Concord Council to Vote on Eliminating Lifetime Benefits for Future Council Members – Current Incumbents Excluded from Plan

August 26, 2014 10:15 am · 66 comments

City of Concord

The Concord City Council will vote tonight on whether or not to eliminate the lifetime benefit perk for future elected officials in the City of Cocnord.

Currently, Concord City council members are the only part-time employees who receive benefits, and if they serve a minimum of five years, they receive benefits for life.

The new plan would exclude any current council members (incumbents).


Background & Fiscal Impact (text from the Council agenda):


For current elected officials who are currently enrolled in CalPERS, the City pays 9.642% of the elected officials compensation toward CalPERS retirement benefits (equates to $1,504 per year for council members and a $694 per year for the Treasurer). This cost will be eliminated with future elected officials who are not already members of CalPERS or a reciprocal public retirement plan upon election.

The current cumulative annual cost for retiree health benefits for all former elected officials who have retired from the City of Concord is approximately $29,000, representing the City’s share of annual health care premiums for the four retired elected officials who receive the retiree health care benefit. Due to the new cost sharing formula, the retired elected officials also pay a portion of the cost for this benefit, and bear a percentage share of any future cost increases.

With the changes Staff is recommending, future retiree health benefit costs for newly elected officials will be nearly eliminated due to the new vesting schedule. Additionally, the City’s retiree health care costs are further reduced once a retiree reaches eligibility for Federal Medical benefits (generally after reaching the age of 65). Upon Medicare eligibility, the City’s CalPERS benefit is secondary to the retiree and therefore the City’s costs for their health care premiums are significantly reduced.


Consistent with their policy of sound fiscal management, the Mayor and the City Councilmembers have publicly voiced their desire to review and address the issue of retiree health care for elected officials; additionally, the Council has already taken steps to address retiree health care costs by requiring existing and retired employees, including elected officials, to pay more of their medical insurance costs. Doing this decreased the City’s annual costs and unfunded liabilities significantly.

During the June 3, 2014 City Council meeting, Mayor Grayson established an ad hoc committee to study and review the City’s retiree medical program for elected officials. The ad hoc committee reported back to the full Council on July 22, 2014, and recommended changes to the retiree health and retirement benefits for future elected officials. The Council adopted Resolution 14-65, A Resolution Providing Direction to Staff to Work with CalPERS to Modify Pension and Retiree Medical Benefits for Elected Officials. Specifically, the resolution directs staff to work with CalPERS to bring back to Council the necessary documents to: (1)
eliminate CalPERS pension benefits for incoming, newly elected officials, and (2) significantly limit eligibility for retiree medical benefits for incoming, newly elected officials by establishing a stringent vesting and retirement age criteria.

Ron Leone time traveler August 26, 2014 at 10:34 AM

On his campaign website Ron Leone says “this year we voted to eliminate lifetime medical for Councilmembers.”

How is that possible if they haven’t even voted yet?

Buster August 26, 2014 at 10:44 AM

They voted last month to end it, but there is another requirement of the state.

Whatever August 26, 2014 at 10:46 AM

Ron Leone is also the one who tried to write off $110,000 in health insurance on his taxes and got busted. The city pays for his insurance!! He’s a fraud. PLEASE do not re-elect him….if he is WE will be paying for his healthcare for the rest of his life. He is not a good representation of who I want helping run Concord.

@ # 1 August 26, 2014 at 10:52 AM

I wonder if the city council gets together to rehearse its meetings prior to the real meetings to save time and show everybody thinks alike on the board. That kind of meeting is probably illegal, who know’s. Elected leaders don’t have to follow laws all that much any more.

Cuzzzzzzzzzzz.............. August 26, 2014 at 10:59 AM

Smoke and mirros folks…….smoke and mirror.
Leone should take the medical, which he would have to pay a portion of, from his teacher retirement, Hoffmeister should be forced to take her medical that is offered from the City of Clayton. These are part-time positions and they are really not “employees” of the city. The are the leaders of the city, the ones who direct employees. They should get no free medical, but should have to pay a portion like everyone else.

Complete Concord BS

Fact Pointer Outer August 26, 2014 at 10:59 AM

What about Community College Board members? and some of the other dozen or so special districts we have. They go to one freakin meeting a month and get healthcare benefits!!!! Lets pick the lowest hanging fruit first and cut this cancer out of our public life. LEECHES!

