Water Cooler – Open Borders & Terrorists

August 13, 2014 12:00 pm · 80 comments

The “Water Cooler” is a feature on Claycord.com where we ask you a question or provide a topic, and you talk about it!

The “Water Cooler” will be up Monday-Friday at noon!

Today’s question:

Watch the video below, and then discuss whether or not the U.S. is doing enough to patrol our borders to make sure terrorists don’t come into our Country.

Talk about it….

1 J.L.G. August 13, 2014 at 12:01 PM

Stunt period

2 anonanonagain August 13, 2014 at 12:06 PM

I don’t even have to watch the video to know that the US is not doing enough to keep our country safe. If a deranged woman can go through airport security and hop a flight to LA. then we know that our borders are porous……

3 Justin August 13, 2014 at 12:10 PM

* Yawn *

We’d all have been better off if the US used lethal force on O’Keefe.

4 anon August 13, 2014 at 12:14 PM

The system is broken

5 TinFoiler August 13, 2014 at 12:19 PM

Yep, I’m with poster 2.
Not a DAMN thing is being done as this is part of “their” plan for the Next FALSE FLAG in this Country.
I’ve been the “conspiracy theorist” while the rest of you have your heads in the sand. Hopefully it won’t be in the sand after the next 9/11 happens, (it will be a false flag BTW).
PS: government has become Experts at the whole “we are so weak, we got caught with our pants down” baloney. Interesting how that works – Try not paying taxes and see how long it takes them to deal with you.
Yeah, that’s what I thought.

6 Archie August 13, 2014 at 12:20 PM

Guess not, as they are living in your neighborhoods planning their next escapade.

7 inmotion August 13, 2014 at 12:23 PM

O’Keefe? Really Mayor.

8 @Justin August 13, 2014 at 12:25 PM

You’re right, we should just pretend everything is working fine at the border. Sounds like you have some really fantastic anger/violence issues too.

9 RedFoxRun August 13, 2014 at 12:50 PM

@2 anonanonagain August 13, 2014 at 12:06 PM

Marilyn Hartman is decidedly not
deranged. She is a self-professed
“child of the 60s.” If you didn’t live
thru the 1960s, you probably don’t
know all of what that entails. To
put it succinctly, it means that if you
can’t raise funds, raise hell instead.
Those who consider her mentally ill
would probably have thought the same
of Joan of Arc.

Americans should be taking care of
Americans first. American immigration
policy is a joke. The whole world
knows it and are taking advantage of it,
terrorists included.

10 SKS August 13, 2014 at 12:53 PM

No one has to watch that damn video to know that the Obama administration is ignoring existing laws to prevent illegal immigrants across the border.

ENFORCE THE LAW.

11 I to do not need to look August 13, 2014 at 12:59 PM

at the video.

Illegals have more rights and privileges than native born citizens.

That is wrong on any and all levels.

The bleeding hearts are one of America’s worst enemy’s. I’d rather keep the illegals and deport the bleeding hearts.

Illegal is illegal and that’s where the conversation ends. Send them back or lock them up until our Marine is released.

I am damn tired of America being such a wimp. Its time to kick ass and take names. (backwards on purpose)

12 KJ August 13, 2014 at 1:08 PM

The US has messed with the countries of Latin America for decades (or should I say a century) and then has the audacity to complain with the people we impoverished migrate hoping to find a means to survive. Many of us knew NAFTA, the treaty Clinton signed, was going to do horrible things to the economies south of our border, and it did.

By the way, The Economist reported in February 2014: “America is expelling illegal immigrants at nine times the rate of 20 years ago; nearly 2m so far under Barack Obama, easily outpacing any previous president.”

Personally, as far as terrorist threats, I’m more concerned about our own indigenous red-necked-yahoo vigilantes, or our police who are increasingly acting like Star Wars Imperial Storm Troopers.

13 Just look around.... August 13, 2014 at 1:38 PM

It’s pretty obvious we are now being treated like “guests” in our own country. When the citizens have to take the law in their own hands to protect their land because the elected officials won’t, it’s only a matter of time until complete meltdown.

Get out while you can.

14 Pyrrhus August 13, 2014 at 1:40 PM

@11 Yes, because Conservatives have been so tough on illegals. The talking heads can spout all the rhetoric they want, the fact remains that the truth is they know that the farmers association and other industries would collapse without the illegals. If they had to pay legal workers you would see prices sky rocket and people like you would be complaining about it.

