The Water Cooler – The Condition of the Roads Around Claycord

May 30, 2014 · 68 comments

The “Water Cooler” is a feature on Claycord.com where we ask you a question or provide a topic, and you talk about it!

The “Water Cooler” will be up Monday-Friday at noon!

Today’s question:

Overall, are you happy with the condition of the roads around Claycord?

Talk about it.

1 Enfield303 May 30, 2014 at 12:05 PM

No, for the amount we pay in taxes, we have some of the crappiest roads in the country. I’ve been on smoother dirt country roads.

2 The Mamba May 30, 2014 at 12:06 PM

Overall? Yes, there’s a few issues that could be fixed but on the whole they are fine…

3 Clayton Road May 30, 2014 at 12:15 PM

The street reflectors need replacing along Clayton Rd. from Santa Clara Avenue to Ygnacio Valley Road.

4 KAD May 30, 2014 at 12:16 PM

Mostly, yes. There are some bad roads that need to be fixed but there are a lot more bad roads in the rest of the country.

5 Bumpy_Rides May 30, 2014 at 12:17 PM

NO!!! The condition of the roads in the entire Claycord area are horrible. Those of us know that a couple years ago City of Concord ground down and resurfaced Concord Blvd. A significant improvement indeed. But they totally left the roadway unfinished up to the new curb and gutters they installed. And some of the smaller side roads branching off still have uneven pavement and dips remaining. Definitely a half-ass job.
Two other roads that are very high traffic usage that really need to be ground down and completely re-leveled, sealed & re-paved are: Farm Bureau Road (between Willow Pass and Clayton Road) and Denkinger Road (between Concord Blvd and Clayton Road). These 2 previously mentioned roadways are beyond terrible. The City of Concord should be very ashamed of these roadway conditions.

6 Bumpy_Rides May 30, 2014 at 12:22 PM

Oh and lest not forget the other roadway that is terrible.
Right near downtown, East Grant Street. Another poor roadway on the way to/from John Muir Hospital Concord. There was some sort of roadwork last summer in and around East Grant, on the residential side roads, and all along East Grant there had been digging, trenching, under-ground piping work etc… But the pavement patch jobs done by the contractor and obviously approved by the City of Concord are terrible. This main connector roadway is also in dire need of complete ground down, leveling, sealing and re-paving.

7 BagsFlyFree May 30, 2014 at 12:25 PM

Compared to SF they are gems; however by most peoples standards the roads are not smooth. Trips down Farm Bureau or Olivera are always a test for any suspension.

8 YesMostly May 30, 2014 at 12:27 PM

The roads in our area are mostly ok. Better than many places.

9 KJ May 30, 2014 at 12:29 PM

I’ve encountered a few potholes around Claycord, but nothing like what I just saw in towns in Marin County. Talk about horrible roads! You’d think rich people, who own really expensive cars, would be willing to pay for decent roads, but every time I go over there the roads seem more chewed up than the time before.

My only complaint about Claycord roads is that there aren’t enough pedestrian crosswalks (especially on Clayton Road) for those of us who like to leave our cars at home and walk to stores (you know, that “get more exercise” thing our doctors keep telling us to do).

10 Anon May 30, 2014 at 12:38 PM

The roads are fine, it’s the damn traffic signals that need fixing!

11 Dee May 30, 2014 at 12:41 PM

They sick! In fact the roads in this entire state are the pits. Need to keep the gas taxes OUT of he general fund and to what they are meant for

12 Bob May 30, 2014 at 12:49 PM

They are not perfect, but probably the best in the Bay Area.

13 Kelly Anne May 30, 2014 at 12:50 PM

Stop replacing the good roads & pave the bad ones. Walters way is horrible.

14 Kelly Anne May 30, 2014 at 12:51 PM

I mean replacing…

15 Kelly Anne May 30, 2014 at 12:51 PM

Dang auto correct!

