Claycord – Talk About Politics

August 22, 2014 18:00 pm · 337 comments


This post is “Talk About Politics”.

Please use this post to talk about politics, and keep politics out of the “whatever” thread.

Thank you, and be kind to each other!

1 Always Right August 22, 2014 at 6:19 PM

Not seeing very many Obama bumper stickers these days.

Rubio/Carson 2016.

2 Say What ? August 22, 2014 at 6:20 PM

How about that, to obama administration, 9/11 was a “Man Caused Disaster”

” The White House upped the ante Friday on the terrorist Islamic State of Iraq and al-Sham (ISIS), declaring that the videotaped beheading of American photojournalist James Foley is “a terrorist attack” ”

So 9/11 was a man caused disaster and Ft. Hood, Texas was workplace violence, both on American soil. Yet a single American is killed in Iraq and that’s an act of terrorism.

Well I’m sure glad, they cleared that up.

3 SKS August 22, 2014 at 6:21 PM

The Obama Administration is uninformed and naive to think a western government can reason with terrorists. Obama’s attempt to placate the Middle East with is apology tour is an epic failure. He doesn’t understand peace through strength, the power of influence, and decision-making.

Obama’s rhetoric is empty and his policies feckless. He called ISIS a
“A JV organization”. If there are any amateurs, it is Obama and his minions.

And the centrifuges are still spinning in Tehran.

4 What Joy August 22, 2014 at 6:38 PM

Another person with Tuberculosis skips.
Nanny Sanctuary state of California.
How wonderful “Public health officials, …, feel he poses a health risk for to the public …”

Another Tuberculosis patient has skipped town and they can’t find him.
Last month a Tuberculosis patient that went missing from Stockton was arrested way down in KERN county.

Guess all that matters to democrat politicians is building up a future voting base to ensure their long term dream of endless control and doing the bidding of mega wealthy campaign contributors.

5 Federal Carpet Suitcase August 22, 2014 at 6:39 PM
6 ... August 22, 2014 at 6:43 PM

Press releases they don’t want anyone to see get released on Fridays.

“The Obama administration on Friday proposed new regulations intended to address the religious objections that some nonprofit organizations and priv companies have to providing contraceptive coverage for their employees.”

Will this be the 44th or 45th time obumbles administration changes obamacare.

7 INcoming August 22, 2014 at 6:47 PM

Projected November 4, 2014 Senate Election results.
Democrats 47
Republicans 51
Independents 2

8 Who Said This ? August 22, 2014 at 7:13 PM

Last week question was asked who said this,

“ They murder the innocent to advance a focused and clear ideology. They seek to establish a radical Islamic caliphate, so they can impose a brutal new order on unwilling people, much as Nazis and communists sought to do in the last century. This enemy will accept no compromise with the civilized world. Here is what the al Qaeda charter says about those who oppose their plans: “We will not meet them halfway, and there will be no room for dialogue with them.” These enemies have embraced a cult of death. They are determined to bring days of even greater destruction on our people. They seek the world’s most dangerous weapons. Against this kind of enemy, there is only one effective response: We must go on the offense, stay on the offense, and take the fight to them. ”

President Bush Addresses CENTCOM Coalition Conference
MacDill Air Force Base Tampa, Florida May 2007

Bad mouth Bush all ya want, but he had it nailed it, he was right.

Compare speech of Bush to what obama has collectively said about terrorists in Iraq.

Another apology tour, more bowing or how about some some of those sanctions? Maybe cancel their net flicks account.

9 . August 22, 2014 at 7:16 PM

‘White House Explains Why It Swapped 5 Taliban for Bergdahl But Wouldn’t Consider Foley Ransom’

10 Panic August 22, 2014 at 7:29 PM

‘Soros, Steyer Spend Big in Bid to Rescue Democrats’ Majority’

11 @SKS August 22, 2014 at 7:43 PM

Oh Please, …. get with it … , you obviously haven’t seen the video.
He get’s what he wants.

12 Yhe Phantom August 22, 2014 at 8:08 PM

1. A favorite example of defective Republican thinking is in the area of foreign relations. Diplomacy in foreign relations is complex, dynamic, and sophisticated.

This is a complex subject requiring imagination, good information (intelligence), deep knowledge, and a willingness to abandon archaic clichés.

Republicans are not proficient in such processes…their solution is to work the problem until you can find somebody to attack or threaten to attack…preferably an under-armed dictator.

Often it is the wrong enemy.

13 Anonymous August 22, 2014 at 8:11 PM

Al Sharpton is said to be Obamas point man on Ferguson riots. Jesse J is out since the camera showed him threatening to”Cut off Obamas nuts”

14 Low Information Voters August 22, 2014 at 8:12 PM

Are the ones who are more interested in what’s on TV than who is running for office.

“One of the penalties of refusing to participate in politics is that you end up being governed by your inferiors.”

15 @Always Dilusional August 22, 2014 at 8:12 PM

That my be because he’s not running in 2016

16 Be An Informed Voter August 22, 2014 at 8:18 PM
17 anonmtz August 22, 2014 at 8:32 PM

#1….is that a new Clayton car dealership?

18 What Color Line ? August 22, 2014 at 8:34 PM

‘Obama considering airstrikes in Syria against Islamic State’

19 SKS August 22, 2014 at 8:42 PM

Obama Administration Foreign Policies:

1. We’re closely monitoring the situation.
2. We only learned about it this morning from you guys in the media.
3. We condemn the act.
4. Secretary of State Kerry is in discussion with (fill in the blank).
5. Tee time is 11 am.
6. This is stressful so the President is going fundraising.

20 Kelly Anne August 22, 2014 at 9:08 PM

@sks well said!

21 shadowblade August 22, 2014 at 9:23 PM

“Not seeing very many Obama bumper stickers these days.”

He’s not running for re-election.

22 Dennis August 22, 2014 at 10:21 PM

” Diplomacy in foreign relations is complex, dynamic, and sophisticated.”

Diplomacy is between legitimate governments of sovereign Nations. Islamic extremists aren’t part of that. And PS we don’t negotiate with terrorists (something Obama disagrees with). The ONLY way to stop terrorism is with overwhelming force. Deadly force.

23 obama biden August 22, 2014 at 10:30 PM

Couple broken down used car Liars,
damaged the country with cash-4-clunkers.

‘Report: ‘Cash for Clunkers’ program damaged environment and economy’

24 So democrat of her August 22, 2014 at 10:46 PM
25 shadowblade August 22, 2014 at 10:52 PM

Who Said This ? #8

It’s funny you posted this, as Bush was the one who paved the way for the Islamic extremists.

How did that invasion of Iraq turn out?

26 @25 August 22, 2014 at 11:04 PM

You ain’t seen nuthin’ yet, watch what the community bumbler does to Afghanistan.

27 Anonymous August 22, 2014 at 11:05 PM

Don’t feed the beast he just posts and posts again and again.

28 Dennis August 22, 2014 at 11:10 PM

@Shadowblade it was the Ineptitude of Jimmy Carter that paved the way for religious extremists to seize control of governments, not Bush. Nice try, wrong answer. As always.

29 ... August 22, 2014 at 11:11 PM

What was obama doing when HIS two star General killed in Afghanistan was buried with full military honors at Arlington?
Where were biden, kerry, and hagel?

30 Dennis August 22, 2014 at 11:18 PM

‘Suicide tourism’ to Switzerland has doubled since 2009

By Jacque Wilson, CNN

updated 6:49 PM EDT, Wed August 20, 2014

Between 2008 and 2012, 611 “tourists” came to Switzerland for assisted suicide, according to the published analysis. They arrived from 31 countries around the world, though the majority were from Germany and the United Kingdom.

“In the UK, at least, ‘going to Switzerland’ has become a euphemism for (assisted suicide),” the study authors write. “Six right-to-die organizations assist in approximately 600 cases of suicide per year; some 150-200 of which are suicide tourists.”

This published paper is the result of a pilot study completed for a larger project on assisted suicide in Switzerland being done by experts at the Institute of Legal Medicine in Zurich.

Of the 611 assisted suicides identified during the four-year study period, just over 58% were women. The patients’ ages ranged from 23 to 97, researchers found, but the average age was 69. Close to half of the patients had a neurological disease. Others stated they had cancer, rheumatic disease or cardiovascular disease. Many had more than one condition.

In all but four cases, the assisted suicides were done using sodium pentobarbital. A fatal dose of this drug causes the patient to slip into a deep coma, according to DIGNITAS, a Swiss right-to-die organization that was involved in most of the identified cases.Sodium pentobarbital paralyzes the patient’s respiratory system, causing him or her to stop breathing.

this is the drug claimed to be ‘cruel and unusual punishment’ when used for executions here.

31 shadowblade August 23, 2014 at 4:18 AM


” it was the Ineptitude of Jimmy Carter that paved the way for religious extremists to seize control of governments, not Bush. Nice try, wrong answer. As always.”

Oh…you’re talking about the coup in Iran. That was Eisenhower in 1953. Unless you’re talking about the Beirut Embassy bombing in 1983, followed by the barracks bombing later that same year. That was under Reagan.

BTW…you didn’t exactly answer my last question. How did that invasion of Iraq turn out?

32 Breaking News August 23, 2014 at 6:33 AM

Reported from MSNBC:

White officer shot and killed unarmed black teen just for walking in the middle of the road. Shot him just because he was black.

Reported from FOX News:

Officer in Ferguson, Mo. was protecting himself from an attack after a strong arm robbery suspect punched him in the face so hard it broke his eye socket, the suspect was also reaching for the officers gun after punching him in the face.

The race baiters Al Sharpton, Barack Obama, and Eric holder adding fuel to the fire, inciting riot’s in the black communities throughout the country.

33 GAO says Bergdahl swap was illegal. Will Obama be indicted? August 23, 2014 at 7:11 AM

Just this week Texas Democrats in Travis County decided to indict Governor Rick Perry on charges of abusing his power, as we reported here. He duly turned himself in for booking and a mug shot, and looked pretty snappy in it.

Of course, nothing sticks on President Barack Obama. I’ve always maintained that if the “I-word” should be applied to Obama, there is no better instance than the unilateral decision to negotiate with terrorists for the release of the Taliban Five. It was a clear case of breaking the law.

But don’t take my word for it.

The Pentagon broke the law when it swapped five Taliban leaders for Army Sgt. Bowe Bergdahl earlier this year. The Government Accountability Office (GAO), in a legal opinion issued at the request of congressional lawmakers, said the Defense Department violated the law by failing to notify key Capitol Hill committees at least 30 days in advance. Further, the report said the Pentagon broke another law by using funds that were not technically available.”

So should we expect the Travis County DA to pursue indictment charges against Barack Obama, or Chuck Hagel — who adamantly defended the decision? Now, we all know it wasn’t Hagel’s decision to make — it was done by Obama. But ol’ Teflon Barack ain’t gonna have anything sticking to him.

Once again, the hypocrisy is outrageous. So, I’m waiting to hear from all you progressive socialists — abuse of power? Or is this just what America should expect from y’all — the double standard of integrity and duplicity when it comes to the rule of law. After all, that’s one of Saul Alinksy’s rules for radicals: force your opponent to live up to their standards, while not claiming any yourself. Just peachy.

So will the progressive media just brush this aside? Kinda hard to do in the same week that Democrats indicted a sitting GOP Governor claiming “abuse of power.”

Sen. Lisa Murkowski, R-Alaska, who was among the lawmakers who requested the report, said Thursday that the president “clearly defied” the law. “I hope this opinion by the nonpartisan Government Accountability Office sends a clear signal to the President that his recent shift towards unilateral action is not consistent with this nation’s principles and our carefully designed separation of powers.”

That principle of separation of powers is fundamental to this Constitutional Republic — but then again, we’re living in the Obamaworld of “fundamental transformation.”

34 SKS August 23, 2014 at 7:19 AM

@25 Obama claimed success on Iraq as he stated that the US and its allies were leaving behind a sovereign country.

‘Abandoning’ is the more correct word. .. and now the Obama administration is scrambling every 48 hours to come up with talking points for every international issue that comes up to make it appear that they know what they are doing.

Hagel’s comments the other day about ‘preparing for everything’ at this late stage exemplifies this administration’s lack of strategic thinking.

35 Convicted Murderers freed by ICE, 2013 August 23, 2014 at 7:59 AM

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Los Angeles 6
Pomona 3
San Jose 3
Glendale 2
Sacramento 2
Beverly Hills 1
Huntington Park 1
San Pedro 1
Montrose 1
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Burbank 1
N. Hollywood 1
Chino Hills 1
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La Puenta 1
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Oceanside 1
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Stockton 1
Rancho Cordova 1
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36 Always Right August 23, 2014 at 8:11 AM

People are peeling and scraping off their Obama “bummer stickers” out of shame and embarrassment.

I could understand why some people wanted to vote for him the first time – just to say they voted for the first half black president – but after his disastrous first term?

Fooled by Obama once, shame on him. Fooled by Obama twice, shame on you. Now people are coming to understand that Romney would have been a far superior President.

37 Captain Obvious® August 23, 2014 at 8:15 AM

Barack Obama is the Worst thing that ever happened to America.

38 I have 1 thing to thank the Democrats for August 23, 2014 at 8:58 AM

For destroying property values.

Thank you Democrats for your CRA program.

39 I have 1 thing to thank the Democrats for August 23, 2014 at 9:09 AM

I bought a home that was once worth $550,000 for $295,000.

40 How The Democrats Caused The Financial Crisis Starring HUD Sec Andrew Cuomo & Barack Obama August 23, 2014 at 10:55 AM

When engaging liberals as to whose fault the financial meltdown was… Provide them this video. It started under Jimmy Carter with the CRA which was put on steroids under the leadership of President Bill Clinton and his thug in chief, Sec of HUD, Andrew Cuomo. Then community organizer, Barrack Obama, and his band of criminals, ACORN, aggressively went after banks and lending institutions. They threatened and intimidated the banks,… (the video has been pulled to cover up their connections but the article provides the ) and more information here: Sources point to Obama as a possible starting point to the domino effect that lead to the housing crises we are now facing. Check the provided links and judge for yourself.

41 Lefty August 23, 2014 at 11:08 AM

It’s his wife turn.

42 Economically, Could Obama Be America's Worst President? August 23, 2014 at 11:57 AM

The recession ended four years ago, according to the National Bureau of Economic Research. So Obamanomics has had plenty of time to produce a solid recovery. In fact, since the American historical record is the worse the recession, the stronger the recovery, Obama should have had an easy time producing a booming recovery by now.

Obama likes to tout that we are doing better now than at the worst of the recession. But every recovery is better than the recession, by definition. So that doesn’t mean much.

The right measure and comparison for Obama’s record is not to compare the recovery to the recession, but to compare Obama’s recovery with other recoveries from other recessions since the Great Depression. By that measure, what is clear is that Obamanomics has produced the worst recovery from a recession since the Great Depression, worse than what every other President who has faced a recession has achieved since the Great Depression.

In the 10 previous recessions since the Great Depression, prior to this last recession, the economy recovered all jobs lost during the recession after an average of 25 months after the prior jobs peak (when the recession began), according to the records kept by the Federal Reserve Bank of Minneapolis. So the job effects of prior post Depression recessions have lasted an average of about 2 years. But under President Obama, by April, 2013, 64 months after the prior jobs peak, almost 5½ years, we still have not recovered all of the recession’s job losses. In April, 2013, there were an estimated 135.474 million American workers employed, still down about 2.6 million jobs from the prior peak of 138.056 million in January, 2008.

Ronald Reagan suffered a severe recession starting in 1981, which resulted from the monetary policy that broke the back of the roaring 1970s inflation. But all the job losses of that recession were recovered after 28 months, with the recovery fueled by traditional pro-growth policies. By this point in the Reagan recovery, 64 months after the recession started, jobs had grown 9.5% higher than where they were when the recession started, representing an increase of about 10 million more jobs. By contrast, in April, 2013, jobs in the Obama recovery were still about 2% below where they were when the recession started, about 2 ½ million less, or a shortfall of about 10 million jobs if you count population growth since the recession started, as discussed below.

Obama’s so-called recovery included the longest period since the Great Depression with unemployment above 8%, 43 months, from February, 2009, when Obama’s so-called stimulus costing nearly $1 trillion was passed, until August, 2012. It also included the longest period since the Great Depression with unemployment at 9.0% or above, 30 months, from April, 2009, until September, 2011. In fact, during the entire 65 years from January, 1948 to January, 2013, there were no months with unemployment over 8%, except for 26 months during the bitter 1981 – 1982 recession, which slayed the historic inflation of the 1970s. That is how inconsistent with the prior history of the American economy President Obama’s extended unemployment has been. That is some fundamental transformation of America.

Even Jimmy Carter produced 4 times as much economic growth during his one term as Obama did during his entire first term. In fact, as Anderson notes, real GDP growth under Obama has been the worst of any President in the last 60 years! Even if you double it, it is the Worst in 60 years.

Despite his rhetoric, Obama has failed to deliver for the poor as well. But we know Obama loves the poor, because he has created so many of them. Indeed, the only thing booming under Obamanomics has been poverty. Poverty has soared under Obama, with the number of Americans in poverty increasing to the highest level in the more than 50 years that the Census Bureau has been tracking poverty. Over the last 5 years, the number in poverty has increased by nearly 31%, to 49.7 million, with the poverty rate climbing by over 30% to 16.1%. This is another natural result of negligible economic growth, paltry job creation, declining real wages, and the worst economic recovery since the Great Depression.

These dismal results of Obamanomics have been produced because all of Obama’s economic policies are thoroughly anti-growth, indeed, the opposite of what is needed for long term booming growth. Instead of cutting tax rates, which provides incentives for increased production, Obama has been focused on raising rates. Instead of deregulation, which increases the cost of doing business, and results in barriers to productive activity (see, e.g., Keystone Pipeline), Obama has been all about increasing regulation. Instead of cutting spending, Obama entered office exploding spending during his first two years, and was only restrained when the people elected Republicans to control the House.

And instead of adopting monetary policies that would produce a stable dollar, Obama’s monetary polices have mimicked the devaluationist ones previously embraced by George W. Bush on the way to sagging investment, and with the latter, slow growth. President Obama derided Mitt Romney during the 2012 campaign as proposing to bring back the same economic policies that led to the financial crisis in the first place. But it is Obama who is bringing back precisely those policies, overregulating banks to make loans on the basis of supposed fairness. Moreover, Obama’s Fed has thrown oil on the bonfire with its zero interest rate, and runaway quantitative easing policies. With those policies having been in place for years now, they are the foundation of the current economy, which is just another bubble that will pop when the Fed tries to implement any exit strategy.

Next week I will discuss why and how these misguided, Keynesian monetary policies will only lead to another, even worse financial crisis, probably during Obama’s second term, and why only fundamental monetary reform can restore America to its traditional booming, economic growth.

43 Ricrdoh August 23, 2014 at 12:58 PM

Until Obama is gone we are in limbo. It may seem at times like hell.

44 SKS August 23, 2014 at 1:13 PM

The silence from furian, shadowblade, and Phantom is deafening.

One or all of them will pull out the race card in an attempt to divert attention from Obama’s ineptitude and mismanagement.

45 Yhe Phantom August 23, 2014 at 1:25 PM

Sorry that I could not find anything here that was interesting or even provocative.

Can you guys up your game with something intelligent?

Maybe you could reexamine my remarks on ISIL or Ferguson MO. for inspiration.

The “old” Housing Bubble article is a little lame these days…especially Austrian Economic views on such events.

46 Elwood August 23, 2014 at 1:37 PM

shadowblade August 22, 2014 at 9:23 PM #21

“Not seeing very many Obama bumper stickers these days.”

He’s not running for re-election.

Sarcasm is lost on the tiny-brained folk.

47 Elwood August 23, 2014 at 1:39 PM

shadowblade August 22, 2014 at 10:52 PM #25

Who Said This ? #8

It’s funny you posted this, as Bush was the one who paved the way for the Islamic extremists.

How did that invasion of Iraq turn out?

It turned out just fine until the Arab ****ed it up.

48 shadowblade August 23, 2014 at 2:38 PM

“It turned out just fine until the Arab ****ed it up.”

And how did the Arab **** it up?

