you do better than that lame comment!

Silva April 15, 2017 at 1:25 PM

Kim Jong-un orders evacuation of Pyongyang:

anon April 15, 2017 at 1:31 PM

The Swamp Draining Continues As Lansing, Michigan Votes To Rescind It’s “Santuary City” Status

Amazed April 15, 2017 at 1:43 PM

Are you serious? EVERYBODY — including his own party and members of his own administration — is confused about Trump’s “strategy.” Because he doesn’t have one. During the campaign, he repeatedly claimed that he had beautiful, tremendous plans which he couldn’t yet reveal. When he was elected, it (unsurprisingly) turned out he didn’t have any plans, not for health care or for anything else. Because he was winging it, a massive number of government positions were unfilled. Now he’s just veering wildly from one position to another — on extremely important and delicate domestic and international matters. HE. HAS. NO. STRATEGY. At least when he’s not playing golf. How long are you going to chug the Kool-Aid?

Aspirin April 15, 2017 at 2:28 PM

Will the real Donald Trump please stand up ?

We can’t figure out who you are anymore.

Aspirin April 15, 2017 at 2:30 PM

I really, really wonder about the mental abilities of Trump voters. Lying to them was like taking candy from a baby.

Good job, Donald.

Aspirin April 15, 2017 at 2:37 PM

Let’s keep score …

We kill 94.
ISIS kills 33 in Syria and 22 in Iraq, and 44 in Egypt..

Are we winning ?

Aspirin April 15, 2017 at 2:38 PM

We cannot beat terrorists with bombs.

(Psst, don’t tell the idiot in the White House).

Aspirin April 15, 2017 at 4:00 PM

“Trump claims immunity as president from protesters’ lawsuit” !

Yoo-hoo Mr President. Just a reminder that you were not the President when the incident took place.

You were only a candidate. Big difference.

Concordejet April 15, 2017 at 4:07 PM

Dr. Jellyfish @ 28 Just laughing at you

Silvia @ 37 it cool I was laughing at Dr. Jellyfish so it fine.

KJ @ 40 I cannot imagine a 48th president who is a 70 years old baby always wanting to get his way. I hope Elizabeth Queen will tell him NO.

Silva April 15, 2017 at 4:58 PM

Whoopsy daisy! Little maniac couldn’t perform in public. That’ll upset this apple cart for sure;

The South Korean defence ministry said in a statement: ‘North Korea attempted to test an unidentified type of missile from Sinpo area in the South Hamgyong Province this morning, but we suspect the launch has failed.’

Aspirin April 15, 2017 at 6:13 PM

Keep an eye on Trump. He could be the new Al Capone (sans machine gun), refusing to show his tax returns, populating his staff with former industry lobbyists, and refusing to allow the public to see the White House Visit Logs.

Republicans love this guy because he makes them look innocent in the corruption and lying depts.

L0cal April 15, 2017 at 7:42 PM

North Korean missile ‘blows up’ on test launch

Three years ago, President Barack Obama ordered Pentagon officials to step up their cyber and electronic strikes against North Korea’s missile program in hopes of sabotaging test launches in their opening seconds.

Soon a large number of the North’s military rockets began to explode, veer off course, disintegrate in midair and plunge into the sea. Advocates of such efforts say they believe that targeted attacks have given American antimissile defenses a new edge and delayed by several years the day when North Korea will be able to threaten American cities with nuclear weapons launched atop intercontinental ballistic missiles.

Thanks Obama.

Atticus Thraxx April 15, 2017 at 7:56 PM

What kinda losers have time to protest and counter protest and counter-counter protest the Marmalade Menace? Go have a life people, he doesn’t give a sh*t about you unless you’re rich. Or have a pu&&y he can grab.

Aspirin April 15, 2017 at 9:08 PM

We are becoming a Third World political sewer, thanks to the GOP and its puppeteer Trump.

In approximately four years we will have to fumigate the White House, or build a new one.

Aspirin April 15, 2017 at 9:11 PM

2017 makes Alice in Wonderland seem like nonfiction.

Dr. Jellyfinger April 15, 2017 at 9:38 PM

Golly…. isn’t it a shame we aren’t all as intelligent as Aspirin?
Us poor knuckle draggers (2 words – not one?!!!) are just too stupid to see the error of our ways.

Aspirin, help Concordejet along…. will you please?

Hmm ? April 15, 2017 at 9:44 PM

“Let’s keep score … We kill 94. ISIS kills 33 in Syria and 22 in Iraq, and 44 in Egypt.. Are we winning ?”

Can’t use 21st Century diplomacy or apologizing and bowing to defeat religious fanatics operating on a 13th Century mentality.

Russia’s response worked. 1986
“The KGB has adopted novel, brutal and apparently effective methods of dealing with terrorists who attack Soviet interests in the Middle East, an Israeli newspaper reported Monday.

The Jerusalem Post said the Soviet secret police last year secured the release of three kidnaped Soviet diplomats in Beirut by castrating a relative of a radical Lebanese Shia Muslim leader, sending him the severed organs and then shooting the relative in the head.” …

“The KGB has adopted novel, brutal and apparently effective methods of dealing with terrorists who attack Soviet interests in the Middle East, an Israeli newspaper reported Monday.

The Jerusalem Post said the Soviet secret police last year secured the release of three kidnaped Soviet diplomats in Beirut by castrating a relative of a radical Lebanese Shia Muslim leader, sending him the severed organs and then shooting the relative in the head.

The incident began when four Soviet diplomats were kidnaped last September by Muslim extremists who demanded that Moscow pressure the Syrian government to stop pro-Syrian militiamen from shelling rival Muslim positions in the northern Lebanese city of Tripoli.

The militiamen, the Jerusalem paper said, did not cease their attacks, and the body of one of the Soviet diplomats, Arkady Katkov, was found a few days later in a field in Beirut.

The KGB then apparently kidnaped and killed a relative of an unnamed leader of the Shias’ Hezbollah (Party of God) group, a radical, pro-Iranian group that has been suspected of various terrorist activities against Western targets in Lebanon.

Parts of the man’s body, the paper said, were then sent to the Hezbollah leader with a warning that he would lose other relatives in a similar fashion if the three remaining Soviet diplomats were not immediately released. They were quickly freed.”

Only when reprisal for terrorism is too terrible to risk will it stop.

Dr. Jellyfinger April 15, 2017 at 9:54 PM

The whole argument about who is smart & who is stupid is really pointless in the Politics thread…. the actual smart people realize that posting here is just a waste of time, so they don’t bother.
You can’t have an intelligent exchange of ideas with people who are too partisan to weigh an argument.
It’s just a place to take pot shots at one another…. OK?
So let’s stick to that! I’m enjoying it.

anon April 16, 2017 at 4:24 AM

Donald Trump will speak at National Rifle Association’s 2017 Leadership Forum

anon April 16, 2017 at 4:48 AM

“By any means necessary,” the hallmark words of a despot. They are always front and center at any liberal protest, be it Black Lives Matter or an anti-Trump clash. “By any means necessary,” … the tyranny of the leftwing distilled into four words. Trump supporters should be able to march and assemble to show their support for the President, just as women marched on Washington DC to demonstrate their dismay. Liberals who are interfering with Trump supporters demonstrations are denying Trump supporters their Constitutional rights … to Assemble, for one. How remarkably ironic that a group who claims to be so “inclusive,” “diverse,”open-minded,” is so threatened by ideas that they become violent and harass to stifle the opposition. “Free speach,” but only if you agree with them.

Aspirin April 16, 2017 at 7:58 AM

“Who paid for the tax rallies” the Liar-In-Chief wants to know.

“Who paid” doesn’t matter. The message matters and this is why the Liar-In-Chief” wants to change the subject.

The purpose of the rallies, as a reminder, is to protest the Liar-In-Chief refusing to disclose his tax information. First he said he was “being audited” as an excuse. Then he said he would reveal them “later”. Now, he will not reveal them at all.

This guy is slicker than Nixon.

Aspirin April 16, 2017 at 8:02 AM

Re: Hmm # 72: The Soviets didn’t resort to dropping huge bombs. Rather, they opted for the effective ways to deal with terrorists.

Aspirin April 16, 2017 at 8:17 AM

Trump is effectively dividing our country. I would hope that was not his aim when he decided to run for office but that is the unfortunate result.

A true test of leadership is to rally all Americans to lessen the political, economic, educational, and financial divide that plagues many parts of the USA.

Sealing off the White House from public access to visiting records is not a good way to start.
Refusing to reveal tax information is not a good way to start.
Accusing Obama of wiretapping is not a good way to start.
Denigrating climate science as a “Chinese plot” is not a good way to start.
Staffing your advisory group with lobbyists and industry lackeys is not a good way to start.

Mr. President, get busy. You have much to repair.

Mark April 16, 2017 at 8:26 AM

Democrats don’t want America to be great again.

They want everybody out of work, on welare.

