Water Cooler – Reckless Driving & Jail

June 18, 2014 12:00 pm · 44 comments

The “Water Cooler” is a feature on Claycord.com where we ask you a question or provide a topic, and you talk about it!

The “Water Cooler” will be up Monday-Friday at noon!

Today’s question:

Do you think reckless/drunk drivers should face extended jail time for endangering the life of other drivers on the road, or do you think the government does enough to punish those who are caught?

Talk about it!

1 funny man June 18, 2014 at 12:09 PM

off with there hands! that way they cant drive drunk ever again.. but still have feet to walk where ever they need too

2 Concord74 June 18, 2014 at 12:21 PM

Yes to your question!!

What government??

3 Concordejet June 18, 2014 at 12:27 PM

Jail time

4 JW June 18, 2014 at 12:30 PM

Yes, they most certainly should face stiff penalties. They should also make driving a privilage like it used to be instead just giving everyone a liscense. I guess, the more morons who have liscenses, the more money there is to be had. Insurance companies, oil companies, auto companies, parts companies,lawyers, hospitals, and funeral homes, they all make money off it. Is it a morbid thought? Maybe. Is it far fetched but true? Maybe.

5 Rob June 18, 2014 at 12:33 PM

They should be harshly punished – they clearly don’t care about anyone else when they drive drunk so why should we care about how severe the punishment is – take their car and crush it in front of them – send them to prison for 10 years and never let them have another license – and if they are caught again – we’ll really get serious.

6 Incognito June 18, 2014 at 12:36 PM

Extended jail time? What do you mean “extended”?

Currently, we have seen there is little to no consequences nor any jail time served if you drive drunk and kill someone.

7 Anon June 18, 2014 at 12:41 PM

Repeat DUI, yes. The state needs to build more prisons to hold all criminals. The judges have to be more harder on repeat DUI offenders.

8 oldman June 18, 2014 at 1:05 PM

The government always does too much.

9 Kirkwood June 18, 2014 at 1:16 PM

The first step is to enforce the existing laws and administer the correct punishment. Tougher laws won’t decrease the number of offenders because nobody expects to be caught.

10 ... June 18, 2014 at 1:17 PM

Doesn’t matter what the public thinks.
FECKLESS democrat state legislators all but eviscerated any deterrence thru threat of incarceration. Three years ago they passed a law that guaranteed County jails would become overcrowded, there’s no room.

11 Idiocracy June 18, 2014 at 1:36 PM

IDK Personally I think if you injure someone/yourself or damage property then you should get the maximum penalty. However I also think the .08 limit is a joke. I’ve been hit by a drunk driver and was happy to see the cops take him away. I also have seen many friends who were fully aware and capable of driving get DUI’s so IDK because these DUI’s ruin lives more than they seem to protect. I know some of you have lost a loved one so don’t get me wrong police need to be on top of it. I think a cheaper late night public transportation system geared for drinkers and funded by drinkers could be a solution. Cabs are very pricey and designated drivers are hard to come by these days.

12 NoJailTime June 18, 2014 at 1:44 PM

No. I don’t think wreckless drivers should face jail time. With the over crowding in our jails, it wouldn’t make sense. Also, these people could become worse criminals in jail. Once they get out, no job, no nothing, then what? Wreckless drivers should get hours and hours of community service picking up garbage on the side of the road, working on city maintainence projects, stocking shelves at the food bank, working in homeless shelters, working in animal shelters, etc. They should be sentenced to community service for a couple of years and spend all their free time doing it. They should also volunteer at a critical care center where people have been injured in traffic accidents so they can see the outcome. Maybe they can learn patience and compassion and gain some wisdom.

13 Dear idiocracy June 18, 2014 at 1:47 PM

Well named.

There is nobody,repeat nobody ,whose ability to drive isn’t affected at a .08. If you think a drunk driver has to be staggering around to count as a real drunk you are wrong.

14 a June 18, 2014 at 1:50 PM

Ideally: Yes.

Practically: This would be abused by police and prosecutors and people will do time who don’t deserve it, therefore no. Better to let 10 guilty go free than imprison a single innocent.

15 Elwood June 18, 2014 at 2:00 PM

“No. I don’t think wreckless drivers should face jail time”

Neither do I.

Reckless drivers, however, should be boiled.

16 ClayDen June 18, 2014 at 2:29 PM

I’ve been wreckless for a long time.

17 Concord June 18, 2014 at 2:54 PM

When you injure or kill someone, you should get some jail time.

18 The Mamba June 18, 2014 at 2:56 PM

I think the law is set up pretty well the way it is, if you are a repeat offender, you are facing some serious penalties.

19 Rob June 18, 2014 at 3:05 PM

“… June 18, 2014 at 1:17 PM
Doesn’t matter what the public thinks.
FECKLESS democrat state legislators all but eviscerated any deterrence thru threat of incarceration. Three years ago they passed a law that guaranteed County jails would become overcrowded, there’s no room.

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So you say that Democrats passed a law that filled up the jail but then say that they “eviscerated any deterrence thru threat of incarceration”.

How can they be sending more people to jail to “fill” them up while at the same time reducing deterrence though the threat of incarceration…

20 Concordejet June 18, 2014 at 3:36 PM

Rob good point

They should be harshly punished – they clearly don’t care about anyone else when they drive drunk so why should we care about how severe the punishment is – take their car and crush it in front of them – send them to prison for 10 years and never let them have another license – and if they are caught again – we’ll really get serious.

