Burglarized & Litterized: The Lime Ridge Parking Lot at Montecito

September 1, 2014 · 62 comments

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A large amount of trash was dumped in the Lime Ridge Open Space parking lot at Montecito this week, and several vehicles were also burglarized.

The lot is no stranger to controversy. A few times a month vehicles fall victim to burglars, who take advantage of people who leave their vehicles to take a stroll in Lime Ridge Open Space.

Be careful when you park there, it’s dangerous.

1 Chevrolet girl September 1, 2014 at 8:41 AM

I would love to park there, then sit on the hill with a paint ball gun and wait until they break into my car. It really wouldn’t be a paintball gun.

2 Chester E. Kitty September 1, 2014 at 8:42 AM

Is there any other way to get up to that space without parking in that crappy lot? My brother goes up there a lot … wish there was another parking area.

3 Jerk September 1, 2014 at 9:05 AM

I would love to see the Montecito residents come together and set up some kind of hidden surveillance – the kind like in the documentary ‘The Cove’.

4 Anon September 1, 2014 at 9:16 AM

Looks like there is a simple solution. Criminals like being able to hide, remove the bushes around the parking lot and there will be no hiding.

5 HaterLover September 1, 2014 at 9:38 AM

@ Chester E. Kitty: did you just blame the parking lot?

6 HaterLover September 1, 2014 at 9:40 AM

Chevrolet Girl has the right idea ;-)

7 Curious September 1, 2014 at 9:45 AM

Why can’t the city install a security camera? It would act as a deterrent as well as maybe catching the idiots that break into the cars.

8 Walnut Creek Resident September 1, 2014 at 9:46 AM

Why are we letting this happen over and over again? There has to be a way to bust these criminals!

9 #1 September 1, 2014 at 9:56 AM

do it….please.

10 Shasta Daisy September 1, 2014 at 10:15 AM
11 kax September 1, 2014 at 10:24 AM

pay a sniper, with night-vision capabilities, to set -up on the hill and wait….we could stand to lose a few junkie thieves…..

12 Mee September 1, 2014 at 10:33 AM

Seems if we got serious about stopping trashing and illegal dumping, we could get signs made with solar powered cameras on top. Would only take a few, at the beginning and end of problem roads, to possibly catch people illegally dumping. And the sign could say $1000 fine for littering. You have been photographed. Or something like that. Then fine them. But sad to see. Came back from a beautiful hike once high in mountains just to find my car was smashed in and they got nothing, nothing to steel really> So I guess they got mad and decided to destroy my car. Smashed it up bad ,m bent the steering wheel, for what? Because they found nothing worth steeling? Crappy world sometimes, and a lot of stress/money, stranded… they cause us that day. Thanks.. btw I hide my car off the main roads after that for a while when out camping hiking.. Sucks.. And this happened way out in the middle of no where about 6,000 feet elevation mountain road somewhere..

13 rkt88edmo September 1, 2014 at 10:52 AM

Unfortunately this is a problem for many open space parking areas that are smaller and aren’t busy enough for there to almost always have someone in the lot. Was a problem at the Treat Lime Ridge lot, Homestead entrance to Shell Ridge in WC, Joaquin Miller in Oakland – etc.

Don’t leave valuables in your car. Don’t hide them once you are in the parking lot, you may be watched and it is too late. Cars are targets.

14 Don Atwater September 1, 2014 at 10:56 AM

Where is this parking lot?

15 Always Right September 1, 2014 at 10:59 AM

The Montecito HOA needs to step up and work with CPD to deal with this problem. It is in their back yard. Literally.

This location is at the far end of the city limits, and we can’t expect CPD to have officers sitting around there waiting for crime to happen.

If the HOA put in cameras that could be monitored by local residents, and CPD worked with them, this problem could be solved.

16 @Chevrolet girl September 1, 2014 at 11:16 AM

You don’t have to be alone, I would be glad to join you in that turkey shoot.

