Claycord – Talk About Politics

July 11, 2014 21:00 pm · 435 comments


This post is “Talk About Politics”.

Please use this post to talk about politics, and keep politics out of the “whatever” thread.

Thank you, and be kind to each other!

401 Elwood July 17, 2014 at 10:14 PM

The saddest part of his delusional state is he doesn’t write just for himself.

He actually believes someone reads his bloviation.

402 furian July 17, 2014 at 10:15 PM

Uhh, post 309 is a nonsensical mess?

Is that the reaction you want?



403 Foreign Policy July 17, 2014 at 10:18 PM

Peace thru weakness.

404 Yhe Phantom July 17, 2014 at 10:43 PM

Yup to the 309 Cleaner “Myth of Reegan Welfare Queen”

4. Republicans will aggressively repeat a simple and easily remembered meme that supposedly devastates the opponents’ proposition (a meme is a Red state tag line). This is generally a repetition of a coded remark learned on media, where their source just invokes a distracting factoid. The announcement of the false icon, or slogan, is thought to be sufficient to counter point the proposition, however rare or improbable the icon, or meaningless or stupid the slogan.

5. Republicans use of rare hypothetical examples, extreme anecdotes and even simple, stupid, lies are used to construct an artificial icon or meme (a meme is a Red state tag line) that is thought to represent the issue or its solution (straw man).

6. Analogies and metaphors Republicans deem useful are often dangerous distractions from reality. There is little profit in discussing such things with them because it is similar to trying to talk to a broken toy…no response, or the persistent snap of a broken spring.

– The story you tell is not representative of any significant population, yet it drives the Republican agenda to deprive many good hard working taxpayers of deserved benefits when they fall on hard times.

405 Niki Hoeky July 17, 2014 at 11:30 PM

Ooh boog-a-boo you
You ooh boog-a-boo you, little boy
Get hip to the consultation of the boolawee
Umm hmm, umm

406 Hook Line n Sinker July 18, 2014 at 4:50 AM

Post 309 was from address by DR. Bill Cosby to the NAACP
on the 50th Anniversary of Brown v. Board of Education.

How easy it is to make the immature look foolish ?

407 Anon Redux July 18, 2014 at 7:23 AM

Book Review: Obama’s Enforcer

For those who might view “Obama’s Enforcer” as a hack attack by conservatives, read it. It is filled with concrete examples of Holder crossing the line in pursuit of a deeply political agenda.

The book is also entertaining. Each page brings a new revelation, as in “It can’t get any worse, can it?”, to “Oh my goodness, it really can.”

Corruption and rampant crony capitalism

Consider online gaming. For years, the Interstate Wire Act had been interpreted to ban online lotteries. Until December 2011–that is, when Eric Holder “reinterpreted” the law to permit online gaming.

Why? Holder’s old law firm (when it wasn’t helping Gitmo detainees for free), was representing clients like Lottomatica. It didn’t hurt that a top executive was a big donor to the Democratic Party either.

408 Anon Redux July 18, 2014 at 7:32 AM

How Obama is turning liberalism into an instrument of coercion

Liberals just aren’t very liberal these days. The word “liberal” comes from the Latin word meaning freedom, and in the 19th century liberals in this country and abroad stood for free speech, free exercise of religion, free markets, free trade — for minimal state interference in people’s lives.

Consider the Supreme Court decision in Harris v. Quinn, ruling that caregivers for disabled relatives paid with Medicaid funds are not state employees and thus cannot be forced into a public employee union.

Today’s liberals pushed this law in President Obama’s Illinois to channel public money away from low-income caregivers and toward public employee unions that do so much to fund and support the Democratic Party.

Today’s liberals seem bent on pushing people around, and preventing them from speaking their minds and practicing their beliefs. It’s not just the language that’s changed. They have become power-grabbing, big government, bullies.

409 Connie Dobbs July 18, 2014 at 7:34 AM

“New WIne Region Forming July 17, 2014 at 6:51 PM

MOSCOW (AP) — Russian scientists say they believe a 60-meter (66-yard) wide crater discovered recently in far northern Siberia could be the result of changing temperatures in the region.

Andrei Plekhanov, a senior researcher at the Scientific Research Center of the Arctic, told the AP Thursday that the crater was mostly likely the result of a “build-up of excessive pressure” underground due to rising temperatures in the region”

Or maybe the underground nuclear weapons testing. Who can say.