16 not bad compared to... May 30, 2014 at 12:57 PM

Been on roads all over the world. The Bay Area in general has descent roadways. The biggest issue would be the driving habits of some people. Weather its a lack of training or people coming here from other countries where driving laws and training are either not enforceed or nonexistent. I’ve driven thruout the area for years but in the last 10-15 years its gotten worse. But the roads are ok here. Try driving south of San Diego. You will appricate what you have here.

17 funny man May 30, 2014 at 1:02 PM

according to the last city survey, the city is all unicorns and rainbows!
but boo hoo the economy (not fiscal mismaganement), Soo make sure to vote for measure Q this november and keep those “temporary” tax dollars roling in for another 5 years!!@?

18 Dorothy May 30, 2014 at 1:06 PM

Some yes, some maybe, some no, some okay. That about covers it.

19 Jolly18 May 30, 2014 at 1:08 PM

Many roads need repair!

20 JLG May 30, 2014 at 1:20 PM

For the most part not to bad. One thing I have noticed is Orinda which must have the worst roads in the area and the highest per capita income always vote down road improvements. Except for St Stephens Drive which was repaved with federal stimulus money.

21 Triple Canopy May 30, 2014 at 1:33 PM

Mostly yes.

Except Martinez needs to get their act together and repave/rebuild Arnold Drive between Pine Street and Glacier Drive.

Morello Drive is also horrible between Arnold Drive and Muir Road… alligator cracking, pot holes, fissures, crevasses, and really rough asphalt. I am surprised chunks of tires don’t fly off as people make a turn.

The Pine Street overcrossing of Hwy 4 is also horrid.

22 To sum it up.... May 30, 2014 at 1:34 PM

They are the sh*ts…………But to be fair the roads in the Bay Area are some of crappiest I have ever seen. “Deferred” maintenance should not ever ever ever be allowed. Balance the dang budgets some other way

23 Always Right May 30, 2014 at 1:38 PM

I have lived in Concord for over 30 years. The condition of our roads in the years from 1980-2004 was outstanding. For the last 10 years, most dramatically in the last 5, the roads ( major arterial and residential) have been almost completely neglected.

If we are still in better shape than some other Bay Area cities, it is only because we had relatively good maintenance in prior decades.

What has changed? Well, for the last five years, our city, county, state, and federal governments have all been run by majority Democrat council members, supervisors, state legislators, governor, Senate, and president.

These are the facts. If you want government to do a few things well, vote Republican. if you want the government to do a lot of things poorly then voted Democrat.

24 Incognito May 30, 2014 at 1:40 PM

What a coincidence…. just had relatives visiting from New England. They made a comment about how good our roads/freeways are compared to theirs. There’s always room for improvement in most things, but I guess compared to other states where severe weather reek havoc on roadways, we really aren’t too bad.

25 WTF? May 30, 2014 at 1:42 PM

The roads are fine, there’s just too many people on them.

26 Silva May 30, 2014 at 1:54 PM

Rich folks have a strategy when it comes to the roads in their communities. They figure if they’re in a terrible state of repair people (outsiders) will want to avoid using them.

Over all Claycord roads could be a lot worse, but there is definitely room to improve.

27 GuardianAngel May 30, 2014 at 1:57 PM

I’m more worried about getting shot in Walnut Creek than I am a pothole. I heard there was a shootout at Ygnacio and Oak Grove. Walnut creek is turning ghetto thanks to Concord issues leaking over.

28 Lindoda May 30, 2014 at 1:57 PM

They are awful. Sure reflect’s poorly on our community.

29 KJ May 30, 2014 at 2:13 PM

Always Right — “What has changed? Well, for the last five years…” the economy was trying to recover from the Great Recession; a recover that might have been faster and more robust had it not been for obstruction by the Party of NO (the Republicans). California now has a surplus — no thanks to the Republicans.

30 PC May 30, 2014 at 2:26 PM

Upgrading Concord streets should become a priority. For too long the city does only patching of pot holes and substandard resurfacing. The last decent job was done on Concord Blvd. but that was more than 2 years ago and still the widening has not been finished. If people critically look at important connecting streets like Farm Bureau Rd. and Denkinger you would see that the road bed and spotty asphalt are in pitiful shape. Recently, they banned the heavy loaded trucks from going down Farm Bureau Rd. The damage will probably remain, though. If Concord brings people to the remodeled Pavilion, why not let them travel on decent streets instead of bumpy cow paths?