17 babytruck September 1, 2014 at 11:16 AM

I’ve parked there and gone hiking several times. What’s amazing is I found a spot that is kind of hidden that looks like a party spot. There was a mattress, wood used for burning a campfire (oooh dangerous during this drought!), beer bottles and garbage from food packages. Was a total surprise to find that there behind the side of the hill and behind the trees. I was able to find a ranger and brought him to the location. He and I could not figure out how they got it there without it being a struggle because you had to climb up through a very narrow break in the rock and it was slippery due to the sandy texture of the stone.

18 Jimboy. September 1, 2014 at 11:16 AM

Shasta Daisy – The lot is in Concrud not Walnut Creek.

19 Location September 1, 2014 at 11:18 AM

It’s at the corner of Cowell and Ygnacio – across Ygnacio from Cowell

20 Yesterday September 1, 2014 at 11:20 AM

I pulled over in that lot to take a phone call, and there was so much glass – piles of window glass – in the parking spaces that I couldn’t find a glass-free place to park.

21 easy September 1, 2014 at 11:20 AM

Simple…Have CPD set up a bait car…in few days they will have the thugs locked up.

22 moneypenny September 1, 2014 at 11:24 AM

People who dump their garbage, trash the parking lot and break into cars are trash…..So much for taking care of the planet.

23 Thoughtful 1 September 1, 2014 at 11:28 AM

It is a proven fact–thieves and vandals will continue until they’re caught. If they find success at this location, they’ll return. There must be deterrents, preventative measures taken, ie. trim the bushes and install bright lights and cameras for visibility, post littering/dumping notices, increased police presence. If people are caught, the punishment should fit the crime. Fines alone are insufficient punishment. Those who litter should be put to work cleaning up the streets. Burglars/vandals should be assigned mandatory community work, helping others instead of harming them.

24 Silva September 1, 2014 at 11:32 AM

I always want to stop and take a hike there. I just haven’t felt comfortable enough leaving my wheels all alone in that lot to ever do it.

25 Why not set these people up who are doing this? September 1, 2014 at 11:49 AM

If you watch from a hidden point you will catch these a holes.

By the way when you catch these a holes would you call the police?

What would you do?

26 Original G September 1, 2014 at 11:49 AM

Here’s an idea, LOOK at the first picture, cut down the “landscaping” shielding the scum from passing cars. Thieves and cockroaches both don’t like being watched.

There is also a Pan Tilt Zoom CCTV traffic camera on the North East signal pole that could be widened out to watch the parking lot IF landscaping were not in the way. Hint, Hint

27 No answer September 1, 2014 at 11:53 AM

Funny. The “solution” to these types of problems in the community range from some idiot advocating “sniping” the criminals with night vision (how do you think you’ll look in court explaining murdering a petty criminal, laying in wait?), to “installing cameras”. Really? Like who’s gonna spend HOURS watching the video? And price outdoor, vandal proof, security cameras. These aren’t just your Iphone cameras..they need data cables, mounting, or a wireless bridge to send the signal to the monitoring station. Bay Alarm could put up an outdoor alarm/motion camera, but it again requires infrastructure and someone to monitor it 24/7.

Perhaps the problem has no solution, since most answers are from “keyboard” heroes. How about YOU and your neighbors patrolling the area. Criminals don’t like well attended areas, since they generally want to do their nasty deeds undetected.

28 TinFoiler September 1, 2014 at 11:55 AM

#4 is correct, Cut down those shrubs and open it up.

29 Shasta Daisy September 1, 2014 at 11:58 AM

Jimboy…Even though the parking lot is in Concord, Lime Ridge is part of Walnut Creek Open Space.

Montecito has noting to do with that parking lot and I doubt they would pay for cameras.

30 Pruneridge September 1, 2014 at 11:59 AM

looks like a transient camp. Where are the cameras? They are everywhere else watching you, why not there? Police should take their breaks and eat their lunch Police presence needed there. NOW!

31 COMMON SENSE September 1, 2014 at 12:03 PM

Avoid the lot.

32 That Guy September 1, 2014 at 12:06 PM

Sorry @jimboy. Us “Concrud” low lifes don’t mean to give your precious upper class Walnut Creek a bad name. I forgot that nothing bad EVER happens in WC. You’re so perfect

33 The Closer September 1, 2014 at 12:09 PM

They should put a nickel bounty on tweakers and we could all get rich.