49 Rollo Tomasi August 23, 2014 at 4:11 PM

@ #45:

Maybe you should use this as an opportunity to do some charity work, instead of handing the government your money and letting them decide what’s best.

Better yet, head off to Ferguson. Your self-proclaimed expertise and enlightenment will surely help the situation down there. After all, you let your “talents” go to waste in that little dust-up down Sanford way, didn’t you?

50 Obama Lied August 23, 2014 at 4:14 PM

@shadowblade #48

Obama did not want a Status of Forces in Place agreement with Iraq. He said so in one of the debates with Romney.

Senators Graham and McCain were involved in the draw down and said that Iraq was ready to sign up.

Maybe he got it confused with that insurance plane and doctor thing he kept telling us about.

51 Dennis August 23, 2014 at 4:30 PM

“Oh…you’re talking about the coup in Iran. That was Eisenhower in 1953. Unless you’re talking about the Beirut Embassy bombing in 1983, followed by the barracks bombing later that same year. That was under Reagan.”

wrong bozo. I was talking about the failure to deal with the takeover of Iran by militant extremist muslims, and the failure to rescue US citizens from the Embassy, by Jimmy Carter.
Until that happened, extremist muslims were able to cause trouble only in the nation where they lived. After, they expanded and merged into international co-operatives, with international reach.
All aided abetted and funded by Iran.

Before Carter’s failure, militant extremist muslims were local problems. After, they became the world’s problem.

It looks like Obama wants to kick the can down the road a couple more years, and let someone else take the blame for a nuclear Iran and the expansion of militant theocracies all across the Middle East.

52 Aspirin August 23, 2014 at 4:36 PM

our involvement in the Middle east, starting with the forced installation of the Shaw of Iran and our partnership with Saddam has been a record of dismal failure with the idiocy of the Bush Administration being the icing on the cake. No amount of blaming Obama for the Iraq mess will change the record of failure by Bush. Anyone the least bit familiar with Middle East issues should know by now that ANYTHING we do will only make matters worse. We can drop bombs until nothing exists but rubble and all we will have done is to create more terrorists (like ISIS) and more warfare. Beginning with the Crusades we “Christians” have been trying to force our values on the Middle East resulting in countless thousands killed and more terrorists as a result.

53 shadowblade August 23, 2014 at 4:46 PM

“wrong bozo. I was talking about the failure to deal with the takeover of Iran by militant extremist muslims, and the failure to rescue US citizens from the Embassy, by Jimmy Carter.”

The Islamic uprising was a direct result of the brutality of the Shah…which the US, under Eisenhower, supported. Furthermore, Carter did send in the military. Was it his fault they crashed? Are you really this stupid?

“Until that happened, extremist muslims were able to cause trouble only in the nation where they lived. After, they expanded and merged into international co-operatives, with international reach.
All aided abetted and funded by Iran.”

Again…the uprising was in response to the brutality of the Shah…which the US supported.

“Before Carter’s failure, militant extremist muslims were local problems. After, they became the world’s problem.”

Are you seriously trying to blame Iran for Sunni extremism? Apparently, you really are this stupid.

“It looks like Obama wants to kick the can down the road a couple more years, and let someone else take the blame for a nuclear Iran and the expansion of militant theocracies all across the Middle East.”

63 people were killed in the US Embassy bombing in Beirut in 2003, including 17 Americans. Months later, 241 US servicemen were killed in the barracks bombing, also in Beirut. And Reagan’s response was what exactly? I guess he just wanted to kick the can down the road a couple more years.

54 Aspirin August 23, 2014 at 4:47 PM

@Obama Lied #50. The Status of Forces Agreement (SOFA) was signed by GW Bush in 2008. It called for the complete withdrawal of American forces by December 2011. The SOFA expired on 12/31/2011.

Much discussion occurred about renewing the SOFA but since our interests could not be adequately addressed we could not reach an agreement with Maliki so the SOFA was not renewed. Bush agreed to end the SOFA in 2011, not Obama.

55 shadowblade August 23, 2014 at 4:47 PM

“Obama did not want a Status of Forces in Place agreement with Iraq. He said so in one of the debates with Romney.”

Obama was obligated to follow it. And he did. He tried to negotiate with the Iraqi government, but they refused. Fact remains, Bush signed the agreement that resulted in US troops being withdrawn from Iraq.

56 Elwood August 23, 2014 at 4:51 PM

shadowblade August 23, 2014 at 2:38 PM #48

“It turned out just fine until the Arab ****ed it up.”

And how did the Arab **** it up?

Follow current events much?

57 Elwood August 23, 2014 at 4:54 PM

@ pill #52




58 Barack Obama is Jimmy Carter on Steroids August 23, 2014 at 5:31 PM

Carter is very grateful that Obama got elected, Jimmy will no longer be known as the worst president in history.

59 Even the Hapless Jimmy Carter Wasn't as bad as Obama August 23, 2014 at 5:35 PM

Leaders of other countries don’t respect President Barack Obama, said 53 percent of respondents in Gallup’s annual World Affairs poll, conducted Feb. 3-6. That only 53 percent of Americans think this is an indictment of the news media’s coverage of foreign affairs.

He would lead the world by “deed and example,” not try to “bully it into submission,” Sen. Barack Obama wrote in Foreign Affairs magazine in 2007.

In a major foreign policy speech in 2008, Mr. Obama said he would focus on “ending the war in Iraq responsibly; finishing the fight against al-Qaida and the Taliban; securing all nuclear weapons and materials from terrorists and rogue states; achieving true energy security; and rebuilding our alliances to meet the challenges of the 21st century.”

The key elements of his foreign policy were to be a “reset” of relations with Russia, and outreach to Muslims.

To symbolize “reset,” when they met in Geneva, Secretary of State Hillary Clinton presented Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov with a red plastic button modeled on the “easy button” in the Staples ads.

“I have come here to seek a new beginning between the United States and Muslims around the world,” Mr. Obama said in a much ballyhooed speech in Cairo in June, 2009.

No president has talked the talk so well, but walked the walk so badly.

The plastic button Ms. Clinton gave Mr. Lavrov was supposed to say “reset” in English and Russian. But “peregruzka” means “overcharged.” Relations went downhill from there.

To appease Russia, President Obama cancelled a ballistic missile defense treaty with Poland and the Czech Republic. But the more concessions he made, the more contempt with which he was treated by Russian President Vladimir Putin.

His Russian policy has been a total failure. But it hasn’t backfired as much as has Mr. Obama’s “outreach” to Muslims:

• Iran is closer than ever to a nuclear weapon. Mr. Obama weakened economic sanctions as a gesture of goodwill, so now the mullahs have the money to finish the job.

• Saudi Arabia is so angered by Mr. Obama’s appeasement of Iran it refused a seat on the U.N. Security Council; so frightened by it the Saudis are talking quietly with the Israelis about joint military action.

• In what had been our foremost Arab ally, Egypt, the president’s dalliance with the Muslim Brotherhood has alienated both the military and the people.

• Mr. Obama waged war of dubious legality to oust Moammar Gadhafi in Libya, an evil, mean, nasty, rotten guy, but not, since 2005, a threat to the United States. (He gave up his nuclear weapons program because he was afraid what happened to Saddam Hussein might happen to him.)

In the chaotic aftermath, al-Qaida has established a stronghold there. An al-Qaida affiliate murdered U.S. Ambassador Chris Stevens.

• Seventy percent of the 2,313 Americans killed in Afghanistan died after President Obama escalated the war. They died in vain. The Taliban is expected to take over when U.S. troops leave.

• The fighting in Iraq was over when Barack Obama took the oath of office. His inept diplomacy and premature withdrawal of all U.S. troops permitted an al-Qaida resurgence there.

• Worldwide, al-Qaida is as great a threat today as it was in 2001, the director of national intelligence told Congress last month.

• Peace talks between the Israelis and the Palestinians have gone nowhere, which is nothing new. But Barack Obama is the first U.S. president to lose the trust of both Israelis and Palestinians.

• More than 130,000 people have been killed in the civil war in Syria. President Obama threatened to intervene militarily on one side, then, after pressure from the Russians, in effect switched to the other, to the dismay of our European allies.

Because he so often has “led from behind,” blustered and retreated, our enemies don’t fear our president; our allies don’t trust him; neither do they respect him.

American influence has shrunk along with the president’s stature. During the crisis there, Ukraine’s defense minister refused to accept calls from our secretary of defense.

Not even the hapless Jimmy Carter made so big a mess. Relations have soured even with Canada, which is tired of being jerked around on the Keystone pipeline.

It’s time the news media noticed.

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60 et-al August 23, 2014 at 5:37 PM

Aspirin –
Thanks so much for the stroll down memory lane.
Now how would YOU resolve all the worlds woes TODAY.
Placing blame on those whom are gone will not accomplish much. Unless you have nothing to offer of course.

61 @48 August 23, 2014 at 5:45 PM

What usually happens to wimps?

62 SKS August 23, 2014 at 5:46 PM

That’s right Phantom, change the subject.

I find that as such a fervent, even fanatical, support of Obama and policies from the left that you find it “uninteresting”. A lack of objectivity perhaps? Or are you just as bored and disinterested as Obama?

63 Pantaloon August 23, 2014 at 5:57 PM

Elwood, I have to agree with you, it’s all Bush’s fault.

64 Vacation First August 23, 2014 at 6:06 PM

And why should we expect anything less

‘ Smiling Obama swings into action… but once again, it’s on the golf course: President plays again as FBI warn of homegrown ISIS threat and US edges closer to Syria strikes ‘

Meanwhile, while the community organizer plays golf ….
‘ SAS high-tech hunt for the killers of James Foley: ‘Significant force’ of UK elite troops on ground in Iraq ‘

Heard they’re going to build the presidential library and residence on the Italian island of Elba?

65 Yhe Phantom August 23, 2014 at 7:00 PM

If we had agreed to let our troops be subject to their Sharia Law for possible civilian deaths or casualties…we would be ALLOWED to replace their brave Muslim warriors with our United States military, fighting for freedoms Iraqi Muslims, Yazidis, and Christians do not want or need…

WE WOULD NOT DO THAT TO OUR TROOPS! That’s what the President refused to do…any President would refuse. That is why we left Iraq! It was their choice…

This little dust up with 4-5000 ISIL irregular militia chasing 350,000 Iraqi military away, as they throw down and abandon their weapons, and strip off their US supplied army combat uniforms is totally Iraq’s responsibility and has nothing to do with anything Bush or Obama have done.

“On paper, ISIS should be no match for the Iraqi and Kurdish forces. The ISF had more than 270,000 TROOPS AND ABOUT 340 TANKS, while a conservative estimate OF THE PESHMERGA (KURDS) FORCE IS 80,000.

This is a self-inflicted process that the Iraqi government has wrought upon itself.

We should not to be carelessly used or allow even one soldier to die fighting instead of them.

Is it not obvious that the Kurds, Yazidis, Sunni’s and Shiite Muslims will not fight for their faith, their freedom, their rights, or their women and children?

But they sure want us to support their governments and rescue their people…all the time.


66 Yhe Phantom August 23, 2014 at 7:13 PM

What Arab is Elwood talking about?


And what’s the Jimmy Carter comparison all about…he didn’t get Impeached. Nixon’s was a shame and Clinton’s was funny.

You guys have missed at least six major issues where Yhe Phantom takes a very CONSERVATIVE course, yet you are so blind with irrational hate you missed them all.

Ask me about gun control, or Federal student loans, PELL grants, or Elective termination of pregnancy (abortion).

Funny huh!

67 Just Sayin' August 23, 2014 at 7:14 PM

@ et-al #60: I am not paid nor am I expected to solve all of the world’s problems but I expect those who are paid and responsible to do their jobs instead of repeating the same mistakes over and over again. We invaded Vietnam and failed, so instead of learning a lesson from that fiasco we invade Iraq and fail at yet another fiasco. The result: 50,000 dead in Vietnam and 5,000 dead in Iraq and that is counting Americans killed. Many, many more civilians were killed in both useless wars but we don’t hear about that.

68 et-al August 23, 2014 at 7:32 PM

Soooooooo, not only is Aspirin a sniveling whiner with nothing to add, she also posts as “Just Sayin”.
Split personality – both heads empty.

69 shadowblade August 23, 2014 at 8:01 PM

Let’s take a look at those Presidential vacation days again…–165241111.html

Looks like Republican Presidents spend more time on vacation than Democratic Presidents.

70 shadowblade August 23, 2014 at 8:03 PM


“Follow current events much?”

Yes. Bush signed the Status of Forces Agreement, stating ALL US troops were to be out of Iraq by the end of 2011. By the end of 2011, ALL US troops were out of Iraq.

So again…how did Obama **** up Iraq? Has it ever occurred to you that perhaps invading Iraq wasn’t such a good idea in the first place?

71 shadowblade August 23, 2014 at 9:00 PM

“Soooooooo, not only is Aspirin a sniveling whiner with nothing to add, she also posts as “Just Sayin”.
Split personality – both heads empty.”

Oh, the irony.

72 jayvee August 23, 2014 at 9:09 PM
73 ... August 23, 2014 at 9:13 PM

“It’s his wife turn.”
Now there’s, a true Mensa moment.

74 Wait for IT August 23, 2014 at 9:45 PM

President Reagan did on more than a few occasions bloody Iran’s nose when they attempted to affect free passage of shipping thru the Strait of Hormuz.

” “Tehran is quietly fielding” increasing numbers of anti-ship ballistic missiles, “small but capable submarines,” coastal missile batteries and attack craft.

Iranian officials periodically have threatened to disrupt the Strait of Hormuz in response to U.S.-led economic sanctions on its nuclear program and Israel’s threat to launch a strike against it.

About 20 percent of the world’s traded oil is shipped daily through the Strait, which is 21 miles wide at its narrowest point.

Separately, Iran possesses “a substantial inventory of missiles capable of reaching targets throughout the region, including Israel.” ”

Seriously doubt the golf wonder has any grasp of the significance of the Strait of Hormuz or knowledge of article 51 of the UN charter.

75 Elwood August 23, 2014 at 9:53 PM

@ chowderbrain #70

Math never was my long suit, but by my calculations the Arab has been President for more than 5 1/2 years. That would seem to be more than enough time for a normal human being to pull his head out of his *** and take some sort of constructive action on the problems facing us. Of course we all know that the Arab is much smarter than a normal human being so the usual rules don’t apply.

And oh, by the way. At the pace things move today 2011 is ancient history. And what’s negotiated can be un-negotiated or re-negotiated.

76 shadowblade August 23, 2014 at 10:06 PM


“Math never was my long suit, but by my calculations the Arab has been President for more than 5 1/2 years. That would seem to be more than enough time for a normal human being to pull his head out of his *** and take some sort of constructive action on the problems facing us. Of course we all know that the Arab is much smarter than a normal human being so the usual rules don’t apply.

And oh, by the way. At the pace things move today 2011 is ancient history. And what’s negotiated can be un-negotiated or re-negotiated.”

Yep. And Obama negotiated. And the Iraqi government wanted us out. So we had no choice. What should Obama have done? Re-invaded Iraq to overthrow the government we helped install? Let’s hear your solution.

77 OBAMA LIES August 23, 2014 at 10:11 PM

#1 “If you like your doctor, you will be able to keep your doctor. PERIOD. If you like your health care plan, you will be able to keep your health care plan. PERIOD. No one will take it away. NO MATTER WHAT.”

#2 “My administration is committed to creating an unprecedented level of openness in government.”

#3 “We agree on reforms that will finally reduce the costs of health care. Families will save on their premiums…”

#4 “I don’t want to pit Red America against Blue America. I want to be the president of the United States of America.”

#5 “We’ve got shovel-ready projects all across the country that governors and mayors are pleading to fund. And the minute we can get those investments to the state level, jobs are going to be created.”

#6 “And we will pursue the housing plan I’m outlining today. And through this plan, we will help between 7 and 9 million families restructure or refinance their mortgages so they can afford—avoid foreclosure.”

#7 “I will sign a universal health-care bill into law by the end of my first term as president that will cover every American and cut the cost of a typical family’s premium by up to $2,500 a year.”

#8 “We reject the use of national security letters to spy on citizens who are not suspected of a crime.”

#9 “For people with insurance, the only impact of the health-care law is that their insurance is stronger, better, and more secure than it was before. Full stop. That’s it. They don’t have to worry about anything else.”

#10 “We will close the detention camp in Guantanamo Bay, the location of so many of the worst constitutional abuses in recent years.”

#11 “Allow Americans to buy their medicines from other developed countries if the drugs are safe and prices are lower outside the U.S.”

#12 “We will revisit the Patriot Act and overturn unconstitutional executive decisions issued during the past eight years.”

#13 “Will ensure that federal contracts over $25,000 are competitively bid.”

#14 “We reject sweeping claims of ‘inherent’ presidential power.”

#15 “Will eliminate all income taxation of seniors making less than $50,000 per year. This will eliminate taxes for 7 million seniors — saving them an average of $1,400 a year– and will also mean that 27 million seniors will not need to file an income tax return at all.”

#16 “We support constitutional protections and judicial oversight on any surveillance program involving Americans.”

#17 “If we have not gotten our troops out by the time I am president, it is the first thing I will do. I will get our troops home, we will end this war. You can take that to the bank.”

#18 “Will not sign any non-emergency bill without giving the American public an opportunity to review and comment on the White House website for five days.”

#19 “The President does not have power under the Constitution to unilaterally authorize a military attack in a situation that does not involve stopping an actual or imminent threat to the nation.”

#20 “We have a choice in this country. We can accept a politics that breeds division and conflict and cynicism…. That is one option. Or, at this moment, in this election, we can come together and say, ‘Not this time….’”

#21 “We’ve got to spend some money now to pull us out of this recession. But as soon as we’re out of this recession, we’ve got to get serious about starting to live within our means, instead of leaving debt for our children and our grandchildren and our great-grandchildren.”

#22 “[T]oday I’m pledging to cut the deficit we inherited in half by the end of my first term in office. This will not be easy. It will require us to make difficult decisions and face challenges we’ve long neglected. But I refuse to leave our children with a debt that they cannot repay – and that means taking responsibility right now, in this administration, for getting our spending under control.”

#23 “I, Barack Hussein Obama, do solemnly swear that I will execute the office of president of the United States faithfully, and will to the best of my ability, preserve, protect, and defend the constitution of the United States.

78 Elwood August 23, 2014 at 11:03 PM

@ chowderbrain #76

The Arab couldn’t negotiate the purchase of sausage for a meat market.

In 5 1/2 years he has negotiated exactly nothing.

Even Jimmy Carter (whom the Arab makes look quite presidential) negotiated a peace deal between Israel and Egypt. The Arab doesn’t even try because he knows he’s the smartest man in the room and everyone should just do what he says.

79 shadowblade August 23, 2014 at 11:21 PM


Reagan was quietly negotiating with the terrorists.

80 shadowblade August 23, 2014 at 11:59 PM


“The Arab couldn’t negotiate the purchase of sausage for a meat market.”

Bush wasn’t able to negotiate either…hence the withdrawal of ALL US troops. The fact is the Iraqi people didn’t want us there.

I guess Bush didn’t do a very good job winning the hearts and minds of the Iraqi people.

81 Anon August 24, 2014 at 2:11 AM

So now Obummer Husein’s answer to Missouri is to ask why do cops have military style weapons. Leave it to that pothead to say, let’s take away the police’s ability to defend themselves from more well armed criminals because of the violence brought on by one group in one small town. He is a danger to public safety, the sooner 2016 comes the better!

82 Phantom's Phather August 24, 2014 at 6:12 AM

Hello everyone,
We’re the parents of the person calling himself Yhe Phantom and we couldn’t be more disappointed and ashamed by what he’s become. He was such a nice little boy. Sadly he didn’t fit in well with others and from an early age displayed mannerisms less than masculine. That probably led him to being the misfit you see here. Being called sissy created a lifelong anger and perverse thinking in our little boy. We know his rationale for many of his beliefs actually stem from the rage he carries from childhood and the deep need to get even with the world. He doesn’t seem to understand that he creates all the reasons for people disliking and even hating him.
Are hearts are broken.

83 A Day of Celebration August 24, 2014 at 7:48 AM

1 / 20 / 2017 Obama’s last day in office.

I going to throw a big block party.

