High School Football Star Kahlil McKenzie Transferring from DLS to CVCHS

June 10, 2014 12:01 pm · 205 comments

De La Salle High School football star Kahlil McKenzie (son of Oakland Raiders General Manager Reggie McKenzie) announced on his Twitter account this week that he will be transferring from De La Salle High school to go play football at Clayton Valley Charter High School.

“Transferring from De La Salle going to CVCHS family decision not answering any questions about it but I’m a Ugly Eagle”, McKenzie said.

No word yet on if McKenzie was immediately accepted or if he was on the rumored waiting list to get into CVCHS.

The 6’4″, 330-pound McKenzie will be a senior this year.

{ 205 comments }

1 ncs ruling June 10, 2014 at 12:00 PM

Is he going to sit out the next season of sports, which is football, like any other transfer student within the ncs or does he get preferential treatment?

2 Momo June 10, 2014 at 12:04 PM

Less competition at cvchs so he’ll get more playing time I’m sure. Smart move if that’s the reason

3 Rollo Tomasi June 10, 2014 at 12:09 PM

@#3

He’s already a Blue Chip recruit headed to a Division 1 college football program. He would star at any high school in the country. Maybe the McKenzies are tired of the Catholic curriculum at DLS.

4 Killjoy June 10, 2014 at 12:09 PM

He better stay away from my daughter!!!!!

5 What the frack? June 10, 2014 at 12:09 PM

So football coach Tim Murphy wasn’t one of the coaches rumored to have quit after Pat Middendorf was fired? I guess he wouldn’t feel loyal to her because he was hired in after it became a charter.

6 Miss Ranchogirl June 10, 2014 at 12:16 PM

LOL @Killjoy
same here

7 just me June 10, 2014 at 12:17 PM

@NCS ruling if I am not mistaken there is no rules on transferring high schools. If you transfer in NCAA yes you have to sit out a year unless you’re a graduating Senior and transfer for a Masters program your current school doesn’t offer. (Aaron Birght transferring from Stanford to SMC for basketball)

8 2020 NCS Vision June 10, 2014 at 12:25 PM

Sheeeeeeeeew we were worried that Kahlil would not make it through the mandatory lottery that every student from outside the area has to go through. I am sure there wasn’t any pre enrollment contact by the charter after Kahlil tweeted he was leaving DLS. But make sure you don’t ask any questions.

9 Tom June 10, 2014 at 12:29 PM

What ever happened to attending school in your own neighborhood?

10 @nce ruling June 10, 2014 at 12:30 PM

Here is the NCS site with the rules on transferring. Good luck figuring it out.

http://www.cifncs.org/eligibility_bylaws/index.php

11 Cowellian June 10, 2014 at 12:33 PM

I thought DLS was the school always being accused of recruiting.

12 Marissa June 10, 2014 at 12:43 PM

This aught to pump up the volume for the eagles. Way to go eagles!

13 annon June 10, 2014 at 12:44 PM

Goes straight to the top of the waiting list.

14 Sooth Sayer June 10, 2014 at 12:48 PM

Kinda like being traded from the 49ers to the Raiders. ;-) I hope the kid is doing it for the right reasons and is getting good counsel.

I hate to see football parents (looking at you Joe Montana) or any “sports first” parent, bounce their kid around from school to school because they think the coach is more important than the teachers and the academics.

15 Overwhelmed June 10, 2014 at 12:59 PM

because he is a huge football player he gets to transfer to cvchs? so the door is open to inner district transfers now? What about the kid who goes to mt. diablo and wants to go to clayton valley? are they going to let him? if not I think I would raise a really big stink.

16 Elwood June 10, 2014 at 1:02 PM

Could it be the $15k annual tuition at DLS?

17 Anon June 10, 2014 at 1:20 PM

We don’t know the details here. Perhaps he was on the lottery and made it in then announced. I don’t think we should accuse without knowing the facts. I would think that if he does not live within the boundries and was pushed ahead of others just because of his football someone will find out!

18 Green June 10, 2014 at 1:22 PM

There is a list of reasons you can transfer for. Just to play football is not one of them. This is the son of Raiders GM Reggie McKenzie.
As far as lottery goes, the player who was expelled from Pittsburg after accusations of having a gun on campus for right into that exclusive charter.

19 Mr. Pink June 10, 2014 at 1:22 PM

Ha! Good one, Cowellian.

Yes, I’m sure it has something to do either with playing time or he was going to get bounced because of his grades, so he’s turning it around to say that he’s made the decision to leave.

20 Green June 10, 2014 at 1:24 PM

There is a list of reasons you can transfer for. Just to play football is not one of them. This is the son of Raiders GM Reggie McKenzie.
As far as lottery goes, the player who was expelled from Pittsburg after accusations of having a gun on campus got right into that exclusive charter.

21 Green June 10, 2014 at 1:28 PM

And to the comment about this should pump up the volume for the eagles: how about how this turns up the heat on the eagles even more?
How do these kids get right into this exclusive lottery moderated school??
And how does the enrollment happen to stay just below the Division 1 cutoff line so the school stays in D2??
Questions that need to be addressed by the NCS immediately!

22 Want Answers June 10, 2014 at 1:30 PM

All suspicious when everyone is suppose to play by the same rules.

23 Judge Roy Bean June 10, 2014 at 1:32 PM

Something smells rotten in Denmark…is that fish or egg?
& DLS gets accused of recruiting. Looks like this needs to be looked at by the NCS. The kid is a four star recruit and has some dozen offers to D1 Colleges. Could be he wants to take a break and cruse out his senior year.

24 reality June 10, 2014 at 1:44 PM

I know for a fact that football talent gets you into CVCHS in front of those waiting in line. I know it for a fact. There are kids on that football team right now that never waited in line. Once their ability on the field was verified, they received a class schedule.

Fact.

25 @Sooth Sayer June 10, 2014 at 1:48 PM

I feel sorry for the kid. This will be his third school in three years. What a come down to go from De La Salle to Clayton Valley. He’s a top player going from one of the best football schools in the country with well-regarded academics to a mediocre public school. I know Clayton Valley has dreams of becoming a powerhouse sports school, but let’s be honest, they’re not anywhere near there yet. Plus they’ve got so much turmoil over there right now with the sports faction up in arms over Middendorf’s firing and the teachers up in arms over the Executive Director’s belief that teachers are a dime a dozen and shouldn’t have any say in what goes on at the school as well as the vicious infighting on the governing board. One faction on the governing board is planning on kicking another board member off the board at tomorrow’s board meeting. Parents are angry. Students are upset. What a nightmare.

26 CP Fan June 10, 2014 at 1:50 PM

CV just got CP’s best running back this spring before school was out so the new “recruit” could get his grades up for eligibility. CVCHS is making a pretty good haul. Damn, those football players are really winning that “lottery” over there. They should probably go Vegas.

27 Want Answers June 10, 2014 at 1:53 PM

CP Fan is exactly correct

28 Mr. Pink June 10, 2014 at 1:55 PM

Agree with #25. Sad that this is his 3rd school. Clearly the education is not first on his family’s list of priorities. They’re banking on his football career. Not that CVCHS is bad from an education standpoint, I have no idea. But given the background sports would seem the obvious reason.

