Walnut Creek Council to Decide Whether to Scale Back Crogan’s Sports Bar & Grill’s Hours

December 5, 2016 8:00 am · 25 comments

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The Walnut Creek City Council tonight is expected to decide whether to uphold a Planning Commission recommendation that Crogan’s Sports Bar and Grill stop serving and selling alcohol at midnight and close at 12:30 a.m.

The Planning Commission found that Crogan’s, as operated, constitutes a public nuisance and unanimously voted to scale back operating hours.

The owner of Crogan’s is appealing the Planning Commission decision, asking instead that it be able to serve/sell alcohol until 12:30 a.m. and stay open until 1 a.m.

Tonight’s meeting is a continuation of a public hearing held before the City Council on Nov.15.

Crogan’s had its license suspended for 20 days in 2014 because of numerous police calls to deal with fights, assaults and public drunkenness. They also had their license to sell alcohol suspended twice before that — for 10 days in 2008 for selling alcohol to a minor and 15 days in 2010 for serving an obviously intoxicated patron and allowing public drunkenness, according to the Department of Alcoholic and Beverage Control.

Nick December 5, 2016 at 8:21 AM

Their license should be permanently revoked. Enough is enough.

Catlady December 5, 2016 at 9:04 AM

I went there two or three times after turning 21 in the early aughts and it was awful. I don’t know why WC has continued to let them operate this long. It is a former crematorium, so maybe it is haunted.

TIFOKCIS December 5, 2016 at 9:05 AM

I’ve heard about Crogans and Walnut Creek’s night life in general. It is the females unhealthy social programing attracting “out of towners” and all that through the tunnel and over the hill has to offer.

Jim riddick December 5, 2016 at 9:39 AM

What the heck is happening to Co Co cty? I grew up and lived there for forty years. Been gone tor ten. Seems the news I get is always bad. Used to go to crogans all the time in the 80s 90s. Never had this kind of trouble. Sad.

XD December 5, 2016 at 9:39 AM

Well that will hurt there Business

Shoulda Coulda December 5, 2016 at 10:19 AM

@ Tbone

Sorry Tbone.
Martinez is an official N.P.Z.
(No Puking Zone).
The town shuts down when
the courthouse closes.

Then what? December 5, 2016 at 10:26 AM

I’m sure all the douche bags will just go home? Nope, they will infect other areas for an our and a half.

Thatguy December 5, 2016 at 10:39 AM

RDO what happens when they close at 1230? I assume those people that cause problems at Crogand would just find another bar like Dans or Mr Lucky’s to cause problems. Although the door staff at both establishments don’t tolerate the foolery that Crogand has over the years. Crogans does cater to a certain crowd. Maybe they should try to clean up shop.

Tif December 5, 2016 at 12:31 PM

Let them be

@Jim riddick December 5, 2016 at 1:33 PM

Come back, Jim. We miss you. 🙂

Ex-Teradyner

What That Person Above Said To TIFOKCIS December 5, 2016 at 2:03 PM

AND that was racist as hell. Shame on you. Sexist and racist. Next we will hear, “She had it coming with that tiny mini skirt!”

TIFOKCIS, you are stupid.

Dogamatic December 5, 2016 at 3:27 PM

Wow! Crogan’s was the nicest place
around in the late 70s early 80s. Lots
of fun, clean, great place to meet friends
for a drink. What happened? Appears
Walnut Creek night life has deteriorated.
Or, is it just the manner in which people
socialize these days and what they
expect from it that has deteriorated.?

Lovelace December 5, 2016 at 6:36 PM

The place needs more cowbell!

Abernathys December 5, 2016 at 9:30 PM

Close down Crograns and bring back
Abernathy’s. They had cool bands and great drinks. Lots of good times there’ and no fights or shootings.

Patrick December 5, 2016 at 11:42 PM

crogans in Piedmont is still reputable. Some goon ruined Crogan’s in Walnut Creek when they made it a low class Dive bar

Pena December 6, 2016 at 12:05 AM

Walnut Creek has grown alot. The night life has changed form the 90’s. Out of towners visit WC on weekends. Nothing new. There are only a few bars where the drinks are cheap and with music you can dance to. Seen that type of bar move around from Vice, 1515, to Lift, to the place before it was called lift, to Redux, to the place before it was called Redux and so on (not in that order).

If Crograns is forced to change and close early then the crowd will move on to the next WC bar (and i hear Mr Lucky is next on the citys agenda even tho they have the least amount of police calls among the big 4 bars).

Crograns play local live bands. Use your space like a music hull (think the Rickshaw Stop). Or bring in games to play (like The Wreck Room). Or go ahead with your country idea but to get SMC to come you have to advertise SMC games (you will have to get more and newer TVs).

Tee December 6, 2016 at 12:12 AM

First crogans stopped carrying Hennesey. Then they started having a $5 cover. But still they attract people from over the hill and through the tunnel. someone was recently shot and killed around the corner. The problem: the dance floor. Shut down dancing, and all your problems will go away.