84 I don't hate Phantom August 24, 2014 at 8:47 AM

What do you think this thread would be like without him?

The back and forth arguing is what makes this place fun. It would not be as interesting if it were all one sided.

85 ‘A dozen witnesses’ say Ferguson teen attacked cop before shooting August 24, 2014 at 8:56 AM

Multiple witnesses in riot-torn Ferguson, Mo., said that the unarmed black teen killed by a white cop attacked the officer in his patrol car before the teen was shot, according to a new report.

“Police sources tell me more than a dozen witnesses have corroborated cop’s version of events in shooting,” St. Louis Post-Dispatch crime reporter Christine Byers tweeted, without elaborating.

Officer Darren Wilson has not spoken publicly about the Aug. 9 shooting of 18-year-old Michael Brown shortly after Brown and a pal allegedly stole a $50 box of cigars in a strong-arm robbery at a convenience store.

But two friends have come forward to defend him — with one describing his version of events leading up to the killing.

A man who said he played hockey with the 28-year cop said on “Good Morning America” Tuesday that Wilson was a “really quiet, well-mannered, respectful guy” who showed no signs of violence.

“‘I can tell that this is really hard on him,” said the man, who said he had exchanged texts with Wilson since the shooting, which sparked nights of violence on the streets of Ferguson, prompting the governor to call in the National Guard.

Earlier, another friend who identified herself only as Josie called “The Dana Show” on radio station KFTK to say that Wilson told her the tall, burly Brown, 18, had “bum-rushed“ him before the shooting.

Josie — who said she heard the version from Wilson’s girlfriend — said the cop encountered Brown and his pal Dorian Johnson walking down the middle of a street, pulled up and ordered them onto the sidewalk.

Wilson then noticed the pair were carrying cigars, and had heard the report of the robbery and recognized the pair as possible suspects.

“And he’s looking at them and they got something in their hands and it looks like it could be what, you know, those cigars or whatever. So he goes in reverse back to them,” Josie said.

Wilson, she said, “tries to get out of his car. They slam his door shut violently. I think he said Michael did. And then he opened the car again. He tried to get out. He stands up.

“And then Michael just bum-rushes him and shoves him back into his car. Punches him in the face and then Darren grabs for his gun. Michael grabbed for the gun. At one point he got the gun entirely turned against his hip. And he shoves it away. And the gun goes off,” Josie said.

“Well, then Michael takes off and gets to be about 35 feet away. And Darren’s first protocol is to pursue. So he stands up and yells, ‘Freeze!’ Michael and his friend turn around. And Michael taunts him … And then all the sudden he just started bum-rushing him. He just started coming at him full speed,” she told the station.

“So [Wilson] really thinks [Brown] was on something, because he just kept coming. It was unbelievable. And so he finally ended up, the final shot was in the forehead, and then he fell about two to three feet in front of the officer,” she said.

86 Rick August 24, 2014 at 9:31 AM

“…….we must stop the terror. I call upon all nations to do everything they can to stop these terrorist killers. Thank you. Now watch this drive……”.

George W. Bush, rebooblican on vacation

87 ExDem August 24, 2014 at 9:58 AM

Barack Obama has shown me a side of the Democratic Party I can no longer support, because of him I will never vote for a Democrat again.

You can put Nancy Pelosi in there with him too.

88 Obama Jokes August 24, 2014 at 10:09 AM

The liberals are asking us to give Obama time. We agree and think 25 to life would be appropriate.

America needs Obama-care like Nancy Pelosi needs a Halloween mask.
— Jay Leno

Q: Have you heard about McDonald’s’ new Obama Value Meal?
A: Order anything you like and the guy behind you has to pay for it.
— Conan O’Brien

Q: What does Barack Obama call lunch with a convicted felon?
A: A fund raiser.
— Jay Leno

Q: What’s the difference between Obama’s cabinet and a penitentiary?
A: One is filled with tax evaders, blackmailers and threats to society.

The other is for housing prisoners.
— David Letterman

Q: If Nancy Pelosi and Obama were on a boat in the middle of the ocean and it started to sink, who would be saved?
A: America !
— Jimmy Fallon

Q: What’s the difference between Obama and his dog, Bo?
A: Bo has papers.
— Jimmy Kimmel

Q: What was the most positive result of the “Cash for clunkers” program?
A: It took 95% of the Obama bumper stickers off the road.
— David Letterman

89 Thank You Barack Obama August 24, 2014 at 10:37 AM

He destroyed the Clinton Political Machine Driving a stake thru the heart of Hillarys Presidential aspirations something no Republican was ever able to do. Remember when a Hillary Presidency scared the daylights out of you!

He killed off the Kennedy Dynasty No more Kennedys trolling Washington looking for booze and women wanting rides home. American women and Freedom are safer tonight!

He is destroying the Democratic Party before our eyes!

* Dennis Moore had never lost a race

* Evan Bayh had never lost a race

* Byron Dorgan had never lost a race

* Patrick Kennedy. Decided not to run

* Harry Reid bid for re-election doesn’t look good

* Nancy is History

These are just a handful of the Democrats that whose political careers Obama has destroyed! By the end of 2014 dozens more will be!

In December of 2008 the Democrats were on the rise. In the last two election cycles they had picked up 14 senate seats and 52 house seats. The press was touting the death of the Conservative Movement and the Republican Party. In one year Obama put a stop to all of this and will probably give the house, and the senate back to the Republicans.

He has completely exposed liberals and progressives for what they are. Every Generation seems to need to relearn the lesson on why they should never actually put liberals in charge. He is bringing home the lesson very well!

* Liberals tax, borrow and spend

* Liberals won’t bring themselves to protect America

* Liberals want to take over the economy

* Liberals think they know what is best for everyone

* Liberals aren’t happy till they are running YOUR life

He has brought more Americans back to conservatism than anyone since Reagan.

In his first year he rejuvenated the Conservative movement and brought out to the streets millions of Freedom Loving Americans.

Name me one other time in your life that you saw your friends and neighbors this interested in taking back America!

After Barack Obama was elected, I was more afraid than I had ever been in my life. Not of the economy, but of the direction our country was going. I thought Americans had forgotten what this country was all about. My neighbors, friends, strangers proved to me that my lack of confidence of the Greatness and Wisdom of the American people was flat out wrong.

When the American People wake up, no smooth talking teleprompter reader can fool them!

Barack Obama woke up these Great Americans.

Again I want say Thank you Barack Obama!

90 Phantom's Phather August 24, 2014 at 12:14 PM

Phantom #84 –
It’s tacky to praise your self, son. Didn’t we raise you better than that?

91 Vote Out All Democrats August 24, 2014 at 12:41 PM

All across America a quiet rage is building against the assault upon American values. More so than ever in the history of America, the concerns and patience of it’s people are being tested, tried, and attacked by a group of elitist that are hell bent on the destruction of this country.

Refuse to remain silent and prepare to take our country back.

Vote Out All Democrats!

92 Yhe Phantom August 24, 2014 at 1:09 PM

Funny day today,

The usual Reactionary rants against the very highly educated, wealthy, and caring President of the United States.

A Pretend poster, and trolls using old dry kibble for trout bait. Take our country back from the majority? That’s not how it works…there is no rage…there is just envy.


How do you know you are Posting Great Political content?

You will attract Task Trolls, (Website vandals).

They may not be opponents and merely want to bask in the reflected light of your scholarship. Others hope to be seen as your intellectual antagonist by entering small remarks as replies to your deep authoritative analysis and summation. It is kind of a self-flattering, self-deception that ignores their ignorance and incompetence.

They do not post content, only insults and false repudiation.

We only want to seek, learn, and reveal the truth, better to inform, educate, and convince intelligent people to vote for the Good Solution.

93 Yhe Phantom August 24, 2014 at 1:20 PM

“All across America a quiet rage is building against the assault upon American values”

The “quiet” rage has been a blow torch of criticism, accusations, false scandals, racist attacks, with stupid and useless economic warnings.

Since all this nonsense has been proven to be hyperbole and simply insane remarks, the hysterics have been reduced to a din of grumbling and whining. It’s quieter and getting even quieter.

Too many guys is nuts…they don’t even believe the story.

94 Yhe Phantom August 24, 2014 at 1:40 PM

“Name me one other time in your life that you saw your friends and neighbors this interested in taking back America!”

Name me better comedy gold.

-Note that any new discussion subjects are dismissed by conservatives with personal attacks on the presenter or yards of exaggerated alarmism about some imaginary national crises…funny huh?

95 United We Stand, Divided We Fall August 24, 2014 at 2:20 PM

Never in history has this country been so divided. I think Obama gets a kick out of pitting one against the other.

96 Remember in November August 24, 2014 at 2:28 PM


Every Democrat voted for it.

Not 1 Republican did.

97 Remember in November August 24, 2014 at 2:30 PM

Round 2 – 2014 Shellacking in 72 Days

Thanks Obama

98 ... August 24, 2014 at 3:02 PM

” What do you think this thread would be like without him? ”

Lets try a month without it and see.

99 shadowblade August 24, 2014 at 3:09 PM

“The Affordable Care Act has been successful at achieving some major goals in the first year of its full implementation, according to a new study from The Commonwealth Fund.
There are three important findings from the study: The uninsured rate is dropping, most people like their new insurance plans (even Republicans!), and most people are finding it easy to visit a doctor.

The study found the uninsured rate in the U.S. declined by one-quarter over the last nine months, which included the law’s first, six-month open-enrollment period in which individuals could sign up for private insurance plans through exchanges established by the law.”

Good job, Obama! Keep up the great work.

100 Yhe Phantom August 24, 2014 at 5:33 PM

… August 24, 2014 at 3:02 PM
” What do you think this thread would be like without him? ”
Lets try a month without it and see”

Second Amendment? Hooray
First Amendment? Not so much!

Planning the ninth boycott? Or sanctions by the Mayor?

They worry so much about an opposing opinion, even if it only represents a SMALL percentage of the comments…

Too bad Yhe Phantom presents 80% of the original thought.

101 @99 August 24, 2014 at 5:41 PM

Do us a favor and actually read the article, attempt to comprehend the biased skew used and cherry picking of stats. Perhaps do some research on the author as well.

102 Yhe Phantom August 24, 2014 at 5:50 PM

Many Real Estate units in COCO County have recovered 94% of their 2007 pre-recession values.

The slowest recovery is in areas that were being specifically developed to take advantage of the mortgage bubble. These were most likely to be sold to NINJA loan buyers.

This also means hard re-fi loans may have been neutralized by values turning right side up!

It’s all gotten better and will continue to improve to remarkable levels in the next 10 1/2 years.

Even if we have a good war.

103 Yhe Phantom August 24, 2014 at 6:04 PM

They have the same credentials Thomas Jefferson had in 1788.

104 Yhe Phantom August 24, 2014 at 6:05 PM

To #101

so lame

105 Part Time president August 24, 2014 at 6:10 PM

‘More Than A Thousand Stood Under Heat & Sun For Free Food In Miami’

Where are the living wage factory jobs promised?

“In June (2014) the BLS reports that the number of full-time jobs tumbled by 523K to 118.2 million while part-time jobs soared by 799K to over 28 million!”

Unaffordable Care Act
“One possible reason for the recent trend is the new health care law. It requires businesses with at least 50 employees to provide health insurance to staffers who work at least 30 hours, prompting some employers to cut employees’ hours or hire more part-timers instead of adding full-time positions.
Recently, however, the Obama administration delayed the effective date of the mandate by a year to January 2015.”

Was the move delaying to January of 2015 done solely to benefit Democrats running for re-election in congress?
Would this president use his control solely to benefit his political party?
This president?
In a fricking heartbeat.

‘ More Jobs Went To Immigrants Than Native-Born Americans Over Past 14 Years ‘

He’s only got a little over two years left, what else could possibly go wrong?

106 @97 August 24, 2014 at 7:02 PM

You tried that last time and ate leather. Going for the other shoe?

107 Do you realize August 24, 2014 at 7:11 PM

Not all Christians are right wing nut jobs?

108 GOP Surrenders August 24, 2014 at 7:17 PM

….And Obamacare, contrary to Republican expectations, started working. Enrollees started receiving benefits and benefiting from subsidized coverage. And now, according to Bloomberg, spending on anti-ACA advertisements has plummeted:

Republicans seeking to unseat the U.S. Senate incumbent in North Carolina have cut in half the portion of their top issue ads citing Obamacare, a sign that the party’s favorite attack against Democrats is losing its punch.

The shift — also taking place in competitive states such as Arkansas and Louisiana — shows Republicans are easing off their strategy of criticizing Democrats over the Affordable Care Act now that many Americans are benefiting from the law and the measure is unlikely to be repealed.

Thus died the Republican dream of riding Obamacare to a crushing midterm victory. As Bloomberg put it, the focus is shifting from simply attacking the ACA to linking it to economic ills, like the slow recovery and the weak job market. “The party’s experience across the country shows that Republicans can’t count on the issue to motivate independent voters they need to oust Democrats in Arkansas, Louisiana and Alaska,”

109 Construction Worker August 24, 2014 at 7:20 PM

Under Clinton and Bush I was working so much I was getting tons of overtime working back to back jobs earning two pension credit per year.

When Obama became president everything came to a screeching halt, working only four months a year, if I’m lucky.

I went to a family reunion on fathers day and found out that 8 out of 10 men in my family were also out of work. The women are trying to find work to help so our houses don’t get foreclosed on, but can’t find any full time work because of obamacare, only part time jobs are available.

Thanks Obama you POS.

110 Elwood August 24, 2014 at 7:22 PM

What’s really pathetic is when he begs for someone to engage with him.

111 OHMy August 24, 2014 at 7:26 PM

WASHINGTON — Republicans have a wealth of political issues that will dominate the 2014 midterm election races and determine their outcome.

The national news media have done their best to try to bury these issues, play them down or sugarcoat them, but the American people know better. They have persistently put these issues at or near the top of every voter poll in the last six years of Barack Obama’s scandal-ridden, trouble-plagued administration.

It’s hard to break through the power of the Washington news media that have worked hard to cover up the Obama White House’s blunders. But this will be the GOP’s chief challenge in the next few months as we race toward the fall elections.

Here are the issues Republicans must pound between now and then, and where they stand today:

(1) The Obama economy: No other issue is more critical in the minds of the voters as they have watched the once-mighty U.S. economy grow weaker, repeatedly turning in one mediocre, lackluster performance after another.

Six years into the so-called recovery, economic growth isn’t just weak; it was actually shrinking in the first three months of this year by a shocking 2.9 percent. Our exports were anemic, and business inventories were down. It was the worst quarter for economic growth since the middle of 2009.

Obama’s been running around the country telling us that manufacturing is exploding. In fact, orders to U.S. factories fell in May by 0.5 percent.

It’s not going to get much better. The Federal Reserve forecasts that growth will stumble along at little more than 2 percent this year, held back by Obama’s anti-business, anti-growth policies.

(2) That leads to the second most important issue: jobs. The average unemployment rate has fallen to 6.1 percent. But that’s largely due to millions of discouraged, long-term jobless workers who have stopped looking for work and thus are no longer counted among the unemployed.

If the same percentage of these adult workers who’ve dropped out of the labor force were looking for work again, as when President Obama took office, the real jobless rate would be 10.2 percent, says economist Peter Morici at the University of Maryland’s Smith School of Business.

Fed Chair Janet Yellen says this is one of the most serious problems confronting the economy, and the labor force participation rate is not going away soon. Our once-muscular workforce is shrinking, a disturbing sign of an economy and a nation in decline.

Hidden or downplayed in the June jobs numbers is the harsh reality that many of them are low-paying temp jobs. Nearly 80,000 of them were added to the labor force last month, according to the ADP payroll processor’s latest survey.

(3) Persistently sky-high, $600 billion budget deficits and a growing $17 trillion debt threaten our economic security as never before.

Americans are justifiably worried about our debts and want the government to abandon its spendthrift ways. The GOP House has passed one budget after another to do that, only to see the Senate refuse to negotiate commonsense ideas to slow down the rate of spending.

(4) Obamacare: There’s a huge scandal brewing in the president’s 2010 Affordable Care Act that was revealed in two reports this week by the Inspector General’s Office in the Department of Health and Human Services.

They reported serious inadequacies and shortcomings in the system’s “internal controls” that may have allowed millions of people to sign up for cut-rate health insurance benefits who were ineligible for the subsidies, tax credits and other financial help under the law.

Of the 2.9 million “inconsistencies” found in the records of the new state-run health insurance marketplaces, two of the most common dealt with the applicants’ income and their citizenship, which were not verified.

“This report tells us that the administration was more concerned with appearances than getting anything in Obamacare done right,” said Sen. Lamar Alexander of Tennessee, the ranking Republican on the Health, Education, Labor and Pensions Committee.

Obamacare and its impact on small businesses, the economy and ordinary working Americans, who are finding it harder to afford steadily rising premiums, will be a big issue this year. And this week’s investigative reports will only add more political fuel to the fire.

(5) Incomes and rising poverty: Obama and his party consider themselves the champions of the poor and the middle class. But the harsh and painful reality of their anti-wealth creation, anti-business policies is growing poverty and, for many Americans, a struggling middle class.

According to a recent U.S. Census Bureau report, one in five neighborhoods have incomes that are below the poverty income level. But the report’s most explosive finding is that poverty has worsened under the Obama administration.

By 2010, the share of people living in these rapidly expanding poverty areas had grown to 25.7 percent, up from 18.1 percent in 2000.

No doubt Republicans will be pounding other issues — including inflation, higher taxes, rising gas prices, and the veterans scandal that has turned many independents and some Democrats against Obama and his party.

But the five issues listed above are the major ones that will drive the GOP’s political offensive to win back the Senate in the next few months.

Obama and his party will fight back with the usual class warfare tactics. They will try to frighten voters into believing the GOP will take away their Social Security. It will be the same old demagoguery that worked for the president in 2012.

It’s not going to work this time. Voters across the board have lost confidence in his promises, his presidency and his party. On Nov. 4, it’s going to be a bloodbath.

113 Raising The Flag August 24, 2014 at 7:41 PM
114 furian August 24, 2014 at 7:43 PM


You mad?


115 @108 August 24, 2014 at 8:31 PM

Are you incapable of independent thought?
Cut-n-paste without giving credit to author or website.

For those who would like to read the full, leftist article.

116 Yhe Phantom August 24, 2014 at 8:38 PM

In a recent, 10-stop tour through Iowa, site of the country’s first presidential caucuses, he called the conflict in Libya “Hillary’s war.” And he said Clinton’s handling of the 2012 terror attacks on the U.S. consulate in Benghazi, Libya, in which four Americas were killed, should disqualify her from becoming president.

Paul already has a solid grassroots outreach efforts in early-voting states. And he is in third place behind New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie and former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush, according to an averaging of polls for potential 2016 GOP presidential candidates by the non-partisan website

Michael Czin, spokesman for the Democratic National Committee, said Sunday that Democrats are eager to debate Paul about “his fringe, isolationist vision,” which Czin says includes plans to end all aid to foreign allies, including Israel.

“That’s the vision he’s laid out and defended time and time again and that even conservatives have said would bring ‘terrible misery’ to millions of people across the globe,” he said in a statement.

– Likes to yell at a woman in Senate hearings where she can’t reach him.

Not the kind of man I would have a beer with…and I don’t do meth, so that finishes it.

117 shadowblade August 24, 2014 at 8:42 PM


Do us a favor and actually construct a counter-argument. Thanks.

118 ... August 24, 2014 at 8:47 PM

‘ Chicago crime rate drops as concealed carry applications surge
City sees fewer homicides, robberies, burglaries, car thefts as Illinois residents take arms ‘

A foundation stone of the democrat, utopian society fantasy, is falling apart in of all places a solidly democrat controlled city.

HINT to democrats,

119 @109 August 24, 2014 at 8:50 PM

That’s obscene.