29 @Green June 10, 2014 at 1:57 PM

Clayton Valley has always had a lot of kids from Pittsburg. It’s an easy commute over the hill. When my kids were at CVHS, they knew of a lot of kids who cheated on their residency to attend CVHS. They were the ones who were the worst troublemakers. Now they can get in with the lottery if lying about residency doesn’t to work. Where do you think all those lottery kids are coming from?

30 Sooth Sayer June 10, 2014 at 2:05 PM

@25 like I said, its like going from the 49ers to the Raiders. :-)

31 GD98 June 10, 2014 at 2:10 PM

Unless his parents are planning on taking NCS to court over the transfer rules this kid is out for a minimum of five games.

Best of luck to him.

32 TJ June 10, 2014 at 2:12 PM

Recruitment? Gee…. DO YOU THINK? Not surprising considering that CVCHS is grasping at every straw to try to get notoriety for their school. Maybe you CVCHS fans should think twice when you accuse DLS of recruiting eh?

33 2020 NCS Vision June 10, 2014 at 2:14 PM

Calm down everyone. I am sure our charter has an explanation for all of these points. It just looks fishy. And make sure you don’t ask any questions on why all of these elite football players get into our charter before some other deserving students in the fair lottery.

34 Commuter Guy June 10, 2014 at 2:19 PM

Don’t we all just love to hate? We want to bash the football player, the school, the coaches, and make all kinds of assertions and assumptions without knowing a thing about the circumstances. Let the kid transfer schools already; students change schools all the time and some are gifted athletes and some are not. Success breeds success, and there’s no doubt that other kids will want to transfer to Clayton just like DLS because they want to be around success. If Concord or College Park began to have success in their sports programs, we’d hear all about their “recruiting” efforts too. Now let’s all go back to worrying about more important things.

35 SITOUT June 10, 2014 at 2:27 PM

Sit out is 30 days for a transfer now.

36 GD98 June 10, 2014 at 2:32 PM

As an addendum the only reason this is his third school is because the family moved from Green Bay.

I’d also find it really hard to believe Murphy poached him from DLS. CV just happens to be the next best program in the area.

37 Carroll June 10, 2014 at 2:51 PM

Not sure about this year, but in prior years the lottery was done separately for each grade level, and then they decide how many of each grade level to let in. While there are lots of 9th graders on the wait list, and maybe a couple of 10th graders on a separate list, he is probably the only senior.

38 @Commuter Guy June 10, 2014 at 2:57 PM

No, we wouldn’t hear about Concord or College Park recruiting players because they can only take players that reside within their boundaries. Clayton Valley is a charter school so they can take kids who live anywhere.

Transferring because you’ve got a problem with the sports program at your old school is against NCS rules. Transferring because you think the sports program is better at a different school is also against NCS rules. You can’t transfer because of sports. Those are the rules.

39 2020 NCS Vision June 10, 2014 at 3:03 PM

@Commuter Guy. I agree. I don’t like rules either. Lets teach these young men that you don’t have to go by any these dumb rules that are already in place by the NCS/CIF. I also agree that CP and Concord don’t have successful programs so who cares about them. I only care that my charter becomes a football power.

40 Mary Fouts June 10, 2014 at 3:10 PM

@Sooth Sayer – Completely agree; well said. I also might add that he is … well .. a big boy at a young age. At 330 lbs before he is a senior? Hope he doesn’t continue to pile the lbs on.

41 Rollo Tomasi June 10, 2014 at 3:20 PM

I don’t believe DLS recruits players. I also don’t believe the family of every kid in that school can afford the tuition. Somehow it gets cheaper if you’re a good athlete. I sure hope they give scholarships for band and academics as well.

42 Charles-the-cat June 10, 2014 at 3:26 PM

@GD98, thanks for pointing out that the “third school” complaint is utterly misleading. Being new to the area, the family probably heard all about what a great sports school DLS was, so that was a reasonable choice. I don’t think anything is very odd about the family deciding after a year that this wasn’t the right school for their son. I’ve known kids who’ve thrived at DLS but I’ve known others who were very unhappy there (true of every school of course). Again, nothing very odd. It’s depressing how nasty some of these comments are when they’re indirectly aimed at a kid (yes, he’s big, but he’s still a kid).

43 GD98 June 10, 2014 at 3:58 PM

@42-

Thanks, every now and then I like to help out the few who aren’t here to bash anything that moves. There really is nothing crazy about this story at all, DLS isn’t for every family out there. The McKenzie’s also have a younger son who was a freshman, and I assume his three remaining years of high school were also taken into account.

I hope all parties involved have continued success next season.

44 Mark June 10, 2014 at 4:02 PM

And this is news because??

45 The Mamba June 10, 2014 at 4:05 PM

Smart kid, getting away from that sinking ship.

46 Judge Roy Bean June 10, 2014 at 4:05 PM

Campo and Acalanes are in a state of shock. The kid resides in Lafayette.

47 Long Commute June 10, 2014 at 4:50 PM

@ CommuteConcord and College Park have both had enormous amounts of athletic success they just don’t print up tshirts and stickers every time they win something. Concord football softball and mens basketball are all top flight plublic programs as well as CP basketball and baseball. What those school can’t do is get in any kid that wants in even ones with gun charges pending. What those schools won’t do is hire coahces known for recruiting and who have served penalties for it. I guess the coaches there know what everyone else has always known…clayton kids cant win without some help from the surrounding communities.

48 2020 NCS Vision June 10, 2014 at 4:53 PM

@Charles-the-cat I think people have had more nasty things to say about our charter than all of these football players transferring in unfairly.

49 Jojo potato June 10, 2014 at 5:05 PM

You bunch of morons! School should be about education, not future earning potential as an athlete. I feel very sad for this boy carrying such a load of family greed. Sigh

50 Want Answers June 10, 2014 at 5:07 PM

@Commuter Guy. Check the sports at concord and college park. They win championships too. It’s not like CVCHS some dynasty school.
Very misinformed post guy.

51 Want Answers June 10, 2014 at 5:12 PM

GD98- not hard to be a good football program when u can pull kids from all over. But then play against schools that have restricted boundaries.
This is just another shining example. Maybe some of their other sports should recruit like football at CV

52 bumper morgan June 10, 2014 at 5:14 PM

A high school kid, who cares….

53 A June 10, 2014 at 5:22 PM

I saw him when he went into the office, and he definitely wasn’t immediately accepted. His family looked nervous.

54 Atticus Thraxx June 10, 2014 at 5:35 PM

6′ 4 ” 330 lbs as a high school senior. Jesus. You could go broke just trying to feed the kid. I remember watching his pops play.

55 about that kid with gun charges June 10, 2014 at 5:42 PM

I’m the past year the Pittsburg kid with pending gun charges, that transferred to CVCHS and played football, received alot of attention. People rely on his story to exemplify what is wrong with the charter. So I ask, is he better as a result of attending CVHS? Is he exposed to better situations? Will he have a better future? If the answer is yes to any of the questions, it’s time to stop using him as a negative point.
To the kid and his family….welcome to CVCHS, you are going to love it here…PS…please stay away from my daughter..haaaaaaaa, haaaaaaaa.

