Clayton Valley Charter High School Football Team Penalized for Conducting Illegal Practices & Scrimmages

June 17, 2014 15:52 pm · 162 comments

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The Clayton Valley Charter High School football team will be forced to cancel six practices before the start of the season after a panel of three Diablo Valley Athletic League (DVAL) Principals found the charter school conducted illegal practices and scrimmages, according to the DVAL.

The three illegal practices were held on June 2-4, and the two illegal scrimmages against the Diablo Valley College football team and the Byron Boys Ranch High School football team were held on June 2nd and June 4th, according to DVAL Commissioner Craig Lee.

The DVAL Hearing Panel has concluded that:

1. Clayton Valley Charter must give up six total practice days at the start of the official season next August. They may start football practice on August 18, 2014. This is based on NCS Bylaw 103H A, which states that they must forfeit more days of practice than they gained by starting early. Four of the days are a result of the three illegal practice days and the additional two days are due to the illegal DVC scrimmage.

2. Clayton Valley Charter High School will be placed on probation for one year, beginning June 15, 2014. During this time CVC must demonstrate that their coaches are being instructed on the NCS rules, especially as they pertain to practices. They also need to put in place and document administrative procedures to insure that no coaches are practicing illegally and that coaches are not requiring their players to attend summer practices. If it is determined that CVC is in violation of NCS rules during their probation they will be ineligible to participate in DVAL or NCS post-season play in that sport. If a second violation occurs they may be declared ineligible to participate in post-season play in all sports for a period of one calendar year.

According to the NCS Constitution & Bylaws, there shall be no football games until the squad has had 14 days of practice before the first game, which means CVCHS will also have to cancel their first game of the season, the Honor Bowl, against a high school from Carson, NV. The game was supposed to be played in Loomis, CA.

The panel of principals included Gary McAdam, Principal, Concord High School, Paul Gengler, Principal, College Park High School, and John McMorris, Principal, Northgate High School.

To read the entire decision by the DVAL, please click ON THIS LINK.

1 Spanky Fortuna June 17, 2014 at 3:58 PM

Sounds very fair!

2 Michelle June 17, 2014 at 4:16 PM

I mean really, only because they wanted to keep the kids in shape. Many highschools have football camps in the off season. Why should cvchs be penalized for that.

3 Huh? June 17, 2014 at 4:17 PM

Am I reading this right? Even when told by the DVAL COMMISIONER that his practices were illegal, Murphy went ahead and held another illegal practice the very next day thinking the DVAL commissioner was wrong?

Oh…

4 CoCoOld June 17, 2014 at 4:22 PM

Bet they found out about it from reading Claycord.

5 BossHogg June 17, 2014 at 4:23 PM

instead of being a meathead and pounding your head on others and getting CTE, you should be telling your kids to hit the books instead.

6 Just Some Guy June 17, 2014 at 4:27 PM

Drama at CVCHS? I am shocked. Shocked and amazed.

Okay, clearly I’m not. And man it’s starting to be like the Keystone Cops over there these days.

7 Julio June 17, 2014 at 4:28 PM

Give me a break! Are these coaches kindergartners? CVC has to be impeccable in each and everything they do. They are being scrutinized like no one else. Get a grip or they will disband the whole thing.

8 @michelle June 17, 2014 at 4:30 PM

Conditioning is okay the practices are not okay!! Big difference. I hate when people think rules don’t apply to them

9 The Mamba June 17, 2014 at 4:31 PM

LOL, they scrimmaged DVC? That would have been fun when I played there, we had 8 guys go on to play D1 (including yours truly).

10 Sid June 17, 2014 at 4:32 PM

Michelle, as I read it, the issue was that the coach REQUIRED the players to attend summer practices. That’s against the rules. Summer practice has to be optional for the players.

11 feelbad June 17, 2014 at 4:34 PM

NCS needs to check up on CVCHS Coach Coakley and his baseball squad for running year round practices. Maybe NCS should check all sports at CVCHS are following NCS rules. Just saying!!

12 John June 17, 2014 at 4:38 PM

“2. The summer period rule was not understood by the CVC football staff or the administration.’

That pretty much sums it up right there. Neither the football staff, nor the school administrators had a clue. That’s a problem.

13 They rather the kids be in the streets! !! June 17, 2014 at 4:39 PM

The NCS and league guidelines are dumb. I played for Murphy and I was better prepared for college sports because of him. Penalized the kid’s for politics!!!

14 Sid June 17, 2014 at 4:41 PM

The article in the paper said CV could try to schedule a game during their bye week in October in order to play 10 games. What happens if they only play nine? Does that make them ineligible for post season play?

15 Anonymous like the others June 17, 2014 at 4:42 PM

I feel for the student athletes. When will CVCHS realize they are not above the rules. I’d discipline the coach and hope that the executive director starts walking the talk. CVCHS is not above the law.

16 Attitude June 17, 2014 at 4:53 PM

This is a great example of why I find the whole charter school repulsive. It is the, “I’m better than, therefore I deserve” attitude that has come from the teachers, parents and coaches. It began with the charter movement. Why should Clayton students have the right to take money from the rest of the schools in the district? There is a serious flaw in our government. I do not believe that any group should be able to take over a public school, it’s wrong and unfair to the rest of the students in the area. If they were accepting all students who apply, and they were not costing the other schools money, ok. But that is not the case here. I hope this crashes and burns real fast. They are not doing their kids any favors.

17 ANNONeeemoose June 17, 2014 at 4:54 PM

I bet CV’s athletic director was too distracted from HER DUTIES to be paying attention to what Murph was doing. Amber Lineweaver needs to take responsibility for HER program too. Murph screwed up, big time. Paper said he didn’t know… though they could start practices when school was out. But “school is out” was not the criteria even though it always coincidentally fell during school out time when the school got out 2 weeks later. BOTH Lineweaver and Murph need to apologize for making CV look bad, once again. Shame on them. Lineweaver, move on with your friend Pat.

18 GD98 June 17, 2014 at 5:04 PM

The NCS commissioner didn’t even know the proper start date to the Summer period.

Overreaction at its finest.

19 Jerk June 17, 2014 at 5:12 PM

So glad to hear that racism, bullying, and discrimination against LGBTs is finally being dealt with…
Oh wait – Football PRACTICE??? STUPID STUPID STUPID

20 Mustache_Man June 17, 2014 at 5:34 PM

As a parent I would also be a bit concerned that the kids are scrimmaging against a college and a boys ranch!? I guess that’s how you toughen the kids up, play them against men and criminals. Stay classy

21 Typical June 17, 2014 at 5:49 PM

Jock mentality, rules, we don’t need no stinken
rules.

22 Dismayed June 17, 2014 at 6:06 PM

Didn’t know he could not require summer practices? That is a rough one. And did a 7 on 7 vs. the boys rang and Dvc?

To plead ignorance of rules does not lessen the fact that they were broken. And then broken again after he was told he was violating rules.

Yikes

23 Anonymous June 17, 2014 at 6:21 PM

CVCHS is a mess. Can’t decide who they want to run the place and they don’t know any rules. How embarrassing for them and slightly entertaining for the rest of us!

24 RunDogRun June 17, 2014 at 6:26 PM

Nice example they are setting
for the kids. Rules don’t apply
to certain people. Should make
great little citizens … just like
their parents … the ones who
pushed the charter through.