I'm just saying.... August 26, 2014 at 11:17 AM

My neighbor worked for the City of Concord and retired 15 years ago. He gets $8,000 a month pension plus full health benefits from the City of Concord plus social security on top of that!. This city is corrupt and we taxpayers are paying for them to live the high life.

Dorothy August 26, 2014 at 11:28 AM

Of course they are exempt. After all the hard work they do I’m sure they feel they have earned every bit of their perks. By not exempting the next batch to come down the road they are saying they didn’t leave much for new comers to do.

No part time job should have permanent life time perks.

No_Incumbents August 26, 2014 at 11:32 AM

If only we could get all the crooks in Washington to do this. Why do we continue to re-elect these useless people? They only serve to benefit themselves and the corporations that buy them. They are PUBLIC SERVANTS not rock stars.

#TermLimits #CampaignFinanceReform #NoDarkMoney

BagsFlyFree August 26, 2014 at 11:34 AM

Concord voters..Want to save $3,000+ from Concord’s annual budget and take back control from the Seeno’s, POA, and the Garaventas? Simple.. Vote out Leone and Grayson!!!!

We surely can elect people not backed by the same interests that siphon over 59% of your city budget, are currently being investigated by the FBI for defrauding Contra Costa residents, or those who charge ridiculous rates for waste collection on 15 year franchise agreements with 50k “community kickbacks.”

Notice the “buddy” placement of the campaign signs now posted throughout Concord? We don’t need chummy City Council members who are entrenched for another 4 years, receive lifetime benefits, siphon $$ to only downtown/police demands, and cater to the same old interests who get free passes in this city every day.

Our roads are crumbling, the extensions of Concord have no vision for modernizing, and crime rates are consistently high for areas we have no real plan for. We need leaders with vision, and new ideas to balance Concord and pull up its tarnished reputation.

Laura, Ron, Tim… Lets walk Monument, Solano, Willow Pass, and the city parks at night.. How is your city really doing with you at the helm?

Don’t let cheesy signs buy your vote!
Vote no on Q!

BFF Out!

The Theorist August 26, 2014 at 11:45 AM

Lipstick on a pig folks!!
They are misdirecting your attention so you don’t see the man behind the curtain trying to fill in the potholes (in our streets) that are the major financial structural flaws in the way the city is being run … proven by the fact that the markets and economy has turned around but yet they want to continue squeezing more tax money out of us (Measure Q, part duex).
Say no to Measure Q. say no to the incumbents who dug us this deep in the hole!

Mary August 26, 2014 at 11:58 AM

Ron Leone knows how to scam the system better than anyone.
He has done that with the long time defunct Mt Diablo Hospital board which he collected benefits from for years although he did nothing.
And now he is digging his greedy hands into the City of Concord pie.
Laura Hoffmeister is not in Leone’s league but she is another scammer.

There should be no benefits for any part time elected official. They should be volunteering out of civic duty and not the outlandish perks they vote for themselves.

J.D. August 26, 2014 at 12:00 PM

+1 @ #8 Dorothy.
What’s the point of it anyway if incumbents are exempt?

Moneypenny August 26, 2014 at 12:04 PM

We need leaders with vision. Not spongers!!! @ I’m Just Saying #7, this is abhorrent!!! $8,000 a month plus benefits for life???? I’m sure your neighbor is gleefully laughing all the way to the bank. How about overhauling the system?? Where are the picketers and the protesters outside City Hall?? Only when people make a stink will things change…..

Anon August 26, 2014 at 12:08 PM

The new plan would exclude any current council members
We need to vote in all new council members!

Random Task August 26, 2014 at 12:27 PM

obviously they are not being re hired and are running like the rats they are ……..yet the lemmings will still keep em on and giving them everything they own and only following the same deity ………oh woah sounds like the church scam …..well if it works why not use the same scam ……criminals always follow suit ……….and the dems are now letting their constituents out early ……wow nice little scam going on there ……..

Silva August 26, 2014 at 12:29 PM

Now I’m begining to see why Concord’s going straight down the toilet. We can and must stop this gang’s gravy train.

California Nightmare August 26, 2014 at 12:45 PM

Ron Leone is not my first choice for council either, but this year I am voting for him, Laura Hoffmeister and Mayor Tim Grayson.

Yes, I am voting for all the incumbents.

Why? Because the devil you know (in this case) is better than the devil you don’t know.

Lurking on the ballot is a true disaster for Concord. I am speaking of Harmish Kumar.. Dr, Kumar (PHD in Psychology) served on the HRC for several years. Having listened to him on occasion and having read something about his positions, he really comes across as one-trick pony.