56 Connie Dobbs June 10, 2014 at 5:50 PM

I agree with you about the sports thing, jojo, but high school is in fact about future earning potential.

57 C June 10, 2014 at 5:57 PM

DLS is full of scumbags. Good for him.

58 2020 NCS Vision June 10, 2014 at 6:53 PM

@ about the kid with the gun charges, I agree. People get caught up in all of these dumb rules. What is wrong with a person brandishing a firearm on another campus coming to our charter? as long as he can help us win some ballgames.

59 NCAA, June 10, 2014 at 7:13 PM

Coach Murphy of Clayton Valley Charter high School took his football team to DVC last week and had his team scrimmage in 7 on 7 vs DVC’s football team. Both Coaching staffs are in major violation of CIF/NCS and NCAA rules.

60 Jake from State Farm June 10, 2014 at 7:30 PM

Just started my shift. You guys are hideous.

61 Aspirin June 10, 2014 at 7:32 PM

Most important question: What is his GPA?

62 Want Answers June 10, 2014 at 8:03 PM

And for more news on CVCHS the board is voting to remove the Board Chairman. That school is awesome! Just remove the people you don’t like, and recruit and let in the people you do like with no regards to rules!
PERFECT

63 LiBonneRN.edu June 10, 2014 at 8:15 PM

Uh-oh…not a great move, there, punkin’. Unless you really are a blue chip, then do whatever you want. Can’t see any other reason to downgrade.

64 DLS Grad June 10, 2014 at 8:57 PM

@C Spoken like a true Concord High loser. I’ll see you next week at the McDonalds drive thru window. Don’t forget my extra ketchup again! idiot.

65 Concord Guy June 10, 2014 at 9:02 PM

Sentences that end in prepositions make me crazy…

66 ConMom June 10, 2014 at 9:11 PM

Does this young man live in the CVCHS attendance area?

67 Want Answers June 10, 2014 at 9:31 PM

No

68 2020 NCS Vision June 10, 2014 at 9:37 PM

@Want Answers We got him past our lottery so he has to live in our CVC area. That is our policy.

69 mika June 10, 2014 at 9:39 PM

With all this attention, CVHS would be stupid to do anything underhanded. All eyes are watching!

70 @NCAA 59 June 10, 2014 at 9:42 PM

Is someone reporting this to NCS? It doesn’t do any good to complain about illegal scrimmages here.

71 GD98 June 10, 2014 at 9:45 PM

@ Want Answers-

Do you have a question? It’s hard to answer statements.

72 2020 NCS Vision June 10, 2014 at 9:46 PM

@mika that is why we are one step ahead of everyone. if you do not agree with what our charter is doing we will vote you out. you will see at our board meeting tomorrow night.

73 C June 10, 2014 at 9:50 PM

DLS grad, assumptions make you an idiot. Represent.

74 Haha idiots June 10, 2014 at 10:16 PM

Who says the kid even has to enter the lottery? I mean his dad is gm of the oakland raiders. I think he has enough scratch to buy a condo for jr to live in thats in CVCHS attendance area. No lottery needed at that point. And to imply this family is needing money this kid may make is foolish.

75 Disappointed Parent June 11, 2014 at 12:05 AM

Oh, Mika. Never underestimate the stupidity of the people running Clayton Valley. They took a decent public high school and turned it into a train wreck. Teachers are at war with teachers. Parents and students are picking sides. The governing board is so inept that members are resorting to trying it kick other members off the board to get their way. Rumors are flying about mismanagement by the executive director.

How stupid are the people running CVCHS? Let me give you an example. The teachers converted the school to a charter because they were sick of administrators making all the decisions and telling them what to do. They had a vision for managing the school through committees of stakeholders that included teachers, parents and students that would make the decisions. They talked about it in rallies and meetings. They wrote it into the charter documents that govern the school. But they are so stupid….. That they hired an executive director (David Linzey) who had published an article in which he stated teachers should not be allowed a voice in how to improve their school. The decisions should be made by those in charge and imposed on the teachers and the school. All the Clayton Valley teachers and parents had to do was do an online search on this guy and they would have found this article. They would have known his vision of how to run a school didn’t match their vision.

http://www.edweek.org/ew/articles/2010/05/24/33linzey.h29.html?tkn=WWMFWHDjJX2QXC5pycNqI9EayyE3Al9K3JAE&print=1

As for Executive Director David Linzey, he is so stupid…. That he thought he could come in to Clayton Valley and impose the same system he used at a chain of non-union Los Angeles charter schools that were formed to educate poor, inner city, minority students. If he had done any research into the history of Clayton Valley, he would have known that he would run into a buzz saw here. He completely ignored a whole host of significant facts. First, the teachers and a number of parents turned the school into a charter because THEY wanted to be the decision makers, while his system depends on imposing his system and not allowing teachers or parents to have any significant say. Second, he ignored the fact that in LA he was dealing with non-union teachers, so it was easy to force them to go along or kick them to the curb. That’s not the case at CV and the teachers are rebelling. Third, CV is a middle class, neighborhood school, not an inner city school serving poor 100% minority students. Our challenges are not the same. Our parents are not all jumping on the Linzey bandwagon.

Last month hundreds of outraged parents came to the governing board meeting and heard the governing board announce they were firing Pat Middendorf, the teacher who led the movement to convert to a charter school, and kicking her off the governing board. Tomorrow the governing board is going to attempt to kick another person off the board. What a disgrace. That’s no way to run a school.

76 bigdaddy June 11, 2014 at 6:53 AM

cvhs has not broke any rules……
for those that dont like what they are doing, dont send your kids to cvhs. there are lots of options for parents in cc county.

77 2020 NCS Vision June 11, 2014 at 8:24 AM

@bigdaddy finally another person I can agree with. If you do not like what is going on with our charter then leave. It does not matter that you live here. Or we will vote you off like we will do tonight. You are either with us or you are against us.

78 Joe C. June 11, 2014 at 8:57 AM

Jeez. Amazing how a high school kid transitioning to another local school gathers so much “negative” posts about both schools, coaches, administration, process, reasons why we left, etc…..? Regardless of whether or not he’s an athlete, kids transfer from schools from time to time – for many reasons and it’s a personal decision. He’s on record, along w/ DLS coaches, w/ a “no comment” on why. So, unless we know any of the reason/s or circumstances as to “why” then save the speculation and negative comments. He is a kid, comes from a good family….so let it rest. Sad that nowadays we don’t give anyone the benefit of the doubt on decision making and 1st inclination is negative. If this kid is on the band team, no one cares. Sad.

79 bigdaddy June 11, 2014 at 9:37 AM

i like what david lindzy is doing. cvhs is a much better enviornment now. the school has been cleaned up. students are happy. test scores are way up. athletics are doing well. no fights on campus. un happy parents should take their kids somewhere else in the mdusd, or pay for a private school. there are lots of options…..
any one remember what cvhs looked like 3 years ago??? broken glass everywhere….old paint. dead grass. grafitti all over the walls….
drive by cvhs today. it looks nice. and the cvhs football team is going to steam roll other teams next year!!!!