120 Republican Climate Deniers August 24, 2014 at 9:08 PM

The Republicans basically fall into four categories: (1) Flat-Earthers, who deny the existence of manmade climate change; (2) Born-Again Flat-Earthers, who do the same, but who had admitted climate change exists back before President Obama took office; (3) Do-Nothings, who sort of admit the reality of climate change but oppose actually taking any steps to prevent it; and (4) Dodgers, who have avoided saying whether they believe climate change is happening, and who also don’t want to take any steps to alleviate it. Louisiana Gov. Bobby Jindal and Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker fall into the latter category. The Do-Nothings are blue and purple state governors, Chris Christie of New Jersey and John Kasich of Ohio. In a sign of how far rightward Republicans have moved since 2008, these are actually the guys who are trying to position themselves as relatively moderate and pragmatic. The Born-Agains are Florida Sen. Marco Rubio and former Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee. Both are staunch conservatives but only partial wingnuts. Back when that meant believing in climate change, they did, but they have since followed their base into fantasyland. Everyone else is an outright denier and always has been.

121 Elwood August 24, 2014 at 9:24 PM

Post #114 is one of the finest examples of the intellectual level of this poster.

122 furian August 24, 2014 at 9:54 PM

Doesn’t take much to get in Elmwood’s head!


All too easy.

123 ..... August 24, 2014 at 10:00 PM

@Phantom’s Phather…..

You do what you can to raise your kids. Some just have to learn it the hard way……

124 ... August 24, 2014 at 10:07 PM

Gold has dropped 4.9 percent since mid-July 2014
January 2013 price was above 1680
August 2014 price is about 1280

Value of a dollar?
A product costing $100.00 purchased in 2009, would cost today $111.05

Does your paycheck go as far as it used to?

125 @120 August 24, 2014 at 10:15 PM

Cut-n-paste without giving credit to author or website.

126 Really ? August 24, 2014 at 11:01 PM

” According to a new Sunday Times report by Toby Harden, “Pentagon sources said Foley and the others might well have been rescued but Obama, concerned about the ramifications of US troops being killed or captured in Syria, took too long to authorise the mission.” ”

127 Dennis August 25, 2014 at 12:14 AM

@#120 your problem building your straw man is that the straw you are trying to use is clogged with Donkey manure.

Those Deniers you speak of aren’t just Republicans, and they are not just Americans, either.

Who are they? They are those who

– agree that the earth gets warmer … and cooler … in about a 30 year cycle. Because we are coming out of the little ice age, ech century is a tad warmer than previous ones.

– disagree that capitalism, ie. privately owned industry and property, is the primary cause of warming,

– disagree that the temperature will never again cycle, getting only warmer, forever,

– disagree that the only way to reverse the trend is to eliminate capitalism, making all industry owned and/or controlled by government,

-agree that the 30 year warming phase cycled about year 2000, and is in the midst of a 30 year cooling phase.

– note that the urgency and crisis-level fearmongering, predicting searing global temperatures by 2015, have failed to happen, and the predictions have been consistently erroneous.

That’s just about everybody except a few who hope to profit from global warming fearmongering.

128 Hubris Party August 25, 2014 at 8:14 AM

You might expect common sense from them but you’d be wrong.
Economic stupidity of politicians is nothing short of amazing.
The high tax utopian socialist nanny state government of France just imploded.
New Jersey saw $90 Billion in wealth flee the state due to high taxes imposed by democrats. CA democrats are repeating that same stupidity and did it one better adding burdensome regulations and red tape.

Where is the percentage in screwing over those who have the unique ability to move both their residences and businesses to states or countries where taxes are lower?

Democrats arrogantly believe they have some special ability to raise taxes with no ill effect, WRONG.
Remains to be seen how arrogantly Stupid democrats really are.

129 ? August 25, 2014 at 8:44 AM

Is Obama getting even for Evie?
“Transgender Americans seeking gender reassignment surgeries are finding relief through Obamacare, The Daily Beast reported on Monday.

Federal laws banning health insurance discrimination against transgender people, combined with Obamacare’s ban on denying coverage for those with pre-existing conditions, have paved a path for transgender patients who wish to make the transition from one gender to another.

“The federal anti-discrimination regulations have yet to be written, but California insurance regulators have said that companies must treat transgender patients the same as other patients,” reports The Daily Beast. “For example, if plans cover hormones for post-menopausal women, they must also cover them for transgender women. Medicare, the program for the elderly and disabled, lifted its ban on covering sex reassignment surgery earlier this year.”

What gets covered varies from Obamacare policy to policy. But Transgender Law Center program administrator Anand Kalra says, “The law and policy are on a transgender person’s side for the first time.”

Nationally, Obamacare is more unpopular than ever. The latest Kaiser Health poll finds that an all-time low of just 37% of Americans now support President Barack Obama’s signature legislative achievement.

Over the next ten years, Obamacare will cost U.S. taxpayers $2.6 trillion.”

130 ... August 25, 2014 at 8:53 AM

‘WH Snubbed US General and Margaret Thatcher’s Funerals, Sending 3 Officials to Michael Brown’s’

131 Nancy PelOOsi August 25, 2014 at 8:57 AM

I’m introducing legislation to re name the West Napa Fault after George W. Bush. In fact, I might just propose that EVERY fault line in the country be named after him…. we can number them for clarity. This may be the most important thing I’ve ever done!

132 ... August 25, 2014 at 9:01 AM

“The flood of illegal immigrants coming across the border has the fingerprints of a community organizer all over it.”

133 @Dennis August 25, 2014 at 9:07 AM

Global warming – cooling or whatever they want to call it is nothing more than largest con game ever attempted. If large multinational corporations could not make money it would not even be mentioned.

134 @ ... Phather August 25, 2014 at 9:29 AM

I accept your apology . We have one of these in our family. Ours didn’t assume two names but was as boring. Never shut up and not too smart either, same old same old.

I guess this is a good outlet for your boy.

135 Bad News for Republicans August 25, 2014 at 9:43 AM

Job market continues to grow

Long term unemployment decreasing

Consumers are back

Strong business spending

Housing market is robust

S & P 500 companines report earnings up 11%

136 @135 August 25, 2014 at 11:13 AM

Miss this ?
“In June (2014) the BLS reports that the number of full-time jobs tumbled by 523K to 118.2 million while part-time jobs soared by 799K to over 28 million!”

137 Hmmm August 25, 2014 at 11:21 AM

Will Obama be on another vacation on 11 September 2014 ?

138 Laura Zah August 25, 2014 at 11:21 AM

Elwood, I’m sure by your comment that I know which giggling idiot you are referring to. I just pass over those (and those of the other usual suspects). It isn’t worth the time it takes to read them, much less respond to them.

Reading through Claycord Politics is like walking through an insane asylum. You can converse intelligently with the doctors & staff, but you shouldn’t waste your time trying to convince the hopeless psychotics that they are crazy.

139 RunDogRun August 25, 2014 at 11:39 AM

@114 furian

Dingies are winding down now, aren’t
they? Guess the reality of our Presidential
dud is finally starting to sink in.

140 Undocumented democrats August 25, 2014 at 11:42 AM
“Mexican officials have deported more than 13,000 of the 14,000 undocumented, unaccompanied minors who have been caught at Mexico’s southern border, a rate significantly higher than in the United States, according to government sources familiar with the situation.

Additionally, Mexican authorities have deported more than 64,000 of the estimated 69,000 adults that have been detained along their southern border this year.

Those numbers stand in stark contrast to the deportation of minor immigrants from the United States: None of the more than 60,000 Central American minors detained this year have been deported.”

Illegals are being purposely enticed to come here so democrats can build a larger base of voters for future elections, a calculated long term plan.

141 @135 August 25, 2014 at 11:58 AM

How convenient for obama the U-3 measure of unemployment lumps part time and full time jobs together.

This administration says anyone working 35 hours is fully employed?
Part time is considered working 34 hours or less.

Even with that level of statistical desperation, majority of jobs created during obama’s term in office are part time jobs.

But that’s OK as has been proven twice, ignorance of facts is a prerequisite to be a low information voter.

142 The Price August 25, 2014 at 12:03 PM

For being part of the obama rodeo clown media. (550 Jobs)

“Today’s news of a coming bloodbath at CNN and HLN is a reminder that while CNN has been able to use the unrest in Ferguson to race-bait its way to better ratings, everyone knows that’s temporary. Without something that allows the left-wing network to appeal to the lowest common denominator, CNN is almost certain to fall back into the ratings basement until something else comes along for the network to cynically exploit.”

143 Sleep tight August 25, 2014 at 12:08 PM

Quote from Bret Stephens (8/25/14) (his author ID following):

” By 2017, the U.S. military will be an increasingly hollow force, with the Army as small as it was in 1940, before conscription; a Navy the size it was in 1917, before our entry into World War I; an Air Force flying the oldest—and smallest—fleet of planes in its history; and a nuclear arsenal no larger than it was during the Truman administration.”

Bret Stephens is the foreign-affairs columnist and deputy editorial-page editor of the Wall Street Journal. In 2013 he was awarded a Pulitzer Prize. His first book, America in Retreat: The New Isolationism and the Coming Global Disorder will be published by Sentinel in November.

144 Anonymous August 25, 2014 at 12:09 PM

London has Hyde Park
We have MSNBC
It’s all good.

145 Internet Inventor August 25, 2014 at 12:16 PM

‘Australian Bureau of Meteorology accused of Criminally Adjusted Global Warming’

“The Australian Bureau of Meteorology has been caught red-handed manipulating temperature data to show “global warming” where none actually exists.

At Amberley, Queensland, for example, the data at a weather station showing 1 degree Celsius cooling per century was “homogenized” (adjusted) by the Bureau so that it instead showed a 2.5 degrees warming per century.

At Rutherglen, Victoria, a cooling trend of -0.35 degrees C per century was magically transformed at the stroke of an Australian meteorologist’s pen into a warming trend of 1.73 degrees C per century.”

146 @Anonymous 144 August 25, 2014 at 3:49 PM

Thank You for that one.
Completely Agree.

147 Hmmmm? August 25, 2014 at 3:58 PM

‘White House says Obama could attack ISIS in Syria ‘regardless of borders’ and WITHOUT approval from Congress’

After Benghazi State Dept. raised problem of sending war planes into Libyan airspace. Of course they were desperate and feebly grasping at straws for any day-glow excuse.

Is amazing how often this administration just wings it,
is unfortunate they’re so bad at it.

148 Typical Knee Jerk August 25, 2014 at 4:10 PM

“As Burger King eyes moving its headquarters to Canada to lower its tax bill, a Democratic senator is recommending a boycott of the burger joint.”

How strange that a member of congress would come up with the boycott idea, after all congress is responsible for making laws regarding taxation.

Perhaps they should have read the bill, that had the loop hole that allows companies to avoid high taxes in the US, before they passed it.

But he accomplished what he wanted got his name in the press. Another democrat out there against the evil corporations.

149 Beheading LIES August 25, 2014 at 4:14 PM

LIES. And You ALL fell for it. WAKE UP ~ Before you clowns permit WWIII

150 Typical Knee Jerk August 25, 2014 at 4:22 PM

‘A Disturbing Pattern: Eight Times that Democrats Used Court Shenanigans Against Republicans They Couldn’t Beat at the Ballot Box’

Why not they used IRS to target “enemies”

Then there’s that famous quote attributed to an obama adviser.

“After we win this election, it’s our turn. Payback time. Everyone not with us is against us and they better be ready because we don’t forget. The ones who helped us will be rewarded, the ones who opposed us will get what they deserve. There is going to be hell to pay. Congress won’t be a problem for us this time. No election to worry about after this is over and we have two judges ready to go.”

Would seem it’s only about staying in control.

151 Dang August 25, 2014 at 4:59 PM

“Housing market is robust”

“Homebuilders in July saw a decrease in new-home sales in the U.S. for the second straight month, but prices have started to moderate and should help the market in the near future.

The U.S. Department of Commerce reported on Monday that new home sales fell 2.4 percent to a seasonally adjusted rate of 412,000 units, which is the lowest level since March, Reuters reported. New home sales also fell 7 percent in June.
July forecasts predicted 430,000 new home sales across the country, but results fell well short.”

152 Cat Wrangler August 25, 2014 at 5:04 PM

Remember, Walgreen’s showed that it is a real American corporation by choosing to forego moving its corp HQ to Europe and save Billions in taxes. It chose instead to stay in America and pay its share of taxes. Hurrah, Walgreen’s!

153 Yhe Phantom August 25, 2014 at 5:15 PM

@135 August 25, 2014 at 11:13 AM
Miss this ?
“In June (2014) the BLS reports that the number of full-time jobs tumbled by 523K to 118.2 million while part-time jobs soared by 799K to over 28 million!”


“The number of persons employed part time for economic reasons (sometimes referred to as involuntary part-time workers), at 7.5 million, was unchanged in July. These individuals were working part time because their hours had been cut back or because they were unable
to find a full-time job. (See table A-8.)”

There are 20,000,000 people working part time by choice. They want summer work…while attending school…like college or servers in the tourist industry,.

Mangling the data is not a political argument it is just mangling data.

6. “Often, they make wild and stupid claims and then expect others to prove them wrong. They believe this makes an intelligent argument, when in fact; all they are doing is making wild and stupid claims.” ~ shadowblade. Bizarre hypothetical imaginings are posed as realities. (See Factoid below***).

Todays’ Politics thread is filled with FACTOIDS…what are they?

*** A factoid is a questionable or spurious (unverified, false, or fabricated) statement presented as a fact, but without supporting evidence. The word can also be used to describe a particularly insignificant or novel fact, in the absence of much relevant context.[1] The word is defined by the Compact Oxford English Dictionary as “an item of unreliable information that is repeated so often that it becomes accepted as fact”.[2]

Factoid was coined by Norman Mailer in his 1973 biography of Marilyn Monroe. Mailer described a factoid as “facts which have no existence before appearing in a magazine or newspaper”,[3] and created the word by combining the word fact and the ending -oid to mean “similar but not the same”. The Washington Times described Mailer’s new word as referring to “something that looks like a fact, could be a fact, but in fact is not a fact”.[4]

154 Yhe Phantom August 25, 2014 at 5:18 PM

Dang me, Dang me, they oughta take a rope and hang me

Many Real Estate units in COCO County have recovered 94% of their 2007 pre-recession values.

The slowest recovery is in areas that were being specifically developed to take advantage of the mortgage bubble. These were most likely to be sold to NINJA loan buyers.

This also means hard re-fi loans may have been neutralized by values turning right side up!

155 Many Summers of Recovery August 25, 2014 at 5:31 PM

May 2011 those receiving food stamps numbered 45,410,683.
May 2014 there were 46,225,054 people on food stamps.

Increasing numbers of those dependent upon government,
mission accomplished.

156 Pegasus August 25, 2014 at 5:36 PM

RE: #144 –
For those folks who don’t know, Hyde Park provides a public location with a “soapbox” where any idiot lunatic can stand and rant and rave on any topic he / she chooses. It helps keep the crazies away from other places.
No skill of any kind is needed; no facts, no truth, no fairness, no honesty. Just appear and repeat, usually in a loud voice, any nonsense you choose.
Just like MSNBC you can do your best to stir the masses into a frenzy. And just like MSNBC you will not have much of an audience.

157 @152 August 25, 2014 at 5:56 PM

Management of a publicly held company have a fiduciary responsibility to the business’s shareholders. There are also legal responsibilities. Management is legally obligated to minimize tax liability under existing US laws.
But of course politicians and a complicit media will conveniently ignore those facts as will low information voters.

An look what upper management at Walgreen’s is doing ….
Wonder what shareholder lawyers will do?

If politicians have a problem with inversions they need to look in the mirror, THEY caused the problem.

Vote OUT anyone who has been in congress over ten years,
it’s time to drain that cesspool.

158 ... August 25, 2014 at 6:10 PM

“Three new Federal Reserve surveys reveal Obamacare continues to force employers to slash jobs and hours in response to the unpopular healthcare overhaul, reports The Wall Street Journal.

Last Thursday, the Federal Reserve Bank of Philadelphia reported findings from its Obamacare business survey, revealing that 18.2% of employers are cutting jobs and employees as a result of Obamacare. Moreover, 18% said they have also had to shift more of their workers to part time.

The New York Federal Reserve study found similar findings, with 21% of New York manufacturers and 16.9% of service businesses reporting reductions in the number of workers they employ due to Obamacare.

Lastly, the Atlanta Federal Reserve’s study found that 34% of businesses that do not cover health insurance plan to hire fewer full-time workers due to Obamacare’s tax penalty for companies with more than 50 workers.

According to the Investor’s Business Daily Obamacare scorecard, 429 employers have already slashed tens of thousands of workers’ hours and jobs as a result of Obamacare.”

Wonder how many of those affected employees no longer vote democrat?

159 @153 August 25, 2014 at 6:16 PM

Wrong table.

160 Dennis August 25, 2014 at 6:21 PM

I certainly hope this drives a stake through the heart if idiotic plans to require a 10-day wait for each ammunition purchase, or picking up a gun that was sent back to the manufacturer for repair.

161 It's Falling Apart August 25, 2014 at 6:42 PM

‘ObamaCare Employer Mandate: A List Of Cuts To Work Hours, Jobs’

It’s a LONG list and most affected employees are in the public sector.
Consider this, obamacare isn’t even close to being fully implemented and as it drives up insurance costs. Am glad I’m not a public sector employee. Would not be surprised to see retiring public sector employees not being replaced.

Think of obamacare as reward for trusting democrats not to screw it up AGAIN, which of course true to form they did. Obamacare has been changed without any vote by congress 43 times.

162 . August 25, 2014 at 7:02 PM

How fragile their mental state, when fact no longer supports their unrealistically myopic view of the world.

163 @Dennis August 25, 2014 at 7:17 PM

There’s a far simpler way, gun owners become active in election campaigns and also vote out democrats. What’s left will scurry away from gun control like cockroaches.

164 Let Them Eat Cake August 25, 2014 at 7:17 PM

In case you missed it.

Somehow, Elba seems too good.

165 ..... August 25, 2014 at 7:50 PM

It turns out that Lois Lerner’s emails do exist on a backup server (surprise) but the administration is not turning them over because it would be “too hard.”

Obstruction of justice? Yup! Time for impeachment? Yup!

166 Dennis August 25, 2014 at 7:57 PM
167 Yhe Phantom August 25, 2014 at 8:09 PM

Right table!

But what about household (family) net worth improvement over the last five years?

It increased from $59T to $82T.

“The net worth of households and nonprofits was
$81.8 trillion at end of the first quarter this year, about
$1.5 trillion more than at end of 2013.

In the first quarter, the value of directly and indirectly held
corporate equities increased $361 billion and the value
of real estate expanded $751 billion.”

Ain’t that a Bit-h!

168 It's 'Meme' is that you Ma? August 25, 2014 at 8:26 PM


As it spins it turns out the only JV about anything is the US President (mack smack talk the freshman) Obama…Himself.

Talk the talk – go man – but, hardly able to walk???

Sorry U S A – you got less than wonk!



169 @165 August 25, 2014 at 9:06 PM

“Time for impeachment? Yup!”

NO WAY, democrats aren’t getting off that easy.
Low information idiots wanted him, they deserve all 8 years of his bumbling.
Just hope by 2017 majority of the land masses, are still habitable.

170 Elwood August 25, 2014 at 9:21 PM

@ Hmmmm? #147

In lieu of a foreign policy, the O’dufus administration has a slogan: “Don’t do stupid ****.”

And they’re unable to adhere to even that.

171 Elwood August 25, 2014 at 9:25 PM

@ Pegasus #156

Hyde Park sounds like our most prolific poster, who begs people to engage with him.

172 ..... August 25, 2014 at 9:33 PM

Yeah, impeachment isn’t such a good idea. Look who would replace him.

173 Inflation-Adjusted is Real World August 25, 2014 at 9:45 PM

Not contrived fantasy LIAR numbers.
What can a real take home dollar buy you these days?

“The inflation-adjusted net worth for the typical household was $87,992 in 2003. Ten years later, it was only $56,335, or a 36 percent decline, according to a study financed by the Russell Sage Foundation.”

Value of a dollar?
A product costing $100.00 purchased in 2009, would cost today $111.05
Try the calculator yourself.

174 furian August 25, 2014 at 9:47 PM

“Anyone that gives Fox News any shred of credibility is ridiculous. When I’m out in the world and I hear people tell me that they watch Fox News, right away I question that person’s sanity to myself. That person can’t be of solid mind because no one of solid mind will watch Fox News and take it seriously.” -Jesse Ventura

Dang, when you’re too crazy for ‘The Body,’ you’re CRAZY!