“If we just build enough poverty housing in Concord and give it to the homeless, all will be well. Crime will be solved and we all will live happily.” That about sums him up.

We just can’t allow such a profoundly naive person, even if well intentioned, to have a seat on the City Council.

If the Anti-Leone forces gather enough momentum, what will we end up with? Someone much worse for the city.

Nature Lover August 26, 2014 at 12:49 PM

There should not be lifetime medical benefits for part-time workers. Heck, full time workers in private industry do not receive lifetime medical benefits. Why should this perk be given to City, County, State, or unionized public service workers? They earn just as much if not more than comparable private industry workers and receive outrageous pensions compared to private industry where social Security and the 401k you as an individual have contributed to is it for retirement income.. I am not voting for any more tax increases. And, I am not voting for Leone or Grayson.

dilligafman August 26, 2014 at 12:50 PM

No lifetime freebies! For them or any politician. Let them pay into their own retirement like every other working stiff!

Random Task August 26, 2014 at 12:58 PM

@14 really this is a dem state to over haul anything means incumbents giving up free money and benefits for life ….yeah not going to happen what is going to happen is higher taxes …more money being lost to corrupt buyouts and land deals that benefit the politicians and slap tax payers in the face …….with no checks and or balances you will be sitting here in 2 years complaining about this same thing again …….you know what happens when you don’t vote for change ……nothing

Reality Slap August 26, 2014 at 1:01 PM

“Concord Council to Vote on Eliminating Lifetime Benefits for Future Council Members – Current Incumbents Excluded from Plan”

How convenient. NIMBY has just taken on a whole new meaning … Not in my benefit years.

Cuzzzzzzzzzzz.............. August 26, 2014 at 1:03 PM

@ #7 – what position did your nieghbor hold to get such high retirement? I have a friend that retired from a upper management with the county and doesn’t get that kind of money. Was this person a division director as the average rank and file worker doesn’ even get half of that. Or is it another lie on Claycord. But I agee no part-time job should get full benefits. Even the county pro-rates part-time benefits
#19 – voting for Grayson is also a vote for the devil as he is firmly entrenched with the POA, Seeno and Garaventa. In other words the crap will continue.

Random Task August 26, 2014 at 1:07 PM

so keep the criminals wow that is exactly what they are giving you … mean the dems ploy to give you no way out works perfectly on you and so many others this has been the norm for 40 years and where are we bums sleeping next to sand boxes …..bart crime through the roof ……low income housing is still going up and section 8 landlords are throwing this city to the wolves …….well they are of course slipping thousands to the incumbents which is why we are where we are …….yet yes lets keep it the same since you obviously are ok with how things are…..and what a slime ball and you refer to it wants to get on the board and that will end all days ….one person will rule the board and throw money down the drain ……..wait so keeping 3 cronies on the board who are obviously bilking the city for everything they can is better than one lone sheep ………….follow the money and it sounds like you are getting some as well ……..we are not fooled by your ploys to redirect and play dead ……….with out change what happens ?…………NOTHING

The Mamba August 26, 2014 at 1:07 PM

Hmmmm, interesting, I thought that this would save more money, those numbers sure aren’t very impressive.

Chronic Halitosis August 26, 2014 at 1:22 PM

If you follow the money you can freeze assets confiscate under emanate domain. Just figure out who is getting unfairly overcompensated and who signed the agreements.. Investigate Everyone elected they are not free normal citizens with normal privacy rights. You want to end 100k per annul ASAP #7 Post the name and address of that neighbor who gets 8k. Why are they being over compensated? Hush Hush money? Isn’t this all public info?

jtkatec August 26, 2014 at 1:49 PM

The City Council should be more cognizant of Detroit and Vallejo.

Not sure how Detroit retiree benefits will end up, but I’m sure it’s pretty tense for those retirees.

Miranda August 26, 2014 at 1:51 PM

Yes, the city and state council members are the largest gangs in existence. They get all the freebies and call all the shots. Take away their unearned benefits, I hope all of the other states besides California follow suit.

@Random Task August 26, 2014 at 2:07 PM

I am truly shocked that you of all people have not mentioned that Ron and Tim switched parties from Rs to Ds just to win favor and to keep getting Bonvilla support. Can we get any more slimey than that???????????

Do have mention that part of these benefits are Calpar(?) rules not necessarily city. But Ron has been caught double dipping; he took cash instead of benefits because he had other coverage.