A weak military.

And wide open borders.

They don’t care how much damage they do to this country, what is important to them is to increase their voting base and stay in power.

Too bad for them everybody is on to them and they continue to lose support.

Keep up the good work idiots

anon April 16, 2017 at 9:19 AM

Maxine Waters Doesn’t Appear To Know How Electoral College Works.
(The photo of a crazed woman is worth it, all by itself.)

Silva April 16, 2017 at 10:02 AM

Dr. Jellyfinger #69, Shushsh!!

anon April 16, 2017 at 10:23 AM

The Liberal Lies. Transgender research has it’s foundation in lies perpetrated by the doctor who first performed transgender surgery, and research on the outcomes are impaired by the fact that up to 90% of those obtaining surgery are lost to followup to determine if it was successful. Regrets among those who have had the surgery is common, but in most cases it is a not an easy task to reverse it. These are the issues you don’t hear about.

Research Claiming Benefits Of Sex Change Based On Junk Science

Transgender Regret Is Real Even If The Media Tells You Otherwise

Report Debunks “Born That Way” Narrative And Transgender Label For Kids

Silva April 16, 2017 at 10:46 AM

Aspirin April 16, 2017 at 8:17 AM;

“Trump is effectively dividing our country. I would hope that was not his aim when he decided to run for office but that is the unfortunate result.”

His aim was to become an actual billionaire. And play a lot of golf.

Aspirin April 16, 2017 at 11:03 AM

If we can spend billions of dollars on bombs we can spend billions on healthcare.

Medicare for all !

Now !

anon April 16, 2017 at 12:48 PM

Our President, Donald Trump is going to Make America Great Again, in spite of liberal lugnuts. #MAGA

Deplorable April 16, 2017 at 1:34 PM

How do you blame Trump for dividing the country whilst the losing candidate and the entire democratic party for that matter scream RESIST?

Deplorable April 16, 2017 at 1:42 PM

Baffled at the site of law enforcement protecting anarchists screaming funk the police while attacking blue lives matter supporters….

Silva April 16, 2017 at 1:56 PM

“Donald Trump waving from the Queen’s royal carriage is not a scenario many would have foreseen a year ago, but it has become a very real prospect, forcing security services to plan an unprecedented lockdown. The White House has made clear it regards the carriage procession down the Mall as an essential element of the itinerary for the visit currently planned for the second week of October, according to officials. Security sources have warned, however, that the procession will require a “monster” security operation, far greater than for any recent state visit.”

Does anyone know who gets the bill for DT’s security service and measures as he makes the ride down the mall in the Queen’s golden ceremonial carriage? Is it them or us?

Aspirin April 16, 2017 at 3:25 PM

Remember this ? “Affordable health insurance for everyone” was Trump’s campaign promise, and the new insurance would be put in place “immediately”.

Now, because the GOP cannot craft a workable insurance plan Trump tried to blame the Democrats. Well, everyone saw through that lie so now he is threatening to take apart the ACA if the Democrats don’t come to his rescue and to help him put together a healthcare plan.

It won’t work because the GOP controls Congress and the GOP will NEVER allow a Democratic plan.

Our healthcare is threatened by the spoiled child in the White House because the GOP took away his toy.

Deplorable April 16, 2017 at 3:49 PM

“I will sign a universal health care bill into law by the end of my first term as president that will cover every American and cut the cost of a typical family’s premium by up to $2,500 a year.” – Obama 2008

Liars. All of them. Wake up.

MAGA April 16, 2017 at 4:00 PM

Donald Trump has been working hard to create jobs and build up our military.

Democrats are wasting time righting laws to allow men in the little girls restrooms, wide open borders, flooding our country with islamic terrorist.

Hmm ? April 16, 2017 at 8:14 PM

If democrats are such good leaders and managers how is it 10 largest cities with highest rates of poverty and crime are run by democrats.
Here’s just a few
“Newark, N.J., hasn’t had a GOP mayor in more than a century.”
“Both Baltimore and Oakland had Republican mayors as late as the 1960s.”
“The last GOP mayor of Philadelphia left office in 1952.”
“St. Louis has been electing Democratic mayors since 1949.”
“Chicago’s last GOP mayor was elected in 1927.”
“Detroit last elected a Republican mayor in 1957.”

How Flint, Michigan Became The Most Dangerous City In America

“Democrats in order to win historically need 90 to 92 percent of the black vote.” …
“Let this sink in slowly. Ensuring that Democrats continue to receive black votes in a monolithic block, it is in their interest for blacks to remain poor and resentful …”

Ben Carson: Black Dependence on Democrats Has Meant ‘Poverty and Broken Homes and Crime and Incarceration’
Democrats Run Every Major City Which Is a Poverty Center

Since obama and democrats are out of power ……… isn’t it strange …
haven’t had alphabet networks spending hours of broadcast time covering (instigating) race riots or blacks shot by white Police or blocking freeways.
But not to worry all that will all happen again when democrats run for office especially right before 2020 presidential elections.

“Ensuring that Democrats continue to receive black votes in a monolithic block, it is in their interest for blacks to remain poor and resentful …”

Hmm ? April 16, 2017 at 9:09 PM

Aspirin Dropping MOAB equivalent to 11 Tons of TNT allowed President Trump to put those who might want to do us harm around the world
the wimp is no longer our president.×425.jpg
note: Russians have ATB (Aviation Thermobaric Bomb) air burst weapon equivalent to 44 Tons of TNT.

Russians rarely publicize what their special operators do unlike what the mirror worshiping obama after bin laden raid. Only reason 1986 operation became public was Israeli intelligence and media picked up on it.

If you wish to educate yourself did a little research in addition to what already had bookmarked.

“Rather, they opted for the effective ways to deal with terrorists.”
An you are correct sending back people in pieces gets terrorist’s attention. In Russia if a family does not turn in a family member they knew might commit a terrorist attack they are held accountable.
‘Russia: Collective Responsibility for Acts of Terrorism’
‘Russia Shows What Happens When Terrorists’ Families Are Targeted’

During obama administration number of terrorists increased and area they controlled increased. After hillary talked obama into attacking Libya with no plan for after the country fell terrorists were able to loot massive amounts of weapons from Libyan munitions warehouses. All the while obama claimed all was well.
‘Obama says Islamic State on the run, despite attacks around globe’

Aspirin April 16, 2017 at 10:59 PM

Trump will need Russian support to win in 2020.

He had better treat Putin nice.

Aspirin April 16, 2017 at 11:02 PM

Hmm #91: Obama authorized the use of the MOAB in 2016 and the generals would decide when to use it.

This was proper leadership on Obama’s part to let the military do its job.

Aspirin April 16, 2017 at 11:06 PM

The ACA, with all of its faults, is still the best bet other than Medicare.

Thank you Obama.

The GOP ought to put up or shut up.

Aspirin April 16, 2017 at 11:11 PM

Since Trump took office a large number of ISIS bombings and terrorist attacks have occurred.

Add up the dead for 2017 and it is shocking indeed.

Trump cannot seem to keep a team together or to formulate a consistent policy on anything. This gives the terrorists hope.

Susan Gorman April 17, 2017 at 7:37 AM

And this is EXACTLY why NOTHING is being accomplished!

Probably 95%+ of the people posting on this politics blog are interested ONLY in taking potshots at the “other side.” NOBODY is willing to have a sane and rational discussion, and it’s degenerated into personal insults from BOTH sides. BOTH sides continue to throw around quotes supporting their opinions, as if those quotes contain any factual information.

Let me ask you – how in hell do you think ANYTHING will be accomplished if all you’re doing is sniping at each other from behind a keyboard? Does that make you feel particularly brave? Do you think that whatever you post makes you appear smart to others? You can blame anyone you want – but the point is you’re not willing to learn. You take your party’s tag lines and throw them out there as if they’re facts. You don’t do your own research. That makes YOU appear the fool, as it looks like NONE of you have mopved past the “nyah, nyah” phase of your poor wretched lives.

Unfortunately, this attitude (from BOTH sides) is doing NOTHING to solve the problem. Say what you want, but remember – until you DO anything to solve the problem, you’re not DOING one damn thing. And I don’t mean “writing your legislators” or some such nebulous action…. I mean DOING something – getting out and getting involved – face to face. And don’t tell me you don’t have enough time. With the number of posts I’ve seen on this blog, there are quite a few people who have LOTS of free time.

Mr. Mayor, I salute you in your willingness to provide a system that allows people to express their opinions – but they’ve obviously all forgotten the third sentence at the politics blog header – which states “…be kind to each other.” They’ve all forgotten how to be civil, and simply take the easy way out.

I fear for this country (and state). We’re doomed as a society, unless you get off your collective asses and DO something.

Have a nice day.

Aspirin April 17, 2017 at 7:59 AM

“The super Liberal Democrat in the Georgia Congressioal [sic] race tomorrow wants to protect criminals, allow illegal immigration and raise taxes!” Trump tweeted.