25 Any publicity is good publicity? June 17, 2014 at 6:27 PM

The story just ran on the KTVU evening news.

26 That's the truth, Ruth June 17, 2014 at 6:38 PM

BFD. Why are a bunch of adults here commenting on HS sports anyways? Don’t you have more important real world issues to deal with like bills and feeding your family?

Get a life – my kids are all grown up so don’t have a stake in the school but sounds like an honest mistake and those that bash the school sound as if its driven by envy – that’s it!

27 Judge Roy Bean June 17, 2014 at 6:46 PM

CV football is a rogue operation, and they take pride in that fact. To play ignorant of the NCS, & CIF rules is a poor excuse. How ironic that they will miss the Honor Bowl….Justice speaks volumes. I am sure that more irregularities will be scrutinized much closer.
The CV Charter board and president should take action now and clean out the program and bring in a coaching staff that has honor and ethical standards that represents CVHSC at its best. The reality is not only is the football program tainted but the have tainted the reputation of the school who has a long history of pride and honor.

28 Hmmmm?? June 17, 2014 at 6:53 PM

Hmmm….Trying to better themselves the sneaky way. And their STAR test scores went up phenomenally when they first went charter. Can’t wait to see who, when and how that was all skewed….Where’s the panel for reviewing that??

29 Krispy Innards June 17, 2014 at 6:54 PM

Apparently they tried to better themselves the old fashioned way. – Practicing.

Before all these BS rules that are just “gotchas” for other schools.

30 anon June 17, 2014 at 6:58 PM

“Why should cvchs be penalized for that.”

The rules are made to be brokern

31 Marissa June 17, 2014 at 7:04 PM

It is a shame, rules have to apply to everyone. I wonder if De LaSalle have these illegal practices, but then again, no, they are a high profile school and wouldn’t risk being penalized.

32 anon June 17, 2014 at 7:04 PM

Murphy has been a football coach for over 15 years. Don’t you think he should know the rules by now?

33 The Theorist June 17, 2014 at 7:09 PM

Based on the internal politics spilling in to the public arena and the witch hunts being perpetrated by both sides of the fight, I predict the charter will fall apart by the end of net school year.
Watch and see… and bring some popcorn for all the drama!

34 What about Kahlil McKenzie's transfer June 17, 2014 at 7:27 PM

Are there more details about the Kahlil McKenzie transfer too? Thought that was against the rules too …

35 Mr.Clean June 17, 2014 at 7:31 PM

Like De La Salle has done for years.Who friggin’ cares at this point?No wonder kids are so screwed up today.

36 Michelle June 17, 2014 at 7:34 PM

Yes, let’s limit the drama!

37 Nopenope June 17, 2014 at 7:46 PM

This should be the first of MANY investigations into CVCHS’ s football program. Recruiting, allowing ineligible kids to play, and passing kids who should be getting actual academic help rather than a passing grade for the sake if their GPA’s. This school is getting away with breaking all kind of rules and hopefully this is the first of many times they will finally be held accountable for them.

38 murph get a clue June 17, 2014 at 7:56 PM

NCS hasn’t rulled on this. DVAL is the one that handed down punishment. The game they have to miss out on is the Honor Bowl a fundraiser for wounded soldiers. Murph was told what the rules where and he still held practice after he was told it violated the rules. Murph get a clue you’ve coached for how long? And after what you did to YV when coming back you deserve this. I guess pat is gone you have no one to run to, to help bail you out

39 (insert name here) June 17, 2014 at 8:00 PM

“Confiscating people’s rights and then regulating them back to you.”

Someday the nimrods of California will understand that statement. For now, I say we live in a completely stupid society willing to be governed by bureaucrats.

40 mtzman June 17, 2014 at 8:13 PM

If you read the decision, even the NCS commissioner was confused about the rule and made mistakes.Hardly the end of the world …

41 mika June 17, 2014 at 8:17 PM

Ha, ha!!!

42 De la salle is just mad. June 17, 2014 at 8:17 PM

I think this is de lasalle using there deep pockets to hate on cvchs for getting one of their players. Mmmm…..

43 Sizie June 17, 2014 at 8:53 PM

De la salle, De la salle! Way to go!

44 Sizie June 17, 2014 at 8:54 PM

:-)

45 AllenR June 17, 2014 at 8:55 PM

De La Salle is not mad, they have a quality program and class.
CVHS has neither.

Cheating white trash…typical Concord.

46 Anon June 17, 2014 at 9:05 PM

Looks like the CVCHS haters have returned.

47 Yes, there IS 'a' issue June 17, 2014 at 9:08 PM

Now, about those athletic transfers and kids who mysteriously got in without being in the lottery, and purely by coincidence happen to play football…

48 Lol June 17, 2014 at 9:10 PM

All you guys complain about DLS “cheating” but CV goes charter and they are found guilty of breaking the rules, within a year.

49 Hmmmm June 17, 2014 at 9:13 PM

Hey attitude why instead of. Implausibly about a school your child obviously does not attend. Do something to change their school and make it better. Everyone knows the Mt. Diablo school district is a joke. It has been said by parents from all school, just CVCHS some parents, teachers and facility decided to do something to have more control over the children’s educations. Why don’t you, other parents and teachers do that do the school your child attends? To me a lot of this is people on here wanting to say something about CVCHS just because it changed to a charter to better the education for the kids. Just like North Gate wants to not be a part of the Mt. Diablo School district so they can get the money directly and use as they see fit. As for the politics that’s at every school and it’s in the district you have to deal with. It’s disgusting what just happened at CVCHS, but honestly I hold every adult that was involved in that situation responsible. Lindzey, Middendorf, all the other facility and the parents who came on here and ran their mouths. Maybe you all need to find something else to pass your time, like improving your own child’s school.

50 Hmmmm June 17, 2014 at 9:18 PM

Oops typed to fast up there. Instead of complaining about a school your child obviously doesn’t attend

51 Hmmmm June 17, 2014 at 9:18 PM

Totally should have reread my post before posting it lol. Oh well it’s just claycord

52 Doctor J June 17, 2014 at 9:27 PM

Why penalize the kids ? Suspend the coaches for two years with a no contact requirement with the new coaches or players.

53 Murph get a Clue June 17, 2014 at 9:56 PM

Wasn’t De La Salle that said anything It was one of his own players posting a picture on instagram stating “pads already?” and another coach from another school notified the DVAL. De La Salle could give a rats a… about Kahlil McKenzie going there they probably have someone lined up to fill his spot.

54 Complete Malarkey June 17, 2014 at 10:05 PM

Lets see if I get this straight. Other schools did the same thing but received no penalty. NCS officials were clueless to the start date by evidence of giving permission to schools to participate in Laney passing tournament. Evidence of this fact is noted and start date was moved. This also means at least a dozen other NCS schools were clueless to start date because they committed. One of those schools being NG who also by the way played to in CV hearing. CV is expected to know start date when NCS official doesn’t even know. CV gets to be judged by 3 principles from rival schools as if there is no biased opinions there. Yep think that pretty much says it all.

55 tony June 17, 2014 at 10:08 PM

Coach murph would not do that to
Us
I’m gust saying

56 Folks at CVCHS need to be REAL careful..... June 17, 2014 at 10:09 PM

EVERYBODY is out to get them….