Kumar is a mess but at least he has a good heart. There are other candidates that woud be good.

Laura sounds good but I never see her interacting with actual citizens. She doesn’t play well with others unless they are state/county officers. Let’s remember the Helen Allen give away money deal, she voted for, too.

Follow the money August 26, 2014 at 2:14 PM

and anyone who is willing to illegally post signs will do just about anything else behind closed doors. They think they can get away with anything.

I find it hard to believe that they can even hold this meeting in the first place since they announced at the last meeting that the next one was in September. Just because they post it on the city website doesn’t mean the whole city even knows about it.

Of course, they want this passed now so they can take credit for it in their campaign material, so they had to do it fast, just watch.

Tinknocker August 26, 2014 at 2:25 PM

I just finished reading on Yahoo that California is the #1 least tax friendly state. Come November, California and Concord want us to approve more taxes for for more waste. Why do they think unions and other municipalities are taking away health insurance for folk that don’t even work there any more. get serious, two terms as a city councilman and you have health insurance for life, and turn around and tell Concord Citizens they are going to cut Concord City services if we don’t approve a continuing tax hike. My wife and I are retired and on a fixed income which does not take into account that utilities and everything else keeps going up. City Council is not a full time job. Stop it for all of them, NOW!

Illegal Signs August 26, 2014 at 3:30 PM

I wonder if illegalled posted campaign signs can be reported under Graffiti laws? Would the police do anything if you called the hotline? Could you take them to small claims court for messing with your property or coming onto your property or would you need a no trespasing sign?

Terry Kremin August 26, 2014 at 3:54 PM

They are only eliminating it for NEW elected.

Grayson and Leone will still get it, And Edi Birsan will qualify for it.

I brought up contracts for them where they would either refuse the coverage, unless they serve over 25 years, or would compensate for the city for all costs.

It was pointed out that a contract might not be enforceable. That is true of all contracts – you never know until someone reneges. Who do they think is going to renege?

After that ONLY Edi Birsan spoke up saying he would sign a contract. Grayson and Leone were suddenly fixated on their desk and hands.

CC Times editorial on Monday also ripped them for this:

and I sent a letter to the editor in reply:

Dear editor:

Thank you for presenting some of the details regarding free lifetime healthcare for Concord City Council debate. At the meeting the City of Concord presented the committee’s findings on the lifetime benefits (a committee suddenly announced two days after I announced a petition to ask to get rid of the perk), I presented exactly what you stated: Sign individual contracts stating that the council member will refuse the coverage, or compensate the city for the policy and its management costs, and dispel notions of entitlement attitudes. One council member, Edi Birsan spoke up and agreed to sign a contract. The other eligible council members were suddenly very focused on their hands and the desk, and didn’t look up until moving on to the next item.

I brought up contracts, described above, at the meeting for inclusion in the plan. I was then dismissed back to my seat, forcing me to yield the floor, and only then was a discussion started about why it just wasn’t feasible. A point at which public comment was no longer possible.

The major issue was that it might not be enforceable. If I had been allowed, I would have pointed out that enforceability is an issue with any contract. The major point that was omitted from the Council’s discussion, however, is that enforcement is only tested if someone reneges on the contract. So unless it is known someone would renege on their word and contract, it would be perfectly binding. What exactly are they worried about in enforcing the contracts?

Casey August 26, 2014 at 4:11 PM

It is so important to get the word out that was we read on campaign signs is not always true. Leone is taking credit for saving 70% of Open Space for the Concord Naval Weapons Station. Funny I seem to recall many other people working very hard to save open space:
1. Going door to door
2. Attending many Council, CAC and Neighborhood meetings
3. Gathering signature every Thursday night at Todos Santos Square
Where was Leone? I would rather vote for someone honest.

BONNIE REED August 26, 2014 at 4:14 PM


Aspirin August 26, 2014 at 4:53 PM

Add up the benefits enjoyed by public employees and compare them to the benefits enjoyed by everyone else and a frightening picture emerges: Our tax dollars are going to waste. And not just here in Concord. It is all across the USA.

Random Task August 26, 2014 at 5:10 PM

WELL what do you expect they are doing as they have done for 40 years …maybe just maybe the eyes are opening and seeing the corruption and outright criminal acts being portrayed by elected <<<<…officials who apparently are above the laws and take kickbacks as well as cash up front for benefits …what who approved that ….wow ……guess the dems got it good and want to keep …with the keep it the same lemmings posting looks like another 40 years and maybe they will have had enough ………will this state still be here …that is the question………

Terry Kremin August 26, 2014 at 5:34 PM

@California Nightmare #19 –

There are other options than just Kumar. Just that the rest of us don’t have $30,000+ laying around to finance our own campaigns.