175 The Modern Conservative August 25, 2014 at 9:53 PM

is engaged in one of man’s oldest exercises in moral philosophy;

that is search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. JK Galbreth

Of course not surprised because most of them throw around the terms socialist, communist, fascist, libertard and conservative not understanding what any of those terms mean either. Not the brightest bunch

176 Sarah Palin August 25, 2014 at 9:54 PM

Please let her run. Please let her run. Please let her run

177 The Real Moochers August 25, 2014 at 9:56 PM

The real moochers are the super rich that don’t want to pay taxes, therefore, they don’t pay for any of the services we all have to contribute…security, defense, a strong military, highways, bridges, benefits for veterans, airports, schools, science, freedom, a solid banking system etc etc. We pay for those things..they want’ them for free.

178 Way to Go GOP August 25, 2014 at 9:56 PM

John Boehner’s Lawsuit Against Obama Will Cost Taxpayers $500/Hour In Attorney Fees

179 @177 August 25, 2014 at 10:38 PM

For a minute there thought you were talkin’ ’bout the over 40% of all American households that pay ZERO income taxes.

180 Dennis August 25, 2014 at 11:12 PM

@#177 the super rich pay about 85% of all the personal income taxes, so how do you figure that they, not you, are the moochers?

181 ... August 25, 2014 at 11:15 PM
182 Elwood August 25, 2014 at 11:17 PM

Way to Go GOP August 25, 2014 at 9:56 PM #178

John Boehner’s Lawsuit Against Obama Will Cost Taxpayers $500/Hour In Attorney Fees

Gee whiz, that’s exactly what MY attorney charges!

Welcome to the 21st century.

183 Irony August 26, 2014 at 6:22 AM

Isn’t ironic that Obama and the likes of Bill Ayers live in an area of Chicago called Hyde Park?

184 me August 26, 2014 at 7:46 AM

Just waiting for conservatives to chime in…
Is this yet another Obama created distraction from items of REAL
importance…like BENGAZI ??

185 Laura Zah August 26, 2014 at 8:22 AM

@ me – If you’re going to be a liberal shill, you should at least learn how to spell “Benghazi”.

186 Connie Dobbs August 26, 2014 at 8:52 AM

#167 What are the numbers for just households, not households and nonprofits?

187 Connie Dobbs August 26, 2014 at 8:53 AM

#184 Yes. Even you guys are getting good at spotting those.

188 Connie Dobbs August 26, 2014 at 8:56 AM

#177 You mean like Dianne Feinstein? Harry Reid? The Clinton family? Agreed.

189 Pegasus August 26, 2014 at 10:42 AM

@ Connie #188 –

Badddddah-Binnnnnnnnnnnggggg!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Good one

190 CA Jobs August 26, 2014 at 10:57 AM

“Toyota announced in April that it was relocating its North American headquarters from Torrance, California, to Plano, Texas – along with 4,000 jobs.”

“Texas has earned a reputation for being “hands-off” when it comes to business regulation and strategy for reeling in struggling businesses from across the country, whereas California has more recently become known for its tendency to pounce on burdened companies with increased fines and more regulation.”

191 @184 August 26, 2014 at 11:02 AM

Lemme guess voted for obama twice.
A true low information voter with a 30 second attention span, who cares more about dancing with the stars on TV than learning about politicians that will affect your, your children’s’ and their children’s’ futures.

What a GOOD American you are.

192 Jesse August 26, 2014 at 11:41 AM

Dennis, if you want to talk taxes, why not look at the total tax burden instead of just federal income tax? When you factor in all types of taxes – payroll taxes, sales tax, income taxes, etc. – the rich aren’t giving much more to the tax man than the rest of us when you look at it as a percentage of their income. Most Americans pay between 25% and 30% of their income in taxes of all types. The top 1% pay 29%. Here’s the percentages we pay in total taxes, broken down by income group:

Bottom 20% in income: 17.4% of income goes to taxes.
20-40%: 21.2% of income goes to taxes
40-60%: 25.2% of income goes to taxes
60-80%: 28.3% of income goes to taxes
80-90%: 29.5% of income goes to taxes
90-95%: 30.3% of income goes to taxes
95-99%: 30.4% of income goes to taxes
Top 1%: 29% of income goes to taxes

193 @elwood 182 August 26, 2014 at 11:50 AM

The difference is you have money to pay. Boehner has no money

194 @191 August 26, 2014 at 11:52 AM

Whew….. Hlad we have you to keep us informed. Oh wait there was nothing in you post if value.

195 @190 August 26, 2014 at 11:54 AM

So you think 4000 families will be moving to Texas?

196 Rollo Tomasi August 26, 2014 at 11:55 AM

…and there it is. Those damned wealthy people just aren’t paying their “fair” share, are they Jesse?

Guess what princess, life isn’t always fair. When it is, it’s not always equal.

197 @196 August 26, 2014 at 1:43 PM

“So you think 4000 families will be moving to Texas?”

NO !

There’s just going to be 4,000 less jobs in taxifornia,
all as a result of decades of oppressive democrat control.

198 Mississippi August 26, 2014 at 1:57 PM

‘ Man, 32, is left with brain damage after ‘being attacked by gang of 20 black men’ in parking lot after being told Waffle House ‘wasn’t safe for white people after Ferguson’ ‘

Lets see if the Attorney General of the United States shows up in Mississippi with 40 FBI agents to investigate. Will the president make a statement?

199 ... August 26, 2014 at 2:06 PM

“On Monday evening, California Governor Jerry Brown said all Mexicans, including illegal immigrants, are welcome in California.”

200 It's About Control August 26, 2014 at 2:29 PM

“A group of Fresno farm workers is accusing the state of California of forcing them into the United Farm Workers union.

Workers at Fresno-based Gerawan Farms held an election in November to determine whether or not they would remain in the UFW. However, those ballots were never counted. The Agricultural Labor Relations Board (ALRB) seized the ballots until it could investigate UFW allegations of voter impropriety.”

“We have been forced to pay for the union based on a decision of workers 23 years ago,” she said. “We work so hard for our money and we’re not planning to give it away just because the UFW wants it.”

You really expect fair in this State ? ? ? ?

Where’s the Little Hoover Commission ? ? ? ?

201 Pegasus August 26, 2014 at 2:35 PM

Question: What should be done about the governor of the most populous state in the union throwing open the doors to any and all Mexican immigrants, legal or illegal? Is this sort of “come one, come all” policy the new normal in Obama’s America?

The Los Angeles Times reports that California Governor Jerry Brown — a far-left, liberal Democrat if there ever was one — hosted Mexican President Enrique Peña Nieto for a two-day tour of the Golden State.
It was bad enough that Peña Nieto told a gathering in Los Angeles that “this is the other Mexico”.
But then Brown opened his arms to illegal immigrants in the room, as well as throughout the state, with these five words: “You’re all welcome in California.”

Moonbeam Brown’s “who-cares-if-you’re-legal” immigration stance is so obviously an attempt to improve his political fortunes.

Just another criminal.

202 Thought Color Didn't Matter August 26, 2014 at 2:36 PM

“No White House representatives were present at the memorial mass held for James Foley on Sunday, although the president did send three to Michael Brown’s funeral…”

203 Way to Go GOP August 26, 2014 at 3:35 PM

Fiscal Conservatives Plan To Waste $350,000 Of Taxpayer Money On Suing President Obama

204 @197 August 26, 2014 at 3:42 PM

So 4,000 families would rather live with out jobs in CA that have a job in Texas. Wow that says a lot about Texas.

205 NO Xmas August 26, 2014 at 4:27 PM

Just got a WARN Act notice from employer, they are closing production down for FOUR WEEKS.

206 Yhe Phantom August 26, 2014 at 4:59 PM

Everybody is happy,

Wall Street is happy
The Real Estate Market is happy
The Military is happy
The educators are happy
The Whites are happy
The Blacks are happy
The Brown people are happy
The government is happy
The President is happy

I am happy

Is there anyone who is not happy?

207 @Pegasus 201 August 26, 2014 at 5:04 PM

Just more undocumented democrat voters.
After all isn’t that what CA is a welfare Nanny state?
An as demonstrated immigration laws only apply if it suits their political agenda. Their mega wealthy one percent campaign contributors need the cheap labor and they want to expand their voter base.

William Wilberforce Trafficking Victims Protection Reauthorization Act of 2008, law that administration is using as an excuse not to send illegals back, weLLL take a look at who sponsored the bill.
SURPRISE, SurPRISE, surprise, Senator Joseph Biden D-DE

Almost like they had the invasion across our Southern border,
all planned out, years and years ago.

Was their war on coal was all planned out years ago too?
From a campaign stop way back in 2006
at All American City, Maumee, OH.

208 That POS needs to get a wake up call August 26, 2014 at 5:08 PM

You libtards are crying about $350,000, but don’t say a word about the $17,000,000,000 National Debt.

209 color blind August 26, 2014 at 5:52 PM

“Family members have said Mr. Taylor was unarmed, although police have not confirmed that. His brother Jerrail Taylor told the Salt Lake Tribune that Dillon was wearing headphones and didn’t hear police until they surrounded him.

Jerrail Taylor also said his brother may have been pulling up his pants before responding to a command to lie down on the ground when he was shot.”

When is eric holder’s scheduled to arrive ?

210 ooops August 26, 2014 at 5:54 PM


17 trillion and counting, the National Debt will probably be 20 trillion before that POS leaves office.

211 Michelle(original) August 26, 2014 at 6:27 PM

@Thought Color Didn’t Matter
What you can’t do is fight someone’s personal demons inside themselves. If some people have their own issues, they have to work it out themselves. We leave those behind.

212 Voice Mail August 26, 2014 at 6:29 PM

Neville Chamberlain called, wants his foreign policy back.

213 The TEA Party was created because Obama, Pelosi, and Reid were burying America in Debt August 26, 2014 at 7:07 PM

Obama, Pelosi, and Harry Reid are the Worst thing that ever happened to America.

214 That's What's Wrong August 26, 2014 at 7:08 PM

“Leadership is a potent combination of strategy and character.
But if you must be without one, be without the strategy.”
General Norman Schwarzkopf

215 Yhe Phantom August 26, 2014 at 7:15 PM

$17,000,000,000 National Debt is only 14% of the total net worth of the United States of America, at $120T. This $17T is only 105% of the national annual GDP. This is no financial exposure except for those who suppose we can some day be “debt free”. This is not an intelligent objective.

“Don’t buy anything until you can pay all cash!” logic is flawed to stupid.

The National debt made up of various Treasury instruments, is a safe place for international trading partners (30%) and our Social Security and other US government holdings (50%) to hold assets.

It becomes a fine source of strength for emerging capitalistic countries like China. Their money is safer here than in Chinese National banks. They prefer to invest in the USA than European or other economies.

Everybody is happy, and the Federal Reserve is happy.

Happy, happy, happy!

216 Land of democrat CONTROL August 26, 2014 at 7:16 PM

“California has America’s greatest concentration of poverty, with some 23.8 percent of the population considered poor by a new U.S. Census Bureau calculation that takes into account the value of government benefits such as Medicaid and food assistance as well as taxes and the cost of living. This compares to 16.4 percent in Texas and means that proportionately, there are 45 percent more Californians living in poverty than there are Texans.

As for welfare, California dominates the nation, with 33.2 percent of the national Temporary Assistance for Needy Families caseload in 2013. By comparison, 12 percent of Americans live in California.

The role of unions is vastly different in the two biggest states: in California, they dominate; in Texas, a Right-to-Work state, they play a more modest part.

California’s renewable energy policies have led to higher electricity prices: California’s electricity prices were 45 percent higher than the national average on 2013, up from 38 percent higher in 2012; Texas’ electricity prices were 13 percent below the national average in 2013. Former State Sen. Joe Simitian (D-Palo Alto) was a big booster of the policies that have driven California’s electricity costs higher, saying at a Santa Cruz town hall in 2009 that his renewable bills would: “clean the air” “deal with the issue of global warming right now in a serious way” “we can diversify our energy portfolio so that we’re not at risk the way we were back in 2001” “and those green jobs that everyone keeps talking about, they can come to California…” . In 2000, California’s retail electricity was 26 percent more costly than the U.S. average–but the high-end residents of Santa Cruz and Palo Alto who live in a mild climate don’t much care about electricity bills or their effect on factory workers in Stockton. Ironically, back in 2002, California imported 23 percent of its electricity, now, after years of renewable “diversification,” California imports 30 percent of its electricity.

The cost of living in California is a big deal, and not all of it is driven by California’s good weather, rather, restrictive zoning, development fees, taxes and other regulations add up to 60% to the cost of housing which, in turn, affects the cost of living. In 2013, California’s cost of living was 128 percent of the national average which is a big reason why California’s supplemental poverty rate was the nation’s highest.

Lastly, it’s illuminating to note that about 18 percent of the lawmakers in California’s majority party in the last term had experience in business, farming or medicine before their election. This compares to 71 percent in Texas. The most common professions among California lawmakers: trial attorney, government employee, and community activist.”

217 Yhe Phantom August 26, 2014 at 7:18 PM

“Leadership is the ability to gain the willing obedience of people in the accomplishment of the mission, and to guard the welfare of those people.”

~ Spc5 Yhe Phantom, from NCO Leadership School.

Tell Gen.Schwarzkopf.

…What a character!

218 ... August 26, 2014 at 7:32 PM

Democrats seem to have an exploitative preoccupation with dead black youth. With a sole purpose, to motivate a minority voter base, which historically has a low turn out for mid term elections.

Leftist media will prioritize and flaunt Ferguson shooting until November elections.

219 FAIL August 26, 2014 at 7:39 PM

Why is it with every new reported failure comes a democrat press release touting their latest y bill to ” FIX ” all their previous failures.
All that is needed is More of Your Money.

Fewer than 4 in 10 California high school students are completing the requirements to be eligible for state’s public universities, fueling worries of a shortage of college-educated workers.

Democrat’s should be so proud for the 2011-2012 school year CA only had 66,523 high school dropouts.

220 Remember when Democrats used to be the Good Guy's? August 26, 2014 at 7:58 PM


221 Yhe Phantom August 26, 2014 at 8:03 PM

#216 Land of democrat CONTROL

– So move to Texas, the average IQ here will go up, and it will go up in Texas too…opps!

You can leave tomorrow because your replacement came over the border today…and he has a degree in engineering.

“taxes and other regulations add up to 60% to the cost of housing: Really?

Have you ever been to Texas? And talked to those people? Even once?

At least they’re happy.

222 Pegasus August 26, 2014 at 8:16 PM

The shoe is on the other foot and the Mexicans from the State of Sonora , Mexico do not like it. Can you believe the nerve of these people? It’s almost funny. The State of Sonora is angry at the influx of Mexicans into Mexico ! !

The state legislators from the Mexican State of Sonora traveled to Tucson to complain about Arizona ‘s new employer crackdown on illegals from Mexico. It seems that many Mexican illegals are returning to their hometowns and the officials in the Sonora state government are ticked off.

A delegation of nine state legislators from Sonora was in Tucson to state that Arizona ‘s new ‘Employer Sanctions Law’ will have a devastating effect on the Mexican state.
At a news conference, the legislators said that Sonora, – Arizona’s southern neighbor – made up of mostly small towns – cannot handle the demand for housing, jobs and schools that it will face as Mexican workers return to their hometowns from the USA without jobs or money.

The Arizona law, which took effect Jan. 1, punishes Arizona employers who knowingly hire individuals without valid legal documents to work in the United States. Penalties include suspension of, or loss of, their business license. The Mexican legislators are angry because their own citizens are returning to their hometowns, placing a burden on THEIR state government instead of ours.

‘How can Arizona pass a law like this?’ asked Mexican Rep Leticia Amparano-Gamez, who represents Nogales. ‘There is not one person living in Sonora who does not have a friend or relative working in Arizona,’ she said, speaking in Spanish. ‘Mexico is not prepared for this, for the tremendous problems it will face as more and more Mexicans working in Arizona and who were sending money to their families return to their hometowns in Sonora without jobs,’ she said ‘We are one family, socially and economically,’ she said of the people of Sonora and Arizona .

Wrong! The United States is a sovereign nation, not a subsidiary of Mexico, and its taxpayers are NOT responsible for the welfare of Mexico ‘s citizens. It’s time for the Mexican government, and its citizens, to stop feeding parasitically off the United States and to start taking care of its/their own needs.

Too bad that other states within the USA don’t pass a law just like that passed by Arizona . . maybe that’s the answer, since our own Congress will do nothing!!

*New Immigration Laws*
1. There will be NO special bilingual programs in the schools.
2. All ballots will be in THIS nation’s language.
3. All government business will be conducted in our language.
4. Non-residents will NOT have the right to vote no matter how long they are here.
5. Non-citizens will NEVER be able to hold political office.
6. Foreigners WILL NOT be a burden to the taxpayers. NO WELFARE, NO food stamps, NO health care, or ANY other government assistance programs. Any who are a burden will be DEPORTED!!!
7. Foreigners can invest in this country, but it must be an amount at least equal to 40,000 times the daily minimum wage.
8. If foreigners come here and buy land, their options will be restricted. Certain parcels including waterfront property are reserved for CITIZENS naturally born into this country.
9. Foreigners may have NO protests; NO demonstrations, NO waving of a foreign flag, NO political organizing, NO bad-mouthing our president or his policies. THESE WILL LEAD TO DEPORTATION!! If you do come to this country ILLEGALLY, you will be actively HUNTED, and, when CAUGHT, sent to jail until your deportation can be arranged. ALL ASSETS WILL BE TAKEN FROM YOU!!!

Too strict.? The above laws are the current immigration laws of MEXICO.! If it’s good for American’s to obey Mexican laws, then it’s good vice versa.!!!

223 ..... August 26, 2014 at 8:51 PM

Ya know, phantom….

I’ve met plenty of folks with high IQs that had zero common sense.

224 Yhe Phantom August 26, 2014 at 8:59 PM

“Democrats do have an exploitative preoccupation with a dead black youth. With a sole purpose, to motivate a minority voter base, which historically has a low turn out for mid term elections. Leftist media will prioritize and flaunt Ferguson shooting until November elections.”

– On this we do …agree…and that is why the Black people are happy.

Yet the story will be stale by September 20, or until the no misconduct announcement is made…then it’s back to work for Rev Al and the Brown family.

225 OH Really ? August 26, 2014 at 10:12 PM

“…The United States is a sovereign nation, not a subsidiary of Mexico…”

“Before he addressed the California State Legislature, Peña Nieto said, “I believe that most of you speak Spanish.” ”

“He thanked Gov. Jerry Brown and the Legislature for recognizing Mexican migrants and passing legislation that benefits illegal immigrants–like giving them driver’s licenses and access to in-state tuition.”

Looks very much as if democrats are in the process of turning CA into a subsidiary of Mexico.

moonbeam complained recently to attendees at 31st Annual National Association of Latino Elected and Appointed Officials Conference affluent families seemed to not be “producing” children in the state.

He went on to say, “I don’t know what the affluent families are doing,” Brown said. “They’re not producing or something, because half the kids in schools are from low-income families.”

“In California, out of six million students, two million are designated English-language learners, and that means extra money for that school, as well as for low-income families, and that’s about half the students in California,” Brown said.”

democrats making Sanctuary nanny state a subsidiary of Mexico.

226 OH Really ? August 26, 2014 at 10:16 PM

For low information voters Nieto is, Enrique Peña Nieto President of Mexico.

227 Anon August 27, 2014 at 5:08 AM

California suffers from the highest poverty rate in the nation, crumbling infrastructure, and failing social services. However, instead of planning to fix these issues, our State Legislature is preparing to add a line to the budget that would provide millions in taxpayer dollars to be used to prevent the deportation of illegal aliens in California.

Money under this bill would go to immigration lawyers, likely funded through advocacy groups who oppose enforcement of America’s immigration laws. Depending on how well this program exceeds in obstructing deportations, this program will commit the state to further long-term costs, requiring the state to spend more money on education and medical care into the future. The worst part of this bill is that it will continue to encourage minors to make the dangerous and often fatal journey from Central America to the United States. Additionally, once these illegal aliens arrive in California, they too will require assistance and will likely worsen the poverty rate.

Click here and tell your California legislators to delete legal services for illegal aliens from the budget.