Fake news (lies) trying to destroy a Democratic candidate.

Trump used this same tactic during his campaign. It worked on the knuckledraggers.

PEGASUS April 17, 2017 at 9:00 AM

@ Susan Gorman –
One positive use of this site is that it provides a few lunatic liberals a venue to vent their insanity here rather than commit actual violence against innocent people who may have opinions that do not comply with the liberal agenda.

Just have a look around at all the violent attacks by so called peace loving liberals on innocent conservatives who try to have peaceful rallies, . This weekend’s atrocities at U.C. Berkeley are a perfect example of the evil and violent lunatic liberals.

Your point is well taken but it’s the lunatic liberals who need to be controlled. Conservatives, by nature, are not violent they are simply conservative. They believe change should be done by vote, not by the extreme violence we have seen in the streets and college campuses.

PEGASUS April 17, 2017 at 9:23 AM

Aspirin –
If there is anything FAKE it’s you and the constant lies and propaganda you dump on this site. I have proven you a liar no less than six times yet you still ignore the truth. What’s wrong with you? Were you at the rally at U.C Berkeley?
Tone down the hate, please.

L0cal April 17, 2017 at 9:58 AM

Pegasus thinks it’s the liberals fault that out-of-state right-wing extremest planned the violence in Berkely during the well known tax march.

Stewart Rhodes, founder of the citizen militia group known as the Oath Keepers, said he came from Montana with about 50 others to protect Trump supporters. They were joined by bikers and others who vowed to fight members of an anti-fascist group if they crossed police barricades. “I don’t mind hitting” the counter-demonstrators, Rhodes said. “In fact, I would kind of enjoy it.”,amp.html

Pegasus ignores the fact that Trump himself is being sued for invoking violence at his rallies.

Donald Trump sued for inciting violence at his campaign rallies

Trump Supporter Accused of Assaulting Woman at Campaign Rally Blames President

There are reasons the term “right-wing extremist” invokes the idea of violence, whereas “peace loving liberal” does not.

Dr. Jellyfinger April 17, 2017 at 10:34 AM

@ Susie #96 ~ You are mostly correct, but if you think anything will be accomplished, any problems solved or actions inspired by anybody on the Politics Column you are woefully mistaken.
It’s just a buncha people sounding off.
People who actually want to make a difference go places and do things.
The only e-mails they send might be to mobilize with others to do volunteer work or fund raising for worthy causes.
This place is just for partisan sniping and taking pot shots at each other..
So go away & let us keep at it!

Silva April 17, 2017 at 10:41 AM

Ever since his plan to finance a tax cut for the rich by throwing millions off Medicaid died without a vote, Trump has repeatedly assured the American people that their health-care system will collapse under his watch. It hasn’t always been clear whether this sentiment was intended as a prediction of an event Trump (wrongly) believed to be inevitable — or as a promise to bring Obamacare down by any means necessary.

But in a new interview with The Wall Street Journal, the president essentially confesses to the latter intention — and he has already settled on a means of sabotage.

Susan Gorman April 17, 2017 at 10:43 AM

I will grant that the violence is being pushed primarily by the left; at least I haven’t personally seen the same level of physical anger (riots, looting, shouting down, etc…) from the conservatives.

I think Berkeley is in its own universe. The police are expected to protect life and property – yet they’ve been restrained by the political entities who have hired them, presumably allowing “free speech.” Yes, we’ve seen more violent demonstrations being conducted by leftists (especially in large cities) coompared to those of a conservative bent.

That being said, though, I do try to avoid generalizations – not fully successful, and nopbody can claim they’re completely unbiased. It’s no different than “teenage drivers are bad drivers.” The outliers get the media attention – and 1% of bad news will override the 99% of good news, simply because bad news sells. And I think the media thrives on sensationalism, and they feed the populace that sensationalism. The people eat that up and demand more of it. What other “civilized” country eats up the garbage you see on TV?

Enough for now.

Mad Cow April 17, 2017 at 10:43 AM

Kim Jong-Un is a shining beacon of righteousness. He actually uses the BEST tactics, so take heart and lock step. Blame blame BLAME. All the best anarchists know this. Get to work. Blame is your shield. Confusion the catalyst. Winning is not an option.

PEGASUS April 17, 2017 at 10:53 AM

A small group of people showed up at U.C. Berkeley to defend conservatives in case the lunatic liberals became violent AGAIN. Sure enough the lunatics got violent.
Local views that as aggression by conservatives.

Local then, in the standard liberal attempt to redirect the dialog, posts more leftist propaganda.

Hmm ? April 17, 2017 at 10:53 AM

@PEGASUS Yup and most of them are more bizarre and incoherent than pelosi, maxine waters and schumer put together. All examples of why human cloning must remain illegal.

Silva April 17, 2017 at 11:36 AM

Susan Gorman, Sorry to hear you don’t like the way this thread functions, probably nobody’s 100% happy with it, and yes, the “be kind to each other” admonition is disregard with great frequency. Besides expressing your utter dissatisfaction with BOTH sides, do you have suggestions as to what we all should do instead? You say you think writing our legislators “or some such nebulous action” is not doing anything. How do you suggest our legislators hear what we want them to do, or to not do? Should they just guess? It’s actually a VERY effective way to let them know what our concerns are and we want. They can sometimes also be reached by telephone but writing, emailing, etc. is NOT “some nebulous action”. That is DOING something! Because it’s your opinion is that it isn’t does not make it true. Our legislators absolutely take into account what they hear from us. They want and need to know what side their bread is buttered on.

Some of us post MANY verifiable facts from reputable sources, and we also post links to those sources. We may not get it right 100% all the time, and when we miss we are called on the carpet, but we do try. If anyone cares to investigate what we post they are certainly free to do so, and they may learn something they didn’t know. That is doing something!

The mayor seems okay with the thread, as he’s been graciously offering this platform for many years now. We are not ALL trolls on a blog. Everyone does what they are able to. What do you do?

Have a nice day.

Silva April 17, 2017 at 12:57 PM

Susan Gorman, for you; All the times Trump has called for violence at his rallies (as of March 12, 2016) you know ’cause “the violence is being pushed primarily by the left”.

Silva April 17, 2017 at 1:05 PM

President Donald Trump recounted an absolutely astounding detail about one of his conversations with Chinese President Xi Jinping in comments published by the Wall Street Journal on Wednesday afternoon. Apparently, Trump came into his first meeting with the Chinese leader, in early April, convinced that China could simply eliminate the threat posed by North Korea’s nuclear program. Xi then patiently explained Chinese-Korean history to Trump — who then promptly changed his mind.“After listening for 10 minutes, I realized it’s not so easy,” the president told the Journal. “I felt pretty strongly that they had a tremendous power [over] North Korea. … But it’s not what you would think.”

Four quick observations about this:
1) Trump thought China could fix North Korea until the Chinese president politely informed him that North Korea is in fact complicated.
2) Trump seems to have required the leader of China to explain basic facts to him that he could have Googled, or at least asked one of the many US government North Korea experts about.
3) Trump came to a profound realization about one of the most dangerous conflicts on earth after a 10-minute conversation.
4) Trump is getting his information about East Asian affairs from the leader of America’s largest rival in the region.

PEGASUS April 17, 2017 at 2:36 PM

Silva, Silva, Silva, where have you been? It was well known then and it’s well known now (at least to those whose attention span is longer than a minute) that the ACA would require huge inputs of money to keep it afloat by 2017.
Obama and his criminal minions planned it exactly that way to ensure that the worst of possible scenarios fell upon the next administration while obama and his smarmy crew slithered away laughing at the poor fools who supported him.
The ACA is a scam used by democrats to fool voters.

PEGASUS April 17, 2017 at 2:46 PM

Another Common Core moron un-teaching the children –

Why a 7-Year-Old Girl Got in Trouble For Writing Her Name in Cursive.

Dr. Jellyfinger April 17, 2017 at 2:56 PM
Aspirin April 17, 2017 at 3:34 PM

This is a reminder that healthcare is not free. An open heart operation is commonly billed at over $400,000.

Do we whine when million dollar missiles are used in attacking villages? Do we whine when billions are being spent to get us to Mars?

Stop whining about the ACA costs. Without it we would be paying MUCH more.

PEGASUS April 17, 2017 at 3:56 PM

Aspirin, you have ABSOLUTELY NO IDEA what healthcare would cost without the ACA! Mine was a hell of a lot less before.
I’ll count this as another of your numerous lies.

Atticus Thraxx April 17, 2017 at 5:26 PM

Not a good sign when the President’s mail order bride from ‘Whatchafuqueistan’ has to remind him:

Dr. Jellyfinger April 17, 2017 at 5:51 PM

To all the red blooded, conservative Americans who post here, I’d like to say Happy Patriot’s Day!

To all the lefty liberals who post here,
well…. I’ll give you comrades a shout out on May 1st.