Here’s another fact that you’re gonna hate. Obama’s administration has deported more illegals than any other president despite what idiot Dobbs says. http://www.politifact.com/punditfact/statements/2014/jul/15/lou-dobbs/lou-dobbs-obama-administration-manipulated-deporta/

With that said, there needs to be reform to the immigration process. The entire process takes too long and there is too much red tape. I don’t understand how it takes years just to hear back if you can get in or not. Also, if we want to be tough on illegals we need to be tough on those that hire illegal immigrants. If an illegal immigrant can’t get a job and can’t make money here then there is no point for them to be here.

None of this is going to happen. Nobody is willing to pay more for goods. We’ll just continue with the anti illegal rhetoric, do a few big busts, build some useless fences,and pat ourselves on the back.

15 Idiocracy August 13, 2014 at 1:56 PM

I bet any money it will still be unsecure by 2016

16 RealityCheck August 13, 2014 at 1:59 PM

One day, probably not too far off, someone is just gonna waltz across the U.S.-Mexico border, hop into a van, make it up to a nice populated area in So Cal, and detonate a dirty bomb.

No passport to worry about, no airport security issues, nothing at all to stop them.

Only then, I fear, will the idiots in charge do anything about the border problems.

17 Sooth Sayer August 13, 2014 at 2:07 PM

This is not about terrorism it’s about racism. It’s just as easy for a terrorist to walk across the border from Canada why are these wing nuts not making videos there?

We have thousands of miles of land borders, hundreds of international air and seaports, thousands of miles of coast. You can’t make it all impenetrable and wasting money in any politically driven attempt to do so is playing right into the hands of the terrorists…because it would mean less money for truly effective counter terror measures.

18 Daniel Shays August 13, 2014 at 2:09 PM

#15. The only thing they will do about it is blame Bush and the Republicans.

19 Mark August 13, 2014 at 2:23 PM

Just give out the Calif driver license as they cross over and thin the line at the DMV. Hand out the directions to monument blvd free services and be done with it.

20 ClayDen August 13, 2014 at 2:23 PM

If we can’t (or won’t) control our borders, we are no longer a sovereign country. It’s not just poor people trying to get in for a better life, it’s terrorists and we will pay the price.

Thanks to O’Keefe for helping to raise awareness on this important issue.

@Sooth Sayer
Sure, you can cross the border from Canada easily too, but it is much harder to get into Canada than into Mexico, so the problem is much smaller. Also, the Canadian Government is much more effective at policing who gets into their country than Mexico is.

21 Fritzhugh Ludlow August 13, 2014 at 2:24 PM

In 1951 General McArthur bombed the Southern Half of the Bridges between Korea and China to keep the illegals out. He was fired by a liberal democrat president before He could lay down a permanet barrier of radioactive waste accross the border, that would kill all that tried to cross. The weakness of all following presidents to do this at our own Borders has caused the present day invasion.

22 Always Right August 13, 2014 at 2:33 PM

Great little documentary by James OKeefe.

The Obama fans on Claycord will just deny or try to change the subject, but the video shows what is really happening on the ground.

23 @Always Right August 13, 2014 at 3:02 PM

So what’s your solution? Be specific.

24 LOL! August 13, 2014 at 3:12 PM

Made it about 2 minutes in before shutting it off. The border and immigration issue is a huge complex system of human misery and ugly social entitlement. Like every problem, your typical Claycordian enjoys simplifying it down to sound bites and childish logic. Choose your side, left or right, and start flinging uneducated nonsense at each other. 90% of you don’t have any connection to what is happening to the border or suffer from the effects of it, and likely never will. BTW, no, making eye contact with the illegal you hired to mow your lawn doesn’t make you an expert on the subject.

I’ll just say this: James O’ Keefe crossing a muddy puddle in a Bin Laden mask does not come anywhere close to summing up the real problems at our borders. Part of what fuels the immigration problem on this side of the border, however, is that some of you fall for the propaganda of this sort of stunt every time.

25 Sooth Sayer August 13, 2014 at 3:13 PM

@ClayDen

if you think a terrorist is going to make a dirty bomb, get on a cargo ship to Guatemala, lug the thing through the jungle, across Mexico to the Rio Grande so he can blow up an American city you are clueless.