This appropriation was just amended into the state budget last week prior to passing the Assembly. Its removal would require floor votes in both the Senate and Assembly before the legislature adjourns at the end of the month.


Dick Schneider, M.S.
CAPS Chairman

228 Elwood August 27, 2014 at 1:39 PM
229 Dennis August 27, 2014 at 1:39 PM

LOS ANGELES – A man in custody is a serial killer who is suspected of randomly shooting seven people, leaving four dead, over five days in the Los Angeles area, authorities said Tuesday.

Deputy Chief Kirk Albanese said at a news conference that the three other victims were critically injured and two dogs were also shot and killed before the arrest of 34-year-old Alexander Hernandez of Sylmar

Hernandez has served prison time and has four prior convictions, including possession for sale of methamphetamine, possession of a controlled substance with a firearm, and possession of a firearm by a felon, authorities said.

230 Dennis August 27, 2014 at 1:44 PM

95% of violent crime is committed by felons/gangs. The only way to reduce violent crime is to keep felons locked up. Eliminate early parole. Eliminate plea bargains for violent felonies. Each extra year that felons reman locked up, 100,000 violent crimes are prevented.

Time to get rid of Liberal politicians who believe that prison is rehabilitation, and early release is a benefit to the community.

Lock them up and throw away the key. The cost will be recovered by not paying their welfare and Section 8 housing.

231 Marissa August 27, 2014 at 1:51 PM

lol :-)

232 Co August 27, 2014 at 2:13 PM

Right now, there are two bills in the California legislature that our state’s bishops believe represent a dangerous government intrusion into parents’ rights.

The first, Assembly Bill 499, would let children 12 and under decide for themselves to get vaccines or take other medications to prevent sexually transmitted diseases.

This would undermine parents’ duty to educate their children in moral values. It also violates parents’ rights to be responsible for their children’s physical and spiritual well being.

By passing this bill, in effect, government would be encouraging young people to engage in activities that are contrary to their parents’ moral values — and then to lie about it or keep it secret from their parents.

Children are not mature enough to think through the consequences of complicated medical decisions. This legislation would have children face these decisions without parental guidance — and under pressure from adults and corporate interests that have financial and other motives to promote these medications.

A second bill, Senate Bill 48, would require school textbooks to teach about the sexual orientations of figures in American history. This amounts to the government rewriting history books based on pressure-group politics. It is also another example of the government interfering with parents’ rights to be their children’s primary educators.

The California State Catholic Conference is urging that both of these bills be rejected.

As we pray for one another this week, let us commit ourselves to promoting the God-given rights of parents and families in California and in our country.

Let us work to become a people who no longer resort to abortion, birth control, in vitro fertilization and divorce. Let us build a future for our nation in which children grow up in families based on God’s law and the natural law.

And let us ask Mary, the Queen of the Family, to help us win the grace we need to stand up for parents and the family in our day.
To learn more about AB 499 and SB 99, see the California Catholic Conference’s “Action Alerts”at:

233 Do Democrates Cause Cancer? August 27, 2014 at 3:20 PM

Find out on Fox News tonight at 6pm.

234 anon August 27, 2014 at 3:23 PM

How low does you IQ have to be to want to teach your 9 year old daughter to use an uzi?

235 Mitch Mcconnel Caught on Tape August 27, 2014 at 3:26 PM

“So in the House and Senate, we own the budget. So what does that mean? That means that we can pass the spending bill. And I assure you that in the spending bill, we will be pushing back against this bureaucracy by doing what’s called placing riders in the bill. No money can be spent to do this or to do that. We’re going to go after them on healthcare, on financial services, on the Environmental Protection Agency, across the board (inaudible). All across the federal government, we’re going to go after it…

And we’re not going to be debating all these gosh darn proposals. That’s all we do in the Senate is vote on things like raising the minimum wage (inaudible)—cost the country 500,000 new jobs; extending unemployment—that’s a great message for retirees; uh, the student loan package the other day, that’s just going to make things worse, uh. These people believe in all the wrong things.

236 How do you spell corruption? August 27, 2014 at 3:28 PM


Coincidentally, it’s also how you spell abuse of power, hypocrisy, bigotry and con-artist.

237 @238 August 27, 2014 at 3:51 PM

Most spell it harry reid.

“Currently, 352 bills that passed the House are awaiting action on Harry “Reid’s desk. Of these bills:
– 98% passed with bipartisan support
– Nearly 70% passed with 2/3rds support or more
– Over 50% passed with no opposition at all
– And 55 were introduced by Democrats

And still, Harry Reid refuses to bring them up for a vote.”

‘Harry Reid is Killing the Senate’

238 Yhe Phantom August 27, 2014 at 4:30 PM

These are the good times of Hope and Change we were promised.

The only people who refuse to see this are the accusers, blamers, and the complainers.

Such people complain about winning the lottery because they take out the taxes right away and they make you choose between an annuity or a cash out payoff, and then they tell everybody where you bought your ticket.

Complain, complain, complain…but these are the Good Times for everyone else.

239 @238 August 27, 2014 at 4:57 PM

Correction @236

240 . August 27, 2014 at 5:34 PM

Is being predicted new California tax on gasoline will raise prices from 20 cents to $1.30 per gallon. A state senator who helped write the bill estimated the cost at 40 cents per gallon.

241 @236 August 27, 2014 at 5:45 PM

What’s wrong with what he said?
It’s time the run away bastardization of government is reigned in.

242 To Elba August 27, 2014 at 6:14 PM

‘Obama fails history 101′

“Mr. Obama’s naive belief in predetermined history — especially when his facts are often wrong — is a poor substitute for concrete moral action.”

243 Yhe Phantom August 27, 2014 at 6:41 PM

Please forward to:
Victor Davis Hanson: a classicist and historian with the Hoover Institution and Stanford University.

Read more:


The world has changed with leaders who could telescope time:

Having lost New York, instead of waiting for the spring season, Gen. Washington Crossed the Delaware, Dec 25th 1776. He won the Battle for Trenton on Christmas Day. The men were freezing, yet we were a success.

Vice Adm. Nelson, at the Battle of Trafalgar, 21 October 1805, attacked out of formation. This saved hours of tactical alignment of the fleet. He won the battle against the combined fleets of Napoleon’s French and Spanish Navies.

Though he lost his life in the battle, Adm. Nelson was a success.

General George Patton relieved the 101st Airborne at Bastogne, in three days, 26 December 1944; three Days, not three weeks, as supposed by Eisenhower’s General staff. He had hoarded gasoline, secreted in hidden tank trucks all over Pas d’ le Loire.

Adm. Chester Nimitz demanded the USS Yorktown leave Pearl Harbor in time for The Battle of Midway…

She was smashed at the Battle of the Coral Sea 2 May 1942; she limped back to Pearl. Arriving at Pearl Harbor 27 May, Nimitz was told repairs would take six months, at the Seattle Naval shipyard.

Yorktown left Pearl Harbor 30 May 1942, three days later.

Arrived 4 June Midway, a week later, to win the greatest sea battle in history. Sadly, the USS Yorktown was sunk in that battle.

The Battle of Manila Bay took place at 5:40 am on 1 May 1898, during the Spanish-American War. It was the attack of The American Asiatic Squadron under Commodore George Dewey. The engagement took place in Manila Bay, the Philippines, and was the first major engagement of the Spanish-American War. He suffered one casualty, an engineer died of a heart attack. The Spanish surrendered seven hours later.

Dewey attacked the Philippine Navy while the Spanish were still at anchor.

Extracted from

– How did Adm. Nimitz do it on the USS Yorktown?

Instead of waiting for the repairs in dry dock, he loaded up contractors and all repair materials and raised anchor. The repairs were made at sea. As portions were completed, contractors were returned to Pearl and waste materials were ejected overboard.

We were not ready at Normandy on June 6th 1944. There was something wrong with the tank disembarkation method. Artillery barrages were too high and flew over the beach guns. All the troops were seasick and needed better weather, which was promised for June 10th. The air cover was impossible because of the visibility

Everything was going to go wrong. The invasion was a success. Gen Eisenhower successfully invaded Nazis held Western Europe.

The ObamaCare roll out approved by President Obama for October 1st 2013 is consistent with the decisions of the greatest historical military leaders.

No one will ever be completely prepared or assured of success in anything…the important thing is to start! And to persevere no matter the critics and the enemies.

The goodness of the mission foreordains success!

We have made a beginning. There will be no end to our struggle for a world of “Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness” for every American.


244 Obamacare Fail August 27, 2014 at 6:47 PM

I am working at a Hospital in San Jose.

It is filled with illegals all day, everyday getting free health care.

Why should they pay for ObamaCare when they can just go to the Emergency Room and have someone else pay their bill.

I thought Obamacare was going to stop this.

245 Freeloaders August 27, 2014 at 6:58 PM

The United States currently has an estimated 11 million immigrants (probably more like 30 million) who entered this country illegally. According to the National Research Council, the migration of these individuals into the United States costs American taxpayers $346 billion annually.

Now we are starting to get a feel for the costs being absorbed by one sector — the U.S. healthcare system — to treat this population. And the cost is staggering.

The Center for Immigration Studies estimates that the current cost of treating uninsured immigrants who entered this country illegally at all levels of government to be $4.3 billion a year, primarily at emergency rooms and free clinics. This doesn’t take into account the billions being absorbed by in-patient care delivered by hospitals.

Who is picking up these costs? Every American taxpayer — not to mention medical facilities and insurance companies who turn around and raise their rates for everyone else.

For instance, it may surprise you to learn that immigrants who entered this country illegally, who have not paid one dime into Medicaid, are receiving Medicaid benefits. Kaiser Healthcare News reports that “federal law generally bars immigrants who enter this country illegally from being covered by Medicaid. But a little-known part of the state-federal health insurance program for the poor has long paid about $2 billion a year for emergency treatment for a group of patients who, according to hospitals, mostly comprise this class of immigrants.”

A 2007 report by the Journal of the American Medical Association found that in a four-year period, about 99 percent of those who used Emergency Medicaid were determined to be immigrants that entered this country illegally.

246 Yhe Phantom August 27, 2014 at 7:00 PM



“About 20.8 million people are now enrolled in insurance because of the law, said HHS Secretary Kathleen Sebelius. That includes those 8 million who enrolled in private insurance, 4.8 million now covered by Medicaid and the Children’s Health Insurance Program, 5 million who bought coverage outside the state and federal exchanges and 3 million adults younger than 26 now covered through their parents’ insurance.

“Eighty-five percent of those who enrolled in private health insurance through the state and federal exchanges between Oct. 1 and April 15 received federal subsidies to help pay for it, the HHS report showed. That is similar to figures released earlier by HHS.

“The statistics also show that 28% of the 8,019,763 people who selected private health insurance are between the ages of 18 and 34, the age group that insurance analysts believe will help balance out the market’s finances.

“The new data showed that 54% of those enrolling in insurance were women, while 63% of all enrollees were white. Of the remaining enrollees, the HHS report showed, 17% were African American, 11% Hispanic, 8% Asian, 1% multiracial, 0.3% American Indian/Alaska native and 0.1% native Hawaiian/Pacific islander.

More divisionism expressed as information from the real world. Oh well!

– 85% to 90% are paying the premiums according to insurers

The total was adjusted in June to include 1.5M more covered under Expanded Medicaid.

247 Our immigration system is NOT broken-- ENFORCEMENT of it is! August 27, 2014 at 7:09 PM

We need to cut off the threatening poisonous snake’s head! ILLEGAL aliens are NOT, “just doing jobs Americans won’t do”!

What we REALLY need is ENFORCEMENT of existing laws, mainly in the workplace.

Second, curtail ILLEGAL handouts to ILLEGAL aliens– they swill welfare more than citizens do.

Third, stop this silly birthright citizenship misinterpretation of the 14th Amendment…if an ambassador has a child here, that child is NOT a citizen…the same rule should apply if someone overstays a visa or wades across the Rio Grande to push out an “anchor baby.”

Do these things, and millions self-deport via attrition the same way they got here– at THEIR expense. Deportation is a straw man argument. No jobs, no freebies– NO STAY!

Here are the direct web sites for Congress for your e-mails and phone calls:

And you can let these proven pros help you send free, targeted e-mails:

Keep fighting! America, the last best hope for the world, WOULD BE a terrible thing to waste and lose!

248 Gov. Perry: Terrorist groups could be taking advantage of border crisis August 27, 2014 at 7:39 PM

Texas Gov. Rick Perry said terrorist groups, including ISIS who earlier this week killed an American journalist, could be using the ongoing border surge crisis along the U.S.-Mexico border to sneak operatives into the United States. Perry spoke at The Heritage Foundation in Washington D.C. as part of a discussion panel called The Border Crisis and the New Politics of Immigration. Perry said Congress needs to focus on securing the border before discussing broader immigration reform.

“How about we start with comprehensive border enforcement?” Gov. Perry said. “Defending the border is not a political option. It is a constitutional obligation. Until the federal government meets that duty and secures that border, all talk of immigration reform is pointless because Washington has no credibility on the matter.”

Texas has been on the front-lines throughout the border surge with the majority of illegal border crossers and unaccompanied alien children illegally crossing through the Rio Grande Valley border sector. Numerous videos have spread across the internet showing smugglers using jet skis to bring people from Mexico to the United States across the river. Last month, Gov. Perry took a proactive step by ordering the deployment of 1,000 Texas National Guard troops to the border to support Border Patrol efforts.

“I think there is the obvious, great concern that — because of the condition of the border from the standpoint of it not being secure and us not knowing who is penetrating across — that individuals from ISIS or other terrorist states could be [coming across],” Perry said.

249 .... August 27, 2014 at 7:58 PM

So, Libs….

Speaking of corruption… about the statement that Lois Lerner’s emails DO exist, but they won’t be turned over because it would be too hard.p

And the liberals complain about the GOP???

As far as I’m concerned, this entire admonistration of “openness” and transparency ought to be taken out and hung! Whatta bunch of out and out liars!

You gonna defend your little WH resident for that?

Hypocrisy reigns supreme in the Dem party.

Go ahead, call everyone names. The fact of this lying administration remains!

Go drink your kool-aid and redirect/blame it on Bush. You’re so predictable!

250 Yhe Phantom August 27, 2014 at 8:16 PM

Some people are so unhappy…nothing we can do…we just keep sipping the Merlot they think is Kool-Aid.

The wheel of cheese is Brie, not well liked in the Red states..

George W. Bush is someone from the past and those days are behind us, forever.

251 1980s Are Calling August 27, 2014 at 8:40 PM

‘Ukraine gathers its military forces after 100 Russian tanks ‘are seen crossing the border’ just hours after Vladimir Putin vowed to end bloodshed’

252 Dennis August 27, 2014 at 8:57 PM

“The ObamaCare roll out approved by President Obama for October 1st 2013 is consistent with the decisions of the greatest historical military leaders. ”

how arrogant – and ignorant – to list military successes by the US Military, and then try to include Obamacare as a victory, just like them.

Wrong at every level. Even the KGB disinformation experts wouldn’t have tried to float that crap past the American public.

But then, we seem to be getting a lot more stupid uninformed voters than we had 40 years ago …..

253 Dennis August 27, 2014 at 8:59 PM

@#24 here’s the 2005 study (which Shallowbrain and Phantom desperately scream is out of context, or erroneous, or or or … whatever).

Study: Emergency health care for illegal immigrants costly
By Steve Hartsoe – Associated Press Writer

Researchers looking at so-called emergency Medicaid in North Carolina found that the overwhelming majority of such patients were female Hispanic illegal immigrants, and more than 80 percent received care related to childbirth and complications of pregnancy.

DuBard and Dr. Mark Massing, of the Cary-based Carolinas Center for
Medical Excellence, examined administrative data for
317,090 paid Medicaid claims in North Carolina during the four-year study period.

They found that
99 percent of the 48,391 people who received emergency Medicaid were illegal immigrants,
95 percent were female and
93 percent were Hispanic.

254 JWB August 27, 2014 at 9:04 PM

@ tiny dots #249

I know this piece is a little less partisan but maybe a little more balanced.

Just in case you want to get a fuller picture, I mean other than just what you generally read on your blogs.

Of course I doubt that you would be interested in it …….

And of course you might also want to read the comments to this piece it seems like quite a few attorneys who have been involved in e-discovery chimed in.

255 JWB August 27, 2014 at 9:22 PM

Really old man Dennis? this is within probably about the last two years at least the third of forth time you keep posting this. You just keep showing that you have no clue what that study actually showed.

But hey why would I be suprised since we all know

“Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.”

256 .... August 27, 2014 at 9:42 PM

And once again, they refuse to acknowledge the crimes being perpetrated by this most transparent administration.

Deflect, ignore, tax, spend and lie…….the mantra of the liberals.

257 furian August 27, 2014 at 9:47 PM

I see little dots is still ranting and raving, I knew I recognized his posts from Craigslist.


I’m traveling for work, damn that growing economy but I’ll still make time for you guys! You wingies love me, admit it!


258 But Don't They August 27, 2014 at 10:07 PM
259 Just Like Last Time August 27, 2014 at 10:15 PM
260 @248 August 27, 2014 at 10:17 PM

Is that the Gov Perry that will get 10-20 in the Texas pen?

261 Some One Mention GOP Corruption? August 27, 2014 at 10:33 PM

Scott Walker Approves Obscure Tax Break For Furniture Company, Quickly Collects Large Campaign Donation

Less than a month after voting to give a Wisconsin furniture company a $6 million tax credit that allows it to lay off half its in-state workforce, Gov. Scott Walker (R) received $20,000 in campaign donations from the company’s leadership, a newspaper in the state reports.

Ashley Furniture won the credit from the Wisconsin Economic Development Corporation (WEDC) in January on a 9-2 vote. As WEDC Chairman, Walker was one of the 9 votes in favor. Then in February his campaign received four $5,000 donations from company founder Ronald Wanek, current CEO Todd Wanek, and their respective spouses, the Wisconsin State Journal reports

262 @252 August 27, 2014 at 11:05 PM
263 @261 August 27, 2014 at 11:10 PM
264 shadowblade August 28, 2014 at 12:58 AM

Dennis #253

Again? Really?

“Overall, the study found the cost of treating the emergency health care needs of recent and illegal immigrants made up less than 1 percent of the overall spending on Medicaid in North Carolina each year studied.”

The sky is falling…

265 Dennis August 28, 2014 at 2:36 AM

@JWB every time I post it, you whine that it is somehow not true … and then you and PhanDumb post bunches of irrelevant but associated data, hoping to buy the needle under a stack of donkey-manure laden hay.

266 RunDogRun August 28, 2014 at 5:23 AM

I think you guys have finally
succeeded. See @206 Yhe
Phantom August 26, 2014 at
4:59 PM — He’s blubbering
nonsense to himself.

267 JWB August 28, 2014 at 9:09 AM

@ Dennis

Well just because you keep posting your ignorant rants over and over again it doesn’t make them true:

Let me just highlight a few of your stated or implied false statements:

1) as obviously shadowblade #264 alreay stated the overall cost of emergency medicaid was less than 1% of North Carolina’s medicaid expenditure during that time period.

2) The study clearly states that federal law does not provide Medicaid coverage to those who are in the country unlawfully or to legal immigrants who have lived in the United States for less than 5 years, it does provide coverage in emergency situations to adults, children, pregnant women, families with dependent children, and elderly or disabled individuals who meet state income and residency requirements.

3) I’m not sure what you try to imply by using the term “so-called emergency Medicaid”? It is a very clear defined term for the provision of the law. It is available in certasin defined situation to people who under the law are not elegible for Medicaid, such as:thoese who are in the country unlawfully or to legal immigrants who have lived in the United States for less than 5 years.

4) The study actually doesn’t say: “99 percent of the 48,391 people who received emergency Medicaid were illegal immigrants”. It explains that, because lawfull residence under this provision is not a requirement the health care provider generally do not document the legal status of the recipients. Hence the legal status of 99% of the people who received treatment under this provision of the law have their legal status not dcumented. But there is now way to know how many of the recipients are in this country unlawfuly and how many are here legally but have lived in the United States less than five years.

5) I know you seem puzzled by the 99% number. This says more about you than about the study. Clearly a person who would not be blinded by prejudice would understand that it makes perfect sense that a provision of the law designed for a certain group would be used by that certain group. There is nothing suprising here.