31 Steve May 30, 2014 at 2:29 PM

No way! Go travel outside of CA – the roads are flawless. We have so many jarring bumps and holes in ours!

32 JWB May 30, 2014 at 2:30 PM

Always Right …….bla bla bla bla ….. Democrats bad……. bla bla bla bal ….. Republicans good …… bla bla bla

Really that’s all you got? Quite sad even for a loser like you.

33 Concord Dad May 30, 2014 at 2:36 PM

I believe that the worst roads in our area are in Martinez. Try driving on any one of the residential roads in the Virginia Hills area and you’ll have your fillings knocked out of your teeth. The good part of that is that it at least keeps people from speeding, nobody in their right mind would take these roads faster than 25.

Concord, Pleasant Hill, and Walnut Creek’s roads are smooth as silk by comparison.

34 Jose May 30, 2014 at 3:21 PM

No,
Concord needs to learn how to make manhole covers flush with the pavement.

35 Rick May 30, 2014 at 3:22 PM

I didn’t know what bad streets felt like until I moved to Seattle. I miss the Diablo Valley like you wouldn’t believe.

36 nomorefreeride May 30, 2014 at 3:35 PM

They are terrible!! Oak Grove Rd. between Monument and David is like a bucking bronco. Detroit between Shary Circle and Whitman has been completely destroyed by the company running underground pipes. They city really needs to look at this it dangerous. After passing Costco on Detroit there is now a huge bump from the company pushing tubing under ground. A motorcyclist is going to take a spill there.

37 nomorefreeride May 30, 2014 at 3:36 PM

Putting slurry on the street doesn’t fix the problem. Less than a year after they did our street it was full of potholes caused by the slurry. Complete waste of money.

38 JLG May 30, 2014 at 3:42 PM

@Always Right
I guess if you want to play the blame game guess who was elected President in 1980 plus two additional Republican Presidents. Oh I forgot Bill Cilinton but he kicked the economy into overdrive.

39 Anderson May 30, 2014 at 3:56 PM

Road maintenance here often amounts to slapping a thin asphalt veneer on the surface and calling it done. Looks OK at first, but soon makes the existing “peaks and valleys” and other pavement issues even worse as the asphalt shifts around in response to driving over it.

They need to dig some of these roads up completely and redo them: new substrate underneath, everything.

40 Yes-for driving a car; No-for bikes May 30, 2014 at 3:59 PM

I don’t have any complaints about the surface condition of the roads for driving a car.

For bicycles, the bike lane often has glass, debris, or objects in it, or potholes so that one must suddenly swerve or just go over the obstacle. Particularly, I notice this on Cowell Rd. and Pine Hollow Rd.

41 57 Chevy May 30, 2014 at 4:16 PM

The roads could use some improvements, but overall they’re not that bad. As long as I get there and back, and I always do.

42 Rick May 30, 2014 at 4:40 PM

@alwaysright

Always wrong.

43 dilligafman May 30, 2014 at 5:01 PM

Mostly barely acceptable- but some totally suck!! Farm B. between Clayton and
Willow Pass is the WORST.

44 concord May 30, 2014 at 5:04 PM

NO! Bailey Road is horrible and so is Willow Pass Road. Too many unsafe intersections as well without proper turning appratus to handle the large volume of traffic.

45 RunDogRun May 30, 2014 at 5:27 PM

In Social Sciences studies done in the
1960s, the most expensive desirable
homes were most fequently located on
narrow, winding, and poorly maintained
roadways.

46 RunDogRun May 30, 2014 at 5:35 PM

I might add, that this is the
new normal. Concord resurfaced
Clayton Road from Ygnacio to
Ayers and it’s a washboard now.
The same for Muir Road. You
think you’ve got a flat tire the
ride is so rough. To save money
somebody did a sloppy, substandard
job … money down the drain.