The real risk to our security are our container ports. That bomb is much more likely to be loaded into a container somewhere in the world bound for a port like Oakland or Los Angeles where it will be detonated. If you want to spend $100bn securing our borders from people walking across them, just know that that is money that will be taken from port security, intelligence gathering abroad and those sorts of things…ya know, the real threats. But hey, if we do close the borders to terrorists, no Mexicans will get in either! fringe benefit!!!

26 Anon August 13, 2014 at 3:29 PM

Looks reality tv. Fake.

27 Anon August 13, 2014 at 3:30 PM

Damn had only bush completed one thing in 8 years. And why didn’t he complete the fence?

28 ClayDen August 13, 2014 at 3:46 PM

@Sooth Sayer

I agree that our ports are a significant vulnerability, and would be much more likely to be the entry point for a dirty bomb. However, there are other threats that don’t require getting something big across the border. People can come across the border and create real problems with stuff they can carry or get once they get here (like box cutters, chemical weapons……..). We probably need to beef up the Coast Guard strength too.

Also, it is not a zero sum game. Just because you spend more money on border security doesn’t mean you need to spend less on port security, intelligence gathering and other necessary anti-terrorism actions. It is a matter of priorities. We are at war and the Commander in Chief is not doing his job, along with the lack of proper support of the Congress. The most important duty of the President is to protect the country, and the current President (and his willing accomplices in the Congress) are not doing their job. All of the social programs in the world are irrelevant if you don’t have a country. It’s not a matter of having enough money, it’s a matter of priorities and National will.

You are the clueless one.

29 Dorothy August 13, 2014 at 3:55 PM

Okay, that is about one boarder. We have two and wannabe terrorist seem to prefer the 2nd. Seems like real terrorist can have near perfect documentation made for them so they wouldn’t have to get their feet wet crossing muddy waters.

30 JT August 13, 2014 at 4:02 PM

I’ll bet that bridge wasn’t put up since Obama became President, and I’m sure that river wasn’t any more protected under earlier presidents.

To provide the protection called for by O’Keefe, we would need an armed Border Patrol Agent about every 100 yards. According to the Border Patrol website (cbp.gov), the US-Mexico border is 1,933 miles long, and the US-Canada border is 3,987 miles, not counting the Canada-Alaska border. The Border Patrol is also responsible for the coast of Florida and Puerto Rico, another ~2,000 miles.

In 2013, the Border Patrol had 21,391 agents and a budget of $3,466,880,000. (In 2008, the Border Patrol has 17,391 agents and a budget of $2,245,261,000.) In 2013, under Obama, the Border Patrol made 21,391 apprehensions; in 2008, under Bush, they made 17,499. The peak year for apprehensions was 2000, under Clinton, with 1,676,438.

To station an armed agent every 100 yards along ~7,900 miles of border would require 139,392 agents. The average cost of an agent in 2013 was $162,000 per year (budget/#agents). To have 139,392 agents, the budget would have to increase to $22,591,526,200. (That’s $22.6B/year). Do you really think Congress would agree to increasing the annual cost of the Border Patrol from $3.5B/yr to $22.6B/yr, when approximately half are screaming spending is too high?

31 Sooth Sayer August 13, 2014 at 4:06 PM

@ClayDen, it is IMPOSSIBLE to secure the border. IMPOSSIBLE. The myth that is being perpetuated by Fox News that this is a failing of our government, is just that, a myth. George W. Bush spent billions on the latest military grade technology for listening devices, motion detectors and the like and it didn’t work. It can’t work. It will never work.

And again, if Al Qaeda or ISIS or any other group wants to infiltrate an American city with a terrorist or a terrorist cell, it is far easier to do it via the internet and radicalize people already living here. U.S. citizens. That’s what they did in Britain when the London buses and underground were bombed.

You can waste all the money you want putting the National Guard on the border, but please don’t pretend it has anything to do with protecting us or making us safer. Its about politics, optics, and keeping out brown children.

Ask ANYONE who has the faintest clue about security if we should spend a dime on the southern border and they will tell you NO. there are 100 much easier and more logical ways for a foreign terror group to attack us than by coming through Mexico. We have some major vulnerabilities and any money we take away from real security programs to waste on this political farce puts us at greater risk.

32 Sooth Sayer August 13, 2014 at 4:11 PM

Oh and it is a zero sum game. All public dollars are fungible, especially dollars appropriated in this Congress. If you want to spend a new dollar, Republicans in Congress want to see what you are going to cut by a dollar. If you spend billions on physical border infrastructure, you will have to cut billions from intelligence gathering and other effective counter terrorism programs.

