Judge Strikes Down State Teacher Tenure Laws, Unions Vow to Appeal

June 10, 2014 21:54 pm · 75 comments

California’s teacher tenure laws were declared unconstitutional by a Los Angeles County Superior Court judge today.

Judge Rolf Treu said in a written ruling that five laws governing teacher tenure, dismissal procedures and seniority violate the state constitutional rights to equal treatment and a free public education.

Nine students who challenged the laws proved that they “impose a real and appreciable impact on students’ fundamental right to equality of education and that they impose a disproportionate burden on poor and minority students,” Treu wrote.

The decision came after a two-month nonjury trial before Treu earlier this year.

Students Matter, a Menlo Park-based nonprofit group founded by Silicon Valley entrepreneur David Welch, sponsored the students’ lawsuit, filed against state officials in 2012.

Welch said today, “I believe in public education…But I also believe our public education system is failing our children because it has stopped putting their needs and their success above all else.”

Treu issued an injunction barring enforcement of the laws, but suspended it to give the state and two teachers’ unions a chance to appeal.

The two unions, the Burlingame-based California Teachers Association and the Burbank-based California Federation of Teachers, vowed to appeal.

“Like the lawsuit itself, today’s ruling is deeply flawed. This lawsuit has nothing to do with what’s best for kids,” said CTA President Dean Vogel.

The unions, which were allowed to join the case to defend the laws, argued during the trial that eliminating teachers’ rights would make it harder for public schools to attract and retain good teachers.

CFT President Joshua Pechthalt said of the lawsuit, “It is fundamentally anti-public education, scapegoating teachers for problems originating in underfunding, poverty, and economic inequality.”

A spokesman for California Attorney General Kamala Harris, who represented state officials in the trial, said lawyers in Harris’ office are reviewing the decision.

The appeal process could take a year or more. If the ruling is upheld, it would require a revamping of the teacher tenure laws.

Treu wrote that as a judge, he had to “trust the Legislature to fulfill its mandated duty” to pass laws that are constitutional and give children an equal education opportunity.

State Superintendent of Public Instruction Tom Torlakson, who was a defendant in the case, said attracting and training talented teachers is one of the most important tasks of school districts.

“Today’s ruling may inadvertently make this critical work even more challenging than it already is,” Torlakson said in a statement.

Treu estimated, on the basis of testimony by state officials, that between 2,750 and 8,250 of California’s 275,000 public school teachers are in a category he called “grossly ineffective.”

He said the evidence that grossly ineffective teachers have a negative impact on students is compelling.

“Indeed, it shocks the conscience,” the judge wrote. The five laws Treu struck down were:

  • A measure that gives teachers permanent tenure after two years, unless a district tells them by March 15 of the second year that they won’t be retained. That is “not nearly enough time for an informed decision to be made,” the judge wrote.
  • Three laws providing procedural protections for teachers whom school districts are seeking to dismiss for incompetence. The layers of procedures are so “complex, time-consuming and expensive as to make an effective, efficient and yet fair dismissal of a grossly ineffective teacher illusory,” Treu said. He said trial evidence indicated that firing a bad teacher can take two to 10 years and cost a district $50,000 to $450,000.
  • A last-in-first-out statute requiring that teachers must be laid off in order of least seniority. Treu said the layoff of a gifted junior teacher is a “lose-lose” situation for both that teacher and students.

Congressman George Miller, D-Martinez, the senior Democrat on the House Education and Workforce Committee, applauded the decision. “This is an historic opportunity and a defining moment for California, one that we must not squander,” Miller said in a statement. “We owe it to the six million students in California’s public education system to be thoughtful and deliberate, and to put their needs first as we move forward,” he said.

1 idiot hater June 10, 2014 at 10:03 PM

Finally! Someone does the right thing!

2 Anonymous June 10, 2014 at 10:12 PM

Wow Miller is right,finally. Watch Bonilla duck and dodge this, probably as well as Torlakson did.

Parents were teachers , so was the misses. She had a teacher she worked with who was insane. Had another who did nothing. Couldn’t fire them.

I think the vast majority of teachers work hard and I hope they support the idea that bad teachers need to go.

And we should pay the competent ones more.

3 Fuel to the fire June 10, 2014 at 10:14 PM

Well, it’s about time this happened. Look for a lot of brilliant young teachers at a school near you in the next few years. Good bye you old school burnt out teachers.