80 chs alum June 11, 2014 at 10:01 AM

CV Has improved a lot… Just seems like they are having their share of problems.

81 Football Mom June 11, 2014 at 10:46 AM

Hopefully the NCS and DVAL enforce the rules that they have implemented in regards to transfers and what is legal or not. That goes for any kid and any school in our district. Contact info for NCS is at http://www.cifncs.org/ and the DVAL website is http://www.diabloval.com/contact. Concerned parents need to reach out to both organizations. Unfortunately the NCS does not list email contact information for Gil Lemmon only a ph#. At least you can email the DVAL with concerns.

82 Con Mom June 11, 2014 at 11:35 AM

@bigdaddy, you’re right. The campus looks fantastic. Don’t get too excited though, they just fired Pat Middendorf ( director of operations) who made that happen.

83 Mr. Pink June 11, 2014 at 12:13 PM

A DLS student told me that McKenzie hated the coaches at DLS. Not sure how much truth there is to it but that could be a possible reason for the transfer.

84 Gregory June 11, 2014 at 12:41 PM

DLS is unstoppable.
Lets be honest – CVCHS is a drama filled mess that is trying to pose as an ‘elite’ school, which it clearly is not (nor will it be if they don’t work out all of the issues they seem to have).
For them to try to even compare themselves to DLS shows how ridiculously out of touch they are in general.

Here’s a thought: why not be the best school you can be WITHOUT trying to compete with DLS, Northgate or any other school?

Essentially – CVCHS is the little kid on the playground that gets picked on and is trying to compete with the big kids.

85 2020 NCS Vision June 11, 2014 at 12:42 PM

@Mr. Pink that would be against those dumb rules in place by the CIF/NCS. You must have got the wrong info from that DLS student.

86 @2020 NCS Vision June 11, 2014 at 12:46 PM

#77 –
keep dreaming buddy! NCS? haa! thanks for the laugh.

87 NCAA, June 11, 2014 at 1:55 PM

Khalil McKenzie will be transferring to Bishop O’Dowd next week.

88 Judge Roy Bean June 11, 2014 at 2:25 PM

Player in question residence is in Lamorinda area.
Now the DVC scrim with CVHSC seems highly suspect.
Coaches at CV think they rule the school…CV is in over there head unless the board and director / president of CV get a grip.

89 Long Commute June 11, 2014 at 2:27 PM

Football Mom

Who can we email about our daughter not being admitted because we didnt make the lottery/cut-off?

90 SITOUT June 11, 2014 at 2:50 PM

What is this about a DVC Scrimmage?

91 NCAA, June 11, 2014 at 2:50 PM

2007 Clovis Football Coach Tim Murphy received a 4 game suspension for illegally recruiting a 7th grader

92 Anon2you June 11, 2014 at 3:31 PM

@Long Commute – Well if she is HOT try the Cheerleader Coach…

93 2020 NCS Vision June 11, 2014 at 3:51 PM

@NCAA there is no way our charter would have hired him if that is true.

94 Want Answers June 11, 2014 at 3:55 PM

Cv went to DVC and had a 7on7 scrimmage.

95 bigdaddy June 11, 2014 at 4:17 PM

at 84…greg, no one is comparing cvhs to dls…..or NG to dls
dls and carondolet are not free of issues either…
dls cost 16k a year and it is worth it if you can afford it. it is a great school with a great reputation…..
all schools have issues. cvhs is going through some growing pains right now.
i remember a few months back for black history month dls didnt have such a great menu for lunch?

96 Want Answers June 11, 2014 at 4:27 PM

Hey BIG DADDY- might wanna start doing some background research on your school and football program.

97 Want Answers June 11, 2014 at 4:36 PM

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA super menu fail!

98 NCAA, June 11, 2014 at 4:42 PM

Last week Coach Murphy and his staff took the Clayton Valley Charter football team to DVC and scrimmaged in a 7 on 7 vs DVC’s Football team. It’s a major violation of CIF/NCS and NCAA rules. Both teams were wearing their schools 7 on 7 uniforms while scrimmaging. Clayton Valley Charter players were wearing the same uniforms they wore in the 7 on 7 tournament for high schools at Laney Junior College Saturday 6/7/14

99 2020 NCS Vision June 11, 2014 at 4:54 PM

@Want Answers… Me and BIG DADDY doin just fine sipping on our CVCHS Koolaid. Once we clean house at the board meeting tonight we are home free.

100 gratt June 11, 2014 at 6:49 PM

sounds like a blob

101 Kahlil June 11, 2014 at 8:16 PM

Grades is to tuff too git at LSD – sides I gonna go pro

102 2020 NCS Vision June 11, 2014 at 8:21 PM

@NCAA…There is no way a high school coach would agree to a 7 on 7 scrimmage vs a college team. You have crossed the line with this rumor….Did we win?

103 Ghoonsquad June 11, 2014 at 8:21 PM

Is coach Hamilton posting under the name “NCAA” or something here? Who really cares if they scrimmaged 7 on 7 against DVC? And for that matter who cares what they wore?

104 GD98 June 11, 2014 at 9:10 PM

@NCAA-

Why in the name of Vince Lombardi would DVC practice 7on7 with

A) A high school team?
B) A high school team that runs the double wing?

DVC usually has enough college aged guys to field two teams, so it is safe to say this rumor is more bullsh__ than anything.

105 Rollo Tomasi June 11, 2014 at 10:08 PM

@ #94:

Good. After getting torched by the CHS and Miramonte QB’s last season, the CVCHS defensive backfield needs the work.

106 NCAA, June 11, 2014 at 10:08 PM

@gd98
@goon
It’s relevant because it’s a serious violation that will most likely lead to the termination of both coaching staffs and the loss of eligibility to play high school sports again by the charter players that participated. It’s a fact that the scrimmage took place not a rumor.

107 bigdaddy June 11, 2014 at 10:30 PM

at want answers….cvhs hasnt broken any rules…and if they do or did, i am sure the ncs will figure it out….
it isnt an ncs violation for kids to tranfer to cvhs…..just as it isnt a violation for kids to transfer to dls from other high schools.
it happens here. and it happens in other states all the time. it is what it is…….

108 GD98 June 12, 2014 at 12:21 AM

@ NCAA-

Neither Coach Darr or Coach Murphy are willing to risk their jobs or their athletes eligibility for one of the most ridiculous things I’ve ever heard.

Odds are someone is EXTREMELY confused about the football skills clinic that was put on at DVC not too long ago. It wasn’t even run by DVC (Polynesian Triangle) and a number of CVC players were in attendance. As well as kids from Concord, Antioch, Pitt, etc…

109 SITOUT June 12, 2014 at 4:00 AM

http://www.kjeotv.com/scores07week0.html

Found this blurb about coach Murphy getting suspended. No mention why

110 Mom June 12, 2014 at 5:53 AM

I have read most of these posts negative and positive. My adult graduated from CVHS long before the charter. Let’s look at some of the improvements to the school, majority of physical improvements were done as Boy Scout Eagle Projects. Let’s give credit where credit is due.. I llive in the area and quit shopping at. Lucky because of students drinking in the parking lot after school (no alcohol on campus).