57 CV all day June 17, 2014 at 10:09 PM

Most of you sound jealous of what others have accomplished, it’s sad because a lot of you are so quick to hate on a quality football team when you couldn’t do the same yourself. You say they cheated when they had no idea about the rules that said they had to wait. Atleast the coaches and played are dedicated to the program more than majority of other teams. I can’t belive some people are getting hyped about highschool football. There’s people commenting on this and have no idea about the amount of effort the coaches and players exert it to this team as well with the community.

58 CVCHS ALL DAY June 17, 2014 at 10:19 PM

You guys are all just hating on cv! Honestly all you guys just mad we have a better program than all you guys. Seriously just talking trash cause you guys know we going to be running things on the field. Coach Murphy doing everything right you guys hating on how good of a coach he is! Talk to a real one

59 @Mtzman June 17, 2014 at 10:23 PM

Mtzman, the NCS Commissioner was not confused about the rule. Nhe

60 CVCHS Parent June 17, 2014 at 10:25 PM

Ok you people need to get a clue. My son is a player on the team and all the players on that team were with him from the beginning accept for 4. Those kids love football and from what my son told me all practices are voluntary but the kids want to win and love to play so they are all showing up to work. The so called games were 7 on 7 drills with no score kept just kids covering different kids from another school. No hitting just fun.

And I am sick and tired of all you idiots out there bad mouthing a school the kids love and as far as grades. The NCS rule is a 2.0 to play sports.
If you are a player on Murphs team you better have a 2.5 otherwise you spend your first hour of practice in the study hall with the tutor.

Oh and De.La Salle our student body is all races and creeds and if you were not so ignorant you would know that your school is in Concord Moron.

To the person who said to open the school up to every student, It is and anyone can attend in the district without a iner district transfer. My son loves this school and I am glad he is attending there.

GO UGLY EAGLES!!!!

61 CVCHS Parent June 17, 2014 at 10:26 PM

Correction The DeLasalle comment was to AllenR

62 Changed my life June 17, 2014 at 10:28 PM

I played for Coach Murphy and I can honestly say no one has had a greater influence on my life than him. If it he didn’t come into my life when he did I would not have graduated high school and I would still be doing the same stupid things I was doing before he got there. He convinced me that drugs do nothing but bring you down and got me to quit all the crap I was doing. His life mission is to get every kid he comes in contact with alcohol and drug free. I was just talking to 3 guys from this year’s team and they said Coach Murph just gave a hand-out to everyone on the team to have their parents sign and it really hit home with everyone and all of them have made a pact not to party at all. No one gets to their players and gets them to do the right thing like Coach Murphy. He checks guys grades every week and makes them study with him during lunch everyday if they have any classes that they are failing. He makes them go everyday until they get their grade up. I hated it when he made me do it, but I can’t thank him enough that he did. I owe everything good that has happened to me in the last 2 years to him. And yes, you too Coach Dominguez!

63 @Mtzman June 17, 2014 at 10:31 PM

Mtzman, the NCS Commissioner was not confused about he rule. He had the date wrong for the last CIF event. Big difference.

Tim Murphy is an experienced coach. He should have known better. Shame on him. Shame on the CVCHS administration for letting the coaches operate with no supervision. That’s inviting trouble. Our kids deserve better than they are getting at CVCHS. All eyes will be on CVCHS next year. They’d better shape up and fly right.

64 Finally June 17, 2014 at 10:32 PM

Finally, CVCHS has been penalized for thinking that the rules do not apply to them. This article brings joy to my face.

65 Smurphee June 17, 2014 at 10:34 PM

At first I had my doubts about Murphy illegally recruiting but now with kids passing up the lottery and getting straight in for football it is certainly questionable. I mean why are kids on the waiting list getting passed up? By the way can anyone confirm when Christmas is this year because I thought since I coach at a charter that it may come two weeks earlier than it did last year.

66 CVCHS seems a little mad. June 17, 2014 at 10:38 PM

To all CVCHS students and parents:
It does not matter how amazing Coach Murphy is or how CVCHS has “changed your life.” Rules are rules. They must be enforced. These practices were conducted ILLEGALLY regardless of whether the children wanted to go to practice or not. I’m tired of CVCHS thinking they are above any rules. If you wanted to avoid this, Coach Murphy could’ve spent more time looking at the rulebook instead of scheduling illegal scrimmages with DVC. CVCHS broke DVAL code. It is as simple as that.

67 chs alum June 17, 2014 at 10:49 PM

Why does everyone have to discredit everyone on these blogs. Its terrible!! Murphy is a great coach.Look what he has done with the cv program that was horrible before he got there. Give the guy a little slack.

68 CVCHS ALL DAY June 17, 2014 at 10:51 PM

You guys are hating, childish and no life honestly why you here running your mouths off . Really go do something productive cause right now you guys sound like a bunch of babies! CV ALL DAY !!!!

69 bigdaddy June 17, 2014 at 10:52 PM

@60 amen!!!!!!!

70 The Spartan Way June 17, 2014 at 10:54 PM

First of all DLS is not mad at Clayton Valley, we can actually beat them. Concord on the other hand….not so good the last few years. I think CV is 3-0 against them since Murphy has been there. And 2 of those wins were absolute blowouts. Its fairly obvious most of the CV bashing is from Concord high. Who else couldn’t figure out that when a coach posts something on a public website for months that he wasn’t trying to hide something. And the fact that NCS officials had confusion and 2 other schools did the SAME THING IN THE SAME WEEK AND IN THE SAME SECTION speaks volumes. But you Concord High guys just cant let it go because you need to make yourself feel better for being the 3rd best team in the city of Concord. Just play the game and quit trying to deflect your losses to CV to something that was an obvious oversight.

71 Complete Malarkey June 17, 2014 at 10:58 PM

Above the rules?

CVCHS has never acted like they were above the rules period. Fact is Gil Lemmon didn’t know the start date. Proof is he had to move to accommodate Laney passing tournament. CVCHS didn’t try to hide what they were doing it was posted on the web site for months prior. Murphy owned the mistake as noted in paper. CVCHS wasn’t only school in NCS to break rule. In other words sound more like a poorly written rule than CVCHS thinking they are above said rule. Proof should be NCS’s own official didnt know date.

72 @The Spartan Way June 17, 2014 at 11:28 PM

You are not a true Spartan so don’t act like it. I just got back from the movie preview “When the Game Stands Tall.” I would be embarrassed to call you a fellow Spartan.

73 2020 NCS Vision June 17, 2014 at 11:57 PM

Wow, someone from CVC acting like a DLS person got caught! SMH! This is comedy.

74 Z-Man June 18, 2014 at 5:18 AM

@ @The Spartan Way # 72. Attending High School and playing football is not a movie, and not nearly a foundation of how it is to attend higher education. Don’t use a movie production to identify the Christian Brothers’ efforts… nor someone’s scrimmage match up.

75 nuxie June 18, 2014 at 8:13 AM

Anyone who uses the term “hater” is ignorant and anything you have to say will by summarily dismissed as the irrational ramblings of a moron.

And that little life lesson was on the house. You’re welcome.