410 Connie Dobbs July 18, 2014 at 8:24 AM

#409 That was funny; I don’t care who you are.

411 @Connie 412 July 18, 2014 at 8:45 AM

You’re saying wespons of mass destruction? Get the troops ready. Let Dick know.

412 @409 July 18, 2014 at 8:50 AM

Sorry my attention span is short and I can’t focus that far back. But it’s good we have someone like on top of it. Keep up the good work.

413 furian July 18, 2014 at 10:37 AM

So what’s your point @409?

It’s still a nonsensical mess.

You wingies just don’t get context, do you?



414 shadowblade July 18, 2014 at 1:38 PM


Another piece plagiarized by a conservative. Further proof they are incapable of independent thought. Good job pointing that out.

415 Yhe Phantom July 18, 2014 at 2:19 PM

“DR. Bill Cosby to the NAACP?”

1. The characteristic defects in Republican thinking include the recurring alcoholic fault finding habit of mind, reduction of any complex situation to some simple and rigid ideological issue, an analysis that reduces any situation to some false model they can understand, or on making homicidal war based on some false threat to the country.

– Looks like we could have avoided World War II by just seeing to it that Adolph had better parenting…where did Cosby get his Ed. degree?

– I do love it when white people quote black people’s remarks directed at black people.

The folks Cosby’s talkin’ about make up 8% of the total black population. There are 92% of the black population living the other middle class reality.

There are just as many white girls and white daddies livin’ the same dream…bad parents!

416 Yhe Phantom July 18, 2014 at 2:38 PM


“If you actually drill into who is getting what benefits from the government, a much different picture emerges. Indeed, the first thing you realize is there is no “typical” recipient of government aid. If you want to see who in this country is on the government dole, it turns out that the answer is “everyone.” It’s just that some of us get our government assistance in ways that allow us to lie to ourselves and pretend that we’re not getting that assistance. But, the ugly truth is that if you want to see an image of a “welfare queen,” the quickest place to look is in the bathroom mirror.

“Taking a broader view, there’s no reason whatsoever to think that single mothers, particularly single mothers living in poverty, are the biggest beneficiaries of government spending. As Brad Plumer of the Washington Post explained in September 2012, by far the largest group of recipients, with money sent to them directly by checks, is not, as conservatives assume, single mothers. No, 53 percent of direct cash entitlements go to people over 65 years old. Another 20 percent goes to disabled people and another 18 percent to working people, LEAVING ONLY 9 PERCENT FOR NON-DISABLED, NON-WORKING PEOPLE THAT CONSERVATIVES LIKE TO PRETEND MAKE UP THE BULK OF RECIPIENTS OF SOCIAL SPENDING.”

– Yhe Phantom estimated 9.2%, and slightly more than half of these may be black and Hispanic.

417 Dennis July 18, 2014 at 3:33 PM

- The story you tell is not representative of any significant population, yet it drives the Republican agenda …

you mean like school shootings, and accidental shootings of children in homes with guns, and every abortion is the result a rape, and every criminal executed was innocent? That crap that drives the Democrat Party, although it is not representative of any significant population?

418 @417 July 18, 2014 at 3:36 PM

That was just bizarre.

419 Moonbeam succumbs to the minority again July 18, 2014 at 3:53 PM

SB 1306 was sponsored by Democrat Mark Leno from San Francisco and signed into law today by Gov. Brown.

“Under existing law, a reference to ‘husband’ and ‘wife,’ ‘spouses,’ or ‘married persons,’ or a comparable term, includes persons who are lawfully married to each other and persons who were previously lawfully married to each other, as is appropriate under the circumstances of the particular case,” it reads. “The bill would delete references to ‘husband’ or ‘wife’ in the Family Code and would instead refer to a ‘spouse,’ and would make other related changes.”
Leno sponsored the bill after Proposition 8, in which California voters said no to same-sex marriage, was declared unconstitutional by the 9th Circuit Court of Appeals and the Supreme Court refused to overturn it. State Rep. Leno said of his legislation,”This legislation removes outdated and biased language from state codes and recognizes all married spouses equally, regardless of their gender.”

420 RSPECT July 18, 2014 at 4:02 PM

Hip waders needed, ‘Group Now Claims Obama Wasn’t Technically Fundraising For It On Day Of Malaysia Air Plane Crash’

Non teleprompter comments he made were not well thought out and setting was not appropriate.

Death of almost 300 people deserves RESPECT.
What they got was RSPECT.

Significance of RSPECT will be lost on democrats.