Terry Kremin August 26, 2014 at 5:37 PM

And I will not be there tonight – but I will be watching it streaming as I prepare a lecture for tomorrow!

Although watching Helix get so upset that I dared challenge what he, err, his committee determined as the best answers was rather interesting.

Kad August 26, 2014 at 5:44 PM

Casey – You are correct. Leone’s signs regarding open space are not true. I attended many, many, many meetings and I did not see him there asking for open space. The CNWS Neighborhood Alliance, East Bay Regional Park, Green Belt Alliance and other groups made that happen, not Ron.

Terry Kremin August 26, 2014 at 5:53 PM

@Kad #41, et al.

If only more voters were as well versed as most of you!

They see a sign and figure it must be true. They can say pretty much whatever they want, and as long as no one has the money to call them out with as much publicity as the signs get, its a win for the politician.

@KAD August 26, 2014 at 6:02 PM

Ron’s signs are not true about him not wanting widen Denkinger at various meetings about the CNWS, he was asked directly and stated he did want to widen streets. He changes to suit who he is talking to or gives what he thinks people want to hear. Just about as low as you can get. Laura has done the same thing, she never takes a stand just blames others, like it’s not up to city it’s county issues. The city can protest issues, we do not have to take it from the county.

Proof about Ron August 26, 2014 at 6:05 PM

Ron’s biggest supporter is Seeno. Do you really think they want CNWS as open space?????????????????? And they all ready have proved they willl break the law to build what and where they want, just ask people near Ayers and Olive.

Malice in Wonderland August 26, 2014 at 6:41 PM

@#44 – Seeno’s company did not make the cut for master developer at CNWS. The development plan has already been substantially finalized and the process was subject to public comment. Do you have any facts or do you just spew nonsense and hope everyone will believe you?

MaidenWench August 26, 2014 at 6:44 PM

So they voted against it, because they know it’s not fiscally feasible, or sustainable, or maybe because it’s morally unfair and just plain wrong (IMHO), but only for FUTURE council members. Love THAT!! Doesn’t affect current members. How convenient!!

ChampagneKitty August 26, 2014 at 7:01 PM

The Concord city council meeting is starting now. I’ll be watching online.

ChampagneKitty August 26, 2014 at 7:35 PM

Well, that was a short meeting.

Kad August 26, 2014 at 7:54 PM

@Malice in Wonderland – They did not make the Master Developer cut and Ron abstained for voting for the 4 that did. That should tell us all something about him and Seeno.

@ Terry Kremin, #40----Generals aren't accostomed to being questioned, or disagreed with August 26, 2014 at 8:47 PM

and Helix WAS a general in the Army Reserve. He’s a good example of gaming the benefit system; he went on active duty from the Reserve, and retired while on active duty, which allowed him to receive full active duty retirement benefits, rather than the smaller benefit if he had retired from the Reserve. At least he isn’t taking the medical benefit offered by the city, saying he has what he needs, as provided by the Army, and I don’t believe he accepted cash in lieu of the medical, as has Leone.

Boneguy1 August 26, 2014 at 8:56 PM

Let not your hearts be troubled Claytonites – though we are not so lucky.

We will still be paying benefits for the likes of Pete Laurence, Greg Manning, Bill Walcut, Julie Peirce, David Shuey, Hank Stratford and Howard Geller, etc. FOR LIFE! Why because they are they are the entitled. So they keep on taking (as in voting themselves more and more) as we keep on giving.

Leaches all paid for by us suckers!

@Malice August 26, 2014 at 9:15 PM

sorry you did not get what I meant. Ron is supported by Seeno. So he would have had to agree with no open space SO his campaign signs are a lie. Yes, we know Seeno didn’t make the cut but that doesn’t mean they can’t try for smaller pieces from the final developer.

So what happened August 26, 2014 at 9:16 PM

details. I was working so coudn’t see tv. Any comments on last minute meeting being called? Any speakers that made good points?

Cuzzzzzzz...... August 26, 2014 at 9:17 PM

While I agree Ron is a sleaze don’t for get the other tow that are runnng. Tim is a snake. A person can tell when talking to him he can’t be trusted and Laura has been on the council way to long. Also she has health care thru the city of Clayton. Why doesn’t she us the Clayton health care???? I can guess that Clayton has a premium split so she would have to pay.