76 Teacher Wannabe June 18, 2014 at 8:14 AM

Tim Murphy is a great coach (and teacher). His YV team scored record 32 pts against DLS and led a Clovis team to a win against Long Beach Poly ( which has sent more players to the NFL than any other school). So, if there was a mistake, it wasn’t on Coach Murphy’s part. He would have known better. If the NCS can’t get there numbers straight…any team that can claim him as part of their coaching staff is better off.

77 Anon June 18, 2014 at 8:17 AM

I know for a fact that there not letting kids in just for football. I know 3 students that got denied. Most of these students that did transfer during the last school session.
LETS GO PITTSBURG PIRATES!

78 AJL June 18, 2014 at 8:25 AM

ANNONeeemoose YOU move on. Nobody cares to see your written drivel. Everyones tired of your cowardly name.

Mr. Lineweaver

79 @77 June 18, 2014 at 8:36 AM

Yea and AJL indicates clearly who you are.

80 nuxie June 18, 2014 at 8:40 AM

@ CVCHS Parent,
Ya know, you really shouldn’t scold people on “getting a clue” when you are the one who should scrape up a few bucks to buy one. The 7-on-7 drills were “just” against kids from other teams with no score kept? Hi Einstein, that is what’s known in the vernacular as a “SCRIMMAGE” and is what…? That’s right, ILLEGAL under the rules.

Even in youth football we tell kids don’t be going down to the park or anywhere else in groups to play football while wearing any of the team gear as it can be construed as a “practice” and there are strict rules on when/where & how many practices can be held, and there have been penalties meted out in our league for such violations. And oh by the way, if you think missing a “voluntary” practice isn’t “noticed,” perhaps I can interest you in a bridge for sale.

And what are you babbling on about regarding creeds and colors at CVCHS as opposed to DLS? Have you actually been to the DLS campus when students are out and about, or been to a student function? The demographics are far from lily white.

And “accept” instead of “except”? C’mon, you’re better than that.
Then again, probably not.

81 Judge Roy Bean June 18, 2014 at 8:44 AM

How do you have voluntary full pads & contact practice? The team last 2 years has been in full pads and contact last 5 weeks of the school year and takes it right on through. They think by calling it a football camp that it is legal. Funny…. a camp that goes for 3 months?. Talk about a loose interpretation of the rules or is it more like… We make our own rules until we are caught with our pants down.

82 PPM June 18, 2014 at 8:49 AM

Anon #76,
So guess you’re ignoring the football kids from CP and elsewhere who transferred in? I know 2 kids right now who had lottery numbers over 200 doing the freshman SPARQ training at CV, and they are not enrolled at their home district school, which is Deer Valley, nor are they enrolled at any other school. So if they’re not enrolled at CV, then how are they doing SPARQ?

83 CV-Parent June 18, 2014 at 8:52 AM

It is really sad that our CV Coaches and worse that the Athletic Director does not know the rules and how to read them to learn how not to break the rules.
What is even worse from reading the penalty, is something all CV Parents of Student/Athletes should be seriously concerned about…the potential for all CV Sports Athletes being penalized with a 1 year suspension of all post-season play!!! This can and will happen if our dumb football coach and Athletic Director allow additional rules violations against the football program. Those 2 individuals will cost all SPORTS ATHLETES at CVCHS to be penalized. As parents of other sport athletes, we all should be voicing our views to the Administration and Athletic Director about this potential. Coach Murphy needs to come forward at the school and honestly and truthfully apologize to all athletes for putting them in the position of possibly losing their post-seasons as well. It is not fair to any of the other sports at CVCHS. But being around the CV family as it now stands, I seriously doubt the football coach or Athletic Director will apologize to any other sport athletes. Think of the other athletes in: soccer, tennis, lacrosse, swimming, volleyball, basketball, track/field, etc… They could be penalized as a group because of the football coach thinking he is above the rules and then having zero oversight from the Athletic Director.
Absolutely Just Wrong.

84 Anon June 18, 2014 at 9:42 AM

Pat’s mentality has been driven into the ranks. Do what we want, as for forgiveness later. A parent even blogged it in a previous commentary, believe it was Football Dad.

Forgiveness may be given, but finally, rules and penalities are being enforced. Pleading, “I didn’t know” is not good enough and never should have been ignored for so many years.

85 Mr. Pink June 18, 2014 at 9:57 AM

Whatever. If they broke the rules, penalize them. If they didn’t, move on.

86 Complete Malarkey June 18, 2014 at 10:15 AM

@CV Parent

Reading comp my friend. If football violates football is banned not the entire sports program. If baseball violates baseball is banned not entire program. If there are continued violations yes they can ban all teams. That said holding the coaches and administration solely responsible for a date even NCS official G.Lemmon was clueless to is a bit harsh. I’m just saying. Murphy has taken full responsibility for gaff and it’s pretty clear it was a honest mistake. Remember other schools were in violation as well.

87 Anon June 18, 2014 at 10:17 AM

Do you want to know what is really sad….to see a “CV Parent” comment about our school on this site in a negative way. If you have concerns take it to the administration or to a board meeting. This site is all about trash talk! If you really cared about the school and your kids you would voice your conerns anywhere but here. If you don’t like CVCHS move on!! Maybe the MDUSD will be a better place for you and yours.

88 ugly eagle mom June 18, 2014 at 10:17 AM

Murphy has been a great coach.

89 Complete Malarkey June 18, 2014 at 10:18 AM

@PPM

Not sure what your point is here? Kids in question aren’t enrolled at CV or haven’t been accepted so whats your beef? The fact they payed to attend a summer football camp isn’t illegal or shady.

90 Reality Slap June 18, 2014 at 10:25 AM

Perhaps a Coach that can read and comprehend NCS rules might help…that and….realizing it’s NCS not NFL….might help the situation.

91 Mike June 18, 2014 at 10:31 AM

Lol… This place has more drama has more drama than Real Housewives or Game of Thrones.
A good coach made some bad decisions… Whether it was knowingly intentional or unintentional is kinda moot at this point…
The league/Officials are taking action… So move on.
I graduated from DLS in the 80s. Many of my friends played football (several received full rides to some great schools), and had most of the coaches as a teachers while there. All of whom, teachers, coaches, & students hold themselves to a high moral & ethical standard. I remember players wanting to practice harder, more often & with pads during the off season, but the coaches not allowing them because of league rules… & guess what, the kids followed the rules.
DLS has been scrutinized by everyone on everything since that time, yet been successful & competitive academically, as well as many sports.
“Enter to Learn, Leave to Serve.”

92 Horse n around June 18, 2014 at 10:47 AM

I would love for my children to attend this school. But….I don’t like reading about this school having sooooo many problems. I really don’t know. Is it worth trying to get my child enrolled to or not? I honestly thought that it being a charter school would be great. But after reading all of the negativity I just don’t know.

93 Reddit June 18, 2014 at 10:52 AM

DLS is still better….. That’s why CV has 1991 students… of course right below the 2,000 required to be division 1. Murphy is a little baby as seen in the video against DLS last year where he was yelling at the DLS kids for a block…

94 Anon June 18, 2014 at 10:57 AM

@ Horse n around

don’t base your decision on the trash you read on this site. CVCHS is a great school. I have two there. Visit the school during the day, meet with Mr. Romo and talk to other kids that go there. Is your child into any sports? Meet the coaches. People love to bash other people, the school or whatever the story is of the day. I love CVCHS! Yes we have had some issues, all schools do. Those issues will get worked out and the trolls will move on to bash someone or something else.