Here are some of the conclusions by the authros of the study::

DuBard and Massing conclude that “Emergency Medicaid is primarily filling 3 gaps in the health care needs of this population: child-birth related costs, emergency care of sudden-onset problems, and emergency care for severe complications of chronic disease” The authors go on to make several suggestions for change among them for example, it may be more cost-effective to provide coverage for contraceptive and prenatal care, given the major toll that pregnancy and postpartum complications take on Emergency Medicare spending, and it is in everyone’s best economic interest that the children are born healthy, given that they are U.S. citizens and eligible for Medicaid.

Here is a summary of the study published in the American Medical Association Journal of Ethics:

268 JWB August 28, 2014 at 9:50 AM

Really Dennis just because you keep posting your ignorant rants full of false explcit or implicit statements it doesn’t make it true.

Let me just address some of your statements:

1) as shadowblade already pointed out “Emergency Medicaid” accounted for less than 1% of North Carolina’s Medicaid expenditure. So where do you find support in the cited study for your statement that: “Emergency health care for illegal immigrants costly”

2) The study clearly states that: “:federal law does not provide Medicaid coverage to those who are in the country unlawfully or to legal immigrants who have lived in the United States for less than 5 years, it does provide coverage in emergency situations to adults, children, pregnant women, families with dependent children, and elderly or disabled individuals who meet state income and residency requirements.”

3) The study doesn’t say”:99 percent of the 48,391 people who received emergency Medicaid were illegal immigrants ” It actually explains that under the law coverage is provided to those who are in the country unlawfully or to legal immigrants who have lived in the United States for less than 5 years. Since documentation of lawfull residence is not a conditon for this limited coverage in these narrow definded situations health care provider generally don’t waist their time documenting the legal status of the recipients. But from the study there is no way to determine how many of the recipients were here unlawfully and how many where here legally but less than five years.

4) I know you are smitten by the 99% finding, which of course tells more about your prejudce than about the study. Clearly, since this provision in the law is designed for “those who are in the country unlawfully or to legal immigrants who have lived in the United States for less than 5 years” it should really not be suprising that 99% of the recipients are “those who are in the country unlawfully or to legal immigrants who have lived in the United States for less than 5 years”.

Here is what the study authers actually conclude from the study:

“Emergency Medicaid is primarily filling 3 gaps in the health care needs of this population: child-birth related costs, emergency care of sudden-onset problems, and emergency care for severe complications of chronic disease”

They go on to say that say that “it may be more cost-effective to provide coverage for contraceptive and prenatal care, given the major toll that pregnancy and postpartum complications take on Emergency Medicare spending, and it is in everyone’s best economic interest that the children are born healthy, given that they are U.S. citizens and eligible for Medicaid.”

Here is a summary of the study published in the American Medical Association Journal of Ethics:

269 Tear Down This Loop Hole August 28, 2014 at 10:14 AM

Editorial: Burger King’s deal is rotten for taxpayers
Would you like a tax loophole with that?

It may make perfect business sense for Burger King to place an order to buy Tim Hortons, the Canadian coffee-and-doughnut chain, for $11 billion. But by moving the combined corporate headquarters north of the border, Burger King can also lower its U.S. tax bill.

This latest “tax inversion” deal should break the logjam on corporate tax reform.

Burger King says that the two chains will continue to operate independently and that it will keep offices in Miami. Florida is considered a low-tax state because it charges no state income taxes. So why put Burger King’s official

headquarters in Canada?

The U.S. corporate tax rate is 35 percent, while the Canadian rate is 15 percent. Foreign-based companies do not have to pay U.S. taxes on their earnings outside our borders until they bring that money back here, and can do some slick accounting to further reduce payments to the federal treasury.

Consequently, a growing number of U.S. companies are reincorporating abroad by merging or purchasing a foreign firm, including two major pharmaceutical companies last month. And it’s all entirely legal

Read more here:

270 Yhe Phantom August 28, 2014 at 12:57 PM

Pending home sales rose in July to their highest level in nearly a year, according to a new report.

The National Assn. of Realtors said Thursday that its pending sales index climbed 3.3% last month after slipping 1.25% in June. The index, which tracks contracts signed for previously owned homes, hasn’t been higher since August 2013.

The increase from June, which beat expectations of a 0.5% rise, provides another indication that the housing market is strengthening after starting to cool last summer.

Although sales remain below year-ago levels, an improving labor market and low mortgage rates are boosting demand, said Lawrence Yun, the trade group’s chief economist.

“Steady job additions to the economy are helping family finances and giving them added confidence to enter the market,” he said.

– Is everybody happy?

271 Yhe Phantom August 28, 2014 at 1:02 PM

“They found that
99 percent of the 48,391 people who received emergency Medicaid were illegal immigrants,
95 percent were female and
93 percent were Hispanic.”

– Conspicuously false data…99%, 95%, 93%

What happened to all the uninsured white southern males…did they died?

272 Yhe Phantom August 28, 2014 at 1:10 PM

North Carolina makes me happy…a State filled with completely generous caring folks looking out for the disadvantaged with gracious and loving concern.

North Carolina is not complaining about the Medicaid coverage.

273 Yhe Phantom August 28, 2014 at 1:22 PM

Re: “@JWB every time I post it, you whine that it is somehow not true … and then you and PhanDumb post bunches of irrelevant but associated data, hoping to buy the needle under a stack of donkey-manure laden hay.



“CHAPEL HILL, NC – An analysis of state Emergency Medicaid spending contradicts assumptions about emergency care provided to recent immigrants, researchers from the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill and the Carolinas Center for Medical Excellence have found.

Results: A total of 48,391 individuals received services reimbursed under Emergency Medicaid during the 4-year period of this study. The patient population was 99% undocumented, 93% Hispanic, 95% female, and 89% in the 18- to 40-year age group.

According to the Kaiser Family Foundation, in fiscal year (FY) 2009 North Carolina’s Medicaid program provided coverage to more than 1.8 million individuals sometime during the year [7]. The total program cost was approximately $10.9 billion in FY 2010 [8].

Total Medicare Emergency $52.9 million in 2004

12,097 Emergency (est.) / 1,800,000 all NC Medicare patients = 0.00672097 = 0.67% = 0.7% less than 1%

Represented (est.) 0.58% = 0.6% of total Medicaid dollars.


$1,250,000,000 Emergency Medicaid spent on undocumented aliens /

$54,906,617,863 Total Medicaid FY 2011 = 0.0227659260149465 = 2.27%

This is how we are treating about 2,830,000 illegal aliens at 7.5% of the state’s population.

I think many people are making a full time career over the really small stuff.

North Carolina illegals getting less than 1% of the Medicaid budget!
California illegals getting 2.2% of the same thing.

All this while we ignore 30,000,000 living without medical insurance because it is too expensive, (perhaps because we pay $12.00 for Tylenol, $42.00 plastic breathing mask, made in China, $750 a day shared room rates).

The illegals and the insurance is not the problem…it is the method of reimbursement to the health care system in place now.

ObamaCare changes the structure of the billing algorithm and pays for performance, not for unique pieces of equipment, tools, expensive brand name meds (where generics are available), and excessive procedure.

Many people are simply missing the main point for their resentment that the President is implementing the Republican solution.

The alternative is a single payer solution…Socialism.

Democrats and President Obama are doing everything we can to prevent that.

274 Yhe Phantom August 28, 2014 at 1:38 PM

Syria’s bloody civil war has spawned a separate rift with ramifications well beyond the region known as the Levant — a battle for the very soul of the global jihad movement.

Islamic militants who poured into the embattled nation to help the Free Syrian Army in its bid to topple dictator Bashar Assad are now fighting Assad, the rebels and each other in a barbaric free-for-all. At the center is the split between Al Qaeda’s regional affiliate, Jabhat al-Nusra, and the newly emerged Islamic State, which are fighting each other on the battlefield and in the war for recruits to the cause of Islamic terrorism.

“The two groups are now in an open war for supremacy of the global jihadist movement,” according to Middle East scholar Aaron Zelin in a research paper published by the Washington Institute for Near East Policy, a U.S.-based think tank.

:…Another fighter urges Islamic State fighters to defect and “return to the truth” by joining Al Nusra, which is aligned with several Islamist rebel militias in Syria and has been fighting against the Islamic State since last winter, when Al Qaeda leader Ayman al-Zawahiri disavowed Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi, the boss of the upstart group then known as ISIS.

“Al Qaeda announces that it does not link itself with [ISIS] … It is not a branch of the Al Qaeda group, does not have an organizational relationship with it and [Al Qaeda] is not the group responsible for their actions,” the terror network’s General Command declared.

– And each group has another split within…Alexander the Great had the same experience with these people before they were Muslims.

Old school Arabians

275 JWB August 28, 2014 at 1:41 PM

@ Phantom #271

You actually are pointing out the implied message in Dennis’ rant.

Of course not 99% of all the births in North Carolina covered under Medicaid were by either those who are in the country unlawfully or by legal immigrants who have lived in the United States for less than 5 years.

The study did not look at people receiving Medicaid in general or even in emergency situations, including pregnancy.

The study only looked at the folks reciving coverage through “emergency Medicaid” which is a provision under the law which provides coverage for those which under the law do not receive regular Medicaid as long as they meet certain emergency health criteria such as for example pregnancy.

That provision under the law, as the study points out, in North Carolina accounts for less than 1% of the Medicaid expenditures.

So the 99% argument is really a circular argument. If you look only at the population which doesn’t qualifiy for normal Medicaid coverage but qualify for “emergency Medicaid” it really is no suprise that virtually all who receive “emergency Medicaid” covarage fall within that group you are actually studying.

Now if Dennis wants to argue that North Carolina should not have spent a fraction of less than 1% on those who are in the country unlawfully or for legal immigrants who have lived in the United States for less than 5 years, that would be a different question.

But keep in mind whether it would be wise not spend that relative small amount, given the fact that it is in everyone’s best economic interest that the children of those who are in the country unlawfully or of legal immigrants who have lived in the United States for less than 5 years are born healthy, given that they are U.S. citizens and eligible for Medicaid..

Of course many of you probably will disagree with me but I do remember the discussion about Planned Parenthood and abortion here a few weeks ago…..

276 Yhe Phantom August 28, 2014 at 1:56 PM

“And even as the governor was rolling out his plan to overhaul the state’s Medicaid program, Sen. Richard Burr was in Winston-Salem presenting a national innovation award to the leaders of Community Care of North Carolina, the program that manages 1.3 million of the state’s 1.8 million Medicaid patients.”

“The United States Census Bureau estimates that the population of North Carolina was 9,752,073 on July 1, 2012, a 2.3% increase since the 2010 United States Census.[3] Of the people residing in North Carolina, 58.5% were born in North Carolina, 33.1% were born in another US state, 1.0% were born in Puerto Rico, U.S. Island areas, or born abroad to American parent(s), and 7.4% were born in another country.[54] As of 2011, 49.8% of North Carolina’s population younger than age 1 were minorities (note: children born to white hispanics are counted as minority group).[55]

Race and ethnicity

Demographics of North Carolina covers the varieties of ethnic groups that reside in North Carolina, along with the relevant trends.
The state’s racial composition in the 2010 Census:[56]

· White: 68.5% (65.3% non-Hispanic white, 3.2% White Hispanic)
· Black or African American: 21.5%
· Asian American: 2.2%
· Native Hawaiian and other Pacific Islander: 0.1%
· Some other race: 4.3%
· Multiracial American: 2.2%
· Latino and Hispanic American of any race: 8.4%

– If all Latino and Hispanics were on Medicaid, that would only be 819,174 of the 1,800,000 Medicaid patients, 0.45509674 = 45.5%

Emergency care only covered 12,097 Emergency (est.) / 1,800,000 all NC Medicare patients = 0.00672097 = 0.67% = 0.7% less than 1%

277 . August 28, 2014 at 4:14 PM

Rambling drivel from it’s fantasy world.

278 anon August 28, 2014 at 4:34 PM

Fox News hates President Obama so much that they are now openly longing Russian President Vladimir Putin would just come on over and take the reins. Fox News has a long track record of flirting with Putin. The “We Hate Obama” news organization has propped him up as a contrast to Obama’s weakness (when was the last time Obama annexed a portion of Ukraine?) and of the bygone days where world leaders road horseback without a shirt on. They’ve spent less time dwelling on the fact that Putin isn’t even that great at running his own country, with numerous human rights violations under his belt, a propensity for anti-gay police crackdowns, and a stagnant economy tied almost entirely to its oil exports while many of his citizens live in poverty.

279 Invasion August 28, 2014 at 4:37 PM
280 Breaking News August 28, 2014 at 4:40 PM

For republicans who only watch fox news:

On May 1 2014 the republican led intelligence investigation concluded there was no wrong doing nor cover ups from the Obama administration over the Benghazi scandal.

Fox News NEVER reported this.

Google it.

281 Dennis August 28, 2014 at 4:42 PM

my my, see the Libtards panic and throw tantrums.

and still trying to obfuscate the actual data, but not able to prove it false.

yes, the study was limited to emergency Medicaid, not the overall Medicaid program. So what? That doesn’t make the results any less accurate.

When you stop foaming at the mouth, you can consider this: that money spent on illegal immigrants for childbirth should have instead been spent on a) US citizens, and b) on VA patients.

After all, those are the groups that actually funded Medicaid. Unlike the illegals.

282 @278 August 28, 2014 at 4:52 PM
283 Not Surprised August 28, 2014 at 5:02 PM

When asked about ISIS in Iraq and Syria President Obama said
“We don’t have a strategy yet”.

Anyone surprised?

They’ve known about and been watching ISIS for 4 years.

284 Withholding TRUTH August 28, 2014 at 5:24 PM

So many times it’s now past practice, if a government report has facts embarrassing to this administration or democrats, it gets delayed !!!!!

‘IRS Delaying Release of Data on People Leaving High-Tax States’

How embarrassing it would be for the moonbeam reelection to see proof his party is killing the state.

Must be even worse than what happened to New Jersey. In the early 2000s democrats in control went nuts on taxes, as a result over $70 billion in wealth left New Jersey between 2004 and 2008 as affluent residents who could afford to move did so.

” A national moving company found more people left New Jersey in 2010 than moved to the Garden State, at a ratio that outpaced the rest of the lower 48 states.”

285 JWB August 28, 2014 at 6:05 PM

Wow Dennis you really don’t understand the issue don’t you? Seems really typical of you to loudly claim things which clearly exceed your intellect.

Show me where I have obfuscated any data from the study? The problem is your false interpretation of the data not the data.

Yes, I agree, North Carolina could have saved less than 1% of their Medicaid expenditure, but as the authors noted would have incurred considerable more cost providing Medicaid to the children who under the US constitution are citizen of the US and are entitled to Medicare.

If you don’t like this fact gather enough support to change the Constitution but until then it is the law of the land. You can’t just pick the parts of the Constitution you actually like and disregard the ones you don’t like.

That is really sad ……

286 fox news Anti American August 28, 2014 at 6:10 PM

Well, co-host of Fox News’ The Five, Kimberly Guilfoyle, flat-out said on Tuesday that she wished we could have Russian President Vladimir Putin, or even Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, as our leader just so that we could finally get things “done right.”

Guilfoyle said, “Can I just make a special request in the magic lamp? Can we get like Netanyahu, or like Putin in for 48 hours, you know, head of the United States? I don’t know. I just want somebody to get in here and get it done right so that Americans don’t have to worry and wake up in the morning fearful of a group that’s murderous and horrific like ISIS.”

Because I guess to her what’s going on in Ukraine and Gaza isn’t at all chaotic and bloody. They’re being done the “right” way, apparently.

And I’d like to point out that this is yet another Fox News personality claiming that President Obama isn’t doing anything to deal with ISIS – as we continue to launch airstrikes (that he ordered) against the terrorist group in the northern parts of Iraq.

I’d love for her, or any of these people, to actually say what she thinks the president should be doing. Because that’s something I’m seeing a lot from Republicans. They’re out there bashing the president for his handling of ISIS, yet not specifying a single thing he’s either doing wrong or that he should be doing differently.

287 Yhe Phantom August 28, 2014 at 6:12 PM

“Leadership is a potent combination of strategy and character. But if you must be without one, be without the strategy.” Gen. Norman Schwarzkopf, Jr.

Quoted in “The Military Quotation Book” (2002) by James Charlton, p. 83

288 GOP Certain President Obama’s Taupe Suit Means He Hates America August 28, 2014 at 6:12 PM

Earlier today President Obama spoke to the press regarding unfolding developments abroad. However, the bigger issue to many Republicans was that the president wore a taupe suit. “What kind of president wears taupe?” said Speaker John Boehner (R-OH). “He should be wearing a blue suit with a white shirt and a red tie… every time. This is America after all. Why does he make visible his hatred for the greatest nation on earth.” Senator John McCain (R-AZ)

289 Rick Perry Reveals His Plan For Iraq August 28, 2014 at 6:14 PM

“My idea is three-fold — First, I would leave my post as Governor of Texas and find the nearest phone booth. Which, quite honestly, is hard to do these days due to the popularity of mobile devices. Then I would tear open my shirt revealing my true identity as Super Perry, rip off my glasses that I wear to conceal my identity, and then shout, “To infinity and away!” I would then soar across the sky over to Iraq and let ISIS know who’s boss.”

290 Gallup Poll: 71% of Tea Party Members Believe Ebola is President Obama’s Birthplace August 28, 2014 at 6:19 PM

Tea Party members have often found themselves as punch lines. Not because so many people would like to line them up and punch them, but because there is the perception that they are not that intelligent. Providing further proof of their less than optimal I.Q., Gallup has released a new poll in which they surveyed 2,400 registered Tea Party voters. The end result was that 71% of active Tea Party members believe that Ebola is the country where President Barack Obama was born.

291 Yhe Phantom August 28, 2014 at 6:24 PM

#284 Withholding TRUTH?

“For its part, the IRS claims that this data is being delayed a full year because of staff shortages – and even says the delay could be longer.”

Remember Sequester? You get what you pay for!

And all the collecting of the emails from Lerner to everybody else…67,000 documents…all instead of doing the real jobs.

292 Yhe Phantom August 28, 2014 at 6:33 PM

“my my, see the Libtards panic and throw tantrums.
and still trying to obfuscate the actual data, but not able to prove it false.’

– And the babies are US citizens, even as they emerge from the birth canal, and the other emergency patients are treated for humanitarian reasons. The numbers are very small like little baby fingers, and very inexpensive like little diapers.

Some Republicans are very frustrated that the poor are not dying in the streets they way they did in the “free market” economies of the 1800’s. Or starving like they did in Scotland and Ireland after World War II.

North Carolina Republicans do not believe in punishing the poor. They are a joyous, God fearing, merciful community…unlike people from South Carolina, like Joe Miller and Lindsey Graham.

I really wish North Carolina could have been a Union State. It was the last state to join the Confederacy, and only did so when Lincoln ordered the state to invade South Carolina.

293 Yhe Phantom August 28, 2014 at 6:45 PM

Tea Party Rally Photo Op

Opps…ticks; Is the Tea bag on his zipper?

Makes me happy!

294 furian August 28, 2014 at 7:04 PM

Why so serious wingies?

You mad?


295 @289 August 28, 2014 at 7:18 PM

That would be better than a Commander in Cleats who RETREATS to the golf course.

296 shadowblade August 28, 2014 at 7:34 PM


“Study: Emergency health care for illegal immigrants costly”

Explain how less than 1% of Medicaid’s budget is “costly.”

297 Teleprompterless August 28, 2014 at 7:58 PM

Another without a teleprompter anything is possible moment.

Between all his AHs Obama’s managed to say “We don’t have a strategy yet” Ever since he uttered that the White House and their parrots in the rodeo clown media have been trying to “clarify” what the president meant to say.

As with his previous Syria vertebral failure when he tried to blame congress for his do nothing approach, which by the way did not go unnoticed world wide and especially in the Arab world.

Arab cartoonists had a field day.

Saudi Arabia made plain their displeasure with obama.

Low information voters won’t have a clue on this one,
ISIS has vowed to destroy the Kaaba in Mecca.

298 Obama followers remind me of a bunch of dumb sheep being led to slaughter August 28, 2014 at 8:01 PM

Barack Obama is the Worst President in History.