I have seen Ms. Middendorf in action long before the school went charter. She thought the only thing of value was the Football team. She hadn’t changed a bit. All other athletics had fund raisers. She tried to charge Marching Band to use the field. She didn’t want to follow the rules where others were volunteering to do projects. Let’s not forget the reaction to the little league this year.

Let’s stop being critical of this young man and put the blame where it belongs on the Charter School. They probably “offered” some special deal.

111 NCAA June 12, 2014 at 7:20 AM

@gd98
Both coaching staffs were on the field coaching. Both teams were in their school uniforms. The event was filmed and documented. It was a 7 on 7 scrimmage. High School athletes are not permitted to compete in any sport vs any collegiate athletes and the same rules apply to collegiate athletes vs high school athletes. The skills clinic you are referring to took place at an earlier date and did not involve any collegiate athletes vs high school athletes, that would be illegal as well had they competed. Coach Murphy had a 4 game suspension in 2007 for the recruitment of a 7th grader so your statement of not risking his job is not valid.

112 bigdaddy June 12, 2014 at 7:26 AM

and the 7 on 7 is not a padded scrimmage. its a passing league game all the high school kids can participate in…..
we were doing it 25 years ago at dvc……

113 Ghoonsquad June 12, 2014 at 8:38 AM

@NCAA/ Coach Ham

Put the Hooka down there big guy. Do you really think for a second that high school kids would lose the right to play high school sports based on what coaches did? For that matter do you think the coaches will their jobs over a “illegal” passing scrimmage? What planet do you live on coach? No wonder Concord highs team GPA is 2.0 their leader is an idiot!

114 GD98 June 12, 2014 at 9:13 AM

@ NCAA-

I’ll stand by my statement until this video pops up.

Probably won’t be holding my breath.

115 NCAA June 12, 2014 at 9:19 AM

This is not Coach Hamilton. Your comments are that of an ignorant person.

116 CVFOOTBALL? June 12, 2014 at 9:54 AM

Actually, their participation is illegal if a high school team scrimmaged a college team. There could be many different outcomes from this. Fired? Probably not, but there could be sanctions put in place by NCS or the DVAL.

117 NCAA June 12, 2014 at 9:58 AM
118 Want Answers June 12, 2014 at 10:37 AM

EVERYONE- check the NCS CIF bylaws. YOU CANNOT HOLD ANY FOOTBALL RELATED ACTIVITIES PRIOR TO THE FINAL CIF CHAMPIONSHIP CONTEST OF THE SCHOOL YEAR WHICH THIS YEAR WAS JUNE 7. Exception-10 days of spring ball with your school only and helmets, and footballs. NO PADS!
Now check when these practices and 7ons were held. The coach even added it to the CV off season cOmpetition calendar.
A MAJOR VIOLATION.
After June 7 anything goes pretty much.

119 Want Answers June 12, 2014 at 10:38 AM

GD98 you are very misinformed. These are serious allegations for CVCHS to deal with. This is not a joke.

120 bigdaddy June 12, 2014 at 11:49 AM

murphy is a great coach and runs a tight ship. he is not a moron like the bishop o dowd coach who played too many games and got the team banned from the ncs playoffs.

121 Want Answers June 12, 2014 at 12:27 PM

If he runs such a right ship he wouldn’t have been in trouble before at previous schools.
GD98 and Big Daddy please seek facts. Feelings don’t work.

122 Not a issue June 12, 2014 at 1:54 PM

Its a none issue. There were at least a dozen other teams in NCS who were doing something in terms of practices. NCS Has already dealt with issue and warnings were issued. This is just concord crying the poor us crap that pops up every football season now.

123 GD98 June 12, 2014 at 2:45 PM

@NCAA-

Thanks, your link puts me in a pickle. I played for Darr with your “source” and I trust that he wouldn’t just put that out there.

I’ll go warm up my crow.

124 Josh Van Buskirk June 12, 2014 at 2:57 PM

I remember trading in DLS’s gridiron politics for gridiron playing time at CVHS. It’s all about opportunity. Good luck to McKenzie. I hope he breaks my 16-year sack record on DLS’s back! Go Coach Murphy and the Ugly Eagles!!!

125 Want Answers June 12, 2014 at 3:43 PM

@Not An Issue- that’s funny.

126 NCAA, June 12, 2014 at 4:04 PM

@gd98
I didn’t get on this blog to be negative. I was shocked myself that the 2 staffs would participate in a 7 on 7 scrimmage. Darr and Murphy played together at DVC I believe and Darr is an original Clayton Valley grad. I don’t know if that was a factor or not. Either way the penalties are going to be harsh but justified.

127 Not a issue June 12, 2014 at 4:34 PM

@want answers……

Yeah it is funny. If Hamilton and company spent more time on their kids and less time chasing the pink elephant, and crying poor me. They may just win and in turn attract more talent. Or at the very least be able to spell football, cat and car……..just saying.

128 Want Answers June 12, 2014 at 4:45 PM

Not An Issue- you won a championship in his first year. Great job. Concord high has won plenty of games with football, baseball, and basketball. Let’s not act like the Charter is some great dynasty or something. That’s laughable. Did that get spelled right?
Rules are rules. Don’t be mad they are being brought to light. And there are MANY violations. Not just a 7on.
Nobody is crying poor me. Concord was a dropped pass away from beating the Crooked Charter. Pretty sure the coaches aren’t worried about that.

….but it would probably be nice if CVCHS best players weren’t all from other schools. “Just saying.”

129 NCAA, June 12, 2014 at 4:46 PM

Go to https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=10202193702308315&substory_index=2&id=1362082605

CIF/NCS
NCAA
GILL LEMMON
Will hand down the justified punishments

130 Want Answers June 12, 2014 at 4:47 PM

Or at the very least they had the same practice opportunities.

131 Not a issue June 12, 2014 at 4:57 PM

@NCAA/Coach Ham

As noted not a issue. Warnings were issued. And yes you are here to stir the pot and that is it. Go back and look at every single post you have, they are all about this scrimmage nothing else. Listen here chicken little there won’t be any penalties, sanctions, fired coaches, loss of eligibility, etc………and no the sky isn’t falling either.

132 Not a issue June 12, 2014 at 5:09 PM

@want answers……

Not acting like the charter is all that. Calling it like it is. Concord has been crying foul since the charter started. And let be honest here, why wouldn’t kids/parents want their kids at the charter over Concord? Better academics for one. As for not having home grown talent? Better get your fact straight bud. Yes they have had transfers but they make up a small portion of the team. And to this point best player has always been home grown. And yes they were a drop away from winning a game last year. Did it ever occur to you maybe CV just flat out overlooked concord? I mean concord lost to CP a team CV beat by what 60? Just saying. Either way it was a great HS game.