4 NoMoreFreeRide June 10, 2014 at 10:19 PM

It’s about time!! Tenure has done more to dumb-down our students than anything. The CA teachers union has allowed tenure to protect useless teachers for far too long. How many of you have tenure at your job?

5 PH Dad June 10, 2014 at 10:30 PM

Excellent news. Most surprising is that George Miller came out in support of it. Least surprising that Torlaksen doesn’t like it.

6 The Authority June 10, 2014 at 10:31 PM

Wow! King George Miller really ISN’T running again if he is now biting his Union master’s hand.

7 Connie Dobbs June 10, 2014 at 11:00 PM

Perhaps a certain Pittsburg teacher will have to take some time this summer to learn her Latin abbreviations and how to avoid use of the singular they.

8 And Bonilla June 10, 2014 at 11:24 PM

A complete tool of the teachers union, what does she say?

Nothing !

9 Elwood June 10, 2014 at 11:33 PM

Remember, the teachers’ union is not about better wages, benefits and conditions for the teachers.

“It’s for the children.”

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

10 Barbosa June 10, 2014 at 11:40 PM

The foundation of our modern civilization rests on our kindergarten teachers having tenure so they can exercise their inherent right as academicians to mold young minds as they see fit without fear of retribution from the powers that be.

Oh, how I shudder for our youths of tomorrow.

11 Dee June 10, 2014 at 11:40 PM

Good!

12 Dennis June 11, 2014 at 1:07 AM

@Barbosa
unless they ignore teaching and focus on indoctrination of their personal sexual, religious, political, and ethical values … no matter how much they diverge from the socially acceptable norms.
after all, tenure is nothing more than immunity to accountability.

13 scrub June 11, 2014 at 5:12 AM

Tenure sounds great. I should have tenure at my crappy job.

14 Killjoy June 11, 2014 at 5:15 AM

Mark this day on the calendar! I finally agree with George Miller on something.
There are plenty of rotten teachers hiding behind “tenure” that the MDUSD can’t get rid of. If it’s happening here, you know it’s happening elsewhere too!

15 Eat food June 11, 2014 at 5:23 AM

No good teacher would have an issue with this

16 Smart,Goodlooking&Debonaire June 11, 2014 at 6:14 AM

if the unions are against it, it’s the right thing to do.

17 @10 June 11, 2014 at 6:47 AM

What a crock. How much time do you take off for union business?

18 Don P - n concord June 11, 2014 at 6:56 AM

@Barbosa who said “The foundation of our modern civilization rests on our kindergarten teachers having tenure”

Are you SERIOUS?! Hahahahahahahahahaaaahaaa no.

19 Always Right June 11, 2014 at 7:03 AM

Hooray!!! Our children will be better off when this decision is implemented in MDUSD.

20 walter white June 11, 2014 at 7:08 AM

Sounds like a good idea to me, and my wife’s a teacher. Letting crappy teachers stick around because of tenure is ridiculous and helps no one but that teacher.

21 waverunner June 11, 2014 at 7:23 AM

Even being a former teacher, I never supported tenure. Saw it as a way for many poor teachers to coast by.

22 Cowellian June 11, 2014 at 7:35 AM

Maybe this will carry over to other states. I don’t have more recent numbers, but in 2009, New York City had 700 teachers who were barred from the classroom, some for sexual offenses. But because they were tenured, they couldn’t be fired. They continued to draw full salary and benefits for not doing anything.

23 Marianne June 11, 2014 at 7:48 AM

hopefully.

24 Aspirin June 11, 2014 at 7:54 AM

What caused the need for tenure in the first place? Were teachers unjustly fired or treated unfairly? I’m for the decision but curious about the need for tenure.

25 Be careful June 11, 2014 at 8:20 AM

This could also mean that if a good teacher is at odds with district policy that teacher could be fired. If the people who donate tons of money to a school don’t like a teacher that teacher could be fired. It will all come out to the old “money talks”.

I’m not saying tenure was a good thing, as it isn’t, but this opens the door for those with money who think their little brats are perfect and it is always the “teachers fault” for said brats problems at school to have the upper hand and not only get bad teachers fired but good ones as well.

26 94598 June 11, 2014 at 8:21 AM

first time I’ve ever agreed with George Miller- I must be missing something

27 The Mamba June 11, 2014 at 8:37 AM

It was definitely time for a change, hopefully this moves things in a positive direction.

28 California Nightmare June 11, 2014 at 8:50 AM

Having had kids go though public school in MDUSD, I would say we have maybe 20% outstanding teachers, 50% that are acceptable/good, and 30% that are incompetent or “retired in place”.