Silva April 17, 2017 at 10:23 PM

DT’s tax reform agenda is in trouble. That’s not news, but one proposal that his team has floated as a way, ostensibly, to cut taxes on the middle class is. According to the Associated Press, they’re toying with the idea of eliminating the payroll tax, which funds Social Security and part of Medicare, or cutting it drastically.

This is an absolutely terrible idea, partially because it smells like a back-door way of cutting Social Security benefits. It needs to be nipped in the bud.

“This proposal is a Trojan horse,” the veteran Social Security advocate Nancy J. Altman told me. “It appears to be a gift in the form of middle-class tax relief, but would, if enacted, lead to the destruction of working Americans’ fundamental economic security.”

To understand why, one needs to examine the history and mechanics of Social Security, something the Trump team hasn’t tried or doesn’t care to do. But we can.

Aspirin April 17, 2017 at 10:30 PM

“During his first interview as president, Trump explained the importance of Fox News to his agenda, saying that evidence and facts don’t matter as long as Fox News hosts and the network’s “very smart” viewers agree with him.”

Bingo !

anon April 17, 2017 at 10:47 PM

Someone picked up a map of the United States and shook it and all the nuts (read libtards) rolled to California. A California resident since 2006 from Buffalo, NY, Louis Marinelli is getting help from the Anti-Globalization Movement in Russia to further his Calexit plans.

Calexit Craziness

anon April 18, 2017 at 5:36 AM

@Atticus Thraxx

Yep, and using that logic, Trumpophobes might actually be hidden Trumpophiles.

anon April 18, 2017 at 5:38 AM

@Atticus Thraxx

Using that logic, Trumpophobes might actually be hidden Trumpophiles. Doesn’t work that way, Skippy.

Anon. April 18, 2017 at 7:09 AM

@aspirin #98 – so where’s the savings that I was told I would be seeing with the implementation of the ACA? I have heard of NOBODY saving any money.

And the liberals scream “let’s pass it so we can see what’s in it.”

And don’t try to equate “million-dollar missles” with a heart operation. A missle cost can range between ~$200K and ~$1.5 million – so that would get you anywhere between 1/2 to 4 open heart operations.

What’s your point? You cannot compare apples with asparagus – just because they both begin with the letter “a” doesnt’ mean they’re comparable.

Aspirin April 18, 2017 at 7:35 AM

Calexit is a fluke, an aberration, fiction, fantasy, perhaps a joke.

Not worth worrying about.

Aspirin April 18, 2017 at 8:48 AM

Anon # 112 misses the point completely.

Simply put: If we can spend $billions killing people we can certainly find ways to spend $billions on health care.

Aspirin April 18, 2017 at 8:52 AM

GOP crying about healthcare cost is a false concern. The money is there. They don’t have the will or the intelligence to use it.

Republicans have not been very good in the smarts department (this explains the success of Faux News) so something as complicated as health care is not going to be well managed as long as the GOP is in charge.

anon April 18, 2017 at 11:09 AM

@Aspirin 116

Liberals were the scatterbrains blindsided by “fake news.” They were convinced by the media that Hillary and her cadre of leftwing lugnuts would be running the country with the motto, “Doilies On Every Chair.” Conservatives knew better. We feel bad for you libtards that you got bilked by you ilk. Seems like you’d have some kind of honor among thieves. We elected a guy who knows hiw to deal with that bologny. Our President, Donald Trump, making America great, again, one day at a time. #MAGA

Silva April 18, 2017 at 11:56 AM is our conclusion that the Comey letter, 11 days before the election, was the precipitating event behind Clinton’s loss, despite the letter being effectively retracted less than a week later. In such a close election, there may have been dozens of factors whose absence would have reversed the outcome, such as the influence campaign of the Russian government as detailed by US intelligence services. But the sudden change in the political conversation after the Comey letter suggest it was the single, most indispensable factor in the surprise election result.

This conclusion helps us to understand how it is possible that the polls were generally correct about a Clinton lead through most of the campaign, but nevertheless Trump still won because of a late October surprise. In other words, pollsters and the media were likely correct that Clinton was “winning” during most of the campaign.

Color graph in the article.

anon April 18, 2017 at 12:12 PM

Democrsts are disoriented and disillusioned as their “party” attempts to restructure with Sander’s proclaimed socialist agenda embarking on the “Unity Tour.” Good luck convincing working-class America to “share their wealth.” Democrats still don’t get it.

Chicken Little April 18, 2017 at 12:19 PM

I have yet to find a single person who changed their vote based on that letter. So, it’s my conclusion that the article you’re quoting is a load of crap.

anon April 18, 2017 at 12:19 PM

Hillary’s loss had everything to do with Hillary, and the knuckleheads running the Democrat “party.” Democrats, however, in their spoiled-child-hissy-fit fashion are still looking for somebody else to blame.

Original G April 18, 2017 at 12:49 PM

A couple of actions which help both illegal immigration, sanctuary problem and begin making Congress again responsive to Americans rather than catering to special interests who provide them campaign contributions.

First change how Census data is used to increase seats in US House of Representatives and State Legislatures by counting ONLY those persons born here or those who have become citizens.
Second setting term limits for US Senate at two six year terms and three two year terms in US House of Representatives.

Silva, Clinton’s loss in my view was a result of 8 years of Obama and a candidate many viewed as both arrogant and somehow believing she was above the law. Her defeat is continuation of an anti Democrat trend that has really picked up speed since 2009.

Democrats have lost a total of 1,042 seats at state and federal levels. The Presidency, seats in both houses of congress, seats in state legislators and governorships since 2009.

Probably never will understand inability of an overwhelming number of Democrat politicians at federal level who steadfastly refuse to acknowledge their behaviors as cause for negative outcomes who then blame others.

My opinion, Respect is not deserved for those who lie to me or fail to accept responsibility for results caused by their actions.

Silva April 18, 2017 at 12:54 PM

Did The Media Help Donald Trump Win? $5 Billion In Free Advertising Given To President-Elect

A Beginner’s Guide to the Trump/Russia Controversy ://

Silva April 18, 2017 at 12:55 PM

Whoops! A Beginner’s Guide to the Trump/Russia Controversy

Silva April 18, 2017 at 1:12 PM

Original G, I’m not standing up for the Democrats and all the mistakes they made, or Hillary and her arrogance. If there’s one thing I can’t stand it’s arrogance. However, if it was arrogance people were really worried about, I’m still shaking my head on that The notion that Trump won fair and square is just plain silly. It was brought up a bit earlier on in the thread today, and I’m just here to remind those who feel cocky about it. It is seemingly moot for now, and we can only hope for the best.

anon April 18, 2017 at 1:13 PM

It’s a secret ballot. Who walks out from a secret ballot and tells some dingleberry conducting a poll the truth, especially in light of the way libtards treat those who disagree with them? Did they want to get beat up as they left? It’s a secret ballot! For a reason. There was no “October surprise.” Hillary lost the election with her ugly pantsuits and her philandering husband … and, an assistant married to a man who seemed to thrive on exposing himself … inappropriately. Birds of a feather. The whole kit and caboodle were tainted, and Obama’s lopsided Presidency changed the way Americans think … hopefully for the duration. Your “party” sucked!

Strad April 18, 2017 at 1:52 PM

You want free advertising talk to the media. What’s so hard about that?

anon April 18, 2017 at 2:03 PM

Donald Trump won the election because he was the candidate the country wanted:

Aspirin April 18, 2017 at 4:08 PM

Re: Anon #129: Trump lost the popular vote by almost 3,000,000 LEGAL votes.

The country wanted Hillary, not some tinhorn liar who can’t keep track of his positions from day to day.

Silva April 18, 2017 at 4:43 PM

Throughout the Obama administration, any time President Obama golfed, some famous conservative pundit chimed in. It was a reliable punchline that consistently got a rise out of their base. In 2013 Sean Hannity tweeted, “Glad our arrogant Pres. is enjoying his taxpayer funded golf outing after announcing the US should take military action against Syria.” Just a few months earlier, Newt Gingrich tweeted (his misspellings not mine), “Trump and president obsma both golf but trump doesn’t charge the taxpayers $920,000 for a golf weekend in florida.” Neither of those tweets have aged well. Now it is Trump enjoying his taxpayer-funded golf outings after announcing military actions all over the world, including Syria. Now it’s Trump charging the taxpayers not $920,000 per golf outing in Florida, but reportedly much more. Suddenly, the costs of golfing don’t seem to offend Trump or Newt or Hannity anymore. And I sincerely, genuinely don’t think the problem is political. It’s racial.

anon April 18, 2017 at 4:47 PM

@Aspirin 132

Did you look at the map? If the country had wanted Hillary, Hillary would have won. The country voted for Trump. Trump is the person the country elected. All those red places are places that voted for Trump. The dsrk blue places are where the craziy people voted. The country elected Donald Trump President of the United States. Your “party” flopped! The chps were stale, the drinks were watered down, and who wants to listen to emo anyway? Actually, conservatives need to thank you all for showing us what not to do.