133 NCAA, June 12, 2014 at 5:29 PM

Again I’m not Coach Hamilton. I wouldn’t take credit for his success

134 GD98 June 12, 2014 at 5:39 PM

@ NCAA-

Wow. Thats all I’m left with.

135 Not a issue June 12, 2014 at 5:40 PM

Yeah I know your probably this Joan character with the FB page. A product of the cry baby Hamilton. Anyhow like I said only violation was extra practices to which at least another dozen or so schools were guilty. Warnings were issued it’s not a issue.

136 Want Answers June 12, 2014 at 5:46 PM

Not An Issue- you obviously are misinformed. Gil Lemon knows when the meeting is and it hasn’t happened.
This isn’t just a scrimmage. This is wearing pads at practice, 8 hr days at the school, playing against DVC, scrimmaging Delta Boys Ranch, etc all happening before the athletic calendar ends. Know how the athletic calendar works.all documented by the players AND the league commish himself.
GABE TAYLOR-CP
Xavier Crawford-Pitt
#1 Shane-Pitt
Protheroes- ya don’t start on that
Small portion but they were better than most of the true CV guys on the bench.
So there are some facts for you.
Clayton was terrible before Murph.

137 NCAA, June 12, 2014 at 6:45 PM

@not a issue
I would also appreciate it if you could avoid the name calling. My post have been honest, factual and informative. The links I shared support my statements. You have done nothing but criticize and name calling therefore bringing zero substance to your posts.

138 Not a issue June 12, 2014 at 8:30 PM

@wantanswers…..

Oh now it wearing pads at practice huh? That’s comedy those pics clearly show no pads. As for players the three mentioned were solid players but not the best on the team. As for Proethroes they were there before Murphy. As for CV stinking prior to coach Murphy? Not rocket science here coaches make teams not players. Again it’s been addressed and a none issue. CV wasn’t he only team in NCS doing extra practices.

139 Not a issue June 12, 2014 at 8:33 PM

@NCAA

Just calling it like I see it. You here solely to stir the pot on something that’s not a issue as stated. You try to say your not but clearly you are. Again don’t be surprised when nothing happens. It’s been addressed, nobody will be fired suspended, or eligibity will be lost.

140 Want Answers June 12, 2014 at 8:52 PM

If you don’t think this is an issue being investigated, why does the CVCHS football website’s offseason competition calendar no longer show ANY 7on7 dates before June 7???
Rest my case.

141 NCAA, June 12, 2014 at 9:12 PM

Go to
https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=863294260366820&substory_index=0&id=100000587615936

CVCHS has changed the schedule on their website in recent days but they had already made it available to the internet.

142 Not a issue June 12, 2014 at 9:33 PM

@NCAA

Again it been addressed. It’s not a issue. Schedule is changed due to said action. Nobody is losing their job, eligibility, or anything else. And no the sky isn’t falling. Again for somebody who claims to not have a agenda here you sure seem to be focused on one issue. Really it all you have been crying about.

143 NG Eyes June 12, 2014 at 10:00 PM

Not a issue – So you wouldn’t mind if your son practiced against college kids? I know that 7 on 7 scrimmages have a good amount of contact and there are plenty of opportunity for collisions when players go for the pass. Your SICK if you think this is OK. This can not be normal/ethical/legal……you don’t have an issue but I do!

144 Want Answers June 12, 2014 at 10:02 PM

Why you keep talking about the sky?
The charter is falling in perception of the public. Not the sky.

145 Rollo Tomasi June 12, 2014 at 10:37 PM

@NG Eyes:

College kids? It’s DVC. You know – 13th grade.

146 NCAA, June 12, 2014 at 10:46 PM

@u have issues
You acknowledge that the charter is in violation but it’s no big deal because other schools do it? Not knowing all of the violations is probably eating away at you because you’re on the outside living thru these posts for information. The next few days will not be over fast. You are not going to enjoy this. I will update you at the appropriate time. Please do not refer to my information as crying its not in my DNA

147 Not a issue June 12, 2014 at 11:14 PM

@NG Eyes

To be honest no I have zero problem with a 7 on 7 practice, and that in no way makes me “sick”. The fact you have issue with it is your prerogative just like its mine to not take issue. But at the end of the day our opinions really don’t matter.

148 Not a issue June 12, 2014 at 11:19 PM

@want answers

Ask your coach why I keep I talking about the sky is falling. I’m sure the book is required reading to graduate from concord high. As for the charter falling in public opinion? Sure I guess to some it may be. But to others concerned with education and things that matter like peers etc, they scramble to try and get their kids in. Can CHS, MtD, CP, YV, say the something?

149 NCAA June 13, 2014 at 5:15 AM

@u have issues
Cp can say that they are a California Distinguished School, can the charter do that? Answer: No they do not meet the test results standard.

150 bigdaddy June 13, 2014 at 7:25 AM

maybe #19 from dls will come over also!!!! go cvhs

151 JET June 13, 2014 at 7:27 AM

Dear NCAA, Not a issue and NG Eyes:

Get a room! Enough already. Take this conversation offline.

152 Haha idiots June 13, 2014 at 7:57 AM

@NCAA

At no point did I say the because other schools did it, it’s ok. Simple fact is the charter and many other schools have been out for weeks. Numerous programs were in violation of extra practice. That all I’m pointing out. As for practicing in full pads? Hasn’t happened I know that for a fact so that’s not a issue. Hoping players lose eligibility and coaches get fired is basically crying and wishful thinking. Again as noted it been addressed it’s not a issue going forward. And yes it’s clearly in you DNA to cry! It’s all you have done on this thread is cry. Topic is KMs transfer, yet you piss and moan about everything else.

153 Haha idiots June 13, 2014 at 8:10 AM

@u have issues
“Cp can say that they are a California Distinguished School, can the charter do that? Answer: No they do not meet the test results standard.”

What are you talking about? More crying from somebody saying they don’t cry. The AP tests are the same for everybody as they are handed out by the state. CV and NG tested higher than CP and CP was way higher than Concord. But again if the school is all that why are kids leaving and trying to get in the charter from over there?

154 NCAA June 13, 2014 at 9:35 AM

@idiot
Its official the charter is done. Bye Bye charter

155 Rollo Tomasi June 13, 2014 at 10:22 AM

@#154:

You must be new here. Can you cite a source to substantiate that claim? Something other than the rumor your nephew’s friend heard?

156 bigdaddy June 13, 2014 at 10:53 AM

its official…NCAA is an IDIOT

157 SITOUT June 13, 2014 at 11:10 AM

I have heard nothing official, however, I am thinking a playoff ban.

158 Haha idiots June 13, 2014 at 11:54 AM

Yep it’s official all right.

159 Haha idiots June 13, 2014 at 12:32 PM

@sitout

Your thinking or hoping? So you think NCS is going to ban every team who held extra practices who’s school year ended earlier than others? Well that one way to hope Concord becomes relevant again.

160 Rollo Tomasi June 13, 2014 at 1:34 PM

I have heard nothing official, but I’m thinking DVC is converting to an all female trade school.