I am not saying we need to fire 30% of our teachers, but the bottom 1/3 need a wake up call. You know who you are. You use all your paid absence and sickness days during the year. You do the minimum amount of work to get by, and your goal is to show enough videos in class so you can get all your paper work done in the 6.5 hours a day your contract requires to be on campus.

You are either burned out, counting the days to retirement, or have a bad attitude. Shape up or ship out !

29 Interesting June 11, 2014 at 8:56 AM

The way people talk about how crappy teachers are; it is interesting to note that less than 5% of teachers fall into the category of “grossly ineffective”. The probability of getting a grossly ineffective teacher is pretty low. I don’t disagree that something needs to be done to make it easier to remove the ineffective teachers from the classroom, but based on comments on this site alone I can understand the fears that teachers have about vigilante parents/administrators forcing them out for reasons other than ineffectiveness. We need to make sure we focus our efforts in the correct directions. Yes, teachers are part of the problem, but they are also a very big part of the solution. Administrators are just as much of a problem as well as legislators that dictate educational standards and practices that tie the hands of teachers.

30 Bob the Repairman June 11, 2014 at 8:59 AM

Miller would not have endorsed this if he was not retiring. Thr unions would not let him do it.

31 Jster June 11, 2014 at 9:01 AM

I too am surprised that I for once agree with George Miller… but the only reason Miller is agreeing with this is he’s retiring from Congress and doesn’t have to worry about reelection.

32 Sacto Rob June 11, 2014 at 9:14 AM

California teachers still enjoy academic freedom; this decision has nothing to do with that.
This was a long, long overdue decision. The unions will drag this out for years of appeals they won’t even have to pay for; they’ll get the Attorney General to fight against the best interests of students, and use taxpayers dollars to do so.
But someday, perhaps after only a few million more kids suffer from second rate educations, justice will finally prevail in the classroom.

33 Fire Them June 11, 2014 at 9:16 AM

I know a student at DVC that said his teacher, on the first day of class (this was about a week ago) told the entire class that she did not give a crap about what they thought about her so go ahead and complain all they want as she has tenure and cannot be fired.

Wow.

34 DMZ June 11, 2014 at 9:22 AM

AMEN!!
About time.

35 Pegasus June 11, 2014 at 9:25 AM

Hmmmm……. just thinking here……. it seems that without tenure a teacher must continually endeavor to maintain the high standard of performance expected of someone entrusted with the education of our children.
And lest we forget….THAT’S WHY WE PAY THEM.
Substandard teachers must SHAPE UP OR SHIP OUT!

36 Anonymous June 11, 2014 at 9:30 AM

This does not mean a teacher gets fired because a parent is mad at him. There is a due process procedure for every other public employee, which will apply to teachers.
Teachers are now under the same protections as Police Officers, who you don’t hear complaining about being fired without due cause.

37 Cat Wrangler June 11, 2014 at 10:58 AM

@ Walter White – I thought your wife was a dispatcher for a taxi company.

@ Anonymous post #36 – I agree with you. Sad to see that teachers are taking the court ruling as a litmus test on all teachers instead of the remedy it may provide for removal of bad apple teachers that only sully the rest who sacrifice their own life, time and personal resources to be life-changing inspirations.

38 Connie Dobbs June 11, 2014 at 11:15 AM

#25 Welcome to the working world, where good people are sometimes fired for not fitting in with the corporate culture, or because the boss’ nephew wants a job.

39 Mamatosix June 11, 2014 at 11:34 AM

This is the best news I could have heard.
Time for teachers to be hired and retained based on their ability, willingness to do their job and performance.
There are scores of great people waiting to truly educate our children and many already doing just that. Time to drop the dead weight.
YAY

40 ..... June 11, 2014 at 12:09 PM

@barbosa #10…

Kindergarten teachers are the foundation of modern civilization?

“Inherent right as academicians to mold young minds…?”

What kinda crack are YOU smoking? Sound like you should go back to school to learn about rights and responsibilities….

There is absolutely no benefit to tenure. If you can’/won’t do the job for which you were hired, the it’s time for you to go.

Welcome to the real world and get the silver spoon out of your mouth.

41 Random Task June 11, 2014 at 12:19 PM

well obviously the schools are garbage ….so why the discontent for a shakeup ….ahhh yeah that’s right the dems promised you free money and that no one could fire you after you put in some hard earned time now your lazy butt wants to picket so you can sit back down …yay…….