47 Atticus Thraxx May 30, 2014 at 5:37 PM

Glad you asked. While there are roads in pretty good shape, there are some that are a mess. Willow Pass comes to mind.Almost the whole damn thing. Denkinger is almost a third-world road, all we need is chickens and goats to drive around.

48 Just Another Paisa May 30, 2014 at 6:50 PM

No. Way too bumpy, lots of potholes and always under construction!!!! Can’t drive my car low

49 itsme May 30, 2014 at 7:13 PM

For the most part yes however there are several stretches of road that need help…..Denkinger betweet Concord Blvd and Wilson Way for one. It is terrible! Concord used to fix potholes within 24 hours of reporting but those days seem to be long gone.

50 ClayDen May 30, 2014 at 7:17 PM

In general, the roads are pretty good. Now if only the drivers weren’t so bad…………

BTW, driving into Montana about four years ago from Alberta on Canada/U.S. 93, it was amazing how much worse the roads were upon crossing into the U.S.

51 Julio May 30, 2014 at 7:19 PM

When the city made the decision to no longer spend money to do things RIGHT is when all the roads went bad. Never pays to cut corners Concord.

Concord and every other city I should add.

52 anon May 30, 2014 at 8:12 PM

@Bumpy_Rides The issues with the roads you mentioned are spot on! Concord needs to keep records of who repairs or patches their streets and begin terminating employees or sub-contractors who perform to the existing standards.
@Jose I drive over at least 20 manholes a day that are too low and impact my driving. There used to be a way of welding a ring on to the riser, to raise the manhole covers to the correct height, but the current road managers are still looking for a phone app to get it done.

53 Always Right May 30, 2014 at 8:24 PM

Seems like most of the posters agree with me – Concord road quality is poor. It has gone down hill over the last decade. The blame for this mess belongs to those responsible for managing road repair services in this city, county and state. “They” make decisions about spending priorities and taxes.

So who are “they”? Well, the political power in this city, county, and state is fully vested in one party – the Democrats. They deserve credit for what government does right, and they deserve BLAME for what government does wrong.

Liberal democrats like JWB, Rick, and JLG may not like it, but like Harry Truman said: : I didn’t give them hell. I told them the truth and they thought it was hell”.

54 mike May 30, 2014 at 9:51 PM

Hell no……The city needs to do something with Farm Bureau Road (between Willow Pass and Clayton Road)…….I live off of Farm Bureau Road and its like I’m in the Baja 1000 just to get home. The city banned all the big rigs now its time to fix the road……….By the way the trucks still use Farm Bureau Road daily……

55 anon May 30, 2014 at 9:59 PM

Well, relatively speaking they’re a dream compared to Pgh. Pa where you have snow, ice and salt and in the spring we all get pretty good at dodging huge pot holes, one after another.

56 KAD May 30, 2014 at 10:46 PM

I have to say that the folks that are saying the roads here are really bad, have not driven outside of the area or they would know how good they have it here.

57 OhSoCasual May 31, 2014 at 12:28 AM

I drive a lowered vehicle and I can safely say that the majority of our roadways around our beloved Claycord area are in pretty crappy shape… there are some sections here and there that have been redone either recently or in the not to distant past which are holding up well and are pretty darn nice, and smooth, but not enough. Not enough by a long shot.

Denkenger from Wilson to Concord Blvd, SUCKS, and has forever pretty much.

Treat Blvd from San Miguel to Oak Grove Rd. and the ENTIRE Treat/Oak Grove intersection need to be redone completely and made nice and smooth.. Must be terrible ground that stretch road is built on though because it seems to always develop cracks that they just treat with tar or whatever, but the roadway stays uneven and bouncy / crappy.

Large stretches of Contra Costa Blvd. are actually fairly reasonable if not smooth but there are still some sections (from Willow Pass Road to Concord Ave./Chilpancingo, for example) that are pretty terrible.

Speaking of Concord Ave… Terrible.. Thoroughly repave the entire stretch from 242 down to Contra Costa Blvd and make it SMOOTH. Right now there are horizontal cracks pretty much down the entire stretch that make the driving quite bumpy and lame.