33 Always Right August 13, 2014 at 4:18 PM

The solution? Finish the fence FIRST !

Then we can work out the details to legalize most of those already here.

I would stipulate, though, that no one should be legalized (receive a long term or permanent visa) without being able to A) speak English B) have no criminal record C) pass a test for communicable diseases and drugs.

Going forward, we need to get very tough on those overstaying visas – like some jail time and lifetime denial of future entry.

Problem solved.

34 The Numbers Guy August 13, 2014 at 4:31 PM

Number of Americans murdered by foreign terrorists crossing the border from Mexico = 0

Number of Americans killed every year by guns including little children in their classrooms, people in movie theaters, restaurants, offices, college campuses and even a couple of Presidents = about 11,000 on average.

Republicans in Congress who want more done to protect us from imaginary foreign terrorists in Tijuana = all of them

Republicans in Congress who want to protect us from guns= none of them

35 Anon August 13, 2014 at 4:37 PM

Let. Mexico become a State and pay taxes

36 @ Annon August 13, 2014 at 4:50 PM

“Damn had only bush completed one thing in 8 years. And why didn’t he complete the fence?”

The Congress then did not believe the boarder was a problem, much as it does now. That’s why nothing happens. Barry signs executive orders breaking his oath of office and the laws of the land and even with all that, Congress has done nothing and all of our boarders are wide open. North, south east and west, wherever they can get in the illegals are invading and getting on welfare with benefits while paying no taxes. We have on Marine in jail in Mexico and there he rots while illegals are gaining prosperity and voting power in the US.

Right or Left, congress does nothing for the people, only themselves, and yet they get re elected every time.

Blame who you want, make any excuse you want, those of you who voted this sitting government into office are responsible for the actions of said government.

37 @ The Numbers Guy August 13, 2014 at 4:53 PM

A perfect example of someone who believes all the propaganda and never really looks into verifiable facts.

You can blame anyone you want, the real problem is yourself.

38 Tree Farm August 13, 2014 at 5:14 PM

@ Numbers Guy #34

Nice spin on the numbers there. Your numbers include gun deaths by suicide. Nice job trying to make it look like thousands of children are killed in classrooms every year…..

39 jon smith August 13, 2014 at 5:14 PM

You are so RIGHT on “The number guy.”
It comes down to money!!!!

40 General de Gaulle August 13, 2014 at 5:30 PM

We must build this Maginot Line to protect us from the enemy at our doorstep . Build it long and high. It’s the only thing that can protect us from certain disaster! Spare no expense!

41 The Education Guy August 13, 2014 at 5:41 PM

I think we need to spend billions more on public education in order to teach the knuckle draggers the difference between a border and a boarder.

2 cents

42 @Pyrrhus August 13, 2014 at 5:56 PM

“For the last few years, the Obama Administration has claimed that it’s deporting a record number of illegal aliens. But, the Administration is adding numbers to its overall deportation statistics that have not been historically included in the total number of annual deportations. Here’s a look at how the Obama Administration has artificially inflated the number of deportations.”

https://www.numbersusa.com/content/news/february-12-2013/how-obama-administration-inflates-deportation-statistics.html

43 Atticus Thraxx August 13, 2014 at 6:00 PM

Practically speaking you can’t secure our borders. If secure is an absolute term. When you consider the enormity of protecting the US from terror attacks both from internal and external threats you can almost understand the NSA’s Executive Branch ordered malfeasance. Almost.

44 J.L.G. August 13, 2014 at 6:46 PM

Wow can we say Xenophobia. Do these people know we have an immigration bill in the Senate that would go a long way to solving a lot of the immigration problems. The house does not want to deal with it.
The extreme right wing wants to deport millions of people? How do they want to do that paint an A for Alien on them and send them back in box cars. I believe a good deal of the people that are upset really don’t want to fix the problems as they won’t be able to fixate their hate and need to find something else to divide us

45 Just me August 13, 2014 at 7:11 PM

The fence thing is really hysterical, only Neanderthals could believe it to be the solution. Take a look at Europe, no fences there just immigration policies in place that allow people from “poor” countries to work abroad, pay taxes and return home/ renew their visas as required. They are able to provide for their families and quite frankly, none of them want to live in Switzerland, Germany etc. House cleaners, farm workers, laborers etc are not given an option to apply for a “visa” as they can not qualify under any of the current requirements. And to say that they are taking jobs from American citizens is laughable, the obvious truth is that those on welfare prefer it there, they get paid more from the government than they would get cutting someone’s lawn.
FYI- illegal immigrants DO NOT qualify for any government help- if you were ever unfortunate enough to have to apply to receive any of it you would know that proof of legal residency is required :)