21 Fat Tony June 18, 2014 at 3:46 PM

The penalty for first offense DUI in El Salvador is death by firing squad. There is no second offense.
In Bulgaria the second offense is execution.
But here in the US they would rather waste and time and money on DUI check points and if they’re lucky arrest two maybe three drunks in a five hour period….whoopee do!

22 ConcordMike June 18, 2014 at 4:22 PM

Two different categories as far as I am concerned.
A lot of people don’t know it, but speeding over the posted speed limit can be considered wreckless driving. You could even be arrested if circumstances are justified. Should a soccer mom be imprisoned for wreckless driving?
DUI is much more serious in my opinion, as the offender goes out of their way to get intoxicated. Repeat DUI offenders should get max. But with the overcrowding issue, maybe longer community service sentences are in store.

23 GoGo Gomez June 18, 2014 at 4:37 PM

Repeat DU I hell yes more !

24 anon June 18, 2014 at 4:45 PM

“When you injure or kill someone, you should get some jail time.”

sure …but if you have money to get the best lawyer in the county– you do not get jail time for a DUI death–Rossmoor a few years ago

25 Dorothy June 18, 2014 at 4:48 PM

Punished enough? What punishment? Some lose money and then go out and do it over and over again. Take away the license? They still go out and do it over and over again. Even when someone dies they might get some jail time, but they still go out and do it again.

Larger fine, removal of license, at least a minimum amount of jail time, extended community service (cleaning up ER after car wrecks?), and more jail time if caught driving again. Let them take public transportation.

26 Cowellian June 18, 2014 at 4:51 PM

Wreckless driving is usually rewarded by having lower insurance rates.

27 Julio June 18, 2014 at 4:59 PM

For every wreck-less driver caught 20 of them are not caught and therefore not punished. We need to do a far better job of enforcing the laws of our highways. That will save lives.

28 Concord74 June 18, 2014 at 5:07 PM

Boy, talk about massacre of the English language on this series of posting!!

29 marinemom June 18, 2014 at 5:10 PM

If they did jail time maybe there wouldn’t be repeat offenders

30 Jabon June 18, 2014 at 5:18 PM

Enforce existing laws. Make the ignition breatholizer mandatory for CCC.

31 Elwood June 18, 2014 at 5:29 PM

I’ve been told that some LE regard reckless as worse than DUI on the theory that oftimes you can see a drunk is drunk but you never know when someone will start driving recklessly.

32 anonanonagain June 18, 2014 at 6:00 PM

@ Rob #5, “take their car and crush it in front of them.” My brother lives in Australia and that is part of their law against drunk driving. Repeat offender, your car is hauled away, no matter how expensive and is crushed. But for some alcoholics even that is not enough. They obviously have a problem and can’t take control of it. Perhaps we should take control of them…..:)

33 Blink June 18, 2014 at 6:32 PM

You can’t legislate common sense
Maybe offenders should have to clean up car accidents
Kinda like your dog poops…you scoop

34 Subterfuge June 18, 2014 at 6:49 PM

Reckless driving is wide open to interpretation. But DWI/DUI is a hard and true menace. I’d like to see first time DWI/DUI convicts have their licenses pulled for life. Any DWI/DUI results in a death? Automatic 25 to life.

35 Atticus Thraxx June 18, 2014 at 7:24 PM

No. there comes a point when you move from responsible governance and become oppressive. A saturation point if you will. You cannot legislate, fine and imprison your way to a utopia. In fact, it seems to have the opposite effect. We are at or nearing that point.

36 @atticus June 18, 2014 at 7:49 PM

You are right ,but we are nowhere near that point when it comes to reckless driving and DUIs.

37 Atticus Thraxx June 18, 2014 at 8:21 PM

With all due respect, I disagree @. If I had to bet I’d say we’d see little or no improvement in the statistics if you doubled the penalties across the board. There’s just some segment of our population who just don’t get it. And the rest of us are caught up in the zeal of iron-fisted enforcement again because of a few people who statistically almost have to “F” up? No thanks, not interested.

38 anon June 18, 2014 at 9:46 PM

A Muni officer from Concord drove recklessly, totaled a car, then fled the scene in a reckless manner in an apparent attempt to avoid a witness who followed him. The Muni officer was caught the next day (had not turned himself in) and was not ticketed or cited by Concord PD. Just sayin’ in case anyone’s interested. That’s YOUR system.

39 @aAtticus June 18, 2014 at 11:50 PM

With all due respect back- when DUI penalties and presumptive limits came into effect in the 70s and subsequently a bunch of useful DUI laws were passed in the 80s along with much higher penalties DUIs went way way down. In the late 80s or so (I get foggy) a DUI checkpoint on Monument nabbed 13. Last week CPD got two.

DUIs have gone way down. The reason , in my opinion ,is increasing harsh punishments. The middle class almost has given up drinking and driving.

I think alcoholism is as prevalent as ever but folks don’t want to take a chance on what happens when they get caught..

OB

40 lori June 18, 2014 at 11:54 PM

The goverment has never enough. Why can people get several dui’s and not be in jail?

41 Walnut Creek Resident June 19, 2014 at 11:24 AM

I say after several DUI’S take their license’s away forever! Jail too. If you kill someone jail for life.

42 Idiocracy June 19, 2014 at 11:31 AM

#13 Troll

43 JW June 19, 2014 at 11:51 AM

@Concord74: Sorry, I didn’t spell license correctly. I have always had trouble with that word. Still, I stand behind the idea of my initial post.

44 @Walnut Creek Resident June 19, 2014 at 12:22 PM

An you think that will keep them from getting behind the wheel? They will still drive.

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