Ren McCormack December 6, 2016 at 3:15 AM

The truth is it doesn’t matter the good the bad and the ugly. Walnut Creek is 100% a corrupt city. It is ran by the Police department, in conjunction with the City council not the other way around. If they want you shut down it will happen. The fact that they were able to so easily pass a nuisance law is absurd. You can pick any business you want and they could potentially have 2 fights or “police calls” in one years time allowing them to be cut back in hours which kills the business? Do you think if the Cheesecake factory has 2 fights it will have its hours taken ? of course not. It’s a law to pick and choose who they want and who’ll they”ll allow to be here. Some places should be shut down that’s never been a mystery. Redux was a RESTAURANT , one that served pizza not food !? which if you know how a license works they needed to sell a minimum of 60% food sales over liquor !! That’s funny no one ever bothered to regulate them ? hmm why not ? $$$ Get that WCPD , they had a cover charge, a DJ, BOTTLE SERVICE and live acts? is this Vegas ? when was a 47 license ever allowed to do that. Yet a 48 license was made to put in a kitchen and serve food by the city council who didn’t even know the difference in licenses. A 48 license clearly is a BAR/NIGHTCLUB license that NEVER has to serve food yet can never have anyone under 21 in it, The Police and City Council made that a mandatory fact for one bar after taking their hours away as a “nuisance” Or was it the fact that an apartment complex was just approved to go in across the street that one of the city council members was a part of the new complexes company ?? Hmm strange.. Who’s getting paid off ? it’s pretty simple to see. Take all the licenses away and let’s just have BS lounges like they want that close at 10pm. I could open the greatest Nightclub/Bar in Walnut Creek tomorrow with minor problems that any business has and the fact that the minute the “city” didn’t like one thing about the business it would be shut down. Government salaries are public knowledge, learn who’s getting rich off of who’s back. Crogans for sure needed to change their act and had way to many chances but the trend will not end with them. Plan on Dan’s, Tiki Tom’s and Mr Lucky’s will all end up on the next hit list. You can’t fight city hall as they say, some of us have tried and then they literally just make up new rules to go in their favor. Let’s just be like they want and model our town after FOOTLOOSE

Walnut Creek Bars December 6, 2016 at 9:13 AM

The City of Walnut Creek does not like bars. One of the best bars ever was Panache (early 90s), which operated out of the Ramada Hotel now the Marriott Hotel. It was short lived. As soon as a drinking establishment, starts to become a problem, it gets shut down and that’s it. Crograns has outworn its welcome. It’s time for it to go now. I hear Oakland and SF are more welcoming.

Lars Anderson December 6, 2016 at 12:07 PM

I recall going to the old Tar and Feathers Bar in WC to listen to music in the 80’s, I had a lot of fun times at that bar as did many others. The bar was popular – it drew big crowds – but the customers were working class types, construction workers, super market checkers and so forth. When WC went Yuppie – you can trace that back to when Nordstrom’s opened – the City council and the PD decided they had had enough of Tar and Feathers – and the working class crowd it drew. Suddenly there was cops everywhere hanging around Tar and Feathers – the city and the PD basically just targeted Tar and Feathers and the customers – there was deliberate effort to shut the place down – so the owner sold it and the bar was replaced with a spot that catered to yuppies. WC doesn’t really want hard working blue collar and low paid service workers hanging around WC – we don’t have enough money – they prefer nerdy yuppie Lawyers and Doctors, trust fund types and the like – the kind of folks that don’t do much work – but do a lot of billing and spending. I don’t know about others but I liked WC in the days before the rich-yuppie nerds took over, it was funner and you didn’t have to pay to park, as I recall. Anyway, it looks like Crogan’s is getting the same treatment as Tar and Feathers got – the bar’s customer base is working people rather than rich yuppie Alamo nerds. City Council members and the PD don’t want working class types in Walnut Creek – except to work in the day -stay out rest of the time – that’s some of the reason they are targeting Crogan’s – people are coming from Pittsburg and Antioch, that has to stop! People coming from East County! Can you imagine! It’s just shocking!

Well Folks December 6, 2016 at 12:47 PM

I agree with Drake #15. When Wayne owned it Crogan’s was great. Sadly ugly illness forced him out and the things went down hill fast. Wayne was a great guy from a great family. They lived down the street from us in Lafayette. His mother was so proud when he got the place. All Wayne wanted was a fun safe bar for the community,

Tony T. December 6, 2016 at 2:42 PM

They weren’t unjustly scrutinized. These idiots had over 600 calls to police in 4 years. Their liquor license has been suspended twice since 2010, and lets not forget that someone was murdered there in August. They’ve had plenty of chances to clean up their act. Good riddance.

TONY T NEEDS TO READ December 6, 2016 at 3:20 PM

TONY T– have you sen the call log… 600 calls where made with in certain street limits, they also include a girl who lost a planner and a book, a lost dog, someone weird in the parking structure… Many calls were made before opening hours.
Most importantly, NO ONE WAS MURDERED THERE! There was a shooting in front of the old Chili’s… Not inside or in front of Crogan’s. Get your facts straight.

Were you aware of the shooting INSIDE of 1515 in July? Its weird …. no one heard about that…

Tony T. December 6, 2016 at 3:54 PM

Yes I actually did read them. A lot of assaults, under age drinking, and of course people with alcohol poisoning (which their bartenders were responsible for). Last time I checked chilli’s had been closed for years, but I’ll play semantics with you. The murder didn’t happen INSIDE of Crogan’s, it happened across the street. Although BOTH the people involved had been in Crogan’s earlier in the night (per their staff). I actually did hear about 1515. I guess it’s not in the news as much….SINCE NO ONE DIED!!!

Tony T. December 6, 2016 at 4:05 PM

Let me guess, you’re an employee there? So sorry. Guess it’s time to get a real job :/

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