Original G April 18, 2017 at 5:32 PM

Silva Our founders in their great wisdom created the Electoral College Article II, Section 1, Clause 3 which was refined with The Twelfth Amendment by Congress in 1804. It prevents Presidential and Vice Presidential candidates from gaining office merely by winning in a few densely populated urban areas.

Map illustrates the point and wisdom of the Electoral College.
Counties where hillary won are in blue and counties where trump won are in red.

As to congress, Temper Tantrums by career politicians of both parties are pointless and detrimental to long term good of We The People and our Country. They need to grow up and start acting like mature responsible adults. There should also be mandatory mental competency evaluations for members of congress over age of 71 prior to a new congress convening.
There are members who can barely put three coherent sentences together when not reading from a script.

Was a fan of Bush senior his kid was a disappointment and obama was also a disappointment. World laughed at us for electing him a second time. Not sure about Trump yet but he did get China to refuse almost three million tons of N Korean coal. Chinese told ship captains to get out of their ports and take coal back to N Korea.

I’m giving it until Saturday afternoon to dry out some then it’s transplant time.

Original G April 18, 2017 at 5:37 PM

Silva that wasn’t a misspelling that was and outright huge DIG at obama.

Silva April 18, 2017 at 5:45 PM

Here’s some more maps; Lots of maps. Everywhere.

Silva April 18, 2017 at 5:53 PM
Silva April 18, 2017 at 6:10 PM

“He punched me on the bridge of my nose. It cut it a little bit,” Rosealma said. “I got thrown down and I’m pretty sure he just ran (away). I got right back up. I was punched twice more by two other people. People kept trying to throw me down to hit my head on the rocks that were in the planter. I was just trying to not get my skull cracked open.”he last attacker kneed her in the head several times before he also fled. Eventually, the attack stopped the 5-foot-1, 95-pound Rosealma said. She looked around and found her boyfriend nearby covered in blood. “There was no time for emotion,” she said. “I was just terrified. I didn’t have time to process what was happening to me. All I knew was I was trying to find my boyfriend and not get hit…When it was happening I realized they were trying to crack my skull on the curb and on the rocks in the planter. I didn’t exchange words with anyone,” she said. “I was just standing there.”

Silva April 18, 2017 at 6:19 PM

Original G (#136) I’m pretty sure it was.

Silva April 18, 2017 at 6:46 PM

“Donald Trump: if you are not cheating, if you are not indebted to interests that could compromise you…come on! Show the American people your taxes. We pay our taxes. We don’t hide from the government. We expect you to pay your taxes and stop hiding from the American people.”

JWB April 18, 2017 at 7:26 PM

@ anon #125

Here Einstein are the maps for 2008 and 2012 by county, according to your logic that means 1) McCain won in 2008 and Romney in 2012, or 2) maybe it just shows that you have no clue and keep parroting Breitbart news…..
My money is on 2)

Anon April 18, 2017 at 8:26 PM


Trump won according to the rules. That’s hy the electoral college exists,,,. So California and NY don’t decide the presidency.

For those whiners who are still claiming Hillary “won”, get over it. Yeah, Hillary won the popular vote….,so effing what?

That’s not how it works.

Get over it,losers! Or leave and go someplace you’ll be happier.

Anon April 18, 2017 at 8:45 PM

Overall Trump won approximately 2,600 counties to Clinton’s 500, or about 84% of the geographic United States. However, Clinton won 88 of of the 100 largest counties (including Washington D.C.). Without these 100 largest counties she would have lost by 11.5 million votes.

So Hillary won the popular vote, but she sure didn’t win the country’s vote. If so, she would have won more than a handful of populous counties.

So trump won. Deal with it.

Hmm ? April 18, 2017 at 9:27 PM

Wonder who we have to thank?
“Federal authorities have open investigations into radical Islamic terrorists in all 50 states, according to the Department of Homeland Security, which is warning that the threat of terrorism in the United States has reached an all time high with radicalized individuals in the country plotting to strike “each and every single day.”

The FBI has “open terrorist investigations in all 50 states,” according to DHS Secretary John Kelly, who disclosed on Tuesday that there have been at least 37 “ISIS-linked plots to attack our country” since 2013, a number that shows no signs of diminishing.”

An Interactive Timeline of Islamist Terror Plots Since 9/11
How many of the ones in obama years did the obama media never report on?

anon April 18, 2017 at 11:03 PM

@JWB 133

You’re just confused. The map @121 is from the New York Times election results. I rarely read Brietbart. Don’t know why you’d think I do. See Anon @135 for an explanation you might be able to understand, bozo. Here is the link to all the NY Times info. Donald Trump won. If you’re debating that you’re wasting my time.

anon April 18, 2017 at 11:17 PM

@123 Aspirin

That which we dislike the most in others, is that which we can not accept in ourselves. In other words, your constant accusations that President Trump is lying betrays your own inability to be truthful. Think about it. I’m not going to try to explain the Electoral College to you except to say as I did above, the country elected Donald Trump as President of the United States. If the country had wanted Hillary, Hillary would be President. She isn’t.

Anonymous April 19, 2017 at 6:49 AM

aspirin – Let me put it to you as simply as I can.

The country wanted Trump – that’s why he won. He won according to the RULES. The country DIDN’T want Hillary – that’s why she LOST. The president is NOT elected by the popular vote. Ever hear of the Electoral College?

You don’t get to change the rules just because you didn’t like the outcome.

I think #138 put it quite well.

Now deal with it. Go back to your corner.

Aspirin April 19, 2017 at 7:57 AM

Fox News popularity is rooted in the underbelly of American culture, attracting the uneducated, the undereducated, and those seeking opinion over truth.

This suits Trump perfectly. His campaign was based on lies, innuendo, racism, and an appeal to an angry mob.

Some consolation can be had by realizing that he lost the popular vote by almost 3,000,000 votes.

Even after winning the presidency he could not rise above his addiction to lying by claiming that “3,000,000 illegal aliens” were the voters.

Aspirin April 19, 2017 at 8:01 AM

#141: Let me present you with an interesting idea, and a possible enlightenment:

The popular vote matters a great deal and we are seeing its effects in close elections happening right now. Deep red states are seeing close races where there were none before.

And this is just the beginning.

Dr. Jellyfinger April 19, 2017 at 8:06 AM

So…. the alt left activist porn gal went “scalp hunting” at a violent rally & got punched in the smoocher by a Nazi bully boy…. BFD.
I’ll bet they wind up getting married.

Silva April 19, 2017 at 8:18 AM

We don’t yet know what role the Russians played in the election. Or why FBI Director James Comey publicly announced a reopening of the email investigation in late October. But we will.

Dr. Jellyfinger April 19, 2017 at 8:48 AM

Silva, this is getting sad.
Like Delta Dawn waiting at the bus station with her luggage everyday for that handsome man who said he’d come back for her.
There is no Russian Knight in shining armor coming back to gift us with some dynamic, damning evidence that Trump is actually Satan.
It ain’t happening.
After all this time, FBI say’s it’s got no evidence of any wrongdoing by anyone.
It was just a conjured excuse dreamed up by damage control Democrats as ammunition for Hillary to shoot wildly in the sky …..missing the mark with each shot.
Let it goooooooo!

Silva April 19, 2017 at 8:54 AM

April 6, 2017: Ivanka Trump and her husband, Jared Kushner, sit next to Chinese President Xi Jinping and his wife, Peng Liyuan, at a state dinner at Mar-a-Lago. That same day, China grants her company preliminary approval for three trademarks that confer monopoly rights to sell Ivanka brand jewelry, bags and spa services in the world’s second-largest economy.

And what did WE give China??

Silva April 19, 2017 at 8:59 AM

“Despite denying Defendant trademark protection for over ten years, including in a ruling from an appellate court, and despite China’s law barring the use of foreign leaders’ names as trademarks, China gave Defendant the trademark he had requested and valued,” states the amended complaint. “However, China only gave the trademark protection to Defendant after he had been elected President, questioned the One China policy, was sworn in, and re-affirmed the One China policy.”

It’s added that the trademarks have considerable value by giving the Trump Organization the sole right to profit from the Trump brand in China.

The complaint adds, “When asked why Defendant changed his position on the One China policy, and whether he had gotten something in exchange from China, White House Press Secretary Sean Spicer answered: ‘The President always gets something,’ but did not specify what concession was obtained from China.”

Silva April 19, 2017 at 9:03 AM

With the first reality television star sworn into the highest office in the land comes the first lawsuit challenging the receipt of foreign television royalties as an alleged violation of the U.S. Constitution.” As the Framers were aware, private financial interests can subtly sway even the most virtuous leaders, and entanglements between American officials and foreign powers could pose a creeping, insidious threat to the Republic,” states the complaint. “The Foreign Emoluments Clause was forged of the Framers’ hard-won wisdom. It is no relic of a bygone era, but rather an expression of insight into the nature of the human condition and the preconditions of self- governance. And applied to Donald J. Trump’s diverse dealings, the text and purpose of the Foreign Emoluments Clause speak as one: this cannot be allowed.”