421 Yhe Phantom July 18, 2014 at 4:53 PM

“That crap that drives the Democrat Party, although it is not representative of any significant population?”

Yes, absolutely correct…we agree on yet another thing. There may be a difference where some BS just hurts people and other BS helps people.

My main issue is how many exclaim, “wrong doing” when the small percentage of “undeserved ” public assistance is being abused, while not acknowledging how much government assistance they themselves receive.

I look at the 22% of the GDP coming from government going directly into the GDP and being paid to corporate suppliers (88.6%), whose stockholders bemoan the 11.3% going to the poor and underserved, where much less than 4% of the 11.3% are cheaters and sluggards.

And the government suppliers may be producing “deliverables” but often they are producing soft “field services” and “resources” and “conferences” and “team building” and “support services” and “planning projects” and “materials and equipment to better facilitate”, “field services” and “resources” and “conferences” and “team building” and “support services” and “planning projects”

Then there is the need for faulty weapons systems; F-22 and the like.

Even the military is suspicious of US government suppliers. I have noticed that nearly every piece of infantry field weapons and equipment is supplied by European vendors, yet our domestic US military spending stays constant.

There is so much more going on than the “welfare fraud”…see Wal-Mart, Target, Exxon-Mobil, and Chevron.

#309 and #409 are missing and deflecting from the major point, while making a “race specific” one.

The major topic of interest to me just now is the devolution of the Republican Party into four oppositional groups, Establishment, Tea Party, Right leaning independent, and Confederate.

422 Yhe Phantom July 18, 2014 at 4:57 PM

#423 “RSPECT July 18, 2014 at 4:02 PM”

Quit pretending you give a damn about them or anybody else but yourself…

423 shadowblade July 18, 2014 at 5:08 PM

“That was just bizarre.”

Yeah. Conservatives seem to get their “news” from opinion pieces. Some of the time, they don’t bother to credit the sources. They just plagiarize the piece. Disgusting.

424 Yhe Phantom July 18, 2014 at 5:24 PM


Here is where the idea came from originally…Democrats got it, Republicans did not.

He was tryin’ to get a new story started the first time…

425 et-al July 18, 2014 at 5:55 PM

“Like I said…you are just posting political talking points, and have no real argument.”

I rather dance with Atticus than dialog with you. You have a negative reputation. Thanks anyway.

426 . July 18, 2014 at 6:22 PM

it is so insecure

427 RSPECT July 18, 2014 at 6:26 PM

Hopefully someone told him why they were laughing at him

428 Split up CA. July 18, 2014 at 6:34 PM

Soon moonbeam may be able to run for two more terms in another State.
Voters may just be Pi$$ed off enough at CA democrats to break up sate into 6 states. Leave it to democrats to Sh$t in their own nest.

429 They Are So .... July 18, 2014 at 6:40 PM

“Significance of RSPECT will be lost on democrats.”

They rushed RIGHT in and provided proof, statement was true.

430 bow July 18, 2014 at 7:01 PM

‘ Obama hits reset button on wobbly public response to Malaysia Airlines shootdown ‘
“President Obama on Friday called the downing of Malaysia Airlines Flight 17 an “outrage of unspeakable proportions,” declared it a “wake-up call” for timid European leaders,…”

Speaking from knowledge and first hand experience, he’s all over timid.

Perhaps they could emulate
Step 1: Play Dumb
Step 2: Investigate Yourself
Step 3: Blame Two-Bit Bureaucrats
Step 4: Attack the Investigation
Step 5: Pretend the Scandal Never Existed

431 @et-al July 18, 2014 at 7:11 PM

Could it be the footed onesies pajamas shrank and are restricting circulation ???

432 Marissa July 18, 2014 at 7:50 PM


433 You Can Afford It July 18, 2014 at 8:01 PM

“According to the State Department documents, four different hotels were needed, but the actual number of rooms obtained was not released. Although establishing a total “room night” count is standard practice, it can be assumed that more than one room per hotel was used.

The total cost for the one-night was $2,245,343 spread over all four hotels. It must be nice to be ‘down for the working man,’ while living like royalty in foreign lands spending big bucks …”

“The total cost for the one-night was $2,245,343..”

Guess money is no object when you’re a legend in your own mind.

434 shadowblade July 18, 2014 at 8:27 PM


You plagiarized an opinion piece. Nice job.

435 et-al July 18, 2014 at 9:49 PM

Nope. Wrong again, Bubba.

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