34 anon September 1, 2014 at 12:21 PM

Time to put up a hunting camera with a motion sensor in the trees or bushes.

35 james September 1, 2014 at 12:22 PM

Camera, for the love of God. Catch these worthless suckhole vermin.

36 Sgt. Turdy September 1, 2014 at 12:36 PM

I like the paintball sniper idea. That ought to mark up the getaway car for easy ID before they get a chance to wash it off. Better have a backup firearm just in case the bad guys are packing.

If I were to put a drone in the air it would be an easy spot & kill, but that might be a bit extreme for a simple car burglary. Collateral damage might take out a few innocents as well.

37 Good people should never September 1, 2014 at 12:38 PM

live in fear of bad people.

Time the ‘cull the heard’ of tweekers, degenerates, molesters and other sorts of inhuman scum.

Start with amnesty. Forgive all past crimes as of today. If they commit any new crime, they get tried and if found guilty the punishment is death. Simple, straight forward, fast to carry out. We’ll soon see who’s a mental case, who is scum and who can rise above the chaos.

38 Old Guy September 1, 2014 at 12:54 PM

Wake up folks . . . This is going on everywhere: Concord, Walnut Creek, Clayton, and elsewhere. It is a sign of the times and the deterioration in many people of common, decent values and respect for others property. We (society) has raised a generation of people who have absolutely no value for the rights of others . . . Not sure there is a way of fixing the problem that won’t take at least 20 years to raise a responsible society.

39 FECKLESS September 1, 2014 at 1:12 PM

Even if one were caught, convicted and sentenced is probable they would do little time in jail. Law passed back in 2011 made it possible for convicted Felons to serve multi-year sentences in county jails. Also changed sentencing on 500 crimes and automatically cuts any sentence given IN HALF.

CA County Jails now have convicted Felon inmates with decade plus sentences. Means less bed space for misdemeanor property criminals due to jail overcrowding.

Deterrence of misdemeanor property crimes by threat of incarceration in CA was rendered a JOKE when the democrat controlled legislature passed of AB-109.

Property criminals know because of overcrowding they have little to fear if they are caught.

Bonilla and DeSaulnier both voted for the law.

They voted to make prison overcrowding not their problem by forcing it down onto the 58 counties.

We are basically on our own.

40 smash and dash September 1, 2014 at 1:17 PM

If the police don’t care about these crimes, then are there any options for citizens to come together? Can we use this forum to create a solution? I have been burglarized there, as well as friends, and feel helpless to stop it.

41 Cat Wrangler September 1, 2014 at 2:01 PM

Why do a few creepy apples have to ruin it for the rest of the bunch?

42 Buster September 1, 2014 at 2:02 PM

Some good ideas here but they all take funding.
Funding to buy cameras, support, and maintenance.
There is the price of the cameras but the total cost of the system could be a problem.

43 Just take out the shrubs September 1, 2014 at 2:12 PM

It’s a lot less work than killing everyone who may commit a crime. Jeez.

44 Anon September 1, 2014 at 2:15 PM

#,27, The only monitoring of video would be to review after a crime is committed.
As Claycord has done in the past – put up their images here and let the community catch them.

45 Ven Xeter September 1, 2014 at 2:38 PM

Feckless is the only poster on this entire thread who has a clue. What good would catching these criminals do when California has an official policy of “catch and release”? I would wager any amount of money that those responsible have already been arrested multiple times only to be set free to continue victimizing their community. Until Californians wake up and start voting for politicians who are tough on crime, we will continue to get exactly what we vote for.

46 me September 1, 2014 at 2:49 PM

#34 has it right…inexpensive motion activated hunting cameras have been used to ID theif easily in these scenarios in the past. What you choose to do once you know who did it is a choice you will have to make. Police wont do much. I like the bait car… get the word out.
My guess is its kids from Montecitto, entitled wanna be thugs.