Silva April 19, 2017 at 9:14 AM

It was a (red) star-studded affair, the December 2015 dinner celebrating the 10th birthday of Russian TV network RT. At a luxe Moscow hotel, President Vladimir Putin and a host of Russian luminaries toasted a state-backed news channel that U.S. intelligence calls a Kremlin mouthpiece. And next to Putin at the head table, in the seat of honor, was an American. Retired Lt. Gen. Michael Flynn, who would later become Donald Trump’s national security adviser, was already advising Trump’s presidential campaign when he was paid $45,000 to speak at the gala. “It is not coincidence that Flynn was placed next to President Putin,” said Michael McFaul, U.S. ambassador in Moscow from 2012 to 2014 and now an NBC News analyst. “Flynn was considered a close Trump adviser. Why else would they want him there?” Flynn’s Moscow jaunt, like his oddly timed phone chats with the Russian ambassador, has been well reported. But who else came to dinner on Dec. 10, 2015? An NBC News review of video and photos from the RT gala shows a healthy serving of ex-spies, cronies and oligarchs, with a side of friendly journalists and another American.

Dr. Jellyfinger April 19, 2017 at 9:14 AM

@ 149 ~ Dinner

Silva April 19, 2017 at 9:26 AM

Remember when Kellyanne Conway turned a “news” segment into an infomercial for Ivanka’s wares? It worked! Trump fans ran out and bought her mass produced in CHINA products. MAGA!

Silva April 19, 2017 at 9:43 AM

When North Korea launched its Kwangmyongsong-4 satellite into space in February last year, officials heralded the event as a birthday gift for dead leader Kim Jong Il. But the day also brought an unexpected prize for the country’s adversaries: priceless intelligence in the form of rocket parts that fell into the Yellow Sea. Entire sections of booster rocket were snagged by South Korea’s navy and then scrutinized by international weapons experts for clues about the state of North Korea’s missile program. Along with motor parts and wiring, investigators discerned a pattern. Many key components were foreign-made, acquired from businesses based in CHINA. The trove “demonstrates the continuing critical importance of high-end, foreign-sourced components” in building the missiles North Korea uses to threaten its neighbors, a U.N. expert team concluded in a report released last month. When U.N. officials contacted the implicated Chinese firms to ask about the parts, the report said, they received only silence.

Silva April 19, 2017 at 11:14 AM

President Trump’s White House announced this week that it would not release the visitor logs to the public, contradicting Trump’s previous calls for a more transparent government.

Stephen Colbert and “The Late Show” have acquired a copy of the most recent visitor log.

Aspirin April 19, 2017 at 12:18 PM

Bill O’Reilly of Fox News has been enmeshed in controversy since the start of this month after The New York Times reported that five women have received payments coming to about $13 million in exchange for agreeing not to pursue litigation or speak about accusations.

O’Reilly has finally been fired.

Aspirin April 19, 2017 at 12:25 PM

It is reported that Trump drools over Fox News. With Bill O’Reilly gone, will Trump still watch Fox?

Trump’s alter ego will no longer be there to guide him in the matters of groping women.

PEGASUS April 19, 2017 at 12:44 PM

Okay………ya’ caught me…….I’m quaking in my thigh-high stilettos.
BTW Aspirin, will you be posting more lies today? My list is up to eight times I’ve outed you as a Big Fat Liar.

anon April 19, 2017 at 3:08 PM

What is your President, Donald Trump, doing today? This from The White House website:


Today, President Donald J. Trump will sign the Veterans Choice Program Extension and Improvement Act, ensuring our incredible veterans have certainty and continuity of care while the Administration works to deliver the VA reforms that are so desperately needed.

President Trump’s Daily Schedule


10:30AM: President Trump meets with Secretary of Veterans Affairs David Shulkin
11:30AM: President Trump signs S. 544 the Veterans Choice Program Extension and Improvement Act”

PEGASUS April 19, 2017 at 3:29 PM

Okay then…..there it is! All we need to do to chase away Silva is to refer to obama as an ape and that woman as a male.
I may have called him a few pet names but don’t remember using “ape”

Silva April 19, 2017 at 3:29 PM

House Republicans to troops: Pay for your own damn GI Bill!

Just like when Republicans talk about “family values” and then you find out they’ve been having secret sex meet-ups in airport bathrooms or abusing teenage boys, when conservatives say they “support the troops,” they usually mean they’re sending them overseas to fight for oil profits, but now it also means they’re taxing them for their own benefits.“Some politicians would rather make backroom deals than raise taxes or find other ways to support our troops as bombs continue to fall overseas.”

Silva April 19, 2017 at 5:22 PM

U.S. Aircraft Carrier Went In Wrong Direction For Days After White House Threat
“We have the best military people on Earth. And I will say this: He is doing the wrong thing,” Trump added, referring to Kim Jong Un. “We are sending an armada, very powerful. We have submarines, very powerful, far more powerful than the aircraft carrier” But Defense News pointed out on Tuesday that photos released by the U.S. Navy showed the aircraft carrier passing through the Sunda Strait in Indonesia, about 3,500 miles from the Korean Peninsula, last Saturday. It was moving away from North Korea when U.S. officials said it was moving toward the peninsula, the Times confirmed on Tuesday. CNN’s Jim Acosta tweeted that an administration official blamed the mix-up on a miscommunication . The White House did not immediately respond to a request for comment.

Silva April 19, 2017 at 5:32 PM

Bill O’Reilly: “Disheartening” To Exit Fox News “Due To Completely Unfounded Claims”

So FOX News paid out all those millions to various women all for nothing?

Silva April 19, 2017 at 6:29 PM

Fox News must be pretty stupid to pay five dishonest women 13 million dollars.

But if that’s not true, then a national journalist followed by millions of people is either a %*@$ LIAR, or too stupid to understand what sexual harassment is.

Randy April 19, 2017 at 6:56 PM

If fox news gets rid of Hannity they might become a real news network.

Hmm ? April 19, 2017 at 7:12 PM

huffington post?
With that kind of spin seat belt sign should be turned on.

“If the USS Carl Vinson strike group is heading to the Korean peninsula, it is taking its time.” April 18

‘Carl Vinson Strike Group departs Singapore for Western Pacific’ April 8

“The ships that make up the strike group are the aircraft carrier USS Carl Vinson (CVN 70) the guided missile destroyers USS Wayne E. Meyer (DDG 108) and USS Michael Murphy (DDG 112) and the guided missile cruiser USS Lake Champlain (CG 57).”

Aspirin April 19, 2017 at 7:22 PM

The science of cause and effect:

Trump is threatening H1 B visas.
The Dow is dropping.

Only 98,000 jobs added in March.

Coincidence ?

If Trump does not make good on his campaign promises (?), beware and keep a short position.

Aspirin April 19, 2017 at 7:30 PM

Almost 100 days in office and Trump has succeeded in creating chaos and division throughout the country.

God help us all – including Republicans.

PEGASUS April 19, 2017 at 7:33 PM

Ever heard of nuisance money? Cheaper to pay than a law suit. It happens all the time. Foul Al Sharpton, that smarmy crook, made a career of it.

Silva April 19, 2017 at 8:00 PM

Putin-linked think tank drew up plan to sway 2016 U.S. election – documents

Silva April 19, 2017 at 8:19 PM

Back in January Jeremy Scahill, the journalist who literally wrote the book on Blackwater, the notorious mercenary outfit, reported for the Intercept that Erik Prince, the company’s founder, was with Donald Trump and his family at Trump Tower on election night in November. That suggested a degree of intimacy between them that had not been previously revealed. Scahill went on to report that Prince had been advising the Trump team on defense and intelligence matters and had provided input about possible choices to head the Pentagon and the State Department. To anyone familiar with Prince and his history, this was an ominous sign. Blackwater personnel had been so tarnished by criminal activity during the Iraq War, including convictions for the murders of Iraqi civilians, including children, that Prince had to rename the company more than once and his personal reputation was shredded. Prince and his family have had a long association with Vice President Mike Pence, however, through mutual religious and political affiliations based on a militant theocratic worldview. Prince and his sister Betsy DeVos, now the secretary of education, were big donors to Trump’s campaign. Considering that Trump’s knowledge of world affairs can barely fill a shot glass, seeing Prince among his inner circle of advisers is unnerving to say the least….

anon April 19, 2017 at 10:00 PM

Stop Obsessing Over Hillary Clinton. It’s Pointless.

