Claycord – Talk About Politics

March 17, 2017 18:12 pm · 269 comments


This post is “Talk About Politics”.

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201 Randy March 22, 2017 at 7:01 PM

So what did the President know and when did he know it?

Sound familiar? No think Nixon.

202 anon March 22, 2017 at 8:24 PM

Aspirin will continue to throw lies around long enough for others to begin believing that it is the truth.

203 anon March 22, 2017 at 8:49 PM

There is truth to Trump’s claim that he was under surveilance. And, if Obama didn’t know about it, it would indicate he, as President, had no control over the agencies doing the surveilance. Frightening to say the least. Perhaps that’s why he skipped the daily intelligence briefings there for awhile. So he could “play dumb.” Then, the onus would be on those agencies if the wiretaps, etc., were discovered, and he could say he knew nothing about it. We know there was tension between he and Trump, and Obama was not the type to let his power go to waste … vindictive President that he was.

FBI Director James Comey, and NSA Director Michael Rogers look guilty as sin in the jpg in #193 above. It looks like they haven’t slept in days. Just waiting for the other shoe to drop.

So, you left wingers can stop with your “he’s a liar” mantra! It’s putting us all to sleep, and you’re wrong, again. Toast!!!!

204 Dr. Jellyfinger March 22, 2017 at 10:17 PM

.@ 198 ~ There is proof Trump and his transition team were being surveilled along with other unspecified targets.
Trump was right! and you guys, who said it was BS are WRONG!
(again…. don’t you ever get tired of eating crow?).

205 furian March 22, 2017 at 10:26 PM

Trumptards wouldn’t know truth if it slapped them in the face.

There is no truth, there is only Trump, his fact free tweets and the dummies that believe him.


206 Dr. Jellyfinger March 22, 2017 at 10:59 PM

@ 208 ~ Obama claimed he never knew about anything until he heard it on the nightly news or saw it in the newspaper. He was lying of course…. but that is what he claimed.

207 PEGASUS March 22, 2017 at 11:05 PM

Information is out now that obama changed an executive order (12333) which then allowed the spying on Trump and his team.
Rhetorical Randy the plagiarizer, Local, Aspirin the Liar, Silva, JWB, furian, etc are guilty of the sin of selective ignorance.

208 anon March 23, 2017 at 6:50 AM

And furian continues to whine and cry. Yet the child continues to ignore the lies perpetrated by the moron that sat in the White House for the previous 8 years claiming “you can keep your doctor” – among hundreds of others.

Give it up and take your selective outrage to someplace that gives a rip – like the DNC. Since the democrats are now irrelevant, you can cry for the next 30 years while the SCOTUS is replaced with conservatives…LONG after Trump has left in 2024.

209 Aspirin March 23, 2017 at 7:33 AM

Nunes is trying to create a smokescreen and muddy the water to make it more difficult to effectively investigate Putin-Trump’ ties to Russia.

This is a typical GOP tactic, used before when things don’t go its way. Nunes wants to sidetrack the investigation and send the Committee off the track.

It won’t work because there are enough smart people who see through this farce.

210 Aspirin March 23, 2017 at 7:35 AM

TIFOKCIS, Inmates’ sex change affects 0.00001 % of the population. Don’t get your pants wet over this.

211 Aspirin March 23, 2017 at 7:40 AM

The GOP apparently cannot have an effective and above-board investigation of anything.

Benghazi, Hillary’s emails, Obama’s birthright – all fizzled after costing millions.

And now the GOP lackey Nunes runs off to vomit the latest rumors to Putin-Trump before consulting with his committee.

An Independent Counsel is needed but the GOP will not want that, of course.

212 JWB March 23, 2017 at 7:41 AM

@ Peggy

You’re so cute when you make stuff up…. but face it Crooked Trump is under FBI investigation. And how about I refresh your general ignorance?