42 Random Task June 11, 2014 at 12:20 PM

by the way the people that will be trying to get you fired are your old dem buddies who want your job since you blew it ……..enjoy

43 GT June 11, 2014 at 12:21 PM

@#29 Even though only 5% of teachers may be categorized as “grossly ineffective”, that 5% affects the rest of the teachers and other students as well. If I taught 6th grade, and some of my students had an ineffective teacher last year in 5th grade, I now have to work harder and change up my curriculum in order to get those students caught up to the rest of the class. And now that slows down the rest of the class because I have teach things that all the students should have learned in 5th grade.

44 They work for us June 11, 2014 at 1:00 PM

Let’s not forget our tax dollars pay teachers salaries, therefore they work for us. We are their bosses ultimately. So with that said I am glad to see tenure on the way out it is an out dated way of hiring teachers. Kids of today need fresh minds, teachers that are in tune with what they need to teach and challenge our kids minds in this century. Not a babysitter for 6.5 hours a day. Sometimes you have to say enough is enough out with the old lazy do nothings.

45 Blue Fan June 11, 2014 at 1:28 PM

If you don’t clear out the dead wood you have a sick tree…which pretty much describes our public school system. Of course, you also have to kick out the students who are disruptive and aren’t there to learn. Getting rid of bad teachers will go a long way towards solving both problems.

46 Elwood June 11, 2014 at 1:41 PM

@ **** and one other

Satire is lost on some people.

47 Elwood June 11, 2014 at 1:43 PM

” only 5% of teachers may be categorized as “grossly ineffective”

Reckon that depends on who’s doing the categorizing.

I would make that number much higher.

48 huh? June 11, 2014 at 2:38 PM

should have been a ruling long ago….too late for my two kids that suffered with poor teachers…finished HS at a private school and graduated with honors…

49 Way more than 5% June 11, 2014 at 2:50 PM

Way more than 5%. Just visit any Vallejo elementary school. I have more than one friend who interacts with many of the schools and many classrooms are out of control. Teachers sit on butts collecting checks doing personal stuff. NO LESSON PLAN. Kids do as they want in classroom nobody in seats and talk like Sailors.. Most decent teachers won’t work there. This is just Vallejo. Judge is spot on. Poor areas suffer kids have all day recess (in class) don’t learn anything. Parents don’t care either unless they can sue for quick money.

I’ve seen the crap that goes on as they capture on video shown me many times. Come on, no lesson plan? If anyone thinks only 5% you’re looking in the wrong areas and why in denial. I know for a fact one has alcohol problem but untouchable this tenure thing enables them to collect a check not care about the kids or job.

I will say there are “some” decent teachers but totally out of control. Good ones, most don’t want to work there and relocate when they can. The bad teachers just come in to collect a check let the kids run wild. Way too much of this in the poorer areas. Everyone should have a lesson plan and structure or your not a teacher, you’re dead weight. :/

This day and age don’t need no unions.. Every employer desires a good work ethic which = job security as there are too many average to bad workers.. Tenure thing is abused and protects the wrong type of worker. Good workers don’t need protection, they are coveted!

50 Smart,Goodlooking&Debonaire June 11, 2014 at 3:19 PM

what the union is against, I am for. What the union is for, I am against.
Can I get a witness?

51 J June 11, 2014 at 3:23 PM

While I do see the good in being able to push out the bad teachers, the reality of the situation is that taking away Tenure will bring more political drama to schools.
You think the CVCHS Board is ridiculous now? Just wait till they decide to fire whoever they want to strengthen their pull on the Board.

This also brings up the possibility of lover wages for teachers in California. Example: A school thinks they are paying someone too much after they have been teaching for 20+ years, and because of the loss of Tenure, that teacher who has put their heart and soul into teaching for already crap wages (also receiving no retirement government assistance because they are government employees…really!?) gets pushed out for a new teacher who gets paid half the wages. Continuing the cycle to hire lower paid under experienced teachers.

Its a win-win for the schools… and the Boards pockets.

52 J June 11, 2014 at 3:25 PM

Also, if we are all so up-in-arms over teachers Tenure, why not Cops too?

Think about it.

53 so June 11, 2014 at 4:47 PM

Judges are only supposed to implement law, not rewrite it.

Teachers were promised permanent tenure by the school in exchange for X.

That is a contract. Breaking the contract entitles the injured party to damages. If I was fired as a tenured teacher, I would bring a civil suit for all the future years of pay and benefits I lost that I was supposed to have had through the promise of tenure.