Or so says Jeet Heer in New Republic. Citing an article by Andrew Sullivan in New York magazine who calls Hillary Clinton “The worst candidate for president in recent history,” Heer urges Democrats to acknowledge that Hillary Clinton no longer matters.

anon April 19, 2017 at 10:16 PM

@Randy 173

There was more in the afternoon, but I wanted to know what he did today to #MAGA and I felt signing S. 544, the Veterans Choice Program Extension and Improvement Act, qualified in that regard. His schedule is posted daily, and I’m assuming this shows only the public matters. He likely meets all day with various people on any number of issues.

Dr. Jellyfinger April 19, 2017 at 10:54 PM

Geez…. O’Riley could have learned a thing or two from Bill Clinton!

mtzman April 19, 2017 at 11:26 PM

Uh, $13,000,000 (that we know of) is not “nuisance money.”

anon April 20, 2017 at 1:39 AM

@Aspirin 177

And, what is your problem with the lying accusations. It’s effing pathological. It’s also slanderous, so STFU. I know women who became conservatives AFTER an abortion. They were so guilt ridden they litrrally “came to God.” Abortions have been much too easy to obtain for years now. No, I don’t have statistics, however, the probability is that my observations are correct. Don’t speak to me, again. You’re on restriction.

anon April 20, 2017 at 1:46 AM

U.S. residency through immigration law loophole

Close to 700 potential terorists have used a loophole in immigration policy to enter the US without thorough vetting.

Anon. April 20, 2017 at 8:36 AM

@aspirin 176…

You know nothing of statistics.

Ever hear of the phrase “correlation does not equal causation?”

I thought not.

Go back to playing doctor or “working with surgeons” or whatever you’re claiming this week. You can continue whining and crying as you sit in the corner, rocking back and forth.

Don’t forget your meds, Dr Alzheimer…..

PEGASUS April 20, 2017 at 9:26 AM

Divide that 12 mil by 5 women and their blood-thirsty lawyers and you get ‘nuisance money”. Sure, that’s big bucks to the average schmo but it’s chump change to the media outlets, compared to a court battle. That’s the way it’s done. As I stated earlier; Foul Al Sharpton made a career of it.
BTW, I’m not defending O’Riley, I think he can be a real A/Hole but I haven’t read anything stating he did more than use language. Yet the leftist media has branded him as a sexual predator.
It was the sponsors pulling out that caused the separation. Again, it’s about the money, not what he did or didn’t do. I heard he got a contract buy-out for 20 mil.
I hate to think of what YOU might do for 20 mil.
Look for him on another network in six months.

Silva April 20, 2017 at 9:32 AM

The Republicans’ Porn Problem

Studies find a higher rate of porn use specifically amongst the conservative and religious — those less likely to support comprehensive sex education, birth control, and reproductive justice. Research shows that high levels of religiosity and conservatism are correlated with significant rates of porn use in Utah and other states across the nation, presenting a curious rhetoric and reality gap. The Public Religion Research Institute finds that 66 percent of Americans think watching pornography is immoral, but moral objection to porn does not stop people from watching. To that end, a 2013 Time magazine headline humorlessly stated that “12 Percent of Americans Admit to Watching Porn Online, the Other 88 Percent Must Not Have Internet.” As Time further explains, “bashful survey respondents” probably diminished the total number of people self-reporting their online porn habits. In the case of the Republican platform, this bashfulness — or what some might call shame — has emerged to create a platform based on moral panic rather than sound evidence…. continued;

Silva April 20, 2017 at 9:38 AM

Sarah Palin finally managed to make her way into the Oval Office.

He meets all day with various people on any number of important issues.

Silva April 20, 2017 at 10:13 AM

Exxon Mobil Corp. has applied to the Treasury Department for a waiver from U.S. sanctions on Russia in a bid to resume its joint venture with state oil giant PAO Rosneft, according to people familiar with the matter. Exxon has been seeking U.S. permission to drill with Rosneft in several areas banned by sanctions and applied in recent months for a waiver to proceed in the Black Sea, according to these people. The Black Sea request is likely to be closely scrutinized by members of Congress who are seeking to intensify sanctions on Russia in response to what the U.S. said was its use of cyberattacks to interfere with elections last year. Congress has also launched an investigation into whether there were ties between aides to Donald Trump and Russia’s government during the presidential campaign and the political transition.

Secretary of State Rex Tillerson is Exxon’s former chief executive officer and forged a close working relationship with Rosneft and Russian President Vladimir Putin. The State Department is among the U.S. government agencies that have a say on Exxon’s waiver application, according to current and former U.S. officials.

And there’s a whole lot of oil there! Anyone want to bet they’ll get the waiver?

Silva April 20, 2017 at 11:59 AM

U.S. May Not Be Able to Shoot Down North Korean Missiles, Say Experts
op generals have been insisting for years that if North Korea launched a missile at the United States, the U.S military would be able to shoot it down.
But that is a highly questionable assertion, according to independent scientists and government investigators. In making it, the generals fail to acknowledge huge questions about the effectiveness of the $40 billion missile defense system they rely on to stop a potential nuclear-armed ballistic missile fired by North Korean or Iran, according to a series of outside reviews.

“They are leading political leaders to believe that they have a military capability that they don’t, in fact, have,” says physicist David Wright, who has studied the program for years as co-director of the Global Security Program at the Union of Concerned Scientists.

PEGASUS April 20, 2017 at 12:19 PM

Silva 191 –
Heaven forbid we do business with the Russians! That could lead to even more trade which could lead to dependence one on the other. Then what? Next thing you know peace could break out between us and there could be a huge force to
control those pesky bad guys in the middle east.
Oh the horrors!

Silva April 20, 2017 at 12:30 PM

Is This The Secret Russian Deal Trump Made?

PEGASUS April 20, 2017 at 12:33 PM

Silva 193,
Your article by Ken Dilanian, a blogger on MUCK RACK, cites questionable reports by “independent scientists and government investigators.” No names just the omnipresent unknown source. The truth is compromised once again for opinion.
Where I come from we call that a pack of lies.

Silva April 20, 2017 at 12:59 PM

I saw a name PEGASUS, Dr. David Wright; Dr. Wright received his PhD in physics from Cornell University in 1983, and worked for five years as a research physicist. He was an SSRC-MacArthur Foundation Fellow in International Peace and Security in the Center for Science and International Affairs in the Kennedy School of Government at Harvard, and a Senior Analyst at the Federation of American Scientists. He is a Fellow of the American Physics Society (APS) and a recipient of APS Joseph A. Burton Forum Award in 2001. He has been at UCS since 1992.

Areas of expertise: Space weapons and security, ballistic missile proliferation, ballistic missile defense, U.S. nuclear weapons and nuclear weapons policy.

PEGASUS April 20, 2017 at 2:22 PM

Chris Johnson disagrees with your position. He’s a spokesman for the Pentagon’s Missile Defense Agency.
He says the Pentagon “is confident in our ability to defend the homeland against ballistic missile threats.” While the program had reliability challenges early in its development, “we have made significant improvements over the last several years to ensure the system is able to operate as designed.”

There are 36 interceptors in operation, according to the Missile Defense Agency — four at Vandenberg Air Force Base in California and 32 at Ft. Greely, Alaska. Eight more are due online by year’s end. In contrast to the Iron Dome system in Israel, which is designed to counter shorter range missiles and artillery, the GMD is made to hit missiles above the earth’s atmosphere — a more difficult proposition. It is among the heirs to the Strategic Defense Initiative, the so-called Star Wars program launched under Ronald Reagan.

Aspirin April 20, 2017 at 3:28 PM

“Jeff Sessions doesn’t think a judge in Hawaii — aka ‘an island in the Pacific’ — should overrule Trump”.

This guy is supposed to be a SC Judge?

He’s an idiot.

Aspirin April 20, 2017 at 3:32 PM

Dr. Wright is a PhD in physics and has worked in research.

Chris Johnson is a paid propagandist with no real qualifications in the matter discussed.

Fox News will want to hire him, no doubt.

Silva April 20, 2017 at 4:08 PM

It might seem like trivia that’s only a little harder than your average Are You Smarter than a 5th Grader question, but it turns out that our president might not know who is in charge of North Korea. After an interview in which Donald Trump seemed to reveal that he doesn’t know that Kim Jong Un and his late father, Kim Jong Il, are two different people, America must contend with yet another reality of this presidency: our leader could send us to nuclear war without even knowing whom he’s fighting against. It’s a harrowing prospect—but late night was determined to find the comedic silver lining. During the interview, Trump refused to name the North Korean dictator by name, instead repeatedly using the moniker “this gentleman”: “I hope things work out well,” Trump said on Tuesday’s episode of Fox & Friends. “I hope there’s going to be peace, but they’ve been talking with this gentleman for a long time. You read Clinton’s book and he said, ‘Oh, we made such a great peace deal,’ and it was a joke. You look at different things over the years with President Obama. Everybody has been outplayed. They’ve all been outplayed by this gentleman.” “Does he really not know that when Bill Clinton was president, Kim Jong Un was 16 years old?” Jimmy Kimmel wondered Tuesday night.