95 Mr. Pink June 18, 2014 at 11:09 AM

@Horse n around

My kids do not go there, but overall I believe it’s a good school. Yes there have been some issues, but it’s also a new charter and sometimes things take time to work themselves out. From what I’ve heard it’s a much better school/environment than it was as CVHS. Part of the problem is that we’re constantly reading about all this drama on Claycord (not bashing Claycord, Mr. Mayor) and thus we must take all comments with the proverbial grain of salt.

96 Former CVHS Parent June 18, 2014 at 11:32 AM

There is a very disturbing article about CVCHS and its troubles posted on the Contra Costa Times website this morning. They interviewed Middendorf, Linzey, McChesney and others. One thing I found very suspicious is that Linzey and McChesney had filed papers with the CCC Board of Education for a “Clayton Valley Charter Collegiate Academy”. I’ve read through the CVCHS governing board minutes and there is nothing in there about forming a new charter school. What are they up to? Did governing board members know about this? Have Linzey and McChesney “gone rogue”? I’d love to see what was in those papers. Apparently Middendorf got her hands on a copy.

http://www.contracostatimes.com/News/ci_25986663/Concord:-Cloud-hangs-over-Clayton-Valley

97 Told ya June 18, 2014 at 1:23 PM

@ Reddit #93,
Ha, if that’s true then I called it…I have said that don’t know why everyone getting worked up about the “expansion” because just did not see any way that CV would increase student popluation to the point it would push them to D1. The test scores are nice, but sports–especially football–is what puts you on the map. At D2 they are the big fish in a small pond…at D1 they’re a medium-sized fish in a pond full of sharks. And even though Middendorf is gone, it’s no secret it was her plus other admin vision to not just excel academically, but dominate in sports in order to become an elite school.

98 Lottery List June 18, 2014 at 1:46 PM

But how is it that the kids transferring in to play football get in front of the line on the lottery list? There are a couple hundred of kids on the waiting list. The new transfer from DLS is already practicing with the football team and since my son is on the lottery list this concerns me. So even though my son is a 4.0 student he has to wait because he doesn’t play football? That transfer just announced last week that he was going to switch schools. At this point I should take my son off the waiting list, very frustrating.

99 Mustang Pride June 18, 2014 at 1:47 PM

If you decide where to take your kids somewhere based on this website that would be a shame. Like Anon said, go visit the school, talk to students, student-athletes and staff, you will be amazed the difference between what they say and the handful of people using multiple names on this site. I actually have, these are good people and the students are happy. On top of that, go talk to a young man who plays or has played for Coach Murphy. You would be amazed on what they say about him. To this day I’ve never heard players talk about their Coach like that and we have some real good coaches in the EBAL. Honestly people the negativity on so many of your posts are the sad part. If your not happy with your life, make it better, don’t try to trash people without them being present. Let’s move on to the season itself and let the kids from all the east bay schools enjoy the year or years they have left playing this great game.

100 Lottery List June 18, 2014 at 1:58 PM

@mustang pride

Clearly you have a kid that currently plays for Murphy. It’s not about negativity, its about being fair to all kids.

101 NCAA June 18, 2014 at 2:10 PM

@all of you
CVCHS lost it’s appeal for the violations just as Aaron Hernandez will. You can’t break rules and expect a favor in return. Lost in all of this is the fact that the football program has had such a negative influence on the school that it has forced Carson to scramble for a worthy opponent in The Honor Bowl as well as having the entire athletic program put on probation for a year. Do you really think that this is the end? CVCHS jumped at the chance to get a highly recruited football player that was expelled from Pitt after pulling out a gun on campus last June. Leopards don’t change their spots, it’s only the beginning.

102 Mustang Pride June 18, 2014 at 2:18 PM

Lottery List, my youngest graduated in ’98, little past that. I understand your concern with the lottery but why not call the registrar at CV and find out instead of venting on a website? Go to the source and find out, that’s what you have to do if you want answers. And that’s all I’m saying when it comes to all of this stuff. Quit trashing people and find a solution or answer to your situation or question.

103 Unhappy Parent June 18, 2014 at 2:25 PM

@ Lottery List

I agree. Why should students that play football get a special pass? I too have a child (daughter) that’s in the top 40 of the lottery. I thought our chances were good until now. If my child does not get in because there isn’t any room but these athletes get to bypass the process I will be outraged, and I’m sure I won’t be the only parent.

104 Complete Malarkey June 18, 2014 at 3:15 PM

@lottery list / unhappy parent

It’s my understanding that there is a list for each grade. This done to keep class sizes relatively the same. While there maybe 250 on a list for incoming freshman, there may only be 50 for sophomores, 25 for juniors, etc……so yes for incoming freshman it much harder to get in. But upperclassman have a better chance because frankly most kids don’t want to change after their freshman year. All these athletes folks are complaining about are upperclassman so it’s mush easier to get in.

105 Appeal? June 18, 2014 at 3:16 PM

@NCAA

And when was the appeal? The news was just announced yesterday. They held an appeal today?

106 Oversight? June 18, 2014 at 3:49 PM

Who is the CVCHS charter authorizing entity, and how closely are they scrutinizing the events going on at CVC? Allegations of questionable transfer students bypassing the lottery system to play football, and football players who played last season with less than 2.0 gpas. The illegal practices and 7 on 7 events that call into question the ethics of the coaching staff. The head coach denying knowledge of the illegality of the start date for practices. Why are such issues seemingly pooh-poohed by our neighborhood school? Isn’t one of the goals at CVCHS to teach our children good values?

107 AJL-Lineweaver June 18, 2014 at 4:00 PM

@17 ANNONeeemoose: YOU move on. Nobody cares to see your written drivel. Everyones tired of your cowardly name.

Not sure what @79 is referring to.

108 Judge Roy Bean June 18, 2014 at 4:02 PM

@Lottery List…many of the athletic hardship transfers have D- grades. Apparently CVHSC will improve academic performance is the argument presented to forgo any wait list…..This is how you get around that you are not coming to the school for sports…Wink…Wink… CVHSC needs to stand firm on standards and not look the other way. Credibility is they key to total success. It takes a little time…you can not have it all at once. If kids are getting turned away now, it is because the microscope has been pulled out and all actions are under scrutiny.

109 Anon June 18, 2014 at 4:18 PM

@ Unhappy Parent

You will be outraged because you are foolish enough to believe the hate spewed on this site. You have know real idea when these athlete’s applied to CVCHS. Heck they may be number 39 for all you know. Stop believing everything you read on here from people that just want to stir the pot. Go to the office and get your facts straight. Please!!!

110 A VERY HAPPY CV Parent June 18, 2014 at 5:06 PM

A bunch of grown- ups writing meaningful comments about a coach that made a bad decision. I really hope that all of you criticizing and making negative comments about the school, the teachers, the coaches, the program, etc., etc., had in any way participated and given your time to make a difference in your kids schools.

GO EAGLES!