Bah!!! Roads…. So expensive but so critical. Let’s divert 50% of our War fund to making America’s roads the best in the world… that’d be the day!

58 claycord-biker May 31, 2014 at 1:00 AM

Clayton: Morgan Territory got chewed pretty hard by fire equipment.
Clayton: Oakhurst Drive/Concord Blvd at Kirker pass.
Concord: Farm Bureau end to end!
Concord: Bailey Road
Martinez: Alhambra Way end to end!
Walnut Creek: none stick out!

Concord: Poor concord blvd, just reworked a few years ago and now the utility companies and city maintenance crews have opened and patched it from end to end :(

59 go for it May 31, 2014 at 8:30 AM

When coming down Galindo towards Concord Ave crossing under 242; The off ramp from 242 onto Concord Ave needs to have the lines at end of exit changed. The # 1 & 2 lanes need to moved way back. The #3 lane a little back. Hopefully this would make it do when those that are flying down the #1 lane will not come half way onto Concord Ave just to see around the cars that are stopped for to forward [n the Concord Ave exit. I have almost been hit many times and now have my gard up but what about all the people that are coming down this road for the first time.

60 Silva May 31, 2014 at 8:37 AM

Hey #57, just curious, why do you have a lowered vehicle? The thought of it reminds me of the “greasers” we had around these parts back in the day. No offense.

61 @KAD May 31, 2014 at 10:08 AM

I drive out of the area all the time..Nevada, Oregon and Arizona and can I tell you the roads in Concord and the Bay Area in general are crappy. You shouldn’t guess where other people drive as you don’t know most on here, their lifestyle or driving habits.

62 LorRetTAH81 May 31, 2014 at 1:24 PM

I don’t have a complaint about the roads but I DO have a gripe about the condition of our sidewalks – especially in the Olivera/Esperanza area. The sidewalks are cracked, broken, uneven & the tree roots have pushed the concrete up and away from where they were originally set to the point of in some places there is as much as a 4″ drop from one square to the next. The footing is unstable & unsafe. Case in point – my roommate was walking on Huron St. and tripped on one of the cracked & drop off sections, fell and broke BOTH her ankles…. Surgery on both legs & a hospital bill in excess of $102,000.00 Maintaining the roads in & around Claycord is great- but the sidewalks for our pedestrians should be of a concern as well!

63 bilbert May 31, 2014 at 2:53 PM
64 Dr. Jellyfinger® May 31, 2014 at 10:22 PM

So how do all those “Donk” cars with the super tall wheels and real wide, thin little tires handle those bumps & potholes? It must bend the crap out of those friggin rims. When I was young we’d laugh at lowriders & thought they were ridiculous, but this new version of what’s cool? I gotta laugh!

65 Cuzzzzzzz...... June 1, 2014 at 8:28 AM

#62 – I hope she filed a claim against the city.

Dr Jellyfinger – those cars looks ridiculous…but take a look at most of the drivers….”stuck on stupid” oozes from their poors

66 Cheech June 1, 2014 at 8:54 AM

“pores”

67 TERRIBLE! June 1, 2014 at 9:59 AM

All of those people saying “better than other places” must not have been to other places! Imagine the smoothest road you’ve ever driven on, now imagine that road being a 50 mile long stretch of freeway. That’s how it is in Colorado. Also my family from Maryland refuse to use rental cars when they come to the Bay Area because they hate driving on our roads. So yeah we have a serious problem. Our roads aren’t nearly as bad as some of the ones in Richmond, Oakland, and SF. But for our area, and the income percentage for our area, our roads are ridiculously terrible. Living in a half a million dollar house, but driving down ghetto roads. ONLY IN CALIFORNIA!

68 Wheeler June 5, 2014 at 2:07 AM

!!!!!MARSH CREEK!!!!!
MY 20yr old SON AND HIS BEST FRIEND WERE KILLED ON MARSH CREEK 2 yrs ago!!! FIX THE ROAD ALREADY!!!!!!!

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