Taking tenure away from existing teachers is like taking retirement away from existing workers. Wait, they did that already.

Do contracts mean nothing anymore?

54 led June 11, 2014 at 5:40 PM

The decision doesn’t say tenure itself is unconstitutional. It says that it needs to be awarded after more of a reasonable time period – not after 18 months! And it says there needs to be an actually viable way to fire incompetent teachers for cause. As it stands tenure basically means you will never be fired; that’s not what tenure is supposed to be: there simply has to be a due process but workable way to weed out the really bad cases. Anonymous at 9:30 above is correct: there will still be a process to show evidence of cause, and a process to appeal. But it has to be workable. The decision is interesting to read on that score: even if 3% of teachers are incompetent, less than .008% are terminated. (I’m going by memory here…) Anyway, something is rotten. Read the decision: it is not long and much more informative than these news pieces.

55 RanchgirlCA June 11, 2014 at 5:56 PM

It’s time for crappy teachers to be held accountable. Teaching is a very important job. About freaking time.

56 Tenured Pittsburg Teacher June 11, 2014 at 6:14 PM

@C***y Dobbs, hey girl! Thanks for the shout out.

There are plenty of crummy teachers who are comfortable being tenured and know that they won’t be fired. In my experience, the worst thing that can happen to them is being transferred to another school site in the district. There was a teacher in my former district who was habitually absent without leaving a lesson plan (maybe 1/4 of the school year), reeked of booze, and was missing teeth (prescription drug abuse, I heard). He was transferred to a position where the administration expected he wouldn’t be able to do as much damage. So yeah, I understand why tenure is perceived negatively by many people. Others say tenure is necessary because the teaching profession is overtly political and, as mentioned before, the step and column pay scale means that experienced teachers can cost a district almost twice as much as a new teacher. There is a fear of districts firing experienced teachers in favor of new teachers who come at a much lower price. Do I care? Not really. Believe it or not, I’ve never had difficulty finding a job. If I had to go elsewhere, I would.

57 Spanky Fortuna June 11, 2014 at 6:20 PM

Productive teachers don’t need to worry. Maybe we should pay higher salaries to attract better people.

58 Anon June 11, 2014 at 8:34 PM

If George is for it, it must be bad.

59 @Spanky Fortuna and @eat food June 11, 2014 at 10:14 PM

I am a teacher, and you’re right… No productive or good teacher would have an issue with this. I support it 100% – I am embarrassed by some of the teachers in my district because I work extremely hard to do my job the way I would expect it to be done for my child, and I see some teachers not take it seriously at all and make a mockery of a job that I love. Just as many of you said that you don’t have a job with tenure, you also don’t have a job where customers (aka parents) can try and tell you how to do your job and doubt (publicly) your abilities – we are under constant scrutiny and if it were always done by intelligent, competent people, I would have no problem with it, but unfortunately many complaints are from parents who are not that and that can be discouraging to teachers who are doing everything they can to be the best they can be and it’s never good enough. We just need to be careful who we give control to – CVCHS has no tenure and some amazing teachers are shaking in their boots because they had the audacity to be advocates for themselves and their students. Power in the wrong hands can be detrimental.

60 Pro Fi June 11, 2014 at 10:15 PM

@ They work for us….

Because you pay taxes I work for you??? Guess what, it is that attitude that instills a sense of privilege in parents and students today. Learning takes place in and out of the classroom. Parental support for academics is just as important. How about teaching your kids not to text in class? Or demand an inflated grade for sub-par work?

And FYI…. You are not the only one who pays for teacher salaries. In no other occupation, that I am aware of does an employee actually contribute to their own salaries. This may shock you… but teachers pay taxes too.

61 Connie Dobbs June 11, 2014 at 10:37 PM

My, you do have a way with a turn of phrase. How dainty and feminine you are. Your students must admire you so.

62 Anonymous June 11, 2014 at 10:40 PM

Again: teachers are not losing due process protections , they are just going to be treated like other civil servants. Any District that tried firing older teachers to save money would be in big Federsl trouble.

Still waiting to see what Bonilla ,the teachers union sock puppet, has to say.

63 Connie Dobbs June 11, 2014 at 11:03 PM

“Believe it or not, I’ve never had difficulty finding a job. If I had to go elsewhere, I would.”