“Most honest people I know are not under FBI investigation, let alone two”.
Kellyanne Conway

“Hillary Clinton could be sworn into office while still being under investigation by the FBI, which would then put this country into a major constitutional crisis”
Sean Hannity

213 TIFOKCIS March 23, 2017 at 8:04 AM

Old hippies and hipsters are pickled in a brine of white guilt identity politics.

Speaking of old hippies. Silva himself posted this comment: the monkey with the smallest balls makes the most noise.

Interestingly enough Progressives, Liberals and Democrats dominate this section with multiple comments and several hold records for the most consecutive comments ie: making the most noise.


214 JWB March 23, 2017 at 8:07 AM


Maybe you should come up with something better than “you can keep your doctor” while talking about selective outrage.

“We would end a disastrous health care program, and replace it with reforms that lowered costs and actually let you keep your doctor.”
Nikki Haley 1/12/16 Republican response to State of the Union address.

“Twenty-four million more Americans would be uninsured by 2026 under the House Republican health care bill than under Obamacare, including 14 million by next year.”
Congressional Budget Office 3/13/17

215 Aspirin March 23, 2017 at 8:16 AM

Aspirin predicted this: America First? Trump Businesses Are Hiring Foreign Workers.
Trump Vineyard Estates, owned by Eric Trump, is seeking permission to hire 29 foreign workers through the federal H-2A visa program to cultivate grapes at its Virginia winery, the Associated Press reported Tuesday.

Aspirin warned that agriculture will suffer from Trump’s attacks on foreign workers.

216 Dr. Jellyfinger March 23, 2017 at 9:06 AM

Just sit back & take it Aspirin… find something to bite on like a leather belt or a rolled up sock & just take it.

217 TIFOKCIS March 23, 2017 at 9:16 AM

.000000000000000001 of the population can have such an impact.

A man accused of plowing an SUV into pedestrians on a crowded London bridge, then stabbing a police officer to death on the grounds of Britain’s Parliament has been identified as Khalid Masood, a 52-year-old Briton with criminal convictions.

Khalid Masood

218 Aspirin March 23, 2017 at 9:21 AM

Nunes must resign. An apology is not enough. He has compromised his committee investigation of Trump.

219 Aspirin March 23, 2017 at 10:26 AM

The GOP healthcare plan (aka Trumpscare) is nothing more than a cynical ploy to drive healthcare back to the states where it will die a slow death.

220 mtzman March 23, 2017 at 10:34 AM

@Peggy #212, so Trump claims he was “tapped” by Obama and the U.K. before the November election. The changes to EO 12333, which would not have authorized Obama to spy on Trump in any event, occurred almost two months after the election. And you want to talk about selective ignorance?

221 Silva March 23, 2017 at 11:21 AM

Tiffy #208, is a lying sacka. There it goes making something up to say about me because I don’t talk to idiots.

222 Aspirin March 23, 2017 at 11:25 AM

Trump the pathological liar.

“It’s not what I say, it’s what I mean”

Huh ??

“Wiretapping” is not wiretapping.

And brain-dead Republicans buy this crap.

223 Aspirin March 23, 2017 at 11:31 AM

Re: 222: The effectiveness of terrorism often relies upon the irrational reaction to the terrorist act.

9/11 is the perfect example. The attacks on that day caused an irrational fear and reaction and Cheney was able to lie Congress into attacking Iraq, which had nothing to do with the attacks.

Thousands died on 9/11, and more thousands died in the Iraq attacks. And ISIS was born.

The winner: Terrorism.

224 Hmm ? March 23, 2017 at 3:07 PM

Terror attack in London ….
the guy had a beard so he must have been Amish.

225 JWB March 23, 2017 at 3:25 PM

@ Hmm ? #229

Actually the guy was a British-born citizen. I’m surprised you couldn’t find this out for yourself.

226 JWB March 23, 2017 at 3:28 PM

Hey wingers
…. how many times did your guys vote to repeal Obamacare over the last six years or so? I guess it was easier to repeal it when you knew it wouldn’t happen with a Democrat in the WH? It was all just for show I guess …..
just priceless!