111 Smurphee June 18, 2014 at 5:16 PM

Well Kahkils little brother who is an under class man got his transfer through too since he was also practicing with the football team at CVC. Amazing how that happens. Especially since just last week Murphy was quoted saying I wouldn’t even recognize the kid if he walked passed me on the street…Really??! Now come on people who are we kidding? It’s also funny how CVC folks keep dismissing the fact that Murphy already broke rules and got caught by the DVAL, not by CHS, not by College Park, not by Northgate. Stop blaming everyone else except your coach in charge.

112 Reality Slap June 18, 2014 at 5:34 PM

#110

It really quite simple. Any employee needs to read and follow the rules and policies that apply to their employment. Volunteers are not out of the loop as to having mandatory compliance to rules and policies as well. A bad decision that is repeated is not “A” bad decision, it is a deliberate action that sets a very bad example.

113 chs alum June 18, 2014 at 7:49 PM

I hope cvchs appeals it…. The ncs does not have a clue. Everyone is practicing illegally.. Its been going on for years… Gil Lemon is a Clown…

114 about that kid with gun charges June 18, 2014 at 9:23 PM

Hey NCAA, there you go again about the kid with a gun. Give it a rest already. Maybe the kid is doing better now, maybe his coaches counsel or encourage him to think differently. Did he improve his grades, his behavior, or peer group? I am curious to know if you actually know this kid, smile in his face, and then trash him at any chance. some one must have taught you to act like that. Poor form NCAA

115 Lucky Athletes June 18, 2014 at 9:25 PM

The McKenzies are just lucky. Both brothers hitting the lottery after choosing to leave dls has nothing to do with football. The RB from cp hitting the lottery is just luck. The rec/db from dls is just luck. None of these transfers have anything to do with football, change of address or grades it’s just luck. It’s not that CVCHS got caught it’s just luck. The kid with the 4.0 gpa and in the band not getting in is just luck. Mittendorf receiving the outstanding achievement award for 2013-14 and gets fired is just luck. Murphy breaking more rules in the future bc he doesn’t understand them will just be luck. The NCS granting the mckenzies eligibility will probably be just luck and not because dad is the gm of the raiders.

Kahlil left dls bc he didn’t want to work around or with the dls requirements to be apart of the football program. There was a conflict with a nike camp so dad pulled the plug on dls. Transferring to dls was solely for football. No change of address, no bullying, did not get kicked out or threatened too, mom and dad did not get divorced and clearly not a financial issue. Was it just luck?

116 mika June 18, 2014 at 9:33 PM

If I was a parent with a student on the wait list, I would demand some trustworthy entity audit the process used to enroll the students. I would be furious if a student bumped mine because of sports! I would think just about anything CVHS does from this point on will be scrutinized by many.

117 Rollo Tomasi June 18, 2014 at 10:09 PM

From the findings of the panel:

“On June 6th the NCS Commissioner was reminded that he had given permission for Logan High School to conduct a 7 on 7 passing tournament on Saturday, June 7th at Laney College, thinking that the CIF state golf meet was the final CIF event on June 4th. This permission was granted several months earlier.
On June 6th the NCS Commissioner changed the start of the summer period to Thursday June 5th because of the permission given for the passing tournament. About 14 NCS teams had signed up for the June 7th tournament.”

The NCS Commissioner had no clue what date practices could start, but Murphy’s a dirty rotten liar because he didn’t know either?

118 Just sayin June 18, 2014 at 10:14 PM

DLS has been recruiting and paying tuitions for their stars since Lad took over.None of their stars have been from concord so why is it a big deal CV got a few of those type of kids.Im not sayin CV s coach was right for early practices but lets be real DLS laid the foundation for mandatory year round training.

119 @ 118 June 18, 2014 at 10:44 PM

Just sayin #118,
So you don’t know the difference between a PUBLIC and a PRIVATE school? DLS can do pretty much whatever they want because they are PRIVATE, whereas CV still has to follow certain rules because they are PUBLIC. There are some athletes at DLS who get financial aid, but they go through the same process as any other “non-athlete” family applying for aid. But for most athletes who can’t afford full tuition, they benefit from “scholarships” funded by other DLS families and alums, which there is absolutely nothing wrong with that. As far as “year-round” practices, again, you have no idea what you’re talking about…they still have to follow CIF/NCS rules & guidelines, and they just aren’t that stupid to push the envelope in that manner when there is absolutely no reason for them to do so.

120 Appeal? June 18, 2014 at 10:45 PM

@lucky Athletes

Lottery has been explained. And it stands to reason since most upperclassman who transfer at athletes, well athletes get in.

121 Appeal? June 18, 2014 at 10:50 PM

@rollo tomasi

While the NCS rep didn’t know right start date. Neither did the other 14 schools or coaches who committed. Either that or they were all willing to break the rules. It should also be noted northgate was there. They also had a vote in the CVHS meeting.

122 ANNONeeemoose June 19, 2014 at 7:35 AM

Maybe someone said this already but I would venture to guess 90% or more of that “wait list” are freshmen. The older kids can probably much more easily transfer in. People move away, etc. That certainly makes sense to me. They have had a huge influx of freshmen wanting to attend, not sure of the demand for the sophomore, junior or senior students, but it wouldn’t make any sense to be concerned they bumped a freshmen to allow a senior in. Right?

123 bigdaddy June 19, 2014 at 7:51 AM

blah blah blah…..
why doesnt every one move on from all the negativity

124 Unhappy Parent June 19, 2014 at 8:17 AM

@ ANNONEEmoose

So you’re saying there is NO wait list for seniors because apparently this DLS football player was able to get in to CV from one day to the next, and his freshman brother too…really? I guess it’s just luck.

125 Lottery List June 19, 2014 at 8:58 AM

@ANNONeeemoose how do you explain Khalil’s little brother who is a freshmen bypassing the lottery list too? His transfer must have already gone through if both Khalil (senior) and his little brother (freshmen) are already practicing with the team. They don’t live in the area so a transfer request of some sort must have been submitted and somehow that freshmen bypassed others that have been on the waiting list for months. You and others on here say it’s tougher for freshmen to get in yet not for Kahlil’s little brother? Don’t worry I’ve reached out to the appropriate people at CVC to get my answers on this. No I don’t rely on all the information on this site but it’s a fact that kids saw these kids already practicing with the team.

126 Sibling rule June 19, 2014 at 9:19 AM

I actually did do some research, Seniors have priority and there are less of them. Than Juniors and than sophomores in that order of priority. Incoming freshman are last on the last and there are tons more of them, that’s the difficulty in getting them in. Little brother got in on the sibling rule and big brother got in because he is a senior. See what happens when you actually take the time to find out instead of throwing wild accusations out there.

127 nope June 19, 2014 at 9:22 AM

Nope, its no coincidence the transfers that are all going to the front of the line are football players. Nope, no illegal pre inrollement contact there by the football coaching staff. Nope, no collusion by the administration.

Everyone move along, there’s nothing to see here.

128 Rollo Tomasi June 19, 2014 at 9:31 AM

@ #126:

Thank you for shedding some light on the subject with actual research and facts. I guarantee you this information won’t matter to some of these malcontents.

129 Lottery List June 19, 2014 at 9:40 AM

From the research I have done the sibling rule only applies during open registration. Registration has been closed for a few months now. Do you really think they both registered months ago? I highly doubt it.