Oh, you may start having difficulty. You have the impulse control of a preadolescent. Wouldn’t it be amusing if I were the parent of your favorite student, or a school board member. I wonder if they might somehow be made aware of how you represent your district here. But I suppose it would be impossible for anyone to identify a 12th grade English teacher at any of the high schools in Pittsburg.

64 Pittsburg Teacher June 12, 2014 at 1:12 AM

@Connie
It wouldn’t be impossible. There are approximately 25 of us. They do like to switch us around a bit from grade level to grade level. The strange thing is, I’ll bet if you have K-12 students you are super involved (when you’re not occupied with Claycord). I wish that more of my students’ parents did call me. Alas, parent involvement, especially at the secondary level, is lacking in PUSD. It would be super amusing if you were a school board member, but you are not. Unless you are the one female board member, but that’s incredibly unlikely. Either way, I am not threatened. You might not like me, and that’s fine. However, I work as hard as any dedicated teacher to show my students I care, plan engaging standards-based lessons, collaborate with my colleagues, and communicate with families. Everyone in my personal and work life knows that I don’t take myself too seriously and that I am opinionated. None of them hassle me about it. So if this was tl; dr, here’s a summary: you don’t scare me. I’m not going anywhere unless I choose to do so.

65 Silva June 12, 2014 at 6:54 AM

Yep, that’s the vocabulary commonly heard in Acalanes H. S.! Just not by tenured teachers. You may be off-duty, but it is a very public blog. And off-duty still counts.

66 Mom to Four June 12, 2014 at 11:43 AM

Thank You! My son had two truly horrible teachers in the Walnut Creek School District. They should not be allowed near kids.

67 Connie Dobbs June 12, 2014 at 12:37 PM

I’m just observing that borderline personality does not improve with age, that’s all.

68 Connie Dobbs June 12, 2014 at 12:53 PM

Wait. There’s 25 of you, and all of you were in HS yourselves twenty years ago? All of you have your charming personality? All 25 of you slander your fellow professionals, implicate former employers as criminally negligent, and respond to civilly-worded criticism from a lady with language that would embarrass a longshoreman? Well, then. I suppose I have learned something from you, at that.

69 Idiocracy June 12, 2014 at 2:22 PM

I attended a lot of schools around here, um they suck period. When being “popular” and a great “Jock” is more important and more rewarded than being smart then you get the product of lazy/violent man children you keep seeing in the news. It really falls on parenting, basic values. You also have to factor in overpopulation. More students and less qualified teachers are also the issue.

70 Pittsburg Teacher June 12, 2014 at 3:11 PM

@Connie
Exactly. You know, I could “I gotcha” on your use of the word slander when I’m pretty sure you meant to accuse me of libel, but I don’t really care. In the modified words of the great Jay Z, I’ve got 99 problems but a sassy lady on Claycord ain’t one. I’m taking my ball and going home.

Separately, I must say that I love working in Pittsburg. I was hesitant at first because I was largely unfamiliar with East County, but my concerns were unfounded. While there are things and people that annoy me from time to time, I’ll bet that every district has its pros and cons. One thing I appreciate about Pittsburg is that they have a clear vision that is focused on student achievement and they push the teachers to continue to develop professionally (instructional rounds, lesson studies, paid professional development, and so on). People can say what they want about Pittsburg schools, teachers, students, etc. However, many of the people that speak the loudest know almost nothing about PUSD and the good work we’re doing. I’ll be curious too see how the recent ruling affects tenure, the teaching profession and schools.

71 Connie Dobbs June 12, 2014 at 10:33 PM

I accept your apology.

72 Pittsburg Teacher June 12, 2014 at 10:58 PM

I accept yours as well, Connie. It’s been real.

73 Pegasus June 13, 2014 at 7:05 AM

Oh wow….. chick fight! My money’s on the welder.

74 Yaz June 13, 2014 at 7:32 AM

Let’s not forget that lack of school funding, in addition, to ineffective tenured teachers greatly affects our students and schools. The issue is multifaceted. Everything won’t be resolved by simply getting rid of the “dead wood.” Our society has failed to prioritize education for many years. As such, we will need to do a lot of work to get our schools and students back to a competitive level and succeeding.

75 Yaz June 13, 2014 at 7:33 AM

Did we forget that lack of school funding, in addition, to ineffective tenured teachers greatly affects our students and schools. The issue is multifaceted. Everything won’t be resolved by simply getting rid of the “dead wood.” Our society has failed to prioritize education for many years. As such, we will need to do a lot of work to get our schools and students back to a competitive level and succeeding.

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