161 NCAA, June 13, 2014 at 3:27 PM

@idiot with issues and others
I told you so. Cheaters always get caught and this is just the beginning.
Like a true Jedi I will return and reside in the swamps for now. See you soon

162 SITOUT June 13, 2014 at 4:03 PM

I did say thinking. When a school’s school year ends is irrelevant. The start date is set in stone every year and it is tied to the boys golf championship.

I hope all school follow the rules. But it seems some schools break more than others with more regularity.

163 Haha idiots June 13, 2014 at 5:11 PM

@NCAA

I find it funny you were crying about name calling yet now are calling people names. As I said it been dealt with.

164 Haha idiots June 13, 2014 at 5:14 PM

@sitout

As noted CV wasn’t only school in violation and to imply they cheat or have cheated more than others is foolish. No penalties have been slapped against the charter as far as I know.

165 SITOUT June 13, 2014 at 6:04 PM

I’m sorry. I never said they cheated. I didn’t say they violated rules. I said some teams do. We have seen visual evidence of cv violating a rule against scrimmaging a college team. They may, or may not have been in pads prior to the June 7th date. I know coach Murphy is a heck of a coach.

As for schools violating rules I am sure it happens. I like to think coaches break them on accident. But I also know better. If a coach has been coaching for more than a year or two, then they should know scrimmage rules and practice date rules.

166 inquiring mind June 13, 2014 at 6:54 PM

Besides the 7 on 7 violation, rumors of some out-of-boundary players transferring in without being in the lottery, there are also rumors of at least 3 incoming freshmen who were in the lottery, but did not have low numbers, i.e. they wouldn’t get in that way. Yet they are already practicing with the CV freshman football team.

And as one person mentioned high up in the comments here, it is a virtual lock that the student body enrollment, at least for the forseeable future, will NOT go above the limit which would force CV to play D1. They want to win NCS and state titles, and to have a shot they need to stay D2.

167 Not a issue June 13, 2014 at 10:02 PM

@ inquiring mind

1. The freshman team hasn’t held a practice yet so no idea where that info comes from. Just more rumor to stir the pot.
2. District squashed the expansion idea because they own the property not the charter. They wouldn’t allow any more class rooms as of yet so more students wasn’t in the cards. I don’t think they have a issue going D1 as I know expansion was what they wanted.

168 p_reign June 13, 2014 at 10:39 PM

a few comments have been suspicious about cvchs “enrollment staying just below div 1″ and “wanting to win titles at div 2″

FYI
the ncs / cif website shows cvchs (and cp) will be competing in div 1 for 2014-2015. the enrollment level for div 1 was lowered from 2k to 1,950.

169 Is the camp not open to all? June 13, 2014 at 11:16 PM

????
@ inquiring mind and not an issue
Is the freshmen camp only open to CV kids. Is it not like the DLS camp and everyone can attend. Just curious.

170 Not a issue June 14, 2014 at 12:01 AM

@is camp open to all?

I have no idea if camp is open to everybody. I do however know for a fact freshman have not started practicing.

171 Open spots June 14, 2014 at 1:15 AM

Does anyone know how CVCHS validates if a student is really going to attend. I have heard there a students who are going to private schools but have not given up their spots. Doesn’t seem fair when you have students on a waiting list.

172 freshman football June 14, 2014 at 2:15 PM

@ Not a issue,
The “voluntary” 8-wk SPARQ training for freshman football starts this Monday the 16th. The registration flyer is confusing as to whether it’s only for CVCHS, as it has a blurb about players needing medical/ins info on file “with their team”, implying they can be on another team. But then where the flyer says “who” the camp is for, it says “anybody wanting to play CV freshman football.” And I know for 100% certain there are at least two players going to this camp who were in the lottery but did not get good numbers, but they are not enrolled at the high schools in their boundary or at any other school…do not know if they are “officially” enrolled at CVCHS.

173 Not a issue June 14, 2014 at 4:49 PM

Haven’t seen flyer so can’t speak to that. Like I said I know for fact freshman haven’t practiced as of yet. I suppose if kids are on waiting list and want to play football it’s in best interest to show up. All summer practices are “optional” so I guess it’s open to anyone. Can’t quite me on that though, because I have no idea where the rule are in terms of this issue or question.

174 Want Answers June 14, 2014 at 7:31 PM

@Not An Issue-Read the comments under the Board Member Firing story. You will get your FACTS @Not An issue.

175 Way too many issues June 15, 2014 at 12:17 AM

My son was at the camp today and he said it was cool. He said the coaches were all nice but I am a little weary about him playing with all the drama going on. I see all the post about illegal games and kids who are not suppose to be there. It doesn’t seem like it is staring off right. Sounds like a bunch of adult drama. Isn’t this supposed to be about the kids?

176 Not a issue June 15, 2014 at 7:15 AM

@To many issues.

Wait lets see if I get this straight. Your kid went to “camp” had fun and coaches were nice but drama here on claycord gives you reservations about him going/playing there? Did you or he see any drama from the adults there? If so what kind of drama did you see? Do you think there won’t be drama at other schools? Is it about education or football because education wise the charter seems to be doing better than the other options available. If it’s about football then DLS would be off you list since they must have “drama” there as well since kids are leaving. Either way good luck whatever you decide but again drama is what you make it to be.

177 Football Mon June 15, 2014 at 8:08 AM

When a coach charges $125 a kid to teach incoming freshmen the game it seems to be about the money and not the kids. When a coach decides to not make cuts and carry about 100 players on his roster how does it benefit the kids. I’m sure Murphy and his staff are nice at camp because they are getting paid. This school has turned against one another over money and who is really looking out for the kids now? It’s like being in the middle of a bad divorce for these kids. When I heard about Middendorf giving the varsity softball coach the ok to kick the challenger teams off their field it also made me think they do not have kids best interest at heart. It’s just sad…

178 Not a issue June 15, 2014 at 8:36 AM

@Football Mom

What school, organization, etc, doesn’t charge for camps? If you don’t want your kid at camp don’t send him/her. It’s not mandatory so what’s your beef? As for Middendorf she was fired so again not sure what your issue is there. It would seem the charter got it right based on you complaint and her shown the door. Again nobody is claiming the charter is perfect but it seems a better option than the other choices. But again you have other choices so be thankful.

179 SITOUT June 15, 2014 at 9:05 AM

125 for the camp. What is the price to be on the team once the season starts?

180 Not a issue June 15, 2014 at 11:15 AM

There are no fees to play football at cv. That said they will do a bunch of fundraising as I understand it to offset the costs. For example charging for camps, coupon sales, etc…….but again if the cost of camp is you hang up and concern don’t go.

181 SITOUT June 15, 2014 at 12:02 PM

That is fantastic.

182 Mustang Pride June 15, 2014 at 1:41 PM

“Way too many issues” don’t get too caught up in all this I recently heard from a reliable source (one of the coaches at Concord hs), that half these posts are from Coach Hamilton. This Coach said Coach Hamilton’s life mission is to tare down the Charter and to get rid of Coach Murphy because he knows he cannot beat him or win an ncs championship as long as he is here. His own coaches assistants make fun of him behind his back and are completely sick of hearing him whine about Coach Murph. Put it this way there wouldn’t be all these kids on a waiting list to get in CV and football players knocking down the door to get in if the Charter and football program weren’t doing so many good things for kids. Your kid is in good hands. And if anyone thinks $125 for the entire summer of camp and weight training is expensive for the freshman, go look at how much DLS and other schools charge.