227 Noj March 23, 2017 at 4:10 PM

we won loser.

228 Aspirin March 23, 2017 at 5:04 PM

If Putin-Trump’s first three months in office is a preview of things to come …

…..we are in very, very deep trouble.

229 Hmm ? March 23, 2017 at 5:20 PM

Effectiveness of terrorism does rely upon the reaction to the terrorist act.

Can not expect to deal with a suicidal Ninth Century terrorist mentality using 21st. Century ethics including bowing and apologizing.

Consider Russia’s reaction to their diplomats being kidnapped in Beirut in 1985.
From LA Times
“The Jerusalem Post said the Soviet secret police last year secured the release of three kidnaped Soviet diplomats in Beirut by castrating a relative of a radical Lebanese Shia Muslim leader, sending him the severed organs and then shooting the relative in the head.

The incident began when four Soviet diplomats were kidnaped last September by Muslim extremists who demanded that Moscow pressure the Syrian government to stop pro-Syrian militiamen from shelling rival Muslim positions in the northern Lebanese city of Tripoli.

The militiamen, the Jerusalem paper said, did not cease their attacks, and the body of one of the Soviet diplomats, Arkady Katkov, was found a few days later in a field in Beirut.

The KGB then apparently kidnaped and killed a relative of an unnamed leader of the Shias’ Hezbollah (Party of God) group, a radical, pro-Iranian group that has been suspected of various terrorist activities against Western targets in Lebanon.

Parts of the man’s body, the paper said, were then sent to the Hezbollah leader with a warning that he would lose other relatives in a similar fashion if the three remaining Soviet diplomats were not immediately released. They were quickly freed.

The newspaper quoted “observers in Jerusalem” as saying: “This is the way the Soviets operate. They do things–they don’t talk. And this is the language Hezbollah understands.” ”

230 Hmm ? March 23, 2017 at 5:27 PM

@jwb Knew of London terrorist’s lineage yesterday thanks to British media.
Is unfortunate recognition of sarcasm coupled with humor still eludes you.

231 Aspirin March 23, 2017 at 6:19 PM

Trumpscare failed in the House and it is certain to fail in the Senate.


232 PEGASUS March 23, 2017 at 6:25 PM

mtzman, the unemployed “lawyer”, #225, seems to be lacking in reading comprehension. Apples and oranges!
Then he claims the order was changed following the election.
It never occurred to him that that was a CYA action by that slick talking flim-flam man, obama-the-proven-liar.

233 PEGASUS March 23, 2017 at 6:55 PM

The incredible thing about Local the poster with OCD, JWB the weenie, Aspirin the proven liar, Randy (hard to type randy without laughing), mtzman the unemployed “lawyer” (another laugher), is they all hate Trump, who has done nothing to harm them, more than they love America.
They would all prefer America fail completely rather than give the president a chance to succeed. All because of stupid childish thinking based on the propaganda being force-fed by the leftist media.

234 PEGASUS March 23, 2017 at 7:11 PM

Rabid Dog leftist Weenies:
Trump is making good on the issues that got him elected President.
America has spoken.
Grow up.
Sit down.
And shut up!
You lost!

235 JWB March 23, 2017 at 7:27 PM

@ Hmm ?

I’m terribly sorry that humor in terrorist attacks elude me, but I’m sure the families of the people killed and/or gravely injured in this senseless attack can understand me.

236 Atticus Thraxx March 23, 2017 at 8:13 PM

Oh,oh,pick me ,pick me!

I’m feelin’ kinda butt hurt PEGAUS being ‘left’ out.

See what I did there?

After all I despise the marmalade malevolence too. With much rigor.

A precious snowflake that doesn’t melt, has guns and a job.

Seems like I’m always ‘effing up the paradigm.

Call me names please.