46 Always Right August 13, 2014 at 8:09 PM

@J.L.G. – see my solution in #33. Most conservatives would go along with a plan to legalize most of those already here if the left would stop obstructing construction of adequate border fencing and would get serious about visa enforcement. Conservatives are just not going to accept a deal that puts border security as a last step. It needs to be the first step.

@Atticus Thaxx – You are correct to say we can’t achieve 100% security, but we have the technology and the resources in this country to get pretty darn close. Six Sigma.

47 Ven Xeter August 13, 2014 at 8:13 PM

James O’ Keefe is a national treasure. Years ago 60 Minutes and large newspapers reularly did investigative journalism and stings against corruption. Now that we have a completely lawless federal administration that regularly violates the constitution, our corporate media has taken a five year nap. God bless the Internet and the new breed of independent journalists.

48 Always Right August 13, 2014 at 8:31 PM

@Just Me – Comparing Europe to America is apples and oranges. Most of Europe is buffered from poor Africa by the Mediterranean Sea. It is just a bit wider than the Rio Grande, don’t ya think?

You also said “illegal immigrants DO NOT qualify for any government help.”
That is false. Results are showing many thousands of illegals were allowed to sign up for ObamaCare and are receiving it. The government is just now starting to review claims for accuracy and are shocked by the magnitude of the problem. Will any of these people who LIED on their applications be prosecuted? Will the government get paid back? No chance.

Let’s also look at EBT cards. These cards are given to households where just one person is a US citizen. They DO NOT verify the status of the household members. We have millions of illegal aliens receiving food stamp and housing benefits this way.

Oh and lets not forget public education (free), emergency room care (free).

I just wish liberals like you, who like to call conservatives “neanderthals” would pause for a minute of self reflection and listen for a change.

You might learn something.

49 milly August 13, 2014 at 9:14 PM

First ,close the border,no one allowed to cross the border from both sides.. Build fence that keeps people out…So if you want to go to Mexico,you must fly there with all the right paper work… If want to come to the States you must fly with all the correct paper work or they will not let you on the plane.

50 Just me August 13, 2014 at 9:32 PM

@Always Right

Perhaps you need to look at a map, don’t ya think? You know, to see that Europe is actually quite larger than the US?

https://www.google.com/search?q=world+map&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&hl=en&client=safari#hl=en&q=world+map+continents&facrc=_&imgrc=hGSOnQ21X41ZwM%253A%3Bundefined%3Bhttp%253A%252F%252Fwww.mapsofworld.com%252Fcontinents%252Fimages2011%252Fworld-continent-map.jpg%3Bhttp%253A%252F%252Fwww.mapsofworld.com%252Fworld-continent-map.htm%3B800%3B600

Also, any US legal resident can qualify for aid but majority of it is based on income, as shown by the said person’s tax return, which includes the number of dependents- as it is shown on the tax return. Plenty of Americans are using their welfare check to fuel their addictions, big deal if someone chooses it to provide for others who otherwise would go without.

Please back up your statements with links to actual “results” that support your claims.

I hope that this free education the illegals are receiving serves them better than it has you.
And BTW, the change IS coming, hope you’re prepared :)

51 Joe Arpaio August 13, 2014 at 9:54 PM

You know how I feel about it…..

52 J August 13, 2014 at 10:17 PM

If you’re going to talk about issues outside of Claycord, instead of the race baiting MSM clown O’keefe, where’s the discussion of the denial of 1st Amendment rights by Ferguson Mo.police of people protesting the police shooting a citizen in the back while surrendering? Oh yeah, they’re black.

53 proud of my coulture August 13, 2014 at 10:59 PM

Honestly this is vary stupid and racist mexican dont cone to be terrorist they cone to work hard n make honorable money to send money back home to mexico we americans dont know how they live we thibk they live like wr do when they dont we eat n get full n throw they rest of the food away while back in mexico they struggle to eat one piece of meat i am a proud of being mexican!

54 Marissa August 13, 2014 at 11:24 PM

The video does look like a reality show, but in reality there aren’t enough border patrols to patrol the borders.