183 D CLEM June 15, 2014 at 2:50 PM

@mustang
I’ve been following these comments and can assure you that none of them are from Coach Hamilton. I coach at Concord and use my real name. You’re nothing but a clown. Talking about my Head Coach behind closed doors says it all. Always available D CLEM

184 SITOUT June 15, 2014 at 3:16 PM

I think concord wins dval

185 Not a issue June 15, 2014 at 5:53 PM

@D Clem

There is no D Clem listed anywhere on any of Concords staff. That includes Varsity, JV, Freshman. Nice try Hamilton.

186 D CLEM June 15, 2014 at 6:14 PM

@issue
Stop by our practice and come talk to me

187 SITOUT June 17, 2014 at 7:16 AM
188 Want Answers June 17, 2014 at 10:48 AM

Big or small, it was something.
It definitely was not “Not An Issue.”

189 Disappointed Parent June 17, 2014 at 11:09 AM

So “Not a issue” was wrong. According to the CC Times, CVCHS was penalized six practice days at the start of the year, which means they must forfeit the Honor Bowl. They are also on probation for a year. The NCS found they conducted three illegal practice sessions plus an illegal 7 on 7 scrimmage against DVC.

190 NCAA June 17, 2014 at 1:23 PM

@not an issue
@mustang pride
I gave you all facts but you were to immature and ignorant to listen.
I should be the mayor bc I can say to you
Hahahahaha

191 NCAA June 17, 2014 at 1:27 PM

@Carson
Has anyone notified Carson of CVCHS’s dishonorable violations? Hopefully they have enough time to find an honorable opponent for The Honor Bowl

192 NG Eyes June 17, 2014 at 2:25 PM

@Not A Issue and Mustang Pride
Be a sport and admit that NCAA had it correct all along(crickets, crickets). I would hope Carson has been notified by CVC.

193 Huh? June 17, 2014 at 2:31 PM

I guess only question not answered is. How did NCAA know punishment before meeting was held? Times said meeting was Monday yet NCAA was spouting off on Sunday about punishment. How can this be? Unless of course NCAA is Hamilton, he and his cronies then new how the three principles were going to vote before the meeting. I for one am fine with the punishment. What I’m not fine with is the apparent lack of integrity in said meeting or hearing. I would love to know how NCAA new punishment before meeting was held. Something there really sticks and I would assume a appeal is coming.

194 Mustang Pride June 17, 2014 at 2:31 PM

NCAA you have no credibility. Do you remember when you said dvc and cv staffs would most likely lose their jobs over this? Or about how the players were going to be ineligible for the rest of their hs career? Oh or when you said its official the charter is done? All 3 are so off its comical. Cv started practice 3 days early just like 2 other schools in the ncs. Cv posted this 2 months ago (obviously not trying to hide it). And here is another credibility breaker; Cv does not have to forfeit to Carson. With the6 days they just don’t have enough days to get the 14 practice days in before the date they play them…. Big difference between that and a forfeit. But I’m sure you have enough “maturity” to admit you were wrong though…

195 Johnny Football June 17, 2014 at 2:40 PM

“not an issue” or should I call you Charles B ‘Cat’ JV Coach at Clayton Valley… no wonder your blind to all these issues or try to defend them. Pretty Quiet lately, must have gone and seen D Clem at Concord lol

196 Huh? June 17, 2014 at 3:03 PM

Can somebody please explain how punishment was known before hearing was even held? That in its self screams of some sort of biased here. The principles and coaches from other schools decided guilt before meeting was held? Screw what the charter did at this point how valid are NCS meetings/hearings at this point?

197 CLAYCORD.com June 17, 2014 at 3:05 PM

There was a hearing on Friday.

198 Huh? June 17, 2014 at 3:20 PM

“Murphy hoped the league would take away “like” practice days over the summer, instead of cutting into vital practice time in August when the season is disrupted.

“I’m not trying to blame anyone but me,” Murphy said. “Bottom line is it comes down to me, but it was not something we were trying to sneak around or gain an advantage from.”

There appears to be confusion in the section about rules relating to practices, especially relating to school-year schedules, which can vary from district to district, and state event dates.

Even Lemmon, thinking that the June 4 state golf tournament ended the spring season, mistakenly gave James Logan permission to host a 7 on 7 passing tournament on June 7 at Laney College. When he realized his mistake, he changed the start of the summer season to June 5, according to the DVAL.”

Straight Quote from the times. Even Lemmon was clueless to start date seems pretty biased when three of the rival schools principles get vote on outcome doesn’t it? But again is what it is. Still doesn’t explain how NCAA new punishment before it was announced unless of course he is Hamilton or connected to one of the biased institutions here. Will be interested to see what happens to other school that were also in violation here.

199 Huh? June 17, 2014 at 4:34 PM

“There was a hearing on Friday.”

Still doesn’t explain how NCAA new about punishment before it was official. Unless of course said person is connected to one of the rival schools who cast the vote. In other words a coach maybe? Again in Hamiltons giddiness over sanctions he showed his hand before cards were dealt. Good news for CV still eligible for league and playoffs. Bad new for Hamilton and other they are still eligible for league and playoffs, and one must assume they will be pissed at the politics that are clearly involved here.

200 ANNONeeemoose June 17, 2014 at 4:59 PM

Yes “Way Too Many Issues” it IS about the kids, therefore YOU should stay out of the drama and let your kid go to school. He liked the team and the coaches. Why are YOU injecting the drama? Leave it alone.

201 @Huh? June 17, 2014 at 6:21 PM

Huh?, my take is that the panel listened to the evidence, made their decisions, and announced the official ruling to the CV reps and everyone else present at the 7:45 am Friday meeting. It was a done deal by the time everyone walked out the door. I don’t see why anyone would have been under any obligation to keep it a secret until the official letter went out. So what if someone from one of the other schools broke the news on Claycord? The official decisions had already been made.

202 Anthony June 17, 2014 at 7:35 PM

This will open up opportunities for other highschool players because he will attract scouts, those scouts will not only see him but also all of CVCHS other great highschool players

203 @Anthony June 17, 2014 at 8:16 PM

The college recruiting for this kid is already over. He is going to announce his decision on where he’s playing college ball at some big football camp next month. He’s narrowed it down to either Tennessee or Arizona. At least that’s what it said in the newspaper article about his transfer to CVCHS.

204 SITOUT June 19, 2014 at 2:59 PM

It is pretty difficult to get a college football scholarship. It is even harder when kids play in the offensive system CV runs. College coaches don’t see the skill set of the kids in an offensive system that they will play in during college

205 Appeal? June 20, 2014 at 10:19 AM

@sitout

You do understand the kid is a DT right? So what does the offensive system have to do with that? About the only 2 positions the system “may” hurt is QB & WR, that’s it.

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