Terry Kremin is correct there are lots of people running this time. Enough to choose replacements for Leone, Grayson and Hoffmeister.

Cuzzzzzzz...... August 26, 2014 at 9:20 PM

E/C on my comment should read “forget the other two running” and not “for get the other tow running” Trying to type while on the phone is not a good thing

THE BLACK NIGHT August 26, 2014 at 9:39 PM

The entire council needs to go along with the members of the planning commission. I am tired of these people forcing what they want on us. If they are reelected then I hope we can get enough support to recall them all.

Its clear we don’t want the lifetime medical for these council members but I’m also curious how many of you want development of the base for 30,000-50,000 people, and development of downtown housing for 10,000-20,000 people as planned? Would you support council members or ballot measures that would stop this development?

If You think the homeless situation is bad now... August 27, 2014 at 5:23 AM

Just wait until Kumar and Birsan team up and support MORE low income housing and safe havens for homeless! Been downtown lately? Would you put your in-laws up Premier Inn? Would you have a picnic at Baldwin Park? Have you taken a walk down the gang and prostitute infested areas of Monument and Clayton Corridor???

@Czzz August 27, 2014 at 7:21 AM

I don’t think people understand the medical issue. If they all ready have medical coverage then they can take money instead from Concord. That is the problem. If they have other coverage they shouldn’t be getting cash from city.

RunDogRun August 27, 2014 at 7:53 AM

These City Councils exist
anymote for the sole purpose
of self-perpetuation because it’s
a meal ticket at taxpayer
expense. If they can’t
tighten their belts like the
rest of us, they need to get
out. Three quarters of them
should resign just out of
disgrace and that goes for
the Clayton City Council
as well.

Silva August 27, 2014 at 8:41 AM

#56, I absolutely would.

@ #58 August 27, 2014 at 8:57 AM

Concord chooses to give cash. Other agencies do not follow this policy. If a county worker has better health benefits from a spouse and takes them the county employee does not get a cash equivelent, they get nothing. And for the record no county employee or county elected official has any free benefits. There is a premium split for medical/dental and a contribution for retirement. Lots of County employees will do the double dental route as dental doesn’t pay much, but very few carry double medical.
Bottom line with Laura is she has a premium split in Clayton and free with Concord. Fine take the Concord while “serving” but once out of office none of these people should be getting free medical for life. Like Terry Kremin said Edi is the only one that will not take free medical for life, and being self employeed is the one that needs it. Maybe Seeno, Garaventa and the POA can pony up for Ron, Tim and Laura’s life time medical since those three are bought and paid for by those mentioned above.

Tom Hilton August 27, 2014 at 11:34 AM

Some facts
1. The City Council members do not get money in lieu of medical, the staff and Police do (something like 400 to 600 dollars) this was ended 2 years ago.

2. Affordable Housing actually starts with incomes of $80,000 in Concord. The issue of medium, low and very low income allocations is mostly up to the market builders of those facilities none of which have been built in Concord for years because the current market is at the affordable limits as was detailed in the Downtown plan workshop I attended

3. The whole Council including Birsan have repeated their position that they have no tolerance for criminal behavior by the homeless. Birsan even said at one point, get help or get out and like the rest of the council has supported sucessful outreach groups. Though he goes further than the rest by bringing fruit to the shelters, participating in the counts, doing ride alongs and at the last party he was at he took all the left overs to the Respite Center and Shelter on Arnold Industrial.

@ Tom Hilton August 27, 2014 at 12:20 PM

Another important fact is that Edi Birsan has chosen not to take the life time medical……That is a very very very important fact.

..... August 27, 2014 at 12:45 PM

Must be election time – all of the lying politicians are out in force.

But I’m repeating myself.

Casey August 27, 2014 at 3:40 PM

Malice # 52 I was wondering who wasy paying for the LARGE signs Leone has all over town. I should have known it would be Seeno.

Casey August 27, 2014 at 3:45 PM

If we want change, we all need to step up and take time to vote in November. The only way of removing unwanted council members is to vote them out. Please talk to your neighbors, family and friends.

RunDogRun August 27, 2014 at 8:18 PM

And, while I’m at it, since
when did Clayton need a
City Manager who wears
jewelry? In fact, since when
did Clayton need a City
Manager at all.

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