299 How many days until the Democrats lose the Senate? August 28, 2014 at 8:06 PM

68 Days

300 WTF August 28, 2014 at 8:13 PM



301 Dennis August 28, 2014 at 8:19 PM

@JWB first step is redefining birthright citizenship; with a phone and a pen, Obama could define it as limited to those whose mother was in the USA legally at the time of birth.

302 ....... August 28, 2014 at 8:21 PM

And rpthe dribbling liberals continue to ignore the lying being perpetrated by this administration.

So,how about those emails, little idiots! Gonna keep defending your criminal in chief? Keep kissing his ass.

And btw, I’ve never used craigslist. But the other liberal pos that lists here can’t tell the difference between fact, fiction and outright lies.

303 Fred P. August 28, 2014 at 8:26 PM

I see the angry little monkey is continuing to post his drivel!

C’mon little monkey. Make a spectacle of yourself again. We haven’t laughed so hard at your sorry a$$ since the last time you posted.

Angry? No, I don’t think we’re angry. It’s just that we haven’t had so much fun at one person’s expense since you last drooled your way onto the computer.


304 Phil August 28, 2014 at 8:27 PM

Woah……looks like the monkey’s gonna tip over..

305 Mark August 28, 2014 at 8:32 PM

I hope the GOP does reduce the size and scope of the federal government. TODAY, it’s overspending by 42% and jeopardizing the future not just of our children and grandchildren, but our great grandchildren and EVERY social program. 12% of our federal budget is devoted JUST to paying interest on the debt and is our FORTH largest expenditure?

306 Yhe Phantom August 28, 2014 at 8:39 PM

If Democrats win both houses, there will not be anything left to run on in 2016. Prosperity will just be given to the Republicans for no good reason.

Hillary needs a series of social and economic problems to run on.

We need to throw the election, let the Republicans crash some humanitarian programs, and cause some economic crises in the next 18 months.

Then we get the run of the store for eight more!

Chess not checkers!

307 Next Year August 28, 2014 at 8:45 PM

As ISSI get stronger and richer by $2 Million per day from oil sales, what happens when they go after Saudi Arabia?

308 shadowblade August 28, 2014 at 9:05 PM


“first step is redefining birthright citizenship; with a phone and a pen, Obama could define it as limited to those whose mother was in the USA legally at the time of birth.”

Monday, May 28, 2007

Recognize that date? That’s when the article you presented was written.

309 furian August 28, 2014 at 9:20 PM

I knew you little wingies were angry little balls of fluff.

Way to prove my point.

All too easy.


310 JWB August 28, 2014 at 10:01 PM

@ Dennis #301

The sad thing is that I’m not sure that you are kidding……

311 Dennis August 28, 2014 at 10:14 PM

Birthright Citizenship — A Fundamental Misunderstanding of the 14th Amendment
By Hans A. von Spakovsky

Published January 14, 2011

What’s the citizenship status of the children of illegal aliens? That question has spurred quite a debate over the 14th Amendment lately, with the news that several states, including Pennsylvania, Arizona, Oklahoma, Georgia and South Carolina, may launch efforts to deny automatic citizenship to such children.

Critics claim that anyone born in the United States is automatically a U.S. citizen, even if their parents are here illegally. But that ignores the text and legislative history of the 14th Amendment, which was ratified in 1868 to extend citizenship to freed slaves and their children.

The 14th Amendment doesn’t say that all persons born in the U.S. are citizens. It says that “[a]ll persons born or naturalized in the United States and subject to the jurisdiction thereof” are citizens. That second, critical, conditional phrase is conveniently ignored or misinterpreted by advocates of “birthright” citizenship.

Critics erroneously believe that anyone present in the United States has “subjected” himself “to the jurisdiction” of the United States, which would extend citizenship to the children of tourists, diplomats, and illegal aliens alike.

But that is not what that qualifying phrase means. Its original meaning refers to the political allegiance of an individual and the jurisdiction that a foreign government has over that individual. The fact that a tourist or illegal alien is subject to our laws and our courts if they violate our laws does not place them within the political “jurisdiction” of the United States as that phrase was defined by the framers of the 14th Amendment.

This amendment’s language was derived from the 1866 Civil Rights Act, which provided that “[a]ll persons born in the United States, and not subject to any foreign power” would be considered citizens. Sen. Lyman Trumbull, a key figure in the adoption of the 14th Amendment, said that “subject to the jurisdiction” of the U.S. included not owing allegiance to any other country.

As John Eastman, former Dean of the Chapman School of Law, has said, many do not seem to understand “the distinction between partial, territorial jurisdiction, which subjects all who are present within the territory of a sovereign to the jurisdiction of that sovereign’s laws, and complete political jurisdiction, which requires allegiance to the sovereign as well.”

In the famous Slaughter-House cases of 1872, the Supreme Court stated that this qualifying phrase was intended to exclude “children of ministers, consuls, and citizens or subjects of foreign States born within the United States.” This was confirmed in 1884 in another case, Elk vs. Wilkins, when citizenship was denied to an American Indian because he “owed immediate allegiance to” his tribe and not the United States.

American Indians and their children did not become citizens until Congress passed the Indian Citizenship Act of 1924. There would have been no need to pass such legislation if the 14th Amendment extended citizenship to every person born in America, no matter what the circumstances of their birth, and no matter who their parents are.

Even in U.S. v. Wong Kim Ark, the 1898 case most often cited by “birthright” supporters due to its overbroad language, the Court only held that a child born of lawful, permanent residents was a U.S. citizen. That is a far cry from saying that a child born of individuals who are here illegally must be considered a U.S. citizen.

Of course, the judges in that case were strongly influenced by the fact that there were discriminatory laws in place at that time that restricted Chinese immigration, a situation that does not exist today. The Court’s interpretation of the 14th Amendment as extending to the children of legal, noncitizens was incorrect, according to the text and legislative history of the amendment. But even under that holding, citizenship was not extended to the children of illegal aliens – only permanent, legal residents.

It is just plain wrong to claim that the children born of parents temporarily in the country as students or tourists are automatically U.S. citizens: They do not meet the 14th Amendment’s jurisdictional allegiance obligations. They are, in fact, subject to the political jurisdiction (and allegiance) of the country of their parents. The same applies to the children of illegal aliens because children born in the United States to foreign citizens are citizens of their parents’ home country.

Federal law offers them no help either. U.S. immigration law (8 U.S.C. § 1401) simply repeats the language of the 14th Amendment, including the phrase “subject to the jurisdiction thereof.” The State Department has erroneously interpreted that statute to provide passports to anyone born in the United States, regardless of whether their parents are here illegally and regardless of whether the applicant meets the requirement of being “subject to the jurisdiction” of the U.S.

Accordingly, birthright citizenship has been implemented by executive fiat, not because it is required by federal law or the Constitution.

We are only one of a very small number of countries that provides birthright citizenship, and we do so based not upon the requirements of federal law or the Constitution, but based upon an erroneous executive interpretation.

Congress should clarify the law according to the original meaning of the 14th Amendment and reverse this practice.

Hans A. von Spakovsky is a Senior Legal Fellow at the Heritage Foundation and a former Justice Department official.

312 Sand Trap August 28, 2014 at 11:05 PM

Those jayvees are at it again, since hostage trading worked with obama all they have to do is up the hostage quantity and prove they’re willing to kill to get their way.

‘Hours after shocking world with desert execution of 300 Syrian soldiers, ISIS parade captured Kurds dressed in Guantanamo-style boiler suits and promise to kill them all unless USA pulls out of Iraq’

Tell us again how Western values, thinking. “strategy” and obama’s fantasy concept of how the world works, is going to be effective against the jayvees he so flippantly dismissed?

Ah-well, can still drill thru vitrified sand after the radiation dies down to get the oil.

313 Marianne August 28, 2014 at 11:24 PM

I don’t trust anything published in wikipedia.

314 Dennis August 29, 2014 at 12:59 AM

here’s the way to cure the illegal immigration policy problems, and welfare too:

1) birthright citizenship is limited to those whose mothers were in the USA legally at the time of birth
2) no dual citizenship: to be a citizen of the USA, you must renounce citizenship – and thus allegiance – to all other countries
3) Rights are for everybody, but entitlements and benefits should be provided for citizens only
4) anyone in civil government knowingly providing false documentation or entitlements to illegals should be charged with a felony
5) maximum stay in the USA – on work or student visas – should be limited to a total of 2 years.

315 JWB August 29, 2014 at 8:07 AM

Oh Dennis #31 let’s see;

In January 2011 “Pennsylvania, Arizona, Oklahoma, Georgia and South Carolina, may launch efforts to deny automatic citizenship to such children”

Now let’s move to August 2014. Which state of these or any other has launched efforts to deny automatic citzienship to childern born to undocumented mothers?

Thant’s correct, none. So all that brabble which impresses you so much is in realiyt nothing more than Spankys wet dream.

316 It's 'Meme' is that you Ma? August 29, 2014 at 12:00 PM

Yes the empty suit is still empty…

“Nothing to see here folks – keep moving!”

The incompetence even within the lies inside the lies belies the truth about the change “you can believe in”…

The whole truth is the subtext within “the change you can believe in”…

A paradigm shift in a leading from behind package…

The joke has been on “me” and “you” all along…

A transformational shift of the “American Spirit” into a “broken spirit” has been the goal…

“Big Pharm.” is your new best friend…Doctor Feel-good is the doctor they really want you to keep…that’s exactly what the change was all about…

Divide US, kick US when we’re down, drug US, sell US out to the highest bidder and get US to buy in to it…

And many of US did!

Too many!


317 Dennis August 29, 2014 at 12:44 PM

@#315 we are all waiting on November … time to get the Dems out of office. They pander to the illegals, prefer them to the American Citizens.

One more item:
6) Any NATURALIZED citizen convicted of a violent felony forfeits that citizenship.

318 Dennis August 29, 2014 at 12:49 PM

“Thant’s correct, none. So all that brabble which impresses you so much is in realiyt nothing more than Spankys wet dream.”

You really didn’t read the item, did you? It explains citizenship in terms of the Constitution, and makes it clear that Congress can set the rules for granting and revoking citizenship.

A congress that acts according to Constitutional directives … what a concept!

November, November, hurry up and get here.

319 @317 dennise August 29, 2014 at 1:01 PM

Last time that happened we had an epic failure on many levels that we are still paying for. I can’t think of a faster way to run the country into ruin If the gop wins this soon after their last disaster aka bush, buy gold and gems

320 JWB August 29, 2014 at 1:54 PM

Yep Dennis you find this all in the Constitution? Clearly you must have the TeaBagger’s editon?

321 Dennis August 29, 2014 at 2:00 PM

@#319 riiiiiiigggghhhhttttttttt

322 Dennis August 29, 2014 at 2:00 PM

FBI national domestic threat assessment omits Islamist terrorism

The FBI’s most recent national threat assessment for domestic terrorism makes no reference to Islamist terror threats, despite last year’s Boston Marathon bombing and the 2009 Fort Hood shooting—both carried out by radical Muslim Americans.

Instead, the internal FBI intelligence report concluded in its 2013 assessment published this month that the threat to U.S. internal security from extremists is limited to attacks and activities by eight types of domestic extremist movements—none motivated by radical Islam.

They include anti-government militia groups and white supremacy extremists, along with “sovereign citizen” nationalists, and anarchists. Other domestic threat groups outlined by the FBI assessment include violent animal rights and environmentalist extremists, black separatists, anti- and pro-abortion activists, and Puerto Rican nationalists.

323 Dennis August 29, 2014 at 2:00 PM

Spy ring mastermind John Walker reportedly dies in prison

Published August 29, 2014

The mastermind behind one of America’s most damaging spy rings has reportedly died.

John A. Walker Jr., 77, was sentenced in 1986 to two life terms plus 10 years for selling U.S. secrets to the Soviets as a cryptologist in the Navy and after he retired. He died Thursday in a federal prison in North Carolina, according to prison officials, less than nine months away from his expected release due to federal parole guidelines at the time, reports.

Walker eventually enlisted his brother Arthur, his son Michael and a Navy friend, Jerry Whitworth, into one of the biggest security breaches in the nation’s history.

Robert Hunter, the FBI agent who arrested Walker, characterized him as one of the most treacherous men he’d ever met.

“I think the man was pure evil,” Hunter told

Walker’s foray into espionage began in 1967 while working at what’s now the Norfolk Naval Station, where he stole and later sold “key cards” to the Soviet Union, allowing its intelligence officers to unlock more than 1 million top-secret and classified messages.

Walker agreed to plead guilty as part of a deal with prosecutors to obtain a lighter sentence for his son.

Former Navy Seaman Michael L. Walker served 15 years in prison and was released in 2000.

The brother, retired Navy lieutenant commander Arthur Walker, died at the Butner hospital in July.

The fourth member of the spy ring, Ex- Navy Chief Petty Officer Jerry A. Whitworth was convicted in 1986 and later sentenced to a total of 365 years. A database of federal inmates shows that Whitworth, now 75, is incarcerated at the Federal Penitentiary in Atwater, California.

324 Dennis August 29, 2014 at 2:02 PM

Walker was sentenced to2 life terms plus 10 years (in 1986) … and he was due to be released in 9 months?

Sounds like a good reason for capital punishment.

325 Dennis August 29, 2014 at 2:44 PM

@JWB “Yep Dennis you find this all in the Constitution?” uhhh get clue, dimwit. The Constitution says that Congress shall determine requirements for citizenship.

Whatsa mattuh, JWB, can’t get your head out long enough for a rational analysis? You decide issues based solely on what *I* support, and your automatic rejection?

Good thing I haven’t mentioned the Sun rising in the East … you’d waste days arguing that it rises in the West.

1) birthright citizenship is limited to those whose mothers were in the USA legally at the time of birth
2) no dual citizenship: to be a citizen of the USA, you must renounce citizenship – and thus allegiance – to all other countries
3) Rights are for everybody, but entitlements and benefits should be provided for citizens only
4) anyone in civil government knowingly providing false documentation or entitlements to illegals should be charged with a felony
5) maximum stay in the USA – on work or student visas – should be limited to a total of 2 years.
6) Any NATURALIZED citizen convicted of a violent felony forfeits that citizenship

Now tell us, JWB/ShallowBrain/PhanDumb, which of those six items is “unconstitutional”, ie. Congress couldn’t enact legislation including it?

I’d like to point out that France already does #6 (ever since the Muslim riots in Paris).

326 Elwood August 29, 2014 at 2:48 PM

@ Dennis #311

Not to worry!

The imperial Arab will resolve the issue with a stroke of his omnipotent pen.

327 Marianne August 29, 2014 at 2:58 PM

Useless legislation, of course the unorthodoxed local politicians would take the blame. Way to go Mark!

328 JWB August 29, 2014 at 3:15 PM

Oh Dennis

Just for starters you want citizenship revoked for naturalized citizens convicted of a violent felony (6) but when this person became a naturalized citizen you demanded that this person renounced his former citizenship (2)?

So Einstein what are you going to do with this person now? Of course because he or she has no citizenship you will grant that person political asylum….

329 Umpire August 29, 2014 at 4:00 PM

Game, set and match JWB

330 Dennis August 29, 2014 at 4:26 PM

@JWB so what? How many violent criminals do you know that denounced their citizenship elsewhere to become naturalized US citizens? none? I guess your “whatif” is, as usual, idiotic.

Deport the person to his/her country of origin, and let them decide whether to give him back his original citizenship. It isn’t our problem.

And PS who (except you) would consider doing anything as insane as granting “political asylum” to someone we’ve judged a violent felon here, stripped of his naturalized citizenship here, and deported?

Why would anyone do anything that insane?

I guess you just want to complain, because I posted it.

So far, you are batting 0.00000000000 (even with umpire licking your … uh … boots).

331 Yhe Phantom August 29, 2014 at 4:32 PM

Mark, With corrections:

“I hope the GOP does reduce the size and scope of the federal government. TODAY, it’s overspending by 42% [actually 26%] and jeopardizing the future not just of our children and grandchildren, but our great grandchildren and EVERY social program. 12% [actually 6%] of our federal budget is devoted JUST to paying interest on the debt and is our FORTH [actually SIXTH] largest expenditure?”

– Borrowing money to improve the world does not jeopardize the future, it produces it. Remember borrowing money to buy your car or you home?

You need to be more skeptical, like Marianne who doesn’t trust Good for Marianne.

332 The Handygirl August 29, 2014 at 5:16 PM

Liberalism is a mental disorder easily treated with Draino.

333 JWB August 29, 2014 at 5:20 PM

Dennis as usual being dense……

“How many violent criminals do you know that denounced their citizenship elsewhere to become naturalized US citizens? none? I guess your “whatif” is, as usual, idiotic”

Dennis do you even know immigration law or do you just pretend? Do you really think a convicted violent felon can now become a naturalized US citizen?.

Let me try to make it as an example that even you should be able to follow:

Let’s say Lars a citizen of Sweden falls in love with Mary a US citizien. They deceide that they want to marry and move to the US. Lars becomes a naturalized citizen of the US and according to your demands renounces his Swedish citzenship.

Many years later now Lars becomes convicted of a violent felony.According to you, he should now be stripped of his US citizenship and deported. To where do you want to deport Lars? To Sweden? Why would Sweden want a convicted violent felon who is not a Swedish citizen?
Do you suggest that the US State Deparment issues him a Swedish pasport?

334 Dennis August 29, 2014 at 5:44 PM

@JWB here’s a clue: I don’t give rat’s ass what happens to Lars. Or your unicorn. Both are extreme distortions of the reality of immigration and citizenship.

Since this bizarre exception appears to be your only complaint, can we assume you support and approve the 6 clarifications of citizenship law (NOT immigration law), which I posted?

PS there is already precedent for stripping citizenship and deportation. Upheld by SCOTUS, too. (Fleming v Nestor).

So do you support these 6 clarifications (loophole closing) on citizenship law?

335 Yhe Phantom August 29, 2014 at 6:07 PM

Republicans are funny.

How funny are they?

They are so funny because they cry out for fiscal responsibility, reducing the deficit, and paying off the national debt, but if they get elected it’s all about “Hey Honey, get your glad rags on! We’re going to Vegas!

First let’s get a war started, shut off some welfare, and quit any DOJ work on the financial sector.

Then everything blows out of control and they throw the next election so they can try to blame the Democrats.

We fix it and they start all over again.


336 Yhe Phantom August 29, 2014 at 6:29 PM

Media Matters posted the video of a hard-to-watch Fox segment in which co-host Greg Gutfeld launched an unhinged tirade about the ISIS threat: “Obama should get his head out of his golf bag or get out of town….. If our president isn’t up to it, then find someone who is. Maybe it’s better if he stays on the course, for good.” (Gutfeld didn’t mention the 93 airstrikes Obama ordered on ISIS targets over the last two weeks.)

Noting British plans to address citizens who leave the U.K. to become terrorists, Gutfeld then asked Fox’s Kimberly Guilfoyle about whether measures can be implemented “without so-called violating their civil liberties.” Guilfoyle responded:

“Guess what, I don’t care. And in fact, I hope we violate a lot of their civil liberties. […]

“I mean, can I just make a special request in the magic lamp? Can we get like Netanyahu and like Putin in for 48 hours, you know, head of the United States? I don’t know. I just want somebody to get in here and get it done right.”

…But Guilfoyle’s appeal seems predicated on some bizarre assumptions. The first is the notion that a bold, get-tough leader – apparently someone in the mold of Netanyahu or Putin – could simply use military force, deploy troops, and wipe out ISIS … somehow. This shouldn’t be necessary, but it might be worth noting that counter-terrorism and a coherent national-security policy doesn’t work this way. It’s not like a U.S. president could wake up, decide to eliminate ISIS, make an order, and watch it happen.

– 15. A favorite example of defective Republican thinking is in the area of foreign relations. Diplomacy in foreign relations is complex, dynamic, and sophisticated. This is a complex subject requiring imagination, good information (intelligence), deep knowledge, and a willingness to abandon archaic clichés. Republicans are not proficient in such processes…their solution is to work the problem until you can find somebody to attack or threaten to attack…preferably an under-armed dictator.

337 ..... August 29, 2014 at 8:05 PM

And the Libs still ignore this administration’s transgressions. They’re as bad as obozo – can’t trust any of them.

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