47 ConcordMike September 1, 2014 at 2:55 PM

To the poster who mentioned “Who has time to sit and monitor a security camera”…
You don’t sit and monitor surveillance security cameras.
When something occurs or is reported, you “search” the DVR for the time period in question. Then you publish the images to capture the idiots.
By the way, there are traffic cameras everywhere nowadays that are monitored 24/7.

48 Time for a Vigilante Bait Car September 1, 2014 at 3:22 PM

chocked full of Mt. Diablo Rattlers….

49 Bob Foo September 1, 2014 at 3:33 PM

These crimes continue to happen because no local politicians nor members of their families have been victimized at this location.

Just wait, the minute someone “important” is affected, we’ll see some change.

50 Mieke September 1, 2014 at 3:52 PM

This is probably done at night because from the looks of this mess, and it’s done during the day, I’m surprised that no one saw it happen and reported it. This was done by groups of individuals at night.

51 Mary Fouts September 1, 2014 at 3:59 PM

What a bunch of pukes! I never go to Lime Ridge given my vet’s description of the area as “Tick Ridge”. However, Briones Regional Park’s (where I do walk and hike) parking lots have break-ins from time to time, seem to go in clusters. The “regular” park users are very vigilant about watching, informing others, and not displaying valuable in vehicles.

52 Elwood September 1, 2014 at 4:34 PM

Meth is a wonderful drug.

Tweekers should be shot on sight and a bounty paid to the shooter.

We need a home grown Bernie Goetz.

53 Salenian4 September 1, 2014 at 9:34 PM

Live in Lafayette and we go to Briones, it has happen so many times I just have my daughter drop me off now. Live off of Reliez Valley Road and another vehicle was broken into. Something needs to be done

54 Duck September 2, 2014 at 2:57 AM

@ No answer.

It would be very simple to achieve.
A 12′ x 2” to 3 ” steel pole with a steel lock box mounted to the top of it.
Search ” trail cam’s”
You can buy one for under $400 that will take excellent color photo’s and video and save them to a SD card. Some of them can be accessed through a smart phone and or a PC.
Hunters have been using them with awesome results for years.
Search “Trail cam pictures and video” .
Yes it’s really that easy !

55 Duck September 2, 2014 at 3:03 AM

Here is an example of the quality video some of these trail cam’s record.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nS8g3F4JXpw

56 Food for thought September 2, 2014 at 4:23 AM

Why do meth head tweaks live so long? They poison their bodies and reek havoc on society to get their next continual fix. Yet they seem to live on, despite the assumption that someone regularly consuming caustic chemicals would surely die an early death. Same for the heroin and crack/cocaine, prescription pill users and abusers …. Seems like the rest of us who try to live healthy lives and eat right are the ones getting cancers and other diseases that cause these tweaks to outlive us. Is this the new Darwinism?

57 Nutcreek Frontier September 2, 2014 at 10:39 AM

The answer doesn’t seem like rocket science to me, bait car and police surveillance operation. The tweakers will hit like hungry trout.

58 Tar and Feather Them September 2, 2014 at 12:50 PM

In the old days society took care of people who did things like that with a tar and feather party followed by a short ride on a fence rail out of town.

That would work for me in this case. :-)

59 Anon September 2, 2014 at 3:24 PM

Park tour car at the college and walk over there to start your hike, a little extra walking will help you .

60 Brunner September 2, 2014 at 4:40 PM

I frequent this lot for trail running, usually early morning. So far I haven’t had a problem. I always notice clothes dumped on the lot, or sticking out of the trash receptacles. And it looks like a place for people to eat fast food as there are always McDonalds and In-N-Out trash there, along with alcohol bottles and cans. So, we know it’s a secluded place to hang out that has been documented in police reports, but there must not be resources to patrol it with the presence of the homeless / tweaker population in all the surrounding areas. Lots of good ideas here that should be presented at a city council meeting. They are our elected officials that should at least hear the complaints. Thanks to everyone for posting comments. I’ll think again before I park there.

61 JLew September 2, 2014 at 11:32 PM

I think you’re onto something @Original G (#26)……most logical idea I’ve seen.

62 Anon September 3, 2014 at 10:36 AM

With trash and broken glass on the ground, seems obvious you are taking a chance parking your car there.

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