130 ANNONeeemoose June 19, 2014 at 9:44 AM

I would guess there is no wait list for Seniors. Somehow I don’t think there are seniors banging down the doors to transfer out of their local schools. Of course you get normal move-aways, and normal move-ins but my guess is yes, the seniors probably don’t have much issue. The freshmen, I don’t know. Has anyone confirmed the family wasn’t in the lottery?

131 @Lottery List June 19, 2014 at 9:47 AM

I might be able to believe that the older brother got in because there were no other students on the senior waiting list. I agree with you about the younger brother. There is no way a freshman should have been able to get on the waiting list and get admitted at this point in the year. There would have been many students ahead of him on the waiting list. Siblings of already admitted students have priority in the lottery drawing over other students from outside the CV boundaries, but once the drawing is over, any siblings added to the list, as this one was, would go to the end of the waiting list. The charter does not allow for any exceptions. That’s the way I interpret the rules. Read it for yourself and see if you agree. Here is the link to the charter. Go to pages 90-91 to read about admission procedures and the lottery rules.

http://www.claytonvalley.org/ourpages/auto/2013/7/8/43465203/CVCHS–Charter%20document.pdf

What can anyone do who feels the school isn’t following the rules? Complain to Executive Director David Linzey, I guess. You could also complain to the individual members of the governing board. You could go to the next governing board meeting and speak during the public comment section. You could complain to the County Board of Education. You could email Theresa Harrington, the education reporter at the Contra Costa Times, and ask her to investigate.

132 Appeal? June 19, 2014 at 10:04 AM

Again facts are being twisted here. The younger brother of said DLS transfer is a sophomore. In other words he doesn’t fall on the long freshman list. Again system is designed to keep class sizes about the same throughout. What you people seem to think is everybody is on one list. Not the case it’s a by class situation. If it wasn’t there would be 1500 freshman and 1000 for rest of student body. Transferring upperclassman have a greater chance of getting in than incoming freshman transfers. And since most upperclassman who transfer are athletes it stand to reason they are getting in.

133 Lucky Athletes June 19, 2014 at 10:36 AM

Unfortunately for Khalil he will not be playing football at CVCHS this fall. NCS will not be granting him eligibility due to the nature of the transfer and not meeting any of the criteria required to transfer with eligibility. The younger brother will gain eligibility after the sit out due to him not being on a varsity roster last year. The loss of eligibility will not effect Kahlils future due to his status as the top dline prospect in the country. Kahlils only option to play hs football in NCS would be to re-enroll at dls. Ask Gil Lemmon if you need clarity.

134 bigdaddy June 19, 2014 at 10:37 AM

im glad you foos all spend half your day researching these rules for the community. this clay cord site would be a lot better if it just posted the current news, and forgot about all the blah blah blah……

135 Wait list parent June 19, 2014 at 11:42 AM

My daughter is on the wait list and I recall at the lottery there was an option to take online classes. The impression I got was this would help with the volume of students on campus at one time. Does anyone know if this option is still available? Is it possible the wait list kids can take online classes so they can still be students at CVCHS?

136 Not a issue June 19, 2014 at 11:46 AM

@Lucky athletes/ Hamilton

Wishful thinking just a bit huh? He would have to sit out if transfer was solely for athletic reasons. That would be a hard sell when you consider he transferred from a nationally ranked/recognized program in DLS to one that isn’t. As for asking Gil Lemon anything whats the point? It seems he didn’t even understand the rule or start date in terms of football practice either. Think he will grasp eligibility?

137 That is correct June 19, 2014 at 12:07 PM

Lucky Athlete #133 has it right. Due to the nature of the DLS – CVCHS transfer, he unknowingly made himself ineligible for athletics. He is now restricted to playing sports at DLS in NCS. He would need to transfer again outside NCS to play football. I don’t know if he knows that yet.

138 Lucky Athletes June 19, 2014 at 12:52 PM

@ not a issue
The rules are very clear. Not sure what you meant by Hamilton unless that’s at another user on this topic?

139 Appeal? June 19, 2014 at 1:01 PM

@Lucky athletes

Yep rules are very clear on transfers. And it’s pretty clear this kid didn’t transfer “solely” for athletics now isn’t it?

140 Lucky Athletes June 19, 2014 at 7:36 PM

@appeal
He transferred to play football because he didn’t like the football programs off season and in season schedule at dls correct? He has grades, didn’t move, not getting bullied, not financial, mom and dad no divorce. He doesn’t meet transfer criteria according to NCS by laws. Not only that with the other infractions CVCHS has committed and been punished for the NCS will not grant him eligibility while under athletic probation. CVCHS is responsible for the situation it put itself in.

141 Appeal? June 19, 2014 at 9:57 PM

@Lucky

Again good luck proving it was for athletic reasons only. He went from a nationally recognized program to one that isn’t. It could have been for social reasons he just didn’t fit in, tired of the rules, didn’t like the lunches, gf goes to CV, etc………..there are a host of reasons he could have transferred other than sports. But you can dream whatever you want, he will be playing.

142 Lucky Athletes June 20, 2014 at 3:18 PM

@Appeal
Aren’t you tired of being wrong. You haven’t even acknowledged losing the appeal. Are you really that immature? Is the entire jv staff that bad or just you. Regardless of what user name you put up you always end up being wrong and still don’t acknowledge it, you just move on to the next argument. Other users have posted very useful information through out the charters disaster and you disclaim every posts that turns out to be correct. You would think that if somebody was so confident they wouldn’t hide behind a made up name. One of the Concord coaches had the stones to post his name but I guess that just says something about the difference in true coaching staffs and caught red handed cheaters. Own up to something for once or get off the site and go play video games.

143 Appeal? June 20, 2014 at 4:59 PM

@lucky athletes

No idea what you reference as far as coaching and JV staff. I’m neither a coach or affiliated with a JV team. As for appeal when was it? I have seen nothing in regards to it. No media on it, no word on if they will appeal, nothing. As for hiding behind a name is yours lucky athletes? I hope they do appeal because I think they are being singled out when you consider NCS had no clue of start date. Two other schools were guilty of same thing with no sanctions, this seems more about Con, CP, and NG jealousy than anything. End of the day if it stand it stands this three still have to play CV. That hasn’t changed. And KM will play in all those games, might miss first 6 but he will be there for league.

144 Lucky Athletes June 20, 2014 at 6:56 PM

@appeal
CVCHS appealed immediately and was denied. CVCHS wasn’t penalized for the laney 7on7 as were no other teams. The start date was 6/8 and CVCHS complaining about the laney deal is pointless, CVCHS was punished for illegal scrimmages on 6/2 and 6/4 vs Byron boys ranch and Dvc.
Dls, Con, Cp and several other schools did not go to laney bc their head coaches actually do their jobs. NCS will not grant Kahlil eligibility and that is a fact. He will withdrawal from the charter as soon as he’s notified further proving the point of it was just for sports. With CVCHS on probation don’t be surprised when they are found in violation again, it’s just what they do. Besides with the path the football program is on their transfers won’t matter anyways, just ask the cp RB transfer with the broken ribs from the deer valley scrimmage how he likes Murphy’s practice schedule? CVCHS can’t win with Clayton kids and everybody knows it.