237 Randy March 23, 2017 at 8:26 PM

@239 oh we have a new health care olan that sticks it to older Americas? I must have missed the vote having a life and all.

238 Hmm ? March 23, 2017 at 8:48 PM

Your reward for electing democrats.
“Chicago, Detroit, and Baltimore all have the distinction of falling within counties (with Baltimore as an independent city) that lead the nation in population loss between 2015 and 2016, according to recently released Census Bureau data. What do these three cities all have in common? They’re all blue.

Each of these cities have been wracked by failed leftists policies for years. They have had years and years of Democrat leadership that has led to their current state.”

239 Dr. Jellyfinger March 23, 2017 at 8:50 PM

I don’t care if it takes the R’s all year to work out the healthcare bill, they need to get it right and the true Republicans… the Conservative Republicans.. are forcing them to do just that!
Better to let it take longer than to serve it up quick and sloppy.
They should have worked it out way before the election ….. could it be they actually never expected to win? Effin stupid!

240 Hmm ? March 23, 2017 at 9:15 PM

“The Nebraska Democratic Party is welcoming refugees with open arms, welcome baskets … and voter registration forms.

A donation drive organized by the NDP collected some 50 gift baskets for refugees. Each contained items like diapers and kitchen utensils, a welcome letter from the Nebraska Democratic Party signed by its chairwoman Jane Kleeb, and a voter registration form, according to a video posted to Facebook by the Nebraska Democratic Party.”

241 anon March 23, 2017 at 9:48 PM

Silva’s pole has become demagnitized at #226, and the white guilt has consumed her. Seems to be referring to Tiffy, but cites anon at #208. Really hurts I guess to find out you’ve been manipulated by the evil leftwing lugnuts, who have made you a slave to spread their agenda of hate and dysfunction, but better late than never. Join the GOP (Grand Old Party, in case you were wondering) …. it’s a “Party.” Democrats are holding a wake. Too bad! So sad! Make America Great, Again! #MAGA

242 Aspirin March 23, 2017 at 10:23 PM

The House Intelligence Committee is badly compromised. The idiot Nunes put the fork in it.

And, the Republican House of Cards is coming apart with the healthcare vote. If it manages to get through the House it is DOA in the Senate.

Obamacare lives on.

243 Aspirin March 23, 2017 at 10:27 PM

Hmm #245: Democrats behaving like Christians must really piss of the Republicans.

244 Aspirin March 23, 2017 at 10:30 PM

Putin-Trump is tearing this country apart, and it is only the first quarter of his dictatorship.

One can only imagine the further destruction that lies ahead.

ISIS can take a vacation.

245 Aspirin March 23, 2017 at 10:32 PM

Al Franken for president in 2020.

Don’t laugh, it can happen.

(If Trump can get in, anyone can.)

246 PEGASUS March 23, 2017 at 10:33 PM

To be picked one must randomly copy and post every bit of trash and fake news from the dozens of leftist media outlets. You know the ones……there all owned by the same 9 corrupt power brokers who maintain a strangle hold on news and information.
Do that and you can be part of the ignorant minions too, THRAXX.
I don’t believe you’re that stupid.

247 Aspirin March 23, 2017 at 10:37 PM

Putin-Trump Approval Rating (PTAR): 37%

Watch for updates to the PTAR.

248 Dr. Jellyfinger March 23, 2017 at 11:08 PM

Hey! You left wing kids riding in the back… QUIET DOWN!
Stop all that whining!
I mean it, don’t make me come back there or I will stop this thread, drive it right back home & make you start it all over again on Friday night!

249 anon March 24, 2017 at 6:19 AM


Al Franken was a mediocre comedian. He’s an even less impressive member of Congress.

250 anon March 24, 2017 at 6:46 AM

Pelosi continues to appear, like most Democrats, demented. When Anderson Cooper asked her who is the leader of the Democrat party, she pretty much proved that there isn’t one. Actually, the Democrat “party,” is a misnomer. At this point, it’s a Democrat “funeral.” But, don’t tell them that. Sniwflakes just couldn’t handle it.