55 Jesse August 13, 2014 at 11:31 PM

Oh, please. This has nothing to do with terrorism and everything to do with xenophobia. If it were about building a fence to keep out terrorists, people would be clamoring about building a fence along the Canadian border as well.

56 Dennis August 14, 2014 at 2:27 AM

@Jessie if the Canadian border were shoving millions of illegals into the USA, it too would get a fence :)

And for those that claim that it is employers wanting cheap labor that fuels the influx? You’re idiots. The same people who were working the drive-thru at fast food places now have been there for years. We get 10 times the illegals, but the employers aren’t providing 10 times the jobs. And that is true everywhere. The market is saturated; construction, services, etc aren’t growing at the same pace as illegal immigration.

These guys show up on Monument, spend a week starving while HOPING for CHANGE, and then they join a gang. Welcome to the real world.

Of course, for liberals who refuse to actually enforce any laws, any programs by the government will fail.

Mexico already gets over half of all visas issued annually by the USA. The number coming in illegally is at least twice that amount.

If you need a word to describe what is happening, the word is COLONIZATION of the USA by Mexico.

57 Dennis August 14, 2014 at 2:29 AM

@Jessie is that how liberals play the game? Any criticism of Obama is just ‘racism’, and any criticism of immigration is just ‘xenophibia’? You’re a one trick pony. The horse you are kicking is dead. etc.

58 .... August 14, 2014 at 7:00 AM

@Proud #53…..

Wow – you might want to learn how string basic sentences together and learn punctuation and spelling. I do know that they teach that in Mexico as well as here.

It makes it very difficult to read/understand.

59 .... August 14, 2014 at 7:07 AM

@Number Guy #34…..

So let’s see the source (ie, raw data) on which you base your claims. FBI UCR? or the Brady/VPC center?

Just the facts…..

60 .... August 14, 2014 at 7:09 AM

@Just Me…..

Again, you are a perfect example of a liberal – insult others when they don’t agree with you (ie, “Neanderthal”). Perhaps that’s why you’re not taken seriously.

Typical.

61 Reality Check August 14, 2014 at 7:34 AM

Would a fence have kept out the Boston bombers.

62 Connie Dobbs August 14, 2014 at 7:45 AM

#53 And I’m proud of you for being proud. So, you have any plans for improving the lives of the folks back home? Besides working like a pack mule and living stacked like cord wood so you can send home most of the money you earn to pay for your mom’s new house and car? Because from here it looks like those people are playing you.

63 Freeman August 14, 2014 at 8:08 AM

Mexico isn’t a race. It’s a federation. It is a nation independent of the United States with a different history, culture, customs and language.

You show your cards as a hack when you say that opposition to mass illegal influx is “racism” because it can’t be by definition.

64 James O’ Keefe is a national treasure August 14, 2014 at 8:51 AM

Some peoples ideas of what a treasure is are incredibly low.

65 NoMoreFreeRide August 14, 2014 at 9:00 AM

@Just me – You better check your facts again. Italy is drowning in illegal immigration. Each day lots of people died crossing the Mediterranean trying to cross from Africa. The Eastern European countries are being inundated from Slavic countries.Illegal immigration is a BIG problem in Europe just like here in America.

66 NoMoreFreeRide August 14, 2014 at 9:02 AM

Our schools are out of money but as soon as illegals show-up (Example: Oakland school system) they have plenty of money to school them, feed them and provide translators. That plain and clearly removes resources/money from legal children.

67 Antler August 14, 2014 at 9:26 AM

Sooth Sayer at #31 and ongoing is correct!!!

Fences as solutions? Tell it to the builders of the Great Wall. Tell it to Russia re Berlin Wall. Fences are an idiotic expenditure of tax dollars.

You want to spend alllllllll our tax money on a project that will create more jobs (and make oceanic transport much less expensive as well)? Dig a major CANAL exactly following the border dividing our country and Mexico. BOTH countries get to benefit!

Terrorists of all types are already in-house USA…..(mentioning that just by way of comfort to those of you who require all the rest of us to feel an emotional incitement for living in fear). Get some wasp and hornet spray and keep a constant patrol of your property borders, you weak-kneed victims of fear mongrels!

68 Silva August 14, 2014 at 9:58 AM

What I learned from watching this silly production is that some nut built a crazy stupid wall.