145 Not a issue June 20, 2014 at 7:43 PM

@Lucky Athletes/Hamilton

Who mentioned Laney not me. I was referencing M catholic and Middleton both started practice when CV did. But yes in terms of Laney Lemmon approved the event after a dozen or so schools had committed. In other words all those schools and league were confused on start date. As for a RB from CP and broken ribs? Who cares CVs back is returning from last season as far as I know. But again you sure seem awful concerned with all things CV. It’s probably also why you new about sanctions etc before they were announced huh coach Hamilton. Like I said your still gonna have to to play me coach. All your crying and complaining wont change that.

146 Not a issue June 20, 2014 at 7:49 PM

@Lucky Athletes/Hamilton

Who mentioned Laney not me. I was referencing M catholic and Middleton both started practice when CV did. But yes in terms of Laney Lemmon approved the event after a dozen or so schools had committed. In other words all those schools and league were confused on start date. As for a RB from CP and broken ribs? Who cares CVs back is returning from last season as far as I know. But again you sure seem awful concerned with all things CV. It’s probably also why you new about sanctions etc before they were announced huh coach Hamilton. Like I said your still gonna have to to play them coach. All your crying and complaining wont change that.

147 Ex pirate June 20, 2014 at 8:07 PM

@lucky athletes
You seem more informed than Gil Lemon.I remember when my son played for pitt Galli was sending all his head cases to play for Hamilton at concord. With all you knowledge im sure your aware he gets his best players fom pitt,yv,Mt every year just like clayton is doing now.I havnt seen these schools complaining about these football transfers they just line up and play.None of these schools could beat Pitt even after DLS,concord& clatyton take players from us.BVAL is the real football power.

148 Flintstone June 20, 2014 at 8:09 PM

So, Not a issue is coach Murphy. Figures. What a joke.

149 Lucky Athletes June 20, 2014 at 8:39 PM

@issues
Are you crazy?! Do you think Concord is worried about the charter that’s in all of this trouble? Concord is by far the DVAL favorite. As far as being Hamilton you’re wrong. I’ve seen you play this card before and one of Concords coaches pulled it. If you don’t think Coach Clem is on Concords staff then why don’t you ask Murphy or Canessa who he is and they’ll probably tell you to keep your mouth shut. You’ve denied so many of the facts that were given on these posts and then you looked like a complete jack ass after the truth came out. You give zero meaningful thoughts on these pages. Did you know thar CVCHS got caught cheating and lost several practices as well as forfeiting the first game of the season and left the entire athletic program in probation for a year? Argue that

150 Anon June 20, 2014 at 9:06 PM

coach Hamilton?? Now that’s funny!! Didn’t coaches from Concord approach and say inappropriate things to some of the cvchs football players at Nations after a game one night? Wasn’t there some kind of formal hearing or something with the league?

151 Not a issue June 20, 2014 at 9:19 PM

@ex pirate

Your post is spot on.

@ lucky athletes

Nope had no idea about sanctions until it was announced. You however seeded to know everything before its announced. Which is why it’s clear your from one of three programs. CP, NG, OR CON, my guess is concord. Why because Hamilton is what 0-3 against Murphy two of those losses being blowouts. He has been crying since Murphy showed up. As for asking Murphy anything? I have never spoken to him or anybody on his staff. But do I need to? No. A child could see through you BS here, and that same kid could see who the better coaching staff is.

152 Lucky Athletes June 20, 2014 at 9:20 PM

@everyone
CVCHS is on athletic probation for an entire school year, suffered the loss of 6 days of football practice, had to forfeit the first game of the football season and had it all aired out in the contra costa times as well as being televised on the news. You can’t cheat because it’s against the rules. Due to all of these infractions they’ve committed the NCS will put a stop to any future violations they commit, illegal transfers included. Thank you to Claycord for giving us the opportunity to make our community aware of what’s going on in our own backyard.

153 Oh no....... June 20, 2014 at 9:56 PM

@Hamilton/Lucky athletes

Get off your soap box. They didn’t cheat. They made a mistake. Didn’t try to hide anything it was on their web site for months. Other schools did the exact something their leagues just aren’t as petty. Murphy took full responsibility for over site problem was his judge and jury were principles from Con, CP, & NG. Think any of those folks are gonna give CV a break? Or even a fair hearing? Bottom line sure they got penalized but they are still gonna win league and probably put the beat down on those three teams in the process. So have fun with that.

154 karma works June 21, 2014 at 12:32 AM

I would love to see such effort to promote academics for the kids of our community. Sports are important, but a quality education for all kids regardless of their economic background and ethnic background should be more important than if DLS goes undefeated or if CVCHS beats CHS. So sick of elitist atitudes. I hope that sports makes these kids better students and members of our society, but students need good teachers, counselors and adminatrators to guide them to life beyond high school.

155 transfer eligibility June 21, 2014 at 8:29 AM

Are you listening Reggie. The penalty for a parent filling out incorrect or false transfer eligibility information is 24 months of intelligibility for the student. That would essentially do it for his 2 sons.

Are you reading this CVCHS AD and Gill Lemon. The penalty for filing false eligibility info to NCS is additional sanctions to the School.

Just a heads up.

156 Michelle June 21, 2014 at 10:25 AM

@transfer eligibility
Many schools should have been sanctioned if that is the case.

157 transfer eligibility June 21, 2014 at 11:13 AM

Michelle

I agree. But this transfer is high profile and being looked at closely. Lets see how it all turns out. The student does not meet any of the eligibility requirements for athletics yet he is practicing and scrimmaging. This is a big red flag in my opinion. Too bad because I hear he’s a real good kid. Transferring to cvchs during this period was not a good idea.

158 Michelle June 21, 2014 at 12:08 PM

@transfer eligibility
Be that as ir may, it happens all the time.

159 Eligibility? June 21, 2014 at 3:05 PM

How does he not meet any of the requirements for athletics? He isn’t a grade issue. It’s summer practices. He can choose to go to school wherever he wishes. If he has to sit out 6 games so be it. But this not meeting any requirements is hogwash.

160 Reality June 21, 2014 at 8:04 PM

News bulletin:Khalil no Khalil,Jackson no Jackson, more practice less practice.concord still has to beat the charter to win anything.0-3 not a good start,probably why they are so obsessed with our coach.maybe if they put that energy into a Defense that can hold the charter under 40 they would fair better.my son is a 3 year starter at cv(2-0vsconcord)and I will take joy in watching him win another DVAL title this year.jealousy is a bad look.The other schools have dignity and won’t blame a loss on a conspiracy.Go Eagles!!

161 Lucky Athletes June 22, 2014 at 2:54 PM

Good luck beating Concord they are loaded this year. Cvc has no qb and no oline, secondary is weak and lbs average at best. Harrison is only legit player coming back. It’s only going to get uglier at this point, it’s a long summer and with the way things are going for the charter they’ll be lucky to make it thru a season. At least some of the kids from Clayton might get on the field this year lmao!

162 Smarty Pants June 22, 2014 at 3:03 PM

@ Karma Works #154
Thank you for making point about something everyone seems to be missing and that is academics. Everyone is so wrapped up in all this football drama. How many of the football players received athlectic scholarships last year? How many students received academic scholarships? If the first one was more then there is a problem. What good is it to boast about high API scores if they are not using them to move toward the next goal which is a college degree. This football drama is dividing the community. People..people..people get a grip

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