Pelosi Struggles To Answe Simple, Direct Question

251 TIFOKCIS March 24, 2017 at 7:14 AM

Lets play math.

Working with a modest number of 3 billion Muslims and 1 million ‘Islamist Extremists’ we come up with 3,000 Muslims to every innocent man, woman and child mass murdering coward.

Now lets take the Democratic Party at a mere 1 million and the black masked pukes at a generous 200 and we have 5000 to 1. 5000 open minded, we are all the same, coexist, rights and entitlements touting degenerates to every 1 elderly and woman beating, window smashing, speech silencing pile of crap.

Muslims like Democrats say and do nothing. The lack of discouragement is encouragement.

So consistent.

252 Aspirin March 24, 2017 at 7:52 AM


That is your opinion and it is not shared by the people of Minnesota. They like Franken.

253 Aspirin March 24, 2017 at 7:55 AM

Almost dead in the House and DOA in the Senate.

Get back to work GOP and craft something that will actually work.

ACA for the rich is just too GOP for most folks.

254 Dr. Jellyfinger March 24, 2017 at 8:58 AM

10 Democrat Senators up for reelection next year in states that Trump won…
and they must blindly follow Chuck Schumer over the cliff like good little lemmings by obstructing & threatening a fillibuster.
Voters will remember.

255 anon March 24, 2017 at 9:21 AM

@ Aspirin 254

It’s Minnesota! What did you expect?

256 PEGASUS March 24, 2017 at 11:32 AM

Snowflakes Need Not Apply –
CEO creates ‘Snowflake Test’ to weed out job applicants

257 Frank March 24, 2017 at 12:37 PM

History will show Donald Trump will have been one of our greatest Presidents

258 Aspirin March 24, 2017 at 1:39 PM

Nunes: “There was no wiretapping of Trump Tower”.

259 Aspirin March 24, 2017 at 1:40 PM

Putin-Trump’s failures pile up. The AHCA died today.

260 slagheap March 24, 2017 at 1:44 PM

friday 3/24 p.m. GOP circular firing squad unable to govern ( again. )
yo, trumpsters! sick of winning yet?

261 anon March 24, 2017 at 2:04 PM

President Trump must be asking himself why he bothered with these numbskulls when it looks very much like they don’t want to Make America Great, Again. Let’s just wait and let Obamacare self destruct, as it surely will, although it is going to be much more painful for the entire country than the alternative. I’m writing President Trump a letter and encouraging him to take the Presidential pay simply for the aggravation.

262 Aspirin March 24, 2017 at 2:04 PM

TIFOKCIS, there are 72 million registered Democrats, not 1 million. Your drivel is useless if you can’t count.

263 mtzman March 24, 2017 at 2:04 PM

@Pegasus #234, so Trump is making good on the issues that got him elected president. Name one …

264 Aspirin March 24, 2017 at 2:29 PM

If the GOP infested House can’t get the AHCA passed don’t expect any better in the Senate.

If bill passed in the House it was bound to fail in the Senate anyway.

265 Aspirin March 24, 2017 at 2:31 PM

Trump impeachment should still be on the table. He is still lying about wiretapping.

Congress needs to shut him up.

266 Aspirin March 24, 2017 at 2:32 PM

The White House Clown Show is no longer funny. It is now pathetic.

Trump voters should demand a refund.

267 Aspirin March 24, 2017 at 2:34 PM

Trump OK’d the Canadian pipeline to run through the USA.

Jobs for Canada !

268 PEGASUS March 24, 2017 at 4:17 PM

Here’s 19 to get you started, mtzman. How’s that work for you.

269 mtzman March 24, 2017 at 5:12 PM

@Pegasus #268, okay, if transferring the HbCU offices from the Department of Education to the White House is your idea of the things that got Trump elected, then I guess you got me.

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