69 Yaz August 14, 2014 at 12:55 PM

Any immigrant crossing the southern border does not have the funds or connections to be a terrorist. Besides, it’s to dangerous of a trip for a terrorist to cross miles and miles of desert. Any well-funded terrorist will enter through the northern border, which is un-protected, or will fly into the US on a first class seat. Terrorists have money, are well funded, have myriad resources, and are well connected. There is no need for them to cross the treacherous southern border.

We are wasting money on the wrong border and the wrong methods of entry.

70 Scholarships August 14, 2014 at 1:46 PM

Maybe you would all be singing another tune when your child tries to apply for a scholarship or assistance for college, but can’t because you are not a first generation college illegal student. I went to DVC because I had to pay for my own schooling. When I transferred to Cal, I was shocked when I was talking to another student who transferred my year from from DVC to Cal, in the same major, same grade point average, by the amount of aid he received. He was not even a citizen and I was overwhelmed by the amount of scholarships, internships, and aid he was being offered that I couldn’t qualify for (I guess good PR).

71 THE CLOCK IS TICKING August 14, 2014 at 2:51 PM

Don’t kid your self America. THEY are already here. Don’t act surprised. Its time to wake up from the American dream. Hope it not too little too late.

72 Mtz resident August 14, 2014 at 4:35 PM

I grew up in L.A. and as a child was forced to move 3 times due to gang violence perpetrated by mostly illegal aliens from south of the border. It’s obvious that those of you who say that there is no way to secure the border cannot ( or do not have the capacity to) comprehend the severity of the illegal immigration problems we have been faced with for decades. The US already has the technology, tools, and resources to effectively address illegal immigration. You should be asking yourself why our immigration laws are not being enforced, and start to address this problem by voting out the current administration. We have been let down in a big way by the dems and the reps, and our children and their children will suffer the most.

73 Atticus Thraxx August 14, 2014 at 5:45 PM

Describe to me please how exactly you intend to secure either border with “technology,tools and resources”. Limit access,sure. But secure? Secure to me means nothing gets through, not by land, sea, underground or by air. 24 hours a day, 365 days a year. Year after year. Mexican border, not including sea is almost 2000 miles. Canadian border almost 4000 miles.
Maybe you should have moved in with your Aunty and Uncle in Bel-Air.

74 @ proud of my coulture.. August 14, 2014 at 6:45 PM

Sending that money home and not paying TAXES on it. If one group is given a pass or special treatment, then everyone should get a tax break. Not doing so is “raciss”. Try to go to Mexico and stay there illegally, see what happens….
I personally do not understand people who wax nostalgic about a country so poverty and crime stricken they have to leave and then come here with the same attitude and mannerisms that created some of those same problems.
There is a reason why you are here…

If we have to endure another 9/11, the nations leaders should be subject to a public tar and feathering. If it takes building a wall to have security, so be it.
Maybe a SEAL team Six-type of cartel hits, see how Mexico feels about our soldiers doing a job they are too corrupt to do.
“Ni Modo”

75 Mtz resident August 14, 2014 at 8:13 PM

@Atticus Thraxx-

I won’t get into the details on such a technology but it does exist. As for resources, there are many. Maybe you could be hired to assist in this effort: One less deadbeat on government handouts would benefit all of us.

76 bigbry August 15, 2014 at 7:23 AM

Welcome to Mexifornia

77 The Numbers Guy August 15, 2014 at 8:41 AM

@Mtz resident

the whole US military, Special Forces, Army, Navy, Marines, Airforce, CIA, satellites, drones, minefields, walls and bombs, couldn’t stop whole armies of Taliban from crossing the Pakistan Afghanistan border at will. And you think we have the “technology” to completely shutdown the border with Mexico?
What technology are you talking about? perhaps we should have a constant wing of C-130 gunships strafing children round the clock. That oughta send the right message! kill a few hundred of them and the rest will stay at home!

78 John H. August 15, 2014 at 11:02 AM

The majority of the new crime is committed by these illegals that cross the border… Why is this so hard to figure out for some people? We need to shut down the border completely.. and ship back the ones that are here now.

79 Atticus Thraxx August 15, 2014 at 1:29 PM

Alright John H I give up. Funny how the type of people who demand strategic miracles are careful to never be in the position to have to perform same. There’s a term for them in the military but I won’t use that language on this blog.

80 me August 15, 2014 at 1:55 PM

We have the resources to protect the border. The motivation is purely political to not use these resources and enforce the laws of this Republic.

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