PEGASUS April 20, 2017 at 4:57 PM

Chris Johnson is just a spokesman for the Pentagon’s Missile Defense Agency, that’s all. You know, the people on the inside who really know what’s real and what’s fake news.
Wright is a speculating outsider. But don’t start now believing truth it would ruin your perfect record.

anon April 20, 2017 at 8:54 PM

@172 Silva

“He meets all day with various people on any number of important issues.MAGA!”

@ 164 anon

“He likely meets all day with various people on any number of issues.”

So glad to have inspired you and offered my guidance. You’re welcome.

anon April 20, 2017 at 9:26 PM

@171 Silva

” …reproductive justice.” Haha haha hahahahahahaha!

Aspirin April 20, 2017 at 9:40 PM

PEGASUS, Spokesman, or PR man. He might know what is “on the inside” but I’ll bet he is told only that which the Pentagon wants to be made public.

This is SOP for our government these days.

Aspirin April 20, 2017 at 9:43 PM

Correction to my post #180. Sessions is the AG, not a judge.

Aspirin April 20, 2017 at 9:45 PM

$25 million for a lying groper?

Only on Fox.

Silva April 21, 2017 at 2:45 AM

anon, yes, I did use your words; “He likely meets all day with various people on any number of issues.” juxtaposed to the photos of DT surrounded by a sad group of trashy fringe celebrity wannabes in the White House here; Glad you approve. And the article about Republicans and porn is interesting as well; I thought you might like it, you were going on about porn skanks and all. MAGA!

Silva April 21, 2017 at 2:53 AM

Diplomacy. It’s not so easy: South Korea’s government wants to know whether Chinese President Xi Jinping gave alternative facts on the nation’s history to Donald Trump. In an interview with the Wall Street Journal last week, Trump said Xi told him during a recent summit that “Korea actually used to be a part of China.” The comments sparked outrage in Seoul and became an issue in South Korea’s presidential race, prompting the foreign ministry to seek to verify what Xi actually said. “It’s a clear fact acknowledged by the international community that, for thousands of years in history, Korea has never been part of China,” foreign ministry spokesman Cho June-hyuck said at a briefing in Seoul on Thursday. Candidates for South Korea’s May 9 presidential election weighed in on the issue, which comes as the nation’s relations with China are already strained over moves to deploy a U.S. missile defense system on its soil. “This is clearly a distortion of history and an invasion of the Republic of Korea’s sovereignty,” conservative Liberty Korea Party candidate Hong Joon-pyo said. A representative for Democratic Party of Korea candidate Moon Jae-in demanded to find out the full context of Xi’s comment. Ahn Cheol-soo’s People’s Party said that, if true, it would be regrettable for China to distort history in an international diplomacy setting. Chinese dynasties invaded the Korean Peninsula repeatedly over the centuries and demanded tributes, but South Koreans reject the idea that their ancestors were ever ruled by their neighbor. More;

Aspirin April 21, 2017 at 7:47 AM

Nothing is more frightening than a bunch of Republicans in the same room discussing healthcare overhaul.

Dysfunctional government running amok.

Aspirin April 21, 2017 at 7:50 AM

Watch for the upcoming, and latest, GOP attack on American healthcare.

It will be a loser.

Silva April 21, 2017 at 11:42 AM

“Nobody knew that health care could be so complicated” Here comes Trumpcare 2.0; Capitol Hill sources said an amendment to the GOP-sponsored American Health Care Act would be circulated to the Republican caucus in a matter of hours – a series of Band-aid patches designed to make the bill palatable to both the centrist and conservative wings of the GOP. A White House aide first told The Washington Post that an ‘all hands’ conference call would be convened on Saturday with a ‘target date for [a] vote Wednesday.’ An hour later, however, Republican congressional aides were expressing skepticism that the proposed amendments could win enough GOP support to pass the House. The Trump administration and House Speaker Paul Ryan presided over an historic flame-out four weeks ago when a conservative faction known as the House Freedom Caucus torpedoed their Obamacare replacement bill over concerns that it didn’t go far enough.

On Thursday, Trump scoffed at the idea that he had ever thrown in the towel.

Silva April 21, 2017 at 12:10 PM

It was a headline that seemed pulled from another century — but earlier this month, a Russian newspaper, Novaya Gazeta, reported that Chechen police have detained, beaten and tortured at least 100 gay men. The Russian LGBT Network claimed that as many as 20 men may have been killed in the attacks in Chechnya, a republic within Russia. More disturbingly, the paper reported that Chechen authorities were engaged in purging gay men by kidnapping and imprisoning them secretly in “detention style camps.” Over the last few weeks, HRC (Human Rights Campaign) has been vigilant in drawing the attention of world leaders to the developments in Chechnya. In advance of Secretary of State Rex Tillerson’s recent trip to Russia, HRC President Chad Griffin urged him “to make clear to your Russian counterparts that such lawless detentions, arrests, torture and murders are unacceptable and will not be tolerated.” That letter was also delivered to U.S. Ambassador to the United Nations Nikki Haley and members of the White House National Security Council.

anon April 21, 2017 at 1:17 PM

Yep. And during the Olympics, the Mayor of Los Angeles cleared homeless from the streets. Must be going deaf because I didn’t hear HRC objecting to that. And at a rally in Berkeley, conservatives were brutally attacked by liberals and anarchists. Didn:t hear the HRC, “Human Rights Commission,” by the way, objecting to that. Seems only certain people’s human rights are protected and that’s discriminatory. Suppose for a moment that during the next Gay Pride Parade the parading were brutally attacked by those who don’t like their demonstration, and nothing was done … or as little as was done in Berkeley to protect conservatives human rights. They are “human rights” and we all share them equally as humans. Didn’t hear you objecting to the Berkeley travesty.

anon April 21, 2017 at 1:27 PM

Our President, Donald Trump, doesn’t “scoff.” I’m not clicking on your links and downloading a stinky spyware, virus, tracker, hacker smutz. I get all the accidental porn skanks I can handle on Twitter. Thanks anyway. Always glad to be of help.

anon April 21, 2017 at 1:43 PM

University Of California, Berkeley, On Lockdown Thursday After Disturbing Capitalist Propagansa Found Unattended On Campus

Silva April 21, 2017 at 1:52 PM

Mental health experts claimed the President was “paranoid and delusional”, and said it was their “ethical responsibility” to warn the American public about the “dangers” Mr Trump’s psychological state poses to the country.
Speaking at the conference at Yale’s School of Medicine on Thursday, one of the mental health professionals, Dr John Gartner, a practising psychotherapist who advised psychiatric residents at Johns Hopkins University Medical School, said: “We have an ethical responsibility to warn the public about Donald Trump’s dangerous mental illness. I’ve worked with some of the most dangerous people our society produces, directing mental health programmes in prisons,” he said. “I’ve worked with murderers and rapists. I can recognise dangerousness from a mile away. You don’t have to be an expert on dangerousness or spend fifty years studying it like I have in order to know how dangerous this man is.”

The problem here is a President Mike Pence. Equally as insane, but smarter.

Silva April 21, 2017 at 3:21 PM

anon, you’re correct, they do discriminate. They aren’t out to save everyone; “The Human Rights Campaign (HRC) is the largest LGBT civil rights advocacy group and political lobbying organization in the United States. The organization focuses on protecting and expanding rights for LGBT individuals, most notably advocating for marriage equality, anti-discrimination and hate crimes legislation, and HIV/AIDS advocacy. The organization has a number of legislative initiatives as well as supporting resources for LGBT individuals.”

I just chose that particular article to quote out of at least a dozen similar ones I saw.

#197, LOLOL!!!

Elwood April 21, 2017 at 4:06 PM

@ Aspirin #191

“Nothing is more frightening than a bunch of Republicans in the same room discussing healthcare overhaul.”

Oh, I don’t know. I find you pretty frightening.

It's 'Meme' is that you Ma? April 21, 2017 at 4:19 PM

“Cleaning up the mess left to the current Commander will not be easy…”

The deal is this!

So many many witnessed miss steps have been taken that only a “wizard’ with a wand could fix it…

The left no no no doesn’t want it fixed they want it ‘Madonna’ like stone-aged…

We’d all better fuss up soon that new and dynamic adults have arrived to take us to a better promise than disruption destruction that seems to be the wish of so so so many who post here and are in the total rest of the sorry loser climate driving the disruption that only Egyptian leaders who needed Biblical reasons to let their people go can understand…

The ‘Men-gal’ intelligence has arrived once again…

Take somebody else out and develop a better person mentality has captivated the the minds of too too too many without even rational comprehension…

I am more than sorry to hear of unborn murder and proposed solutions to the problems facing society that the way to go is to ignore the death squad of the left and to let “live and live” people make the new and next decisions facing the World…

If you suggest killing innocents and letting their killers live I pose that you are the biggest part of the loser problem…


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